Stavvy's World - #57 - Yannis Pappas

Episode Date: January 1, 2024

Yannis Pappas joins the pod to ring in the new year, talk about the similarities and differences between Greeks and Arabs, holding onto your culture as an immigrant in the US, and much more. Yannis and Stav help callers including an Egyptian man who's struggling to decide between love and preserving his heritage, and a man who wants to get his daughter back after a 70-month bid in jail. Follow Yannis Pappas on social media: https://www.yannispappascomedy.com/ https://twitter.com/yannispappas https://www.instagram.com/yannispappas/ https://www.patreon.com/yannispappashour/ https://www.facebook.com/yannispappascomedian/ https://www.youtube.com/@Yannispappascomedian Unlock exclusive, Patreon-only episodes at https://www.patreon.com/stavvysworld Wanna be part of the show? Call 904-800-STAV and leave a voicemail to get advice!

Oh, Bob! Wow! Welcome everybody to Stavis World! Hey! Who should have gotten some plates? Welcome everybody! 9-0-400-STav calling a beautiful new year, a beautiful 2020-40-U, and we had to ring in the new year of Stavfish World with the one and only Janis Papas.

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Mishmash yeah, where everybody's just, if they're like three generations, it's all just kind of like anywhere from like beige to like kinda dark tan. You know what I mean? You're gonna have to see his wife to determine his life. That's true, that's true. That's true. It's wrapped up.

Yeah, Pakistani. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause he started up in the, yeah. He seems a little Americanized whatever it is, or she might not even, you're right, we should figure this out. She's wearing a Air Max 95's Dominican. Yeah, yeah. You gotta see the wife.

I know. And if you haven't seen the wife, probably back as Danny. Okay, all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not allowed. Yeah, he has to handle all the business. I don't know, that's not my feeling.

I feel like she's kind of the, she, it feels like she's pulling the strings. Okay, then she's, then she's Greek. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because we pretend to be a patriarchy, but it's really the mother's.

They did, yeah. It's a, it's a, it's a culture that like puts on a peer, a big on putting on appearances. Yes. You know, it's like the man is, honestly, the head of the Greek household, the man is the weakest member of the house Yes, the father is by far if you if somebody comes out and there's an intruder

Take the little kid over the dead. Yes Yeah, you know, it's just we've everywhere like for this pod you put on that beautiful What is that Sergio Cicini Sergio Cicini got the thing? But if your mom came in and said I'm gonna she like yeah Absolutely off and put it on you. Yeah, yeah Yes, very good point my country man. That is true But before we really get going, Janice

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What if the priest comes here? There's a version of this podcast where it happens where my mom is living next to the next to the, you know, and maybe 15 years things go a certain way for me and Eldis. You know, he's living next, we're back in Greek town, we have townhouses next to each other. My mom and in between is my mom's house. Eldis is here, my mom's here, I'm here. We have the studio upstairs in my mom

because she can't go upstairs anymore, right? But as everyone's watching, it gets like a wheelchair lift, just to scold us for our language, for being too vulgar, which comes up with a big tray of fucking baklava and everybody you're living on the street that is now named you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They change one name there. That's true. I think I'm angling for one block in Greek town, Maryland. They can be Stavros Halkius Way. The 700 block of Pongastreet, I am angling for that. That's a good, you know what, let's put that on the 24 Vision Board. We need to get the 700 block,

Stavros Halk is way, and it'll piss, because we grew up across the street from our church had like a big, like, you know, they have the festival there every year, like kind of a, almost like a courtyard, but like the church is two blocks that way,

but they, I guess they got a big plot of land across the street from my family's house. So all the Greek, you know how fucking, you know how like combat, every Greek mom is like talking about how much better and smarter their kid is. All the old Greek ladies that didn't fuck with me because I was smarter than their Mongoloid children, because I was the one who could dream of outside of Baltimore.

Like I was one of the few. All of them that were pissed at me because I was smart and who could dream of outside of Baltimore. Like I was one of the few. All of them that were pissed at me because I was smart and didn't really give them much about, fuck about church stuff and everything. They'll have to go to the Greek festival on Stavros Halkis Way. That is. Every year, baby. That's actually, we have to make this happen.

We have to make this happen. We have to make this happen. Because they'll never leave Greek town. No, no, they'll see it every day. Yeah, they're great, great kids. have to make this happen. We have to make this happen. We have to make this happen. We have to make this happen. We have to make this happen. We have to make this happen. We have to make this happen. We have to make this happen. We have to make this happen. We have to make this happen.

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I go to Baltimore and it's like, I'm like mobbed on the streets because I've done a couple Ravens videos. Like, I literally, I'm not even kidding. Doing a total of maybe 14 Ravens videos over the course of two years, made it so that I could sell out a theater five times in Baltimore It's crazy. So have you got out the Baltimore, baby? Have the Greeks coming out?

The Greeks are coming out more and more. You know how it is, man I'm you you probably dealt with this because you had a great Greek character But it was almost I could assume yeah, of course we're talking about Mr. Pannos here of course But I can assume that it was difficult for Greeks to like listen to anything but Mr. Pannos here, of course. But I can assume that it was difficult for Greeks to like listen to anything but Mr. Pannos. That's right. So it's like, I, it was almost like I learned from you where I was like, fuck, I don't need these fucking,

these like, these Greek Guidos that do exist. There's a big population of Greeks that are no better than the Italians, which we are very clear on this podcast, the lowest whites there are. Without question, in the white hierarchy, most Italians. Where I live now, they'll pull me and you over for paper.

They'll ask for our paper for our little, I live like, let's say Connecticut, we walk around and we're like, we're Puerto Rican. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We just became great, like three months ago. It's still like a question. Our Greeks wide, which is kind of great for these times. It's fun.

Yeah, as you're like, no, we're not white. Well, my contention on fat, rascal available now on Netflix is I think that we are Arabs. We're the lightest skinned Arabs. So that's kind of what I think. So you took a peak at 23 me. No, no, my brother did. yeah, my brother peak, yeah.

Did you, you got a little, you're from the Levant? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. This is purely just what we're like. Look at all the jewelry, look at all the, how, like my, it's like everything about us is the, we're, we're where Arabs begin, basically, you know? Like that's like on the continuum, you know what I mean? Where it's like Europe, we're where Arabs begin basically, you know like that's like on the continuum You know what I mean where it's like Europe we're sort of like the buffer zone between Europe and Arabs in my opinion

Yes, and and we behave like Arabs. It's like the food because the Turks Fucked our asses for so long. That's the other thing. We just have to accept what happened and if you they own us They fucked our asses for about nice 500 years. We got them back 1821. We told the Ottomans to suck our dicks. And they did. And they sucked it with a smile on their face. And we got most of the islands, we got the good shit back. They took half a cypress.

Yeah, they got to keep Cybris. They took my dad's island and kept that in brush. Oh, really? Oh, one of the few islands they took a few. Because we got a couple that are really close to Turkey. Yeah, you can see them. One of the few islands they took a few. Because we got a couple that are really close to Turkey. You can see them. With all the roads is like right there,

you know, heel, like all that stuff. We took a few back, but they took a few too. Damn. We did a good job for, you know, where we were at. They raped our asses and they raped a few vaginas. They gave birth to a few Greeks that have some turquin' them. Oh, more than a few. And look guys, we gotta be honest,

the best foods are kind of like thanks to Turks. Like, at least through food is. It's, we got to, and we improved it. Don't get me wrong. Greek food is better than, you know, we get the salads, we get the, it's fresher, you get a little more veggie stuff. Like, you know, hummus is fine,

but Zaziki, Dara Mossalata, all that shit's better. Oh yeah. But we did have to put a Greek spin on what the fucking emir told us to eat. You know what I mean? We call it a Greek coffee, but it is a turtic coffee. That's where I draw the line, actually. I won't give up on that one.

You keep calling it Greek. That's my line. But hey, look, everyone has different, you're more of an extremist than me, I'm more of a moderate. Well, I'm just part Turkish. Yeah. I found that out, I wish I didn't know that.

What was the piece, so what did you, 23? 33%! 33%? 33%? Yeah. I'm hoping it's Anatolian Greek, because there was a lot of Greeks living there, but no, the DNA, there's Turk,

and in 23, you can see some relatives and it was a couple of Turkish guys that reached out that you're connected hey man I'm a collector yeah you call the police that's theirs really I think we kind of borrowed. But I think we made a couple nice improvements on a lot of stuff, the creamier stuff. We are, where it's just like a mix of like, you know, the bolt, like I really do content and there's where it Greek supremacy comes back.

We took everything from Balkans and these fucking, you know, Serb dogs and all that kind of shit. And everything miscellaneous, white. Miscellaneous, white. And everything from Turks and like, you know, and we're like, all right, girls can have their titties out and we're gonna add a couple little more dairy

or a little more pork. You guys don't wanna have pork, we're gonna make the most deli- using your methods. We're gonna make a more delicious thing with fucking a yido, you know, the night. And it would just pork, the real yido's pork, it's not fucking beef, a beef lamb monstrosity.

That's an Americanized thing. So, we figured it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We still the best. We're a nice little melting pot. Yeah, they can't do pork, right? Yeah, I think that's why, at least that's why my,

that's what my obese uncle, the Mithiri, told me, is that we, Yido started because, you know, the Turks would throw us. He said the pork scraps, but that doesn't make sense because they can't eat any pork. They were probably eating it on the slide. On the sweet.

The way you're not supposed to fuck a little boy. The way the fuck in the governor. The 9-11 hijackers supposedly went to a strip club the night before. I think a lot of people do a lot of things. I know a lot of Jews who eat bacon and cheese. Sure. I think it's a little straight sex. I mean, we're all doing eat bacon and cheese. Sure. Yeah. I respect straight sex.

I mean, we don't all do what we're supposed to do. Well, we remember what our genes tell us to do. Well, yeah, we have to, we have to, we have to feel right, but I do it. Yeah, we have to mute the choir of voices in our heads telling us, half gay, sad, as fuck, oh man, fuck, oh man.

A nice little side note, I would love, Half-K said, as fuck, oh man, fuck, oh man. A nice little side note, I would love, I think a great pilot is, or a great TV show is, what if on the night before 9'11, the high jackers had such a good time at the strip club, they start getting their dick sucked, they're like, what are we doing? And then they just like, we follow these guys, just starting your life in Florida. And it's like, you know, the

Al Qaeda's pissed at them. They have to evade them, you know, maybe finally the FBI is starting to get and then they have to kind of like Evade Al Qaeda, they have to evade Ameri, you know, FD FBI, maybe then they become like Double eight they get picked up by the FBI now they got to be double agents and like with Osama Esanali watching, you watchin'? You know? Yeah, maybe, they might steal it. Listen, they open a vape store. Then they open a...

Yeah, Middle Eastern guys love to open a vape store in Florida. Oh wow. I love it. 2001, what's the equivalent of a vape store in O1? Right, because they wouldn't have vape. We didn't have vape, yeah. They were star... I mean, I'm a...

I'm a hookalount. Oh, I mean, hookalount is there lounge who go lounge right in the face clear water Yeah, maybe they call it twin towers who could just as a little yeah no one knows what it what a you know What they've done for us what a solid they did us you know, yeah, they should call it the twin towers I was like this weird these guys loved the twin towers so much. They're Arabs, they're living Florida. And they're like, if you knew my friend, you would be buying a Morhuka. You would be tipping more than 10%.

If you knew what it was, could've happened. Yeah, dude. Absolute to those guys. But, you know, the Freedom Tower is nicer. Yeah. You think it's worth it? Yannis just take, folks. He didn't need enough grain, I think it's worth it. Yannis just take folks. He didn't need enough grand, I mean.

You know, it's the EV car of New Zealand. Yeah, it's gonna, it's the future. Yeah, I have, I don't think I've ever, I so rarely go that far downtown. It's kind of, I don't think I've even, like been that close to it to be honest with you. Yeah, you know that, that's just, is there any shit around there? I mean, I guess the memorial, that close to it, to be honest with you. Yeah, you know that, that's just tour. Is there any shit around there?

I mean, I guess the memorial. They got the downtown, they got the winter gardens, there's all that, that is good restaurants, there's like, yeah, but there's bad juju down there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a, if you believe in energy, the side of the one of the most tremendous, of the terrorist attack that launched us

into a state of constant surveillance There's so much horrible error so many deaths so many fucking yeah, you're right. I was kind of thinking about moving into the city Maybe I'll avoid try Becca, you know, I think there's a Greek church down there that the survived that survived That's pretty cool. I mean hey, you can't the true guy Yeah, exactly exactly nice try Muslims let me ask you can't, yeah, exactly, exactly. Nice try. But Muslims, let me ask you this question. Yeah. Uh, what was it?

Nine hijackers with box cutters or whatever it was. I believe so. Yeah. We're able to fly those jets, um, crash them into their targets. Yep. They weren't that good at flying. No, uh, famously did landing, got the Pentagon, right? But we know footage of it, just like a mystery ball.

Because they were able to pull it off, does it make part of you go, maybe they're right, maybe a lot is. I've been thinking about this actually just in general. Just this. Yeah. Like to pull that off, you have to have got on your side. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's almost miraculous.

It is impregn, like this is not a, this is not a plus minus value judge, right? But it is impressive. It's impressive. They were able to do that. Not cool. Not cool. I'm gonna say not cool at all.

But maybe, but maybe, I don't, maybe. I mean, but then again, it's like, yeah, I mean, what's Christianity's last big win? Man, we lost those. It was a nine inning game, the Crusades was lost. The Crusades, yeah. That's the thing, even the Crusades. But the extra innings are coming, probably.

Yeah. But I think it was the nine battles, they won the majority of them. But even that was a fool's, that was fucking, yeah. The Crusades were fun. They're cool, they're funny. They think about all these fucking stinky Europeans, like marching down and just fucking people up

and holding territory for like 10 years. And also there's like with the crusades, like they kind of timed it by accident well where there was like a very, there was like a weak ruler of like the Empire, whatever. And yeah, they just went down, they fucking take the Holy Land, just don't really do anything, just kind of chill there

for like literally 20, 25 years, which in the span of history is like, you know, nothing. Yeah, they didn't have America given weapons, so it was hard to hold. Yeah, exactly, exactly. You see, we're looking at history. If it's a fair fight. No, he's a you in.

I mean, I love when you're looking at it on the map, and it's just like, just, Arab, Arab, Arab, and then like, tiny little like Israel, the kingdom of power, whatever they called it. What did they, I got into the crusades like this much because I got into medieval shit. Is this interesting?

I don't know why, that just, I don't know if it feels like fake. Like it's crazy to me to think about like night castles and nights and shit. And it's also fascinating to me to think about like how nightcassels and nights and shit. And it's also fascinating to me to think about like how horrible the day-to-day life was. Oh, yeah. Because it's like, I think about when I get a hang nail

and I'm like, on the road and I can't get to a CVS. Yeah. So I have like a little, it starts hurting and it's just like ballooning up and then I'm like, I can't wait to get to my home where I can have this minor medical ailment treated. But, and I'm in a clean hotel. Like, imagine you're on the road.

Like, I think about how bad on the road as a comedian feels now. Imagine the road is like you and your boy, a hundred of your boys get on the horses and just have to find shelter after like five days and then you sleep in like a barn. And it's fucking smells like shit. You're eating the paved roads. You're just like, yeah, there's no paved roads. Yeah, gang sleep in like a barn. And it's fucking smells like shit. You're eating paved roads.

You're just like, you're the whole way. There's no paved roads. You got gangrene, like your feet are sweating. How horrible would it be? I get asked to put for modern, I have modern shoes and socks. Yes, yes, yes. My feet would be mangled up.

I was wearing some leather slip on my feet. And just somebody would die every like, like now it's like somebody dies. It's tragic. They get a disease that can't be treated. But like, one of your friends would just die just kind of, you don't even know why. Yeah, every like 20 days.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's what happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They didn't even know what the medical condition was. He just dropped that. Those were definitely the dark ages for the West. Yeah, we were burning women on faggots. That's what they were called.

You don't have to be bit. You don't have to be bit. Nice, stick pull. They were actually called faggots. Yeah, put the definition, the dictionary definition underneath. Yeah, but yeah, I don't know. It seems like, I guess you can't, unless you give Christianity America's wins, but I don't think you quite can do that.

Yeah, what's the, you're right, what is the last great Christian victory? The trans bathroom law in North Carolina. Yeah, they got about six months of that. Oh, I don't know. Oh, yeah, what's the, we have, yeah. I guess you're right, there is a feeling of, there is a weird feeling of people getting back to religion that I personally don't appreciate

as kind of like, Voxa Madrid, gay, okay, I see you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you go, did you, I mean, did you have to go to the Golden Altar Blast? I was an altar boy too. Yeah, yeah.

You ever pass out on Easter? I never, Elders, can you get that, that's a bagel I'm gonna eat right after this podcast? That's so new. You like, I love it. Um, I had to do, yes, Easter was fucking, well you never, you always thought, holy week was better to be an altar boy because holy week services were so bullshit.

Yeah. They were, you know, they were kind of long, there's all this whatever. If you're in the altar with your boys, sneaking a little fucking bread. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? No one knows this, but like the bread, yeah, you know, you get perfectly cubed things of bread.

And then the corners though, they're not serving crusts. No, they're not. We were eating huge hunks of crusts of holy bread. And those are the best. They were good, man. They were a bunch of, they were bunch of, yeah. Yeah. Eldis, you were a fucking altar boy too

I guess I should wait until you're near the mic go get to the mic motherfucker was he in the garage? I've been in soft-focused this whole time you fucking asshole all right was he recording the dogs to Eldest and thank you for addressing me before I give my Albanian permission to speak in the classic Greek way that's the way and they all are other guests. It's been very rude to me addressing Elvis personally. Elvis went to, he was in a Russian Orthodox church, because he was a little too good for them.

We were sponsored by Greek monastery. We were selected by the lottery from Albania to come to the US and then in Baltimore, we're sponsored by Russian Orthodox Church. Yeah, there were a few issues. There was an author boy there. Yeah. For a lot of people.

By the way, Lucky draw, a look of the draw to get an Albanian that is like gentle and reads like literature. With your frame like in the regular Albanian mind, you should have been a menace. Yeah, like when he came. America won that lottery, not you. When he told me it was Albania,

I came in here and he wasn't stealing everything in the house, okay. Are you sure? It's okay. I've been broken over the years. I know you've been doing it now. Yeah, I get rid. My relatives are most proud of me

of how I've been able to handle my personal Albanian. Like, wow, and he's big too, and he listens. He doesn't get violent. I'm like, no, he knows better. He knows better. He's out here. Yeah, dude, I would go to alter. And you did alter at the Russian word, the X Church, didn't you?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we kept trying to get Elvis over to the fucking, to St. Nick's. Yeah. Shout out to St. Nicholas, Greek Orthodox Church. I was an altar boy there. I touched titties there for the first time.

I got food or alcohol poisoning there for the first time. That's the thing about the Greek Church. It's got it all. It's community. I played bat, use basketball there. You know, they let you get fucked up there during the Greek festival. I don't know how the, because you grew up in,

what part of Brooklyn? Park Slope. In Park Slope. So we were three high rocks and then we were the cathedral in Manhattan with my parents. Oh really you know get classy get classy Well, they're too good for Brooklyn. Yeah They had to go to the city for Greek church father Stefanopolis George Stefanopolis father was the priest Wow, he was the nicest guy. That's who I am. I think he's a lot.

Oh well. The greatest guy. Wow. Archbishop Yagavus, do you remember Archbishop Yagavus? I think, I mean, he might have been younger. He would come, all the big, all the big wigs would come down to Baltimore. I remember the big one was Bartholomew,

but he was like, yeah, I remember. International, yeah, yeah, he was our Pope or whatever. Yeah. He came through the, he came from Constantinople. That's right. That's right, Constantinople. Not the other fake city that we won't even name. Yeah, when I was in like second grade,

that motherfucker came through and they had us all like in the Greek, like, Uniform, straight, so yeah, like in the uniform, praying, yeah, best behavior, they're like throwing a bearish in front of our Pope. But he was in and out, that motherfucker barely. I remember being like, he's just some guy. I was like, honestly, expecting like a minor miracle.

Like I was expecting him to be able to just like, I don't know, do like one glass of water into wine. Like I really thought he would do some miracle to prove he was like, because I still, you know, when I was a child, so I believed in God fully at the time and I was like, this guy must have, I didn't think he had Jesus' level powers, but I thought he had like, he could do like a little,

you know what I mean? Like a little, little force lightning, right? He knows something. Well, he's just some old Greek guy, so suck. Well, when you're an altar boy, you see kind of behind the curtain, because you're back there. Yes, yes. And so I learned that it was a show. So yeah, we got to. We got

the early show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You go backstage and like the Archbishop would be all surly and he would spread his arms and like all the deacons and altibois would attend to his robes and stuff. We yell at somebody and then go out and he'd be all holy. And I'm like, this is a show. It was great. You know, you're right. It's a lot. I bet you it's a lot similar to what drag queens are like backstage. Cause she had like three to every priest had his own attendant, someone shining his jewelry, someone like,

literally like looking at his combing his beard and hair and shit and he what, like we were a smaller, I mean, do you're in the big leagues? Oh, dude. You're in all the big leagues, I'm in the sticks and balls. You're in the big stadium, like Manhattan, George Stephanopoulos is. I'm in the sticks and balls. You're a big stadium. Like Manhattan, George Stephanopoulos is bad.

There's the fucking priest. Wow, dude, I had no idea. Yeah, Yakuhoos used to come to arched church for Easter. Oh, that was like the Yankee Stadium. Holy shit. That's big. That's the one he came to in America. He'd come, the archbishop, you know,

North and South America comes. Wow. Yeah, everyone there had a south America comes. Wow. Yeah everyone there, you know had a little money my parents would go and it was all about like network and they had their own law firms. Yeah network network and they dragged me along. Wow. Yeah this is so much different than like you could make like in my church it was like all right you want to move some crab cakes. You got your wholesale crab cake distributor. Well these are are the guys you wanna talk to. You wanna get in here and maybe get a,

you got extra, you land from New Zealand coming in. These guys can move it. It was all, it was like carpenters with a low end, obviously. And it was like, literally the leaders of our church were the most successful, like carry out restaurant owners. And then like the richest guy when you was a guy who just made bread. He made, like, he supplied all the bread in Baltimore.

He just got, he just had a shitty, like, little bread. And a shitty bakery, his grandfather bakery, like, in the 20s. And then he just right place, right time. And just, like, he, like, started making bread for McDonald's. And then it was like, oh, man. Dude, he got the McDonald's contract. And then it was like, wow, these people are he got the McDonald's contract and then it was like, Wow, these people are really,

that was the most impressive man I knew. I think I was bread. It was the guy who made buns for McDonald's. Like the idea that there would be a lawyer, like there were some lawyers, but it was like, we had literally like one lawyer in the thing and it was like,

Hey, if you need to get into a better school in Baltimore, just this lawyer, like we had like, we had one lawyer with one cop, you know, like we just had one of them. And then all the rich people were surely restauranters. Yeah, there was no one, there was no other industry in Greek town in Baltimore at all.

Greek passport into America. Through the diner. Yeah, we started at three high rocks, which was in Brooklyn and it was more like that. Yeah. And then, you know, you move up in the cathedral, and my uncle was still the choir director at three high rocks. I think there was like a little jealousy that we started going to different church, or

Maritzi. I keep it in the fan, we'll take them on. We'll build up. And you know what's funny is like, the way Parks Club went, because at the time, there was no Greeks in Parks Club. Oh, there was no Greeks. You just happened to live there. You just happened to live there. We just happened to live there.

Oh, wow. All the Greeks were in a story, my cousins were in a story, we'd come freestred to a story. Wow. The story at one point was all Greek. I mean, 100% Greek. I remember when I was a fucking kid,

I would come up here and they would, like that's, I've told the story before, but like, our church, this was what coming to New York was, was coming to a story. Are you going to a story? Are you going to a story of. Like, we would not go, we would go to Manhattan, to see Greek statues, and then they're like, all right, back to the story, go get a fucking

soko-fretta, go get a, go get a, on a VCCD. Oh, interesting, why did your family live in Brooklyn, do you think? Well, my dad was from Flappish, his father had restaurants in Flappish. At one point, my grandfather had the biggest diner in New York. The Normandy diner on the West Side Highway. Before that, it was Red Hook. He had a diner where the docks were really active down there. And so they were Brooklyn people. And so my mother, when she emigrated, they lived in Brooklyn.

They were Brooklyn people. I see. I see. But they didn't go to a story yet. But they were like trying to be upwardly mobile. Like they went to law school, went to Brooklyn law school. So yeah, yeah, they were trying to fit in. Yeah. They looked down on those greasy Greek swing and hido. Yeah.

They were like, we're better than those diner monkeys. We're high class Greeks. We used to go to a story at a, like, Custom Stratratos' house, and they were mechanics and their hands would just be full of dirt. You could, they were, they worked, were like even if you washed your hands. You've put it in.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, my father and all his friends hands were like, they used that coarse soap. That's like literally little rocks in it. And even that, they have to tear their skin to get the dirt out of it and shit like that. Yeah, like my grandfather didn't understand when my dad played football and he wanted to play football in college and my grandfather just didn't understand it.

He was like, oh dude, you're not going to work in the restaurant? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't. And then he even talked to him. He was mad at him about it. Wow. That's interesting. I mean, my parents literally didn't understand the rules of football.

My mom would come to my I played football football. Like, my mom would come to my play football a couple years and my mom would come to the games and would I would I would I played defensive, you know, I played nose tackle, but I also played soccer. So a JV football games are like, all right, well, you kick also and punt and like whatever. And so she would just cheer during the kickoff. She thought I was like scoring a goal. Like she's not kicking with some scoring points. And everybody would just be like, waiting. And she's like, yeah, stop it all. She's like, she got no concept of the rules whatsoever.

But she was supportive. Whereas my father never even considered going to a football game. He went to soccer games, and then he's like, oh, you're playing football now, I'm not going. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like that. Yeah. So, they were they trying to groom you to be a lawyer, your family, what were they thinking?

They just were, whenever I got a C-minus, they were happy. Oh, wow. Yeah, because my brother, like, went to Georgetown Law, Oxford. Wow. Holy shit. Wow. And so, and I was like the class clown, and the misfit, and so if I got to see minus,

they just, you know, they just, they were scared that I was like slower, they could just, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Being a lawyer was, they just knew it even a tent, you couldn't even consider that. They just wanted me to be like, oh, that's nice.

I'm live and, you know, like, that's good to have the cover of the smart siblings. Yeah. You know what I mean? Again, like. That's good to have the cover of the smart sibling. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like again, to show you how different the expectations were, I was the smart one in my family. So I'm the one that my brothers had covered from because I just did like, okay,

it's standardized tests or whatever. But they were like, to be the one that just, no one really gives a fuck about, that's beautiful man. You were the second. I was the third. You were the third, okay. You were the third, okay. At a three or how many? At a three, yeah. Third at a three, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were the second. I was the third. You were the third. Okay.

At a three or how many? Yeah. Third at a three, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You were the smart one. I was number one. I was the first born in I was the smart one. I was the smart one, yeah.

Yeah, for sure. Your other brother is a cool guy. You got an artist and you got it. Yeah, they're cool. Don't get me wrong there. And a guy who does a gym shift. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we have a great, you guys are close.

I love that. We have a great setup where it was like everyone kind of figured their shit out. Like, we're like, you know, I'm doing whatever fine, but like Nick and Georgia, they're still, they're still, they're still, they're in Baltimore. Nick, Georgia, stop, you have very Greeks. You are, you're like, I'm Greek, you're Greek.

Yeah. I mean, I got Nico's in Pandelis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're two Greek guys. Right, right. We're fucking in bread Greeks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. No, we have, and so it's nice,

because my brothers are like, George is like, he lives right by the artist. Like, he just, he sticks around, he's like, you know, doing shady works. He does some editing for us, he's like, you know, do it, you know. But he's in Greek town, so it's like, he's just there day to day helping out.

If like my mom needs anything, he's just had like her hip surgery. And then Nick is just, you know, that motherfucker, he's opening his own gym classic. He's taking like, diner mentality to a gym. The first year he had it open, he was there just constantly. But it's also like, if there's ever any big emergencies,

like I can always trust my brothers to like, handle it, which is fucking nice, because you're, you know, even though New York is relative, as far as America goes, it's close, I'm in the car, I can get there, but it's just nice to feel like we haven't figured out, I'm excited to go back and see them. I gotta place in Baltimore because even if you,

fucking, even if you have a ton of money, you can't buy a place in the city. It's insane. I wanted to buy a house. But I got a house there now, so I'll just like, I'm excited to go chill and just fucking work out. It's not. It is nice to be an adult and be like, oh nice. My family kind of figured it out. I don't know if you guys had the ups and downs.

Seems like you had some... Mine's down. Yeah, some real downs with the man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it feels good to just kind of like, we definitely, it was definitely real up and down and it feels like we're kind of, you know, obviously we have shit to figure out,

but it feels like we're getting there. That's great, because when the parents get older, it's a challenge and having brothers is... Oh yeah. Just so you guys are there for each other to help each other. That's great. And you guys will always get along as long as you don't get into business at an restaurant. Right.

Right. For some reason, when Greek brothers on a restaurant, like one shoots the other one. It is funny. It's like, it either, they're the closest people of all time. Like, you've never seen a stronger bond or there is a blood feud. You see the beginnings of a blood feud that will take over for generations. Like that always happens in Greece where people, like if there's a grandfather and the two

of the, you know, half of his siblings go to America, your cousins will stab you in the back for a plot of land that they can put a beachfront hotel on. They're like falsified documents. They're like, you cannot trust your Greek relatives usually. We're like you, we have good, you know, we have good Greek relatives. My wives have Greek and they have a piece of land like they're Spartan and a village in Spartan and there was just a murder over it. It was just a family murder in the village over the house.

Like, yeah, it's just what happened in the village. Yeah, yeah. Fighting over the house. Like, yeah, it's just what happened in the village. Yeah, fighting over the house. Someone got murdered. Yeah, got got. There's some diner in Connecticut where two brothers, one brother murdered the other one. Yeah.

If you think about it, when the Greeks won the Euro Cup, we needed a German coach to like get together and stop infighting. Yeah, it's love infighting. Oh, it's true. Because we're traumatic people. Traumatic. We get emotional. We take things. We have vendetta's. We hold them. fighting this love in fighting because we're dramatic people. dramatic. We get emotional.

We take things. We have vendetta. Absolutely. We hold them. We don't hold grudges. We hold grudges over stupid shit. And I'm trying to be like enlightened and let the grudges go.

But I treat myself to two grudges. Oh, that's nice. I'm just like, I'm never letting go for me. I'm going to be happy every time I hear something's going bad for this guy. I can't wait. I love when you're just on TikTok and one of them's a comedian. So it's like, you see just their brutal content, just bombing and you're like, awesome.

I should be a better person. I should let this go. But I can't. But I'm Greek and it's like, I've let most of it go. But it's like, you know, this man from like way in my, we're talking like open mic days. Not even like anything that affects my life at all, but I'm just like, no, I'm gonna treat myself to one grudge and then I'll keep up, you know,

I've been better about letting shit go. I like that, that sort of like you've, you've funneled it all into my cheeks. It's my cheeks grudge. It's my little, it's my little treat, you know? Because it's not healthy. It's not healthy to keep resentments and like from, you know, my current life, like last 10 years,

let's say, last five, 10 years, I don't hold anything, but it's like, you know, if you go far enough back and it's like, it's almost like, I don't know. My mother was like that. My mother was like a human rights lawyer and she worked for the UN, but if you brought up Turks or Germans.

Really? I mean, Mr. Pano's just like, most of who he is is her. Yeah. Like, she just couldn't let it go. She couldn't forgive. You got to also think about the context of these people's lives.

Like your mom was a little girl and this she was half-man, she was there. Like, that's the thing. It's like, you kind of have to give those people a pass. Yeah. Anyone who was there, it's like, all right. I get it. You know, it's like fine. But it's like, If anyone who was there, it's like, all right. I get it. You know, it's like fine.

But it's like, but also the next generation, it's like, you kind of have to be able to read the, you know, just look at the facts and be like, hey, we gotta move forward, all this kind of shit, but your mom can, can, we don't. But we should be able to make jokes about Germans. Like, whenever anyone gets salty about like a Nazi joke, you wanna be like, you guys know what you did

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a German. The thing is Germans make a joke about it. I don't think Germans get salty Germans get like You are right The most disgraceful thing that we've done like they really get like they like they handled it the right way where they're like We're not pretending it didn't happen. Yeah, you know me you You won't find, like, South, like, let's just say, like, there's no statues of Hitler because it was history. You know what I mean? Like, you go to South Carolina,

you still got a couple interesting statues, you know? Like, Germany was like, are bad. You know what I mean? Which is, if you're rugged brutal, yeah. That's the way to hand it. Sorry about that. Yeah. Geez, we really fucked up on that one.

What can I say? I can I know sorry doesn't change anything. Yeah, it's like when a serial killer is being interviewed in the prison. Like, what do you want me to say? Sorry. And the court when they make them say sorry, like you want to release a statement? Like, yeah, I'm sorry for murdering your daughter. I was just if it's that we quit. Is that daughter. Does it make it better? Do you feel even slightly better? Does it even change things or does it

probably make you feel worse now? He showed no remorse. Of course he showed no remorse. You want them to feel, I don't know, this is, I would assume you want them to show no remorse. Especially if you're, imagine if you're like religious and you're like, this guy just confessed and prayed. Now he gets to go to heaven.

He fucking killed my son. He raped my child and then he just saw a priest and the guy was like, not me, feels bad, he's good. He gets to go to heaven now. Well, that's why I'm surprised Christianity caught on in Greece because the whole thing is turning to the cheek. It's like, what Greek do you know? No, forget this. It turns to the cheek Greek do you know? No, forget, there's the other cheek and forget.

No, forgive just whatsoever. But I will say Greeks don't really give a fuck about religion. Like, it's again, a primalidist. He even got appearances. That's what it is. Big holidays, roast a nice lamb, you know? But that's why we're even doing this.

Like, I don't know, they don't even really give a fuck about Christmas. It's a New year's culture. That's why we're doing Proto-Koranyah with my boy Yanni here because, Grimibba love first of the year. I gotta get that coin. Go to the hospital and that's good luck.

Yeah, yeah. You choke on the coin and break it, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have good luck. Oh fuck, we need to get a Vasylope, that dude. Yeah, we need a Vasylope. We already got it. Fuck, I wish we had just bought one for this. I'll tell you what, when I was he thought, dude. Yeah, we need a vassal. We already got it. Fuck, I wish we had just bought one for this.

I'll tell you what, like when I was a kid, like, so I grew up on a block, it was all Irish, some Jews, Italians, and I remember when I was a little kid. You remember those bouncy balls? Yeah, that's what we always do. That's what we always do for us. So my friend, Jamie, and he was an Irish kid. Well, they had the little handle too.

They had one, so. I was on the bouncy ball, and I bounced into his parents' bureau with a mirror on it and it broke And they the parents made me feel so bad. Yeah, yeah, and I was like what do you mean? This is good luck. I broke something It was just I couldn't believe they made me feel bad that happened at my house. We'd all be like oh How old are you this must have been six five six? It's crazy to make a little kid feel bad Yeah, the Irish, you know. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Everything's a tragedy. Yeah. That's what I love about Greek culture. You break stuff. It's good luck. They don't make you feel bad.

No. You know. It's all, I mean, it is the most laid back. It's a hangout culture. I've said that many times. It's culture. It's designed around hanging out, getting coffee for three hours, getting dinner for five hours, like sitting on the beach. It's really, it's fucked up how much work we have to do. It's funny when you go to a Greek restaurant, it's like the

other restaurants will be closed. A Greek restaurant is just open till six in the morning. Open is one old guy. He's both horrible and great at his job at the same time. I'd say one of the craziest things I went, I did a show for Icarians, the Icarian Brotherhood, they get together every year in different cities. Yep. So they hired me to do a comedy show,

the Greek comedy shows are the worst. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's there, the children are there. They're brutal. It's brutal. They've asked, I remember I was there, it's brutal. It's when I was starting, they asked me to do, they're like, do a show and it's like, I had been doing comedy for like four years.

It's like, if you think my ex dirty now, it's like I'm like, what do you want me to co up there and talk about how like my dick small, I can't get hard. I am too fat to wipe my ass. That was one of my big jokes at the time. I was like, I'm getting so fat

I'm having trouble wiping my ass. Like you want me to do that in front of everyone I've ever met in my life. All the people that have been at every church service. It's such a bad idea. And to really make up, I mean, you're a trooper for making them work. I just, even now I turn them down.

Because I'm just like, I turn them down now, yeah. I can't do that shit as well. It's always through the church. Like you said, everything in the green community is through the church. So every show, there's just a priest right there. And I'm like, yeah, I got in the kids. But I did the show, and they, you know,

they're one of the blues zones. So the, the, the, Icarians lived to like their centarians. He lived to like 100. Right, right, right. And they were like, it's because we party, like all the guys I was hanging out with. And then what I saw, I really, it was,

I couldn't believe what I saw. So after the show, we went to like the ballroom. It was like midnight. And it was like kind of empty, a few people, and I was like, oh, it was, I couldn't believe what I saw. So after the show, we went to the ballroom, it was like midnight. And it was like kinda empty, a few people, and I was like, oh, it's over. They were like, no, no, no, we haven't, it hasn't started yet. Oh my God.

And then dude, the partying, like the level of partying these people did, and like 80 year olds, 90 year olds, drinking, children, intergenerational, the music, then the traditional, like, yes, they come out. I carry a music, and they were all dead, and it was just, I got, intergenerational, the music, then the traditional, like, yes, they come out. I carry a music and they were all dead and it was just, I got, they were drinking, I got so hammered, like, I was like throwing up

and they were just like, another one. And like, dude, yeah, I mean, Greeks party, man, they do, we do know how to, we do know how to have a good time. That's, yeah, it's like, their whole, like, when you go and see Greeks on an island, it's like, the day starts at like four p.m. And you just have your little fucking coffee You have you know, you might hit the beach for a little bit

You then you take another nap and then you like you leave for shit at like 10 p.m. It's early Yeah, you might get dinner at 10 p.m. And then it's like one midnight whatever Oh, look at the blue zones. What's the like what are the characteristics of those because they sound so awesome It's the better it's like midnight, whatever. Oh, look at the blue zones. What's the like, what are the characteristics of those? Cause they sound so awesome. It's the better. It's like, there's one in California, there's one I think in Costa Rica, there's one in Japan.

Okinawa. Yeah, there's one in Greece, and there's one in Italy. I think those are the five. And Okinawa prefecture, Noro province in Italy, the Nikaia Peninsula, Costa Rica, Iqaida, and Loma Linda, California. Interesting.

So click on that fucking, but I wanna see what the fuck it is. I'll just click on the thing. This guy did a documentary that's on Netflix about it, where he went and researched all of them, and then they created a blue zone in America, and the people are healthier. Wow.

It's crazy, it's crazy. I think it's in Minnesota or somewhere, in Wisconsin, where he tried tried to took a local community and Started implementing a lot of the things he learned from the blue zones. Yeah community intergenerational hanging out no time Urgency like ability. Yeah, no summer some don't have alcohol Culturally isolated. That's interesting. Yeah, that's social circle. Yeah. I mean it makes sense It's like if you're not stressed out, you get a lot of sunshine. You eat like some fucking beans and plants and like grilled meats. That's and constant moderate physical activity. Everybody's always going for walks. Yeah. A lot of them are on a lot of

the areas are in hills. So people are walking up a lot. It's like double the workout. That's brutal. So that's the mom out. Forget it. Take this off my screen now. This I'm not going up a fucking hill. That sounds horrible. But be a little old man in a fucking on the in the beat on the beach on a coastal thing. That's that's you. Oh, I can't wait. Yeah. That's you in your final form, right? Absolutely. Yeah. That's some great silence. Just grilling. Little fillet and poros. Yeah, no, that's really like, I can really see that happening.

That's all I want. I think I wanna go to, I think I'm gonna go take a nice long vacation in Greece this summer. Where do you go when you go? I went this year, we actually went, my cousin got married in Thassa, which is northern Greece,

and it's nice, cause it doesn't have the like blue, it's not the like white, it's not, you know, this shit, it's like an actual just like, you know, well they do that for the tourists, right? They keep painting, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like the fire on the cheese, they don't do that. Yeah, right, right. And it was nice, man, it was interesting, it was not touristy, and even if it was touristy, it was like since it's northern Greece, it's like a lot of like, you know, Bulgarians, like you know, just people, it's not like annoying Germans, or like you know, just people, it's not like annoying Germans,

or like you know, British people, Australians, they're the worst. Oh God. The fucking worst. They love to get naked, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some reason they love the being naked. It's brutal, they love, yeah.

They're all red as fuck, they have horrible, like their skin sucks dick in the sun. They, you know, and they're just like, oh, let's get fucked up. And you're just like, just throwing up everywhere, trying to put their thumbs in everyone's ass. Yeah, this brutal stuff. There, you see them like in the Netherlands too,

where they go to the Red Light District for their bachelor parties and they're just, they drink, they throw up, they vomit. It's just, they're just really like, they're just, the savages. Yeah, they're just barbar like they're just the savages Fuck the British everything when Fuck the Australian Northern Europe like got all of our knowledge You know, it's so fucked up. I still understand how England got to be the an empire

I guess I don't know they're Navy. Yeah, the Navy built up a good Navy figured out the Navy But they they had some monks that translated all the ancient Greek stuff. It's, there's a great book called, How the Irish Saved Civilization. Oh, really? Yeah, that's so freaking interesting. And the Roman, Romans got up there. That's true.

The Romans got up there. And of course, the Romans were really just us. Yeah. Like, they stole our whole shit. They stole our whole shit. They stole our whole shit. They stole our fucking Rome. Yeah. They took our, only because we couldn't unify. Yeah. We didn our whole shit. They stole our whole shit. They stole our whole shit. They stole our fucking room. Yeah. Yeah. They took our only because we couldn't unify.

Yeah. We didn't unify. We never had an empire because we were just fighting with each other. We couldn't unify. You know what's fucked up? The Roman Empire never had a tomato once. No one in the Roman Empire ever ate a tomato.

They had a tomato. I didn't even know that. That's fucking crazy. The tomato come later, huh? Tomato came later from South America Wow No Caesar never had a fucking tomato in his life. Wow, that's no Roman Legionnaire They were like eating like fucking, you know, I don't know Barley and shit like that's why they probably were able to conquer because they didn't have

Before they Made that's what it was. It's not the lead paint poisoning Is that they finally got a fucking tomato. Yeah, changed everything. Oh, let's fucking chill and have a nice fucking put it in the house. Give them credit to us. When they got the tomato, they figured out what to do.

They worked that shit. Yeah, they worked that tomato. We just cut it up and put it in a peasant salad. Yeah. They were like, let's mush it. No, I will give them credit for their sauces. Yeah. That's why, that's where the Italians grudgingly earn my respect.

Is their sauces what they did with the tomato? Because Greek like, Greek like villager food, it's very tomato like sauce based, but it sucks there. It sucks. Okay, just not interesting sauces. No, we do lemon and olive oil. We crush it.

We got the best tomatoes, I think. I think Greek potatoes. I like it. With the oregano, lemon and olive oil and baked. It's just... If you bake it just right, it melts in your mouth. Melty inside, oh, my dick's getting hard. Yeah. I love it though, dude. We barely got into any personal shit, because we were just talking about Greek shit. We like, people are gonna be like, this episode sucked. We don't know anything, who cares about Greece?

Except ask him about his life. Every 10th comment, they'll just be a Greek on Ellis. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're coordinating SAC fan base. We talked about not wanting. We're doing just, we're literally doing just like it. We're performing Greek face right now. Yeah, look, I tell you, if you're aspiring Greek community,

and you see the one of us, do not target the Greek community. It's a big mistake. It's like only one million of them. They all, they can't leave the houses out there grandmother and children. You will not be a Z's unsari. No, no, no, no. A building that is not the past.

That is not the past. A building to them. Pretend to be Arab in fact. Yeah, be Arab. There's a lot more of them. past. That is not the past. Pretend to be Arab in fact. Yeah, be Arab. There's a lot more of them. Be Arab, convert to Islam. If you grow up Greek, convert to Islam, that's your ticket.

And any Greeks that do come out, they are always disappointed. They're like, well, how come not more? I know, I know. They about to evilize. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But still, how about that,

did your mother make a bestiture? Yeah. They'll come out to a regular show though, and then it's like they have to figure it out. They have to understand how it goes. No, they've been supportive, they're great. I do love them, but yeah. And the older I get the more, it's gonna, have you,

like the older I get the more like Greek I'm getting, how does that work? It's sort of, do we just become true? It's because we just give up and be like, oh, I just gotta go back to my own tribe. This doesn't work. I think you, there's only so much, there's like, there's a time, here's my general theory,

there's like a time for like exploration and like learning new shit and figuring new shit out and understanding like, you know, changing and growing. But then you realize like, okay, well, I'm not a immortal being, I can't continue to like gain knowledge and try different things. And at a certain point, you're like, okay, well, I'm not a immortal being. I can't continue to, to like, gain knowledge and try different things. And at a certain point, you're like, oh, the end of my life is starting. And so it's almost like, I am masked whatever, you know, like, my parents had no idea what

Korean barbecue was. You know what I mean? Nobody in my bloodline has ever seen Latin American nipples. You know what I mean? Like, I've gotten some knowledge that I've brought back into the, you know what I mean? And it's like, now I'm like, fuck, I'm 30, you know, I'm about to turn 35. And it's like, it's still young, don't get me wrong, obviously. But it's like, there's no more like when I grow up,

there's like, you're a grown up. And so it's like, you could be a weird guy that just travels the world and never puts down roots. But if you ever do want to put down roots, you got to be like, well, it's almost kind of how I feel about therapy. It's like you're never going to fully fix yourself. You're never going to fully become a completely different person.

There's a nice 15 year chunk of your life that you don't know is happening. That's the other thing. You don't know what's happening when it's happening. And then it's like from like, I feel like 20 to 35, I was kind of figuring out who I was, how I wanted to modify the base model that is what my parents gave birth to and raised.

And you can change it at the margins and we've all changed ourselves at the margins, but then it's like, all right man, time to come back and like figure out what to do from here. That's kind of what it feels like. Time for some slipers in a cup of oil. Yeah. You married a Greek woman.

You're going to be like mother-in-law. It's very Greek. Yeah, just. Oh, and if half Greek to get the mother-in-law is big. Oh, it's huge. That's big. You watch the one you want. A Greek that you could teach any type of guy

to perform Greek dad duties. Hit the grill, grunt races to everyone's your role. You know, set the watch every like, you know, maybe not everything's giving, but every fifth Thanksgiving something really races that kind of ruins the whole vibe, you know, like that's kind of what you want. But the Greek mother-in-law,

that's a lot of skills you can't teach. Although to be fair, I guess ethnic, that's kind of true of all. It's probably true of all, but really with mother-in-law. that's a lot of skills you can't teach. Although to be fair, I guess ethnic, that's kind of true of all. It's probably true of all, but really with mother-in-law. Cooking and taking care of the grandkids, the family, it's nice. How do you and your wife meet? We met at a Greek comedy show, actually. She's the only Greek girl I ever dated.

Wow. I have never, actually that's true. I've never dated a Greek girl. I'm like, you. And that's the thing is, now I'm like, we'll be kind of cool. You know? When I'm in Greece, I'm looking around, I'm like, am I like 5% more attracted

to the hot women here than I am anywhere else? Maybe, who knows? We'll see. The next few years, I'm like, you know, I never thought I would be with a Greek girl. I mean, she's American, right? Her mom and her family is very Greek. But she's Greek.

I mean, she's Greek. And the mom, and her family is very Greek. But she's Greek. I mean, she's Greek. And the mom, I mean, but that's also huge on the kids. If she wants to make them Greek, you guys have the raw materials. We got the raw materials to make them Greek. Yeah, instead of just an American, you're a couple generations in.

She's a generation or two in. They can get real white, real fat. Yeah. There's a lot of Greek kids from They can get real white, real fat. Yeah. There's a lot of Greek kids from the richer churches that are like, you know. No, I'm gonna have both of them are gonna Greek school. I love it.

Like I'm not fluent, they're gonna be fluent. That's cool, yeah. We're gonna do that. And it's nice. It's nice. There's some about it that's nice when your wife, like you guys understand the holidays, Kalomina, you know, it's just kinda, yeah, there is something nice to it.

And I would like, I thought I could get it. You know, you could be like, yeah. You could get it, yeah. Who should get it tell her mom? And her mom like that's what. And her mom be like, well, what did you do? Yeah, what did you do? That's what would happen.

Did you disrespect him? He's the man in the house. You know, that kinda thing. That's very comfortable. No, I'm interested, I mean, because I guess I also, maybe it really comes back down to, maybe it really comes back down to like immigrants more than anything for me. Because I could also see ending up with somebody that like is from a, has different culture,

but it's like just that strong other culture from like there's like a bland Americanness that's like it's nothing. There's no culture like white American culture and not even just white necessarily. Just like mainstream American culture, it's unfortunately it's like so homogenized where it's like what even is? Applebees.

It's like exactly, it's like and maybe it's a little regional, right? Like there's definitely New York culture, there's definitely like Southern culture, There's definitely like regional culture, but I'm just like I Don't know I feel like I need I feel like I couldn't I couldn't like I need that flavor a little sum Yeah, and a little like yes a little mental illness that comes out that comes out and like Constructive ways. Yes overcleaning Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, you know, like, someone who's around,

and also who like, there's the immigrant thing of like caring about your family, which, three, four generations into America, you kind of lose, not everybody, not everybody. That's the biggest problem. I'll just married into a nice white American family. They're great people who have very strong thoughts. That should help with the Albanian,

to calm him down. Yeah, well, I could make a kid, him down. Yeah, well, make the kid maybe normal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of like, yeah, yeah. They're cutting the Albanian with just pure white. Yeah, yeah.

You kind of need that. You can't get it. You don't want to mix something that volatile. You don't want to mix jeans that volatile with anything. It might be reactive. You want just nice, supportive white

to just kind of soak up all the toxins. You got to cut it. You got to cut it. You can't go pure uncut Albanian. You're running around the Bronx, shaking people down, like can't do that. But we have some questions. Let's get your expertise on some questions. Elda says this will tie into our conversation. Let's see what we got here, Elder. Let's see if you've actually done some good producing for once. Yo, what up, Tom Veeley, what up, what up, what up,

what up, prestigious guests? Restart it. Yo, what up, Tom Veeley, what up, what up, what up, prestigious guests? I do have a serious question and I actually do need advice. It's probably been one of the most difficult things I've had to go through in my life. Long story short, I love this woman. We've been together for about two years. She just moved away recently and we decided to put things on hold and think

a little bit. The problem is, so here you go. It could get side. I love her. I could spend the rest of my life with her for sure. It's grown actually a lot. I'm in a current life. I mean, truly across the board, I could spend the rest of my life with this woman.

I know that we would never get divorced. Truly, I truly believe that. We'll see. I'm just beautiful. She's awesome. All that good stuff. There's more problem. truly I truly believe that we'll see I'm I should be able to force you to offer them all like this stuff There's one problem I have a certain culture. I'm an Egyptian person, okay, and she is not and I'm a second generation

Air because my first my first language My culture is so important to me that I know in the future if I don't notice somebody of the same culture It's really does time my culture will fall away You know, and we'll begin the diminish now be the first one and then say two generations later. I mean That is true. We really think about the pyramids So long ago. Culture is kind of already fall away. Going to language is going.

The tradition is going. The culture is going. All of it because I made this one decision. So it feels like I'm choosing between what I want to do and what would make me happy versus something that's bigger than me. You know, and it's also instilled in me, but I do want to marry somebody who's of my culture. I'm wondering if you feel anywhere remote and close to this. You're a second generation, you guide your speech, the language, you eat the food, you cook the food, you get it. You got the holidays the culture to hang around like the

culture is everything it's truly everything so I do need some help on this also the pushing great that's big that actually could tip the scale but yeah I do need some help with this do I choose love or do I choose something greater than that all right well this choose something greater than that? All right. Well, this is love greater than you do. Hell to the point. Yeah, all right.

No, I mean, this is, I mean, there's a couple things. I'm gonna assume this woman's white, right? Like that's kind of, he didn't specify. He didn't specify. I'm kind of assuming that. Which again, means just like the means. Because her parents aren't happy. Yeah.

So it may not happen anyway. Yeah, it could cancel out. Her parents were relieved when she moved states away. Yeah. Well, they moved her. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

She's managing their bed and breakfast. So I mean, look, there's a couple things. First of all, two years moving away and being like, let's take a break, that is the first, that's an unrelated thing, but that's, you're kind of in dicey territory here. Like I guess he's, he sounds very confident, he's got that Egyptian, he's got that Arabic,

he's got that Arab-like patriarchy confidencearchy confidence, like, yeah, I mean, what's she gonna fucking marry some black guy? Yeah, fucking. Come on bro, this is the good stuff. Yeah, I got the schwannable bro. But I would be a little worried about two years and then not go, like, it's one thing if you're dating somebody casually and they move

and then it's like, well, we weren't really in a relationship. Now we're going to do long distance, but he says he's been dating her for about two years and he's like to put things on hold. Does that mean you're not dating? Does that mean like technically you're single? That's, you broke up while you figure it out. That would give me a little pause personally because that could very well be a soft breakup. The two years and the like, oftentimes when there's a break,

one party is too much of a coward to begin the breakup, and they use it as like the foot in the door, and then it's the broken window theory of like, little crack on the window, and then next thing you know that relationship is torched completely, there's hobos sucking each other off in there. Like it's brutal. Right. So that's one little minor aside, but that's not really the main thing we're talking about here. Um, yeah. I mean, this guy sounds a little, he's

sound, you saw, he's sounding a little extreme to me. He, what I'm reading the subtext. Please, she broke up with him. Okay. He's living in little extreme to me. What, I'm reading the subtext. Please. She broke up with him. Okay. He's living in this reality. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That they're gonna be together. In a couple, a year or two from now, he's gonna write back in and say,

stop, I have a problem, I murdered that girl. I don't understand why she had another family. I don't understand. We were in love I think she's broken up with him and it's very possible and maybe it's it could also be a Commitment thing like maybe she wanted a commitment and he wouldn't give it to her whatever whatever they also and look there could be This also happens where it's a little sloppy and people get back together in that after what I'm not so just something to think about here. But yes, he said a couple things like,

is it bit, this is bigger than me, this is bigger. You said a couple things like that, which is like, sounds a little jihadi to me. Yeah, there is. It's a little fundamentalist. I do have to admit, yes. Then it's like at the end of the day, you're a fucking human being.

And it's like, you know, how much happier, you're talking about this woman, like, you're certain that you're gonna, you won't get divorced. I love her, she's my best friend, I guess, all this time together. I've never felt even one quarter what this man is saying about a woman. You know what I mean?

I can kill that way, but I'm a wife. Yeah. No, I don't. No, I don't. So like to me, to me, that's that's a powerful thing, right? Like that's that's something if you really feel this way and you don't think that maybe you're being a little naive and swept up in emotion, which also happens when you're young and in love. But if you really feel that way, that merits finding out if this is someone that you can really spend your time with, I think.

And you also have to think like, what is important to me in terms of the culture? Like, I thought about this too. It's like, look, if I find somebody that's not Greek, I don't give a fuck ultimately. It's like, you wanna find somebody you love, somebody that you think is a good match for you, somebody that you wanna start a family with.

But, I will say, if I found somebody like that, and let's say I've also thought about if somebody had a different culture, it was important to them, I would wanna meet them halfway and take some basic ass language court. Take some classes, take some familiarize myself with the traditions, maybe do some of those holidays.

If you're thinking about this seriously, it merits the conversation with her of like, you don't know, dude, white women love not being white. White women love any excuse. They're favorite thing right now. They love sneaking out of being white. You know how much this, like if she's anything like a lot of the white girls I know,

you know how much it would thrill her to say, I, my child is not white. I don't feel say the next time There's a fucking police riot to be like I fear for my brown child safety. Yeah, she dude. She is she would be pumped to do that Right, there's a certain style of white woman that this is fucking you're getting them a get out of white free card Yeah, I know they have to do is take a couple Arabic lessons You know what I mean? Now I don't know how traditional you are. I don't know if you wanted to convert fully

to your religion that important. I mean I wouldn't give a fuck about Greek or something. I mean how it just needs just culture. It would be religion, it would be holidays, it would be that stuff. I wouldn't give a fuck about the church, right? So you have to figure out what your, like, you know, yes, in a perfect world when you're just not thinking

about anyone's, like, somebody that shares all your traditions. But you have to think about like, what's realistic? Where are you, are you meeting to, are you willing to meet her halfway? Are you, you know, have a conversation of like, hey, this is really important to me. Would you be interested in like putting our kid in, you know, like, definitely I want my kid

to go to Greek school if I had a kid, right? If there's some equivalent of that that you do want to raise your kids a certain way, even if she doesn't want to convert. And do you have a problem? You know what I mean? Like you have to figure out what's realistic here. And if you can kind of,

I think you can have your cake and eat it too. If things go the right way. So I wouldn't, it's not black or white, right? It's like, it is a little more, there's more gradations to that. Yeah. I also think like, how many Greek, Albanian, whatever people do, we know that like, emphasize like marrying another like Greek person, but then their kids are really just like white washed, you know?

You can like cook Greek food and part of a big community, but like how many like, you know, through and through Greek people can we think of that? Like can't even really speak Greek or something. Yeah, totally. It's gonna like happen to your kids, like you know, especially if they're like second or third generation, it's like,

even if you're with an Egyptian person, it's a great poor thing. You're not like your old school parents or something, and you know, he doesn't even really have like an accent or something. Yeah. Yeah, that shit is important to him. But how Egyptian are we talking? Like, you guys want to be buried in sarcophagus?

Yeah. I'm sure you're made of generations from that. Are you going to insist your maid be buried alive with you to keep the chambers tidy after you pass away? Yeah. She likes Egyptian Musekah, which is like planting. Yeah, she knows she can pronounce it. I mean, how Egyptian totally? She can say a couple words in Arabic, you know?

And that's a good point, I'll just like, I, even if you wish, unless you marry somebody from like off the boat, like unless you go to the motherland and find somebody, bring her back, no one's gonna do the heavy lifting to keep your culture around for your kids. That's like, especially if you stay in America, right? You're gonna have to be vigilant about it.

It's gonna take a lot of effort. And in some ways, knowing that your partner doesn't have the like, they can't rest on their laurels, they might even work harder than some people of from your background to make sure they have that, especially if it's a white woman that it makes her more interesting. You're really underestimating weaponizing how much white women don't like being Plana.

How many girls trying out they them are there right now? How many girls are all of a sudden bi because they sucked one titty their whole life, but if they saw a pussy, they'd gag, right? You got away, she can avoid all that and be more interesting by raising your, your Egyptian kids. So think about it, my friend.

Ask her a few questions. Popper the question. Are you comfortable being mummified? Yeah. That's it. That's it. Thousands of years from now, if somebody reads this incantation, are you prepared to haunt

them slowly with your arms out? Those kinds of questions. It is to the know the one big old. Good stuffy, baby. I got a small problem. So I work in office job like kind of a hybrid situation and I have like the super fucking nice boss where he has this accommodation for me where we meet in the morning so I can kind of like okay this is a shit we're doing today and there's one expecting from you and there's the thing

whatever. It's just really nice of him to do super fucking busy all day and he takes time out of his bed and make sure I'm on the right track. It's nice. The problem is the meeting is set up, I have a BBS and the meeting is set up at the exact moment every day where I nearly shit myself and I just don't know how to tell this guy. I'll be like, shitting my brains out at a exact time but five minutes before the meeting and I need to send them a text that's like, hey, I'm going to be a little late and it's so regular that I'm really just showing up late because it's like a semi-hybrid thing but no it's just that I'm kind of glued to the porcelain throne.

Yeah. You know, and I'm just wondering if there's like a code word I should use or if there's like something I should say to kind of tell them that like, you know, I'm just nature's calling, you know, I'm kind of busy. Thanks for any help you got, love you. How about fucking change your diet? I know, eat breakfast a half hour earlier. You know like your boss, your high powered boss,

who's taking a personal interest in you, and presumably a field you're interested in like, rising up through the ranks, the problem is you have to shit at the same time. What's the one thing that's is you have to shit at the same time. What's the one thing that's a little easier to move around? You shitting or his fucking completely packed schedule? Like this is crazy that you're asking this. I mean, what the- this didn't dawn on you? Dude, I- I shiver to think about the rest of this guy's life. Yeah, you can't-

you can't figure out this to love it. This guy can't go to the movies, he can't fucking do anything for more than 45 minutes at a time. I mean, dude, we're joking, but truly what the fuck? Eat breakfast earlier or later or whatever is causing this, don't have coffee. I know I be as a real thing, I've no, but like, you can hold it together for a fucking. You can, there needs to be, you need 10 minutes of your day to not shit. And you can't pull that off using all your resources. You can't keep 10 minutes shit free. That's crazy.

I will say once you get on a regular schedule, it is hard. Today I skipped my morning shit at home. I had a shit like the second I like got in here Yeah, but he's got it like I think he just needs to start like you know playing around with a shit schedule at home on the We get like you know experiment with different shits. Yeah, and yes Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, God forbid you be ever late to something else. We're not punctual You're you're you do have a very high powered boss. That's true whose time is very valuable Yeah, it's not like we can't have literal meetings while you're shitting this in this off like we're literally can hear each other's shitting in the same adjoining bathrooms But I know I know it's like hard, but it's like yeah, that's difficult, but it's like look

It's also difficult to get your boss's attention presumably in a place like this. So I mean, I'm kind of like, I don't think you're actually going to cut it in this job because if you're not, if you're too stupid to even consider that as a solution, maybe this guy has a, he's picking protégés poorly. If you're too dumb, if you're too dumb to have problems solve this yourself, that's fucking crazy. But anyway, good luck. Get some more fiber in your diet. Yeah Yeah, that's fucking insane

Bobby So I'm in a situation my I'm like I just got a prison like 17 month ago I'm in the process of getting my daughter back. But she's been there for like four years. So she's gone and really catches people. So I'm trying to get her back. So like all our sheep's primes, they just want to look at me because she doesn't know me that well and everything.

So I don't want to feel like a bad guy. But I'm trying to do everything I can to make it feel like in this situation easier. So I don't know all the questions just like, but are stay there, you know, or be cuter back. So it's a difficult because I went on the other than the one that I want to back on in my life. I don't even feel like I'm taking away from home. She's saying it for years. I don't know.

I just started watching the podcast. I don't know. I like it. It's a pretty joke. Let me know. Thank you, Bobby. podcast. I like it. It's pretty dope. Let me know. Thank you, Bobby. OK, yeah, that's tough. Janice has a take.

Go ahead, Janice. Let her stay where she is. She's safer. So, yeah, where is she? Kind of when I'm also wondering, what are we talking about here? With somebody else in an orphanage? What is it? Is she with her mom or her mom's parents? I'm gonna guess, I'm gonna guess her mom's maybe not in prison.

Yeah, maybe her mom's not whatever, like, so it depends, I mean, it really depends here, right? Where it's like, it also depends what he did, right? Yeah. To go to prison, like, if he did some tax fraud, right, maybe make her understand, and I was just to prison, if he did some tax fraud, maybe make her understand, and I was just trying to give you a better life.

But if you had tried to kill a guy or whatever, I mean, look, maybe you go, hey, baby, I can understand why you don't wanna come out. Yeah, yeah, totally. For everybody's like, she's been there four years, that's not, he probably didn't. Nothing crazy. Nothing crazy.

But it is good because he, the fact that, the fact that you are even thinking about this is actually shows some self awareness and empathy for a situation where it's like, and it would be very natural for you to be like, fuck that, that's my kid, I want my kid. So the fact that you're even considering like, is this, like, should she stay there, like whatever.

And I think you also have to be honest with yourself, right? We don't really know the answer to this because the answer to me I think is, if you are really ready to provide a stable situation for your daughter, whatever's in your past is behind you and you're really working on your shit, and you trust yourself to not fuck up again. And I'm not even saying go into prison,

but just like, you know, we're all irresponsible people here. Like, I know I'm not, you know, if I had had a kid and believe me, I was eligible to have a kid a couple times, and we dodged a couple bullets. And if I had had a kid, I can't, just my lifestyle would not have been conducive to having a kid.

I know I'm not ready. And if somebody was like, do you want me to raise the kid or do you want to live with you, I would have been like, let it live with you. I'm fucking God, I don't have, I don't live anywhere. I'm going every weekend. I have, this is the only chance, you know, the Illuminati don't give you a chance

to show business more than once. I have to take advantage of this. So it's like, I'm not even being judgmental about your situation, but I'm saying like, be honest about, you know, what you're able to provide for right now. To me, not knowing the particulars of the situation, I would say you're probably better off kind of looking at this long term, right? I don't know how old your daughter is exactly since she's been there for four years I don't know if she's like five six whatever if she's literally forced and she's been you know

She's probably a little older than that if she if you had some kind of relationship before that but Just off what I'm hearing right now. I think It's you're better off Kind of earning back that relationship with her because you did. You know what I mean? Like she, you did, we all make mistakes, but one of the, you know, probably worse than going to prison

for you is like losing your daughter's trust. Like that probably feels way worse than just fucking being in jail or whatever. So I think the answer here is like, yeah dude, ease into it, earn back what you lost, because you made a mistake, whatever the fuck. Get her to the point where it's like, she's not, you know, she's not crying, it doesn't make you feel

like a bad guy, you have a real relationship with her, she knows you're somebody she can trust again and like maybe move into like, visitation and visits and like weekends and then a week here and there. And like, I think it's, it makes a lot more sense to you, you also want to feel secure so that you can really provide for her. And then it's like, figure out what makes sense. I think it's more of a transition thing than a like all or nothing thing here for her.

And it's because it's probably not healthy for her to be kind of going back and forth and let's say God forbid something happened and you're just like, you have to, you know, what I just like, even if it's just like, you have to work a ton, right? So I'm sure like this country doesn't treat phones very well, right? It's not like you're going to get a job with a lot of PTO, right? Like right out of the gate, like whatever whatever it is, you wanna feel fucking secure that you can provide something good for, and I think that's my hunch.

It's kind of easy into it. Get a real relationship with her. Be somebody that matters in her life. Somebody that can help provide for her. That's like there for her, go to her fucking recitals, her games, all this shit, earn that back to the point where you're somebody she wants to be around, and all this shit, earn that back to the point where you're somebody she wants to be around and you're somebody

that can support her to the point where you're not even having, if you're thinking is she better off where she is, she might be. You know what I mean? Like, if that's even something you're thinking about. So like make it undeniable that it's not and then ease into it when you feel comfortable, when she feels comfortable, and I think it's probably gonna be a lot healthier for her.

But that is damn good advice. I just don't know the lernus for that's good. Yeah, like that's, yeah. Sounds like you say, sounds like a good guy, he's wons her back. Totally. Thinking long term. You gotta think long term,

because it's not about the next year, I'm sure it would feel nice for you to snap your fingers and your daughter just is stoked to see you right now But you got to think about her at 20 you know what I mean? You used to do a time just do some time. Yeah, yeah, do some time. Yeah, yeah Yeah, cuz you want you want her to be nice guys like Janice's father not yonness That's right me like me girls like this end up hanging out with guys like me for that isn't chill. You don't want her.

You don't want her hanging around the comedy show at 2am. Some fat guy, you know, 10 years older, her's like, yeah, I guess you can come back to the hotel, whatever. Never gonna talk to her again. You know what I mean? You know, you want a better life for her. That's all I'm saying. This gets me in the field, though, because I got a daughter, so I feel this guy.

I think, I actually think your advice was, like, Dr. Phil Good. Thanks, man. I was like, yeah, just ease in, which she doesn't really know you because she's obviously really young, right? Totally. So that's what he says.

She doesn't really know him. So, little by little, just, you know, I'm, tell her, hey, you could stay with you. I'm like, you know, I don't need, I just want to come see you. Just have a combo with her. It gets slow. I'm your dad, you know what I say, I'm like, you know, I don't need, just want to come see you. Just have a combo with her, get slow, I'm your dad, you know what I mean? Yeah.

Yeah, you'll get there, buddy. You'll get there. But it's good that you're even thinking about it and you're not being like a fucking dickhead, like I need my fucking daughter, I don't give a fuck. So you're on the right path. Hopefully he called in pretty recently, Eldest, that's not like a call from four months ago

and we see something used, like a call from four months ago. We see something used, like a guy's broken into an orphanage, she's abducted his daughter, the other man hunt on for right now. That actually was pretty recent, that was a week ago. Okay, great, so hold on, another couple weeks back. Yeah, you know, people like that don't do anything drastic during the holidays when they're feeling lonely. Come on buddy, make it like 10 days. He was waiting last episode in an air, he's like, fuck it.

Yeah. I was waiting for Stavini to talk with the dude. I'm gonna get him. Give me the kid. Give me the kid, nobody gets hurt. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I caught twice already, but I fucked it up both times. So let's get the stories straight right now. Here's what happened. We have a group of friends, mixed gender. We have both females and males in this friend group,

and we're all pretty tight, close to net, I'd say. But the problem is I went ahead and fucked pretty much like the ugliest group. And what I really fucked up is I let her out. I'm assuming you're the ugliest guy in the group. We're a real tight knit group. Anyway, I fucked this fucking slam pig that we let hang out.

Anyway, go ahead, Fred. We're all really good friends. We all really like each other. But this will to be sucked by cop. And I'm trying to fuck, I'm going to guess where this goes. And I'm trying to fuck the hotter looking horse in this group, who I respect again. Let me make that clear.

Anyway, all right, well, you fucking within your friend group. I mean, I just think this is one of those cases where the dude has no self-awareness about how he looks. It's very possible. Yeah, let's just pick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love, let's see where we can glean, because I just wanted to highlight that, because my guess, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah whatever but we spent three hours cuddling in bed the next day you did that now you know she got feelings and I don't want to like this is dude I don't know what happened I took out a fishing rod I put a worm on it I put it in the water and now this fucking fish is on my rod and what do I got to

do like you acted exactly how somebody who likes somebody acts. You're the dickhead. Again, I think he's ashamed that he likes this girl and his friends may not think that she's like, it's very, that happens a lot with young guys. It's like, because that's another pro, there's another fat phobic issue in this country. Plenty of girls, guys like big girls,

but they're afraid or even girls who aren't cute but aren't traditionally attractive young guys oftentimes like are worried about what their stupid boys are gonna say so that if that's that's one possibly let's I'll stop interrupting him let's just finish it sorry eat her on and I don't want to be a huge asshole to her because then it'll reflect on like the whole friend group my loosen friends over this so my Question is how do you make a woman's subtly hate you without making the whole friend group hate you? That's the big question because I don't want everyone to hate I don't want to just like blow it off And then I'm out of the friend group, you know, I just want to be like hey

This one person hates me, but like that's okay cuz we're all still friends So how like suddenly make you want to be the fucking three hours you like Outroing a friendship of the whole group I love you, bro. Thank you. Yeah, I mean this is textbook exactly how these friend groups get ruined I mean this is just pure early 20s like works on television. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So much of friends would not be possible. No. Didn't like Joey fuck Rachel first a part of it?

Yeah, and Chandler was doing drugs. And it, yeah, yeah, I think you're thinking of a masquerade. It's a very strong guy. Yeah, it's just, that's the real story. One of them likes pills. So, look dude, you're, again, I think Janice, I think you're completely spot on here where it's like, he's a little in denial about his own feelings potentially.

And now he's trying to flip this into a larger thing of like, well, I don't want to ruin the whole group. Like you have to, what do you feel? That's first and foremost. And what do you look like? I want to see it. Right, right, right, right. Send a picture for another episode. What do you feel? That's first and foremost. And what do you look like? I want to see it. Right, right, right. Send a picture for another episode.

Yeah, he should send this picture of every one of us. I want to see what this guy looks like. That's true. We need to start doing that in select cases. That's what I love the lot. We start experimenting with live calls and some people started sending us like pictures. It's fun to be able to get like more context here. But I will say this is a

cl- but again, this is a classic way of how these like early 20s mixed grew like these always end because somebody fucks somebody and either one person catch feelings and one person does it or they end in love triangles or like almost never. The only time it ever works out is if two people start fucking and then they end are like almost never. The only time it ever works out is if two people start fucking and then they end up like actually being good together and then that actually strengthens the group. When there's like a strong couple in the group, then they kinda act as the group mom and dad

and they can kinda like adjudicate issues and all this kinda shit. You're not in that situation whatsoever. You need to understand, so you don't, if you're being honest with us and you really don't feel anything for this girl, then you just need to, you need to just say that, need to be a good guy, and that's the closest thing, that's the only thing that could potentially save the group. You'll probably have to take a breather for a little bit. You'll probably have to like, this, you like, chill a little bit, just chill with the guys a little bit or like whoever you're closer to.

Maybe you might have to skip out on a couple group hangs and then slowly, or even just tell her like, hey look, I really like as a person, I got caught up, you know, we had some chemistry, but I think like it's not, I don't really want anything serious, but I value as a friend. Is there anything I can do to like maintain that relationship? If you need me to go away for a little bit, I can do that. But she might just be like, fuck you. Like you let me on. You were being, you were saying sweet.

You wrote me poems. You know what I mean? And like you got me. Yeah, three hour cuddle. Jesus. The three hour cuddle next to me. Somebody's having a good time. Not just her. You were having a good time not just her you were having a good time

Yeah, exactly. There's one rip-cord emergency solution here. Okay. It's not scrupulous. Yeah, please Yeah, you know, we have to give them all their options. Yeah, here's an option you say I realize them gay So you gotta pretend to be gay for a little while. That's true, just one feeling's we're off. Right. And then you come back out and say, I've rethought it. I'm by, yeah, by, and then he's back in a strip. Yep, he's back in a strip. By that time she's forgotten it and, you know,

you give her that talk and she of course is understanding. Right, right. I'm gay, I'm gay, I'm gay. I'm gay, so. I had a great time with you, but that was the cuddling was back. And that's what the cuddling was about. The cuddling was about the emotional availability. the best time during that for me was the talking And that's why yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true

Those are your two options and because you cuddle for three hours. I suspect that it might be true anyway It's certainly not off the board. It's certainly within the realm of possibilities So yeah, dude either clear open honest communication or an even larger lie, a larger, completely like a life-defining lie. Sometimes if you're already in, you gotta go all the way. How much do you like watching football with these people? How much do you like hitting the bars with these six people? Um, all right. Good solution. Good luck, buddy. Good luck, little bud. Stubby baby, how we doing? Elvis, what's up? Gast, what's going on? Question today, I am, uh, a dude 32 years old and with my current partner for over four years now and he's the same age as me. And her best friend just gave birth a couple months

back and just found out a few weeks ago her older sister is also pregnant and she is getting that baby fever. We were just away with her family and told her dad about the pregnancy and then her and I had a huge fight that night over it and I have always been staunchly against having kids by parents for a really good job of fucking me up. And I don't really want to pass any of that trauma along or anything. At the same time, I had both an aunt and an uncle who were wonderful to me.

And we're essentially my second parents. And they don't have kids. And I was really always looked at that as the role I would play and my family and my friends' lives. I'm not sure what exactly to do. We've talked about it. She's not 100% convinced. She wants kids, but it definitely seems

to be leading that way more and more. What was it? I was getting on the page and all her friends and family making that choice uh... my mind is not wavered in the slightest that the small desire uh... maybe save this question for a guest who does have kids and they get there as well thanks a lot of the show

well i mean whole i would say hold the line, my brother. This is tough. This is the toughest time. Well, then again, once they're born, they're cute as fuck. You can introduce her to this podcast and just have her listen to that. And then she'll be like, if I want to have kids,

you're not the guy. Yeah. Right. Well, that's true. I mean, that is the, that's really what a fundamentally comes down to. It's like, you clearly don't want kids, clearly. And you know what, good for you for being open

and honest about it, and hopefully you were this open and honest at the beginning of the relationship, as soon as it came up, because if you've been honest about this and that person you, this is how you felt, that it's like a red line for you, no kids. And it's like, he's even like, he's not even one of these weirdos that are like, I hate kids. Those people freak me out. He's a guy who's got a reasonable look at it. He's like, look, for my own reasons, I don't want

kids. I like being in kids lives. I want to be a very supportive uncle. And that's why I'm also over the like 50, 50 in my personally where it's like, I could go either way because people my, you know, he'll have kids some point. My, my brothers are, you know, at least one of my brothers is gonna have kids. My friends, my cousins, whatever. I love the idea of being the uncle. And if I were to be with a woman who's like,

I never, if I were the woman equivalent of this guy, I'd be like, I'd be great with that. I'd be like, cool. Takes a lot of, my life's gonna be easier. I'll tell you that much. Everyone has kids,, cool. Takes a lot of my life's gonna be easier. I'll tell you that much. Everyone has kids. It seems like a bit of a headache, right? Yeah.

But then again, if I were to be with somebody who was like, I 100% want to have kids, it's like, you could probably talk me into it, right? But that's, he is the like, I'm having fucking kids. And your girl seems to be of the like, waffling person, but it also sounds like, she might have even, at some point been like, I definitely don't want kids. Because I've definitely had friends who are like,

I don't want kids and then they get a little up there and this exact same thing happens and like, I'm even soft in my own stance seeing, you know, like you meet babies as you age, but seeing a baby you care about, seeing like your best friend's baby or your fucking nephew or something, you're like, oh, I get it.

You wanna care for this thing. So, if you know, you don't want, you have to suck out whether she's serious about this. And if she is, you guys gotta get fucking break up and the sooner the better. If you're in your 30s, like, she's on a clock and you're not. So it's like, don't do that to her. You're trying to run out the clock.

And the more you fucking run it out, the older she gets, the harder it gets. It sucks for women that part, it's brutal. Did you know you wanna have kids you're holding a little time? No, no. I never even thought that far. No, no, no.

It wasn't, you weren't anti, you just didn't think about it. I wasn't anti, I just didn't think about it. Yeah, and Yeah, it having kids is great. Yeah, it's like a nature takes over It's not like a so I think yeah, I don't know what happened to this kid right so he said his parents messed them up I'm not sure they were in a cult or the Parents fucked them a bunch That'll do it You have three ways with your parents.

You're probably not gonna wanna be a parent yourself. So in that case, I can understand, yeah. Other than that, I mean, anyone who has kids, I think if your parents didn't fuck you a bunch, I think it's the greatest. You know what I compare it to? It's like starting comedy. Remember how brutal that was to climb up?

But you didn't really kind of notice because you loved it so much. And you were just in the zone and your whole life was about it. Right, right, right. Like you wouldn't do it again if you thought about it, like, I gotta do that again.

So it's like that with being a parent. Like it's hard, it's tough, but you love the kids so much that you barely notice how hard it is. And then the challenges become different in their less time consuming, even though like, and hopefully it pays off and you don't have a fucking piece of shit kid.

How you doing, you think you're doing good? No piece of shit. I think I'm doing good. How many kids? Two rights? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The love you feel for your kids is a new thing. It changes you, it softens you.

It, especially I think when you, you have daughters. It's like a, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just all the asshole parts of you. You start rethinking and you're like, whoa, a woman I respect. Yeah. You're like, this is strange. I care about, I think so for she's smart.

And I want her to do well and I don't want to take advantage of her. Yeah, this is a new feeling for me. Totally. Yeah, you know what, this is like fuck you, get out of here. But anything I thought, yeah. So yeah dude, good luck with this. I mean, but this is just like a, you have to, I think you have to deal with this head on and you have to be realistic about it

and she has to be realistic about it too. Cause to your credit, you've been staunchly anti this. And if it comes up again, you might have to really be like, hey, if you want kids, we can't beat, I'm not the guy for you. And that sucks because you, it sounds like you have a great relationship, you've been together for a while and that's really brutal for you.

I can see him feeling like, Crestfallen because he's like, hey, I told you I don't want kids. I was building my life with you. And then all of a sudden you just like, turn, because you saw so. That's a good point, actually. Yeah.

I feel bad for you too, if she's flipped on you. Now, if you weren't ever this open about it, and you were like, oh yeah, we'll see, you're kind of a dickhead too, but either way, this is something you guys have, because you know what your stances, you definitely don't want kids. You need to figure this out soon rather than later,

and that's really hard, and that could be fucking very sad. You're also 32. You probably thought you were done, and now you gotta get back out there. That's brutal, man. That're also 32. You probably thought you were done. And now you got to get back out there. That's brutal, man. That's really tough. But, you know, for a guy 32, it's your job. Yeah, you can. Unless you gave up. Unless you're in a husband mode. And then all of a sudden, you're like, oh, no, I'm fucking fat. I'm shit. I'm bald. I know I haven't gotten pussy in eight years. For when does stranger. How am I gonna do this?

They just have to kiddo. Yeah. All right. Two cost benefit analysis. Good luck little buddy. Oh, we're getting some good questions here. I'll just very good job of producing my friends. Daddy, what up dog? What up, all this? Just started listening to the podcast a couple

weeks ago. Really enjoying it guys. I didn't get a question. I wanted to kind of see how you guys feel about it. So, man, I fucking... Can you pause for a second? Basically... Definitely a black guy that grew up around white guys. Just wanted to put that out. Let's keep my ear out for more hints of that. Like work on stuff in water treatment equipment all day,

water softener, water purification systems, ice makers, shit like that. And you know, man, I really find that at the end of the day, I'm not a big drinker, but I do like fucking sit and down with the join at either the name in. Got a daughter, been married for fucking forever. I just feel like married for five years with this big girl from Paisley. Oh, Paisley.

I just sometimes feel like a piece of shit. And I don't know why, man. Come on, come on. I'm always smoking it. I don't really think that's what I'm talking about. For smoking weed, the cheese is nice. I can be getting a bunch of pressure at home or anything, but I don't know, man. I live in Indiana, so it's not legal here.

I have to go to Michigan to get it. And that's not really it either. I just find myself lately kind of just like, someone can piece a shit for smoking, but also at the same time, like I don't want to stop. I enjoy it. It helps me relax at the end of the night. I just... Wait a second. I don't want to stop. I enjoy it. It helps me relax at the end of the night. I just, wait a second.

I don't know, man. I wanted to know if you ever kind of like, with prop it up like this. I'm like, again, I enjoy the podcast. Keep it up guys. Yeah, I'm sort of think Black Eye, not only didn't grow up around my people, but like adopted by a white family.

Yeah, probably. Like adopted by a like a white evangelical family. You have like such serious, guilty issues here. Like this, your problem is I enjoy something and I feel bad about it. And it's like, no dude, just enjoy it. His wife smokes weed.

Like no one in your family is pressing you. You're just, this feels like there is some nebulous, like, you know, somebody punishing you but you feel like you're not good enough. Like this does feel like guilt, religious guilt stuff going on here. It's not legal. Oh, okay, now we got, now the criminal,

the US criminal justice system tells us what's right and what's wrong. Come on, dude, fuck that. Wheat is, who gives the fuck about weed? It's not as bad as alcohol. You're, yeah. It's literally better than alcohol. You're better off having a joint, you joint, smoking half a joint every night, then you are fucking

polishing off a six pack every fucking night. It's not your problem, dude. Your problem is you live in Indiana. That's the problem. Totally. Can you move somewhere, it's legal, but I'm more in, so let's just very quickly say there's no problem here. You should feel good about this you work hard You've you've been in a relationship with the same woman. You're very happy like you're a good dad

You have a good job like you more than deserve to smoke a little weed at the end of the day And what I'm more curious about is like I think you need to examine why you feel this way Like what is it that's making you feel guilty? Do you have a problem? Do you like not? Are you never able to feel pleasure? Like, are you a, are you uptight in certain ways? Like, there's something there that I think is a key

to just kind of understanding yourself better and knowing things that are, you're probably robbing yourself of happiness in Allah. This is probably not the only facet of his life where he's kind of like over intellectualizing his own happiness or like not letting himself enjoy something because I know that feeling too. It's like I'm trying to work on that

and I'm trying to be more present and enjoy, enjoy the little things and stuff like that. It's okay to work hard as fuck and just be like I cannot wait to go home, fucking smoke a joint and pass out. Like that's, after a hard day's work, that's fucking nice, dude. And so it's like, why don't you let yourself feel good shit?

Are you happy in every other aspect of your life? Are you repressed in some other aspects of your life? Like there's a little, there's a little self-reflection I think you need to do here. Cause every reason you're, you have given no reason other than it's not technically legal, which is bullshit. Come on, man, let's be honest.

I will say and that someone who's like, you know, smokes weed a pretty good amount. Like, you know, it's crazy when you're an adult, you look back on your life like after high school, after college or whatever, and it's like, have I gone a week or more without like getting fucked up without getting really drunk or without like getting higher, something. Right. And when you kind of look at it in the big picture like that, there is something to like, okay, well, is it like normal to just like go that long or something like

With without with that anytime like getting fucked up, which I mean the point is really what you were saying stuff Which is like you know if you do have something that's like you know nagging at you about like your weed use like yeah, it is it is worth like looking at it Maybe saving it. Yeah, maybe maybe even taking a step away for a month or whatever you want to do just to see how you feel and see if there's a difference or something. It's worth trying something like that. Or, like, I agree.

But I think the key thing here is it's not affecting his life. It's not affecting his family, it's not affecting his job. It's not affecting anything. He enjoys it, right? Like I definitely currently feel like weed is partially ruining my life and I need to stop. I've been fucked up every day for I don't know how long, right? Like I've smoked a little weed pretty much every day since she got very stressful around here and I just used it as a pure coping mechanism. I'm just using it as drugs.

It is not good. It is fucked my life up a little bit, but I just need to relax. I want to turn my brain off so I get fucked up every night, right? I need to stop that. I know that. But that's a different situation that this guy is up against, right? And there's definitely been times in my life where I feel like weed is really working for me in that way.

It's like, oh oh just chill out, smoke a joint and like watch a basketball game go to bed whatever. So you know, as long as it actually isn't fucking your life up then yeah dude, as long as this is the only thing you're worried about there's no reason. But if you ever want to take a little break that's healthy too like you just need to know it's whatever makes you feel good here. As it's whatever makes you feel good here. And within, and whatever makes you feel good and doesn't fuck your life up. The second it starts fucking your life up, then some of that guilt is warranted and maybe

you should take a step back. But for now, you're good, bro. You ever have any kind of, you really get in there with anything? No, and it substance really gets insinu. Weed's no good for me me because I need to think less. So we somehow react to me. You're not smoking. You got to break on through to smoke more.

Yeah, that's what you're thinking. You got to break the sound barrier. There's a lot of noise and then you're like, and then it's like, you don't even have a brain. You're like, oh, I love when they kill, when they're killing the guy that killed his wife. I hope he catches the guy who killed his wife and gets revenge.

And then you get to watch the worst action movie you've ever seen, and it feels like you're watching, you know, Good Fellows for the first time. That's what you got to do, brother. How are we doing on time, O? There's one more, what do you think? We're at 140. Oh, it's flying by, what a fucking episode, oh there's one more what do you think we're at 140 oh it's flying by what a fucking episode

Let's do one more yacht. You have anything you want to plug to the people before we do our oh yeah our ultimate Question here come see me on the road if you if you like to YannisPapas comedy dot com for tickets. I'm in a bunch of cities and my podcast the Yannis Pappas hour check it out I love it check it out Ghosty Yannis Pappas Hour. Check it out. I love it. Check it out. Ghosty Yannis on the road. We're off the road. So, Ghosty, this is a perfect time where we don't have any, we're not plugging, although I guess, I guess we should plug the fucking makeup dates. We had to make, I got COVID, fucking embarrassingly. I got COVID like four weeks ago. So, we have to make up what is it Detroit, Grand Rapids in Dallas. We'll probably put ads at the beginning of the thing too. We'll plug your shit at the beginning too. But yeah, thank you. Go see Janus. Watch, listen to the pod. Um,

five, you can watch my special on YouTube. Yeah, watch that. That's good shit, baby. Um, all right, I'll just, let's see. Will L this blow, this is one of the favorite parts of the episode where it's like I tell, sorry, man, and with a good one, and he blows it, I would say 60% of the time. So let's see what we got. Hey, stop. I call earlier. That's true.

Well, that's it, mate, which you want. Someone try to make this more concise. So long story short, I am 38, and I've been seeing a girl who I was under the assumption was in my age group for about six months Of course it's coming up and hey, man work on that when you have to talk to the judge That wasn't very Didn't work We're kind of breeze past it under the assumption. I would talk to lawyer about the exact language

about the exact language. Absolutely. Did it by one second. Oh, yeah. For that amount of time, you didn't know. You didn't know when she picked up a cartoon, a coloring book. Did it tip you off? But she couldn't order alcohol.

All right, let's see what we got here, Eld. In my age group for about six months, her birthday is coming up, and I recently just found out that she is 24, not in her 30s, like I thought she was, which not necessarily a huge deal breaker, but the main problem is that I was very clear that I thought she was in my age group and she never really thought to correct me.

What do you mean, Madam? So I don't know if that's a deal breaker or if I should be doing her. Did she know or did we do like this girl, but that's a big clear. I referenced Jen's Gen X. I was talking about pavement and watching the Terminator in theaters.

Like what do you mean you were very clear? Like that's the thing, were you clear? Did you ever say you're 35, right? Also like damn, what the fuck does this bitch look like? Do you think she's like, do you think she was the hottest 30, like five-year-old ever? You have great skin. Yeah.

Also six months, and you never figured out your girlfriend's age, that's great. Like one month max where it does, you don't figure it out. You're just not a very observant person or like a good boyfriend and fucking stupid you're a fucking dumbass dude you're a fucking idiot dude all right anyway let's let's see what he's asking us here here or if I should keep seeing her

uh... just like you like this girl but that does seem like a weird thing to lie about for a month it's month about or I guess not much very lie But you know, I'm not a mission when I mentioned several times that What that this commentator has come up before so I would love your Opinion this Hey, then I'm not clear on the I'm not yeah, I'm not clear on what do you mean she she just let you believe she was in her 30s. I don't get

Anyway, whatever let's say that's the case. I this feels more like this guy is trying to Completely absolve himself of the guilt of being in the age gap relationship. Yeah, maybe he's really dating a 16 year-old or big news really date the sixteen year old is trying to get a feeler for her out of the out of word it yeah yeah let's say she was twenty four yeah because it's so yeah yeah this is this is how would you phrase it is dipping his toes in the water yeah i'm just i'm a little confused to be completely honest here where I'm just like, cause it's also weird to be like,

hey, the problem isn't that she's 14 years younger than me. The problem is she lied to me. Like that's what's weird to me. It's like, he doesn't really seem to care about, which again, it's like, the thing about, it's just like, it's not illegal or it just could be a little weird, 38 and 24 is kind of, you know, that's a bit, once we're, you know, you know what though, like imagine your 38, which we basically are for

all intents and purposes, it's like, yeah, I guess you're right. It's like what I did a 24 year old You would try to fuck or even date like a 24 year old for sure would 25 Academically my cutoff would probably be 25, but then you hit it over the 24 year You're like wow, yeah, basically 20 The point is like you wouldn't give a fuck. I wouldn't give a fuck of course But it's like there's something weird about like that being withheld from you that you're like That's the part. How did this never get through?

They're both Clearly adults there's not right issue right right the lying part, but I'm not clear I'm not clear and like and how did she lie and like how did you not know for six months? Like I unless she was trying to mislead you and then why would she mislead you? Because it's like here's the thing when you get younger women they love making fun of you for being old. Yeah. One of their favorite moves. I've experienced it many times, right? How did you not pick up on the fact she didn't know who Pearl Jam was? Yeah.

Like there should have been clues along the way. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Um, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I don't know, man, unless she's like the talented Mrs. Ripley and just like, yeah, is she a lot more? Is she a liar? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is she like a,

but why would she, I just don't understand? Are there any other warning signs about her that make you pause and like, is this like the beginning of like, oh wait, she also did this like weird thing. That's actually a great point. Yeah, that's actually great. You know, I feel like, think about like why she would wanna

withhold this for this long or something or like, not be clear or think about why like you're a dumbass and like to piggyback off that, what you're basically saying and that's a good point is like, because of this, did you think of other stuff and go, oh, she also. Is it a Kaiser Sozi type situation? It all starts to come together. We're like, wait.

Wait, her name's not that, and she does have a dick, and I didn't know this. She doesn't have an apartment or a home. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've never been to her place. Like a guy. Yeah, she's married. She's married.

Like that, you know, that's true. That's definitely, I've had friends who like, that kind of shit just happened to her. Like one innocuous lie is like, you pull it to thread and then it's like, he has a second family. That's always a wild moment too. And you're like, oh wait. Yeah, he's been living with his fiance.

And it's like, oh, he doesn't travel for work. He just can never take me to his house. Yeah, because he's married. So yeah, I mean, I just need a little, the problem with this one is we need a lot of context. Like where'd you meet? I'm guessing an app, but then apps actually list the age, so probably not.

Did you meet with like friends, like, and nobody took it, like I just, I need a little bit. He's like, well, we met, I was actually her two to eight years ago. I was actually her two to 10 years ago, and we've kept in touch. I don't know, dude. I need a little more context here, unfortunately. Now, Eldest didn't blow it because we did get

a nice couple of jokes off. So you did a good job, Elvis. But I do, this is a guy that I love to talk to actually on a real, unlike a calling episode. Subscribe to the Patreon, and join the live call on episode on the Chinese Roll Discord. Subscribe to the Patreon, you're a 38 year old man. We'll get to the bottom.

You can afford it, you can afford five bucks a month, and we'll get to the bottom of this. But keep me posted on this one, I'm curious. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. four or five bucks a month and we'll get to the bottom of this. But keep me posted on this one. I'm curious. Yeah. It's a cliffhanger. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sorry to end the ep on a cliffhanger folks that will, let's be honest, probably

never be resolved. Yeah. But thank you. A beautiful new year to everyone. May this be a year of triumph for everyone in the Stavis World family. Thanks. Thank you for coming, my friends. Thank you. Great episode.

And we will see you guys next time. Bye-bye. you