Stavvy's World - Bonus #150 - Live Call Show Vol. 33 [PATREON PREVIEW]

Episode Date: October 16, 2025

Patreon preview. Unlock full episode at https://www.patreon.com/stavvysworld The boys are back talking directly to the fans!! Stav and Eldy help beautiful Patreon members including a woman who wants to know how to dodge the small talk when guys try to chat her up at the gym, a priest who wants to know how to encourage his kids to be open with him, a past caller who’s back with another doomed situationship, and the return of one of our favorite incels. If you'd like to be a part of future live call episodes, subscribe at www.patreon.com/stavvysworld to get access to the Stavvy's World Discord channel where these live calls are taken. ☎️ Have a question for a regular episode? Call 904-800-STAV and leave a voicemail to get advice! 🎟️ See Stavvy live on the Dreamboat Tour 🛥️💕!!! https://stavvy.biz/ for tickets ‼️ Bonus episodes every week! Unlock exclusive, Patreon-only episodes at https://www.patreon.com/stavvysworld

So just the mess, you're on with me and stuff. So just remind us, I believe we talked to you when we were in Birmingham. They don't fucking know where we were. Whatever. We talked to you on a live call and tour. And were you the one who was like dating a guy forever who just wouldn't fuck you? Oh, yeah. Fuck, what if it's not.

Yeah, but I kind of like, that's not why I called in. That's gone. Like, it's done. I guess the fast update, like, I made him on. The video. You what? Oh, he watched it? He watched the video.

Wow, we're really like laundering. People are laundering conversations through us now. That's so fucking funny. He just like wasn't getting that. And then I was just like annoyed because towards the end he was like, yeah, I agree. And I'm like, okay with what? That like you have a problem that we're going to talk about it. Like what's the deal?

Right. And he just like wasn't giving me an answer. Wow. Towards the end, he's like, let's just like, let's just like, like take it slow and be friends and go hiking and now kind of started yelling at him because that's what we've been doing that's the problem yeah what the fuck this is such a twilight zone like problem of like I need dick and the guy's like I just want to go hiking that's awesome that even after taking like the universal advice that we give which is like just talk about it you

didn't get like even an inch closer to any closure any clarity that's crazy man that probably asexual right he's got to be asexual yeah yeah but why would he say that like i made things so awkward that i'm even calling you guys you know yeah yeah no it's crazy you're right i feel the frustration of your voice because you clearly don't give a fuck but you're like just give me any fucking reason but that's not how life works i guess yeah i got it so even by what was it what did his face look like when he was just when we were basically roasting him he was did he did you watch him watch it? Yeah, and I think like some of his friends kind of watched it, which I kind of felt bad because they kind of know. And I wonder if he's just like dodging them to or he kind of like

opened them to them. I'm hoping. But yeah. Well, whatever. Anyway, so you have a new question. Yeah, so pretty much after that. So we talked, I think like in April and the episode didn't come out until like June. So that's when like I cut off things with him. Yeah. John did 80 naps. And And then I started seeing this guy and things have been good. Like, we're having sex and everything's great. Congratulations. Wow, you're having sex with somebody. You're dating.

What an improvement. Well, like, we're not officially dating, but we're just, like, seeing each other. That's dating, you know what I mean. Yeah. Well, there's, like, a long kind of list now that I'm kind of thinking about it, kind of, like, little red flags. Like, he can't come during sex because he's on SRIs. And I kind of had to, like, pull. it out of him like something's wrong or like wow you really can't just have a straightforward

fling interesting um but yeah i'm kind of i anyways that's what i'm calling um so we took a vacation um up to big bear he went to the cabin um and it was kind of great but then he forgot his medication so he was like a little like depressed couldn't like really do stuff but he was nutting then yeah was able to find It was like the first time in like three months. I couldn't see each other that happened. But that's not the problem. So I kind of blame you Stavi because I was making him watch like episodes and we were watching one that like Sydney was on.

And like the whole joke was like, oh, how she had to like do like straight stuff to like kind of survive. Right. And he asked me, he's like, oh, what's the gayest you've, like thing that you've done? And I was like, oh, Mike, I kind of don't want to answer that question. I kind of didn't want to know from him. Because I already kind of knew by him asking me that there was going to be a story. Uh-huh. So you thought he was only asking to let you know he did a bunch of gay stuff.

So he told me he like, which I'm like, okay, I don't know if I'm hobophobic or like, because I don't really care, but it's just like this seems, this guy seems like insecure and sad. Sure, sure. So he told me about the story about he hooked up with this guy. And he like made it very clear that he's like, Oh, but I was on top. And I don't really care. But like, if that's what you'd need to tell me.

It's really funny. Like, whoa, whoa, I'm only sort of gay. I fucked the guy. It's like, okay, man. I made him the girl. So I was like, okay, just like listening to him. Like, hey, he's being like vulnerable. I like, I guess the transparency.

And I was like, I kind of knew that's what he was going to tell me. And then he's like, yeah, it's just like, he's like a bigger guy. So he was just, towards the end of the conversation, he was just like, oh, I just like, you know, I'm built like struck. I can't find someone to top me. Oh, wow. So I was like, is that a joke or I wonder if he really, like, wants that? Yeah. And it's kind of kept like lingering.

And I'm like, like, is this something. This girl is still curious? And like, is he still by? Like, he's probably, yeah. I mean, yes. Like, he's probably still by. Is he? Huh?

Yeah, he's still. Yeah, he's, he's, he is. for sure. Yeah. Was he just curious. He's like, it was just once. Like, I think he saw me, like, asking questions. He kind of started backtracking.

Right. Right, right, right. You're like, what? Ew. You're fucking disgusting. You fucked a guy? Oh, my God. First, some guy wouldn't fuck me.

Now some gay guy's got a soft dick and it won't even nut. And he's like, should I go? You're like, no, we rent to the cabin for fucking two days. Why do I always do this? Anyways, I need advice. I'm like, my dating is getting better. But it's just like, I don't know. I'm like, I live in L.A.

It's like a very common thing. I'm not surprised. But I'm like, is he using me to like experiment and then later on? Like my fear later on is going to be like, actually like I just needed to experiment more. I'm gay. Can I ask you this? Is it just a fear that I need to like live through or outside? ask more questions, I don't know.

Let me ask you this. Why on, like, this is the problem the first time, too. Yeah. Why the fuck are, like, you're allowed to see people, see how compatible you are, get to a point where you're like, this doesn't work anymore, and move on. You should have done that way faster with the other guy. And now you didn't do anything wrong by, like, look, it's fine to be like, I mean, whatever. if you if I have like I have friends who are progressive whatever and in their personal lives they they're like I would prefer something more traditional or I want somebody who's like you know I want somebody who I mean to to to be like I can't date someone because they're buying they might be secretly gay that's a that's not why you break it off you break it off because the vibes just aren't right overall and like if everything was. perfect, but this was something that you were worried about.

I would tell you have a discussion, get to the bottom of it, whatever, but it seems like you're not that into this guy. Realistically, the bar was set so low because the last guy you dated wouldn't even fuck you. And so now you're just like, you know, I think there's nothing wrong with seeing someone for a couple months, seeing if you have any, like, clearly you want a serious relationship. You're clearly the kind of person who, like, you know, will commit to a fault, it seems like. But I would say for you, I would say for you, you should work on kind of only sticking with something if it feels good.

Like, you've made progress in that this person will fuck you. But that doesn't mean it's like exactly what you want. So keep looking, move on. I mean, that's sort of, that's my advice to you. It's like, and if, and again, if we didn't know your history, maybe I wouldn't give you this advice. but the fact that you were willing to just stick around in a clearly not even a relationship it's like I just think you need to experiment a little more and see who you're actually compatible with instead of just I think it's good when you find someone that you click with

this instinct to make it work no matter what is good but I don't think you're necessarily there right now you know what I mean yeah I think it's just like yeah maybe you're Like maybe I'm already having doubts and this I can't tell if my doubts are real because I don't like this guy and I'm making it a big deal But now I feel bad like ending things. He's going to be like oh, she dumped me because I'm depressed and bye and I don't know Well, I mean tough, but you know that's just dating that is dating by the way, but it's not like you haven't tried I feel like sex is like so early on the compatibility checklist. It's like don't be going on no cabin getaways with like someone that you can like Barely have sex with. Let me tell you that.

Exactly. You fucked up. Like cabin getaway right off the rip is kind of, oh, you know, that's a quick move. Well, we met in June. It's been a while. It's June. I guess it's October. I guess.

But you know what I mean. Like, how much, I mean, how much have you guys like barely been able to fuck because of his like medication? It's like, you know, when you, when you're like, you just can't finish. No, no, you know what? Actually, I take that back. We're just, I think we just have New York. you know, entertainment brain where it's like, we're, we're just like, no, it ain't serious

for years, you know what I mean? It's not that crazy, but my, but my point is like, you know, that early on, it is like, you're like not his like girlfriend, long time girlfriend. It is, unless there's like a crazy, crazy spark in chemistry. It's not even like your job to help him. Or even if you're, or something. Or even if it's early, but you are dating officially, that's different. You know what I mean?

I guess going away with someone where it's like it's a it's in the situation ship zone maybe that's what we're talking about that's another thing is like you're here's the other thing you're committed it seems like but you're not even dating this guy you know what I'm saying like if this would be different if he was like hey I really like you let's date whatever but I don't know I mean I mean I guess what do you want let's let's let's think about that do you see this person to somebody you want to actually date um i think so it's just like if he can like reassure me like my fears of like are you just going to be i don't think he can like oh i'm actually like secure of who i am and like yeah i'm bye and like it's just like the way

he was just backtracking of like oh it's just something i kind of wanted like i'm not sure him being like depressed and like we do have fun and i like him and it's like yeah like i'm not his girlfriend so I don't feel the like pressure so much but I'm just like I don't I don't I'm wasting my time again like how you said just like I'm in this pattern again of just limbo well I mean this is different this is definitely different than the first time for sure I will say are you just being drawn to guys who are just clearly gay and cannot come to terms with it you live in Los Angeles yeah no Los Angeles is crawling with the closeted straight guys. There we go. Redfields, Red State Sula, Turning Point USA eldest.

You live in Los Angeles. I mean, I live in that. I definitely date like sad boy and secure guys. But no, no, no. I guess that's my problem. I was going to say that true is like, is like, what is it about you that draws these motherfuckers in? You know what I mean? Like, that is something to really think about. Maybe you are just like a, almost like a comforting presence where they feel like they can be, you know, they can just kind of, they feel safe, I don't know, but it is something to consider. Now, I'm not going to go ahead and say this guy's, he's not claudey, he told her he fucked guys, but I guess it's like, if that was the only problem, I would say it's not worth breaking

it off, but I also would say you should really consider, do you find this to be, like, are you are you seeing other people like you know that's the other thing i would are you still like looking around or not really he just like we see each other a lot more often and actually have sex and just between family and friends like yeah he's the only person i'm seeing right now yeah well do okay so then maybe it's worth if you think that this is worth um you know being a little more serious about then you should say like hey effectively you're monogamous whether you know just because the way your life is and you could just be like hey i like you I'd like us to be exclusive and just see where this goes.

And that way, you at least have a little more skin in the game. And if he's willing to go with that and like, you know, he's saying all the right things, then I wouldn't get too in my head about, oh, he secretly wants to kind of fuck his ass, but he's too large. You know what I mean? Like, and now look. So that comment, I should not ask again. Like, he was vulnerable.

He was like, I've never told anyone and like, it's something that I just need to do. deal with and like well okay you know that's another thing let's let's also be realistic here it's fine if you don't want that right like you're not homophobic if you don't want to date so like truly like it's you you're homophobic if you don't want people to have rights but you're not homophobic if like the same way where it's like you can be a friend to trans people and not want to hook up with trans people you can be okay with fucking you know with with by dudes and be like you know what for me personally i don't even know why maybe it's fucked up but i just know it's a problem for me that's okay too if ultimately that's how you feel but you you um but like

i wouldn't shame the guy and also there's a possibility that i mean it is it is nice that he opened up to you right that if he's vulnerable that's kind of nice that means he trusts you i also think maybe this guy's just too there's a possibility he might be too freaky right like you guys just might not be aligned. Like, maybe he's opening up to you because he wants to have threesomes with dudes and women and maybe ask you why, you know, I'm certainly interested when I'm talking to a girl what kind of gay shit she's done because I'd love to fuck a girl with the girl I'm seeing, right?

Like, that's kind of why I ask those questions. So maybe he's into some freaky shit and maybe you're not. Like, there's things that could be deal breakers for you down the road. You have to decide, like, is there enough? is there enough for you to be like, okay, I like this guy enough, let me ask you about the exclusive conversation. If he's willing to be exclusive with me, then I can continue to sort of like explore how I feel about him, right? I think that's fine. And again, just because you're dating somebody exclusively doesn't mean it's super serious. It just means let's see what we got here

while we're not dating other people. And the second, you feel like, you know what, this was nice. I like the guy, but it's not going to work. work out, that's okay too. It's totally fine to break up with someone a month into dating them exclusively. You know what I mean? Yeah. I know. I just like, I didn't want to like come off like rude to him. Like he opened up. I do like him, but I was just, I've been avoiding him for two weeks and I have to go see him because we're going to a show tonight. We're actually going to go see Dan Soder. Oh, hell yeah. And I just like didn't know if I'm like, oh, am I going to be like a bitch and say something rude? Like, two weeks ignoring is tough though. Have you been

talking to him or like texting well he texts he texts me like every day like I've been kind of trying to avoid it because I was like I don't really know how I feel like I'm a very fickle person interesting interesting and then I'm just like yeah I don't know if I want to date this guy like am I just not that into him is it all like I don't think I care about him being by I just like want him to be sure of who he is just a hard ask and like him not being like yes in the relationship and be like actually I want to fuck a guy without you and and this is my new relationship. Right, right.

Well, listen. Because, okay, this has happened to me before, like, years ago. Oh, eldest called it. Interesting. Interesting. Okay. Now who's turning point, USA? No, no, you were turning point USA for saying you're in Los Angeles.

It was fine. But I was just like, I don't know if I can be that stepping stone again for someone. Just a mess. Let me just give you the short version here. Yeah. You need to end this shit And on to the next You need to like date more people at once or something

You got to get more plate spinning Well okay I think I think you're right Basically you need to decide Do you feel strong enough To take it to be a little more serious with this guy And explore that relationship Or do you continue

Or do you go the exact opposite way Like Elda said Start seeing other people break it off of them or just make him part of the roster either way whatever you decide but you have to go one of two ways you can't be in this like you're effectively monogamous with him even though who the fuck knows what he's doing and you're not even sure you're not even sure how you feel about him

you have to decide how you feel and pursue either one of those and yes if I had to if I had to just knowing off what we know about you if I had to guess I would probably say you need to kind of just explore a little bit because this is better than the last one but it doesn't seem like it's exactly what you want even even take the gay even take the buy stuff out of it

it doesn't seem like you're you're like he's kind of fun it's fine you don't see like this isn't arranged marriage you don't have to be with the person you know what I mean so I don't know you gotta decide if there's someone who like kind of like just dates one person at a time he's got to like just try to like yeah build that roster keep a cat with some people you don't even need to like be out fucking everyone but just like meet new people

to date simultaneously you need a bigger pool to draw from and just like you know feel some shit out and just you say you say you want someone who you want him to like be a little more sure of himself you need to like be more sure of like yourself and what you're looking for and what you want and just like look at these warning warning signs that like have repeated with people you've dated and just like no one needs just like eh this the vibe's just not right right i've seen this enough i don't need to go on like seven more dates or do a fucking weekend get away with this guy right i could just let him go and like move on to the next but i know what she means where it's like it's gonna be tough to break up with him right after he said she did gay shit it's you you haven't

talked you haven't talked to him for two weeks he's probably been out like blowing out some twinks backs out there like it's like you know I grind her like he's like oh shit where is she no I kind of agree though the sort of getting a little drier over text over two weeks he knows what the fuck yeah and if you want to give him a different rationale that's fine but yeah I think deep down you know what it is and you do need to do a little soul searching about what it is that you're sort of like attracting these the these specific types of guys Send him this clip. It worked for you the first time. I know, I guess, in a couple weeks.