Stock Talk - 4th Quarter Market Risks
Episode Date: September 1, 2023With the markets bouncing around, our investment team has been processing 2nd quarter earnings reports, some of the important economic data, of which there is much less than TV economists, politician...s, and newsletter writers want you to believe, and are trying to already position our portfolios for the 4th quarter of 2023 and first half of 2024. Remember nothing is certain in the markets, nothing except investor behavior does tend to repeat time and time again. Biggest risks to the markets and the economy in the 4th quarter of 2023? In my eyes that’s easy. Tune in to find out what I and the Oak Harvest Investment Team think is on the horizon as we approach the wind-down of the year. #stocktalk #stockmarketnews #retirementlife Stock Talk is a weekly vlog/podcast dedicated to discussing the Oak Harvest Financial Group Investment Team's perspective on what's happening in the market. Hosted by Chief Investment Officer Chris Perras, each episode brings you our views on stocks, the market, and the economy — with a little education thrown in for good measure. Listen each week and help stay connected to your money! Do you need a retirement plan that goes beyond allocating funds to truly fit your needs? We can help you create a retirement life plan customized for your retirement vision and legacy. Call us at 877-896-0040 or fill out this form for a free consultation: https://click2retire.com/Connect About Chris Perras, CFA®, CLU®, ChFC®, Chief Investment Officer As CIO, Chris is the lead investment strategist and director of research at Oak Harvest Financial Group. Chris develops the firm's core market outlook, putting his decades of experience and expertise to work for our clients. He hosts Oak Harvest's podcast, "Stock Talk," available on the website with new episodes each week. He completed his undergraduate studies at Georgia Tech, and went on to obtain an MBA from the Harvard Business School. Driven by a desire to maximize his knowledge and skill set, he acquired a plethora of financial planning and investment management qualifications, becoming a Chartered Life Underwriter (CLU®), a Chartered Financial Consultant (ChFC®), and a Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA®). Important disclosures: Content of Oak Harvest podcasts expresses the views of the speaker and is for informational purposes only. Oak Harvest believes that any data, articles, or information cited are reliable at the time of creation, but does not warrant any information contained herein to be correct, complete, accurate, or timely. The views and opinions expressed herein may change without notice. Strategies and ideas discussed may not be right for you — and nothing in this podcast constitutes personalized investment, tax or legal advice, or an offer or solicitation to buy or sell securities. Indexes such as the S&P 500 are not available for direct investment and your investment results may differ when compared to an index. Any specific portfolio actions or strategies discussed will not apply to all client portfolios. Investing involves the risk of loss, and past performance is not indicative of future results.
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It was 110 degrees in Houston when I wrote this week's episode this weekend.
This is going to be posted in front of the long Labor Day weekend.
Clearly, summer in the southwest is far from over here.
It usually doesn't cool off here in Houston until after Halloween.
So why in the world would I ever think of writing about the risks for winter in the markets this year
or in the first half of 2024?
Because that's what a good portfolio manager does.
They worry about what could happen in the future.
they size up the probabilities if it is happening and take action or more often than not inaction.
The title of this week's episode is Looming Fourth Quarter Risks.
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Post the strong first half move in 2023, we've entered what has become our anticipated sloppy choppy sideways behavior.
Call it a trading range.
Call it a general consolidation.
Call it a lull.
A good swing trader will call it heaven or Goldilocks, as we have seen no net price appreciation in the S&P 500 since mid-June.
More precisely, we've seen little to no net appreciation since Thursday, June 15th, option expiration, cash closing high of 4425 in the S&P 500.
I have to remind investors that this was only three days after hedge fund billionaire and market guru to many CNBC viewers, Ray Dalio, having missed almost 20% up off the October 22 lows, said, it was time to buy stocks.
Take a look at the daily chart of the S&P 500 for the last 18 months.
We got oversold late Friday, August 19th.
Just as many bears emerged once again from their caves preaching a crash is forthcoming calls for the upteteenth time in the last few years.
or decades if you're Jeremy Grant them. Of course, just to sentiment had gotten dour,
the markets started to bounce just that they have historically, more often than not,
in the third-year presidential cycles in late August through mid-September. With the stock markets
bouncing around for the last four to six weeks, our investment team has been processing
second quarter earnings reports. We've been looking at some of the important economic data,
of which there's much less than most TV economists, politician, and newsletter writers want you to
believe, and we're trying to position our portfolios for the fourth quarter of 2023 and the
first half at 2024. Remember, nothing is certain in the markets. Nothing except investor behavior
does tend to repeat itself time and time again. What are the biggest risks of the markets in the
economy for the fourth quarter of 2023? In my eyes, that's easy. First and foremost,
Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell remains inflexible and thinks inflation is running too high,
and like Clubber Lang and Rocky Three, he feels the need to bring the pay.
and keep interest rates high in the fourth quarter and beyond.
What's your prediction for the fight with?
Prediction?
Yes, prediction.
Pain.
As the investment team projected back in midsummer of 2022,
inflation is measured by almost every metric in the CPI
has plummeted symmetrically since it peaked at over 9%.
Since the investment team at Old Carvis likes to look at the real-time data,
not always adjusted and seldom write government data,
Here are a few market-based time series and charts for you.
One-year break-even inflation rates, which peaked out at almost six and a quarter percent in March of 2022 are back below one and a half percent.
The same level they were pre-COVID, pre-COVID relief money printing, and pre-government fiscal spending boom the last 12 months.
One year, real interest rates, which is the premium over-inflation investors earned by buying treasury bonds, has gone from minus 4 percent during the Fed balance sheet,
explosion in 2021 and 2022 to almost positive 4% currently. Look at the chart and let it sink in.
What's this mean to you and an investor? Well, it means the market is saying you will earn a 4%
positive real return versus inflation over the next year by buying one-year treasury bills. Of course,
you will have some reinvestment risk beyond one year. But as one can see, that is historically
high except for the fourth quarter of 2018, or Powell stayed too tight.
monetary policy in Christmas into year end. Okay, one year's too short of a window to look at for
many people. Let's look at real-time market data for 10-year treasury bonds, inflation and real
interest rates. Ten-year real break-even inflation rates in real time in tradable markets say inflation
peaked at over 3.1 percent, and it's now down to around 2.3 percent. That's about the same level
as pre-COVID. It's about the same level as peaks in inflation during the Trump presidency,
and it's pretty much the same peak level every year since the dot-com bubble ended in March of 2000,
22, 23 years ago.
The 10-year real return of an investor buying a 10-year treasury is now around 2%.
Take a look at that chart.
Okay, so I know you're thinking, Chris, pretty charts, thanks for the update on inflation and interest rate,
but what does this mean to me as an investor?
To me, it means that the Federal Reserve is already plenty tight in monetary policy,
and they should not only not raise interest rates further,
they should tone down the academic economic mumbo-jumbo-jum-speak around our star
and get back to looking at the real world and looking at real-world real-time evidence.
You don't get to a 4% real return on one-year treasuries if the Fed is not too tight.
You don't get massive amounts of crime at lower and mid-tier retailers when the economy is rocking higher.
You don't get T-Mobile laying off 5,000 employees in good times.
You don't get Macy's surprised by the exponential increase in credit card delinquencies and losses
in Goldilocks moments, do you?
No.
You don't get commodity prices trading at two-year lows when the global economy is on fire.
And you don't get regional bank stocks trading at multi-year lows if credit is easy to come by.
The biggest risk to the economy and the markets in the fourth quarter this year is that
Jerome Powell and the rest of the crew at the Fed are too tight into the fourth quarter.
It's that job layoffs increase.
The U.S. consumer doesn't show up for the holidays, and the Fed creates a repeat mess in the
stock markets and in the banking system. Just as they did in the fourth quarter of 2018,
when liquidity evaporated into year end and Jerome Powell had to reverse his course.
Will the same things happen in the fourth quarter of 2003 that happened into Christmas of
2018? Because the Fed wants to prove a point. They want to prove that they have it,
inflation under control, even though it already mostly is. For now, our investment team thinks no.
And we expect the second half at 2003 and the first quarter of 2024 to play out much the same way most third-year presidential cycles do.
A pause and a consolidation in the third quarter, an early fourth quarter that refreshes a year-end rally and a strong initial 2024.
But we like others are busy monitoring our data in client portfolios, busy watching how the remainder of 2020 plays out.
At O'Carvis, we currently manage broadly diversified equity portfolios that balance risk and reward for clients.
We don't concentrate our client funds in any one or two sectors seeking to hit a grand slam.
We try to hit singles and doubles and occasionally a home run if someone makes a mistake and we find a stock in the right price at the right time.
For those investors who are less optimistic and don't like risk taking as much, those seeking higher dividend income that grow, those investors willing to forego some potential price appreciation in favor of lower volatility,
we have a dividend growth equity model.
For those investors who are more optimistic,
seeking higher long-term price appreciation,
which does carry higher expected volatility,
without the focus on dividend income,
we have a blue-chip growth equity model.
The overall tools our advisors and financial planners use
are usually a combination of market-based
and insurance-based tools to meet your retirement goals.
Our investment team is busy working on some new
and highly unique equity products,
and few advisor teams have the experience behind them
that our investment team has.
We plan on introducing one of these new equity products for advisors to use as tools for our clients in the not so distant future.
One of these tools may even allow our investment team to express negative views on single stocks, sectors, or the markets in general, if we desire.
Stay tuned.
The future in the stock markets are always uncertain.
That's why our retirement planning teams plan for your retirement needs first and your greed second.
Give us a call to speak to an advisor and let us help you craft a financial plan that helps you meet your retirement goals.
Call us here at 877-896-0-0-0-40.
and schedule an advisor consultation. We're here to help you on your financial journey into and through
your retirement years. For myself and the rest of the team are here at Oak Harvest. Have a great Labor Day
weekend. All content contained with an Oak Harvest podcast expresses the views of the speaker
and is for informational purposes only. It is based on information believed to be reliable when created,
but any cited data, indicators, statistics, or other sources are not guaranteed. The views and opinions
expressed herein may change without notice.
Strategies and ideas discussed may not be right for you, and nothing in this podcast should
be considered as personalized investment, tax or legal advice, or an offer or solicitation
to buy or sell securities.
Indexes such as the S&P 500 are not available for direct investment, and your investment
results may differ when compared to an index.
Specific portfolio actions or strategies discussed will not apply to all clients.
portfolios. Investing involves the risk of loss and past performance is not indicative of future results.
