Stop Podcasting Yourself - Episode 552 - Wordburglar

Episode Date: October 15, 2018

Rapper/writer Wordburglar (Sean Jordan) joins us to talk delivering papers, moving, and old twins.

Hi, he's Dave Shumka. And he's Graham Clark. And together we host Stop Podcasting Yourself. Woo! Hello everybody and welcome to episode number 552 of Stop Podcasting Yourself. My name is Graham Clark and with me as always is a man who looked wonderful in white, Mr. Dave Shumka. Well, it's tonight. It's going to be my first time. Oh, really?

Yeah. Oh, wow. Congratulations. Well, you know what it is. I am wearing a white sweatshirt. My kids are out of town. Oh, wow. Congratulations. Well, you know what it is. I am wearing a white sweatshirt. My kids are out of town. Oh, yeah. There's no peanut butter fingers all over me. I love it. There's no, you know, alphagetti kisses.

Yeah, you could. Peanut butter fingers and alphagetti kisses. You could wear a whole outfit of white. You could you know this is your time that's what i did in winnipeg yeah and it looked great i know that you you were you had bought a white jeans thinking you're gonna wear them all the time yep then then then this was maybe the third time they look good good. Yeah, they're fine. Yeah, for the listener, we just got back from, we're recording this in the middle of our tour.

We just got back from Winnipeg a couple days ago. And in Winnipeg, they famously support their hockey team by everyone wearing white. And so I did that too. You know,

to about two minutes of goodwill. It's two minutes you wouldn't have had otherwise. That's two minutes you went ahead of us. That's true. Our guest today, first time guest here on the podcast. He is a writer, a rapper, a producer, I'm sure. Because he's producing his own tour.

He's traveling all across Canada. His name is Sean Jordan, a.k.a. Word Burglar. Welcome to the show. Hey, it's amazing to be here. I did not expect you to aka Word Burglar. Welcome to the show. Hey, it's amazing to be here. I did not expect you to be that white today. I know. Well, you know, I take care of my laundry. Yep, yep. You're pulling it off. It's a great looking crew neck, I must say.

Thanks. It's from Carhartt, the people at Carhartt. Is that one of the Care Bears? It's from Carhartt. The people at Carhartt. Is that one of the Care Bears? Yeah, Carhartt is. He's the one who was on the construction site. Yeah, he always had a wrench sticking out of his pocket.

Did they have pockets? What did they have? They weren't like kangaroo pouches. No, they had cousins. Yes, they did. That's right. If you were a Care Bear cousin, you were just sort of relegated to being a cousin. You couldn't be like the Care Raccoon. You were just a Care Bear cousin, you were just sort of relegated to being a cousin. You couldn't be like the Care Raccoon. You were just a Care Bear cousin.

How did Care Bear cousins work? They were just, well, you had all the bears. Grumpy. The other one. Yeah. Car heart. Tender heart. Funny heart.

And then they had the cousins and there was like an elephant and a bunny. That's right. But there was just one-offs of the other animals that's right there wasn't like a whole family of penguin uh care bear cousins no it's just the one no they were a care bear cousin it was like no i'm not a care penguin i'm just a care where do wuzzles fit in this equation yeah where do wuzzles fit in where do popples fit in i think wuzzles were the hideous mutant offspring of a Popple and a Care Bear. Okay.

And they were like ungodly beasts. It was like a half lion, half snake or something. Or bumble something. Weird that I remember all this stuff. Yeah, exactly. What was a Popple? They were the ones that went into a... They folded into a little ball.

And then I don't know if there was an accompanying cartoon probably yeah I guess they just popped like yeah how far could you

take that concept you'd be surprised now they don't even bother with doing making a cartoon to promote the thing they just do

they just like release the toys and then people unbox them on YouTube and kids watch them a hundred million times and that's how

you get your toys out there you could do an unpoppling then that's true take a popple and

that's a hard life for them they have to flip themselves inside out for children's amusement they're like the you know

what are those things? Armadillos? I was going to say aardvark. Armadillo. They all, they ball up. Yeah. They ball up real nice. Do we want to get to know us?

Oh, absolutely. Get to know us. So you've been touring all across Canada, starting way out east. Yeah. You know, it's kind of weird. I did an unofficial show in Toronto. Then starting way out east. Yeah, you know, it's kind of weird. I did an unofficial show in Toronto, then I went out east, zigzagged back, did Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, which is amazing.

If anyone's been to Dartmouth lately, downtown Dartmouth is like completely, it's filled with great restaurants, there's great pubs, there's Joel Plaskett's got a record shop and barbershop there. At that track. Yeah, it's like everything, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia is an awesome, awesome place right now. There's Joel Plaskett's got a record shop and barbershop there. That track. Yeah. It's like everything.

Dartmouth, Nova Scotia is, is an awesome, awesome place right now. It always has been, but there's a lot of life happening. And they had a great value village there. From my recollection, they had like one of the best value villages I've ever been in.

Yeah. You got some good scores there. Yeah. And just, it was like one of those where they really didn't know what they had. You know what I mean? It was like, whoever was pricing it was just like, I don't know, this coat, $2.

Popple's t-shirt, score, 75 cents. Come on. Yeah. So I did Dartmouth and then I bounced around back to Toronto for a few shows. And then I did a few dates in Ontario, Ottawa, Kingston, made my way west. I've done Calgary, Edmonton, a couple of shows in Edmonton, just in Vancouver last night. Now I'm going east-ish back to Saskatoon and then back east to further. Wow.

Just rewinding, going to Newfoundland. Oh, I'm bouncing all over the place. So yeah, Newfoundland. Then I'm doing the Maritimes again, going to be in town for Halifax Pop Explosion, doing some stuff in Halifax. Then back to Ontario for some dates and then Montreal. And then, yeah, it just keeps evolving.

So I've got just added Hamilton. It's cool, yeah. It's just this ever-growing, mutating, Wuzzle-type tour. It was a Wuzzle Burg tour It was a Wuzzle burglar tour Yeah yeah yeah And you are

You have a new album Rhyme Your Business You're one of the few guests Who actually brings us The thing Yeah that's true Do the Do the David Letterman thing

On the edge of the desk There yeah Where's my camera That looks good There we go This album number six Five This is six officially

Probably It's my seventh sort of solo album, plus I have like three mixtapes and a couple group albums. So I've been steadily putting rhymes on overbeats for, yeah. And what is rap? Well, for 13 years. What is rap music? Just imagine I'm a reporter in 1981.

Yeah. It's a bunch of catchy words thrown together in rhyme-based form, though it doesn't always have to rhyme, but usually with some type of staccato-esque beat rhythm. Yeah. Because we still have to, like, we still have relatives who we have to explain a podcast to. Oh, sure.

Do you ever have to explain rap to anyone in 2018? Oh, 100%. Yeah, people, it's interesting, you know, the take people have. I mean, people, if they think rap, they'll have a really set mind of what it has to be. They're like, okay, this is what I think rap is. It can't be anything else. But rap, like anything, like you guys know with comedy, with rock, with any genre, with any artistic uh you know expression it can go in a million different ways you go to a fringe festival for theater you're gonna see shakespeare you're

gonna see comedy you're gonna see everything i love shakespeare yeah you know oh my gosh the bar night come on this guy get out of here but it's like it's just those words i mean what even are they yeah i like to say to Shakespeare, thanks for the words. Anyways, yeah, rap is such a versatile art form, and it always has been to me. And it's just like writing and creating stuff. So explaining to people, well, I rap, but I may not be rapping about what you think. You know, I'm going to rap about stuff I love, and that's why the title is Rhyme Your Business. I just rap what I know, and it's what I've always done.

So it's sandwiches, it's comic books've always done. So it's sandwiches. It's comic books. It's baseball. It's comedy. It's whatever I feel like writing about. Now, how did you get into it at first? Because, look, I've seen 8 Mile. I know that probably it helps to get a job at a machine shop of some sort.

You know, machinery. Metal work. What do you think that contributed to his rap? Angst. You know, in as much as it was the flash dance of our time. She was a welder, he was a machinist. Can I make it any more obvious?

Like, did you start by doing, just making your own mixtapes Or going to rap battles No I started I was about grade 5 Really? Yeah we all had rap tracks Which were these cassettes

I think it was Polytel put them out And they were these really cool mixtapes at the time Like late 80s early 90s Of you name it It was like a who's who of awesome rap Maestro Fresh West, Run DMC, Fresh Prince On and Eric B. and Rakim Like just like K.R.S.1 you name it it was like a who's who of awesome rap maestro fresh west run dmc fresh prince uh on eric b and rakim like just like kris one like all these people were on and it was just you just got this awesome mixtape of rap public enemy and and we kids just had them and we dubbed them back

in the day because you know you dub a tape yeah yeah and i would just have all these tapes and i just listened to them all the time i had a little tape deck and I just love them. And then I was just sort of start wrapping them to myself. You know, the Ninja Turtles movie rap, uh, was a big, was a popular jam.

Go Ninja Go. Oh no. Prior to Vanilla Ice, T-U-R-T-L-E power. Yeah. Oh, right. Yeah.

That's a good. By who? Uh, Oh. Or by them. They were like a group that only assembled for like that one song like the monsters yeah space jam yeah yeah uh oh it's totally eluding me right now but but yeah anyways i just started writing and uh in grade six i wrote a rap called the pterodactyl rap just because

there was like a pterodactyl in our classroom and i started if you get in here quick everyone write a rap you promised me no scaring um and that's uh and then i just started writing rhymes and honestly i just always like to write rhymes and then i would just hear words that rhymed like anytime you'd say something i'd just like start thinking about the rhyme and i just sort of always did it throughout junior high and then people were like oh you know sean rap sean'm like, yeah, I just write these things and I just would do them at like school variety nights. And then into high school, uh,

you know, I was just, I hung out with a bunch of my friends. We were all rapping and I met other kids who rapped and we just all wrapped. It was never like, I never really got into the battling stuff because I'm just not that angry. And,

uh, I was just like, I've, you know, nothing battling is dope. There's a very, uh, there's incredibly talented battle rappers. But for angry and I was just like I've you know nothing battling is dope there's a very there's incredibly talented battle rappers but for me it was just more like I love the rhymes and the writing and the structure and doing different things with it and I just I don't know just kept doing it and no one really told me to stop and here I am like a million

years later somebody told me to stop yeah Yeah, that's why. I never. Why? Into rap. I'm here to tell you to stop, actually. This is an intervention. Yeah. Stop pod rapping yourself. I was always, like, I was always intimidated by,

when I was a kid, by rap music because I felt like even, no matter how many times I listened to it, I couldn't sing along because you do have to have some kind of dexterity to be able to remember and also say those things

and rhyme them and say them in the right way so that they rhyme I was so intimidated by it yeah and still am still am to this day you know I'm still learning and practicing every day and I'm sort of even on the way here I was just thinking of rhymes and just looking around. What rhymes do you think of on the way here? I was thinking of trying to rhyme Olympic Station with something, and I was just kind of working on that, and I was like, Olympic Station, and I'm like, am I like... Lymphdic.

Yeah, or yeah, an elliptic agent. I don't know. know like you know uh what would like is there is there a particular rhyme in any song ever that you're like boy oh boy i wish i i wish i had made that rhyme before that person had made that uh curtis blow basketball sport and court ball is my favorite sport i like the way they dribble up and down the court that's basically my whole career has been ripping off that song

yeah it's Dave do you ever have any inclination towards wanting to rap I mean definitely around the same age I wrote a rap song called Frostman the Snow DJ

it was the take off on Frostman the Snow DJ. It was the takeoff on Frosty the Snowman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't remember any of the lines, but I do remember it definitely had like a turn in the second verse where it became like an anti-drug driving song. Is this real?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It had a message. We need to dig this out from the archive i mean it was it was on paper i don't think i kept that paper i'm in the middle of a move right now and it's uh it's very freeing to just be like don't need these notebooks from 10 years ago oh yeah these these things i was writing down were very important, but I've never revisited them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And how many pens have you found so far? Oh, a lot.

Yeah. The one thing that I've noticed in the middle of this move is like, so many things where, you know, when you buy something and you're like, this came with eight pieces, but I only need two pieces, like an electric adapter uh an electric adapter an ac adapter but it can attach to all kinds of different plugs but you really only need the one and you're like i guess i'll hold on to these other things and then now it's just time to throw them away yeah yeah there's uh there's a lot of like where i lost the thing, you know, like I lost the electronic, but I still have the adapter and I still have maybe even the instructions.

But I've lost the actual unit itself over the, you know, several moves ago. So, yeah, I'm collecting. I'm collecting a lot of trees. We had these like it's a weird thing where this was a thing that was necessary you you needed to use these things every couple of years for your whole life uh coin rollers oh yeah doing all your coins you would have too many coins yeah no time to roll them up and take them down to the bank and uh oh i just found a big bag of coin of uh cardboard coin rollers it's uh you know when you're when your daughters get dexterous enough with their fingers they can roll me doobies yeah you can you can

that'll be a fun rainy day activity you can roll all dad's dimes but i don't have any more is the point what happened all your time i just don't i use a card for everything now i've got change everywhere what about you? Change? I carry a lot of change, yeah. Yeah. Coffee for the bus. Comes in handy.

Yeah. Tipping people. I find it all over my floor. Thanks for the nickel. But it's true when you go to a coffee shop and then you use a card and sometimes they don't have a tip. Yeah. And you want a tip still because uh you know

that's the way that's the way it should be yeah although i won't tip if they ask me if i'd like to have some breakfast or something like what that's when i won't tip i have like a very i get coffee like three times a day but then if they're like and can i get some breakfast started for you no you cannot but they're like i know how to ask for food. They're just doing their job. They've been told to say that. Yeah, I know, but don't be a robot. Just be a human.

Just be a person. Yeah. Read the room. I'm like, hey, I'll get a coffee, just medium roast, whatever. They're like, oh, and can I get some breakfast

started for you today? Perhaps a whatever, yogurt-y granola bowl dish. That does sound good. I love those yogurt-y granola dishes dish. That does sound good. Yeah. I love those yogurt-y granola dishes. Maybe some acai in there. Oh, boy, it's a superfood. Yeah, very nice, very nice.

Yeah, did you ever work in like a retail job? Oh, yeah. I've worked every job. Every job? Most of them, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Every sector?

I've done retail. I've done, yeah, worked at bars, worked in phone book delivery. I was a paper boy for seven years as well. Oh, wow. Yeah, you know, restaurants, tons of retail, you know, wrapping. Yeah. Yeah. Every sector from retail to wrapping.

Retail, done advertising, done, yeah. When did you deliver phone books? I delivered phone books. Well, I think I was in my last year delivering newspapers. I'm a retired paper boy. I was putting seven years on the job. It took a lot out of me. This was all bicycle years, I imagine.

No, no. This was the sneaker years. Oh, wow. Yeah, back in. I had a lot of apartment buildings, so I couldn't really ride a bike anywhere. Okay. I was up and down the stairs working on those quads. Wow. Yeah, back in, I had a lot of apartment buildings, so I couldn't really ride a bike anywhere. Okay. Up and down the stairs, working on those quads. Wow.

And yeah, it was good. But then while I was delivering papers, someone said, hey, you deliver newspapers. You know, they pay you twice as much to deliver phone books. So I'm like, all right, it's paper. So I did that a couple of times. Paper is paper. Yeah, yeah.

I'm already, I already got my root. I'm familiar with this, with this product. I, because the last time we had phone books delivered, they were not, we didn't ask for them

because they kept delivering phone books even after people stopped having landlines. Yeah. And so they, I just remember them going through the neighborhood

delivering phone books and running away so no one could say, I't want to take it back yeah i remember my parents uh they had the paper delivered every day and we had i don't remember how long it was but we had some guy who was doing the like the classic like throwing the paper at the, but it would be five in the morning or whatever. So it was terrifying. It was always terrifying. It was never not. Yeah, it's not a cool move.

Yeah. That's not cool. Thwap. Yeah. That's a good sound effect. Yeah. Yeah, well, I'm not known for my sound effects, but here they come.

I just remember we got our newspaper at three in the afternoon it was an evening edition oh yeah delivered to our house oh yeah evening edition yeah wow and then we then it changed to a morning edition and that then it became a thing where like paper boys weren't doing it anymore it was guys in cars and you would if you ever couldn't sleep at five in the morning you would hear

a Honda Civic pull up outside your house the motor still running and a guy throw a paper on you yeah but you were not just you

and your legs that was it me and my legs yeah downtown I had a pretty big root so I was making a lot of cash when I was like

in grade seven grade eight so it just fueled my addiction of music and comic books what was your seven year what what range was it it was what was your seven year plan it was actually it was from grade seven so all through junior high and high school and then the year after high school i was still delivering i've i was picking up extra routes i'm like doing this route when i'm like 19 and uh because no one else could do it and what do you mean no one else could do it well look at the ego on this paper no it wasn't it was more like no one else wanted it right like there were no other it was even by then

they couldn't find any kids who wanted to do this. Cause at this point it's like, it's a lot of commitment, right? I had about 80 customers every day took me, I could get it done in about under an hour. But if you were just given this route, some kids like, I can't walk around with this. Like you're carrying all these papers. Uh, and then, yeah, they did start outsourcing to the paper, paper adults, uh, who were a very sad, bizarre group of people. Um, I'd run into them from time to time oh that's Jerry the paper adult he's on the route a to be for ease and 1976 I've always been obsessed with sort of the paper rooting lore and

that's that's what the comic book oh yeah but uh but yeah it's um he's also written a comic book how many volumes is, how many volumes is this? Issue four just came out. It's called the last paper route. Love it. And we're looking at it now. Yeah. There we are. Cameraman.

Zoom in on this Jerry, you weirdo. This started because when I was in junior high, so my best friend, Alex worked at, uh, he worked on the paper route next to mine. So we would meet up and deliver papers together and hang out every day. And then we'd go home and like watch cartoons and eat cookies and stuff. And we both loved comics. So we started making our own comic. We draw on the back of French class called Adventures in Paper Routing.

And then we'd like photocopy it in the school, at the school basement when no one was around. And so we just basically made these like little zines of our comic. And we brought it to a comic shop in Halifax called Strange Adventures and the owner there was so encouraging and he was like this is a great comic you guys should actually like you know print more copies and we'll sell them here at the store for you so then that started me just sort of making these zines with Alex and then we met a lot of other kids who were making comics at the time and so throughout junior high and high school we we were making these comics adventures in paper rooting. And then we went off, did our own things for years. And then we kept saying, Alex and I were like, you know,

we really want to come, we want to revisit the idea of the paper route comic book, but do it, you know, sort of a more, you know, professional approach, if you will use the air quotes. And that's sort of what we've started doing now. So all these years later. But this you still printed at your high school school you still went to your high school and printed them then my high school's been torn down i tried really yeah it's gone oh that was my dream yeah yeah yeah did someone pants your principal too oh man yeah the um uh that's uh when i was a kid the comic book uh store guy was not encouraging he was the opposite he was he was this uh classic comic book snob that wanted you to feel like uh your your dumb comics that you'd picked up were were dumb comics for kids. Yeah. That as a lifelong comic lover and collector,

and I've worked in comic shops, that's so frustrating because it's such a turnoff. I think now the way the comic industry is going, people are more welcoming, most shops, because you can't stay in business like that. But when you've got these basement dwellers running their special museums, they won't sell you anything.

It's just ridiculous. it's a weird it is yeah it's all it's a very weird uh thing though there's like no other kind of shop where oh yeah i made my own uh i made my own uh orange juice you want to sell it yeah yeah yeah yeah you just bring in different size jars of orange like i never i was never into comic books, but I was really into hockey cards. I drew some pictures of Mario Lemieux. You guys want to sell them? Got some numbers on the back. He was a good

player. He was magnificent. He was Lemieux, actually. Lemieux? It wasn't just Lemieux, he was Lemieux. The best. Yeah. He was probably my favorite player until the early 90s.

When I first discovered hockey, I was like, I like this guy. Everyone likes 99. I like 66. Yeah. The guy I liked was Brad Hull because he endorsed the GT Snow Racer. What's that? It was a sled.

It was a cool sled that had like a kind of a futuristic kind of design to it. It had a handle on it that had stickers with dials and stuff on it. Do you remember GT Snow Racer? No, I'm trying to figure out. Is it for kids?

Yeah, it was for kids. Okay, so one of those like, okay. It was like, it had two. Where would you buy it? Canadian Tire? Canadian Tire. Was it Noma? Was it made by Noma? It might have been made by Noma.

And it was, it had two skis on it and like a seat and then a front ski for steering. It was kind of the creme de la creme of uh of uh you know downhill snow racing well it was the downhill snow racer wasn't it and brad hall's uh picture was on the he wasn't riding on it on the box it was just him and his uh his uh uniform that sounds pretty sweet it's better than one of those just like regular toboggans or something yeah yeah it had more uh it had more control, I guess. I mean, I don't know. It's good for going off jumps.

I didn't do a lot of sledding because of the climate here, but the best sled we ever had was the long, it was long plastic, out of control, like not cool looking, but it went so fast. Like a traditional kind of long within the. Nope. No, not that. Just like a sort of like a kayak.

Oh, yeah. I remember though. Yeah, we had one of those. It was like a thick plastic. And thin. You could feel every bump underneath. Yeah. In the summer, you could put water in it and just sit and lie in it like a coffin.

Did you do a lot of sledding as a kid? I did, yeah. We had a few really good hills in halifax and there's citadel hill which is right in downtown halifax and yeah i don't know if you're still allowed to go sledding on it i mean because after a while kids would just be like smashing into trees at the bottom and stuff and just get out of control but there's a place called the pit it was in the north end and then these are such classic, like, local place, names of places, the pit,

Citadel Hill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Our place that we went was, Ronnie's, it was called the dip. That's what we called our place was the dip. And then you'd meet everybody at the dip.

And, uh, yeah, everybody had a different kind of sled. Now that I think of it, there was no uniformity. Like it was some kids who had crazy carpets. Some kids just had a circle that you just

grabbed on the edge of then they had flying saucer they called flying saucers and then some people had like the old wood yeah like uh you know from a painting kind of yeah yeah the norman rockwell yeah and uh and then somebody would make a jump some some future engineer would make a jump oh sure and like bring buckets of water and like ice it up and stuff and uh you know the first kid would just plow right through the jump kids don't know how to how to make something that you can launch off yeah yeah um but yeah oh so many so many broken probably Probably my favorite is No Activity. Yeah. That and Informer.

Listening to Informer. Or what was his comeback hit? Everybody Wants to Be Like You? Yeah, right. Whoa, deep cut. Yeah. I have not, yeah. Everybody wants to be like you.

That's crazy. I forgot he had another song. And that was in, the video think, was in a chalet with sledding and stuff outside. Nice. Nice. Not enough for my money. Not enough rap videos involving sleds. Or chalets for that matter. Yeah, that's true.

I rap about Swiss chalet. Do you? Yeah. I'm all that plus a Swiss chalet festive special with the Toblerone. Extraterrestrials are phoning home. Oh, man. That's a Canadian thing, right? Oh, yeah.

Is that Christmas you can get this Swiss Chalet meal and then they give you a free Toblerone. Yeah, but I think they took out the Toblerone and replaced it with like, I don't know. Turtles or something? Yeah, it was an inferior bar. That is probably a pretty prestigious position to get like, we're the bar with the Swiss Chalet. Yeah, yeah. I just want to see if there's another song from Snow that I remember.

I've never had a Toblerone in my life because they got nuts in them. Can't have nuts. Are they good? Is a Toblerone in my life Because they got nuts in them Can't have nuts Are they good? Is a Toblerone good? I don't remember particularly liking them To be honest Yeah

I haven't had one in a million years But I like the milk chocolate ones Like a Mirage A Mirage? It's a quality milk chocolate bar It's been a long time since I've had a Mirage Oh, well you should see one I remember the kids,

Canadian kids consumer affairs show Street Sense. Oh, yes. That someone, a kid, a concerned child had written into them

about what's the difference between an Aero bar and a Mirage? And they were like, they analyzed them. They're both made by the same company they both have bubbles yeah and they're they're both the exact same weight so the difference is you know well you like one better yeah yeah yeah but it wasn't like the round tree wasn't trying to pull one over on consumers yeah it was textural like the way you bit into them because an arrow can break off easily

into segments. But the Mirage was sort of one, you know, ribbed log of chocolatey yumminess. Yeah, because there's, what's the one that's like,

I didn't find any more snow songs, by the way. There's like a Mars bar and then there's something else that's exactly the same oh yeah milky way yeah yeah yeah and then if you go to dollarama they have the meteor which i do not recommend it's funny like i will once in a while try a candy from a dollar store and it's like something that's an off brand you are brave yeah yeah yeah

or something that's from a movie that i came out a long time ago like uh it's it's been a year since uh you know spider-man homecoming came out oh sure there's still candies kicking around there's a spider-man homecoming junior men's. Yeah, I tried to have a flyer route when I was a kid, which was kind of like paper route, but more nuisance-based. Yeah, that's a tough one because people would dump the flyers too. Yeah, and you had to assemble them. That was like a big part of the job was that you had to put the flyers together at home,

and that was torturous. Wouldn't that be great if they did that with newspapers? Are they one? Well, that's the front page. So you did that until the end of high school, and then- Yeah, I remember sleeping over at my girlfriend's house at the time and then having to get up to go deliver the news. And I was like, maybe I'm good, guys. Maybe I'll see what else is out there. But I was also, at that point, I was working at the comic shop that I had been previously bringing my paper-rooting comic books to.

So it all worked out. And then I got a job dishwashing, which led to working at restaurants, et cetera, et cetera. And, you know, just kind of following that, that path of jobs to jobs in between doing my art.

So it's been, it's been a fun ride. And now full-time on the art. At the, at the moment. Yeah, I'm doing full-time, but I pick up freelance gigs,

uh, and various things. Uh, like I write a lot of radio commercials, stuff like that. So when things come up, like, you know,

Toronto, I'm living in Toronto right now and it's super expensive. So I'm balancing out, but yeah, the, the art's busier than it's ever been, which is funny, you know,

bumping into kids I knew from junior high. We're now adults that I knew when they were kids, I guess. Amazing. They didn't stay kids. And they're like, hey, you still rapping? I'm like, yeah, man, I'm rapping more than when I was like 15, which is crazy. Wow.

It's good. And you've done, I was looking, like you've played at Comic-Cons and stuff? Yeah, yeah. I played San Diego Comic-Con. I do a show at Fan Expo in Toronto every year. We do an after party there on the Saturday night, which is great because then I get, you know, a real forum for everyone to get my Star Trek The Next Generation

and Spider-Man references. And do people go nuts? It's, you know what, it's awesome because, yeah, for certain lines that maybe your average person who doesn't read comic books wouldn't get, if I drop something, they'll be like, oh, I got this crazy reference. So it's fun.

And yeah, I just actually was in Edmonton at Edmonton Expo, and we did a show after on the Saturday night there. And yeah, it's great to cross over to really kind of combine. I'm just trying to think what rhymes with Worf. I was also trying to think what rhymes with Venom. You know, do you remember Dorf? Yeah. Oh, yeah, Dorf.

Yeah, that's. Tim Conway. Yeah, that's extremely politically incorrect comedy. That's true. Although that's something that's sort of been like, yeah, we know that's politically incorrect, but you can have it. We're not going to spend a lot of time on

bringing Tim Conway down. In that case you could also rhyme like I that would be an instance where I'd be

I would use wharf like a a wharf where you would take your boat to you would rhyme wharf with wharf

yeah in that way it's kind of fun to do wharf with wharf yeah yeah it's all gravy

uh like a plate with just gravy yeah nice reference hey Dave yeah nice um nice alley oopave what's going on with you oh well i'm in the middle of this move which is fun oh like if i could move every day i would do it uh if you're you know if you're

a snail or a mover yeah a mover a snail or a turtle what are the jobs of people who move every day oh like that that is the one i mean there's a lot of jobs i wouldn't do but mover yeah that's one of the jobs i would do i like i i enjoy don't you even as an allergy guy because i find the one thing is like everything's dusty everything's dusty that's true every corner like behind every couch that hasn't been moved in eight years yeah and plus you would be going into people's houses that have cats and dogs and birds can you imagine moving birds oh it would be a nightmare you would move the birds They would be

I mean somebody's gotta move them I guess so Yeah Oh boy Gross So yeah we're in the middle of that And last night we did a show You and I

At the planetarium At the planetarium Wow Yeah yeah So that was like Yeah so it was like a live It wasn't Your conventional version of this show Because we didn't do any of the parts of this show. We just kind of did a slideshow on the ceiling.

Yeah. And then we interacted with the guy who runs like the like going through space show. And we just cracked wise while he did a very good job. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, I was going to say that probably won't be released. That won't be released because somehow the recorder got unplugged. Classic.

But also, it couldn't get released for a couple reasons. There's like a long portion where we're just not talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the music of Brianrian eno plays throughout and he is litigious yeah i was i thought there was gonna be like top secret planetary information no oh yeah there's a new planet yeah we're not supposed to discuss yeah rick the planet they ran out who's got the chocolate bar rights to that one yeah

oh that's gonna be uh it's caramel um but uh the other weird thing that happened to me is

the other day I was uh reading a story to my daughter and I was I had my phone in my back pocket and uh

after talk stalled yeah I was I was I was reading a a newspaper that had been delivered my phone was in my back pocket and it started ringing and uh i picked it up and they said uh yes uh did did you just call 9-1-1 oh and i said no and i thought it was some kind of scam and so i was like no i was like mean about it he was like i just want to make sure everything's okay there like no what like i was

a little bit uh confrontational yeah and are you sure no one called 911 yes i'm sure well sometimes if uh someone if you hold down the home button on a cell phone, that automatically calls 911. And I was like, oh, well, I was sitting on my phone. So, yeah, no, I probably did. So, all clear. So, someone, I guess, at 911 must have heard me pocket dial them. Reading about Nafta Talks stalling. It's good that they called back you know because like um when i was in uh when we were both in winnipeg i saw uh an ad like a psa

for funding 9-1-1 operators where or in winnipeg huh and um because i was watching the mayoral debates there was an ad during the mayoral debates about uh 9-1-1 it was a terrifying ad it was a like a girl hiding in a closet and somebody's broken into the house she calls and there's nobody at the 9-1-1 desk and i was like oh yeah yeah you guys should fund that you should really fund that that's a scary commercial uh have you ever called 9-1-1 no never no this was my first time with my butt oh wow wow well the nafta talks that isn't a you know it is cause for alarm yeah i think we should just walk away I don't think they're negotiating in good faith The last time that I called 911 How many times? Quite a few actually

Just because For whatever reason I've been at the scene of Various events And so I called 911 Recently It was just around the corner We had just recorded a podcast of various events. And so I called 911 recently. It was just around the corner. We had just recorded a podcast,

and I went down kind of around the corner to a convenience store, and there was a guy had OD'd right in front of the convenience store. Where was this? Right on Broadway. Oh, outside the convenience store that also does the shawarma?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there was a guy had overdosed. On shawarma? On shawarma. And he was like, oh, he had sauce all over around his mouth. And his girlfriend, or I don't know if she was his girlfriend, but she was with him. And she was explaining, oh, he's overdosed. And so I got him up and I walked him around and we were called nine one

one. And, and, uh, and then as soon as the cops were arriving, she took off, like she took off so fast because she didn't want to get arrested or whatever for doing whatever drugs,

you know? Um, uh, but yeah, like they thought I was friends with them. They were asking me all sorts of questions. Like what kind of drugs were you doing? I was like,

nothing. Sudafed. Like, I don't know. Um, yeah, he's overdosing, but just walk him around a bit.

That could have saved Jimi Hendrix. Also, Graham, that's amazing. You're like a hero. You're picking up the stranger who's ODing. I think that should be commended. That's pretty awesome.

Yeah. It was, it was weird because the cops, obviously in this city, they have to deal with it all the time. So they, just like when I left, they were like, that's fine. Like, we're not going to try and, like, fine, we'll take him in the car. It'll be fine. Not an ambulance? No. I mean, maybe an be fine. But not an ambulance. Uh, no, it was,

I mean, maybe an ambulance showed up after I left. I was like, once the cops were there, I was like, right, this is now, this is your beat now.

Um, I'm trying to, I'm no Patsy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm no stool pigeon turn. Yeah.

I'm my buddy here. Um, yeah, the, uh, uh, I had a friend who was a 9-1-1 operator for a while like in the tv show 9-1-1 is that uh um what's her name jennifer love he's on it yeah yeah yeah there's a big there's a great cast oh she was so good in party five i just really like yes yes sorry she's great she's great as the ghost whisperer. She was great.

And I know what you did last summer. She was great in heartbreak. Yeah. Yeah. She was fantastic in that one. Flashbacks. Wow. Yeah.

And she, was she in a show where she worked at a rub and tug? Oh yeah. That was a couple of years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Whoa. I have.

Yeah. I missed that one. It was called rug and tub. And she was Jennifer Rug. Yeah. Oh, wow. But, It's called Jandhoppers.

Love is her middle name. I mean, Yeah. Is it actually just a nickname? Is that true? Yeah. All my friends just call me love cute um but like uh apparently at the the main 9-1-1 facility they have their own like water source they have their own like well there so if there's a whatever natural disaster

or whatever the 9-1-1 can keep going for weeks and weeks and weeks. Is that here? Here. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. They have their own water source and they have their own electricity source and everything.

So, you know, if you, unlimited Twizzlers, Oh boy, they got crash services. Um, it'd be a tough job.

911 operator. Someone's got to do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And who better than Jennifer Lovehue? Mm-hmm. It's got a nice phone job. 911 operator. Someone's got to do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And who better than Jennifer Love Hewitt? She's got a nice phone manner, I bet. What celebrities do you think have the best phone manners?

Phone manner? Yeah, just like are really good on the phone. Oh, boy. I feel like anyone who grew up learning phone manners. Yes. I immediately thought of Judith Light. Oh, she would be amazing on the phone, Judith's the boss yeah angela she would answer the phone light residents i think yeah yeah yeah oh boy what did you guys all you just answered the phone hello when you grew up

uh until i was a teenager and then i had to say my because i had to say my name because i sounded just like my dad and so if i said hello then the friend would just launch into a tirade i'm on a rant your dad's friend yeah oh i hate your kids john i'm so glad your son didn't answer the phone. Were there any phone rules in your home? No, I used to love making answering machine messages. So, you know, you do something like, Hi, this is the toaster.

The phone can't come to the phone right now. Or the answering machine can't come to the phone right now. You know, just stupid stuff like that. When you said phone manners, though, I was thinking like phone manners sounds like a place where all the phones go. This is the home of Bruce Phone. Stately phone manner.

I'm Bruce Phone. He's the secret identity. I don't know. Yeah, no, phone manners were very even now, I don't know how I answer the phone. I'm just like, hello, hello. Hello. How dare you call me is mostly what I answer with.

Yeah. Or, you know, what emergency is happening that you're phoning. Like when someone calls me, I'm evaluating. If I don't answer the phone, will they leave a message? And I'm going to have to deal with that? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But I assume if anybody's phoning outside of my folks or whatever

i assume that it's something very very something's gone terribly wrong but then you still don't answer yeah exactly exactly i don't want bad news um yeah how did you have to answer the phone when you were a youngster i was i say hello uh yeah uh and i was the worst at it and like i i everyone in my family i had older sisters so they wanted to touch the phone at all times just wanted to be near it but i just remember one time i had to take a message and i i like this is something my family still makes fun of me for a woman called asking for my mother my mother wasn't home and so she left a message tell her to call louise rose and i could not remember the name louise i knew it was a human name and so i was like huh when when uh my parents got home, my mom was like, anyone call for me?

Yes. Something like Woolies. Woolies Rose. This is a cute family story that people tell about me all the time. Oh, boy. What's going on with you? Oh boy. What's going on with you?

Um, I, uh, well, we went on that, that there tour and then we came back to town and, um, I was eating at a diner and, uh,

eating with a friend. And the whole time, the whole time I was just out of the, the corner of my eye, there was an old lady with her hair tied up into kind of like, you know how like a little girl would have her hair kind of tied up into a point that kind of goes straight up, you know, Cindy Lou Who style? Yeah. But this was an old lady. So I'd never seen an old lady with hair tied up like that.

never seen an old lady with hair tied up like that and and so i was like it just kept catching my and she also was wearing some very funky glasses and um you know she ordered a hilariously big pancake platter that she was never gonna finish so there was a lot going on that i was just tracking uh out of the you know side vision. And then I turned my head a little, and there was an exact double of her on the other side of the table. A twin? Like an identical twin, but had the same Cindy Lou Who hair and the same exact pair of funky glasses, and was wearing the same outfit that the other lady was wearing

and i've never seen that before i've never seen two adult people dressed and are twins in real life i've never seen it and um was it these ladies yes it, it was. Yeah. The Robbins sisters. Yeah. I thought it was Louise Rose. Yeah. And her sister will leave. Yeah, we got, as we were getting up and leaving the restaurant, one of them said, oh, I overheard you were talking about TV. We work in TV. And I was like, of course you do.

What other thing could you possibly possibly they were on that series of unfortunate events yeah netflix show yeah yeah and they're from here yeah and uh apparently like i was googling them and they uh wore like really funky costumes to when the maybe like a the royal family was visiting here and they like upstaged the royal family because these two old twins wearing really funky outfits were in the reception area for uh uh who was it who visited us uh i think uh did william and the and kate yeah yeah yeah so and but like i've just never seen that before how did you know that it was them just i they're i see them around town really yeah oh wow i think i've drive by their bus route from

time to time it's it was so crazy to me that that that you know i mean obviously if you're twins you're and you're fine with dressing alike show show business is the route you're going to take. I don't know much about them. I assume all twins dress the same until they can choose their own clothes. Yeah. And then at a certain point, and then they never dress the same again. Do you think there's ever the case of twins who dress the same then they stop dressing the same and they're like you know what life hasn't been going great since we haven't been dressing the same and they come

back together and if so what do you do do you say where did you get that outfit i'll go buy the same one or do they have to buy all new clothes i think they start from scratch i think they go okay what what uh what's our general style and And then they just hit the boulevard. Yeah. What's our general style? Funky twins. Funky identical twins. Do you think fraternal twins ever do that?

Dressed the same? Yeah. Their entire lives? Why not? Jason and Justine Bateman? I don't think they're actually twins. Yeah. But like, i don't know i just it's the first it's the first time i've ever seen that in my life because it was it was mind-blowing yeah old twins they're they're uncommon yeah i'm just sort of yeah they die young yeah one of them does that's right um yeah i uh i remember i was talking to a young uh young comedian

and he was talking about oh my brother also does comedy in saskatchewan uh he's my identical twin and i was like do you not understand that you should be doing that as a couple like that you should be a pair of twins doing comedy together? Head and cross is mine. Yeah, like the Lucas Brothers do that. Is it Lucas Brothers? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And the Sklars.

Sklars, yeah, yeah. And the Smothers Brothers. Oh, yeah. The Mario Brothers. The Mario Brothers, yeah. I find that a lot in adult life. Like when you are a kid, you're aware of every twin, you know? Yes.

And then like, you'll know someone for years as an adult and find out, I have a twin brother. Yeah, that's true. It's not, uh, because you, all the twins, I know they all went to the same school. There was no separate, there was no. What a nightmare would be to have to drop your kids off at two different schools. Oh yeah. Did you go to school with twins?

Yeah. Yeah. I was just thinking, I'm like, I haven't, I don't think I've noticed twins since I was in school. I'm sorry to all the twins out there, but I've just, I don't know many twins now. Yeah. But yeah, in school there was always a couple of twins and they would dress the same and everyone was like, oh, cool. And then, yeah, I don't know what happened to them for a while um yeah so uh you know that was that's what happened to me i got to i got to see and meet tv twins yeah the robin. And, you know, they've been in stuff since the, you know, the 80s or something.

So here's to many more years of the Robin sisters. A toast. Yeah. Maybe they'll be in the next, the twins sequel. Are they making a sequel? I've heard a long time ago they were going to reunite to do something. Why not? Danny DeVito, you know, he's still busy.

And Arnold, I think he's doing Terminator 6 now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's crazy. That last Terminator was so bad. It was so bad. What was that one called? Terminator 5. Yeah.

A revolution. Can you name all the Terminators? Oh, boy. Terminator? Okay, I'll start. You know what? Let me do the first few. Terminator.

Yeah. T2, Judgment Day. Yeah. Terminator 3 with the girl. I think Terminator 3 was maybe Rise of the Machines. Rise of the Machines, yeah. And then 4, I think, had an R title as well. 4 was the one.

Revolution, Retribution, Renovation. Oh, these robots are making light work of this house. It's a DIYutions you know renovation oh these robots are doing making light work of this it's a diy you know you just really wanted a new kitchen what uh which one was christian bail and he was in like either that was four yeah it was yeah it was like regenesis or there was a genesis one oh yeah maybe maybe Maybe Genesis was 5 And it had Arnold Well there was A CGI Arnold in it Wasn't there a

Yeah Robocop versus Terminator Genesis game Yeah I think there was Yeah That's amazing Deep cut

Yeah yeah yeah The Terminator Yeah Terminator 2 Judgment Day Terminator 3 Rise of the Machines Terminator Salvation Salvation Oh Salvation

Terminator Genesis Genesis Not Genesis Oh yeah with the Y Geni Yeah G-E-N-I-S-Y-S And

Coming out next year Terminator 6 What was Rise of the Robots? Rise of the Machines Rise of the Machines Was it had Claire Danes in it Okay yeah She was

I don't know who she was. She wasn't a Connor. And then it was, I can't remember the name of the kid who was. Oh, Nick Stahl? Nick Stahl.

He was a grown up John Connor. And Christiana Loken was the Terminatrix. Yeah, Terminatrix. There's a Termator fan somewhere listening just screaming at us yeah yeah but i've got everything right yeah and uh you know what the that last one though uh where they had to explain why the terminators like

old they're like they didn't do like uh they didn't cgi him young they did but then he was also old and uh they said well the organic material on top ages and it was like why why would that be why would they do that why would they make that well it that's what organic material does yeah that's true yeah i guess i can't be mad at it look i watched it i'd watch it again i watched it and clearly forgot most of it so yeah yeah they it's a lot it really leans on the time travel aspect of it and uh who are you who are your guys who are your favorite guys like the terminator yeah i like the termininator? Yeah, I like the Terminator. You like the Predator?

I like Predator. Who do you like? Robocop? Terminator, Predator, and Robocop. I think Terminator's top of the heap for me. How about you? Yeah, I'd say, you know, Predator's pretty cool. Predator is pretty cool.

What about, okay, let's throw in Alien as well. Oh, Alien's probably the top. Yeah, Aliens. Aliens, as a series, I think they still beat all of them. But just as a xenomorph. As a xenomorph, I'll take an alien over predator. I mean, they're scary. Although predators have been known to team up with humans.

That's true. Like in Alien vs. Predator. Oh. So predators could be on your side. I think aliens, they just want to kill everybody. Yeah. There's never been a friendly alien. E.T. Oh, yeah. You just want to kill everybody. So yeah, it's, there's never been a friendly alien.

E.T. Oh yeah. Well, you always got to bring E.T. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. I do. Alf. Yeah, Alf. I mean, not to cats though.

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Overheard. Overheard's a segment in which, you know, if you hear a thing or see a thing out there, say a thing. That's the way it goes. And we always like to start with the guest. If you would, please, word burglar. Yes. Well, you know, I've overheard a lot of different things on the SkyTrain over here. goes and we always like to start with the guest if you would please word burglar yes well i you know i've overheard a lot of different things uh on the sky train over here i overheard an

announcement that said the california roll was created in vancouver really i found really weird because why wouldn't it be called the vancouver roll yeah probably to sell but they would sell better if you could you know tell people Like hey this thing's From California Yeah I'll take two Yeah Hawaiian pizza Wasn't invented in Hawaii

Yeah It was invented here In Canada Huh Yeah Just blew my mind Yeah Oh yeah

And then if you say Like a Canadian pizza Everybody would think Canadian bacon Not They wouldn't think Hawaiian pizza Yeah exactly

Yeah So you know That's why You gotta sell We do have a Canadian bacon Not They wouldn't think Hawaiian pizza Yeah exactly Yeah So you know That's why You gotta eat So you gotta sell it We do have a British Columbia roll It's got salmon in it

Oh really What else is in it Uh Weed Cool Yoga Basically Yeah

Yo It's got some yoga In it And I don't know Bad drivers Um Dave Do you have an I don't know, bad drivers. Dave, do you have an over? I haven't overheard.

This is, I mean, so when I was in Winnipeg, I went to this breakfast place that was the patrons seem to be old-timey Canadians. maybe not the most woke fellas

sure so this is very bad but this is uh like my basically a summation of the worst thing you can possibly hear for an old white man say uh the guy is obviously a really good lawyer and judge to be considered for this job. Does it really matter what he did 40 years ago? Lordy, lordy. And the guy he was sitting with just said, politics. That guy sitting with him was like, I don't want to have this conversation. Yeah, yeah. But we're talking about politics?

Politics. Oh, boy. like i don't want to have this conversation yeah yeah but we're talking about politics it's like oh boy if uh he had said something about baseball the guy would have been like sports sports yeah i don't know sports um yeah the uh uh it's always weird when uh especially if it's somebody that you don't really know is coming at you with a heavy opinion like that. And you're like, ha, ha, ha. Like, there's no, you just want to say, like, yeah, I don't know, man. Politics. Well, I want to move on. When I was in Toronto, speaking of tipping, I was like, we got picked up for the JFL Festival.

And it wasn't like, there was no money exchanging hands. But in my mind, I'm like, do I tip this guy for driving me? Oh, yeah, yeah. And I was like, oh, shoot, I only have a $20. I'm not going to give this guy a $20 bill, but he's doing a good job. He deserves something. And then like the first thing he says to me is so racist. And I'm like, okay, well, I don't feel bad anymore. You know who's a bad driver

you know what kind of people are bad drivers well yeah that's and the coffee shop if they ask me that then they don't get the tip

so you know I'm like I'm gonna give this guy oh no he didn't pass the tip test so he didn't pass the tip test yeah oh yeah

yeah the guy the guy I had as a driver pleasant conversation the whole way well mostly about the weather oh boy that's the way to do it yeah Yeah the guy The guy I had as a driver Pleasant conversation Yeah Well mostly about the weather Oh boy that's the way to do it Yeah

How was the GFL 42? It was good Yeah? Yeah Did they do more than 42? Yeah Yes We were number 61 I think

Yeah they They start I think 42 is where they start And then they build out from there So Yeah It was fun It was a fun festival

And like got to do A bunch of different shows And The live podcast was a fun festival and like got to do a bunch of different shows and the live podcast was a lot of fun that's awesome yeah who would you guys have on it paul f tom oh paul f tom oh yeah we were just talking about yeah and so yeah it was a lot of fun in a movie theater it smelled so nice in there oh popcorn yeah popcorn maybe a little bit of licorice it was the movie theater had comedy events and the palestine film festival yeah and uh it was uh there were lineups for all the different events and uh walking in i was like oh yeah i could see which ones for the yeah i guess i know um you there with your uh you know like inside joke uh mr show t-shirt you here for the deep political discourse yeah uh deep dish political discourse though so good so saucy what would you say you're overheard

is this time around uh mine was an overseen from last night it's not really uh funny but it was amazing i've never seen anything like it was it the view was such a beautiful view last night yeah that's true yeah um there was a car uh flying down the middle of the street that the whole front of it had been in an accident and so the whole front of it was kind of going under the front wheels

of the car and sparks were going everywhere and this car was cruising and it was being chased by another car so it drove into, I've never seen a maneuver like this, drove into a parking lot to try and lose the person behind them

and then out the other side of the parking lot and then down the street. Did it lose them? No, not even close. Follow the smoking car. Yeah, and it smelled so bad. It stunk like burnt tire and burnt plastic. Was it like someone trying to do a hit and run or trying to run from a hit and that was the guess there was somebody running from a hit and run

uh but uh man oh man i never considered in action movies when there's a chase scene that probably that stinks so much for all the people who are just walking around i've considered what i would do in a chase and I would constantly be honking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let everybody know. I don't have a siren, but let me through. It's true that in action movies they don't honk

very much. And they come so close to hitting someone. Oh, yes. But it's also, you don't think about how much it smells. It smells terrible. All that burning rubber. This is over-smelled about how much it smells. It smells terrible. All that burning rubber. This is over-smelt. Yeah, it was over-smelt.

I would also be honking because chasing makes me horny. I also have overheards from people all over the place. Oh. Yeah. If you want to send one in, you can send it in to spy at maximumfun.org. And this first one is from Josh from Austin, Texas. Joshton. Yeah. Oh, I love Austin. Do you?

Yeah, I played South by a few times. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. South by. Southwest. Oh, yeah. What type of venue

Did they have you in? I was in a place I think it's called Like the Flamingo I played there a few times Okay And I played in a donut shop One time

There you go That's pretty awesome And a couple And a Mexican restaurant And a bunch of different venues Yeah So I've done it I've been there about

Three or four times And done multiple shows While I've been there It's the type of festival Where every standing structure Be a fan exactly yeah yeah um great yeah austin's wicked town yeah yeah i've never been you no no let's go guys let's do it 2019 yeah road trip boys on the side am i right guys what's that about i don't know a road trip Riding in cars with boys Am I right? What was the one Where

With Drew Barrymore Home Fries? No And Chris O'Donnell And they're driving in a car It's not Joyride Because that was a horror movie Yeah

It wasn't Home Fries No it was Home Fries Was there such a movie Called Home Fries? Did I make that up? Home Fries? Yeah there such a movie called Home Fries? Did I make that up? Home Fries? Yeah, yeah. With Drew Barrymore.

Okay. Maybe she gets pregnant? I don't know. I don't know what Home... Why have I seen Home Fries so many times? It sounds like it could be a movie. As far as I will comment. I mean, all this Drew Barrymore talk.

I mean, I have to mention the word burglar line. You say your girl looks like Drew Barrymore. I met her. She looked like Drew Careymore. Yes. Oh, boy. That's old school. Taking it back.

Yeah. Yeah, CBC Radio 3 award-winning lyric. Yeah, lyric of the year. Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah, we were talking about radio three yeah that was 2006 or 7 wow it's been a long time yeah r3 yeah shout out cbc yeah and drew carrie looks better than ever he does he really does he i mean hey you know i date him you know

yeah he grew his hair out a little bit he wears funky new glasses his hair out a little bit. He wears funky new glasses. His hair is a little too the color of his skin. He's just a beige. He's just beige. Just a wave of beige. He's like a live action Dilbert. Yeah. Yeah. This is Josh from Austin.

I was recently in the produce section of my local grocery store. An old man walked up to the big container of white grapes, sampled one, chewed on it for a moment, then loudly proclaimed bullshit and walked away. I, uh,

are they, they're not, are they eating grapes? White grapes? Yeah, white grapes. Yeah. In a grocery store? Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know that I've ever had a white grape. Every grape in a grocery store is eating. You can eat You can eat all the grapes No one

Nobody's taking home To stomp them Yeah No one's making wine Are there scenic grapes Or Yeah Just to add ambiance

While you're shopping Yeah those wax grapes Yeah Those rubbery Rubbery guys Yeah So Chris O'Donnell

And Drew Barrymore Made two movies Both in 1995 Together Really The one i was talking about was mad love okay what else were they at the bachelor oh close oh the batman forever oh the batman forever yeah she was in a scene yeah she was in one scene she was working with. Two-Face? Two-Face, yeah. Yeah, they were working on a new project. Laying down beats. This next one comes from Katie from Calgary.

During my university days, I worked at an independent video store in Edmonton. When we played movies in the store, we had something called TV Guardian that would cut out the audio when there was an inappropriate word and and would replace the word in the closed captioning with a replacement word that never ever worked for example the f word was replaced with hug and vagina was replaced with form uh these never made sense in context as you can imagine but my all-time favorite was when we played the family favorite chicken run when the closed captioning would normally have said cock-a-doodle-doo it changed it to the more family-friendly jerk-a-doodle-doo um wow yeah i uh uh you ever seen chicken run no a lot of fun a lot of that that claymation

yeah is that the appropriate term claymation yeah claymation for yeah yeah i don't know why i saw it but i saw it at a university movie theater with a bunch of stoned that was the time yeah yeah with a bunch of stoned uh university students a fun day not hurting anybody it's the for the wallace and gromit crew yeah yeah love them yeah yeah i love them too they make those car commercials. Oh, do they make the Chevron with Tech Runs? Yeah. Oh. Yeah.

They made a whole series of like animal ones that were like that, that was audio from interviews with real people, and then they animated it, and they were different animals. Yeah. I feel like I went through that sort of grommety, claymation phase. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah, we all had a,

yeah, we definitely all had a grommety. It kind of, it took America by storm. It really did. It captured our hearts. Now I kind of forgot about them. Yeah, but you know what? Did you know that the California raisin

was invented in Vancouver? That's where they recorded their first film. Yeah. California angels, everything. Yeah. It's all Vancouver. That's where they recorded their first piano. California Angels, everything. It's all Vancouver. This is from Claire L. in Dublin.

One side of a colleague's phone conversation. She's saying, Hello? No, can I have a different piano? I don't need a grand piano. Why don't we have a piano? A respectable library should have a different piano i don't need a grand piano why don't we have a piano a respectable library should have a piano it just sits there and looks pretty it doesn't have to be played or anything and then she rounds it out with i like michelle pfeiffer i have no idea what

you're talking about but yeah i can be her yeah but it's baker boys absolutely that's what they're talking about yeah the most famous sitting on a piano photo maybe there's an ann getty's one of a baby sitting on a piano i mean i assume i don't i don't know what a star is born is about but i assume lady rolls around on a piano that would be amazing to go to a show where somebody rolled around on a piano i'd love it i mean it'd have to be a pretty grand piano. Yeah. Do you think Elton John will roll around on a piano for his last tour? I mean, he's done everything else.

It's all been leading to this. That would be great if he busted out the old Donald Duck costumes and all that kind of stuff. Just for one last Bizarro tour. It's not his last tour though, right? He'll tour again. I don't ever remember him touring.

Didn't he tour with it wasn't him and Billy Joel went on a tour together? I feel like Elton John's always on tour. I feel like Okay, okay, fine.

He's like the Harlem Globetrotters. He comes once a year. He has the Washington Generals open for him. I was a Barry Manilow household, so, you know, growing up. So Elk John I knew a little bit, but it was really the Barry Manilow discography that I became very well acquainted with. Oh, yeah, he influenced all my songwriting, for sure.

He wrote the songs. He did write the songs. He didn't write that one, though. He still does. Do you know what else he wrote? Do you know what his famous commercial jingles are? Was it the Band-Aid? He did I Am Thug on Band-Aid, yep.

Oh, wow. And did he do a McDonald's one, too? He did Like a Good Neighbor, State Farm is There. Oh. There. Nice. I got to say, I took my mom to see him in Toronto a few years back. Tickets were ridiculously expensive, but that guy puts on a show.

Yeah. And he's like very, and you know, now he does Vegas and everything, but give Barry Manilow his props. He's an incredible performer. Yeah. And he was like, he pulled out a joint and like mocked, like smoking a joint on stage. Like, yeah. You know, you've got like all these like 60 year old women just like oh swooning at barry and uh i think he married a guy named gary

so it's barry and gary manilow true story yeah that's the one thing that same-sex marriages have brought us is the barry gary larry yeah harry har Harry I mean it just It doesn't I guess there are Terry's You know Absolutely Of all Of all genders

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I was on my way to work. This was probably about 9 o'clock at night. And I drove past one of those charter buses that usually have the screen on the front with whatever destination they're going to. But instead of that, it just said, I'm lost. So hopefully they're all okay. Oh, no. You get on the bus, you assume they know where they're going. How do I stop this thing?

That's what it just says on the thing. Whoa, whoa, oh, oh, whoa. That's what it just says on the thing. Whoa, whoa, oh, oh, whoa. I've been on a couple Greyhounds where I was like, I'm not sure this guy knows what. It feels like we're pulling off all of a sudden to a weird small town. What I don't like is when you're on a bus or you're waiting for a bus and it either will say not in service

Because like someone's training Or I don't know why a bus would not be in service I'm standing here Just let me on Yeah you're driving by anyways And the other one is Sorry bus full Which I don't appreciate either

Because just stop and see how many people get off And then let that many people on Yeah yeah yeah, yeah. Yeah, sorry, bus full. Like, I feel like. Sometimes they'll even, like, go past the bus stop to let people off, like, further down the street just so you don't get the wrong idea. Yeah, it's something I put up with a lot with the bus, the sorry bus full. But you know what?

I just wait until somebody gets out the back and get on. You're not the boss of how full it can get. You're not the boss of me. Yeah. As possible guest, I approve that. Okay. Here's your next phone call. Hey, David Graham.

It's Aaron from Houston. I just walked four miles up a mountain in Utah. And while I was up there, I heard a guy say, Whoa, you could say the Earth is God's big art project. Well, off I go. It's true. Never finished, really, you know? Yes, it's always on the run.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Always adding a new animal? Is that what's happening? What is god working on these days yeah uh like a some kind of uh super virus yeah that's true yeah some sort of thing super bug that's gonna take most of us down yeah i wonder what'll be left i mean they always say cockroaches are gonna outlive you know any kind of epidemic or kind of apocalypse or whatever that they'll somehow maintain. And Twinkies.

Twinkies, cockroaches. But I wonder if there's just like any animal that really is going to, something maybe that lives in like the, you know, Marianas Trench or something like that. Well, I think the, like, so what, is there going to be a mass extinction event like a plague? I think that's my, I mean, if I had to put money down on how it all, it's going to be plague-based. But won't that then, like, if we wipe out half the human population, won't that just make, like, slow down everything else that's wrong with the planet oh that's interesting so the plague may save the day well i mean like it wouldn't um

not if you get the plague no yeah yeah but like wouldn't the uh you know the human race that would buy the human race a lot of time i think yeah that's true that's uh your thoughts yeah no i'm still thinking about what creatures would survive. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. I just saw a quiet place, you know,

you see that film? No. There's the monsters that I don't want to spoil anything. Well, everyone has to be really quiet. Yeah. Everyone has to be super quiet. Otherwise the monsters come and get you.

Right. And, uh, yeah, but they, I feel like they would survive. They would survive. Sure.

Yeah. Yeah. So the one thing you think would survive but it doesn't exist. I think Robocop would survive. I think Predator would survive. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, he can do anything. I like the Predators.

Yeah. I heard the new Predator film, not great. That's what I heard. That's a shame. That's a shame. But he'll be back. He'll live to hunt another day. Great thing about Predator film. Not great. That's what I heard. That's a shame. That's a shame. But he'll be back. He'll live to hunt another day.

Great thing about Predator. Predator, if you're listening, I think you're still cool. Yeah, Dave Graham and Predator guest.

Here's your final overheard. Downloading and playing and going. Hi, Dave and Graham and possible guests.

This is Lisa calling in from Syracuse for the overheard. I actually called in like a year ago with one where a woman was wearing a T-shirt that said official smile maker and she had the most pissed off look on her face. And he didn't hear it, but that's okay. I forgive you guys.

I do have a better one. Who are you? So I was at a McDonald's and there were two workers talking to each other, and they couldn't have been more than early 20s. If that, they might have been late teens. And anyway, one of them was talking to the other one about someone being a player that they knew. And the guy asked the other kid, he said, you're a player, right?

And the guy said, nah, I stopped being a player in middle school. Oh, wow. So when you were like 12. Anyway, off I go. That's when I hung up my... Your playing? Yeah, my playing. Your cleats?

Cleats. Yeah, because you can't live that life forever, know it's it's and what made you a player how did you how did this how were you a player well i was a baller and i was a shot caller so those those were my two starting points and uh you know i wish honestly i was a bit tall yeah i get you yeah you understand yeah um and uh things just evolved from there that's fair it was very organic yeah um uh ever a player i was a player yeah then i became more of a worker okay yeah you know you know i try and go back to the play you know but yeah i still try and play every day yeah gotta play every day every day well you gotta pray

just to make it today yeah I pray to play I pray that I can just play more yeah now that brings us to the end of the episode

oh no yeah that was so much fun well it had to end sometime logically it just had to just like the plague

yeah exactly I mean it's waiting to begin. Whoa! Afternoon ghost. You did scare me. You said you wouldn't scare me.

There was a, something fell off a thing, and it was, I mean, it was a thing that happened. Yeah. I'm not really going to go into specifics, but something happened, and there it was. Yeah, afternoon ghost. You are touring all across Canadaada yes uh where can people find out where this will oh yeah why don't you just say where yep you know what go ahead and we're rolling the easiest place is word burglar.com okay and that's w-o-r-d-b-u-r-g-l-a-r you'd be surprised how many times people spell it er-R or just get it wrong completely.

Like I played Newfoundland one time. There were posters all over town that said the word bugler is playing tonight. Word bugler. Word bugler. That's my website. True story. Word bugler. Hopefully when I go back there, which will be before this airs, I think,

but they'll get the name spelled right. Yeah. So this will be out on the 15th. Okay. So I'll have more dates going all the way up till the end of the year. And then I'm going to do another tour in the spring. That's the game plan. But yeah, I'm always putting out, there's new videos coming out, new singles, all kinds

of stuff happening. Got new vinyl coming out in January and CD. And I'm on all the different musical playing places you can listen to music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can't form sentences right now, but yeah. It's okay, there's a plague. And Dave... And by the way,

if there's a plague right now, sorry about all the plague jokes. We're pre-recording this. We don't know exactly, we can't say. Oh, but it keeps us current. Yeah. Oh boy. The episode where the guys predicted the plague. Oh, boy. The thing that would kill them.

At the end of an episode where we have somebody who has an album out, we like to play a track. What track should we play? Well, I would recommend Rental Patient, which is the first single off the new album. Okay. And it's about that time when you had to rent videos.

And I think if you ever had to, you know, leave your house to watch a movie on your own couch, you would understand that you had to be patient when you went looking for a video.

Yes. And this is all about that. And yeah, there's a video for it on YouTube now. And I highly recommend all your listeners go check it out. Okay. Yeah. Well, thank you so video for it on YouTube now, and I highly recommend all your listeners go check it out. Okay.

Yeah. Well, thank you so much for being our guest. Do we have anything? No. Let's just get out of here with Rental Patient. Bye, everybody. Are your kids renting a movie this weekend? Saturday afternoon matinees aren't what they used to be.

To begin with, kids don't have to go to the movie theater. They can bring a movie home from a rental store. What you know about going out to catch a movie at your own house? Waiting in line to watch something on your own couch, no doubt. You had to get up and get it or ask an adult if your pick was restricted. Get this, I know it's hard to believe it, but if a movie was rented, you just couldn't see it. None to download from your humble abode. You'd have to leave your home bungalow and run down the road. Hope the local shop had a copy in stock, cause if not, gotta find something else to watch.

And if you thought I was done with flipping your mind, they only let you have the flick for a limited time. And if you didn't rewind, you were the evilest dude, worse than the term previously viewed. Even though you paid, it was only yours to borrow. Cause after all of that, you'd have to bring it back tomorrow. Yo, take it from a rental patient. You had to have rental patience. Checking the shelves of every destination. They might have a copy at the next location.

Yo, this is for the rental patient. Selected discs and cassettes for playing. Popcorn sets through the ventilation. Better get something good cause your friends are waiting. Okay then. Now in case you didn't know the lengths you had to go just to get a video. It was a ritual. A major event.

When you got your own card and were able to rent. Swear everyone went. Families to film buffs. Stoners and punks who try to steal stuff. Or just loiter and eat the free popcorn. Sneak a peek behind the curtain they stock porn. And every visit was a hunt and a gamble. We'll be right back. Beguile, cause if you don't want to find, you better make sure you return it on time. Yo, this is for the rental patients, selecting discs and cassettes for playing. Popcorn sets through the ventilation, better get something good cause your friends will wait. The top movies were dirty, they all got around, in and out of every last player in town.

Wow, I mean, why you think each release came with fingerprint stains and some pizza grease? Seven day rentals for seven bucks, kid. Test your luck, cause what you picked you were stuck with. Why put up with this? Glad you asked. Cause buying back then cost a lot of cash. It was the age of renters, made more memorable. Cause we knew what we had was ephemeral. A flicker on the screen, a brief time and moment.

Of taking something home, knowing you didn't own it. You don't appreciate the grace, till you take a risk. Beta VHS, DVD, Laserdisc. Maybe this is just how they were meant to be seen. On pieces of plastic, you're sticking machines. Yo, take it from a rental patient. You had to have rental patience. Checking the shelves of every destination.

They might have a copy at the next location. Yo, this is for the rental patient. Selecting discs and cassettes for playing. Popcorn scents through the ventilation. Thank you. Gigantic video, jumbo video, video flicks, video pics, MT video, video 99 Johnson's video in Scarborough where I saw the G.I. Joe cartoon movie And they had the Super Famicom games, and the Famicom games with the converters That was crazy, Blockbuster you can't forget about, Hollywood video 99 Queen video, video free Brooklyn, whatever video in every city yo This is for every rental patient out there. Uh.