Spooked - Champ

Episode Date: July 21, 2023

Pati is really young when she loses her best friend and isn’t sure she’ll ever see him again. Until one day, he shows up, asking to play. Thank you, Pati, for sharing your story with Spooked! Prod...uced by Annie Nguyen, original score by Leon Morimoto, artwork by Teo Ducot Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:10 I spend so much time believing all the lies to keep the dream alive. And now it makes me sad. It makes me mad at truth for loving what was you without a face. You're listening to Spooked. Stay. They said you don't tell your kids things that are not for them to know. So my parents didn't tell us why they called my grandmother at two in the month. morning and asked her to come watch us.
Starting point is 00:01:09 They didn't tell us. They went to the hospital. They didn't tell us why they didn't come back the next day. Or how, when my mother did return, why? Why she couldn't speak to me or my little brother for a while? But I guess we learned early to keep secrets ourselves. It's why we didn't tell her about the face, the face that looked just like us, my little brother and I, the face that visited us.
Starting point is 00:01:44 That night my mother was away. The face my brother and I saw in the darkness and were not afraid of. The face stared back at us, smiling in the nighttime. Later, when they confessed that there was a baby and their Jesus had taken that baby back into his bosom, my brother and I knew that child had made a stop first. My name is from Washington. Secrets are never as secret as you think they are. Spook stars.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Now, we're headed to the windy city, Shytown. And since the listeners should note, we want to advise you that this story involves the depth of a child. And our storyteller is Patti. And Patti takes us back in time to when she and her brother Ben were just four years old. And Patti's best friend in the whole world, her cousin, champ.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Champ was only three. He got the nickname Champ because my uncle was always like, you know, you're such a champ, you're doing so good, whenever we had to put the respirator on him. So that just stuck. Champ was really lively, laughing a lot, like a big, loud laugh, which would make me laugh. And we would both tilt our head back and laugh so loud.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Champ never looked like he was sick He had like these big beautiful brown eyes His eyelashes were so long and curly Which are different from mine Because mine are like long but they're just straight He missed like a lot of school Because he was starting to get more and more sick And he would be like, I want to go to school with you
Starting point is 00:04:39 I want to go to school with you Like take me with you to school And I'm like I can't take you to school take you to school, like, but you know what? Just so that you don't be bored, I hid all these toys around the house. And he's like, which toys? And I'm like, I'm not going to tell you which toys. That's going to make it a little easier for you. And I'm like, you need to be challenged. So I'm at my after school program, and I see my parents walk in to sign us out. And I'm like, wait, what's happening? Like, we usually get picked up later. And my mom is like, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:17 Like just come on, let's go. We have to hurry up. So then we get in the car and she's like, we have to go to the hospital, champs in the hospital, and we're driving. We get to the hospital. And I just see everybody, like, their faces. And I'm just like, what is happening?
Starting point is 00:05:47 I've never seen them like this. I'm like trying to ask and my mom's just telling me, you know, be quiet, be quiet. And she rushes over to try to, help calm down my, my Tia. This day feels different because it's gloomy outside, but I'm being told to wear my super fancy clothes, and usually when I wear these type of clothes, it's for Easter. I really hated this dress. It was like pink. I had these white shoes with really itchy socks from Mexico and they have a frilly thing around the ankle.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Ben is dressed up in like this little suit. It's like a navy color. And I was like, oh, I wish I could wear blue. And my grandma's helping us get ready. And I'm just like, where are we going? Like, why do we have to wear these clothes? And my grandma's like, oh, we're going to see Champ. And I'm like, oh, finally, where has he been?
Starting point is 00:07:11 Why haven't? I've seen him these past couple of days and she's just like, oh, she's like, please. She's like, don't ask any questions. She's like, you'll see him. And when you see him, you have to be really quiet, you know, just don't make any trouble. We're at the wake. I'm told to go say bye to him. And I'm like, oh, he's just sleeping because I see him in his casket.
Starting point is 00:07:48 And I'm like, oh, like, he'll wake up. Once everybody has gone to the front, like a lot of people are sitting or, like, getting some refreshments in the next room. And I'm like, oh, like, no one's really paying attention right now. So this is my chance. I told Ben, I'm like, I'll be back. I go up to the casket, and I'm like, champ, I'm like, hey, whenever you're ready to play. Like, I know you're sleeping right now, but. whenever you're ready to play me and ben are here and we bought our toys and you forgot your toy your favorite toy but i brought it for you
Starting point is 00:08:42 i'm thinking of putting it in his hand but then i'm like if someone else sees it they're probably gonna take it out of it because his casket was all white all in the inside it was all white and he was wearing all white little Barney toy is definitely going to stand out. I tell him, like, champ, I'm just going to put it underneath you. I'm like, it's under you if you want it. After I put it under, like, it's like the small of his back. I put my hand inside next to his hand, and like I hold his hand and I squeeze it. And I'm just like, why is he cold?
Starting point is 00:09:36 I wanted to try to like to warm up his hands but the funeral director they're like hey what do you do it and I look back and I let his hand go and he's like you're not supposed to be touching him don't put your hand in the casket and then I like hop off the pew thing and then I like run back to where Ben was
Starting point is 00:10:05 with the rest of our toys my parents work at McDonald's so they would bring us home, a lot of like the Happy Meal toys. They're like the hamburger or like the Batmobile. A lot of the toys too that you could get if you like put a quarter in it and you get like a little sticky hand. But the toys that we always played with, we would call them our guys because I was like,
Starting point is 00:10:40 these are dolls. And champs like, no, these are my guys. Me and Benny are in our grandmother's living room. We have all of our toys, like, spread out everywhere on the living room floor, and I'm, like, kneeling on the hardwood floors playing. All of a sudden, I just feel, like, a shift. It felt like when you're in the lake and a wave comes, and it just pushes you forward a little bit.
Starting point is 00:11:19 And then I, like, look over my left shoulder, and I see Champ standing there in the doorway and he's like, Patti! And I'm like, champ! And I like jump up, and then he starts running toward me and we both hug each other. It feels like it's really him. It feels like I'm really holding him, like hugging him.
Starting point is 00:12:03 And I see his face and I see his big eyes and I see his smile, like his eyebrow. I see everything. I see all of him. And he just feels really, like, warm. After we hug, like, I pull away from him and I have my hands on his shoulders. And I'm like, Chab, it's really you, it's really you.
Starting point is 00:12:26 And I'm, like, kind of shaking him a little bit. And he's like, ugh. And he's like, yeah, it's me. I'm like, wait, where's your respirator? We have to get your machine. And he's like, no, I don't need it anymore. And he's like, no, really? He's like, look, I can breathe.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And he starts, like, inhaling this huge breath. And he's like, and then he like blows it, exhales. He's like, ah. He's like, you see? He's like, I don't need it. And he's like smiling. And I'm like, okay, you don't need it. I was like, wow.
Starting point is 00:13:09 I was like, I've never seen you breathe like. that. And I'm like, okay, like, well, come on, let's play. And then he's like, yeah, I brought my toy. We kneel on the floor, like, start playing with our toys, and he's like, he's like, ah, I got you, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, no, you didn't get me. And he's like, that's not fair. I got you first. And I'm like, okay, fine, like, you got me. And then I, like, plop over the toy. Ah, like, I'm dead. And we started laughing. And I was like, where have you been? Like, I haven't seen you. He's like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:49 He's like, I just went away. And then I came back. And then I was like, the last time I saw you, you were sleeping in this thing. And you were wearing all white. And I'm like, where are your clothes? Because he's wearing just a t-shirt and like shorts. And he's like, I don't need those clothes. I just want to play.
Starting point is 00:14:14 And then we're just playing. Again, like, I feel this shift. I hear my grandma saying like, Patti, I turn around and like she's at the doorway. She's like, who's like, ha-in-le-a-hle-h? And I was like, champ. I'm like, he's here. And she's like, where? He's right here.
Starting point is 00:14:43 And when I turn, like, he's no longer there. And my grandma's like, is this the first time that you see him? And I'm like, well, yeah, like, since. The last time when he was sleeping, and she was like, oh, okay. And then she tells Ben, like, go, like, go back to play with Bhati. And Ben was like, uh-uh. Like, I don't want to. And then my grandma's like, okay, well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:15:22 It's time to eat anyway. So come on. Like, let's go to the kitchen. But I did talk to him about it. I was like, you didn't feel a push or anything? He's like, you just stopped playing with me and you started talking to. to Champ, and I got scared, and I went, and I got Grandma. I don't know if you did that on purpose to scare me, but don't do that again.
Starting point is 00:15:55 I'm like, Ben, I didn't do that to scare you. I'm not trying to be mean to you. Champ was really there. And Ben was like, well, I didn't see him, and I didn't hear him. That's when I think me and my grandmother got even more close, because she started telling me, like, we come from a line of healers and curanderas. We can feel and see things that other people can't, and it's not something that you can learn how to do.
Starting point is 00:16:35 At this point, I'm, like, getting older, and I, like, I'm not playing as much. I start reading more. Ben and I are in our living room, and we're on the couches, like, opposite couches. like opposite couches. I'm reading, Ben's like reading me the mad lip. The mad lip ends and we're like laughing. And then one of our toys is by the TV on the floor. And whenever you press this toy on, it would say hello.
Starting point is 00:17:17 And when you turn it off, it would say goodbye. All of a sudden it just says, and Ben like looks up at me. And he was like, did you do that? And I'm like, no. I'm like, how can I do that? I'm all the way over here on this couch. The toy's over there. And he, like, looks at the toy.
Starting point is 00:17:49 And he looks at me. He's like, oh, I thought you had the toy, like, behind your back or something. And then at that moment, it says, I'm like, dude, it's probably just champ. And he's like, just let it go. Like, it's not champ. And I'm like, well, it's not me. I'm going to prove to you that it's just. champ, I get like a butter knife from the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:18:21 I unscrew the four screws. I pop out these four batteries. I screw it back together, and I leave the toy on the floor. And then we go back to doing reading and Ben's doing the medlibs. And then he reads it to me again. Like we're laughing. And again, this toy goes, Ben jumps off the couch. and he's like, Mom!
Starting point is 00:18:52 And I don't know where my mom was, but Ben just leaves. I stay on the couch. I'm just still reading my book. I just say, hello. I was like, I know it's you, champ. I'm like, well, you're scaring Ben. In come my mom and Ben. And my mom's like, are you scaring Ben?
Starting point is 00:19:10 And I'm like, no. I'm like, it's champ. Like, he's playing with the toys. And Ben thinks that I'm the one playing tricks. Ben has always been like a little scaredy cat At this point she's like I'm just so tired She's like I'm so tired of this
Starting point is 00:19:26 I just don't believe you buddy I don't And she's like stop And then she leaves the living room And Ben like follows with her I say out loud I'm like champ This is getting really hard for me
Starting point is 00:19:45 People saying that they don't believe me I was like I need you to show them that you're the one playing with these toys and it's not, it's not me. The toy goes off again and it just says, I felt bad for telling him, like, stop, stop playing with the toys because we were always playing with toys. That was our thing. During this time, I still talk to him out loud when I'm alone.
Starting point is 00:20:26 The only times when I see him again, or when he visits me in my dreams. A couple years passed, and me and Benny start playing outside. We pick up skateboarding, and we're skateboarding in front of my grandma's house. I just get this feeling, like, to look at my grandmother's house. I stopped skateboarding, and I, like, kick the board to Ben. And I'm like, your turn. And then I, like, look at the house.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I'm like, I cannot believe my eyes. I was like, whoa. I see a champ like on the third floor window. And he's like waving. I like bring my hands to my eyes and I like rub my eyes. And I'm like blinking, looking at the window again. And he's still there. And I'm like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:21:47 So I start waving back. And I just yell out. I'm like, hey champ. Ben, he's like, Like, what'd you say? Because he's down the block at this point. And I'm like, champ's here. I'm like, he's at the window.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Come say hi to him. And Ben's like, don't scare me like that. That's mean. He's like, don't do that. So then I look again and then he's no longer there. I was just like frustrated because I'm like, stupid Ben. The time that I was like talking to Ben, I could have like gone. into the house and like talk with champ. So as me and Benny play more and more outside,
Starting point is 00:22:39 I see less of Champ. I feel less of Champ. So I felt really alone because when I would try to talk to Ben about how I was feeling or what was happening, he was he was always like, I don't want to talk about this. And I feel like champ was the only person. that I can talk to about the things that were happening. I told him, like, champ, I really need to see you, and I need to just talk to you. Like, I just want to talk to you. I'd be really sad, and I would fall asleep.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Like, my dream would just start, and he'd be like, I'm here, Bhati. Like, you said you wanted to see me. And I'm like, yeah, like, where have you been? Like, I haven't seen you. Like, you don't come to visit me. And he's like, oh, I'm sorry. I've just been busy.
Starting point is 00:23:50 And I'm like busy. I'm like, what do you have to do? Like, I'm at the age where, like, I understand, like, people die now. So I'm like, you're dead. Like, what do dead people have to do? And he's like, I'm meeting other people. like I'm playing with them. You know, I've got things to do.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And I'm like, okay, well, I'm so glad you could fit me in your busy schedule. And he would just be laughing. And he's just like, okay. And then he'd be like, wait, you look different. He's like, why do you look like that? Like, what's going on? What's happening? And I explained to him, like, I'm growing up.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Like, this is what happens. Like, if you were still alive, this would happen to you, too. Because in my dreams, he's always still small. Like, he's still a little kid. He's just like, oh, he's like, man, yeah, then I'm glad I didn't have to grow up. And I'm like, I know, like, it's hard. Things are getting harder. I was like, I don't want to grow up.
Starting point is 00:25:02 And he's like, well, you have to, but, like, you can figure out, like, how to grow up. Ask grandma. I'm pretty sure she'll tell you, like, how to do it. And I'm like, yeah, you're right. I should talk to her more. Even though I wouldn't see him when I was awake, I would see him in my dreams. And he would tell me, he's like,
Starting point is 00:25:28 well, if you really, like, need to see me again, like, just tell me, and I'll try. And he would tell me, too, like, but don't be mad if I don't come right away. and he's just like, it just means that I'm busy. He stopped coming to me and my dreams. I chalked it up to me just getting older, but also I became like really depressed when I was about 14.
Starting point is 00:26:03 And my grandma, she was the one that took care of me at that time. And I would tell her, even when I talk to him, I don't feel like he's here anymore. I don't feel him around anymore. And she was like, that's okay. Like right now you're not yourself. Like he'll come back to you. When my sister bought a house and it was, you know, bear,
Starting point is 00:26:34 that day I was going to pick out which room I was going to have. When I enter into this one room that's off of the living room, there's a little toy there and I'm just like oh my gosh this is my room I like come out of the room and I'm like Preecy and she's like what
Starting point is 00:26:58 did you leave this there I'm like it's a little toy and she's like what she's like no like this whole house has been empty and nobody has come in you're the first person to come and pick out which floor in which room
Starting point is 00:27:12 and I was like oh snap I was like okay well, I know which room I'm going to get. I would find toys all around. Like anywhere that I went, like when it was to my therapy, like to school, to my sports. It was different routes all the time. So I'm like, this has to be for me then. You know, like, Champ has to have left this for me.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I would tell Champ, like, I'm playing the game now, too. like I'm leaving you stuff. I'll buy like maybe $5 worth of little toys. We have these things called Arboubos, which are tree libraries. I leave books and I take books and I also leave little toys. It's just still celebrating the way that our relationship was when he was alive. So much to Patti for sharing your story of Spooked. You also want to send big love to Patti's Abulita.
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