Stavvy's World - #155 - Demi Adejuyigbe

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

Demi Adejuyigbe joins the pod to discuss his new special "Demi Adejuyigbe Is Going To Do 1 (One) Backflip" (out 11/19 on Dropout TV), his obsession with baking, roommate kitchen wars, why movies don��t do Shallow Hal-type fat suits after 9/11, the expansive oeuvre of Marlon Wayans, and much more. Demi and Stav help callers including a guy who is put off by his buddy after he braggingly confessed to cheating on his girlfriend, and a woman who’s wondering if she has to go to every single of her boyfriend’s frequent family events.Watch Demi Adejuyigbe’s new special “Demi Adejuyigbe Is Going To Do 1 (One) Backflip” at Dropout TV on 11/19: https://www.dropout.tv/See Demi Adejuyigbe live and follow him on social media:https://demiadejuyigbe.com/https://www.instagram.com/electrolemon/https://x.com/electrolemonhttps://www.youtube.com/@demiadejuyigbe  Thank you to our sponsors!Shopify - https://www.shopify.com/stavvyAura Frames - https://auraframes.com/stavvy use code STAVVY☎️ Have a question for a regular episode? Call 904-800-STAV and leave a voicemail to get advice!🎟️ See Stavvy live on the Dreamboat Tour 🛥️💕!!! https://stavvy.biz/ for tickets‼️ Bonus episodes every week! Unlock exclusive, Patreon-only episodes at https://www.patreon.com/stavvysworld Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hopa! Welcome everybody to Stavvy's World 904-800 stop. Call in. We'll solve all your problems. We got Demia DiJuibe on the couch. Thanks for coming, Big Dog. Thank you for being here. There's such a large audience in front. That's not in the sound box. Yeah, no.

The bedroom goes back. The bedroom goes real back. We are here. This is actually the first time, you know, listeners of the show know that we have since rented half of the studio to our friends who just live here, but this is the first time they've been going about their business and are just in their living room listening to a podcast happen. I feel like they should have free reign to pop in a way to roommate a roommate would. That's true.

Just fucking be like, did you take, well, my roommates would be like, hey, um, did you see where my insert literally anything, toilet paper, I mean, not that I would, hey, we need to have a, I would love to just talk real quick about the dish situation. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, I don't want to be, I don't want to be that guy, but like, We all live here, man. Yeah, dude.

I am a much better... My podcast is a much better roommate than I am. Because I really... I truly was... It's just reality. I'm the guy who... I'm the guy who set the floor. I'm like broken window theory.

Giuliani was like one broken window and it's like just crime just happens. Yeah, yeah. I don't know that that's true of society, but in a fucking small apartment. One guy doesn't do his dishes. Everything goes to trouble with that. One guy leaves a fucking shirt on the ground.

And believe me, I was the bad element in every single apartment I've ever been in. I feel like I was always like, I got to keep the living room clean just because that's the common area. But it would be like the kitchen would be the place where I'm like, I'm trying, but I also, I cook and I bake all the time. So I'm just at a certain point, I'm like, you got to accept it. Of course. You just got to accept that that's going to be that way. Oh, we're talking communal goodies?

Yeah. Oh, dude. That, they see, I would, I cooked, I would cook and use every fucking dish. I would use every. And they would be like one and a half servings for me. And then I would be like No one would get anything out of it And it would just

So your two options where I'm trying to be healthy Let me fucking You know Make vegetables and use literally every pan We ever had And then while Be pissed off because it wasn't so good And not really clean the fucking thing

Or I'm ordering so much takeout That it's like The trash is just filled with There's a new bag of Do you feel like that is a measurement Of like how you're doing Where it's like I'm cooking a lot Versus like I'm ordering takeout

I'm not I'm in a bad spot. Because I feel like for me it is. Absolutely. Well, there's no good spot. Okay. Yeah. We're at a six is the best.

Dude, literally, for whenever I had, like, I don't think, because me and elders used to live together for a while, I don't know that I've ever been, I was going to say, I don't know that I ever been mentally stable when I had roommates, but I don't know that I've just ever been mentally stable. Sure. Like, I think that's the reality. I mean, part and parcel for a comedian. It's like, we're doing the best when it's just like we're on stage a lot, but that's just because

we're running from. 100% love running from everything love being away from my thoughts absolutely it stresses me out to be busy but like when i see the calendar filling up like the last couple weeks i've been trying to like plan and take it easy i'm useless in the next couple weeks where we fill up the calendar i'll i'll be pissed i'll be like oh i'm so busy but yes and you have to talk about it like i'm just like i'm just i need a break man totally the second you get a break is like what the fuck do what do i need a routine goddamn when i was the last time i was living with someone uh i had a roommate through the pandemic and it was like i was like i was baking every day just as a thing that I needed a task I needed a thing to do you were a baking guy during that we all went different ways you were baking I was a baking guy a little bit before and then a lot during the pandemic and still a lot just as I feel like it's like it gives I keep saying it's like microdosing control I'm just like sure I have this thing that I have a task with it's very precise too yes and it feels great and but I remember uh there was one day I came home and my roommate at the time was just like hey I reorganized the kitchen you're

welcome and I was like oh no you need to move out Oh, no, dude. And I texted him, like, the next morning, just like, I remember, you remember how when we moved to your, you told me that you were going to look for your own place? Do you? And he was like, yeah, okay. And it was like, that was the breaking point for me. I was like, I actually need to be crazy in this one square foot of the house. Oh, that's so funny. Yeah.

He was like, oh, yeah, it's all good. Don't worry about the measuring cups. There's somewhere completely different. He straight up was like, oh, where are like the spoon, like the big spoons? He's like, oh, I put them away. I didn't think you used them. I was like, what you were? What about that banana bread you've been munching on every other day?

That's the thing also. I baked it all the time for both of us and was like, oh, yeah, take this. And so the idea that he was just like, he's not using this. I'm like, this would kill me. I felt like, did he ever cook? Occasionally, but not really. Wow. It also, it felt I was like, that's the closest I'm going to get to feeling like how, like, a mother feels.

We're just like, you don't appreciate anything I do. You little shit. I mean, yeah. Dude, that would fucking drive me insane. I guess for me, the equivalent would be like, hey, I put, I organized all the weed and video game controllers. I guess I'm trying to think like what my, or if you like put my,

I put my pints in a different place of the freezer, that would piss me off. I really was useless. I mean, I don't think I ever, on Christmas I would buy a Christmas tree. Like for your, yeah,

communally, that was. I love that. I feel like I stopped, my parents, I'm always just like, hey, you come to California and this is me

because I'm like, I want to decorate. I go home, they're like, hey, if you want to decorate, I'm like, I'm not decorating your house.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You come to mine and I'll decorate my place. But it was like, when I had a roommate, I was also just like, I'm decorating because I want to. I need to get in the festive season. He's just like, cool. Yeah, yeah. I'll accept it.

What were your roommate's setups? Were they like friends? Were they randoms? Was it like? Ever since I've been in L.A., it's been friends. It's been like really good friends. And then occasionally it's like my friend will be like, two times it happened that it was like a friend would move to New York and then another like comedian would move in.

And I feel like there was a time where it would be like, I think I'm like the good luck. Chuck for comedians who then moved to New York and I hear about them like oh they're doing really well my god that's great for them yeah yeah they eat your fucking scones and now all of a sudden they got a development deal exactly yeah what are your what are your go-to baking what are we talking about what's your favorite thing to bake I what are some things you're excited about some new ones you want to throw in there but what's like old reliable if you really had to wow someone with your with a baked good I feel like old reliable for me is like pies in general like my From my friend's mom, one Thanksgiving when I first met this friend,

he introduced me to his mom's mango pie, which is now a recipe that's like in the New York Times, but it's like I've got it down to it like it's in my brain. I can make it any time. It's fucking good. It's like a custardy pie with a gram cracker crust. Sometimes you make a ginger snap crust. It gives it a little kick. It's really good shit.

I might need a second. My dick is getting hard thinking about mango. I've never even considered, you're fucking blowing my mind. I didn't think about it either. And then you think it's like... And it's a custard? Yeah. It's like a gelatin.

It's really good. God, that's awesome. Where are they from? Where's that like from? India. Sick, dude. It's really good. All right.

So then you... So mango... I mean, if I came to a house and I saw mango pie, something I haven't even heard of and it's executed beautifully. Yeah. That would be fun.

And it's like, it's extra impressive because it's like, it's not... You're not Indian. Right. Like when you've got to trick up your sleeve from a totally different culture, you're like I'm a learned world traveled man

I completely nailed their like a friend's cuisine and you've never heard of it it's like you're scoring like you're scoring so many points wow this guy's so culture and I'm just like yes I learned this in Eagle Rock yeah I learned it 20 minutes down the road but yes yeah oh I love that the mango pie I also I love pies in general I feel like when I get really excited when it's like a like a fruit pie that I can actually do

like the lattice or shapes on top of like an apple or reubarb. Then you're flexing. Then you're really flexing. That's really what it is. I love it when it's like a friend's birthday. I'm like, I'm writing happy birthday on it in the pastry. That's big.

Probably, I mean, look, I don't want to tell you what to do. I don't even know what your situation is, but you kind of got your proposal ready to go. Will you marry me in fucking pie crust? The thing is...

You got to marry maybe a plus-sized gal. I don't know what your tastes are. You know what? It's like that Louis Primis song, the bigger the figure. It's like, ah, I got a woman. It's like, I'm feeding her. She loves it.

Honestly, dude, I would love to see you with a big... I think that's an awesome couple. Yeah. You and a big girl. Everyone's just like, he can't handle all that. I'm like, I'm smiling back and I'm like, I can't. It's true. That is a classic relationship.

Whenever you see like some people that are like mismatched physically, you're like, you're always like, what the fuck's going on there? And it's always something awesome. Yeah, you're like, bear in love. Like Danny DeVito and Ray Operman, you're like, bear in love. Yeah, yeah. And they can save money on mattresses. They're in a twin X-L.

They got plenty of room. You know? You know, the thing about, like, making, like, pies for women or something is, like, you know that quote that's like, if he writes you a sonnet, he loves you, if he writes you 300 sonnets, he loves sonnets? Oh, yeah. It's like, at this point, it's, like, such a thing that I do for myself that people are like, well, he does this. Yeah. That's a good point. Yeah.

She would be like, oh, how many pies have you baked for other women in a piece of shit? Yeah. And the answer is a lot. Both platonically and romantically, a lot of times I just be like, do you want a pie? I'm bored. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, dude, that's incredible stuff. I respect that.

I, I dabbled in making my own pies for Thanksgiving years ago, and it was a nice experience, but I've never gone back. And, you know, I'm more of a roast. I'm more of a meat guy. Totally. I'm going in there, but I would really love to add dessert to my repertoire, or at least get one really, get like three awesome things. Fuck, dude, you might have inspired me. I feel like for Thanksgiving especially, there's a few things that you can do

where it's like, this is easy and shareable and you can show up with a thing and people be like, this is festive, but it doesn't feel like everyone's going to do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a bar with some cranberry in it or some sort of like... A little twist on it. Yeah, like something pumpkin, something apolly.

You got so many fall flavors that you can just be like, I made this little thing and it looks so impressive. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Were you like a lick the spoon when mom was baking kid? yeah absolutely this is where it's all started exactly yeah and i'm just trying to get back to that just like i'm like this will fix me if i can just get back to my to the primal days of being six oh dude licking the spoon i have a memory one of my literally best fucking christmas memories is like let my mom would make uh my mom would make like um she makes these like honey

olive oil cookies that are incredible uh and she'll but but like they're not that great They're not really lick the spoon fodder or whatever. And one year she made, she decided to make like a more custody-based, like, dessert. We call it a lactobureko. And she'll throw it in there, too. And I fucked that thing. I fucked all the, like, extra cust. I just had a bowl of extra custard as like, you know, that was my dinner.

And then, like, I came back maybe three hours later. And we had a basement set up where it was like in our kitchen, there was like a shitty TV. where we used to play like video games and we would like, you know, and you would just kind of throw on TV and like snack. Truly, again, never been happier. And we had a specific crab dip

from Price Club, now Costco. And it was, and I've, and with these pita chips. And I just have a, my only, my Christmas memory is licking, not eating the pastry. Yeah.

Licking the fucking leftover custard out of a bowl. And then when my family was gone, coming back and eating like crab crab I ate the whole fucking Like I got yelled like You went crazy on sauces

I went crazy on just On just creams Yes exactly I don't even And that's That'll show you The The system of a fat child

Didn't affect me at all I took that like My stomach's chin Was so strong back then I probably shit solid somehow Even though that's what I put in my body Today I'm done for weeks If that happens

It'll take you down But there's something primal about the idea. It's like, because it's all the same type of food, whether it's solid or not. But when it's like just a cream, it's almost you going like, I can sit back. I can slurp this. I don't have to work the jaw. It's just going, just give me the strict straight. Like, I don't, yeah.

I don't have to take it in shots. Exactly. To this day. My jaw limiting factor on calorie consumption. Oh, those fucking muscles that it was such a three muscles. I feel like nowadays when I bake, I rarely eat the final thing. It'll be like this is just for someone else. But if I taste it at all, it's like in the process of making it.

I'll have the batter. I'm like, that's good. That's it. That's all I need for it's solid. You just know it's good. Yeah. You're on the next level, dude. Yeah.

I respect that. What, did you have, were you like a, do you have a big family? Was it like tough to get in the mix with the desserts? It would, I, we had like a big extended family. Okay. Which is shocking to me because my family is from Nigeria. Yep. And we moved to Plano Tech.

We lived in Irving when I was a kid and then we moved to Plano, Texas. It's where I lived most of my life. And still, like, they'll have, like, alumni reunions and I'm like how are there that many people from your college around here and it's like I think there was just a big exodus of Nigerian people to Texas to the point that now they're just like yeah all of your family and your relatives live within striking distance they can come over and I'm like the house fucking packed I got to just sit in my house for Thanksgiving or whatnot oh interesting so it was like yeah because I mean

we had that too at our school there was like a ton of Nigerians who just it felt like they were all it was like like families yeah and like I'm like my stereotype for Nigerians that they love college. Every Nigerian, like, truly, like, dude, every Nigerian, like, every college in Maryland was like, like, the foreign students were, there were so many Nigerians where I was like, dude, this is, these motherfuckers love going to college. You're just, you just, this feels like a, like a selection bias thing, which is like, a lot of Nigerian people here.

Nigeria's, but it's also like, well, white people are here, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, there were no Greek, I guess I'm thinking of like, pure ethnic groups, probably, like, there would be like a handful of. Greek people like we didn't see any Albanians over there like and like the the Nigerian like student groups were always fucking lit as hell they would always and like on like kids I went to like kids I went to high school with who then went to like my college they like knew a shit ton of people from and they weren't from Baltimore and I was like whoa this is fucking like and so I get why like

a whole group just fucking comes and then that they just have a community there yeah exactly that's the thing also is like if you're moving to a new country you're like we have to go where other people like us are, which is also how people like get, like, sort of stick to religion in a way where it's like, we're going to church, for no reason other than we need to be in a similar place than we're totally. But I feel like with black and African communities, it is very much like your parents from the age, like the youngest age, just like whatever, do whatever, but you have to go to college.

It's a source of like, you've got to do this to prove to other people to prove to us, whatever. And then past that, it's like, you'll figure it out. Yeah. So I get the idea of it. Well, it's like the immigrant. Yeah, it's like the specific immigrant groups where it's like, Some immigrants come over and they go right into some industries. And then some of them just like, yeah, we're fucking, give us a couple generations.

We're going to, you know, doctorates, all this other shit. Where it's like, every Greek motherfucker hang you was like, let's, we're going to be contractors. We're going to fucking work diners. Like, we're going to, and I would get made fun of growing up because I wanted to go to college. That's so funny. Because they were like, we're working at our dad's carryout. We already make fucking three grand a week or whatever. Four years of their money.

Okay. Do what? We'll see you here back here after that. And they were, they were like young as fuck with like next tells and like, you know, they were just like,

because they were 14 and they were essentially like the weekend manager of a fucking restaurant. I miss that. I miss the like the like precocious young business boys. Yeah, dude.

Like standing out, I want to be walking around the city standing around, seeing them standing around bodegas, you're saying, hey, hey, hey,

no, come here, come here a real second. I'm like, who are you talking? It's like, you are 16. Yeah, dude, for real.

You know, You know, you're schwin. They would, like, I would go in, you know, they'd give you free pizza, and they would, like, they would, like, admonish a worker who was, like, a grown man. Yeah. And they'd be like, the fuck, I told you. And I'm like, this feels wrong. This is just crazy. This feels fucking insane.

It's like, I should be like, I'll beat your ass. Don't talk to me like that. It was like a little, it was like watching King Jop. We had so many King Joffries, but their kingdom was like shitty crab cakes and pizza and shit like that. And I just remember being like, this is wrong. The world. This is like, we have. We have little tyrants.

No, it does not feel good. Like pizza nepo babies, essentially. Yeah. If I ever saw a child be like, come here. To a grown man, I would just be like, somebody hit him. I would be like, I think child abuse is okay now. Somebody hit this boy. Well, they were so fucking spoiled.

I mean, all those kids were like fucking spoiled. Everyone thinks that their kid is like, it was, dude, it was just so funny where in Greek town it was like everyone was trying to be, it was all like, almost like warring factions of different people, all just like wanting to have prestige within the community. There was no, no one was that,

there was like one rich guy who like made a lot of money because the roof of his roof, the roof of his like machine shop collapsed. So he sued the place. And then he just invested it back in and he became like a millionaire. But it was like,

if that roof wasn't faulty, you're not rich either. Do you have the energy of like everyone bowed down to me? Like he's like, I worked hard for this and like, kind of. Well, he kind of became like, Like, yeah, he would be, and, you know, I remember going to, like, lunches and this motherfucker's, like, having, like, local politicians come up.

And it's just, like, that weird, you're like, oh, this is the lowest level of, like, like, uh, like, um, not conspiracy, but, like, uh, corruption, whatever, like the absolute lowest level, yeah, of corruptions, but it was, it was nice to dabble in it, I guess. Totally. Um, do you want kids? This is, this feels like a, like a, like a, a big jump, but I'm asking because I'm, like, I'm thinking, would you raise a kid in this city? would you go back to Baltimore? Yeah. Well, the community shit is really important. I don't know how you feel about it.

Like, I don't know what it was like, because it sounds like you grew up in a big Nigerian community. And like, I both hated and liked growing up around, like, well, those specific Greek people was like, they kind of, everyone moved from different parts of Greece. And then they all had this like provincial villager attitude

where in Greek town, a shitty neighborhood in Baltimore, became like a village again. And they didn't want to explore the rest of, of the world and it was like or if the the biggest idea of their world was like the sub the nice suburbs of baltimore but the idea that they would do anything kind of different didn't really exist they were and i i just didn't like that but i do and i'm not religious anymore but even i'm like there's something to going to a most communities are anchored around

a church yeah and there's something about the non-religious elements of that shit that's like that if i could figure it out culturally i want my kid like i almost feel like a boys and girls club or something. Something like that. Like, and even part of me is also like, I came out this way because I went to church realized it was fucking dumb. Yeah. And it's like, like, when you start with a kid who's like, I don't want to tell my kid,

God's not real. You know what I mean? Like, I want to be like, yeah, go to church. We all had to go to church. You got to let them like figure it out. Yeah. You know what I mean? To stand up to you at some point and you're like, yeah, great.

You're here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I can tell you you. You didn't have to do that anyway. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. So, and who knows, I might just be, I might be on uncle mode.

I'm kind of built to be. It's kind of ideal. It's the best. But I know, so many people around me are having kids and thinking about having kids that I just feel like, oh, my whole life I've been dragged into adulthood. I've always been the last one. Yeah. So I could, I don't know.

What about you? Would you? I have always imagined myself having, like, one kid and being like, I'd be a really good dad to, like, a daughter. Yeah. And I wouldn't know what the fuck to do with a son. I just be like, what do you guys like? What do you want to fucking, I don't know. But I also feel like, in terms of like where to raise them, there's sometimes that I'm like, it'd be great to raise a kid in New York.

So it just feels like no matter what I do, like community is around you. You have to take the train. You have to be around people. It's not like I'm isolating you from the world. Yeah. I am like, it feels like it'd be good to raise them in L.A., but it would just be boring in like a lot of work in a way that just feels it's like the idea of like building community for this kid in New York is like you have to have. to actively be like I gotta take you to this thing

I gotta make you do this thing like like I have to work harder that's interesting because I always thought of like I always thought it was fucked up when a kid grew up in Manhattan really like it just feels like

it's not a place they should be around like I just like on the island you shouldn't allow kids after like 6 p.m. Yeah you should get like waivers to go see Lion King

or whatever the fuck yeah and then it's only good from Midtown and you have to go back like like like express trains like back to your house

yeah yeah yeah child only express trains and we got to promote we got to patrol those big time. Yes, we have to. The NYPD, instead of looking at your fucking phone and doing Candy Crush, maybe fucking make sure those stay child-only.

They're IDing children on the board, and it's like, that was a trick. If you have an ID, get the fuck off here. You're right, fuck. All right, we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Maybe a trolley, that's kind of women's cool. As with all of my ideas, the problem comes down to you. Ah, I forgot about pedophiles. Fuck, that doesn't work because of pedophiles.

I had a gag-nab pedophiles. I had a joke I used to do on stage where I was like, they should do a program at Disneyland where like because people get jaded and it's like you can sponsor like a child like a poor child's trip to Disneyland where you're like their chaperone you see it through their eyes and you're just like oh maybe this is magical and I'm like ah forgot pedophiles though You can't do it. You can't be doing that. You can't do shit anymore because of pedophiles. You can't open up the whimsy.

I think Bill Burr had a good joke about that where he's like pedophiles ruined just like going up to like a little chubby kid on the on like the kind of on like the playground and musseling up his hair. He's like you can't do that anymore. You cannot do that. You should be like, ah, get out of here, you little slugger and like, you know, give him a little fucking tap on the back. And it's like a big pet on the back. But it's like, no, you can't do that. You cannot do that. You have to really be.

friends with the babies. Probably should have never been doing it, but also you used to be that. You know, I listen, that's a fact here they used to get must around quite a bit. I think it did help my development somehow. You think it made you more confident. You're just like, all right, I guess this is a thing that we're going to do. I think so. It made me, it sort of, I was the, you know, you're this, you know, you're going to get your cheeks pinched.

You know, you're going to, you know, people are going to come up and kind of fuck with you a little bit. Absolutely. And I don't know. Was it positive? Was it negative? It made me more resilient. It made me know. Did it make you more bitter

Where are you like, this gonna fucking happen every time? After a certain point, yeah But you know what it's good It teaches you to stand up for yourself Sure Because at a certain part I was like, All right, enough cheek pinching You started sounding like those kids

Of the peace place It's just like, hey, I don't gotta take this from you It's like, okay, well, I'm still 35 So calm down Yeah, no, it was, you know I don't know So we'll see about Uncle Mode might be fine

But it's interesting you say You wouldn't know what to do with a little, you prefer a daughter? I think I, I think I'm destined to be a girl dad. Like, I think even in the way that I live my life, sometimes I meet a guy and I'm just sort like, what do we? What was the crew like growing up? Was it, were you with a bunch of, like, do you have, do you hang out of bros?

Was it like, no, hang out with girls? It was like, I had like a couple of good male friends. And then as I got older, it was like, it is mostly women now. And it's like, I think my best friends, almost every age past like seven was a woman. Interesting. Cool. Huh. That's so, because like, I, that's, I, I've never, I've always just had this like bro. It always feels like being a dumbass bro is like the, um, sort of like the default setting. Sure. And that like I've been, I've definitely had, I always had like friends, you know, I always had like very close female friends, but it does feel like, and part of it is because I've known my best friends for, like me and I've been friends, we were like five. Um, and. And, We just, I think, I feel like I locked into a specific dynamic. Yeah. Where I was, we were literally five.

And that like, it was me, eldest, another one of our friends. And it was just like, I don't know. I feel like from a young age, that vibe of just like being fucking dumb as shit with your bros. Yeah. Was just the like, the absolute, the most like comforting, not, it just wasn't, you know. Yeah. I don't know what it is where it was like, and when we were little kids, I think the first time

I mean Are friends Do you feel like There's a thing of like You don't have to perform When you're around your bros And you kind of feel like You might have to when you're around girls

Oh interesting Yeah maybe I feel like I always felt that a little bit But sometimes it felt more like It's like well now I have to perform around the guys When it's like well I guess I gotta do the guy Or I got to be like the dumb guy

I don't know No that's interesting because I've definitely met I have met guys Who Have gotten attention Who either were comfortable around women or the one that really sticks out to me is guys who were like always good with women

and always had like female attention and weren't nervous around women but we didn't know how to make friends and were like more nervous around a group of bros and they weren't even like it wasn't like a cultural thing right it wasn't like this guy's like sensitive or into fucking you know whatever like he was like a sports bro

he was like a run-of-the-mill bro but he just he couldn't get the respect of men in a way that he could get the attention of women and I think that made him nervous where it's like I don't know I was always the flip side where it was like I was the best of making friends like I would I feel like

being a good hang is my best skill yeah that's how I am now totally yeah but I was when I was younger I was so nervous to talk to girls and I was so and I wonder if it kicked in before puberty but I mean by puberty forget about it it was like I think part of the problem is that some of yeah it's like there's a general nervousness

for most of my life around and just not understanding once it became a thing where you're like oh I have to get girls to like me it kicked in my social anxiety and I didn't have that I had no social anxiety before

because I was like I'm fucking great of being social but once it was like get a girl to like you it made me so nervous that it took me I don't know like now I have a ton of female friends

but I will say it's still it still feels like the absolute crow magnet and then, like, just fucking dumbass caveman version of my brain. Yeah. It does feel like there is something about just being totally free that it's like you got to be with the bros on some level. I get that.

Where it's like, I don't know that that's true. Like, but it's just like a night where we're just getting high as fuck and, you know, just completely destroying each other, saying the most mean things to your best friends. Yeah. I would feel bad on something weird, like, I guess is it chivalry to like have

to like have a girl around in those kinds of atmospheres You're like we should be protecting her from this almost Yeah although there are definitely women who Pass that test But they're like lifelong friends Who I've been through you know We've been through so much with

I think for me And this is just theorizing I think there was a thing where like as a kid I always felt like If I hung with dudes I would become like the butt of the joke Or the word be like Oh I can't really like

hang in the same way that, like, I don't pass the test in the same way that you guys do with each other. I don't have the same mattress. And when I hung out with women, it was just like, oh, I don't have to pass that test. And it became like a thing where it's, it becomes like, it's so easy to be friends with women. And then it became a thing where it's like, well, now someone who also dates women, it's hard. It's like, I can very easily make a friendship with a woman. And then it's like, well, now try and date women. I'm like, I don't know how to flip that switch.

Oh, interesting. And then when I hang with men, I'm just sort of like, there's almost this thing of like, I don't care of you like me. Right. I'll hang, but also ultimately I'm just sort of like... You're free now. Yes. We're both free in that way where it's like you lose that like those childlike childhood anxieties. But yeah, it was just...

That's interesting though, because you were like comfortable. What was your first approach? Were you like be friends with a girl first, then tell her you have feet? Like, did you ever... I used to do that so much. And ultimately I was like, this is such a bad way. Like, it's never once worked. and it's it's fucking

I'm Charlie Brown kicking the football being like this time I'm gonna hit the football after a year of being friends I think I'm gonna spring it on her and never once work no it's awesome yeah and I now it's just sort of like I will just it's like if there's someone that it's like

I'm interested in them and I become friends with them and then very quickly I'm just like oh we're too friendly I'm almost my brain shuts it down just being like you don't like them enough you're friends now and it's like comforting and nice but yeah I just feel like I never The being friends thing

I feel like it's something every guy has to try when they're young and then quickly learn that it's like this won't work and also they'll be frustrated Of course Yeah Because when you're young

You're like well When do I take off enough toke Like when do I do it You just feel like Well it's like like girls Or like video games Where I put it's enough time I'm nice to them

I'm nice to them 15 times They give me pussy You know and you're like no You have to actually Talk about how you feel and like make it and they think you just want to be friends. It's not like some secret game that you get to, you get to just like unlock. You just got to be a fucking human being. But it is also tricky because there are sometimes where it does feel like you reach this mutual feeling of like, well, we have become friends now.

And because of that, someone who feels closer and is like open to a relationship. But it is like, it's that thing of like every woman is different. You can't really. Of course. But it can't be from the get go just being like, all right, going to just hang out. around for a bit. Lay in the cut. Yeah. Put in my time. Yeah. Although

I've gone back to being like, maybe that's how I'll find a wife, you know, on some real romantic comedy shit. Yeah. Friendship. Oh, I just hang with the bros and it's like, hey, you've been hanging out with Rachel like, Rachel? Nah, no, we're just friends. I've never even... No, dude. She's just at the office. Yeah.

She's actually a fucking idiot, if you ask me. Just because she smells good and always wearing that perfume. Does this thing with her eyes whenever she's laughed. It's like, all right. Okay. Yeah, dude, maybe I'll open myself up to a rom-com. Do it. You know, that's the way to go.

Yeah. That little rom-com lifestyle. Like, you can just opt into it? Yeah, why not? Okay, yeah. Just be whimsical, make a friendship. Hmm. I got to think this through.

Because usually I'm the, if it was a real rom-com, I would have a, I would be the best friend. You got to have a fat guy is the best friend. Sure, yeah. Kind of, although I guess that's what Hitch flipped. It made the fat guy the star. But he also was the best friend. That is true. It's like, yeah.

Strodinger's fat best friend. He's both the star and the fat best friend. Yeah, the shallow hal. Yeah, the shallow howl. Now there's some cinema right there. It's insane that that was like a, the Jack Black. Also, Jack Black was fat. Why didn't they pick a sexy guy?

They, no disrespect to Jack Black. He's a hot fat guy, of course. And we don't badmouth, you know, the plus-size community here. Of course. But it's like, he's the, The guy that was shallow? He's the guy that wouldn't fuck a fat lady? Why?

I don't believe that for a second. It's so crazy also how, like, the message of the movie is sort of ruined by the movie itself of being like, and to show you that she's good on the inside, we'll have a sexy lady. And it's like, okay, then you don't, you really don't, you're not doing it. And then do you remember, like, how much, how well do you remember this movie? I don't remember very well. There's a scene where, like, he has his power and goes to, like, this burn ward full of

children who have been like horrifically burned and he sees them all and he's like oh they look great like these are such nice kids why they're here and then he realizes he's in the burn board and it's like oh they're all actually ugly I see and that's how we sort of that's like the third act twist of like I learned my lesson because the children with horrific burn scars are actually look actually they're like like look fine to me yeah they've opened my eyes to realize the girl I've been seeing as a pig yeah thanks to these disfigured children and they also have like Jason Alexander has like a tail like a prehensile

like pig tail and now when I think God even just saying this I'm like at some point in this movie someone should just be like does that work? Yeah I mean there was so maybe it was there was so many of those moments that it just became like dazzle camouflage there was too much

Yeah they're just like it's like look we got to get this in or people won't watch it at all and so we'll try and like backdoor our message in a little bit and you know everyone came out the movie just being like, bro, I'd fuck when to Paw Patrol. It's like, all right, well, we tried. Also, her, why would you make that choice?

Why would, did they put him a fat suit or was it CGI? Put, who, her? I think it had to be a fat suit that they did. Let's look it up. Let's look it up. Oh, I just assumed it was like they cast another woman as the bigger I don't believe so. Which also now, I'm like, that's awful. That would be tough.

You're going to play the fat version of it. It's like, uh, okay. She did wear a fat suit. The two thousand in one movie, wow. Insane. Holy fuck. Holy shit, that's fucking crazy. The lips are crazy.

The lips, the chin, it's like, why couldn't she basically keep her face but plump it out a little bit? What the fuck? That's nuts, bro. Dark. That's fucking crazy. Was this before, this was 2001. So it's like 9-11 really reset a lot of stuff. Yeah.

Culturally. This shit was not happening post-9-11. They're like, no frivolous fucking. Yeah, 9-11 happened, Jack Black was like, we got to respect our women, man. What are we doing to our beautiful queens? That's fucking insane. I honestly, I feel like... That's fucking insane, bro.

The worst thing is, I don't think that... I think we're like five years away from this kind of thing coming back in a way that we don't really see until we're then 20 years out. Interesting. Where it's like, oh, yeah, no, after COVID and the Trump presidency, we went really hard on this kind of thing. Interesting. What do you think? Like, what... Because everyone seems to be, I don't know how true it is,

but people are saying woke is coming back in a big way, which I would love. I would make the trade off. Yeah, that would be great. I think it's very clear that, you know, tattletails, society was better when it was ruled by tattletails instead of actual militant. Like, it's not an equivalency.

Like, Bill Maher was like, okay, we just need to, the left needs to stop with their woke nonsense, and the right needs to stop with their slide towards authoritarianism. It's like, are those the same, Billmore? Are those really the fucking... Can you just admit you're wrong? And annoying people, people are a little annoying and a little sensitive. It's better if they rule the country than the fucking guys.

People you can ignore, by the way. It's like, hey, you put your gun down. You, shut up. Yeah, yeah. Shut up, nerd. And go about your life versus like, put the gun down. Please take your mask off. You have to identify what part of the law enforcement you are.

And then you get butted in the fucking head. Yeah. The thing about people complaining about woke is always just. just like, it's the same thing as that, like, Tyler the creator tweets, like, how is cyberbullying real? Yeah, yeah. Just close the computer. I'm like, yeah, just don't listen to them.

For real. And it's like, I want you to listen to them. But also, if you don't, you can live the life that you want. Oh, no issue whatsoever. They are not in power. The, like, trans people telling you to respect their pronouns are not in power. It's not this authoritarian thing. We're literally seeing motherfuckers just disappear people off the street.

Yes. So, I don't know, what do you, like, I guess I'm trying to think culturally what the, what the shift will be because that's interesting you're saying like silly shit that we find problematic or what do you think i think it's going to be like in 10 years time we'll be like i can't believe we let that happen so many times interesting but i yeah i don't know what that thing's going to be it's like hmm yeah because right now what are they even made i mean i don't even it's it's hard to even say what i you know what it might be is like overly serious television like prestige like prestige TV a little bit has gotten to like

cookie cutterish a little bit I mean maybe you see that with all the like yellowstone clones or whatever like building out that I mean culturally that seems a little you know like yeah who knows maybe how serious everything got hopefully there's a I mean this comedian's hoping that shit gets funny again sure yeah actually make comedies but who fucking knows I don't know

that's that's an interesting question they make one a year and then they're like I didn't wear It didn't work out that well. We're not going to do it. We're going to go back to... Naked Gunn was fucking good, though. Fantastic. Naked Gun was really good.

My fear with that, though, is that everyone's like, oh, great, then we'll do more, like, parodies and, like, just do it the wrong way. Or, like, yeah, parodies are, like, legacy seat. Because, like, the whole point of that was, like, they took that into consideration, and it made sense. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. The parody movie, although, I got to tell you, the Wayne's getting back in the mix with a scary movie. Yeah.

That's got me fucking pumped, though. I'm cautiously optimistic. I'm so, I cannot wait. The sinner scene, how long do you think that spit is going to be that comes out of her mouth? Oh. They're going to do such a long, I'm calling it. She's going to spit into his mouth with the weirdest, longest, looting you've ever seen. It's going to spit.

I feel like they already did that in a movie. That's why it's in my head. I feel like there was a spit gag. But yeah, when you give the Wayans back, scary movie, bro, I'm so pumped. Yeah, what are the things? It's like, they're going to have kids running around, like, in weapons. Oh, yeah. I is it it's also like so many big horror like like long legs they'll have long legs in

yeah it's been it's been so long that I'm like will they do get out or it'll be like that happened too long ago like maybe yeah who knows but I that that's gonna be fucking awesome yeah and I can't I haven't seen him uh I can't wait we are the biggest fucking wanes we are the biggest fucking Marlin guys in the world you know they're still in Form and ready to go. I feel like Marlins made like 18 other like horror spoof movies since he stopped with him. The ones that he was like, I'm doing them myself. One that was really, there was, it was really Annabelle heavy.

And I think he fucked Annabelle like twice. I think there's like two like getting your dick sucked by Annabelle jokes. That is the kind of thing where it's like you're like, I'm not going to wait for them to let me do my big one because I can't do an Annabelle thing in that way. It's like people will forget by Annabelle. Yeah. There's Annabelle texting him, pictures of her tits. Of course. He also did a fucking, what's this?

Paranormal, like. No, no, the one, the sex one, the like with Dakota Johnson. He did 50 shades of black, I believe. Which was a fucking banger. It's wild to me also like. In hindsight, all of these sound like they would be direct to DVD. I'm like, no, these all had theatrical releases. Oh, man, that sweet 4% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Golden. These are fucking bangers. The way I feel about Marlin. Is a guy named Michael Titties in them? Who's Michael Titties? He's got no character name. If you cast Michael Titties, you're like, you can just self-title. He's playing himself.

Michael motherfucking Titties, bro. Oh, it looks. Oh, Insects tuplets. Remember that? We watched that on my brother's bachelor party. He just did a one where he plays all six That no one's heard of I was about to say this is first time I'm seeing that in my life

We are I mean I'm telling you we're marling guys He was just he was like I got to do my clumps He's got I gotta do my clumps yeah great And he plays There's a fat sister I believe there's He's doing little man again There's a baby? They're running back little man

Great They're running back little man He does like I guess a red bone version of himself What year was this? I think it just said 2019. That's too late. No, dude, it's all. That one was direct to Netflix.

Molly Shannon. Glenn term. Okay. Cast is great on that one. Dude, it was fucking good. So Michael Tiddies, it looks like, is just, is a Marlin guy. Yeah. Looks like he shows up at all Marlin stuff.

He's directed them, it sounds like. Oh, fuck yeah, dude. I would love to sit down and have a long talk with him about. I mean, we literally. I remember this because it was my brother's bachelor party and we put on, I think we put on one Marlon Wayne's movie as a joke and everyone was kind of like, oh, this is fun, we'll smoke weed, we'll have it on the background and then like, we're like, all right, let's fire up sex tuplets

and like my brother's friends who were like not our guys were like, what? You're going to watch another Marlon Wayne's movie and we're like, hell yeah, dude. That is a moment where you are like, it's the kind of moment where you're like, oh, I thought this was a safe space to do that. And they're just like, whoa, we actually, we thought it was ironic and this is sincere. Yeah, well, they were, no, no, they didn't think it was ironic. They were, at first they were on board as like, oh, this will be funny. These guys are, you funny guys, they have good taste.

And so it was bad, obviously. It was just like, not good, but we just love, we love watching Marlon. We'll watch them do anything. And so they're like, oh, that wasn't so good. Let's do, watch something else. And we're like, no, we're watching sex tuplets, man. There is an entire kind of movie, though, like this that I think is, is made to be good in a group and I think people

think of it like that's an ironic watch and it's like no it is the kind of thing where like if you sit there watching it alone critically like you're gonna be like this sucks but the joy is like this sort of audacity that you're laughing with friends you're high a little bit you're just like that's fucking crazy that's insane it's like they have fun making it

and you have fun watching it in a group and that's like it's the symbiosis of it being like it's not good but it is it's enjoyable in certain scenarios no that's a great point that like we don't give comedies meant to purely entertain credit it's like they know this shit isn't the smartest jokes of all time yeah but they also know it's gonna fucking kill also is there any comedy in the history of the world that you are like i'm gonna sit down and watch alone at home and it's kills

it's like not really yeah i mean for me it's probably like yeah like i'll watch new episodes of comedies i like but the only thing i probably will throw i'll throw on 30 rock i'll throw on um eastbound and down probably but even then it's like more i mean we're talking about the best shows of all time sure yeah and that's even with tv i'm like is there a movie where it's like i'm gonna watch this alone in my house and it's like that's a good point probably the last i mean the last time the last time i did it with the comedy is probably knight at the roxbury because i loved it so much and i was like let me see if this holds up yeah brother it did i'm a i tried to get like a a screening.

I tried to do a screening of it at this film festival in Baltimore, but they couldn't get a film print of it. I'm sure it doesn't even... I'm sure they burned every film print. Yeah. At the Roxbury. But if someone can get me

35 millimeter night at the Roxbury print, I need it for my private collection. That was for real, like, a huge movie for me. I've still never seen it. It's pretty... I mean, it's funny, and it's also a funny artifact of, like, whoa, this is when they thought

Chris Katan was going to be the star in Welfare. was going to be the supporting actor. Oh, yeah. Like, it's kind of a hallucinatory experience because you're like, wait, Will Ferrell just goes away and we follow Chris Katan? This is fucking insane. And for that,

and then it's got like hilarious Richard Griko cameo, Dan Hedaya just also plays their dad. The dad in Clueless, they just get him to be the fucking dad. He's the man. Molly Shannon's very funny in it. And it's just, fuck, it's so stupid. I feel like it's probably like 74 minutes long or something crazy. Every S&L movie, they were just like, they're like, wrap this up.

Yeah. Yeah, they're like, this is barely a movie. Yeah. This should have been 20 minutes if we're being honest with ourselves. It's because it feels like they started as a sketch and it's like, make it a little longer. And it's like, we don't know what to do. This is all we got. We got 70 minutes for you.

You do that 40 times. You start with a two minutes sketch. You're like, plump it up a little. Yeah. And you just do that 40 times. And it's like, all right, I guess it's a fucking movie. Who fucking cares? Yeah.

But yeah, I made my father take me to see that in theaters literally Because I was such a fan of the sketch as a boy I hope they do the thing Did you have any like Like sort of cornerstone comedy movies or like You just just movies in general I mean the two big ones to me were Oceans 11 and hot rod Those are like

Dude Hot Rod's another one I saw in theaters God I wish I was introduced to it in college Just like some friends brought over a DVD and they were like This movie's awesome and I was like okay And I remember just watching it and like slowly smiling as if I was discovered. Just being like, this shit's pretty good. Dude, it's so good. Every time I watch it since then, it's like, it makes me laugh the same amount.

I show it to people and I'm like, this is, this is fucking, you can't do this. This is insane. Yeah. And it's one of those movies where if you break it down, it's like he never successfully does a jump. No. The plot is so bare bones. It's that he wants to beat up his day. It's all, it's like every level of it is so brilliant and funny and insane.

Yeah. No, I'm so with you. That movie was fuck. I would watch the director's commentary of that shit. That was actually the director's commentary when I learned how old those guys were. Because they were the lonely line guys. I used to follow them when they were on, you know, just off the internet. And in my head, I'm a kid, you know, I'm like in high school or whatever, I think, when it came out.

Maybe I was graduating. And then I was in college. And I'm like, well, I'm like, I guess I'll be famous in three years. You know, like that's what's going on in my head. Like, I'm crushing these open mics, barely doing okay. You know what I mean? But in my head, and then I hear you. the director's commentary and I think like Sandberg

in 2007 was like in his 30s or some shit yeah like probably like when he got when he got like look how look up how Andy Sandberg is um yeah look up Andy Sanberg age it's 47 now so yeah he's like 10 years older than me so he was like

um so yeah I don't I don't even know maybe it maybe maybe I got the DVD in college or whatever um or I guess he's 11 years old to me but either way he was like 30 yeah and when you're you're a fucking teenager, that's the oldest anyone ever is. You're like, I have to wait that long to make it.

I was like, I think he was also maybe on SNL at that time, but it is just like he had to work to get to that point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And then the movie wasn't a hit, so you're like, fuck, if that isn't even like it for him. Yeah, and he's, he's on SNL. That's the biggest thing in the world. Yeah, you're like, well, shit.

No, I was, because they just mentioned how old they were when they got to make the movie and I was like, fuck. Yeah. But they're, and yeah, exactly, they're on SNL. Same thing with like when I realized how old Mullaney was when he did his fucking half hour. He's like 24 or something.

I was like, what? Fuck. That's, it's all fucked. You only hear now of the ages that it's like miraculous that someone did a thing. Like everyone now being like PTA was 26 when he made boogie nights and it's like, yeah, everyone kind of did things when they were younger back then. It's hard to compare.

But now it's also like you hear about like a 22 year old that's starring in a Fox show and you're like, God damn it. I'm really fucking up. And it's like, no, you're not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's hard to not think that all the time. Sorry, man. You're not an incredibly, you're not one of a handful of people that was incredibly lucky and had incredible talent.

Yes, exactly. You know what I mean? Like big fucking deal. Yeah. You can't compare yourself to that. Sorry, you're not the son of Channing Tatum. Yeah, yeah. And luckily, you know, fuck, who gives.

It's nice being like old and mediocre and not really giving a fuck. Do you feel like at where you are in your career, you're like, I'm doing good. Oh, yeah. Dude, I passed every dream I had. Yeah. Like so. I just wanted to. Deadline shitty comedy clubs.

Yeah. I wanted to make $72,000 a year with no insurance and play Magubi's joke house and fucking every funny bone and every like, and it's been very surreal to be like, oh, fuck, what do I do now? Yeah. You know? You're like, I guess I'll do Bogonia. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Which I saw it, by the way. You saw it. Oh, fuck yeah, dude. It's where I'm really fucking excited for that. Yeah, I, yeah. Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying, though. It's like, shit like that has started happening where I'm like, what? I think there's something

It's like That stuff happens When you are not someone Who is trying so hard for it to happen Yeah true And I think the people who are like I gotta make this It sometimes just feels a little like

It's almost like Ah you want it too much Totally No there's definitely like a fat A classically trained fat actor He's gonna watch that movie And like shoot And take my

A picture of my head shut To like a gun range Yeah You know what I mean He's like This fucking guy Paul Walter Houser And he's like

Not me huh I'm coming PWH Your fucking rain is the fat guy in Hollywood's coming to a close, motherfucker. They're going to only be one at a time. Exactly. Exactly. No, there has to be a coup. There's got to be a fat actor coup.

I'm taking the top spot. But yeah, dude, it's fucking crazy. But, you know, it is interesting how things have gone because it's like, you know, I mean, same thing for you where it's like, you should do a bunch of shit. You get to do a bunch of, like, interesting. creative shit and that's what's that's what is fun about comedy right now is that yeah there's no like system that you thought was going to happen yeah but you get to do a bunch of different shit you know like yeah and i i have to keep reminding myself that like i'm so lucky to be doing what i'm doing what i'm doing what i thought i'd be doing or like oh i want to be doing this instead

and it's like people always ask me like well you've made it how do you get and i'm like i don't think i have but when everyone thinks you have you have to at least accept it a little it's like Like when people are asking you for advice For being like, how do I get there? And you're like, I don't know, I haven't made it. It's like you kind of. Yeah, you definitely have. When it's like, I mean, the first step is making a living from it.

Yes. Right? That's number one. That's really when you don't have to do other annoying shit. That's number one. Yeah. And then it's like, you know, uh, it's just like a different, it's a different like landscape than when we grew up where we were like, oh, I'll be on TV.

I'll have my own show. I'll fucking do whatever. But it's like so many people. interact with your shit. Yeah. And people, you also have no, the hard part is a little bit.

It's like, you don't really have any control of what people, how people look at your stuff, what they, what they even know you from? You know what I mean? You have no control.

Like, there are times now where people will just be like, oh my God, the guy I know from this thing also does this. I'm like, yeah, I've been around,

I've lived 30, yeah, I've lived for 33 years. Yeah, I've done other stuff. Guys can do more than one thing. Yeah. And it's like you just,

the way that people interact with you is never about you. It's about their perception of you. For sure, for sure. And you have to just kind of accept that and be like, all right, who gives a fuck? As long as I don't have to go to a fucking shitty office. Right.

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Did he survive? I won't tell. Did he survive the attempt at a backflip? What do we got, Big Eld? Hey, Stov, eldest, esteemed guests. I appreciate you taking the call. So I've had this issue with one of my buddies. We've been friends for, you know, maybe five years, something like that.

We've gotten pretty close over the five years. We both have long-term partners, long-term girlfriends. We both live with our girlfriends. And recently, like a couple months ago, my buddy came to me and told me that he cheated on his girlfriend. Now, he was kind of like bragging about it, which really turned me off from the dude. You know, just like shitty behavior that was, I don't know, kind of acceptable in our early 20s, but now we're, you know, in our 30s. um so that that kind of turned me away from the guy and then a couple months after that um his girlfriend called my girlfriend late at night came over crying and just kind of unloaded a bunch of stuff

about their relationship how he's kind of shitty to her and yeah all this stuff um so i guess my question is you know and since that night haven't spoken at all. Like we went from hanging out, you know, a couple times a month, maybe once or twice the week even to not speaking. It's been kind of weird after I told him that awesome story. Probably jealous. I'm sure he's busy or jealous. Yeah.

He'll get out of his system that hit me up to play Madden soon. Once or twice a week even to not speaking at all. And it's been about two months. My question is, do I just let that friendship down? die? Or is it my responsibility to be a good friend, step in, check in, kind of see what's going on with the dudes, see if there's a path to redemption? I don't know, kind of stumped here. Interesting. I appreciate any advice. And yeah, love the pod. Thanks. Did he say how long they'd been friends, Eldis, at the beginning?

He said about five years. So their friends for five years and their girlfriends know each other, through like so it's not like their friends through the girlfriends they've been no yeah they've been friends yeah that's what it seems like it the I feel like there's definitely an option between let the friendship die and like check in to check like how the friend is doing

because I feel like the ultimate thing is as soon as well as soon as it happens it's like you should have been you kind of want to go like oh I don't think I'm taking this in the way that you want me to yeah yeah it's like I don't think this is cool like oh okay yeah like cheating is one thing but like the idea of like bragging about being like pretty cool just feels like a bad read of your friend and also

of your own self right that's the thing it's like look is cheating on a partner a fucking like you got to excommunicate someone not necessarily context really matters yeah and like look like all sometimes you have to decide are your friend does it really your fucking business what your friend's relationship is sometimes it is right like if they're a close friend and they come to you and your life is like interconnected and you care about the partner and whatever. But look, I have friends who are not, I'm not very close with it.

It's like, I don't fucking even know what's going on with their relationships. And ultimately it's like if a friendship is like kind of tertiary or like, I'm not going to get involved on every fuck, everybody's fucking morality, whatever, whatever the fuck. But this guy thinks you're a scumbag. That's the crazy, like this guy came to you like, dude,

isn't this awesome we should go cheat like and almost like you like he was expecting you to be like hell yeah dude let's go cheat on our girlfriends together and it's like this doesn't seem like a guy who if you had this kind of reaction to him judging you this way

you guys are just not aligned at all here you know what I mean this is not a guy you want to be close with it's also it's like it's also that thing that women say where it's like men need to check their friends or it's like this is one of those scenarios where it's like if a guy comes to you just being like pretty cool huh like you your gut is to be like i don't want to rock the boat i don't want right but it's also you got to be like i don't know the least you got to do is be like i don't know

man i don't think no i don't love that yeah exactly exactly and it's like look that he might not give a fuck at all right he might just go be like all right well i'm going to go find cool guys to hang out with right at which point it's cited for you exactly not my friend but you're right it's like if this is something you feel strongly about and it's a close friend of yours you should be like look man it's not fucking cool to cheat on your girlfriend you know what i mean like and when she comes to you complaining about the relationship that's another moment where you should turn your friend to be like hey you really got to it's like she's like she's clearly unhappy like you've done this thing it's like there's no way for you to be impartial just like

oh who knows what's going it's like you know you know the score totally gotta be like dude you're fucking up let her go or fix this yeah i mean i think the element for me is that clearly their girlfriends are friends if she's coming over this seemed and you know he says they've been friends for five years we don't know how long their relationships are but we can assume they're pretty

serious relationships where it's like your lives are sort of intertwined in like a double date sort of friend group way so yeah I agree with you judging all this you should have been first like you probably care about his girlfriend where you're like it's

it's one thing if it's like you're like best friend comes to you with a confession about cheating on his like significant other who you're not as close with and he has like he's coming to you as a friend for like support like I fuck that how do I fix this what do I do and it's a completely different thing where this guy's comes looking for a pat on the back because he's fucking up not only his relationship but also probably your social life yeah like now you kind of have to lie to this girl you know this secret he's put you in a fucked up place

this feels more like you can blow up this friendship and you can even be like, hey man, this is why we're not friends anymore. Because, like, there is something to being like, it's not fucking cool to cheat and it's not cool for you to fucking put me in this position and you shouldn't, if you feel this way, you should fucking, you know, break up with her.

Also, don't you kind of want, like, don't you kind of want that from a friend? Like, a friend who's going to be honest that you and be like, this thing kind of sucks, as opposed to just, like, quietly being upset with you and you'd be like, what happened? And then later being like, well, it's this thing you did three months ago.

Like, oh, I didn't know. Oh, 100%. That's one of the nice things you would think about friendship. Is it like you could just be, that's what you want. Just be being honest. My best friends are the ones who will just be like, I think it's weird that you did this. I'm like, thank God. Thank God you said that.

That was fucked up, man. Yeah. And yeah, so I don't know. And again, we're not, you know, this show. We're not even prudes here. We're not even necessarily anti-cheating if I'm going to be completely honest with you. You know, like, it's not, I don't really. You're like, give me more the deets.

Like, but this situation in particular, It's like, we're probably much more, we're probably much more forgiving of cheating than an average advice show. But at this particular one, just sums, something's very off vibes-wise with this guy. It could be anything also, though. It's like, it's take away the aspect of cheating. And it's like, your friend did something that you are uncomfortable with. And it makes you see them a certain way. And that has created distance between you.

It's like, the answer is like, you got to talk about it. I don't like this. That's a great point. That's a general rule of advice. address it and either it will be too big a gulf for you guys to get across or you figure it out and you move forward

and you're actually better friends. Watch our next piece of advice be like, dude, don't tell her anything. Don't tell you're, don't snitch. Bro code, brother. In fact, when she comes up with problems, you say, that's not true. He treats you great. I see it.

Gaslight her for him. No, don't. Someone was hidden on him the other day and he was like, I couldn't possibly. We were getting wings at the bar last Thursday. What are you talking about? It was wing night with the guys. He wasn't out there. Apple's tracking must be fucked up.

I heard with the new, you know, the new phones and the aluminum, all the systems gone fucking crazy. You should go to the Apple store. Here's a gift card. Get yourself some AirPods. Imagine working at a genius bar and it's like, yeah, I just, my boyfriend's been seeing at this spot and it's clearly not there.

And you're just like, um, What do I do here? Okay. Oh, okay. We'll reboot your phone, ma'am. What else we got? Hey, Bobby. Love the show.

I have a question, and it's probably a pretty classic one. But my boyfriend has family things, obligations, birthday parties, meetups with his family, probably twice a week. Or not twice a week. Sorry, twice a month. And they're nice people, and I don't mind to go. sometimes, but I don't particularly hang out with my own family that much, and I don't attend every single birthday party. We don't gather quite as much as they do, and I think that that's

great, but do I have to attend every single one of these things? I feel like I get gilded into it and made to feel like a bad person for just wanting to skip every once in a while. I don't skip the big things, but I just feel like sometimes I'm obligated to go to these, like, little kid birthday parties, and I don't go to some of my own families. Like, my family just doesn't do that. So maybe I'm a dick. I don't know. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks.

Bye. I wish I could ask them who's guilting them, because I'm like, if it's your boyfriend, that sucks. Right. It doesn't matter. If it's the family, it's like that also, that doesn't matter. Yeah, I mean, I think this. could be some classic like American person dating

and ethnic person. This to me feels like, because this reminds me of what we were talking about, like growing up in like even though we didn't have a big extended family like it was always someone's fucking birthday from church. It was always, there was always a thing to go to. And to be honest to you

I, my default is I think that sounds kind of nice. It does. Yeah. Like even though now maybe I'm a hypocrite because I have moved four hours from my family. family and I don't see and it's like maybe I'm being kind of like oh come on that's nice it's community and it's like if I had to do this maybe I'd be going fucking crazy myself I think it's the thing of having to do it more than like getting to like when you get to opt into those things

be like oh I'd love to see my cousins oh yeah I got this thing for him like that's fun but when it feels like a thing it's like fuck I can't miss that it does start to feel like and I I get it but it's also like who's who's gilding her it's probably no one in particular right it's and probably overall people don't really give a fuck but like every one person will say something every time she skips it and it just feels like the collective is guilting her um if it's if that is the case i'm like you kind of just got to accept that that's like a comment they'll make and it doesn't mean anything and if it does feel like it means something then it's just sort of like accept like that's part and parcel of the relationship right but you you deserve to not have

to do those things i like i don't think you're a bad person for not wanting to If anything, I would be like, you're going to hate me more if I show up to all these things, and I feel like I have a bad attitude. I'm pissed. And also, it's like, do you have reasons not to go? You know what I mean? Like, because you could have shit where it's like, oh, you know, you're busy or you have your own thing. You know, you have your own thing to do.

And, like, you also with these things, you just kind of need a general excuse. It doesn't even have to be, like, airtight. No. And I know what you're saying, I shouldn't even have to worry about this. If I just would rather be at my house than fucking. eat shitty pizza and watch my fat nephew on a bouncy house that you shouldn't have to admit you shouldn't not even her nephew is the yeah yeah yeah your nephew in law or whatever the fuck yeah is it her husband or boyfriend boyfriend oh boyfriend that's another thing this is a boy if it's a husband i understand

a little more of it being like the family's just like you're committed you're in this family why not but that is the thing here if it's a boyfriend it seems to be getting serious enough where you're expected to go to these things certain families come with certain bullshit, right? Like, you might marry into a fucking run a 5K on Thanksgiving fan. My greatest nightmare, the family that does a fucking turkey trot. If I married into a family like that and they were upset that I wasn't doing the 5K, I'm like, I don't care.

I'm supporting you so much. I'll be the finish line. You're not making me do that. Still, though, because you're marrying into that family, you're going to end up running more 5Ks on Thanksgiving than you ever would have other ones. 100%. And if you marry into this family, you're going to end up. going to more annoying little kid

birthday parties than you ever would have otherwise. And so some of this is like the some of this is like you have to decide. I mean if this just might be how his family roles and you might have to know that you give into certain

things and maybe and compromises usually where shit like this lands where you're not going to get to go you're going to have to go to more than you want but you're going to and you're going to miss more than his family wants you to And sort of nobody's happy, but I do think when you enter, when you're looking at being serious into like a family, it is important to at least sort of maintain like the traditions, like the cultures and traditions. Because you don't want to be like, you know, if it's really important, you just have to take that into consideration, like, okay, I have to do this bullshit.

I feel like she can, she probably hasn't even like told him this shit. He just assumes like, oh, yeah, family thing. You'll come. well yeah we'll get some food blah blah blah it'll be great it's like when when i started like you know when i was dating like my wife years ago i like there's kind of tongue in cheek but i just started she would be like oh this nephew is having a birthday thing or these friends are doing like a brunch and i just straight up have been like for years been like am i on the hook it's like just ask what you're on the hook for also like a good closeness to have with someone you're dating

being like let's be honest like be honest with me right do I have to do this that's a good point I'll go I'll go if you want me to but like you know is this one like important yeah put it on my gonna be like the only guy there and a bunch of little kids or some shit or like are the other boyfriends husbands whatever that's huge also yeah it's just like I'm the only one that's not in this family at this engagement it's like then what the fuck am I going to totally totally no that's a good point eldest is like yeah let's let's open up some dialogue. He might not even give a fuck if you go. We don't know.

We don't have all the info. But that's really good. It's just be like, hey, I'm not going to all these fucking kids' birthday parties. So let's pick the ones I, let me know the ones I absolutely need to go to. And different families have, you know, and she says, I don't skip the big stuff. It's just and look, hopefully

this is also, little kid parties do change, right? Like, at a certain point, the kid's fucking 12, you're not going to a fucking, you're not going to a 14-year-old's birthday party. Like, yeah, right now, this might just be a really annoying next few years for you. Because this is only really an issue from ages zero to, like, fucking five. But it's also like how many nephews are in their family.

True. You're right. And it might be a renewable resource of new children. Absolutely. Yeah. The nephews have nephews. My mom, sometimes she'll call me and I'll just be like, where are you? She's like, oh, I'm in London.

Your cousin's brother's girlfriend is graduating. And I'm like, why did you? it's like, what's their name? Why are you there? You flew there for that? Okay. And I'm always like, thank God I don't have to. But I do feel like older generations of immigrant families are like, I'm going to

as many as I can. And ultimately, like, sometimes they're like, oh, it would be nice if he showed up. But they just kind of want, it's like the people in the family, there's like, well, if you're part of this family, like, check in every once in a while. It's not, how dare you not come to everyone? Yeah. Yeah. But I get the feeling that that's in a position.

Yeah. I see, I really do see both sides because I do. think it's nice when a family sees each other that often, but I also, like I said, moved away from my family the second I fucking financially could. So I don't want to be a fucking hypocrite here. Eldie, what else? Little

motherfucker? Hey, Stav. Eldis, esteemed guest. I'm 25 with my girlfriend here for five years.

Um, coming up on six here and decided I want to propose here in a few months. Um, and the issue really is, uh, I just since I started telling people I'm going to propose, uh, started like making it real, like, like really looking at rings and stuff. And like, I think I finally found the one I want. Like, I've been, I don't know, just, I find myself like looking at other girls more. And I guess just like, in general, kind of. like having these like weird random thoughts where it's like I don't know is this really what I want I don't know I know I love her but like I don't know it's just I can't help a feel for contract

she's like pretty much the only girl I've ever been with um pretty much huh at least like this seriously um and like obviously we met when we were really young like we were both 19 yeah um and met like first freshman year of college um and been together since and so I don't know I'm also like surrounded um in my work there's a like it's very female dominated and there's a lot of very attractive women so i feel like that might not help um anyways just some general advice for a guy who is like really still committed to my girlfriend obviously but is it obvious just having these you know kind of cold feet stressing out feelings anyway thank you that's really funny Like, there's a lot of hot women in my office, so that doesn't...

It's like, there's a bunch of hot women I also shouldn't fuck on top of cheating. It would be weird to fuck. It's like, in my office, my job. It's like, having said that, I don't know that this is that crazy. I think this is a feeling that a lot of people have once they get into committed relationships. Because I think everyone has this idea that, like, once you find the one, there's no one else. And it's like, no, there are beautiful people everywhere all of the time. That's not what it's about.

it's about being like wow the person's beautiful and yet it's like it's the same thing as like when people are like women and men can't be friends and it's like well that's only if you think every time you see a beautiful person you're like if i don't fuck them i'm gonna die and it's like no you can have feelings for a person just be like but no yeah yeah totally and that's that's a really great point like you're not once you get once you commit to someone you're not saying like well I'll never see someone I'd like to fuck on an animal level yeah like ever ever again in my life. No, you're going to keep seeing that. You're choosing to commit to someone because your relationship is more important than that. Now, does this set up go against a lot of

my gut reaction for success in marriage? Met when you're 19, you're kind of a dumbass, even though we love you. You're, you know, just the way you're describing this is you're simpleton. You know what I mean? Like, you're having these cold feet. you're 25 to play devil's advocate it's like you know are you too young or whatever maybe but also the answer is just do you want to fucking do this for real yeah are you doing this because you feel some kind of pressure are you doing this like you know why do you want to commit and and if you really do if you really search your thoughts and all that's give you're just kind of like worried about these feelings no man everybody wants to everybody still stays attracted to people

it's just you've decided you're marrying this person and also to sort of you know go back to the original argument it's like yeah okay you met kind of young but you're not that young now you're in your mid-20s you're at a completely reasonable age to grow into you know to get married to somebody um so you know it's really just I wouldn't worry too much if you're just like fuck

you're basically just having to like wait I'm really never gonna fuck another woman thought that's basically what this is right yeah That you're having a hard time with that. If that's all it is, right? If you're just, then I think you're fine. Yeah. But if there's more stuff and you're not being honest with yourself and you're just, you know,

proposing because you think you need to, but you're not really sure, then, you know, there's hopefully still time. I don't know. This call might be from fucking three months ago and it's coming out in a month. So maybe you're fucked. I don't know. This also, this is something I have to remind myself. Because I've been in scenarios where I feel this where it's like I've been dating this person for a while, but I'm right go there's all this

it's like there's a hubris to men where she's like I see these beautiful women obviously they're all options and it's like all right man right right yeah how am I gonna stop from fucking yeah yeah I think Sam Sam Rill had a great joke where he was like

something about where he was like he's in a committed relationship it's like you know sat down next to a beautiful woman on the plane and didn't even look at me so didn't cheat that you know Like, we dodged a bullet there, boys. I didn't have to cheat because you didn't even have any interest in me whatsoever. Right.

But, yeah, that is a good point. I think there's also, like, and this is the, like, living in a big city, knowing these kinds of people sort of feeling that I now have with stuff like this, where it's sort of like, I think if you talk to your partner at a certain point, you, like, you can talk about this kind of thing, just be like, these are the reservations I have. And it's like, it's not, like, necessarily needing to approach, like, polyamory anything, but, like, just communicating.

that kind of thing sometimes makes the feeling go away and sometimes makes it where it's like well you both understand it that's how attraction works and also maybe you're like she's having the same feeling and you're like let's take a year apart and then like in that year you'll be like actually she's the only one I want yeah and then she's already you know she's she's like in a she's got a harem of sexy guys right fucked now now you know you spend the rest of your life being like I was fucking stupid and you're like well I'm take me back I've been talking a lot to Trisha at work yeah yeah your own suspension at work Oh, fuck.

You got something else for us, little eldest? Hey, Savi, Eldi, the esteemed guest. I called earlier, but dogs were barking, and I didn't leave a lot of deed, though. Okay. So I've been getting a little bit more politically involved here recently and, you know, go to protest and stuff like that. Nice. And it's called a lot of pressure.

Yeah. Depending on which protests you're going to. Keep going. Causing a lot of friction between, you know, the people I know. Like my family and some of my friends are like really nagga. So like the point, it's not really like a healthy debate. It's them screaming as hard as they can over me. And it's gotten to one.

I don't even talk these people. Like a good friend of mine, he tried to convince me to join ICE. Oh, Jesus Christ. And it did not go well. I haven't talked them since. Oh, my God, dude. That makes me sick. You know I'm playing the situation?

Join ice? That's not even like, oh, we need to get our immigration under control. He's like, let's join us. Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's a left, yeah, I mean. I mean, signing up to be a fucking storm trooper is what your friend wants to do. It's, anyone who joins ice is a piece of shit.

Absolutely. I mean, there's no way around that. Yeah. Like, and what they're fucking doing now where they're like, hey, we're, uh, salary start at 50,000 and we, you know, we're forgiving debt for joining ice. Yeah. It's like, do that for fucking teachers, you fucking pieces of shit. And also.

And society will be better. 50,000? Or what, it's some kind of, yeah, I know. But I just mean, like, the number you would have to, it's like, if you're going to be, like, sign up to do the fucking devil's work, it's like, start at 250 fucking K. All debt's cleared. Yeah. I have, like, diplomatic immunity.

I know. But even then, it's like, yeah, like, absolutely not. It's also, this, sorry, I know we gotta finish the first now. No, no, no, please. The idea of like, we should join ICE. I'm like, that is a pivot from whatever you're, it's like, unless your life is we're doing nothing all the time. It's like, quit your job and join ICE. That's crazy.

Sorry, continue. Insane, but yeah, go ahead. I already have my answer for whatever this is going to be, but continue, please. Oh, like, how I should be handling the situation. Am I doing it wrong by just, like, outing these people, just like not talking to them anymore? because it's not just like uncomfortable it's like demeaning so am I being a little bitch about it

or should I really just cut these people out I don't know because it's super fucking uncomfortable anyway well thank you you have a good one love the show and bye I mean this is a you know obviously this is an issue that a lot of people are going through and have gone I mean it feels worse now but it's also been an issue that's like every generation there's things that that are sort of like breaking points where

people can't you just have to have your line and I think in general I do believe in general that you can get along with most people and that I think a lot of the time the biggest issue right now is how crazy the fucking political rhetoric has gotten I think like you know Trump I mean literally as soon as Trump Trump was like smart politically to heighten everything because he knows it's all fucking entertainment but that's one thing when it's a fucking reality show but when you're the actual fucking president

and you're talking about you know taking out your enemies and doing all this other shit there becomes like a culture of like real violence that like has really spread in a fucked up way and there's been incredible there's like there's shit that's like and I think when we're talking about ice

like it's one thing to be like we can disagree and it's like yes we can but not when you want want to join a fucking masked like fucking Nazi organization like people that are literally and it's like this isn't even this isn't even hyperbole at this point where they are they are a fascist organization where they are disappearing people with no due process it's like a fundamental American thing right like this is shit that if you are gleefully participating in or supporting it to me that is a deal but that's where I'm like I don't know

know that I can fucking now if it's your friend who you think is just parroting dumbass talking points and you feel like you can have a real like hey don't these fucking people deserve basic dignity and even if you agree with them politically don't you think we should keep fucking rule of law and we should keep uh you know like we said your day in court like very basic american shit may you know maybe you can have a conversation and i think it's important to try and be civil with people and not automatically think you know, because you disagree with everything that you couldn't get along? Because I do think as trite as it is, if we were off the internet and we didn't, you know,

all this shit is so divisive, when you see regular people that you don't even necessarily agree with, you agree with 90% of shit. Right. You know what I mean? And I think most people right now are, there's anger because of how fucked our, you know, the economic system is really. Everyone's just looking for someone to blame. Exactly.

And the easy thing, if you're, the easy thing, a tried and true thing is blame the other person. right blame immigrants blame gay people you don't understand like blame whatever the fuck and at the end of the day it's like if you feel like you can empathize with the anger these people have because their lives have been completely fucked up and point them in the direction of what's actually doing it and you think there might be a solution that it's okay but if people have really dug their heels in and you know you have to know when there's a time for you to be like this this relationship is not going to get me anything when it becomes demeaning and people are shouting you down it does feel a little like this is work that I'm doing where the end result

it's never going to be it's like they they've dug their heels in so much that just feels a little like yeah maybe take a break from that relationship but it does suck to just feel like where did this happen when it's a good friend it's just like how did this radicalization happen and in such an invisible way that you are now on the support of let's join ice totally dude it's also like Ice has been around for a while, but it's like, was there a point at which you guys talked about stuff and it felt like they're on my side and then like silently they somehow switched? That's the thing that I always don't get in scenarios like this where it is just like people are like and they're good friends of mine. I'm like, when did this happen that you didn't notice or like was it all overnight? Was it just you never really talked about politics?

Because that feels that feels like such a pivot that it does feel like either this is something they just picked up overnight and they're like, I've decided this and you can easily be like, no, sorry, that's dumb. Yeah, but, well, I mean, I definitely think it's probably just, I mean, ICE has become this, like, cultural, uh, touchstone for, like, a lot of Trump's, like, they just, they see it as, like, being in, in fucking Trump's personal army. Yeah. Like, it's become this thing where it's, like, a badge of honor to be like, we're going to make this country. I get to be racist. I get to fucking, I get to actually, you know, a lot of presidential candidates talk about being racist, but he's going to give me a badge and let me be racist for him. You know what I mean? I mean, like.

It's anybody. And I think, yeah, it's, everything's just heightened in a way that's fucking scary. And legitimately, some of these jobs are probably how, that's how fucked up our economy is where it's like, for some people, they're like, okay. It's like joining the military. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, absolutely. Exactly. Here's my thing.

If, if, to their friend would just be like, would you join the police? Like at any point in history. And it's like, if the rent's like, I don't want to do that. Oh, 100% by the way. Then why, like, ice being way worse. Like, this guy would love to join the police. But it's the kind of thing where I'm like, why hasn't it? Yeah, yeah.

Well, because the, probably because it's too fucking hard. Yeah. It's a lot easier to join. Like, that's the other thing is that they're just taking a lot of guys that probably couldn't have been in the police. Yeah. Which is fucking scary to think about. Guys that couldn't cut the fucking police exam are now like, all right, man.

Here's a fucking shi-stie. Here's a shi-stie. Go fucking grab any brown person and we'll figure it out later. So anyway, dude, good luck. It is a classic thing. And it does feel like things are even more politicized in a way. But if you can try and have positive discussions and if they come to the point where, like you said, it feels like it's demeaning and it's a, then you're fine to cut these people off. Yeah, I think I spend too much time on the internet because I'm just like, don't just leave.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or it's like, just cut it. Who gives a fuck? I know what I mean in some. And don't get me wrong. Plenty of times that will be the answer. But like a big thing we like to say is like you got to give people the chance. to fail.

Absolutely. Yeah. So it's like, and a lot of times it's like, and you know, we're pretty inspired by Zoron's campaign where that motherfucker's a smiley ass, nice guy who will talk to people who fucking hate him and try and make his point. And will it work on 90% of them? No, but it might work on 10%. And I do think we do need a little of that because a lot of these motherfuckers have just been, there's just anger at how bad the world is.

And unfortunately, nobody is offering them anything. coherent outside of hate. Yeah. And like maybe you could be a person who's like, no, man, it's not left or right. It's literally up and down. And it's fucking, it's the ultra wealthy that are doing this and your quality of life, you deserve more. But it's not immigrants or fucking trans people that are taking it from you.

It's your fucking bosses and your bosses, bosses. There's also this thing right now where it's like hate is the only thing that is culturally beneficial in times where people have nothing. It's like, if you're in a. room and everyone's talking about something everyone's just like yeah i liked it or it's fine the one person who's like i hate it feels like a little like ooh now you explain that's like they're the voice of yeah yeah yeah just because it's like it's such a stronger feeling to hate something that is to just sort of feel like i feel no way about right right so they get power just by having a voice and

like speaking passionately about like this is the problem from a false place of authority and that happens in so many things and i'm always just like oh these people are like talking about this movie in a way we're like everyone's really fucking stupid about this movie because it's like people start around like, oh, I guess we don't like this movie. Oh, you're guaranteed. What do you need to be that guy? Yeah. When something's awesome, like I can't wait for, someone's going to be the first one battle

after another contrarian. It's happened. You know what I mean? Like, you're going to get, and that's fine. It doesn't matter. Like, that movie fucking rules, but it's like, but you're right. No matter with sinners, there's always someone who's like, this shit sucks. They'll just pick a movie that's awesome or any cultural thing that's awesome.

And you do get attention by being like this thing sucks. Yes. I mean, that's how Trump became, it's like, 100%. Yeah, just being a person who's like, I'm going to say the insane things that no one is, it's like, that's, you get attention. And then everyone's like, did you see this thing? We all got to share this. Maybe we should all be fucking crazy too.

This is fucking awesome. 100%. Let's play another one, LD, and then, uh, let's begin to wrap it up here, but. Hi, Stavi. Um, I was wondering in dating. Like, what is the line between kind of being yourself? and, you know, not, like, coming on too strong or, like, revealing, I know, too much. Sure.

I like to talk to people weird and just say a lot of strange shit. And I want to make sure that, you know, they can keep up with it and, like, be funny with me. but sometimes I worry that like if I'm just like too strange um like right away that it's just gonna be a bit overwhelming um so I don't know like how to how to balance that um I'm also like I'm a pretty open person I have I have a hard time maybe not oh um So kind of how to, like, reel it in without, like, sacrificing who I am. Okay. All right.

I'm going to say you sound annoying. Just off the top. It's like... I disagree. But I also think my take on this is a controversial one, but you go ahead. No, no. But, okay. Annoying in that, like, if your problem is, like, I just can't stop.

And by the way, I say this because I'm someone who has a hard time. If I don't like someone who has a hard time, if I don't like someone. It's coming out, no matter what the, no matter what the, like, social ramifications are or, like, and also be, anytime you ever be like, how do I reel myself in? It's like, yeah, I mean, I do think that there is a little reeling in that happens in polite society. Yeah. And on first couple dates, it's like, you know, are you yourself at a fucking interview? Right, yeah. Like, that's the thing.

It's like, there is, and true intimacy is letting somebody in on your, you know, you're, you know, on your weird shit over time as you grow as you grow like you know I think there is something to being a you know being the sort of accessible version of yourself

being the like blockbuster Marvel movie version of yourself before you're the art house sort of like oh there's no real plot oh this third act was just fucking weird or whatever like vibes based yeah being vibes based it's like you know don't we all have

good and bad in us, right? And I'm not even saying your personality is bad. I'm busting your balls by saying you're annoying. But, but like, I just think in general, it ain't bad to be 80 per, like, just like, if you got some shit that's particularly, you know, just to like not full, you don't have to fully be yourself immediately, right? Even though I would, you know, if you're confident enough, there's one, you know, we can get there.

But I see it as a like, let's leave a little something to show, to. to, because you do want the person you're worth of the person you're dating to get fully who you are and I don't know that you need that at all times. Sure.

Is my philosophical idea and it seems like she's only asking if this has become a problem. You know what I mean? Like if she's asking us this question, people have been like, all right, that was fucking, you know, what the fuck was that about?

Yeah, I'm a little like, what do you mean by it? Like, what give examples? I was like, I like to put my gun out at bowling. It's my thing. Yeah, don't. No, no. Don't,

Lobowski. My thing here is, and this is a feeling I have about dating where it's like, my big problem with dating is that everybody has their own rules and no one wants to share them. So it's sort of thing was that people go on to dates and it's like, well, if a guy does this, or like, I don't like when a girl, and it's like all these things that they take in and you feel like you have to read each other's minds. And I think it's insane. And I think the best way to date, the only, the times I've ever had, like, the best date has

always been like, be fucking cool. crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's also like you get to be yourself. You don't feel like you're performing. And also, if you find someone who vibes with that, it feels so good. And the times I'm most attracted to anyone I'm dating is when I'm like, you're a little weird.

I'm like, I kind of like, we're vulnerable. Like, this date's going to go for a while because I'm like, what is that? Why are you doing that? Or like, what do you mean by it? It's just, it's so fun to not feel like you're performing for this other person. And then having to be like, do I want to go on a second date to figure out more? Do I want to go on the third date to finally figure out the questions I had on the first date?

But I also think that's the thing that you can only do when it's like, you're so comfortable with being weird that you're like, I don't care if they didn't like that, I had a good, yeah. Well, that's the thing. I think the ideal that people would like to get to is to fully be yourself in all situations. I just think that's a very hard thing to do in practice.

Of course, yeah. And so, and like, and I'm with, I think that strategy is high risk, high reward. Yeah. Where it's like, if you hit it off with someone when you really feel like you're being yourself. And I, again, What does that even mean?

Because I'm not convinced that isn't a little performative. Sure, yeah. They're being like, I'm fucking crazy. It's like, are you? Or, you know what I mean? Like, what is it so nuts about you? Right. And like, are you overdoing it to be,

because you identify as a weird person or a crazy person? It's like, as long as what you're doing is not, I would just say it doesn't have to be performative. And I would even say sometimes being the like subdued version of yourself, you know, is that a little, is that a little bit of a performance? sure, but I think you're, it is kind of realistic where it's like, you know, you just don't, you don't hit everyone with, you know, you don't go guns blazing right away. Right.

If, especially if she's asking the question, right? If it has become a problem in your life, then it's like maybe try and figure, yeah, figure out what the balance is. But you also don't want it to be like, don't perform at any level where at some point you'll have to be like, okay, we're five dates in surprise. I'm not Irish. Yeah. I'm not Irish and it's like, I know, you are, you are a dark-skinned black man with an American accent.

I was lying this whole time. It pronounced Guinness wrong. Yeah, I don't know. It's like, I just would, I actually would like to know what she's been doing. It's so wild. So many of these questions, I'm just like, tell me a little, like, explain that a little bit more. Of course, that's most of this fucking show, to be honest with you. You got a nice one for us to go out on here, Little Elders?

Yeah, this is from a caller who has a bone to pick with how hard you ragged on him. Oh, interesting. It was from the Julio and Ricky episode, the guy who called in who said his girlfriend was mad because she saw his Instagram feed. And it was like all chicks showing ass. He even mentioned like, he was like, sometimes it might be like a sexy cartoon or something. Yeah, the cartoon, I remember. That's fucking wild So

And we just called him a loser Basically Yeah, he's just responding Follow up call I'll just sender you screen these So if it doesn't make the pot again Then it is what it is But thank you for having my back

Stop bruce What the hell man My girlfriend was on my ass About lust and obscenity On my Instagram real Oh I remember this Dude you got on my ass

About the cartoon I was trying to be I was being vulnerable, and I got ripped apart. You were talking about all these John Moran, Dunkin' Highlights. Yeah, I get those two. I'm a fan of Pokemon. There's some Pokemon trainers that were badass in the game.

That alone got my ass out water from my girlfriend. Still together, by the way. So your advice did help. We met a middle ground. I appreciate y'all's expertise. But, Jesus, I got torn apart like I'm some sort of cartoon creeper banking it to... You were getting horny to cartoons.

cartoons. You were. For comedy's sake, but golly, I should have added some more contact. Love you guys. Do you think this helps?

You think the fact you felt the need to call back and be like, stop saying I jack off the cartoons. I just, they were just badass. The Pokemon.

They're really cool. I respected their ability as Pokemon trainers. Yeah. I thought it was powerful how she could walk with tits like that. Yeah.

I mean, what do you? I didn't, I didn't think about fucking Misty. Well, the fucking star-shaped one shot a jet of water up my ass. I wish I knew. What was Licky Tung?

Licky Tung ate my ass while Misty sucked me off. I wasn't jacking off to that idea. You're, why did you make fun of me for that? Here's my thing about like cartoon, like cartoon porn and stuff like that. I'm like, own it. And I'm not saying that like, you should be proud. But I'm just like, I think it's a kind of thing where it's like having shame about. some of these things feels like a self-defeating

where it's like I have to hide it so now I'm liking these things and it's just it's like it becomes this weight and I'm like I think you can just be like yes I think this is hot and it's like to your girlfriend it's like that is not going to be something where she's like well my insecurity here is you want Misty and not me yeah yeah yeah you can just be like I think this is

hot it's completely separate from you right right but in general like the other stuff I'm like I don't I don't that is yeah listen man don't yeah why did you call only being mad about the fucking cartoons You know what I mean? You were horny about other stuff

We made funny for being horny about that too So yeah, own it if you want If your dick gets hard at cartoons Nothing wrong with that Now, and now Does that mean we're not going to make fun of you? No, it doesn't mean that I don't think you should call into this show

If you're like, I got a serious thing I want to say about these cartoons That I'm sexy To make my dick hard Don't make fun of me about it Come on, dude. What are you talking about here? And we're not even guys

you haven't looked at cartoons with their tits out everyone's going to take a game it's just but it is whether or not the fact that it's on your Instagram is kind of hilarious that that made into his algorithm what I will say is like Instagram algorithm I'm like there's a little bit of your input there

100% in general on the internet it's like whether or not you're trying to see that shit you will for sure but the fact that it's on your Instagram algorithm I'm like except that there's a little bit of like either you are liking Pokemon in general a lot and it's just sort of like well you like Pokemon you like these beautiful women you like this

or whatnot. But I also think it's like, I think there is, this is advice that I also need to take myself where it's like, there is a thing about sexuality within relationships that people get like in trouble just being like, I saw this beautiful woman and I liked it.

And it's like this thing where like their partners are like, is that what you secretly want and not me? Am I compare myself to that? And you are secretly being like, well, I like this thing also. And I like my girlfriend too, but I also am like horny and I should feel shame about it. And I'm like,

I think if you, if everyone was just sort of like, this thing is hot to me also It doesn't feel like this thing that you are You were like hiding in shame As opposed to just being like I just have to not think about it at all It just feels a little like

It's just gonna make it worse Yeah look this is hot to me I have Marge's clothes You want to put on Marge's green dress And the pearls Great you want to put on the big blue wig Great if not no big deal Yeah that's fine

You're out of town I'm gonna call up a hotline And have a girl Oh hold me But I'm thinking of you I'm thinking of you Yeah You don't want to do the voice.

That's great. I'm giving you first rights or refusal. You don't want to take the voice acting lessons I set up. That's fine. That's on you. You don't want to get the surgery to permanently make your skin yellow. That's fine. You don't want to let me wear the glasses that make your skin yellow.

It might be fine. Whatever. But yeah, man. Sorry, we're obviously going to make fun of you for that. But good luck. You know, good luck. And by the way, your girlfriend also, we made fun of her for talking about lust. Because there was tits on your fucking.

Instagram. It's very Catholic Code. Totally. Super religious. Lust and obscenity. Lust is so funny to hear from your girlfriend, not like your grandmother. Anyway, good luck. Keep beating off to those cartoons and we'll talk to the next time. Demi, thanks so

much. Thank you for having me. Yeah. Go watch the special on dropout either now or soon. Yeah, at some point in the past, present, or future. Right, right, exactly. It exists in time. Maybe. At some point in comparison to when you're listening to this right now. We will be on the road, too.

We're actually probably on the road right now. We'll put the fuck. And you'll know about it. Who cares? I'll see you next week. Bye, bye, bye, guys.