StarTalk Radio - Cosmic Queries: Science Fiction
Episode Date: December 8, 2013Science Fiction meets science fact as Neil deGrasse Tyson and Eugene Mirman explore time travel, warp drive, force fields, transporter beams, parallel universes and Dyson spheres. Subscribe to SiriusX...M Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts to listen to new episodes ad-free and a whole week early.
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Welcome to StarTalk, your place in the universe where science and pop culture collide.
StarTalk begins right now.
This is StarTalk.
I'm your host, Neil deGrasse Tyson.
I'm an astrophysicist at the American Museum of Natural History,
where I also serve as the Frederick P. Rose Director of the Hayden Planetarium.
And I'm here in studio in New York City with Eugene Merman.
Eugene, thanks for being back on.
It is great to be here.
And do you know your task today?
Yes, it is to ask you what? No. No, I don't know. It is great to be here. And do you know your task today? Yes, it is to ask you what?
No.
No, I don't know.
It is true.
You've culled these questions off of our Facebook presence or Twitter.
And these are questions on what topic?
Science fiction.
Nice.
Okay, I haven't seen these questions before.
No.
But this is the Cosmic Queries edition of StarTalk Radio.
Yes.
So let's get right to it.
Let's do it.
What do you got?
Jason Bilyeu asks,
Dr. Tyson, do you believe there is potential
for a math theory that can predict future events
like the one at the center of the Foundation series
by Isaac Asimov?
Wow.
Okay.
So we have math equations.
Yes.
We have two.
We have the Pythagorean theorem and then one other. And pi r squared. Right. So
we have equations, which when coupled with physical phenomena in the universe,
become what we call physics. Yes. Physics is the mathematical representation of the physical
reality in which we're embedded. So everything a physicist does with the already established laws of physics typically involves
a prediction.
Right.
And so we can predict when the sun will rise to very high precision.
Yeah.
The slowing down of the rotation of the earth, where the moon is, where planets are.
You know, when we go to Mars with our probes, we don't aim at Mars in the sky and then travel there.
We aim for where Mars will be when we arrive.
Yeah, because we're smarty pants.
Right, exactly.
So in that, there's Earth is moving, Mars is moving, the spacecraft is moving.
We have equations for everything.
Yeah.
Well, almost everything.
Yeah, yeah.
And so it is the nature.
Except for how to make a rock and roll hit.
Or a best-selling book.
I mean, the universe still brims with these mysteries.
Yes.
But the point is,
physics is the prediction of the future.
And if physicists went around predicting the future
and not telling people how they did it,
they would be the greatest seers.
Temples will be made to them.
The fact is we tell you how we do it.
And also you, yeah, you can only predict so many things within it.
Like if you blew up the moon, it would change when it rose.
Yeah.
It's interesting what would happen if Earth didn't have a moon.
We can calculate the consequences of that.
Right, right.
There are certain things we can't calculate because chaos arrives.
And it's hard to predict detailed weather more than a week in advance yeah you can get a sense of climate oh they can do it they're just wrong exactly you can't predict it with high
precision so it's what we do all the time that's the that's the that's the takeaway there okay yeah
next question by Justin Kopin.
Almost all sci-fi spacecraft are shaped similar to an aircraft with wings and a tail, et cetera.
If a spacecraft is launched from space and has no need to actually enter an atmosphere,
is a sphere the most functional shape for a craft?
Hmm?
Yeah, it depends on how you want to – great question.
It depends on how you want to live in the ship, right?
You want to have like an 80s party.
One of my gripes, it's not a gripe, but an observation of the original Star Trek series and the series to follow it and the series to follow that was that the Enterprise as portrayed was cool aerodynamic looking.
But the Enterprise really never spent time moving in and out of atmospheres.
No, it was built in space.
Built in space and, well, actually, well, I
mean, it was built to exist in space and it
was the, and as it moves, when it parks at a
planet, it parks in orbit and then you beam
down to the planet.
Yeah, yeah.
Which you find even less realistic.
Well, I give it to him because it saves them money having to always show the ship land on a planet.
Yes.
A lot of inventions are simply money-saving schemes.
In Hollywood.
Yeah.
Exactly.
It's cheaper to beam them in than to show a ship moving through an atmosphere and landing.
Right.
So an insider in the creation of Star Trek series told me that.
This is not firsthand information is secondhand. The point is, if you only ever exist in the vacuum
of space, you do not have to be aerodynamic. You could look like a dish rag. Right. You could be a
floating, yeah, oven mitt. Yes. And it just simply doesn't matter. So you might as well design it in
a way that serves your needs. And that's what they did in the film 2001.
That ship was not – there's a sphere out front.
If you remember that, it was the – what was the name of that ship?
Jason?
No.
No idea.
It was a sphere up front, but then it had all the engines that went back from it.
And inside the sphere, there was a rotating gravity simulator.
So you just make it how you need it,
and who cares what the damn thing looks like?
So it wouldn't even matter what it looked like,
unless you had to get it from a planet into space.
Correct.
That's where it would kind of matter.
However, objects that large,
typically they're not structurally stable sitting at 1G.
Right.
They would fall apart.
So you really would want to build it in space,
and it really wouldn't matter.
Is there an ideal way or no?
It could be an oven-mitted dishrag.
Those are similar, but still.
It simply doesn't matter. You build it to the efficiency of the needs of
the crew right not for any so you could easily have a flying like a dance club from one place
and another place for like acoustic folk music and then some food i'll give you an example the
the cassini spacecraft to jupiter uh-huh is there to saturn is there orbiting saturn right now there
was a probe yeah that was attached to the side called Huygens, named after Christian Huygens.
It was a brilliant, I think it was Dutch,
astronomer, mathematician.
And was there a barbecue joint in that little space?
No.
Like Franklin?
This deployed and descended down
into Saturn's moon Titan itself,
which had an atmosphere.
So we all knew this.
So you have your spaceship,
which is not aerodynamic.
It's got radio transmitters and things
and dishes and things.
And the probe was aerodynamic and could descend into the atmosphere.
It had a drogue chute.
It landed and took pictures.
So you just, you design, you get the engineers to design what your needs are,
and then you're good to go.
And then you're good to go.
All right.
That's a great answer.
Thank you.
Keep it coming.
Matthew Ian Stanford from Warring, Pennsylvania asks,
what is the feasibility of force shields, energy shields, et cetera?
Are we anywhere near that sort of technology?
Yeah, I thought long and hard about force fields.
Yeah.
And no, we're not.
Not even from telekinetic women?
We're just not.
So here's the best example of a force field we have.
It's a bug zapper.
All right.
So the bug flies into the electrical zone of this mesh that is itself electrically charged.
You come near it.
The electrical charge wants to go through the bug once the bug is made available to it.
And so the thing discharges across the tiny little gap through the bug.
So that doesn't just sort of prevent you from entering.
It kills you on entering.
We could create such a thing as that.
So we could create, so like if a bunch of mosquitoes flew from another planet to get us,
we could murder them all with an energy shield that would kill them.
That would completely kill them.
But to have something that you touch and then recoil back from?
That's unlikely.
But you could create a shield that would murder aliens.
If the aliens were mosquitoes.
What if the aliens were bigger like elephant aliens?
When we come back, more Cosmic Queries edition.
I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson, your personal astrophysicist.
And in this edition, we're answering questions about...
Force fields.
Well, science fiction, sorry.
Science fiction.
Science fiction, but we're specifically right now still talking about force fields.
That's the voice of Eugene Merman.
When we left off at the last segment, I guess I didn't bring closure to the force field question.
Yeah, so we could have a force field around the earth that would protect us from mosquitoes could we could we have one that would
protect and it would kill them could we have one that protected us against uh like aliens the size
of elephants here here's something that matter here's the best force field i can think of you
have a static charged doorknob uh-huh I tell you, don't come through the door.
But I want to come through the door.
Don't come through the door.
And you touch the doorknob and you get shocked
every single time.
Yeah.
And so you, it works on lab animals.
So you want to set up a series of doors in outer
space that aliens will try to touch and then fail.
So here's something you have to consider.
If we had radio vision eyes.
Yeah.
We'd be able to, radio waves, we'd be able to see through wooden doors.
And so the door is only sort of solid and opaque in certain bands of light.
So if your goal is to just see through some kind of zone, you don't just find some band of light that can penetrate it.
Just find some band of light that can penetrate it.
If your object is to pass through it, I don't know of a field such as so commonly portrayed in science fiction films.
Yeah.
Like I said, other than you completing a circuit and a bolt of lightning going through. So an energy field that didn't kill people is very unlikely.
Or didn't kill things.
No, which is nothing we've invented yet and nothing I know how to even think about.
Well, maybe you and I after the show will create a force field.
And I don't claim total on every question here.
I'm just giving you my – my degrees in physics equip me to respond to these questions.
Somewhere in the NSA someone is laughing and calling us fools as they develop a totally harmless shield.
The NSA, National Security Agency.
They're in Virginia.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
I didn't want to give it away to our enemies, but okay.
If you drive down the Baltimore-Washington Parkway,
there's a turnoff to the NSA.
I always wanted to turn off and just bust in the front door
and say, oh, what's up?
That's today, but go on.
Definitely shouldn't leave a sign.
Okay, Jeffrey Bethel asks,
is artificial gravity
possible without using centrifugal devices good question i don't know any other way to make
artificial gravity oh really yeah uh there's there's gravity for free that you have and then
you spin something up so spinning so even tiny tornadoes in your shoes is that at all helpful here's the
problem you can make an attractive force using magnets uh-huh but it magnets a magnet suit that
made people float any way they will a magnet magnetic force is so much stronger than gravity
right now we have evidence of this right i can take a magnet and hover it over a pile of paper clips.
Yeah.
And there's the entire mass of the earth holding on to those paper clips, and they just pop up and talk to the magnet.
Yeah.
Right?
So the entire mass of the earth's gravity is insufficient to keep the clips down.
So you'd need like a really weak gravity maybe.
Yeah.
And you'd wear magnetic boots. you sound very unconvinced i
know it just i just rotate the damn thing and then you get your gravity and the good thing about
rotating is you can the speed of rotation all affects how much total sort of centrifugal force
there is out there and so you can go in one tenth g G, 2 G. If you're going to a heavier planet or a planet with higher gravity, you can practice for that.
Right.
Just dialing in what planet you want to go to.
So I think the rotation solution is really good.
I don't have a third.
How likely are helicopter shoes?
Like a shoe that you could fly with your shoes.
I'm almost making sense.
You get what I mean.
Helicopter shoes.
Shoes that had some sort of propellers.
Here's the problem.
And then your hands would have them too.
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah, so here's the problem.
You need an energy source.
And in Iron Man, they solve that.
They put one in his heart.
He's got one in his chest.
And they just tell you it's this huge source of energy.
You need that to be flying around.
You can't just put propellers on you and then believe that that is sufficient enough to fly.
Where you're getting your energy from.
And the rate at which a human being creates energy is insufficient for our own body to launch ourselves into flight.
So we need assistance.
Okay.
Yeah.
So then the answer is, yeah, helicopter shoes possible.
No.
Only if you have Iron Man's chest. Right. Right. Right. Only if you have a, okay. And then if you have his chest,
you don't need rotating blades, just use rocket propulsion. Yeah. In your iron suit. Yes. In your
iron suit. Sounds good. Brian Mikowski asks, is it possible to have a ship that generates its own
gravity field in front of it to actually pull the ship forward and have the gravity so strong that the ship would eventually break the speed of light?
Yeah, so the two things going on there.
So one of them, is that even possible?
Yeah.
All of our laws of physics tell us no because what would happen is the ship is just sitting there and not moving at all.
Yeah.
How much momentum does it have?
At that point, it sounds like very little, maybe zero. Yeah, exactly. Thank you at all. Yeah. How much momentum does it have? At that point, it sounds like very little, maybe zero.
Yeah, exactly.
Thank you, Eugene.
Yeah.
Well, you have to understand I got a C minus in science.
Zero momentum.
And so, based on the laws of conservation of momentum, it cannot simply put itself into
motion with its own anything unless it either loses mass out one end,
or something external to it is yanking
that has nothing to do with it,
is pulling on it from the other side.
Well, wait, what if it's shooting gravity in front of it?
I mean, I think that's sort of the question.
Is it possible to shoot gravity?
There's particles called gravitons,
which have never been discovered,
but we're pretty confident they exist,
that are the propagators of the gravitational force.
If we could wield gravitons, I don't – since we've never captured and isolated a graviton, I don't know its properties enough to know how we can exploit it for nefarious purposes.
And so it'd be intriguing how we might work with a graviton.
And so it'd be intriguing how we might work with a graviton.
Until then, I don't know any way you can just start still in space and just propel yourself forward and continue that forever.
So if it's possible to control the force of gravity through gravitons, which we don't know how they work exactly, maybe.
The laws of momentum would still have to be in play.
Okay.
So you'd have to – something would have to leave the spaceship.
The space shuttle – Kids. We could throw kids to leave the spaceship. The space shuttle.
Kids.
We could throw kids out of the spaceship. The space shuttle, which starts on the pad at what speed?
Zero.
Zero.
Good.
How does it then just start going up?
It sends fuel out.
It sends exhaust out the back so that the total momentum of the system remains zero.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Mark Hawkinson.
Oh, that's because momentum one direction cancels the momentum in the opposite direction.
That's why.
So you can have things in motion.
Right.
But they have to be in opposite directions and then they cancel.
This is the recoil of a weapon.
Right.
If you fire a weapon, something has to recoil back into your chest unless it's self-propelled.
Right.
Like a self-propelled rocket launcher, that sort of thing, or a bazooka is self-propelled.
Otherwise, the guy would completely get thrown backwards who's holding the bazooka.
So a simple bullet that comes out of a gun has a recoil and the momentum in your shoulder
equals the momentum of the bullet entering the target, period.
The reason why the gun doesn't go into your body and destroy your organs is because it has this huge butt at the bottom
that spreads out that energy across your shoulder, and then your whole body absorbs it.
Whereas the bullet, on the other hand, is a very tiny cross-section that goes straight into your body.
Right.
So the handgun, it's the heavy butt of a gun.
Heavy butt, yes.
Nice.
That's the recoil momentum
so that the total momentum remains zero.
Yes.
Agreed.
And if you want your bullet to have more momentum,
you have to run with it when you shoot.
That's what you should always do.
Just to help out that bullet.
If you really want to hit the guy,
you've got to really run and shoot.
Run fast with your gun.
Yeah, add a mile an hour to the bullet.
Mark Hawkinson asks,
Can an antimatter reaction cause a spaceship to have negative mass and allow faster than light travel?
No.
So it was intriguing when antimatter was hypothesized and discovered.
It was the natural question to ask.
Does antimatter have anti-mass?
Yeah.
And if it has anti-mass, does it have anti-gravity all right so these were
intriguing you know where does the negative sign go is what the question turned out to be
turned out anti-matter has opposite properties only in its quantum state which is a shorthand
for saying particles have spin and there's a measurements of particles that have that
that that exist in the quantum in the
quantum world and they're opposite for
antimatter and the existence of their
mass is not and it's just it's an
unfortunate fact otherwise we would be so
rock in the universe if we had antimatter
like if we could even just shoot a
something the size of a dime oh yeah if
we had if antimatter and anti-mass we'd
be all over it we We would love it.
All up in it.
Alright.
Let's get another one quick.
Can we do a quick one?
Okay, because Ian Probs really wants
to know, if faster than light travel
was possible, could one theoretically see
the Big Bang occur by traveling away from
the fixed point in space that it occurred in
for X amount of time?
If you travel faster
than light, you can travel backwards in time
and just visit the Big Bang yourself.
Nice. Yes, that's how that works. How likely
is that? It turns out
that Einstein's equations
allow you to
travel faster than light. Yes.
And I will get back to that after the break.
I don't know. We all have to go. Bye.
And the solution is...
StarTalk Radio, Cosmic Queries Edition.
We'll be right back. This is StarTalk.
The Cosmic Queries Edition.
Neil deGrasse Tyson here, your personal astrophysicist,
answering your questions submitted to us throughout our social media outlets.
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Why not? Only if we like you.
Yeah, obviously. You can't
dislike me, but you can
personally. You call these
questions from the internet. I haven't seen them.
It's all on sort of science fiction concepts. So the question was about traveling back to the Big Bang by being
able to go faster than the speed of light. And you're saying you actually could do that. I mean,
not you. I'm not saying we could do it or that we know how, but Einstein's equations that in a
basic read of them tells you that material objects cannot reach the speed of light. But you can put something, a material object in there that exists faster than light.
Uh-huh.
And then the equation has no problems with it.
What does that mean?
What it means is Einstein's equations do not work when material objects are given the speed
of light in the equations.
They blow up.
You're dividing by zero, essentially.
But if you go beyond that, the equations work just fine.
And so you can ask, what are the properties of these objects?
So if you had a Prius that was already going faster than light, you're fine.
You're cool. You're fine.
Same thing for a Porsche Cayenne.
I'd stick with the Porsche, not the Cayenne, not the SUV.
The Porsche minivan.
That's right.
That's really a minivan.
That's not an SUV.
No, yeah.
It's a minivan.
What the hell is Porsche making a-
I don't know.
We'll talk to them.
This is how they're going to sponsor the show to prove it.
Yeah.
So here's what happens.
We had a name for such objects,
for such particles,
if they existed,
and we took it from the Greek root of tachyos,
meaning fast,
and we call them tachyons.
Yeah.
And the tachymeter on a watch
comes from that same root,
which measures speed of things,
the tachymeter.
We don't have those anymore.
No.
Who would use a tachymeter
when you just use a watch?
You just use a watch.
But old timers know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, yeah.
So they exist faster than light.
And one of the other properties is that they would live backwards in time.
Uh-huh.
And if that's the case, and you're-
Like that lady on Doctor Who.
Yeah, actually, yeah.
Yeah.
So you, if you live backwards in time, just go back to the Big Bang and just watch it
happen.
But then it would be hard to return to the future.
No, you just go, find a way to zip around the speed of light again
and then go forward.
So you go fly around the sun.
Yeah.
I'm glad that we've worked that out.
All right.
Scott Auld asks,
in Star Wars, the spaceships often travel at the speed of light.
If time stops or does not exist at the speed of light,
how do they know when to stop?
I hope I read that correctly.
That is a beautiful alert and brilliant question, and you are correct.
Yeah.
At the speed of light, when they reach hyperspace, which is beautifully displayed at first in Star Wars and then Star Trek copied it, although Star Trek was the first to have the concept of warp speed that I know of on television and movies.
It was first in a Buddy Holly song.
That's right.
television yeah in movies those first in a buddy holly song that's right so so yeah if they're actually going at the speed of light by some way that they cheat time identically stops and if time
stops they would not know how to come out of speed of light and the way light knows how to stop
it hits something it's hit something right so these spaceships should theoretically be just
crashing into stuff and then that's how they ride.
I've never asked how they.
Now, there's a way to travel faster than the speed of light by not actually traveling faster than the speed of light.
And you use the warp drives of Star Trek.
There's where you're going and where you are.
Space has some fabric to it.
You warp it.
You cut a little hole like a wormhole, travel through the wormhole, come out the other side, unwarp the space, and you're where you needed to be during the TV commercial.
So that is not technically beating a beam of light
on its own journey.
Right.
You cut a hole and then you just walk through it.
You're legitimately cheating.
And it's not clear to me whether taking that route
would stop time for you and I'd have to do the calculations on it.
It probably wouldn't because you could travel slowly.
You'd go like 50 miles an hour as long as you cut space.
Yeah, exactly.
You can cut it as tight as you want or as loose as you want in 50 miles an hour.
Would be fine.
That would be lame, though, for the Starship Enterprise.
I think it would be pretty funny if it was just a guy walking through folded space
using all the energy of all the known stars.
Or a guy on a tricycle, yeah.
Yes, on a tricycle going to new worlds.
Okay, here uh another question um mark hawkinson oh i think he had a question earlier this guy's lucky uh while it isn't
canon while it isn't canon confirmed there have been theories about the flux capacitor and back
to the future captured tachyon particles and created a field of them
around the car at 88 miles per hour.
Should we discover tachyons,
would creating a field to time travel
be possible? We don't know if tachyons
would actually have fields.
So, if they're neutral, there is
no field. But if there is a field,
I think he... What's funny is he's
not just asking if time travel is possible, he's
asking if the flux capacitor would specifically work. which is a very funny way to limit.
Like, it's like, we know how to time travel.
Don't ask me about that.
Ask me about, right.
So, so we're talking about Back to the Future, of course, and 1985 film.
And so it's not obvious to me that tachyons would have any particular field at all.
That word we invented, we people around when this early 1970s, that was invented to describe anything that traveled faster than light.
And so the field theory of things that are traveling faster than light would be fascinating.
But it's not obvious that those fields would be fundamentally different from fields on the other side of the speed of light.
It's just not obvious.
Yeah.
So I'm not prepared to say wrap your vessel in tachyons, have it interact with your flux capacitor,
and like in Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, the tachyons will float your car over into the past, right?
Yeah.
So I just can't feel that.
Right.
It's a fun idea, though.
Great for a science fiction story yet to be written.
You're listening to StarTalk Cosmic Queries
back in a moment.
StarTalk, the Cosmic Queries edition.
Your personal astrophysicist here, Neil deGrasse Tyson,
with the one, the only, Eugene Merman.
Hello.
So, you're reading me questions about... I am. Science fiction.
Science fiction. So, give me more.
So, Tom Giacinto asks,
My favorite debate with my friends is the static 12 monkeys versus variable
back to the future concepts of time travel.
Which do you subscribe to and why?
Yeah, if I remember correctly,
the 12 monkeys scenario was one where
you can't change what you know already happened in the past,
even if you go back in the past to attempt it.
So that could be quite frustrating.
Meaning you would go back and kill past to attempt it. So that could be quite frustrating. It means you're kind of-
Meaning you would go back and kill Stalin, but nothing would happen.
No, it depends on when you killed him, right?
You'd kill him when he was a little baby.
Right.
That's when you kill anybody.
So in one scenario, you can't do that because forces would prevent you from accomplishing
this.
What kind of forces?
Like a Dyson sphere?
No, I'll give you an example.
In the original Time Machine by H.G. Wells, of forces? Like a Dyson sphere? No, I'll give you an example. In the original Time Machine
by H.G. Wells, you remember
he had a girlfriend or some lady friend of his
who died by getting hit by a bus
and then he said, oh, that's bad.
Let me prevent her from crossing the street.
And so she doesn't cross the street at the time the bus
goes and then she gets mugged
and killed from a mugging and then she prevents
the mugging and then something else kills her.
She dies in every scenario.
Yeah.
And so...
That doesn't sound realistic.
Well, he's saying
maybe there are certain fundamental truths
about a past that are already embedded in place.
But I have an observation of this.
The very fact
that she didn't cross the street
is a different past.
Yeah.
Just because she died in five different ways... She's doomed to die, but so is past. Yeah. Just because she died in five different ways.
She's doomed to die, but so is everybody.
Yeah, she dies, but why say that death is something that's constant,
but not the fact that she stepped in dog poo?
Her death is no less of an event in a history of time
as anything else that she does.
So it's rather artificial to sift it for events we care about, her death.
Yeah.
And say, that's what's constant.
When she didn't get hit by the bus, the bus driver didn't hit anybody.
Yeah.
How about in the life of the driver?
Yeah, he's thrilled.
He didn't kill somebody.
He didn't kill somebody in that new universe.
The mugger killed her.
So those universes are fundamentally different without specific reference to your loved one's
death.
So which one do I subscribe to?
I like changing the past.
Yeah.
I had to pick one.
Next question.
Okay.
Andrew Thomas Kellogg asks,
would travel to parallel dimensions be anything like it is conveyed in sci-fi?
Sliders or Star Trek, for example.
Yeah, would it be parallel universes with like a few things off
where you're like, Hitler has a silly hat?
Yeah.
Interesting thing about this whole slider concept is while you're moving into a higher dimension and then returning, you disappear entirely.
It's like the ant stuck in a page where if it's a prisoner of the page and then I want to move it to another place in the page, I pick up his friend, move the friend into the third dimension where I live.
Yeah.
And then the other aunt says, whoa, what happened to my friend?
Yeah.
She disappeared.
Yeah.
And then you put her back into the page and then she appears out of nowhere.
Yeah.
She's just fine.
She just had a view of the third dimension.
Oh, I see.
So what would it be like in those worlds?
Would they have a lot of the same historical events that we had, but all slightly different?
I think we would be taken from this dimension and then put on a different piece of paper.
Or we'd be put on a –
Oh, yeah, fine, fine.
The journey through those would be awesome.
Just imagine how your brain would react to hyperdimensional things.
So once you're put back in, oh, sure, it's just another place.
And if you have access to the time dimension as well as space dimension, I can pluck you out from the now and put you 30 years ago or 10 years ago.
Oh, that'd be so fun.
I wouldn't love to be in Mad Men,
except for most people.
Except for anyone who's female.
Yeah, okay.
Yes.
Or any non-smoker.
Yes, exactly.
Okay, Nicholas Garrett Nepple Klein asks,
are there any known ways something such as a lightsaber could be made with technology as it is now?
Light itself is non-material.
So even if you reflected it back and forth quite a bit.
It wouldn't cut people in half.
Well, okay, you can imagine a really intense laser.
But here's the thing.
Yes, it could cut things.
But when it hit another lightsaber,
they would just pass through one another.
They wouldn't block
like two swords would.
So, sure, you can imagine a lightsaber
that would cut things the way a laser
would. But two lasers cross each
other without any incident at all.
So the best defense against a lightsaber is
mirror gloves.
Nice. Mirror gloves and a lightsaber. mirror gloves. Yo. Huh? Nice.
Mirror gloves and a lightsaber.
I'm on it.
A mirror would so work for that, I think.
So lightsabers are possible, but they wouldn't clink against each other.
They're not out of the reach of known laws of physics.
You have to stretch a little, but they wouldn't be like swashbucklers.
Right, right.
You couldn't pull that off.
But it would be an awesome threatening thing that would cut things in half.
Yeah, but we already have that in their lasers.
Yeah, but not in a sword.
And we have like automatic weapons, right?
Yeah, but not a laser sword.
No, a laser sword, you have to actually be next to the person to kill them.
Right.
Whereas we have weapons that do better than that.
Sure. That can kill you 300 yards away.
You are not going to convince me that I don't want a laser sword, and you are not going to convince me that I don't want a laser sword,
and you are not going to convince people listening
they don't want a laser sword.
StarTalk Radio Cosmic Queries Edition.
We'll be back in a moment. We're back.
StarTalk After Hours.
The Cosmic Queries edition on...
Science fiction.
Science fiction.
That's the voice...
And the plausibility of some things.
The voice of Eugene Merman.
Eugene, when we left off, you kept trying to say you want a lightsaber.
Yeah. And I'm saying, on some level kept trying to say you want a lightsaber. I'm saying, at some level
I'm not impressed with a lightsaber because
I can just shoot you from 300 yards away.
Yeah, but you're limiting the point of a lightsaber
to battle. You're not saying like, oh, I'm camping.
I wish I had a lightsaber to gather wood
or to open a can
of tuna.
Or yeah, cut things up. I'm just saying.
We have knives. I want to kill that guy
so I'm going to walk right up to him within his arm's reach and then try to kill him.
Yeah, but what if it could replace steak knives?
Don't tell me you wouldn't really love grilling and cooking and eating out.
A bow and arrow is more effective than a lightsaber.
I'm sorry.
You can murder things at a distance, but not to cut a piece of meat.
Right.
Yeah, bow and arrow can't cut a piece of meat.
Or open cans.
You're right.
Open a can of beans in space.
We are in the lightning round.
Okay? I got my bell. We'll test it.
Alright, we're going to get soundbite answers
because we never have enough time to get to all the questions,
but we're going to get to as many as we can now. Ready?
Go! Edis Torelli
asks, would being beamed up
to different locations from Star Trek's
Beam Me Up, Scotty, be plausible in the future?
We so want that to happen.
And what I recommend, there's a book called The Physics of Star Trek
written by my friend and colleague, Lawrence Krauss.
He's a former guest on StarTalk.
He speaks at length about the Star Trek transporter.
We can teleport light, though, can't we?
The point is you need the information about who you are.
So just fax it over and then reassemble you over there.
But the question remains, are you still you? Next. You would have to shoot are. Right. So just fax it over and then reassemble you over there. But the question remains,
are you still you?
Next.
You would have to shoot yourself.
Okay.
Joe Walker asks,
can you explain
the application feasibility
engineering logistics
and just overall coolness
of a Dyson sphere
as shown in Star Trek
Next Generation
episode Relics?
Dyson spheres,
if you want energy,
what are we doing now?
We're digging it out
from under each other's feet
and killing each other for it. Which we enjoy. energy, what are we doing now? We're digging it out from under each other's feet and killing each other for it.
Which we enjoy.
Meanwhile, there are hurricanes, tornadoes,
earthquakes, that's energy
that's trying to kill us. One day we might be able to
harness that.
A machine that eats tornadoes and gives us light bulbs.
Exactly.
Or draws the energy from earthquakes. But there's another
source of energy out there, the sun.
Why not snare every photon that comes from it?
Right now, we only intersect the cross-section of Earth in the huge sphere at Earth's orbit.
Why not create a sphere at Earth's orbit and put solar detectors everywhere on its inner surface and snatch every photon from the sun?
That's a Dyson sphere, and we would be awesome energetic species if we did it.
We don't know how to do it just yet, but there's nothing-
Do we not know how to do it?
There's nothing preventing us in principle.
That's great.
There's no law of physics, even though it's very distant from an engineering standpoint. Next.
Matt Wilson asks, in the Asimov-
Matt Wilson?
Matt Wilson.
That is a place in California.
Oh.
Yeah, okay.
Great. Well, that place wants to know this one thing.
In the Asimov Classic Foundation series,
the home planet of the galactic empire, Trantor,
is essentially one city,
as in the city covers the entire planet.
What would be the effects on the atmosphere
and weather patterns were something like that to exist
without bodies of water?
I imagine the planet would not be habitable no matter how modern the city.
No, if you made a city that covered the entire planet and you knew how to do that,
then you just control your own damn weather.
I mean, you have geoengineering.
Right, right.
If you could do that, you've solved the problems he thinks are problems.
Exactly, which is my big gripe.
Silly man.
No, which is my big gripe about people saying,
we're going to destroy the Earth, we have to move to another planet, but first
we have to terraform the other planet. And I'm saying, if you
could terraform the other planet and turn it into
a planet that you can live on, then do
the same thing here on Earth, and then you don't have to leave
it in the first place. We could terraform countries we don't really
care about. Next, go.
Guillermo
Mura asks. Guillermo.
Yeah, Guillermo. Guillermo Mura.
William, it's William in Italian. Oh, okay, well then why not just write William Guillermo. Okay, Guillermo. Guillermo Mura. William. It's William in Italian.
Okay.
Well, then why not just write William Guillermo.
Okay.
All right.
Go.
Isaac Asimov's...
Jesus, everybody loves this Asimov character.
Isaac Asimov's foundation...
What does Jesus have to do with they loving...
It's an exclamation.
Okay.
Go.
Go.
From slang.
Go.
Isaac Asimov's foundation.
There is a device that can turn any metal into gold.
Is there anything closely resembling this in the present?
Can materials change their properties and become something else by machinery?
There's something called modern alchemy, and we do it every day in a particle accelerator.
You can take particles, slam them together, make bigger ones, take big particles, slam other things into them, break them apart.
So you can literally –
Can we turn like silver into wine?
You can-
The only thing that would really be maybe lead into wine.
That would be a little harder.
You need to make the carbon and the hydrogen and the oxygen from your silver.
Right.
But you can turn one kind of atom into another.
You can turn lead into gold.
You can turn gold into lead in a properly designed particle accelerator.
The problem is-
That sounds unnecessary.
Unnecessary.
The problem is the energy to turn lead into
gold is greater. The
cost of that is greater than just going down to the corner
store and buying gold on your own.
Next. Well, in a few years.
Maybe in three years. Okay.
Yes, the price is coming
down on turning lead into gold. So it's really
an issue of energy. Once we have
the energy, we'll have all the
gold we need. Right. and then the price of gold,
then it wouldn't be valuable enough to even do it in the
first place except for industrial needs.
Okay, go on. Okay, Kevin
conned me. Okay, Minority
Report had a bevy of technologies
that seemed entirely plausible. Many of
them have come into existence in some
limited form in the 11 years since
the movie's release. Memphis,
Tennessee is using an ibm program
named blue crush criminal reducing utilizing statistical history to predict crime what other
movies got it right in terms of theories or technologies oh you know what i well okay uh
star trek created itunes you know star trek predicted doors that open automatically when
you walk up to them yeah no. No, there's no,
that question is an entire episode of StarTalk unto itself.
Yes.
We will get into that.
We'll get into it.
We've got to end.
This has been StarTalk.
Oh, goodbye!
Oh, this has been StarTalk,
the Cosmic Queries edition,
funded in part by a grant
from the National Science Foundation.
I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Eugene Merman,
thanks for chilling with me.
We'll see you next time.
As always, keep looking up.