Spooked - The Lighthouse

Episode Date: October 13, 2023

The Heceta Lighthouse Bed & Breakfast on the Oregon Coast used to be a lightkeeper’s home–and it has a reputation for being very haunted. So Spooked producer, Zoë Ferrigno, went to investigate. O...riginal score by Doug Stuart, produced by Pam Porter’s Granddaughter, Zoë Ferrigno, artwork by Teo Ducot Happy Friday the 13th, Spooksters!!! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:06 The night and the light sat down for tea, and there they made the wager. Said night to light, your sun shines bright, but I bet I can cage you. Light laughed at night. Try that you might, you'd find yourself in danger. Knight's eclipse swallowed up the light. The knight had won the wager. You have been just received a letter from a woman. named Jennifer, and Jennifer told us a story about a bed and breakfast on a cliff overlooking the Pacific Ocean. Built next to a lighthouse, this bed and breakfast is where the lightkeepers
Starting point is 00:01:59 and their families lived, and there are rumors that some of them never left. And so on a very special episode, we're packing our bags and joining spook producer Zoe Fugnogneau on a very special field trip. Spook starts. Now. When I first arrived at the Hesita Lighthouse bed and breakfast, everyone kept telling me the same thing. You have to walk up to the lighthouse at night. The view from up there is supposedly spectacular. So that evening, I waited until the sun went down, and then I headed out, up a forested trail that snakes along the edge of a cliff. Along the way, I ran into some people. Two of them, Lena and Rihanna, work at the bed and breakfast.
Starting point is 00:03:32 They were on their way up to the lighthouse with Rihanna's partner, Dane, and nine-year-old son, Adrick, and they invited me to join them. To be honest, I was happy to have some company. It was kind of a strange night. Wildfires were burning just to the east of us. Ash was falling from the sky like snow, and there was a haze of smoke covering the front. moon. You see the red moon? Yeah, it's really... It's very... It's... Yeah. Finally, we reached the lighthouse, and I understood why everyone had been so insistent that I come up here. The lighthouse is beautiful. It has a bright red roof, and underneath it,
Starting point is 00:04:23 rays of golden light shoot out in every direction. It's actually the brightest lighthouse beacon in the whole state of Oregon. It can be seen up to 21 miles out at sea. Back in the day, two lightkeepers took turns working through the night, keeping the lamps lit. Now, of course, the beacon is automated, but standing underneath the lighthouse in the dark, it was easy to imagine that I was back in the 1890s when it was built. But then Rihanna's son Adrick said something that brought me back to the moment and why I was there. Hey, it looks like my beeping device. What if there's a ghost, it rings?
Starting point is 00:05:04 It does look a lot. The recorder looks like your ghost hunting device. Oh, cool. Adric is an amateur ghost hunter. He even has a YouTube channel. So, Adric, you're not scared of ghosts? No, never. How come?
Starting point is 00:05:19 You're just very brave? Well, sorts of creepy pusses. I'm never scared. Wow. You're braver than me? I'd arrived at the bed and breakfast earlier that day. It's a big white house with a pitched roof and a picket fence that sits right above the ocean. It's gorgeous, but I was a little nervous about spending the night there.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I'm a big, scaredy cat. I actually asked if I could just visit the bed and breakfast and then stay in a hotel in town. But my editor said no. So there I was. I checked into my room, and then I went to meet Michelle Corgan, who runs the bed and breakfast for a tour of the house. We're going to sneak in through the guest kitchen. I'll show you that. Let's see you the behind the scenes. Cool, thank you. Michelle led me through the dining room and two parlors on the ground floor. The house is full of antique furniture and local art,
Starting point is 00:06:33 and grainy black and white photographs line the walls. Upstairs, there are six guest rooms, each decorated in a different motif. This one particular has the view of the light house, so we call it the light keeper's room. Light shines way above the house, so it doesn't shine right into your room here. That's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Isn't it? Yeah. Back in the 90s, Michelle's parents were chosen by the U.S. Forest Service to help restore the house and make it more accessible to the public. And they thought the way to do that would be to turn it into a bed and breakfast. I came here for the summer just to figure out what's not grad school. I'm not going to get some life experience, do some traveling. And I didn't leave.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I haven't left the area, and that was over 25 years ago. By then, the old lightkeeper's home already had a reputation for being haunted by a ghost named Roo. There were stories of people seeing the apparition of a woman wearing old-timey clothes. Legend has it that some caretakers of the house tried to get in touch with her using a Ouija board, and it spelled out R-U-E. The name stuck. Michelle knew about the Roo rumors when she moved into the house, but... I've kind of always...
Starting point is 00:08:06 downplayed the ghost story because I feel like our intent here is to talk about the history and to really honor the hard work that it took these families to have a go at living, you know, 15 miles from any small town, nowhere in these harsh conditions. Does that mean that you don't believe in it? Oh, no, I think there's definitely something here. I've definitely had very odd things happen in this. house. In each of the rooms, there's a guest journal where people can write about their stay and whether or not they encountered Rue. Looks like it's a mixed bag of maybe, maybe not.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Of ghost. Yeah. Well, I've heard that most people who aren't believers have the most experiences. Okay. And that people who are really wanting and yearning for an experience have a tough time. I did not want to have an experience with Rue, but I kept running into the same story, that Rue was the ghost of a lightkeeper's wife whose child died at Hesita Head. Mary Nalty, the historian for the lighthouse, told me that there's no hard evidence to back that theory up. But a lot of people I spoke to who've worked in the house said they don't need evidence to convince them that it's haunted. Michelle told me about the time she worked a wedding at the house. So there's like five of us in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:09:46 We're coming to the very end of the service. We have a bowl of little baby potatoes sitting on a shelf, and we're standing there. And the bowl of potatoes basically looked to me like it levitated away from the shelf and dropped the ground. And all four or five of us that are there just paused and looked at each other, like what was that? I also talked to Daniel Walker, who was the caretaker at the house for four years.
Starting point is 00:10:21 It sounds kind of silly, but the first six months it felt like I was kind of being put to the test a little bit. When I'm shutting down the house for the night, I could just feel a certain presence kind of hanging over my shoulder. Daniel and his girlfriend at the time actually lived at the house in an apartment down in the basement. It must have been a few months after we'd gotten here. I'm laying in bed, just reading a book. I was the only one in the apartment. And suddenly the object's on my end table, box of tissues, my cup, just go flying off. Like somebody just took their arm and just kind of like sweeped everything off of the end table.
Starting point is 00:11:19 And there's Jennifer Cheney. Jennifer's lived on the Oregon coast for about 40 years. And so I have heard many stories over the years about the Hesita Headlight House and this idea that there was a ghost named Roo. But that didn't stop her from taking a job at the bed and breakfast back in 2017. In fact, she liked hearing stories about the ghost. Well, I'm always one for a great story.
Starting point is 00:11:52 but after working there for a couple of months, I'd come to the point where I haven't had any experiences myself, and I am not really a person who believes in things that are unexplained. I just wrote it off as this is community legend and something fun to talk about, but realistically, I didn't believe that there was anything. haunting the house. I'm working at the lighthouse serving breakfast on this particular morning. We served all the guests, and all the guests have left by 10 o'clock. Everybody's cleared out, and the house is very quiet.
Starting point is 00:12:47 New guests would be arriving in just a few hours. So Jennifer and her co-worker Gail were hustling to clean up the kitchen and get everything ready. Jennifer grabbed a stack of dishes and headed across the house to put them away. I'm walking through the parlor and out of the corner of my eye, in the very large mirror that sits over the couch in the parlor, I see the reflection of a woman sitting in a chair looking out the window. Her chin is resting on her hand, and she's very quiet and pensive and just staring at the ocean view.
Starting point is 00:13:27 She had dark hair She was probably in her mid-30s She had her hair up on top of her head And she had a white blouse I think Oh, one of our guests is still here And she's just enjoying the view Before she leaves
Starting point is 00:13:47 And I think when I come back I'll make eye contact with her And I'll say, isn't it a nice day Are you still going to stay in town anything to just connect with them. So I put the stack of dishes down, turned around, and came back. And the woman is no longer sitting in the chair. It was curious to me that she had moved so fast
Starting point is 00:14:18 because she was so quiet and still the way that she was sitting and turned and looking out of the ocean so pensively. I didn't hear her leave. I didn't hear a door. And so I'd come back to the kitchen and I asked Gail, did a woman come through here? And she said, no.
Starting point is 00:14:42 And I said, well, I just saw a woman out in the parlor. I think we still have a guest. And she said, oh, nobody's here. She goes, it's just you and me. We look out into the back where all the cars are and there's no cars. At this time, the guest house is not open for outside visitors yet. So I'm not completely sure who I've seen, but I know I saw somebody. I said, Gail, I just saw a woman in the parlor.
Starting point is 00:15:22 She was sitting in the chair, in the red chair, looking out at the ocean. And she said, well, maybe you saw Rue. There's an awkward moment of, oh, huh, maybe that's what I saw. It didn't seem like a figment to me. I had seen this woman as plain as day. It was probably a month or two later when I was cleaning in the space, and there again, I was alone. The house is quiet.
Starting point is 00:16:07 There's nobody there yet. I'm sweeping and dusting up the top of the piano. I look up at the photos that are on the wall, and there's a photo just to the left. left of the piano of a woman that lived in the lightkeeper's home for a very long time. I absolutely got to shiver up my spine. And I realize that is the woman that I saw sitting in the reflection of the mirror. Jenny, she came there from California and she was married to one of the lightkeepers.
Starting point is 00:17:01 I believe it was 1910 or so. The story was that when Jenny was there in the very beginning, she was very unhappy for the first couple of years. She was very lonely. It's very isolated up at the Light Keepers' home. She didn't have children. She was hoping to bear a child. We had records of her writing home about how lonely she was
Starting point is 00:17:27 and desperate she was and that she wanted to leave. I feel like I just saw an issue. image of Jenny sitting there pondering her life there. I think that the life that Jenny went there to live and that ended up happening for her was not originally what she planned. She married somebody that she barely knew. She came to a place that was very isolated and alone. She probably sat there wondering, am I going to be able to have a baby? Am I going to be able to have a family here of my own?
Starting point is 00:18:10 I felt like I could understand how hard that must have been. It was only after being there in a couple years and expressing to her husband her desperation and loneliness that he actually wrote to the Lightkeeper Society and asked permission for her to paint the walls and change some of the decor. And so she began to feel at home. home there. I asked Jennifer if she thought that the ghost everybody called Rue was actually Jenny.
Starting point is 00:18:54 She said it's possible. After all, there's no record of anyone named Rue ever living in the house. But then again, they didn't always keep a record of the women who lived there. Only their husbands. So I've been working at the Lightkeeper's Home for about a year and a half. At this point, I'm a believer. But I'm never afraid to be there. When winter rolled around, the bed and breakfast closed for a couple weeks, for renovations. The caretaker needed a night off, so Jennifer's manager asked if anyone else would stay overnight and do security. So I immediately say, sure, I'll be glad to stay there.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I've stayed there before when other guests were there. I know that it's a beautiful view at night. I want to watch the sunset. I ask my partner to come. We get there just at sunset. It's very dark. I turn on the lights. And a lot of things are covered up with sheets
Starting point is 00:20:05 and moved around to the center of the floor because they're painting the walls. Even the chandeliers are covered with sheets. And Steve comes in behind me. And he laughs and says, this is like a Scooby-Doo cartoon. You've brought me to a haunted house and everything's covered in sheets. I had heard about the rumors. And so I made a joke.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I go, Zoix. But I don't believe it. I'm a scientist. I don't believe in anything that's not observable, confirmable, and or tangible. These were just rumors to me. It's a nice, still, beautiful evening, so we decide to go out to the front porch, which looks south over the cove. We get in position in our Adirondack chairs, and we have our blankets tucked, and we open a bottle of wine, and Steve has brought his speaker. It's crabbing season, and you can see all the lights of the fishing boats on the horizon.
Starting point is 00:21:26 We're sitting there for about 20 minutes. to a bunch of different tunes, and then all of a sudden, the front door slams closed. The music stops without any explanation. It gets very quiet. The front door is locked. But I had the keys in my pocket. So I get up and I try the key in the lock,
Starting point is 00:21:56 and it won't turn. I can't move it. I can't get it open. It won't open. which I find mysterious. My only other option is to go through the basement door. So I walk around the house and I go down to the basement door and this time my key works. The light switch to the basement is all the way on the other side and I have to go through the dark.
Starting point is 00:22:39 I run through as quickly as I can and I turn the switch on. I run up the stairs. And as I'm walking by the parlor, I hear voices coming from the parlor. My heart starts to race a little bit. It was almost like a man and a woman's low murmuring. I can't make out what they're saying, but it sounded like questions.
Starting point is 00:23:15 What are they doing here? Why are they here? Who is this? But then as I kind of start to walk forward, they stop. And then I looked into the parlor. There's no one there. It was really unnerving. But then I think I'm probably just getting worked up.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Maybe it's wind. So I go back out on the porch. We prop the door a little bit open. And we sit there for a few minutes. And we've had our glass of wine. we've enjoyed the view, and it is starting to get a little cold. It is January. We decide we're going to go upstairs and go to bed. So the room that Steve and I decide to stay in that night is the Queen Anne room, and it's really the most romantic. It's got a four-post bed. It has draping. It's
Starting point is 00:24:27 dark reds and golds. It feels the most elegant and regal. Steve started getting settled, and I ran back down to grab some water, and I came back by the parlor and heard the voices a second time. When I heard the voices the first time, I made excuses for it, what it might be, and this time I know I heard voices.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I was getting very nervous that something was going on that could not be explained. I just have this uneasy feeling that were not there alone. I'm going up the stairs and I'm thinking, I'm really nervous about staying the night now. But I felt I needed to follow through with my commitment. I had said I would stay there that night for security reasons.
Starting point is 00:25:33 And I always do what I say I'm going to do. So I ignored my fear. I figured once we got all settled in, I would feel more comfortable. I'm tired. It's getting late. I have to work early the next morning. So I take my clothes off and pull the sheets back and I climb on into bed. Jennifer's on my right side near the door doing what she needs to do to get ready for bed. And I'm just laying there quietly with my eyes closed. And then all of a sudden, I hear a thump upstairs. and then another thump, and then I hear another thump. Just thump, thump, thump, thump, like somebody's pacing.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Okay, it could be the house settling. You know, maybe we have rats in the attic. So I ignore it, and I don't look up at Steve, and I'm changing into my pajamas, I'm leaned down, and I hear the steps again. It's moving from the center of the house towards, eastern wall. It starts traveling along the same line back. So it's gone from one end to where the window is and back again. I'm thinking this is weird. Somebody up there. Maybe there's not a car
Starting point is 00:27:22 in the parking lot, but maybe somebody has gotten into the house and Jimmy one of the doors and we just didn't notice. But I don't say anything to Jennifer. I pull back the covers and And at that moment, I hear the steps for a third time coming back the other way. At this point, I'm scared. I look Steve in the eye and he says, I'm out. I throw back the covers and I tell Jennifer, let's go. We are out of here.
Starting point is 00:28:08 I want to go get in our car and I want to drive home. Leave what I'm about to say, but we're not wanted there. I just feel it on an intuitive level. And I say, we can't, we can't leave. And he goes, did you just hear footsteps? And I said, yes. And he goes, did you hear it before? And I said, yes.
Starting point is 00:28:35 And he goes, you can stay if you want to, but I'm leaving. I say, okay, we'll go. I will tell my manager what happened. She'll understand. It'll be okay. I feel extreme urgency at this point to get out of there and get away from this place that I have always felt comfortable and never scared. So we both start packing up our things. I'm moving as quickly as I can.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I throw all my stuff into the bag. I make sure that the lights are off, but I don't even stop to make up the bed. I just wanted to get out of there right then. There's fight or flight. This was flight. And then at the point we're going down the stairs, I have this complete sense of dread. My heart's racing.
Starting point is 00:29:39 I'm almost afraid to look back because I feel like there's something behind me. I felt that we were being chased out. I go down the stairs. I run past the parlor. I don't want to hear the voices again. We leave the building. And I lock up the doors.
Starting point is 00:30:03 We are run walking to the car. Bluetooth speaker starts going crazy. Static that's increasing louder and louder. I look through the bag for the speaker. I find it. It's not on. And then I look back up at the room that we were staying in and the light is still on.
Starting point is 00:30:41 I'm petrified because I was sure that I turned the light off. Something was going on that I could not explain. And we needed to get out of there as quickly as possible. We get in the car, we back up, and as we're leaving, the sound went dim from the speaker. The further we get away, the more relieved I'm feeling. We get back closer to town, and I can use my phone again.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I text my boss, and I say, I'm sorry we are not able to spend the night. We had some very strange experiences, and I can't explain it, but I'm not comfortable staying. And she writes back and says, now you know why. I asked you to stay. I'm not staying there anymore. When I met Jennifer during my trip to Hissied Ahead, I asked her what she thinks happened that night. I'm almost wondering if when I'm there as a worker that whatever spirit is present,
Starting point is 00:32:00 knows me and has accepted me and it doesn't bother me. But now I'm there with this strange man that it doesn't know. If it is Jenny, perhaps she's confused about why her house is being torn apart, why things are being moved around. Maybe she thinks we're the people that are causing all this disruption in her house. She told me that she's thought a lot about the work that Jenny put into the house to try to make it feel a little bit more like hers, a little less lonely. She found a positive way to spend her time there,
Starting point is 00:32:48 and then she became part of the space. And when things are out of order, she gets upset. Jennifer is not the only person who feels this way. I heard similar theories from Michelle. When things are in disarray or a little chaotic around here, that's when we get participation. And from Daniel. A lot of people experience their stuff being moved around,
Starting point is 00:33:21 so their slippers will be straightened or their bed spread kind of flattened out. So a lot of the times it seems like there is a helpful spirit here that is still just kind of taking care of the place and kind of providing hospitals. hospitality to a certain extent. It doesn't sound very hospitable to me to knock all your stuff off of. Yeah, I don't know what that was about, to be honest. After my hike up to the lighthouse, I headed back to the bed and breakfast. All the other guests had already gone to bed and everything was quiet.
Starting point is 00:34:12 I walked through the parlor and up the stairs to the Queen Anne room. The same room that Jennifer and Steve had tried to stay in. As I got ready for bed, I was still thinking about all the stories I'd heard about the house. And I started to wonder, if Rue or Jenny didn't like it when people made a mess in her house, how did she feel about people with tape recorders wandering around and asking questions? It didn't feel scary in the house. It was actually really cozy and warm.
Starting point is 00:34:48 but just for good measure to Rue to Jenny to whoever might be here thank you for having me I really appreciate it your house is beautiful and please don't scare me in the night
Starting point is 00:35:12 thank you so much and thank you so much to all those who shared their knowledge and their stories about the lightkeeper's home to Jennifer to Steve Michelle Mary Daniel and Adric. The story,
Starting point is 00:35:47 it's dedicated to the memory of Pam Porter, Zoe's beloved grandmother. May you rest in blessings and wherever you are, know that your granddaughter loves you very much. As you loved her,
Starting point is 00:36:04 the original score. For this story was by Doug Stewart. It was produced by Pam Porter's granddaughter, Zoe Fregno. If you need more spooked, be afraid. Because each and every week, you can listen
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Starting point is 00:38:10 My name is from Washington. And some things can happen anywhere. Any place you meet, that guy, win that car, run from that dog. It can happen just about anywhere, but other things simply will not occur. Cannot occur unless you happen to bond one very specific, nowhere else in all the universe, not one foot to the left, not one foot to the right place. Civilizations have been altered because one person stood a hair away. from the precipice that another person happened upon.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Because all places are not the same as all other places. Places have echoes. Places have histories, places have stories, and maybe, maybe? Places have wants and jealousies and hurts the same as any other energy. We might imagine that this place, that this spot wishes us no harm.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I just say, born of my own experience, it's probably best to take some precaution. My advice is to never, ever, never, ever, never, ever.

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