Stavvy's World - #76 - Page Kennedy

Episode Date: May 13, 2024

Page Kennedy joins the pod to discuss the myriad bangers he’s starred in including ‘The Meg,’ ‘Meg 2’ and ‘Leprechaun: Back 2 Tha Hood’ (just to name a few!), the perfect role that he was turned down for, the scene he did with Nikolaj Coster-Waldau that audiences hated so much that it had to be removed from the movie, why his name wouldn’t make the press release if he was in a bus crash with Samuel Jackson and Colin Farrell, and much more. Page and Stav help callers including a woman dating a guy who tried to pass off someone else’s art as his own, and a mother whose disdain is growing for her misbehaved middle school son. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code STAVVY for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. More info at https://www.gametime.co/ Listen to Page Kennedy’s album ‘A Book of Pages’: https://empire.ffm.to/abookofpages Follow Page Kennedy on social media: https://linktr.ee/pagekennedy https://www.instagram.com/pagekennedy https://twitter.com/PageKennedy https://www.tiktok.com/@pagekennedy Unlock exclusive, Patreon-only episodes at https://www.patreon.com/stavvysworld Wanna be part of the show? Call 904-800-STAV and leave a voicemail to get advice!

Welcome everybody to Stavisworld 904 800 stuff. Call in, we'll solve your problems. Very happy to have on the pod, on the couch today, Paige Kennedy. Dude, thank you so much for coming. Hey man, thank you for having me, brother. I appreciate it. Yeah, absolutely. No, I love it.

We do a lot of standups here. It's cool to get, you've had an accomplished, obviously, you know, actor, rapper, all that stuff. But truly the way to the quickest way on this podcast is to be in a movie where a guy kills a shark with a samurai sword. My love, literally, we started chat, we started DMing on Instagram, because we just talked about the Meg on here. And I was like, I was telling elders how I got fucked up and watch

The Meg and then you were on it you were in it and then you DM me you're like, dude I love it. I love it I love it. I love it. The big sharks Yes, if you've been in Trashy action movies you are welcome on this podcast I want that no and I want that on record and I want to say I you know Let's start with some I liked it in Meg too. They got you out there too They got you killing shit because in the first make you were they had they had you in that you were the fucking tech guy Yeah, man, the voice of what the audience? Yeah, the audience is like no. Yeah

You were the Greek chorus of the Meg Then it was like yeah Yeah, kind of weird than I had a black guy know how to swim Well, it was it was yeah it was funny because I felt like they they tried to like Trick like flip the trope of like the jack black dude is actually guess what he knows computers this time He doesn't and then on the second one. They're like nah, he's gonna kill shit cuz I feel like usually on the action like the second one where

they take like a secondary character and put them in the action it's funny because it's usually a computer dork but it's like you just made more sense to be out there to begin with but they had you in like a look you know glasses and a polo right but it was great love it yeah I mean listen bro when they when because before before they started like I had like I was in the gym. Yeah, I was sitting in. Yeah, you were like they're like we want you for an action movie. So you're like, I'm doing steroids.

I'm going full. I'm going full Kumail Nanjiani in the Marvel universe. Right. Shout out to Kumail. We got jacked this shit. We'd love to have you on Kumail if you're listening. But yeah, come on, dude. Whoa. How did I get here? And why do i have the sudden urge to tell you about my favorite ticketing app game time that's right game time folks take the guesswork out of buying

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Yeah, so they fix it and so when I saw, you know, and you know what the crazy part about it is? You guys see, I don't know, maybe like five, six, seven renditions of what it was before. Totally. I did other, like even more cool shit before. Oh really? Yeah, they couldn't, you know? You know me I was doing too much

Was cool as hell to to get in the script and then to see me be able to Kick ass yeah, and still be funny was that your first like action straight action role cuz I mean like I know you from like well it was funny cuz I realized like all this shit you're like a classic like character actor in that when you dive in you're like oh this motherfucker's been in a ton of shit right you know where it's like cuz like I didn't even realize I was a big weeds guy oh you know when I was in college cuz I was a I was a weed guy it was still weeds came out when weed was illegal yeah it's funny I've become an old guy where I'm like kids. I don't know if you know You could you had to buy weed from the most annoying got white guy with dreads

You've ever met in your life back when I was in college But I just remember watching and I was like, oh fuck he was in Yeah, you're in we and so but I do feel like you it edged it like more comedic like Blue Mountain State also Another one why no mom state. Oh my brother loves Look like you walk in a room with other motherfuckers watching and you like oh, no, no, I'm watching But I mean I loved it and also another connection to to trashy action the man who plays Reacher Was simple you're in oh, yeah, you have the connection like the can you? He's like the fucking biggest thing in the world now. Let's get you in Reacher season three, bro.

Man. Let's get you, let's get another Blue Mountain State alum in Reacher season three, dude. Yeah, get me on there. Come on, Alex. I auditioned for season two and y'all went with an old ass white man. So y'all got a chance to make this shit up in season three.

What were you auditioning for, bro, do you remember? It was one of the villains that they hired, like, a 55-year-old white man. Well, they hired Robert Patrick from... The main villain was the Robert Patrick from Terminator. Oh, maybe that was it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, man. That's a better get. No disrespect. You gotta get the Terminator, the guy from Terminator 2, bro. I love you, but Jimmy Robert Patrick is the main guy. Very good. Very good. And you know, they do that a lot, so...

I mean, I've auditioned... The only Marvel thing I ever auditioned for was in... I don't know if I should even actually say it, but a much more accomplished comedian got it. Like, a much funnier, more talented person got it, and I was like, alright. Was he kinda like you? No, not at all. Oh. That's the thing if it was a fat white guy would've been pissed off It was it was I mean it was I'll just say it was whatever just a better-looking Funnier guy, you know, we're gonna get it. You never It's funny cuz you get it you get a big I mean, I'm not an actor I mean, I'm trying to get into it, but you get a big audition like that and immediately you're like

What do you get? I'm not getting the fucking Marvel movie. They're gonna find my pot the second I get cast It's a Disney thing. They're gonna find all the dog I have hundreds of hours of fucked up shit that I've that I've not really said but laughed at I'm a big laugher It's fucked up shit. I was like, I'm not getting this and so I just did it real quick And then they were like my even my agent was surprised which is disrespectful. They're like they actually really liked your audition Yeah, we like send it again Yeah, they're like, thanks for punching up this script you're so right dude I worked hard as fuck on it and I was like wait really they liked it and they're like, yeah

And but then of course it just goes to a much more handsome guys becoming a movie star and I'm friends with but anyway So I'm not happy. I just signed something so I don't want to say, you know, you can't but I'll tell you after it Will make no sense. You'll be like what like why were you guys even up for the same thing? But damn anyway, yeah, let's get you but anyway So was that your first action thing like getting to really kick-ass or not? Well, I was in SWAT. You remember that? And oh that's another that's another good one. That's another classic. Yeah, right the genre we're talking about Yeah, and the funny thing about me being in SWATAT is right before that, the first movie that I ever got was Leprechaun Back to the Hood.

Yeah, oh fuck! Dude, are you kidding? Oh, that's another one. I was blowing his mind every time. You know what's funny? I was in middle school and I remember it truly. Every movie you're describing, I have definitely watched it. I was so stoned that there's no way I would have known which actor was who.

You know what I mean? Right. Like Leprechaun, back to another, oh man, you've got, you're holding down a very specific genre that's near and dear to my heart, which is just like an action movie that, Leprechaun back to the hood absolutely knew what it was doing. Like that's what's beautiful about it it was just like we know what you're here for we're like this is gonna be awesome they're like they're like okay you watched the first leprechaun and the black people in the audience were funnier we're adding

to it by yelling at the screen let's just take that experience and just put it directly into the movie and it's a beautiful a beautiful formula dude, so respect Wow What a fucking resume but just to show you like, you know Like the difference of it is like here's this movie that we have no trailers. We are just standing outside bathroom right. Change the dark clothes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then. It's some big ass warehouse. It's cold as shit. It's so fucking funny dude. We're all in the same place. And then, and then, you know, immediately like 10 days after we shoot that, then I go

to like the biggest thing that you could possibly have. And I remember like, you know, they were driving us to the 6th Street Bridge in the van and it was like Samuel Jackson in the front seat. That's fucking wild. Colin Farrell, LL Cool J, Michelle Rodriguez, Jeremy Renner. Insane, dude. And I'm sitting in the back seat, like. Yeah, what the fuck's going on?

Yeah, that's insane. What if this car just goes off the road? Yeah, you're not making it at all i'm not making look i'm not making the the press release not at all the bus driver might make it first because it's like they just want to don't disrespect the working man you know what i mean like they'll say the famous people and then also the crew like you were right in the sweet spot where you technically were talented

come on man you You're not making They're like LL Cool J and then LL Cool J again died we kind of we're not we couldn't tell he sort of looked like You died on the same day as Michael Jackson, oh that's I don't even know Look that up That's a tough one. She famous didn't move again and we don't even talk about I would love to figure this out Same day as Michael Jackson Farrah Fawcett She's a huge star I had no idea Day just just a day before, she would have had the whole day.

You don't want to do day after. Michael blocks out every celebrity death for a while. Holy shit. Damn. Yeah, that's true. That would have been you, bro. That would have been you. Damn. I mean, even, I don't even know at that point in his career if Renner even gets... Oh, no, not yet. No, he hadn't really popped yet. He had Dahmer. I think that was it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It would have been LL and Samuel L. Jackson for sure. And Michelle Argy is cuz of Fast and the Furious for sure, but that's awesome dude. That's insane. But yeah, like so that dichotomy was very interesting for me to go like from that to that. Yeah, that very interesting for me to go like from that today Yeah, that's it was literally ten days later than the leprechaun back who directed swat was it Clark Johnson? Okay, cool Yeah, I did the shield with him. Oh, that's awesome. And and yeah, cuz I Audition for the LL part and they were like, no, thank you Famous rapper, of course, of course. Yeah. So, yeah, yeah, yeah. We wanna get this famous rapper. Of course, of course, yeah. So yeah, so I've done a couple action things,

but that for sure was like, Oh yeah. Yeah, that was a step up. Cool, yeah, no, it was awesome. And you know, people get hurt in these action films. Like it seemed like everything is get everything is safe, dude I get I did a fucking so I the only movie I've ever I did like a little indie comedy this this summer And you know, I'd never acted I did I did like one day on a rom-com

You know in a rom-com where the main characters run into a weird guy that fuck Literally like the main characters I they ran into a weird guy on a bus. And that was my role. So I just come in for, literally they just were like, let's get a comedian to roast these hot people for whatever. And that was fun, but I wrote a movie, you know, I just like kind of want to get into it. I want to like, and you know, my philosophy has always been

just kind of make shit happen for yourself. Like I'm a five, seven fat balding man. Hollywood's not going to be like, let's get him. You know who we need to be a star of a movie is a diner. But that's what I mean. You got to make it. But you got to make it happen. Yeah, exactly. But even that, no, they prefer if you have a full head of hair. You know what I mean? Like even that.

You like that hair, bro. Yeah, I think, and thank you. Coming from another bald man wearing a wig right now. I appreciate it. You feel me? You feel me? You feel me? He's not not a wig.

You see what the fuck I had coming in your wig? All right, man, he ain't about to show me up. Yeah, I'm about to get some hair too then, mama. You're the first guest to ever compliment my hair, and it's fully because you're also bald No, but but come on black dude bald it's like ever since Jordan it's like a cheat code Every black eye looks so much better with a bald head. Where's a white guy? So you gotta be Statham for it all otherwise you just like a

Bruce Bruce Wilson is prime for sure but But yeah, dude anyway The point is that what I was trying to say is so we're doing that I wrote a little indie movie with some friends and we Made you want to talk about changing in the fuck it No trailers changing in the bat like what you're described left gone back to the hood probably Was like ten times the budget like we made it for so little money. I literally was napping under trees like I

had no and I'm the star in theory this I wrote it executive produced it. I'm the first I'm the and I I was just like napping under a tree between takes like that's the it was great. I love you know it was great. I'm happy to do it. But we had a scene where we just had to run and I was like you don't think about how hard a movie is like you your hour your sleep you work 14 hours a day You're sleeping like some sleeping in some horrible Airbnb with the director and the co-star because that's again the the you know That's the budget we're working with and I was I'd come off a tour I filmed my cop my stand-up special and I

went right to this movie so I'm totally I like I was like I pulled like two muscles in my fucking like back from just two takes of sprinting no action no rolling around and actually we had to I had to tackle a guy in it and you don't think about the simplest shit and this is a for a indie comedy and I was like, oh my god Like if this had any I do I was literally icing my shit and dude there it was there I had a sprinting scene one. Well, it'd be I did it once and I was like, that's easy And I woke up the next day and my whole body hurt Everyone on sets like be careful and I'm chill out, you fucking pussies.

I can run. And it was so, and then I had to do the second one. And I was like, that was the only diva shit I ever did in my life. I was like, I cannot run. I'm not sprinting again, bro. And you know what they did? So you were like, I'm bringing, oh shit, I got a real stand in. No, no.

No. It was a PA. It was a butch lesbian PA. Who didn't even have the same body PA. It was it was a butch lesbian PA Didn't even have the same body type she was great. He was black. Yeah. She was Hispanic. I think She was great though. She was awesome. But yeah, we didn't even have PAs that even matched our Standards that match but literally what we did was speed up the tape Like I was running fast. They were like, damn, this fucking sprinting sucks, dude.

You put out two times. You can't handle this. They literally were like, like it was just me in a field, so it didn't look that bad. It just looked like, damn, this motherfucker's fast. That was funny. But so I can imagine how much that, an actual action movie could fuck you up.

Like you have to be in good shape. You have to, and like I said, it's still like little things that because we have to do it so many times. So there was a couple like things on the Meg, like, you know, at the end when I they call it my bad boy. Man, they look me up. Yeah, they did.

They call it my bad boy moment where I get the Sideway No and smoke the damn dinosaur yeah, which is so fucking funny by Shooting a dinosaur in the head with a gun like and not like a rifle like a big No, but so so the landing yeah that so I did that shot I don't know maybe 22 times damn which seems to be very obnoxious. Yeah, that's crazy but so imagine doing the full dive and

Landing all your damn ribs up like like 22 up, yeah. Like, like 22 times. No, that sucks. Yeah, we, yeah, that's insane. Yeah. So, so that, I almost drowned in... Yeah. And it's so funny, because like when I watch the movie

and I get to that part and I see where they cut, like... Yeah. Yeah. Because they're like, oh, well, he almost died here, so... Right, right, right, right, right, right, right. It intimates what happened here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, God well, he almost died here

For enough for two seconds, that's another really annoying thing where it's like yeah, you worked all day Yeah, and it's in the movie for one second or an editor gets in there like this sucks Yeah, and they don't even put it in you know, I what the fuck man that happened to me. I saw I did this this TV show Call legit. Um, I'm trying to think What was the Jim Jeffries? Oh, yeah, he's fucking hilarious yeah, it was his show and and and we did this and I was a home invader on there and They had this big huge bong with this huge base, right?

And the girl's supposed to take it and then crack me over the head with it. It's like one of the candy. Well, this thing was so thick that when she hit me, it was like, but it wasn't like light. It was like like and it gave me a concussion and almost knocked me out right here Holy and he did it twice Like they already had to stop the set yeah You know they did it again

Fucking medic tend to you know, like are you ready to go page? They stop the whole set bro, like why I sit there and recover from this huge injury and the motherfuckers never used Like I still got a big ass book right now Yeah, that's fucking crazy have you ever been like cut out of anything awesome like have you ever been like a thing where you're like Fuck dude. How could you take me out of this yeah I was pissed off I was in this movie called the other woman with um was it Cameron Diaz was she in that the motherfucker from Game of Thrones okay Jamie Lannister oh yeah here we go the other yeah Nicki Minaj was in that.

Yeah, Kate Upton, Leslie Mann. So I don't know how to pronounce Nickolo's, Kosta's name. Kosta Waldo. Yeah, so he was in. Jamie Lannister. Jamie Lannister. Jamie Lannister.

He's in Shotcaller too. Don Johnson is, yeah, it's a big, big movie. So I was the end credit scene, right? They brought me in to be the end credit scene because he goes to jail at the end of the day and I'm his cellmate and I rape him. They're like some good old fashioned comedy. When did this movie come out?

When did this movie come out? 2014. 2014, they're doing a little prison rape stinger at the end at the premiere he was like like on the red carpet he's like I just want to let you know you're fantastic in a movie, but the test audiences You raping Jamie Lannister No one tells you you go to the premiere and you're thinking atannister, baby. Hell yeah, you know what time it is. And then I didn't know what time it was.

That's so funny. That's so funny. No heads up is crazy. Exactly. Did he direct it? Because his wife's in it. I don't know who. Go up, Elvis.

You know, she's so funny. She's actually one of the most funny. Oh, Cassavetes. Oh, Nick Cassavetes, yeah. That guy's awesome. Oh Nick Cassavetes. Yeah, that's that guy's awesome He's done some fucking bangers and he's obviously, you know, his dad is like the fucking Kid the guy who started basically, you know Indie indie film or not started but he's a big, you know, John Cassavetes, but Nick Cassavetes did a lot of fucking cool shit but anyway

John Hugh he's done. I mean he's done a ton of huge movies, but so that that's up Yeah, that sucks dude Yeah, I mean cuz that seems like a thing that happens to actors a lot where it's like you get you get something Or you get close to something like I remember I was toothless again. I'm bare I'm not you're you're I'm not trying to be like, as an actor myself, I didn't have a tooth for two years and I got to the end.

And I wasn't popping at all at the time. And my podcast was doing well, and I never got any commercial stuff. I always figured like, oh, I'm toothless. There's yeah, like look at me. I didn't have a tooth with the full body. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now that was a look. Yeah, absolutely. Well, yeah.

But so looking like that, I got to the final round of auditions for a a commercial where I had to be a fucking carnival ride operator. And I'm like, well, I'm fucking toothless. I'm going to get this. Who's fucking who's going to beat me at? for a commercial where I had to be a fucking carnival ride operator. And I'm like, well I'm fucking toothless, I'm gonna get this. Who's gonna beat me at, and I lost, and it was a lot of money, because it's like, you know how commercials pay,

it's like, you don't have to be famous at all, and they'll give you like a hundred grand to just like pull a lever. And I lost that audition, and I was like, how the fuck did I lose this audition to like a handsome gay guy? He's not, he doesn't look like a carnival ride operator. I got I remember getting to the end But anyway, so it was that pissed me off

So I'm sure there's like you know have you ever been like close to getting anything awesome And wait hold on speaking of losing that job. How did you lose that tooth? Well that a lot of my philosophy is like, how fucked up looking can I be and still succeed in life? Because I think that's a big thing. How would I look like a Jack Garner? Yeah, totally. It's a big badge of honor.

And I had like a hot girlfriend when I looked like that. Wow. My life was, honestly, the toothless years of my life were the best years of my life. I miss it. A big issue I have is that I wish I had my bald long hair with no tooth. That would be a power look. That's fucked up that I have.

I never paired these two. That would have been crazy. But I literally, I mean, I've told, I used to do a bit about it, but I, I literally, the final straw was I cracked it on a chicken wing. Like I was eating wings and the tooth fucking cracked Yeah, and I finished the wings by the way. I ate them. I ate them with like the back of my Yeah And I did I literally was like I was I had to I peeled the wings off and like place them in my back teeth

I'm gonna comedy class at the Comedy comedy seller who they do have the best wings. I will say that weirdly the comedy seller's incredible wings. That sounds like a terrible commercial for them. Dude, I'm here. Yeah. Yeah, I know. That's how crispy they are. You don't even have to tell them to double fry them. But wait, so you where was the tooth? Did you keep it? Did you? So what was? Ultimately what happened is I had something called tooth resorption Which is when like your tooth is so weak or like it's like you have some trauma to the tooth and like it's just slowly For whatever reason nutrients are coming out of it So it's fucked up and it's just your body is absorbing the tooth from the inside so you don't know that you have this little fucked up tooth and

It just completely I would feel it like if you put any pressure on it. And I would begin I'm broke at the time. I don't go to the fucking dentist. And then I went to some like, oh, man, my mom worked at a dental that used to work at a dental lab. And so they had a hookup with a dentist who would like fix it up, but I got a I'm not kidding a $50 root canal.

And you'll be shocked. You'll be shocked to hear it didn't fix it And it was so weird dude, this guy just was like he was a nice guy, but just You know, you don't want to have a dentist that in the same parking lot as a Jiffy Lube That's it. That's a good rule of thumb and he just fucked it up I mean he didn't fuck it up what I don't know what he did and then I just cracked it on this fucking wing and It didn't come out. It was just cracked And it hurts so bad and for three days cuz I had had you know when you're young and poor You're just like any health problem. You're like well. We'll give this three weeks to fix it

Well, we'll give this three weeks to fix itself. Yeah You know what I mean? It's gonna grow back, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah I literally was like just a good night's rest and my tooth will be back to normal And so I eventually just had to go to the dentist because I just it hurts so fucking bad and they were like and I Didn't know either that like I thought alright you lose a tooth. They fucking put another one in It's like a fucking year-long process and you're long. You gotta get a bone graft You got a that has, that takes like six months, then you have to, the whole thing if you do it as soon as possible, they can kind of figure it out in like six months,

whatever, but I also didn't know what I was doing and I was going to just a friend's uncle, again, I have no money at the time and It took me so long Because I thought because I didn't I wasn't even listening because the guy was like the bone graft is gonna take six months to heal So I heard like oh your bone grows back in six months So he pulls the tooth and I'm like, well six months. I got a right this right whatever and then I go to the dentist I'm like, all right. It's been six six months He's like wait, you never got the bone graft and I was like, what do you mean? So then I had to get the bone graft and then wait another six months But at that point I kind of liked being there you was already That I figured out she would like whenever we oh man

I could tell and you know what? She was 100% right like it was fucked up to introduce people to your fat Toothless boyfriend. She's already much hotter than me. No one understands why we're dating to begin with Yeah, but it's like if that doesn't come across immediately if I'm like if she's at work and she's like it used to be to Her work friends are like like what I remember when I met her family, she was just like, she really was like, because I met people she worked with and I didn't I didn't bring the tooth because I had a fake tooth. Oh, I had like a little flipper. But I just took it out. You know, I just didn't like wearing it. If it sucked. And she was like she was literally like because I just didn't bring the fake tooth

when I met some of her work friends. And she was like, why didn't you bring your tooth? And I was like, I don't know who gives a fuck. That's who I am. And then she just was like, I could I did feel bad. It was like, oh, I literally even that's how people talk about accepting yourself. That's how much I had accepted myself.

I didn't even consider bringing my fake tooth To like meeting people that were important to my girlfriend. I didn't even consider it It didn't even dawn on me that I should do that But when I met her family, I put the fake tooth in obviously. Yeah. Yeah, and then you just rocked with whatever is going on I was fully bald. I was fully bald back then. I that was it was that era But anyway anyway anyway yeah but hey you have you ever did you ever get close to anything fucking you know anything awesome that you were like fuck like we talked about you getting cut out but any big roles you almost got or shit that

like you know we ever like a finalist for some like for something or man I Man, I feel like that happens so often. Yeah. You know, I mean, the worst is, is when you get drug along. I got drug along for, I think, three months on 8 Mile. Oh, no! That's fucking brutal! Imagine, you're a Detroit rapper. A Detroit rapper who grew up in what they're talking about, hip hop sound.

And they give it to Makai Pfeiffer? And they give it to Makai Pfeiffer. And I'm like, what the fuck is up, bitch? They drag my ass along, oh you're in the mix, you're in the mix. Oh no, dude. I'm sitting there like, hey I'm telling everybody I'm B.A. Mao. 100% I have to be A 8 mile and then it's him. Yeah, that's brutal, dude.

So, yeah, that sucks. Yeah. Yeah. Wow, that's got to be. That's like, yeah. They're making a movie about growing up a fat Greek guy in Baltimore and I don't get that. I would fucking kill myself dude

that's insane. It's the drag-along that pisses you off so much. I guess just recently I just went through that like like this year with like Kevin Hart has this new show that he's doing called Fight Night that's happening in Atlanta right now. And drug alone, where they're like, the director is even saying like, oh, you're the choice, you're the pick. You know, and then even to add more insult to that, he's like, and we still have to confirm with the producers, but even if this doesn't work,

there's another role that we have that you won't even have to audition for. And then none of them, right and then None of them. Yeah, they gave those to mckay fifer His wig was wild It was like we all know mckay fifer. We know he's not like this It was like we all know MacKaye Pfeiffer. We know he's not like this. It was like come on man give him something a little more subtle than that It was yeah that one the one where he's next to Eminem. I mean it looks ridiculous. That looks like an SNL wig

But that's gotta be brutal too because you rap and you grew up in Detroit and so That story so when it when where he's when he's battling, that was kind of like indicative of this place called the hip hop shop where we used to go. And that's where Proof would run that. He would be the host and Proof is the guy Makai Fife was playing. And yeah, so I would be there. That's where I first saw Eminem.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is there. And it just sucks, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It sucks so much, you know, that that didn't happen. But you know. Were you battling back then when you were like coming up? Is that, when did you start rapping in Detroit?

Cause you grew up in Detroit, right? And so is that what you like just battling? Were you a battle rapper? What was, how did you get started? Well, right? And so, is that what you're just battling? Were you a battle rapper? How did you get started? Well, actually, I've been rapping since elementary school. So I'm talking about full on writing in my neighborhood. I'm the best rapper, but I'm also the youngest. And adults, I say adults, but they're probably 18, 19 years old,

come to my house Just to like bring their friends for me to do my raps cuz I'm like a little kid, but it's not for oh, yeah Yeah, you know and it's always like when a little kid is good at something. It always like this is fucking crazy Yeah, there's like a novelty fact right cuz it's like why are you able to do this? And why why do you have so much like confidence? Yeah? And especially like cuz I you know, I, yeah. And then especially like, because I, you know, I've been like a word person like my whole life, you know? And so I was, I was always like that

even when I was like a precocious little kid. So through elementary school, middle school, high school, you know, so I was constantly doing that. But yeah, high school is when I really like started like battling, you know? And that's where that side of me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's awesome. Was that area? There really was. There was a crazy because when we were in college, you know, I'm third, me and

Elvis, we grew up together. But there really was a I feel like battle rapping now has gotten it has gone like very punch line and very staccato where it's like there's very little flowing I feel like you know what I mean it's always like it's pretty much punch it's it's almost a roast battle with just a little rhythm now like all that stuff used to be you know like smack was awesome and like uh the Toronto one the king of the king of the dot yeah king of the dot like that there was a there was like um there was an, I feel like right when we were in college where it was right before the transition.

But and I mean, 8 Mile did a lot for it. And then there was what was the what was J on BT? Jin was what was that? Oh, Freestyle Friday, Freestyle Fridays. And I feel like even MTV had a they had that one reality competition that it was live, that was awesome. Oh, making a band?

No, no, making the band's awesome, although. I auditioned for making a band. You might've dodged a bullet on that one. I know, right? I auditioned for that one. I did. Right. Probably for the best that you got,

that you didn't get that one. I did. No, I didn't. No, I didn got that you didn't get that one. But yeah, making them was a great, you know, was it was hilarious. But I just do feel like there was honestly a mile had a ton to do with it because there was a huge battle. There was a huge rap and culture, I feel like in the right around the time that that movie came out. But yeah, now it does feel like it's gotten a little too, just, there's not a lot of, where I imagine back then

it was, people cared about flowing, there wasn't, also I feel like people now have sort of seen everything, where it's not enough to just be a good rapper for in the battling culture, I don't know. I feel like it's fallen off a little bit, but it's cool that, I would love a good rapper for like in the battling culture. I don't know I feel like it's fallen off a little bit But it's cool that I would love a battle rapper surgeons because we look we kind of grew up on that shit Well, we tried to add a to J. Cole poke has decided that is true copper pleat. Well, we'll see we'll see well I mean, we'll see what happens with I have a feeling

Kendrick and Drake that would just be awesome Oh that would be if they actually and Drake seems like you you know he with the shits especially because it feels like the Avengers is going after Thanos right now. Yeah which is cool I mean which is kind of a I mean it is a compliment to some degree but I just do think Kendrick really is the one guy who has the argument for being his equal and you know in some capacity where you know Drake is huge and I mean Obviously the push your t thing just is the big dent in his he's under he's like a boxer

That's like 90 and one yeah like Drake. That's it. That was a tough one because there's no way to look at that He only he only honestly me personally I only feel like he lost that because of the bombshell that was yeah but that is that is why Japan only surrendered because of the two atomic bombs you know what I mean like that he still dropped a nuke on him like you know it was awesome like but also because I think Pusha T was just like the guy to do it where it's like some people would have fucked that Up, but he had enough of like, you know, he just had enough credibility and his style was perfect

It was it was awesome. But anyway, I don't know it's it was just cool because I do love I will I will say my favorite Thing about eight mile it was tough to be a kid named Clarence when a mile came out We had a kid there was a kid named Clarence when 8 Mile came out. We had a kid, there was a kid named Clarence at my, I grew up in Baltimore and Clarence was a little, he was little as fuck. He was like 5'2". So he's, I'm sorry Clarence if you're fucking listening. Maybe he's 5'5", but he was a little guy, just not athletic at all.

And it was like, he was a cool dude, I fucked with him, but it was like man when you're a tiny like tiny kid in fucking high school And your name's Clarence and that shit drops. Yeah There's no coming back from that damn. There was no coming back from that from Clarence cool, dude I don't want to say his last name, but damn class. Yeah, poor Clarence man. What are you gonna do? But that's yeah, dude, that's that's interesting. Sorry you missed out on that That would have been fucking that could have been you in that over-the-top dread wig You know, uh Also, here's here's another one pissing me off. Mm-hmm get rich or die trying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, of course

Um, I was a big 50 guy in middle school when he was coming up I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm it's tough to do. I hate to do that to people because Because I look like shit I was in middle school and there was a big there was a big like Ja Rule versus 50 cent Thing going on in seventh grade. I hate to make you feel even worse But I do remember being but I was to my credit a staunchly 50 guy, you know back in the day Yeah, we so what happened was before they did the movie They wanted to get 50 up to speed acting wise.

And so they went and they like handpicked, it was, I think it was four of us actors to meet with the director. They took us to this amazing hotel in Hollywood. It was me, Taraji P. Henson, Omar Benson, who is actually in, P. Hansen, Omar Benson, who is actually in is Omar in this eight mile and in get Richard. I try. I feel like he is.

Omar Benson. So he's been in a ton of stuff. So he was in both. He's in this and and then get Richard. I try. And then there was also another actor from New York that they brought. So they brought us all in to work with him and like do scenes with him. And we did it.

We didn't get paid or anything. Like we did it on a pretense is that we think that we're gonna be part of the project. And only Omar was out of the four. That must have been the, I I mean I can't imagine I can't imagine trying to like get through a fresh like trying to act 50 cent at that time like I know that must have been your greatest challenge because you're literally Shakespeare aren't you a Shakespearean trained actor to do them to be like, all right, 50, let's let's let's let's spar. Let's go back and forth.

Exactly. I can't imagine 50 is great. He's hilarious, but I can I wouldn't say he's a fine our finest actor. He is hilarious. You know, he actually not think about it. He blocked me over. He's ready before he was doing the, he was going through the get the strap campaign where he was going by telling people that they owe him money.

Oh wow, really? I don't remember that actually. This is probably like maybe like four years ago when he was just like that was his little shit that he was, so many people owe him money or whatever. So I did the same thing back then. I was saying, you owe me money, cause your ass is, and his son commented on one of my things and because his son commented on it and he's like beefed out with his son, I guess.

Oh he is? He blocked me. He's beefing with his own son. Like they met each other so he blocked my ass. Wow dude, not nothing, not even a case of vitamin water he can't send you. Please unblock me please. That's fucking wild dude. Dude that's crazy. I mean dude we could talk forever about that. I have so many questions.

If you're ever back please come do the show again. But we got half of the show here that we do is advice. So, you know, we'd love to we love to get your perspective to some of our some of our listeners here and anything by the way anything you want to plug anything people should check out in particular. Oh, I got straight bars five out right now. My mixtape that is available everywhere. There's there's five is a series of five mixtape straight bars is so no hooks No gimmicks just like straight awesome crazy

Bars is coming at you. Um, I mean and then I also have my album out a book of pages All this stuff is like on the platform Yeah, check it out. Definitely check follow follow page on you know, we'll have all this stuff linked Eldest shit dude back elders elders. You got to dust off fruity loops, dude. Make a couple make a couple beats That's another thing we were fucking there. We you know, we just grew up in the air and you know We're both from Baltimore. We were big rap fans too and eldest definitely had his We just grew up in the air and you know, we're both from Baltimore. We were big rap fans, too And eldest definitely had his producer producer era. You got it. You had a couple placements, dude Oh, yeah, we'll get your beat meal after this

Damn this guy's gotta stop fucking reaching out. Yeah Before eldest before we we started working together eldest that was like eldest's way to try and get out of his shitty media job Which he was just DMing He was just DMing like SoundCloud teenagers Eldest is just like emailing like, you know these kids on pills like hey guys Yeah, check out my fucking check out my beats 16 year olds on cough syrup Like a 14 year old like 20 bucks to give me a crack so like FL studio

different VSTs and shit what a hilarious damn there's there there is something I do feel like there is a compulsion amongst every white kid that grew up in like a predominantly black city where you're like maybe I could be a rapper right all like everyone has that you have to Stop yourself and production is the one like it's the non embarrassing way to go about it It's like so yeah, this is fine there's plenty of like I do feel like that's an archetype of producer is like There's like obviously like alchemist was just a cool dude who happens to be white

But then there's like a ton of producers who are just Dork white guys that are just sick. You see you see a picture of them. You're like what? This is who this guy is and you could have been that a different in a different life That could have been you hit that YouTube harder Hey, we'll do it dude when we give in when we finally start our vanity rap project Are you as a ghost writer? You know yeah, I love I would love that dude just like a five track mixtape where it's just like you know bragging about Oh, that would be awesome. Yeah, that's what you that's what you get fame like when a when a famous person like like when they

Retroactively get into music like you've been rapping forever but like Bruce Willis is a great example where it's like that motherfucker's going on tour with his band or like that kind of the back in the day like that that'll be our vanity project we fucking do a mixtape where that you produce and i even though i can't rap it would just be i'm just copying all of action everybody can rap now like yeah yeah yeah you yeah, I feel like with your aesthetic That totally it would be all aesthetic. It would be all yeah. Yeah, I would look all that's the thing though I would just be stealing action Bronson's whole shit That's really what it is when action came out. I was like oh that guy rocks. That's everything

That's everything I want to be I just looked at him I was like damn that guy he was he was fatter than me at the time now. He's now he's awesome I you know jacked he's got I literally am just following his whole life plan to be honest I'm trying to get jacked he sees he's out here, right? Yeah, I think he's back and forth. I think that you know anytime a lot of people kind of bounce around But yeah, he's from here. He's actually from Queens. We'd love to get him on the pie. I got to fucking hit him up because he's awesome. But anyway. Whoa I'm back and I want to tell you about Game Time even more than I did at the beginning

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Check out the mixtapes. We'll have it all linked. Check out the album and let's do a little, let's do some questions here, Eldy. Hey, Savvy. Hey, Eldis. Nope. I have kind of a weird question. Every time.

In every place. Hey, Savvy. Hey, Eldis. I have kind of a weird question. Hey Savvy, hey Eldis. I have kind of a weird question today. So I started dating again recently and I met someone really organically at a show. He's awesome, we have a lot in common and all of the things that we have in common are things he's brought up first

because I've been really careful recently. I don't really trust people. So super into spirituality, super into art. He's really into music. So we hit it off really well. We've become great friends over the past couple of months. And we've taken a nice photo recently. Nice. We were texting the other day and we were just talking about art.

And I asked him, what kind of mediums you work with and he said he likes to use charcoal and pencils like that's great that's awesome and he shared some of his art without me asking which I thought was cool I don't know I got a weird feeling about it because he said I'm not very good with pencil sends me this immaculate, immaculate drawing. And I don't know, I just had a weird feeling. So I first image searched it on Google, and it turns out that was another artist's picture.

No! Which is, I think a really weird thing to lie about. I don't think he lied to me. I have to go to him, questioning everything. I haven't said anything to him yet. I just kind of played along with it because he didn't know that I did that. But what would you do? What should I do?

I'm extremely weirded out now because I'm about art that they do. I don't know. I should have my stuff. It's not that good. I just like to make shit because I like to make shit. Sure. Yeah. What do you guys think? Is it weird? Should I just like to make sure cuz I like to make sure Yeah, what do you guys think? Should I just go soon?

Something that I don't want to make it too uncomfortable and embarrassed them. I mean, thanks guys That's fucking crazy That's insane Also, dude, if you're gonna do that, you gotta figure out people can reverse image. No, he didn't think you would be a fucking psychopath. He's going reverse engineered god damn image. I don't know that. It's a, it's a, it's a trick.

He's like, be sick, take the god damn thing and say that's cool. And he's going about your life. You don't gotta go and be a sleuth about it. What the fuck is wrong with you? He's supposed to be like, oh, this is awesome and then go about our life. But this was gonna come up at some point though. I'm gonna loot the body. What the fuck is wrong with you? You're supposed to be like, oh this is awesome and then go home and buy our life. But this was gonna come up at some point though. Like, imagine you pretend you're awesome at drawing and then she's like, hey come over,

let's fucking hang out. She talks about how she's into art, she showed him her... Like, this is an insane thing to do. This is crazy because it's so, you can find out about this so easily and it would get me if a woman did this to me I'd be like what the fuck else has she been lying about? Well, that's yeah, that's you know, whatever that's gonna happen That's standard. You know, that's standard sometimes I'd prefer honesty, but if you want to if you want to fake it Hey, that's on you sister. But

I prefer honesty, but if you want to if you want to fake it, hey good. That's on you, sister. But this is insane. This is like because and look, there is a scenario that you're saying to right, where it's like this guy's insecure. He wants her to think he's cool. And so he's he's trying to lie about, you know, he's just like lying about. Oh, yeah. The president did it. It's in it to you to make you feel good. He's just like lying about

But imagine if but it's like it's all but based on this like Pretends that he does do this stuff So I would worry that what else has he been lying about to just he's clearly there's this disease of just has he been lying about to just he's clearly there's this disease of just pretending to be someone to impress the person you're dating like that's something that I think a lot of people do that's based in insecurity it's something that even in my life like I recently went on a couple dates with somebody and I was just like wait she's nice but we're not really I don't really see this going anywhere it was it was literally the first time in my life where I was like oh I don't have to pretend to be someone

else to get pussy and I was like I'm just not gonna try I'm just not gonna pursue this and it felt great to be like oh cool I don't have to like you know I don't have that disease of like being a heist it goes back to being like an insecure high school boy who just wants women's attention right so you'll do anything you'll pretend to be anyone yeah but if you grow up you have to be like look I'm who I am and then I'll attract who I should be attracted right who lives there and so for this guy to be like it's one thing that he's not even just lying about his interests he's like stealing someone else's work to pretend to do this

lie that he'll easily be caught in. So I would be worried if I was her that it's like, you know, I don't know, man. This is fucking weird. I would. I feel like his question might be next. He might be the next caller and like, you know, I was with this chick and then I just sent her a picture and said it was me. She went and't do no thing. But look, I'm with you that it is. But this is one of those things where it's like, he's clearly done enough in his behavior.

This is like when cops need certain probable calls to get a warrant. He did enough. He did enough. He did enough weird shit to her. But she's like, OK, we'll run the background. We'll do the will I this I got a warrant to Google image search this like he did enough weird shit so what is the next

level mean she said they went they probably fucked I had to guess she's just a not you know she's maybe a quaint young lady I mean whatever maybe they do you know they're jerking each other off sucking maybe there wasn some sucking. Maybe there wasn't, I'm guessing they just hooked up is what she's saying. We, you know, we touched each other. Yeah, I don't think it was like going to dinner. That's the next level. And so I feel for this woman

because she clearly approached this in a, she's very guarded, it seems like, you know, she wanted to get to know this guy first. And she feels like she did put him through like, okay, I wanna be in a relationship with somebody I can trust like she didn't just like meet someone vibe hook up figure it out later she went about this a very intentional way and she still caught a psycho it seems like like a potential He was trying to get some pussy. Yeah. He was like, this is the best way to do it. Well, clearly he was trying to get some pussy. He's clearly quaint.

So I have to take my time with her and show her I have some interest that she might like me. But it's also like, then just do a shitty drawing. That's the thing. If he had made a shitty drawing, then it's kind of sweet where he's like, oh, I'm trying to get into the shit she likes. But he stole one. And then he was like, this is the funniest part. He's like, oh, I'm trying to get into the shit she likes. But he stole one. And then he was like, this is the funniest part. He's like, oh, it's not very good. But he picked an awesome one.

So he's doing fake humility when he's stealing art. To me, this is the kind of thing where, this, yeah, I mean, he did get the fuck. So he, yeah. Yeah, this is, yeah. Yeah, I was caught stealing another man's art and ghosted, but I still beat. So now look, if I'm her, I would, I think I would be weirded out. And look, she's saying also something that's like, I don't wanna make it uncomfortable. You're not the one making it uncomfortable.

He made it uncomfortable, stealing, doing something weird, right? So I think this is important for our caller. This is a mo, even though this is a weird thing that happened to you, this is a potential moment of growth where, cause I've been that person before too, where it's like avoiding conflict, not wanting to make things uncomfortable,

sometimes that leads to you getting trampled by other people, right? The people that like confrontation, they can kind of get whatever the fuck they want. For our caller here, I would say you deserve to know what the fuck this guy was thinking. So she should ask him? Absolutely. I think she should be like hey Like hey, so I was just wondering um you know It's really nice. Yeah reminds me of something else I've seen on the internet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah exactly I mean that is true. You do you do have to go about it in a specific way I guess you're right in that he could then be like give him a chance to come clean a little or something

Good cop bad cop it's like so what did you do to do can you show me a little version of that like I wouldn't do these men psychological tricks like look you could even apologize like I don't know why I even did this but I threw it in reverse Google search and I saw I just saw that you did it. Like, I don't know, I do feel like, I mean, I guess that's true. I think this is grounds for ghosting definitely. I think so too.

Or just doing like a very abrupt like fade away, just short text back. If she does that, then he wins. He got the beat and then beat it. I don't think he wins. He doesn't, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think he wins, because he's the kind of weirdo that would do this Yeah, like this guy wants to be with this girl maybe too much

But there's a thing I guess what I'm saying is for two reasons, right? She owes it to herself a little bit. I think to to push through something uncomfortable and confront someone about doing something weird But also it's like I do think there is a possibility that this guy just likes her so much that he doesn't want like that he wants to present himself as someone who's good at the shit that she likes. Now if I had to pick I would say like this is probably not somebody you're gonna end up with somebody you're gonna date long term it is fucking weird. The only problem here is the why did you reverse Google image search it? And she just is very interesting to me. What made you say, you know what I'll do

But I get it Vibes dude. Yeah She literally said I just had a weird feeling and my only thing about her confronting him about it Is that that's a little bit of a hurdle for her to get through of like, hey look, I just had an interesting feeling. You said it wasn't so good. I thought it was incredible. I just looked it up to see if there was other similar work, whatever. I don't even know what you even say, but I do agree with you.

It is grounds for ghosting. I think it's such a weird thing to do. At first it sounds like pathetic, but it's not, it's not pathetic though. It's like in the realm of like pathological lying You're right. I feel like if she even like confronts it who knows other stories like you're right He's like that guy actually stole from me. Oh My god, someone's using my work He's like I have to go find this guy and then he just just never talks to her again. That's a good point eldest yeah

I just I just feel for her I guess this guy trying to like claw out of a confrontation with more that's a good that's a very good point That is a very good point And you know what ultimately if this was somebody that was more important to you Maybe then you have to confront him But it's like look you got sometimes you take elves when you're dating just happens You took it later in the process than you put a like this guy revealed himself to be a fucking potential psychopath later on like if

he lies about this what else has he been lying about she also said she hasn't really revealed what she's into like is this guy doing the whole stalking her social media and pretending to be a different guy like is he doing like a little talented mr. Ripley thing of day of like B of creating a personality to you know Impress her because like if he did this who knows what other shit He did you know so she might the guy she might even be into might be a fake guy that doesn't exist and the actual guy Some you know kind of shapeshifter. That's just like looking for approval and head so anyway it's to your level of comfort our

friend whatever you if you want to confront him confront him but we think you're cleared for a ghosting and if he's like if he's like in fact if you ghost him and he's like hey haven't heard from you then you can be like look this might be a little weird but I just had a feeling and I reverse image searched that thing you sent me and I just don't and then you then you give him the opportunity to maybe explain himself but even then I just feel like you're trying to do something really intentional with dating she got to know him first it's like I think you're on the right path you took a little L you're that much closer to an actual good relationship though we say it all

the time the road to a win is littered with losses and so you just took an L and just keep it pushing you're good but that is fucking weird as fuck I mean not not that I haven't pretended to be somebody else to fuck of course, but honestly... But I just wore a mask and turned my person into someone else. Yeah, exactly. I just sort of pretended to be into stuff that I... I pretended a girl, some girl I hooked up with had like pet rats, and I pretended that wasn't fucked up to get pussy. You know, I was like, oh, these guys are cute.

You know, like, that's, it was fucked up. Yeah, it was weird. But honestly, the pussy was pretty good. She was, she was out of her mind, so. Oh man, the good old days, the Baltimore days. All right, what else we got here, Eldis? Hey, Stav, Hey, Eldi. Um, I have a predicament with my son.

I am raising a seventh grader and an eighth grader and a seven-year-old. Hmm. Up until recently, my son, the seventh grader, has been such a sweet boy, so loving and so fun, and now he's just trying to do a little fucking asshole. I know it's an age-appropriate, age-old fucking problem that everyone goes through with their middle schoolers, but I just can't seem to get through to him, and I feel like such a cliche, but he has wonderful grades, he gets straight A's too, you know,

one or two B's most of the A's school's too easy for him. And he and his friends just sit there and fuck around all day. He gets attention and then two days later he's getting suspended. Like, I can't, I can't do this anymore. He's becoming increasingly disinterested He used to love sports now. He doesn't want to play anymore But I think it's more so all the his shit-ass stupid friends don't like to play sports so now he wants to be like them and I had to take the discord away because it's like digital or the flies, you know

I feel like I don't want to fucking scare him but they're saying mean things to the one kid and I'm like trying to paint a picture of like don't put things in writing you know people taking seriously and now do I tell him like you're gonna make this kid kill himself one day like what I want to be real with him I want to set his expectations for consequences of like these are real or things that happen Like what do I do? I can't take away a shirt anymore. He doesn't have anything left He doesn't care about positive reinforcement What do I do short of just wringing his neck like Homer Simpson?

I know you don't have kids, but maybe you can have some insight since your Head brothers and your poor mom went through it. Oh, yeah, my mom definitely. Love you. Bye. I actually do feel like this woman is my mom. She sounds like I feel bad because I definitely was. I mean, I never got I didn't really get suspended that much, but I definitely. I went through the like perfect little little angel and then I got to middle

school and my mom put me in a really good school but I had the opposite problem of this kid where I was I was always the smartest kid like you know we are in elementary school I was a really smart kid and I get to sixth grade and it's the top Baltimore she's really fucked up I mean it's probably similar to Detroit where the public schools are fucked up but Baltimore you had this thing I don't know if Detroit did where there's like magnet programs where there's like three schools that was like really they basically like tested the smartest kids and just were like alright it's gonna be bullshit 80% of these kids are fucked but this 20% might get to go to college

so I got to go to like there's like three schools that were really like truly the smartest kids in the city in terms of standardized tests But I got there and I was the dumbest kid there because it's like the smartest kids in the whole city So I was like, oh, I'm just gonna fucking start cheating off these kids like I don't have to I don't have to learn anymore and I just that's when I developed into being kind of the class clown and I but never it was never this bad. I never really you know got into that many fights or anything like that I mean I started selling Weed in high school, but that was I always I always I kind of covered all my bases

I never really let it get back to my parents But I definitely you know this is this is a tough thing to have to deal with where I do think particularly sometimes kids Just turn around that age, but I mean you literally have kids Literally, okay. Yeah are this age? Oh wow So I have a middle schooler who was super sweet and then He start to get this turn and and the turn specifically comes from that discord it comes from his friends because that's where he's learning to be

the person you know cuz the reason he was sweet is because he was around you yeah right right you are your best friend yeah yeah but now he has friends that are like independent of you and and they are the wildest people in the world He learned all of that stuff from the discord and the games that they play like they they they say the meanest things possible to each other So that's where he's getting the energy from and he don't want to play sports cuz he like Why the fuck I'm play sports and get all tired and shit when I could just sit here and talk shit with these motherfuckers Sports on this game, you know, so it's a it's a difficult thing to navigate through because you feel like this person is not who I had.

Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I don't know who this little shit is that actually stinks in my fucking house now along with talking shit to me and I still gotta buy him shit. Like, you know? So it's a difficult thing. So I espoused the Homer Simpson method.

I'm like, that's the only thing gonna work on this little ass. He already took away all his goddamn privileges. He don't get no supper, nothing. And he's like, what else is that? You know what I'm saying? Fuck that little nigga. You still bigger than him right now. You don't get no supper, nothing. And you just go, what else is that? You know what I'm saying? Fuck that little nigga. You still bigger than them right now.

You got two more years left. So you better help him get it out. So hit your kids, I guess. Beat the shit out of them, motherfucker. That's how anything is gonna work. Oh, fuck. That's, yeah, I mean, I don't, this is really tough.

I mean, because I do think there's just, I just had a bad relationship with my family at different points And I don't know I just do think there's a little bit of they have to go through that shit like they have to just I don't know. Have you like with Is there other ways you've dealt with it like like have you were any of your other kids? Were they shitty like you have older kids too right so it's like so I got lucky because um I got really lucky in this this sense because you know so I have two older kids and two younger kids and during this time period like where the middle school age

Well, first of all, huh? My son he didn't even go to middle school because he was his mom and so He was home school. So I didn't go through that part with him. Um, and my daughter she So strange saying she when she right there. She's in the room off camera. Like what is he gonna say? But like her, she did well in school, but you know her issues was just like attitude wise. Yeah, yeah. So of you know, one day getting the fights

and having attitudes and like dealing with that, which is a very tough thing to do as a parent. Like you have like a little kid that feel like they could just say whatever to you. That is a very difficult thing to not punch them in the face. You know, I was able to escape that and knock her ass out. That's why I was like, you know, I was able to escape that and knock her ass out. But you, my lady, might have to do that. That's crazy. Yeah, I mean, I don't, I mean, I do think saying that there might be consequences and like, because this is the problem with when you get to this age is that you don't understand how the world works at all.

You don't, you've never really felt consequences. Your parents have done everything for you and you're starting to, Lord of the Flies is perfect because it's like everything's taken care of. You don't really have to worry about anything and now you can just be like, you can just be a dickhead for the first time and you haven't felt any any consequences and so I'm

trying to think like what kept me what kind of kept me in check she says she says that he doesn't care about like I love stuff being taken away you know it was fucked up I mean the him not caring about sports sucks because I do think that honestly kept me from not doing like, because my grades had to be a certain level to stay on the teams I was playing. I played soccer, I played basketball in middle school. And I remember, I didn't really give a fuck what my parents thought, but I was like, fuck,

I had made the basketball team in eighth grade, which is huge for me. And then of course I went, and I just, I was this size in eighth grade I Just didn't get any taller and so I remember I went out in high school and they were like well of course no Sure five seven you're not you're not playing Yeah, it's like literally the center on our team was six eight It's like you know you're not playing in this Baltimore Baltimore City League is good

but it was a risk I just remembered failing like geometry and being like Caring cuz my coach was gonna see it not my mom Like I didn't really give a fuck like I definitely I do think kids hit this age of like I don't care What my parents thinking in fact fuck my parents like when you're 13, you're like, I'm fucking like you're just like who cares like I'm a bad I'm a badass. I'm a I'm a grown man when you're like 12 you start thinking shit like that And so I don't know. I mean the not cuz yeah, I don't know what you Take away from somebody like this. My brother was kind of like this my brother like he didn't give a fuck about anything he was always the hardest to discipline because I cared about sports my other brother cared about sports too and

And like you know, I wanted to be out. I cared about my friends I cared about hanging out, but that's the problem with like discord is like You can hang out at home, right? They all hang out at home. Where's like they took away being able to go the fuck is that? Sorry the bell rang and I we don't have another guest today, but maybe it's an Amazon delivery. Maybe you know what son you know what? Got my got my IP address So so yeah for our friend here, so Part of it, which I think I don't know if this is your feeling too, is like, you kinda have to live through

the worst parts of it, I think. I do think there's a little bit of like, this is hard because it's sort of the precursor to sending your kid away to college, where it's like, this is the first time you don't control every aspect of their life, and you have to hope you did a good enough job when they were a baby through 10 that in middle school,

some part of your parenting is sticking to it. And I think all you can do is keep him out of like, truly bully this kid until he kills himself trouble. Keep him out of that and You know, you haven't taken anything away anymore. It's like I Don't know if there's anything positive. He doesn't care about sports. He doesn't care about any of that stuff It's I mean, but it's such a short of moving to a better neighborhood Like that this court you that's true no matter where you are But but it could be seminal to something that is a bigger problem

So that's why you gotta try to jump on it earlier because you know They're in a coming-of-age part of their life And this is what's gonna dictate who they are gonna be so so you do have to kind of be on it But I would say this um like genuinely when you say you took everything like what does that mean? Because like if you do indeed Take away the phone the discord the games all of that that matters. He has to care about that Yeah, unless he just sitting in his room or reading. Yeah, unless he's sneaking it or some shit like that He's probably sneaking it. I mean her

So, I don't know he does have to go to school. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I feel I do feel for our caller here because that is tough. I don't have kids. I would tell this mom go to patreon.com slash Stavisworld and become a member of the Stavisworld Patreon. All members get access to the Stavisworld Discord, a very beautiful, supportive community we foster. We do have a beautiful community there.

That would be a good influence on yeah dude I don't know this is so fucked up I this is the crazy part about having kids like and I don't even know if I want to have kids and it's the shit like this that would scare me where it's like you just don't have control over how a kid turns out at some point and everyone goes through their shitty little rebellious phase and I think all you can do is make sure he doesn't get, do your part to just impart the consequences of it. Yeah.

And if they don't wanna hang out with you, they don't wanna hang out, like you can't also be like the cool parent, that doesn't fucking work. Yeah, cause to him, you just mom that get on his nurse. Yeah, you just kind of have to let him work through it a little bit. And I don't know, I'm trying to think about the shittiest I ever was as a kid. I don't know, for some reason I always just kept it away from my parents.

Like we were shitty little kids and we were doing fucked up stuff. But I kind of kept my mom out of it. Were you scared of one of your parents? Yeah, I was kind of scared of my dad but not But I I was scared of him because he's like my dad had a fucking anger problem I didn't I was scared by didn't respect him. You know what I mean? So it was like I was like damn I hope he doesn't punish me but fuck him was kind of the It was that was kind of the vibe in the household where it's like so I was go

I was doing shit, but he wasn't really, he wasn't really plugged in. So it was like, I was doing, you know, like middle school is when I, you know, I started drinking, like I would like, not a lot, but like there's a couple, you know, it was just like the times I started getting into like, and then by freshman year of high school, I was just smoking a lot of weed and just trying to be here. Freshman year was the first time I smoked weed. How did you get in the house smelling like weed?

um, I Didn't I smoke it was ways we started smoking weed Before soccer practice that was my jv soccer was so shitty and we didn't the coach was such a fucking dumbass That we were just getting high. I remember getting high behind the CVS And then going to practice. And then it was more of a like, because that's the other thing is I was a latchkey kid to some extent too, where it was like my mom, my dad was, he had his own business and my mom worked,

she wouldn't get home until late and she worked two jobs. So we would go to like the rec center. Like we had a lot of, there was a lot of latitude for us to get into trouble where our parents didn't see it. So part of me wonders if There's like you might be too observant of your son's life like there is something to that where it's like Parents really shouldn't have access to and yeah, we said horrific shit to each other, too It just was never in writing right so there's a little bit of me that to give her some positivity is like yes

Teenage kids are monsters 12 through fucking 14 is so shitty middle school kids are the worst kids and they're and they're so mean to each other and I just think you gotta know you don't have to be as plugged in like how much time did I really spend with my parents they both were I mean my dad said he was always working he was just hanging out with his boys there's a at the Greek coffee shop and he would like work like one day really hard but like he was never home anyway he wasn't working but it wasn't home and my mom was working two jobs and and I think

about the time I actually spent with my parents like I don't know four hours a week like the more the most I saw my mom was when she would drive me Because I did drive across town and she had a job around there And so the most I saw her was she would either with the days of her when we were carpooling She drove us and we would literally chat Like them that was the most I talked to my mom was when she drove me to and from middle school When I wasn't getting a ride with somebody else, but it's like other than that. It's like, you know You're playing you're playing basketball. You're out and about you're playing video games with your me and my brothers

Like you're in your own room. So part of this might be you're just dinner. Did y'all did y'all have to eat dinner as a family? Not really cuz my dad was never that like we did it every once in a while But it was more like a go just fucking you might warm this literally. Yeah, there was like food. It was like Yeah, it was just like go Me my brothers would have like we would eat together because we got home at the same time Yeah, but it was like and my mom sometimes we would eat together But no wasn't like we never had like the traditional family dinner thing So part of me wonders if our caller is a little too observant of her son's life

Like what's your fault? I you know not really your fault, but like To some degree yes To some degree yes like because and so I don't know but now she said if his grades are dropping and he doesn't want to play sports that't know, but now she said, if his grades are dropping and he doesn't wanna play sports, that's different, but you might just need to give it a second and see what happens here and not constantly worry. And that's hard to say about your kid, I get that. But, you know, I'm sure it felt that way

when your kids were in middle school. Like, you know, you just kinda had to let it, I feel like you just gotta let your kids, you had to run, you know, that shit had to run its course, I feel like you just gotta let your kids, you just had to run, you know, that shit had to run its course, I feel like on some level, right? Yeah, I mean, well, because- What were your non-violent solutions?

Time out. Yeah. Just punitive. Yeah, well, I mean, it's tough for me because like, they weren't staying with me when they were in middle school. So I'm going through the middle school thing now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm doing it now, actively doing the middle school thing now with my 12 year old. So this is my experience with having it right now. And I'm kind of like a helicopter parent. So this is my experience with having it right now. And I'm kinda like a helicopter parent. You know, I am, I'm strict, but also very lenient. I allow you to, if you do the right shit, if you take care of what you're supposed to do, I kinda let you do whatever.

Like the only deal breakers I have is like no drinking or smoking. Yeah. For the rest of your life. Yeah. I get that though. And maybe there is something to that. And she says she doesn't care about, I mean, you know, it might be a phase and it also might, he might just break after a certain point. You know what I mean?

Like after a certain point of having this shit taken away, he might actually start to cave a little bit or he might give into some positive. And I think it's important to just kind of like make yourself a resource to if he's ever in trouble. Like I think this is the point where you're like, you're not gonna be friends anymore. So like for at least this part of his life,

and he'll come back around. Like when he gets older, you will, you definitely will. And when he starts seeing things from your perspective but I think it's important just like be make sure he knows you he can go to you if he's in trouble because he might get into some if he gets into some serious trouble you don't want him making it worse by not reaching out to you right and then if he ever does open up to you because that would happen randomly to where it's like every once in a while you just do want to, you know, after doing the tough I'm a fucking grown

up shit, you know, you might need some support and just be there. And it's just not it's like a not fulfilling relationship. Tina Fey was on a talk show and she talked about having a teen, she has a teenage daughter, and she was like, it's kind of like having a crush on on someone, because it's like you think about them all the time And they don't care if you live or die You know it's like an unrequited crush. It's like that's kind of how did you got kind of played cool? I think unfortunately, but good luck that sucks. You can hear it in her voice How much how like stressful it is and yes shit like this is like like when I'm playing with my kids, baby

I'm like I could have a or my friend's baby I'm like oh this could be fun having kid and then we hear shit like this it's like I'm good I'm good I'm built I'm built to be a stepfather I'm built to come in they've already done all their raising of them all right what else we got eldest got it got a couple more here hey killed again you here totally butchered that one So let me condense that shit instead of having a therapy session in the future guys. We really don't even have here is I? like having a therapy session But basically what happened here is I?

two brothers same upbringing My one brother my younger brother did nothing his entire life. I just feed. My dad actually wrote his college papers, got him through college. Seven years for an undergrad. I graduated in three and a half. Been working my ass off as a data scientist now for about 10 years. Finally bought a house in Napa for a million bucks

and feeling real proud of myself. Yeah, you should, bro. Just to come to a Christmas dinner and find out my younger brother who has never done anything and got a job, softball pitch to him, six figure job, by the way. He now owns a $1.5 million house, which was purchased entirely by my dad.

What? What is this? So I'm just blown away. I can't process this. I don't know how to go about this. I've cut my parents out of my life right now, but I'm not sure if that's the right way to go about this. So any advice would be really great.

They also invited us to Christmas this year in Hawaii, and they said they had tickets for us. And then they uninvited us the day before the flight and said that they no longer had tickets for us and then they uninvited us the day before the flight and said that they no longer had tickets for us so that was another little mind-buck just to parole in there some evil just a sprinkle on top just crazy yeah so any advice any advice would be a greatly appreciated give me a call give you a call I'm not giving you a call Give you a call. I'm not giving you a call. This is your call, mama.

Yeah. Damn, I do feel for this guy. This feels like, okay, this is a classic situation where I would love a little more context. Yeah. I'd love to get into their parents a little bit. Right. Here's my read, my instant read reaction. This feels like like the this happens in like rich families a lot where it's like there's you know the the parents want control and they pick their favorite and there's always there's like one motherfucker that's basically

Cinderella and and has to work hard as fuck their parents just don't like them as much and work hard as fuck their parents just don't like them as much and They just kind of exert their power by picking like a favorite who you know Responds the way the parents want to and his dumbass brother probably always was a spoiled kid I mean seven years in undergrad. That's fucking weird. You're You're fucking 25 You're fucking 25 and undergrad What the fuck? It's so weird so fucking weird and

This guy's you know he says he's working his ass off We do need to know a little more context, but it does feel like For whatever reason either his parents didn't support him. I mean we have a friend we have we have a couple friends where it's like the they feel like Their parents just liked another sibling more like that happened sometimes where it's like it's fucked up favoritism and like our friend our friend You know we're all from Greectown So it's not like no one's buying anyone a 1.5 million dollar house. It's just like they just are nicer to him or whatever

But we had a friend who I remember growing up dude. He was our boy and he had an older an older sibling and His parents would just go all out on birthdays like I remember they had their birthdays were like two months apart and You know ones in July ones in August or ones in June ones in August and I remember During their older siblings part of a birthday party at the very end. They were like, oh and by the way It's a it's our other kids birthday, too It's a combination but all this shit was in like but for the for the first one for the older

You know the older ones so it's like I think this happens and he clearly has a ton of resentment here Like he clearly doesn't fuck with his family and I think it's because they have mistreated him They have treated him as like a second-class Sibling a little bit here and so him buying his own house and then his brother getting to just live a better life Probably because his parents just like him more. Yeah, that would fuck me up too. That's fucking shitty his own house and then his brother getting to just live a better life probably because his parents just like him more yeah that would fuck me up too that's fucking shitty I think it is favoritism I think it's also a little bit of like I see this with siblings sometimes where it's like the fuck ups just get like more help because they're like less

equipped to like deal with the world and I think I think like it's probably a mix of favoritism and that for me here where it's like You know this guy's brother just sounds like a dumbass, but doesn't really care, and he'll be like bailed out Right and this guy would the thing there's okay? That's a possibility because sometimes if you were a complete fuck-up parents would help you But this guy might have a little self for too much self-respect for that right like this guy might be like I want to do better It's a little maybe self-fulfilling prophecy of like I don't want to be a fuck-up, so I'm gonna work hard, and it's like You know it's the equivalent of like if you live off your parents, and you're a completely unself-made person That should spiritually feel bad.

But if you don't give a fuck, that's an easy ass life. And our caller seems to have too much self respect to just do whatever the fuck his parents say and then cash in as a result. I feel like, so me being a parent, I know that you can have favoritism for rank them let's go your daughter's in the room Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's yeah, I get that so so I you know, I just wonder

You know kind of like He has his million dollar house that he went earnestly, yeah, you're good you're in a better position Right, he has that and so, you know, why is he even tripping on the fact that they did that? And maybe he is the fuck up, the other one, and they gotta help him. What I wish I had further lucidity on is him saying that they invited him to Christmas and then they canceled the ticket before,

but he didn't say why they canceled the ticket. Like, was he like excoriating them and harassing them and they knew there's going to be a whole bad thing and it's going to be cantankerous with the family if they showed up because he's clearly aggrieved about the fact that, you know, they gave him this house and so is he causing trouble? You know, like is he being truculent with his parents and they're like look this is not gonna work out for for us so let's just not even have them yeah share that part with us yeah I mean

I think part of it probably is that to me what this reads between buying someone a 1.5 million dollar house and having tickets to Hawaii and taking them away to the point where to them it's not it's not a big deal To me that's why to me it reads a little bit of rich family That's trying to control you with their you know with their presence, right? Like to me this feels like like some some six not quite as rich as succession But like truly like the parents really want to feel like they're in charge of everything and they're using these little carrots and sticks You know to exert control over their adult children

They're trying to still they want to still treat them as if they can do whatever the fuck they want And so I agree with you about I'd like to know more But I think what and I think your point about who gives a fuck you are Self-made you did get you'd have bought your house you did work hard as fuck the the The reward for that is your life where you don't depend on anyone this guy your brother is a pathetic guy Like he's a fucking loser. He's lucky that if he had grown up in fucking Greek town or Detroit this guy's fucked right like he'd be He'd be on pills right now You know what I mean like with a roommate as a 40 year old man

he's lucky and and I I get feeling the He is you almost are like why don't my parents help me that way that way it's like honestly, dude It sounds like your parents are manipulative rich fucking dickheads that their their Handouts are never they always if it's just from the little information It would come with strings attached and you are a guy who didn't want strings attached and you should be proud of that Because it's hard not to fucking Honestly, like I do have a lot of resentment towards like People who had a lot of shit handed to them

Just you know my I didn't grow up with any money And I you know and I worked hard to get to where I am and I do have especially I know you know how it is in the entertainment issue where half these motherfuckers are just somebody's kid right and that's really frustrating But and so I get that but for him, I think this is an opportunity to really interrogate how you feel about your family, right? Like, he clearly made a snap decision to cut his parents out. And I don't think it's just about this.

I think this is just the, you know, this is the like, the moment where it became clear where it all, even without him realizing his feelings, it's almost like his emotions overrode his brain and we're like fuck these people I'm tired of this bullshit and I think if you if you you have to really think about this clearly is a manifestation of their of their families dynamic right one guy works hard as shit because he won't like you know and then again I'm just guessing you probably did you probably weren't as like,

referential to your parents as you wanted, so they made your life harder than your dumb brother who said, who just, you know, said whatever the fuck they wanted to hear. And your family sounds like there's some toxic shit going on there, and I would, I don't know the specifics, I don't know if cutting them out completely is fully warranted, but it sounds like you have

a lot of problems with these people. It sounds like you have a lot of resentment towards your parents. It sounds like they might have poisoned the well between you and your siblings. Like I know me and my brothers had issues, I mean we're good now, we're all very close as adults, but in my 20s dude, I was mad at my family and I

didn't know why right and I go went through some therapy you figure it out it's like oh I mean it comes down to my fucking dad my dad fucked everybody up like where we all got anger problems because we grew up in a you know in a slightly abusive household and all the chaos in our house we just took it out on each other and it was always hard for us to, you know, and this was really just inherited anger from our dad that we all pointed towards each other. And when we figured that out, and when I worked through that, it's like, oh, I, and even to this day, when we get into these arguments sometimes with my brothers,

it's because we still haven't worked all that toxic shit out of our system. So I think our caller needs to really think about I Think what you're describing is clearly fucked up something's fucked up We don't have enough information on it But I think you're well within your rights to spend a little time away from your family figure out what bothers you You know this is disrespectful. I would feel like are you fucking kidding me this guy just gets a better life But at the same time you have a great life. You don't want these people to ruin your shit But I did spend I spent dude my 20s like I lived in Baltimore

I lived across town, but I saw my family less when I lived in Baltimore in a different neighborhood than I do now that I live in New York because I just wanted I needed to do my own thing from like 23 to 25 I needed like two years just kind of like you know figure out what the fuck was eating away at me and I think our caller needs to do a little bit of that too because I think his family's fucked up we don't know why but it's like I there's definitely that that sibling dynamic but also like are his did we nail his parents like are they like these cold rich people?

I don't know. We might be completely off, but there's definitely something he needs to work through, I think. What, you got time for one more? Yeah. Let's do it. So fun, dude. Thanks for coming.

It's been a really fun episode. Oh, hell yeah. Yo, what's up, stuff? First time, long time. I'm calling about a situation. There was this girl I went to elementary school with, so grades one to six, and I was kind of an asshole to her. Oh, boy, I wonder where this is going. Let me pause this. Here's my guess. Found her profile popped up on Facebook, and he wants to know how he can fuck her now That's my guess. That's my guess. Let's see how it goes. It's interesting to hear this

We oftentimes get this perspective from the girl who is now hot and is taking it out on the world You almost never hear it from the dickheads perspective, but let's find out maybe maybe I'm wrong but I could just tell by by the like there's a sort of like embarrassment in his voice and also a pussy thirst in his voice that I hear that I think that's what it is. But maybe not. Let's see. At the time, like I call her like ugly and like slut and like just really mean shit. And you know, in elementary school you're calling her a slut?

You motherfuckers are under that big giant rainbow thing in gym class and you're calling her a fucking slut at that? That's crazy, dude. Anyway. And then we left elementary school and I'm like, that was that. Anyways, like, jump forward like, you know, 20 years and my cousin has been in a relationship with her for three years and Somehow I've just dodged every chance I've had of like meeting them together And I don't know I was just curious like you know because eventually I'm gonna I'm a meter like I think You had any advice of like what to do like should I like you just go up to her and just like apologize right away like should I just like say nothing and be like especially nice I don't know man anyways love this show listen to it all the time Wow that's crazy the okay so I was wrong it's a this is a more nuanced scenario where it's like

that's actually what this is much more interesting Someone you bullied comes into your life Like as the significant other of a family member, that's very interesting Trying to think if this is ever nothing like this has ever happened to me What would you do then? Like I would felt like you or him? Well you know, this could happen. I hate to really look back at what my elementary and middle school life was like because I definitely had some-

He's even remembering fucking- I know, it's tough. But I definitely had some bully tendencies. I definitely like- I feel bad for these guys. It's like it turns out. I'm Professionally good at making of making fun of people and so sometimes I feel bad It was I feel bad because I would let some kids and look it happened because I was insecure I wasn't happy with my shit, and I think I I got bullied and then I was like I realized like wait I'm funnier than these people and then I was also like a

Four elementary I was a big fat kid was like you know I was kind of strong I could I could scrap a little bit if it needed to get there, but So I think this is it's not another realm of possibility That's like I have met people as an adult that That I did in my head. I was like, oh we were friends and they were like, yeah man, you bullied the fuck out of me. Can you imagine you thinking that you, oh we used to have a fight.

Oh that's my friend, that's my little. Like they hate you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause like a lot of my little brother's friends I would just fuck with as like an older, you know. Yeah, you liked them. I fucked with them and even like, and especially there's like hazing in sports,

cause I played a lot of sports, so you would like, you would fuck fuck like they fuck with me as a freshman So I would fuck with the freshman when I was a senior But so this has stuff like this has happened to me and honestly, I am just completely Apologetic that's all you can do you should be like look man. I We were kids. I was a fucking idiot. I was insecure I really apologize that was fucking crazy in my My memories like we have I still have like I think positively and I hope we can just be cool and honestly

Everybody's gotten it because everybody also knows like kid like unless the kid like now there were some kids that bullied me that Are in jail and had lead pain poisoning, right? Those kids are never gonna come to those kids are never gonna like you're never gonna have an emotional like Apology from them because you know, they're like fucking you know, they're never getting out Or they don't have the fucking mental capacity to even remember what the fuck happened But I think that's good. I think that is good advice meet me personally because I'm so non confrontational that you know I just feel like I you know I would definitely hope that she didn't remember and I just try to like be what what he

said especially nice super nice over doing and and and so that and that's that is a possibility yeah you know and But I do understand how you can try and gain empathy for someone by by being contrite and letting them know That at that juncture of your life. You're just a stupid kid They were going through your own issues or whatever and and you're just being a dumb kid And it doesn't represent who you are as a person today and It doesn't by the way, it really doesn't that's not just bullshit. That is true. And I also think on some level You're guilt about it You have paid you have it's like he's made up for it because he probably thinks about it more than she does at this point

like and so I would just you know, I know you mean what you mean about being non-convertational, and definitely that's my nature too, but I think sometimes you just have to do the hard, you have to have the hard conversation, you have to do the hard thing, and you'll feel so much better. I also think she'll appreciate it. I also think it's the kind of thing where, if you if you're just kind of nice if you're overly nice And you don't say what it's about that to me can be like that to me is almost worse because it's like He knows what he did and he's not bringing it up. You know what I mean? It's like he's doing something. It's like if you know it like because there's also the possibility that

This is a long time ago. Some people don't even think about it, right? and it's like that's probably annoying if you're somebody who was bullied and you think about it all the time. But then sometimes, there's definitely kids who if I really think about it, were really shitty to me, that I don't fucking care anymore.

It was elementary, he's talking about elementary school. Like, you know how he might be younger, he might be younger than Asim, he's talking about 20 years. So it's like, he's about the same age range. If you're like yeah, and he might be younger. He might be younger than awesome He's talking about 20 years So it's like he's about the same age range if you're like nine ten or whatever and it's 20 years later But there were definitely kids who were super shitty to me that I'm like who cares. I was if we were all little kids So, you know, but I think She's not going to feel An apology isn't gonna make things worse

going to feel an apology isn't gonna make things worse she has it like like it even I mean the one thing is there's a possibility that she doesn't even remember but odds are if you've been thinking about it this much you were probably so shitty that she does remember so so like I say the apology doesn't hurt anything especially there's gonna be a family member I mean you're talking about I think an apology would be nice if you bumped into this lady at the grocery store You never saw her again, but if she's marrying into your family She's been dating your cousin for three years Then I think it's it's it's extra important that you just start off and again your adults

Not that that relationship doesn't have to be what it was in elementary school And you just start off on a clean slate And I think you know Unless you lied and it wasn't elementary school You've been cyber bullying her this whole time So yeah, dude, just apologize just man up and just and just you know Pay the piper for your poor behavior as a seven-year-old But yeah, I think that's gonna do it unless you have like a quick fun one or was that

All right fuck fuck you all this are all of those green things all of these yeah, it's a bunch of calls Yeah, all those tabs are up there a bunch of calls. We have a ton of calls We have like what thousands three thousand of how do you we through those we need to hire someone to actually? Do go through it, but elders just fucking picks the first 20 usually Some people are really All 3000 though we keep talking about actually actually I've talked about it I'm gonna just say it on the pod so that I remember to do it we're gonna we've been meaning to reach out to our old producer I used to do this on twitch so

my producer Ralph I've been meaning reach out to her we'll get it we'll get it going and it you know if she's available to go through it but we do need to go through all these all these I almost want to do like a we should do like a lightning round Episode where we try and clear as many as we can or maybe a live stream a lightning round live stream where we try and where we try and clear some of these because I do feel bad for people called in but No, not years but months Well, this one is pretty real. This is from February And they have to they have to randomly watch every every episode. Yeah, just hope select it like look. It's not a real day

I'm not a real fucking therapist Yeah, it's like look we hope we can help you but we're just trying to pay the bills around here Hope we were trying to make entertainment here. If we accidentally help people, great. Put your kid in the face, lady. But who knows? But I think that's going to do it for us. Dude, thanks for coming.

Page was great. Thank you. Very fun episode. Check out the projects. Check out the mixtape. Check out the album, guys. We'll have that stuff linked. And yeah, that's going to do it for watch the Meg watch leprechaun

Let's plug your movies from 20 years ago Back to the hood. Let's watch that. That's actually a fucking classic. Hold on. Can I tell a lep in the hood story? Of course the early days I was dating my wife You know the first the first like month or two it was just like I'm just doing all this research like where could we go this way trying to wow I remember restaurant in that bedroom I remember us talking about I remember helping you pick out your little outfit yeah then one day she was like oh I feel bad you're like picking all these dates and stuff I want to I want to put a date together for us she like, let's go see this one movie.

That's Jennifer Aniston in it or something? It was Jennifer. That's the first one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, uh, okay, sure. And we go to the theater, and the movie was Leprechaun in the Hood. She thought it was the first Leprechaun?

Yeah, yeah. The movie was like Leprechaun in the Hood. It was like a really late showing up like a Friday is like 10 or 11 Oh, and people are probably fucked up in there just having a good time Yeah Wow, that's beautiful I had no idea yeah, and I was like wow what the fuck is this movie? Wait, you hadn't seen it before? No, I think no. I don't think so. Why do I have why do I have a memory of seeing it at your house as kids? Maybe I'm all maybe we did as kids

And I just forgot or something because we would go to eldest eldest his family was even more foreign than mine They were fresh fresh off the boat and so his parents you could get away without watching a lot of we fucked up shit At his house, and he had I'll give him credit He had internet before me even though he was much poorer than I was And I was poor by the way. I'm not saying like elders his family But we could we could really yeah, these motherfuckers were barely scraping by And and yeah I just remember us watching a lot of shit that would never have flown in my because we had between our four parents My mom actually could speak and read English and the three my dad both his parents like work

Yeah, especially we were like six and seven. It was kind of iffy so we could get by with a lot of shit at Elders When you're six and seven, how do you know if you're poor like you're just that's just your life Yeah, you got friends that are like I I guess we different, I guess, by having poor friends. I didn't know really how poor we were. I guess I didn't I didn't I never. Yeah, I I was like, damn, Elders is I remember as a kid being like, who that motherfucker is poor and then like and then going to middle school and then going to my middle school friends, and be like, oh wait, I'm

Really I really was their eldest I remember kids coming over to my house and being like what the fuck I mean like are you this is where you live Yeah, dude, literally we lived in a shit, like a little townhouse with my me and my brothers all had one room. My grandma was in the room next to us and my parents had like a room downstairs. And it was a it was it was closed quarters for sure. Like I remember when I went to my friend's house that and then eldest flipped it on us because his family moved to the burbs and they started just doing better. I mean, they're playing in underwater more underwater in their mortgage Elvis is still paying off his fucking family's house His poor sister had to move into their fucking suburban house

But still it was like this motherfucker had a yard. I was like what the Yeah, they did have the glow up, but he also abandoned us he met he went to the burbs. He was too good for us But he also abandoned us. He went to the burbs. He was too good for us. He went to the county. Hoity-toity ass motherfucker. Sometimes you got to. Want a slice of that American dream pie? Truly. Your parents didn't come from Albania to live in a first floor, two bedroom with their entire family.

Well, that's going to do it for us. I'd like to end on reminding everyone how impoverished we were But again eldest was poorer than me for the record That's gonna do it Yeah, that is true I flipped it on you you were in the burbs and now it's like and now how about that motherfucker We're back. We're back to where we're were by the natural order of things has finally gotten back But that's gonna do a page. Thanks so much man great episode. Thank you. Thanks for coming on and we'll see you next time guys. Bye. Bye Bye!