Stavvy's World - Bonus #102 - Live Call Show Vol. 18 [PATREON PREVIEW]

Episode Date: November 17, 2024

Patreon preview. Unlock full episode at https://www.patreon.com/stavvysworld The boys are back talking directly the people! Stavvy and Eldy are back on the Stavvy's World direct hotline helping callers including a guy whose two bros are secretly hooking up, a dude who's worried that he blew it with a casual hookup after being unable to rise to the occasion twice, and an update from one of our favorite callers from the beautiful land of Albania. If you'd like to be a part of future live call episodes, subscribe at www.patreon.com/stavvysworld to get access to the Stavvy's World Discord channel where these live calls are taken. Have a question for a regular episode? Call 904-800-STAV and leave a voicemail to get advice!

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BitMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Alright, so, um, I got a couple buddies that I went to college with. We were all in the same fraternity. And we also like, kinda hang out, because we all work in the same area. Oh my gosh. The fuck's going on back there? There's a dog. My dogs are fighting I was like what is that somebody catch audio of me and eldest fighting over a donut Get out of here! Arrrgh! Arrrgh! It's mine! Arrrgh! Fuck you, Elders! Arrrgh!

Alright, we should be good now. Alright. Alright, so we all kinda like live together in separate houses. There's like probably about ten of us that all went in together. And two of them that live in separate houses kinda of spend the night together all the time your friends Yeah So one of them is gay. He's Like openly gay since we were in high school

All right, the other one we all met in college and he's seemingly straight like kind of like Catholic guy a little homophobic To a homoph like Catholic guy, a little homophobic. Oh, a homophobic Catholic guy. One of the straightest guys you can be. A repressed Catholic who may or may not be overcompensating for something. Interesting. OK, go on. So one of the roommates overheard an argument.

Basically, him being like, I don't like you talking about your type and going on these tinder dates And then he proceeded to hear like Fucking whoa after this so it's like I don't really care Obviously like if two my homies are fucking good for them, you know sure They're getting in some fucking in but well that could really fuck up the friend group though for real, right? Yeah, and it's also like having that those like weird arguments of like I don't like you going on these dates but then at the same time being all secretive about it feels like

Very toxic and potentially explosive. Yeah for sure. No, what are you talking about? A Religious guy who's hiding being gay could act out in a really fucked up way I don't think so right yeah go ahead so I'm my kind of question is it sure like I even address this because I feel like if I kind of like come at it's gonna be it might cause that explosion but I feel like or should I just like let it be Yeah happen regardless this is really interesting because So you guys basically what you you guys graduated college when you all basically moved into like the same Like you separately got apartments in the same complex And then there's like four of us in the other house and then everybody else like Liz with their respective like

Partners gotcha so base. Oh, so you're still kind of on route You're still basically out of college fresh out of college first place You're basically still living like college, but you know you're 21 22 whatever yeah, I'm 22 and Okay, everybody else same age so look if these guys were secretly fucking on their own time, that's one thing. But to do that, under the same roof, like if me, Eldis, and two of our friends had a house together, and the other two guys were sucking each other's cocks, like if they were, okay, let's take the gay shit out of it let's be let's mean it me I'll just mean you are living with two of our buddies and two of them are like

fucking smoking weed by themselves and ordering pizzas just to their rooms and Hiding it from us. We'd be like what the fuck guys. We're all boys here. Why are you hiding like why are you doing that shit? The fact that they're doing something like as wild as you know I'm wild only because it's unexpected as fucking each other and expect us not to know like that's the thing that's almost insulting to your intelligence is like guys we share a bathroom like I know you guys are fucking each other it's weird

it's just weird of you to not expect me to say anything. So, is it- are you roommates with the guys that are fucking? Or are you in the other house? Uh, so, I am in the other house. So, like, all this stuff that I've just heard from the other people. So, one of them lives with me and then goes over to that house. Right. Because you're all friends in the night Yeah, so like oh

If we were in high school then you know having a sleepover wouldn't be weird All in our early 20s. They don't even live in the same house No, it's a different house, and then they'll go like spend the night together Are you guys walking like wait in his like they sleep in the same bed? Well like we it's they come out of the same room in the morning. I mean what the fuck that we assume but what I'm okay no what I'm asking then is like it'd be crazy of them not to to expect someone to comment on it like it's not they suck it he sucks him off in the garage and then you like overhear something You're like that's weird. They sleep in the same, but he

Goes like all right see you boy. You're all watching ostensibly television your friends And then they're like all right time for bed And they go into the gay guy's room and they overhear passionate arguments I mean it's kind of weird not to expect someone to say, like, again, imagine if it was just a girl, you would, you know what I mean? It would be way more open. So I don't, I mean, you could add, I mean, this is crazy. They're like secretive about it, I guess.

Like one night we were all over there smoking, watching Sunday night football and we were at the straight guy's house. So that's the other house, the gay guy lives with me. So we're all over there. And he's like, all right guys, I'm gonna go ahead and go to bed. Like, all right dude, good night, whatever. And then my roommate's like, hey, I'm gonna,

awesome, I'm just gonna go on home. I'm going home and nobody looked at the back terrace. And then snuck back in and went up. We all noticed it, but he's trying to be sneaky about it. Interesting. You see him fucking... He's like, alright guys, I'm going to bed. And then you see the other guy from upstairs throw down like eight sheets knotted together.

He fucking climbs up. He climbs down like Rapunzel and fucks his ass in the shed Fucking crazy how how old are you guys? 22 22 like 23 to 21 and these people would you like call them your friends? Are you just like roommates? I would call them my friends like all of us are like pretty close. We all were in the same fraternity together So like as close as that is right? Yeah, I guess it's close. They're friends, dude It's not just roommates like it is like friends of ours from college the mysterious I'm living with they're gonna be like my best men when I eventually get married like that kind of thing right sure

And definitely that's what you think now. You're 22, but that's that's another thing. That's another that's a whole other discussion, but This is crazy that they're trying to sneak around and like because I you know We all had that college friend group and I can tell you, if someone, if two guys from my friend group were fucking each other, I am talking about it. I am like, what the fuck is going on, fellas? Now, that's easier said than done. I don't even know, though. I think of like-

I can tell the broach coming to them about it, if that makes sense. I think of like... Like I can't know how the broach coming to them about it. If that makes sense. Like... I think you start with a gay one. I think you start with an open... I'm sorry, openly gay one. I'm trying to think of this like, okay, if I was in college. Let's say a buddy from the college radio station or something.

Right. Where it's kind of like a frat or whatever. I guess you're right. This isn't too... It's hard to say two of our friends because everyone is straight but like you would need one gay guy in the mix as well. Let's say a couple people let's say I was living with like a guy from the radio station and they have like they just do like gay shit with some other guy from the radio station. I know both of them. Definitely consider them my friends.

Is this something that I would even feel compelled to comment on or it's like, it's like, if it was random, if it was like, look, who knows? They hooked up some, a one-off or something. You're like, you know what? That's fine. Honestly, you'd be like, this is too weird to get in the mix of. It's a little it might just be experimentation. It might mean nothing. Whatever. I'm just going to take a pass. Oh, my ostensibly stray friend.

Fucking my gay friend. Right. It's going to take a pass. It's the essentially it sounds like they're dating more or less that that at some point becomes a topic of conversation just if your friend had a girl over six nights in a row even if he was being sneaky about it he'd be like hey who was that that was over here? How openly are they like going to bed together going to like the guy's room? He says they're not he says they're sneaking around. They're trying to be sneaky about it they're not like they're not

successful because the whole rest of the friend group has noticed and we're all talking about it being like yeah I don't I don't know like we I'm trying to wrap my mind around this because like yeah it's like it's like you you you would you would think like how the fuck could you not say something? But I could totally see being like your friends with them, but you like only know them through college. It's like they live together It's not they they're friends dude. They're boys. It's like it's like me and you know all the guys I like fucking the mysterious D the mysterious G You know what I mean like all the guys that I fucking lived with, right?

In that house, post-college, it's like that level of friend. That it's like, yeah, maybe in five years, they're not best friends, but they're also right out of college. To them, these are the strongest bonds known to man. You know what I mean? So just for now, it is just really, it's a very strong friendship.

And I am of the belief that it's not even the gay angle here, right? That's obviously a huge thing. Because again, I think if this is a one-off or you heard a rumor of one guy getting sucked off by another guy at a party, you'd be like, I'm just gonna let that slide. I don't wanna open up that Pandora's box.

That's kind of fucking, that re-shifts everything. It's the just, it's like, guys, I'm not gonna, this isn't the fucking 70s. I'm not gonna sit here and turn to don't ask, don't tell, blind eye to you guys being gay. I don't even care that you're gay, right? Like, it's weirder if my roommate, my good friend, was pretending they weren't dating a woman,

and every morning I caught some bitch in a fucking, like, sneak out of my house, and every night I caught her fucking climbing up the back stairs to suck his dick, like, I would just be like, hey man, what the fuck is going on? Or if or if any roommate truly to me this is weirder as a roommate than it is as like a friend asking about whether my friend is gay you know what I mean like so I don't know how long about how long has this been happening we've noticed it going on for probably like three or four months.

Months?! Three or four fucking months?! I mean what the fuck?! Like, not like sporadically, like pretty consistently. Like I agree with you, it feels like at pretty much dating point. They are dating, they're fucking dating. Especially when you're 22, three months, four months of doing this is dating. So look, your options are basically ride this out.

You know what I mean? Like ride it out for, but I guess, okay, you know what this really comes down to? There's no way to maintain a real friendship. If like, do these people matter enough to you to possibly make this situation a little weirder than it is and be like hey hey man like anything you want to say to me like I'm open here because like otherwise you're living a fake friendship with them yeah like you're just like living a weird surface level friendship maybe that's all you want I

don't know but if they are very you want. I don't know. But if they are very important to you, I don't know, you would say something. I don't, this is very strange though. That's the thing you said earlier, like these are the strongest bonds they feel as like 22 year old frat mates, like fresh out of college. This is the kind of shit where the jinks in the armor

really start showing you, you're like, maybe I don't need these guys around. I don't want to potentially cause a hate crime, Catholic guilt fueled lovers murder suicide because I'm like, hey man, can you guys keep it down while you fuck each other in the ass while I watch football? I don't want to, you know what I mean?

Like you're right, Elders. This is the kind of shit. They got some whole other shit going and it's like, I don't know. This is just know this is just This is just the beginning of shedding your college boys or something if if yeah If like they can't even bring themselves to be open about it And you know none of you guys can be like even bothered to be like hey, dude

What is going on? I don't care, but are you guys like fucking each other right right? Well, I guess that's what I mean is like you're right That's what this comes we had to bat it around a couple ways But what it comes down to is are these good people gonna be in your life because if they are You can't live in this fake delusional world where everyone's straight and no one's spending the night four times a week for four months or whatever. Like, yeah, I don't know, man. It's like, I guess I would ask you that.

It's like, if you don't bring this up, what like, like don't you guys talk about, hey man, like at that age, all I talked about with my 20, all we talked about when we were 22 is how are we gonna get some pussy? That's all we cared about our whole lives Revolved around dating and what's going on and going out to bars We were so close though, and there's certain sex there's certain sex things that go down when you're in college and that young that's like almost like

It's like when you face it and you've never seen anything like it before almost is like a sexual trauma or something where you can like freeze up and like don't Even know how to like address it or something. Yeah, that's true No, and you know not saying like two gay guys fucking is traumatic, but this is a kind of thing so But this is the kind of thing where it's like so mysterious, like you don't even like- It is very strange. Know how to like react. You've never seen anything like quite like it before and yeah, that could be a lot for at like 22 to discuss. And- and- For either side.

I will say, even if it was a straight relationship within a friend group, shit like this happens where people try and keep things like this secret. Right. And when you add the element of the one guy Is clearly not comfortable with his sexuality? It is a powder keg and so yeah, dude. I guess bad sorry me And I'll just had to just talk amongst ourselves for 10 minutes To address you again

Yeah, I guess I guess the question that I would have for you is like Yeah, I guess the question that I would have for you is like, do you feel any need to address this? Like, what do you see going on with these people? If you do address it, what do you see if you don't address it? Because to me, if you don't address it, it's all good. It's just you're basically admitting you have a very surface level relationship with these people. But if you do address it, you're basically saying like, hey, I want to be there for you guys and whatever, you know, we're friends, you can

open up to me, I don't care either way, I just don't want you to feel like you need to sneak around or whatever. As long as that's also the consensus of everybody, right? Because if you have somebody who's weird being like, you know, which I doesn't sound like you, it doesn't sound like you have anybody homophobic or anything in the crew, but who knows? Maybe not? Yeah, I mean, him himself is homophobic. Like, outwardly.

Well, his behavior. I'm gonna read some of his things on my Instagram, like that kind of guy. Oh no, I see. Yeah, so I'm a little worried if I address, he's realizes that everybody knows it becomes an issue Yeah, I guess you have to be that personal thing. I see you mean do you do you and all the other crew like you guys? Just discuss this openly right? Yeah Imagine that's the only thing they talk to each other about, dude. Are you kidding me? Yeah.

Yeah, I see what you're saying, dude. That is an issue if this guy is legitimately like, and you are, like, him acting out in a violent way isn't off the table is what it sounds like. And that is scary. And I totally understand that. That's the thing, too. This is like, this isn't like trying

to get your friend to open up because they're trying to hide something. This is, in a way, it's like accusing an acquaintance of being gay or like really wanting to out an acquaintance. That's true. Clearly not like comfortable with their own sexuality. That's a good point. That's a good point. I guess, you're right, I guess the most extreme thing I would do is just make yourself available in a roundabout way of being like, Hey man, if there's ever anything you want to talk about. Like, hey, Billy's pretty cool, huh? Yeah, like, oh man, he's so sick that even me, a red-blooded heterosexual,

If I happen to do some gay shit with him it wouldn't piss me off You know just make it make give him an easy landing spot hell He's such a good guy people would even understand not even judge you for it theoretically speaking of course Yeah, I guess I guess the easiest way is just to like maybe go to the guy who is openly gay first and just like feel the vibes. I think if- Yeah, yeah. Like how do you feel about this?

Because everybody else knows kind of thing. Right, right. Yeah, because honestly, I mean- At the very least, you probably can go to the gay dude. And, cause I don't know, I feel like, I mean gay guys just know what's up a little more and it's like, Hey, you're not dumb. You know we all know you guys are fucking. Right. I don't know, I don't know what-

The other guy is so delusional in so many ways that he might be- has legitimately convinced himself. Right. I mean he sounds like the kind of guy who's dumb enough to post about like groomers So he's probably not smart Yeah, exactly So he's probably fucking stupid He tells me probably once a day that Kamala and Diddy are friends Yeah, sounds like he's the one ordering the baby oil.

Oh man. I mean does that sound right to you? Like, you know, would you feel comfortable approaching the gay dude and just trying to level? I think that's really it. But they need to learn something. Because also, you know, not to be... I don't think you need to have like a family house meeting or anything. No, house meeting, we know you house meeting. We know you're gay

We know you're gay and we're gonna tell your dad if you don't start paying more rent But yeah, dude, yeah, I think after this is very fascinating this is very interesting But I think we've we've basically come down to make yourself emotionally available to the friend who is, you know, the one who's openly gay and be like, hey man, if you ever want to talk about anything, here for you kind of thing, you know what I mean? And don't even be explicit with him, because maybe it sounds like this could, you know, you are legitimately worried, but also if you're worried about your gay, your friend, because it sounds like he's the one who might be in this could turn out to be a weird fucked up relationship right if this if the of the you know quote-unquote

straight guy Feels like he has to prove he's straight that is worse for you like not that we've made light of it a book up But it's like that's kind of that's potentially scary So like it is like somebody that you want to use I think it's smart to just be like to your gay friend like hey, man What's up, dog? You need you know and who knows hopefully? Hopefully this is a happy ending and in three years. They have you know Korean children You guys you guys you guys are fucking you know you're visiting their farm or whatever, and it's all real nice, but

You know, you're visiting their farm or whatever and it's all real nice, but Yeah, dude. I think that's what it comes down to but boy This is something that we could kick around for a while We have we just have to move on because we have other people but I could talk about this for all the whole episode