StarTalk Radio - Cosmic Queries: Holiday Edition

Episode Date: March 28, 2013

Get into the spirit (or should we say science?) of the season when Neil deGrasse Tyson and comic Chuck Nice answer fan questions about winter and the holidays. Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts to listen to new episodes ad-free and a whole week early.

Welcome to StarTalk, your place in the universe where science and pop culture collide. StarTalk begins right now. This is StarTalk Radio, the Cosmic Queries part. I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson, your host. And I've got with me in studio Chuck Nice. Hey, Neil. Remind me, Twitter, you're Chuck Nice Nice? At Chuck Nice Comic.

At Chuck Nice Comic. Yes. I'm finally catching up with how to find you. How to find me on Twitter. There you go. Chuck, I brought you in because this is, as you know, this is the Cosmic Queries part of StarTalk. Yes. I sit here. I haven't seen any

of these questions. They've all filed in from Facebook and Twitter and Google Plus and all of our media presence. And this is the holiday edition. So thanks for agreeing to do this. It's always my pleasure to be here. I guess the point is not to stump me, although I could get stumped.

The point is just if I have knowledge to share through the filter of people's inquiries. That's correct. There we have it. It's what inquiring minds want to know. And you got their names. I have their names. Let's go for it. Let's kick this thing off.

And this is, oddly enough, you would think that i would have uh phonetically found out how to pronounce these names but i did not so um this is my kezu my kezu from facebook and very simply why is it cold during the winter because it's not cold everywhere so why is it cold during the winter oh you. You know, that's a beautiful question. That means he's not taking anything for granted and making an observation about the world around him and then asking. So it turns out after June 21st, we're talking about northern hemisphere now. We just like add six months and we can have this conversation in the southern hemisphere. Six months, and we can have this conversation in the southern hemisphere.

After June 21st, the arc of the sun across the sky from sunrise to sunset gets lower and lower and lower. And so the heating of the ground becomes less and less and less. The sun doesn't heat the air. The sun heats the ground. And after a short time delay, the ground heats the air. That's why it's not hottest at 12 noon. It's always hottest a little later. A little later, like 2 o'clock. Like 2 o'clock.

Anywhere between 1 and 3 and sometimes 4 o'clock in some parts. So there's a time delay. So there's not only a time delay during the day, there's a time delay during the year. So the sun gets lower and lower and lower and lower in the sky. And you enter December and the sun rises very far south of east. It only rises due east two days a year. People say, oh, the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.

No, only on two days a year. The rest is rising someplace else. And as we approach winter, it rises very far south. It goes up a little bit in the sky and then sinks back down again in New York City the highest the Sun Gets in the sky on December 21st is like 25 26 degrees up above the horizon That's hardly anything barely gets above the buildings So so the reason it's cold and winter is because the Sun is lazy Lazy lazy Sun it does not want to do it doesn't out one of climb to the heights

It cannot do that and so on the 22nd oh by the way and by the way it sort of slows down sort of stops it stops its its downward passage through the sky and then it starts its way back up a few days later so around december 24th december 25th you know we're not going to lose the sun entirely below the horizon it's on its way to higher and higher arcs. And the ancients knew this, or at least the Christians knew this. They wanted to put a Christian holiday on a day that the pagans already were celebrating. Right, Saturnalia.

Yeah, so they put the birth of Jesus on the same day that, because no one knew when the day of the year Jesus was born. So they put Jesus' birth on the day that people were already celebrating the return of the sun to higher climes in the sky. And so that's why you have it. Now, what is the coldest month? It's not December. It's like January, February.

Again, remember, this is time delay. Time delay. Yeah, so there you have it. So even though the shortest time the sun stays in the sky is in December, the coldest time is a couple, few weeks later. Right, because there's a time delay for Earth to react to that fact. Nice. Yes. All right, well.

And by the way, and it has nothing to do with our distance to the sun. In fact, in December, Earth is closer to the sun. We're closest January 3rd. We're closest to the sun in right smack in winter there. Look at that. Yeah. Interesting stuff. Yeah.

All right, let's move on. Next question is from, well, actually, you know what? I'm going to skip down to Brad Porter's question and kind of connect it to what we just said. So how cold is winter in a deep polar crater on Mercury? How specific is that? Does he plan on taking a visit? Apparently Brad has a great travel agent. So here's the problem.

Here's the reality. On Earth, if the air is cold, we have air circulation that'll bring cold air from one place to another. This is that Canadian air mass moving across the... Jet stream. Yeah. All these air movement takes a molecule that's either been warmed or cooled and moves it to another place on Earth.

If you don't have air, if you don't have an atmosphere, then there's nothing to mix the temperatures. Mercury has no atmosphere. Okay. So now there are craters we've discovered near the poles. If you're near the poles, the sun never gets very high in the sky ever. Right. It's possible to have a crater with a high enough rim that the sun never goes above the rim. And so, therefore, the bottom of the crater is forever in darkness. Wow.

The bottom of the crater is forever in darkness. Wow. The craters on the moon and on Mercury, where there's no atmosphere near the pole, they are where the sun don't shine. So that's where you can stick a lot of stuff if you want. You got to stick it where the sun don't shine. The moon and Mercury's got such places. There you go. So if Mercury or the moon has ever been hit by a comet, comets are made, you know, mostly of water. The water lands, you know, the comet breaks apart and water lands all over the surface.

If it lands where the sun shines, the sun evaporates it and we lose the water. If it lands where the sun don't shine, there is no source of heat to warm it. Right. And the water molecules stay and they accumulate for billions of years. So if you go into the depths of a crater where the sun don't shine, it is hundreds of degrees below zero, even for a planet as close as Mercury is to the sun. Wow. Exactly. Look at that.

All right. So listen, I think we've got time for one more. We'll make it quick. Before our break, yeah. Yes. So here is I think we've got time for one more. We'll make it quick. Before our break, yeah. Yes. So here's, I found a question. I want to stay on the winter one. Plus, if he goes to Mercury, like you said, we'll find out who his travel agent is and make sure he's got a return trip.

Absolutely. Okay, so let's stay with the cold thing. Do you know of any other substance besides water that could crystallize in a similar fashion to make snowflakes And also Is the whole thing about no two snowflakes ever being replicated true You know what we'll do That's from Anastasia I love that question and let's get back to that after the break

You're listening to StarTalk Radio We're in the Cosmic Queries section Holiday edition I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson With Chuck Nice. And just briefly, Chuck, you've got a TV show now. Yes.

Home Strange Home on HGTV. You walk into people's home and talk about it. Yes, I do. And I try to be as nice as possible. All right.

We'll get more of that when we come back to StarTalk Radio, Cosmic Queries, Holiday Edition. I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson, your host. I'm an astrophysicist with the American Museum of Natural History. And I've got with me in studio Chuck Nice. Yes. Chuck, love having you.

I just love being here, man. And you've got a TV show where you just bust into people's homes and talk about them. Yeah, it's a home invasion show called HGTV. That's a category of show. It's a new home invasion show on HGTV called Home Strange Home. And I invade the homes of people. They take me around and show me their weird, wacky little houses. If I see you knocking at my door, you ain't coming in.

I want to have you on the show, too. So this is like in the old days, 60 Minutes were the people you didn't want to have come in your home. Right. So now you're going to show up with cameras. Yes. And that's what we do. I show up with cameras. Yes, and that's what we do. I show up with cameras.

Weird people with weird collections and stuff. Weird collections, weird homes, and some of them are architecturally weird. Some of them, it's the people themselves are weird. A lot of them are artists and architects. That's what we mostly do. Because they have control over their space. They think about their space more. Absolutely.

They don't just go to Ikea and put stuff in. And you know, that's the beauty of the show show is that I'm hoping that it inspires people to kind of do that in their own lives. Just to get a little more interesting. Just to be a little more interesting and let your life be reflected in your home. Nice, nice, nice. So you got a boatload of questions there culled from our

internet presence. Yes. And so come at me. So before the break we had a question from Anastasia or Anastasia, it depends. And she says, do you know of any other substance besides water that could crystallize in a similar fashion as snowflakes? Also, is the old adage about no two snowflakes being alike true? Okay, I'll tell you what I know about it. First of all, we all heard that no two snowflakes are alike.

Right. And I was skeptical. So I was going to do the calculation to find – to just justify for myself because I don't believe everything I read or hear, but that factoid existed before the internet. So you can't blame – Can't blame the internet on this one. Can't blame the internet on this one. But I haven't actually completed the calculation, but what it involves is if you look at a snowflake under a magnifying glass, I mean under a microscope, you don't need very high power because they're small, but they're not microscopic.

They're not microscopic. Right. And you look at it, as you know, they have six spindles to them. And each spindle has detail in them. to them. And each spindle has detail in them. There's like little parts that stick out and it's all symmetric. And there's so many ways each one of these spindles can take on detail that you can ask yourself, how many ways can that happen per spindle? And if you start getting numbers in the quadrillions and the sextillions and the octillions, and then you do a quick back of the envelope calculation.

That's a calculation you do without a computer. Like you get a writing implement and a piece of paper. And you use your basic laws of physics and you say, well, how much water is in the world? How many snowflakes will represent a cup of water? And you turn a cup of water into snow. How much snow is that? How many snowflakes? How in any given season, how much does it snow all over the world?

Right. How many seasons have there been in the history of the world? Include the ice age, include all the glaciers. You do all this, you can come up with a back of the envelope number. And I haven't done that calculation yet. Okay. But I'm a little skeptical, but I'll report back to you on this. But it is possible, just so they can appreciate, the little spindly details on each one of the legs, if you will, the six branches of a snowflake, can have extraordinary structure.

And the tiniest little change from one snowflake to another counts as a different pattern. Right. So the number of ways you can change something can go up exponentially. I'll give you an example. If you have a chess board, and I can say, well, the pawn moves this way, and the knight moves this way, and there's a limited number of ways the pieces can move. Correct.

But how many possible chess games can you play? That number is huge. Because every little variation is a new – That's a new game and a new set of outcomes for each move. Exactly. And so when you look at these little spindles on a snowflake, every little change is a new snowflake. So I'm going to do that.

I've been meaning to do that calculation, and Anastasia has now told me to get back to work on that. Now, almost all things, all liquids, if you cool them slowly, will crystallize. Okay. Didn't you do, in high school chemistry, did you make carbon, was it copper sulfate crystals? Do you ever do that? Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah.

In the little beaker. In the beaker, right. Yeah, and has the blue. I think copper sulfate is now cancerous or something. Great. So that's where that tumor came from. Oh.

Back in our day, we played with mercury. We licked lead. And the monkey bars in the park were over cement. That's so true. Right.

We were like, they don't make them that way anymore. So yes, crystallization is a very common thing in nature. Right. And it's just that water happens to be in the air when it crystallizes and it gets to fall on the ground. And so you get to see it and interact with it every day.

Okay. But other kinds of crystals, you make salt crystals and sugar crystals. I mean, so crystallization is a very natural chemical phenomenon that goes on when there's a very slow transition from one phase to another. If you do it quickly, it won't crystallize. It won't crystallize. No. Okay. So in that slow cooling.

Oh, in fact, so for example, if the rain is coming from the cloud and it falls quickly through the cold layers that are up in the sky, then you just get frozen rain. That's right. You're absolutely right. And that's what they call it, freezing rain or sleet. Sleet. We got words for it. That's right. You're absolutely right. And that's what they call it. Freezing rain or sleet. Sleet. We got words for it. It's not snow. It's not snow because it froze too quickly to crystallize.

Right. And then there's hail. Hail's like. Yeah. That's the flash freezing of rain and also an insurance nightmare. That's right. That's when God says you better have a a really decent policy exactly okay so let's move on to um and this is uh this is nathan apparently i'm not sure if he's asking this again these are all holiday related these are all holiday seasonal questions

and nathan uh on facebook i'm not sure if he's asking of you personally or if he's relating this to himself okay as an agnostic and scientist what do you teach your kids about the holidays and how do you celebrate them? So I'm not sure if he's saying you personally or he's an agnostic and a scientist, what should he do? Or you as an agnostic and scientist, what do you do personally? Yeah, I'm a big fan of rituals. I think rituals organize human culture in important and fundamental ways that bring a bit of sort of humanity to us all. of wine during dinner or let's – I mean, Jews are famous for the number of rituals that are still conducted even among those who are not, quote, practicing Jews.

They'll still have the Seder. They still adhere to the rituals. The rituals because rituals are, I think, they're excuses to come together. And so I don't deny that element of life no matter the source, be it a religious source or a secular source. I mean, Thanksgiving is another ritual. I see that no different. And Christmas, you give presents to people. You know, that's – I'm not going to get in the way of that.

This is – now, how much of the religious backdrop you – Incorporate. You incorporate. That's your own personal thing. We live in a country where we have freedom to express that religion, but it also means you have freedom to pick and choose, to pick a version of it that you're comfortable with. But to excise it all from life, I think that's too draconic and unnecessary.

Okay, cool. So there you have it. Go ahead and celebrate your Hanukwana. Well, not because I said Hanukwana. Hanukwana Christmas. Han there you have it. Go ahead and celebrate your Hanukkah. Well, not because I said Hanukkah. Hanukkah Christmas. Hanukkah Christmas. Your Hanukkah Kwanzaa. Okay, cool. All right, let us move on to... Wait, you tell me not because I told him to, but just I gave a perspective. No, that's your perspective. I think it's a great perspective, honestly. I mean, because I know I have Jewish friends who put up a Christmas tree.

Uh-huh. You know? Because they want the Christmas presents, not the Hanukkah presents. That's what that one is. But we got that one figured out. That's very funny. All right. We got time for a quick one, and I'll put this.

Before we go to our break. Before we go to our break. So this is Chris O'Donnell and addendum to that question from a different person do you think children should believe in santa while they're young or know the truth from an early age now as a scientist i'm interested to hear what you say on this one well i did this with the tooth fairy okay okay uh so i with my daughter i train my kids to be scientifically literate. And I've certified them scientifically literate. I'm not worried about their future evermore because they are.

I'm working on what kind of stamp to put on their forehead or something to make this happen. But at the age where you lose your teeth and then you have the tooth fairy, you're particularly gullible to storytelling of a fantasy nature. Okay. And so what I did with my daughter at that time, you know we're running low on time. Okay, then let's make this a cliffhanger. What? Because this is awesome.

Because I'm really on the edge of my seat. I'm like, what does Neil do with his kids? I thought this through. All right, well, listen, then save it. Totally. Yeah, because I think really on the edge of my seat. I'm like, what does Neil do with his kids? I thought this through. All right, well, listen, then save it. Yeah, because I think this is awesome. I totally thought this through. So after the break, you will learn what I did with my kids with regard to these fantasy seasonal things,

the Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy. I really want to know because my son just lost his first tooth. So this is great. I'll hook you up after the break. You're listening to StarTalk Radio, the Cosmic Queries part. And it's a holiday edition. When we come back,

more questions delivered to me from Chuck Nice. StarTalk Radio Cosmic Queries. I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson. In studio with Chuck Nice. Hey, hey. Chuck. Chuck Nice comic on Twitter. That's right. I love your stuff because you just, you know, you come out of the blue and, hey, I agree with that.

You have some sort of humorous observation of the cultural mores. Yeah, you know, that's my whole thing. Some people don't get it. Like, you know, most of what I write on Twitter is a joke. Right. And they don't understand that. I mean, some people get back to... Well, let me ask you,

do you lose something by having to write it as opposed to deliver it in person? No, I like it that way. You do. Because really, it takes... You have to set the tone

in those 140 characters. So that's what I dig about it. Okay. I wrote the other day, just remember when you buy that $15 sweater from that big box store, you're helping foreign child labor learn the value of a dollar one day at a time.

Okay. I thought that was hilarious. And I had some people get really pissed at me. Yeah. Get them off Twitter. Right. Right. Right.

So you got questions here. Yes. They're called from the internet. You got – it's holiday questions. Holiday questions. Go for it. Yes. Called from the internet. You got, it's a holiday question. Holiday questions. Go for it. And so here's the deal. Right before we left, you were about to tell Chris about believing in Santa.

And he wrote, let me just give his question again. Do you think children should believe in Santa when they're young? Or should they know the truth from an early age? And then you were talking about the tooth fairy and what you did with your daughter, which I am hugely interested in because my son just lost his first tooth. His first tooth. So at that age, they're particularly susceptible to fantasy stories. They don't really have a deep sense of what is possible given the laws of physics of the universe and what is not. And so the tooth fairy becomes very believable at that age.

So here's what I did. I said, well, I'm not going to lie to my kids. I'm just not. Nor do I think being completely fantasy prone is a good thing going into adulthood because some adults don't outgrow this. So here's what I said. I said, I'm told that if you put your tooth under your pillow, that a tooth fairy will come and exchange it for money. I'm told.

I'm told this. I'm told. And so she said, really? Okay, I'll do that. So she does it and money shows up. All right. I'm told this. I'm told. And so she said, really? Okay, I'll do that. So she does it, and money shows up. All right? So several teeth happen. I'm told.

And so now she had a dream catcher because we visited a Native American reservation, bought a dream catcher. So she thought maybe she could catch the tooth fairy in the dream catcher. Okay? So then she set up the dream catcher, didn't catch it, still left the thing. So then she took aluminum foil and put it near her bed to see if the fairy would step on the aluminum foil because then she would hear that. Right. It didn't still happen. So what she decided to do a couple of years later with friends of hers, there was the suspicion that maybe the parents were the tooth fairy so

they said so they so she organized a group of people who whose tooth fell out while they're at school that way the parents don't know it so now you take that tooth put that under your pillow without telling anyone and if it's still there in the morning, because surely the tooth fairy would know. Right. And if the tooth is still there and money isn't, then it's the parents. And this is precisely the experiment they did. And they figured out that it was the parents. That there was no tooth fairy.

That's correct. Man, you know, see, that is really your daughter. Well, no. That is truly your kid. Let us devise an experiment well i train them to think about testing statements that's awesome made and so i didn't want to say there is no because that's giving her the answer but without her having the joy of thinking about what experiment would would verify or falsify that prediction see your daughter is very smart i just started

ripping teeth out of my head because this was a great way to make a buck. Oh, you didn't have a paper route. All you had were teeth. All I had was teeth. Looked like I had a meth problem when I was five. No, the thing about Santa Claus, what we did about Santa was

we knew the kids figured out that there wasn't a Santa, but the Santa Claus gift was always the biggest, most expensive gift under the tree. So if they ever admitted that there wasn't a Santa, they wouldn't get that gift. That's pretty smart. So we had them believing it longer than they would have otherwise. That makes sense. All right, so let's get a quick one. We've got time for a quick one, yeah.

Let's get a quick one from John Yates. And he says, I like this. What is your favorite holiday drink? Because I want to drink whatever you're drinking. Oh, nice. Well, thank you. Way to go, John. Thank you.

You know, I like foofy drinks. You know, I go to a bar. Guys are ordering whiskey. And I order, like, something with a pineapple wedge and an umbrella in it. Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I in it. Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I love it.

So you're a tropical drink man. I am comfortable enough with my masculinity. Or rather, I am in touch with my feminine side enough so that I have no issues. So you don't mind drinking a Cosmo? An umbrella drink in a bar with guys. Appletini? You're cool with an appletini? But I also lean towards the creamier drinks.

Like a mudslide or a Bahama Mama? Bahama Mama. Yeah. So that means over the holidays, I'm an eggnog guy from way back. Oh, really? Spiked eggnog. Give it the dark rum just to kick it up a notch. Okay.

Yeah, totally. And when I'm ambitious, my wife and I will make it ourselves. Eggnog? Oh, yeah, yeah. You got to like separate the egg whites and beat those and put them in and mix them. It's effort, but it's worth it.

Wow. Homemade eggnog. Well, wait. Then you got to like take it over the top and then you buy eggnog ice cream and put a scoop of, so it's eggnog float with the eggnog ice cream on top. Then it rocks.

When we come back, more Cosmic Queries on StarTalk Radio. Cosmic Queries on StarTalk Radio, the holiday edition. I'm Will DeGrasse Tyson with Chuck Nice. Hey. Comic. Chuck, do you like doing TV better than stand-up or both? You're cool with both?

To be honest, I love stand-up the most because it's live, it's immediate, you can't get it back, and it happens. But I love TV more because I like to eat. So the green room keeps you fed. Yeah, I enjoy the food, the money, the salary. Yeah, I enjoy the salary of television much more. Gotcha. All right, what do you got? You got questions for me? All right, so here's the thing.

Because you're a New Yorker all your life, born and bred. By the way, I was recently featured in the Superman comic, and so now I get to say I'm from Metropolis. Oh, sweet. You didn't know that? I did not know that. Me and Superman are buds. Yo, that's hot.

Oh, my gosh. You didn't know that? We'll do a show on that. Oh, you're not lying. I'm so jealous. Oh, yeah. Because I'm a total comic dweeb. Okay.

I love that stuff. Apparently not enough of a dweeb to have known this. So just chill on that one. All right, go. Oh, God, that was funny. All right. Okay, here we go. Jared Stevens wants to know what you think is the best thing to do in New York City during the holiday season since you've been here pretty much your whole life.

What do you think? Oh, so you know what you need to do? Visit all of the cosmic iconography that is throughout the city. Like? Okay. Again, sorry for the rest of the world who would be listening to this, but maybe you'll take a visit to New York. On Avenue of the Americas, 6th Avenue, in front of the Time Life building, there's a huge sculptural triangle. Okay.

Sitting right there. It's visible if you stand in Rockefeller Plaza and look across the street. It's a huge triangle. Most people are eating hamburgers under that triangle. It's huge. It's like six stories tall. Huge. And they just say it's just some artist trying to be geometric.

No, no. It's a sun triangle. At 12 noon on the equinoxes, along one of the legs of that triangle, the sun aligns with that edge. aligns with that edge. On the two solstices, the summer solstice, the winter solstice, at 12 noon on those days from that plaza,

the sun aligns with the other two legs of that triangle. It is a sun triangle. A sun triangle. It is trying to talk to the cosmos. That's pretty cool.

I agree. Also, you go into Grand Central Terminal and look up. There is the night sky as imagined by people at the time who put the sky on the dome. Right. Except the stars are backwards. Yeah, don't get me started.

Okay. Okay? They're backwards. And Orion, the hunter, is facing forwards in this field of backward stars. But in the holiday season, if you're drinking in the city, you just tour the cosmic offerings that it has that people have long forgotten about. Nice. Nice. And I know that's a problem for you.

Otherwise, I'm staying warm at home. I know you hate the Grand Central thing because you actually told Jon Stewart that the Earth rotates in the wrong direction on his show Open. In the opening credits, yes. And he got a little upset about it. I haven't been invited back since, by the way. Just as a point of information. All right.

So speaking of solstices, all right, let's move on to Laura Moore's question. And Laura on Facebook sent us this question. Do you think the new year should start on the actual winter solstice? Did the Romans have the date wrong, or has there been that much wobble in the tilt of the earth's axis look at her getting a little deep with the solstice question oh well the calendar has a fascinating torturous history and so you can't um so i i think the solstice is a better day to begin the new year right i so do uh keep in mind though that there was a time where the calendar was 10 days off but that got corrected in 1584 when in the introduction of the gregorian calendar where october where they realized that

the calendar fell out of sync with earth's orbit around the sun and the seasons. So, for example, the first day of spring was falling on March 10th instead of March 21st, and this was messing with people. And so they actually excised the Pope by decree, which he could do back then because that's when the Pope had power over Christendom, or at least the Catholic side of Christendom, decreed that 10 days would be taken out of the calendar. So October 15th followed October 4th, and that reestablished the calendar that we now all use today internationally, the Gregorian calendar. So the calendar has been messed with many times before.

I think there's nothing special about January 1st. What I do is send around January 3rd announcements that Earth has reached perihelion. I send around perihelion cards. Perihelion cards. Perihelion. As Helios, the sun. Right, Helios the sun. Nearest to the sun.

And that is January 3rd. That's the January 3rd. Yeah, and depending on where you are in the leap day cycle, it could be the 4th. But that's when I celebrate perihelion. January 1st is a stupid. Nothing happens January 1st. What is this? We got one segment left to come on StarTalk Radio

where Chuck Nice is bringing questions cold from the internet and putting them on my lap, requiring that I answer them. We'll see you in a moment. Welcome back to StarTalk, The Cosmic Queries. I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson with Chuck Nice. Chuck, you're culling these questions from the internet, from our entire internet presence, on Facebook, on Twitter, on Google+, so what do you got for me? This is the holiday edition.

This is the holiday edition. I like that. All holiday questions and dealing with the season itself. So here's one from Chris Smith. And Chris wants to know, could Santa be exploiting the multiverse concept where physics could be different to hide his North Pole workshops and

travel by flying reindeer's sleigh? Ultimately, Santa could really be real. Yeah, he's still clinging to that. I think his real question is... Didn't I tell you earlier in the show that there's some adults that still haven't shaken? Right, exactly. They stay in that fantasy. I think his real question is – But didn't I tell you earlier in the show that there's some adults that still haven't shaken? Let go.

Right. Exactly. He hasn't let go. They stay in that fantasy. Yeah, yeah. But I think a more interesting question, you know, at the multiverse concept, does physics change? Let's say there is a multiverse. Do physics and the laws of physics remain constant through every facet of the multiverse?

No. Really? Yes. Oh, my God, that's shocking. Yeah, so what we understand is the conditions that spawn the next universe, they're slightly different. In the same way your children are different from you, but you're still genetically related. The next universe would have many features similar, but would be different in certain ways

that might not even make life possible. For example, they're not just different because you're you, but you turn left on the corner instead of right. They're different because the charge on the electron might be different or the other fundamental forces, the speed of light might be different. And so, yeah, yeah. But you would have to, you would need a whole other kind of universe that's similar to ours, but gives Santa an out

to enable him to do what he wants to do. And I'd rather invent a world here where he could pull that off. So, for example, if his sleigh could travel the speed of light. Right. Okay. So there's a problem there first

that moving through the atmosphere, he would vaporize. I was going to say, wouldn't he burn up? Yeah, just vaporize. So he would need atmospheric separators the way the Flash has atmospheric separators. Had you been listening to our Physics of Superheroes Star Trek episode, you would know the Flash had separators. Nice. Yeah, yeah. So that's what he'd have to do.

And he doesn't have to deliver to all children in the world, only to Christian children and the few Jews who happen to put up a Christmas tree. So once you start cutting this down, plus he doesn't have to do them all at once because there's the one hour by hour time zone. Correct. All right. All the kids, no, no, no, not all kids go to bed at the same time. Right.

Because the sun is always shining on half the earth. So he gets to spread out the load. Now, the one problem we might not ever be able to solve is the North Pole. You know, he needs like a houseboat now for the North Pole.

Right. There's no ice left on the North Pole. Exactly. He needs a houseboat. I hear Superman's lair is actually flooded right now. So there are these North Pole issues that have to be resolved before he could sort of do this. But it turns out it would be very hard, especially the fitting down the chimney part. So he would need a way to gain access to everybody's residence. That would be a higher dimension

where you just enter through the closet. Like in the film Monsters, Inc. Oh yeah, yeah. He's just going through the closet. It's a dimensional portal. It's a dimensional portal. And no reason why you can't have one of those. So I can imagine a Superman of the future who's totally tricked out. Right on. Listen, I know I can help him with that

unlawful entry part. Ah! I know some people. You got people. The fourth dimension. Yeah, so these are burglars in the fourth dimension. Right. All right, so here is, this is, I believe, Kai-U is the name.

How many horsepower would each individual reindeer need if Santa has nine of them, I suppose, to make the sled fly? Yeah, I have to do that calculation, but it really simply depends on how fat Santa is. Right. I don't mean to make a joke about it, but the horsepower tells you what you need to pull a load that you're carrying. Right. And, of course, if he has all the presents for everyone in the world, this is huge. And so each reindeer – I have to do the math. Right.

Right now, I don't have time to – To actually make the calculation. We may have to revisit that or I could possibly post it online. But you need horsepower, certainly something rivaling the Saturn V rocket or more, to do what Santa pulls off. Right. To get him to fly. By the way, planes fly, right?

So it's not like we don't know how to fly. Right. All right? And so the reindeer would just need sort of to take some physics classes on how to exploit Bernoulli's principle of lift through the atmosphere. Exactly. Your point exactly. Chuck, I think we've got to wrap this up.

Yeah, but you know what? Before we do, I can't get this out of my head because early in the show, you were talking about homemade eggnog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you've got a problem with that? No. It's a big effort. You've got to whip the egg whites so they can become perky.

And then you fold that into the cream. And you got to hand shave nutmeg. Oh, yeah. No, it works great. Put in a dash of rum. It's smoking. Okay. I got to have that.

I must have. Well, it is wintertime. Maybe after hours. We'll go check it out. I'm all about it. Oh, by the way, earlier you mentioned the Cosmos drink. Nothing cosmic about a Cosmos drink. We've got to reinvent that. Really? I might just do that. Okay.

That works for me, too. We're overdue for that. See, what I'm saying, Neil, is we've got to go have a drink. You've been listening to StarTalk Radio, brought to you in part by a grant from the National Science Foundation. Find us on the web, startalkradio.net. I'm Neil deGrasse

Tyson, tweeting at Neil Tyson. Until next time, as always, I bid you to keep looking up, and thanks, Chuck, for being here once again.