Stop Podcasting Yourself - Episode 700 - Mark McConville

Episode Date: August 17, 2021

It’s episode 700 (backwards 007). Comedian (and backwards James Bond expert) Mark McConville joins us to talk haircuts, Rufus Wainwright, and wine tastings.

Hi, he's Dave Shumka and he's Graham Clark and together we host Stop Podcasting Yourself. Woo! Hello everybody and welcome to episode number 700 of Stop Podcasting Yourself. My name is Graham Clark. With me as always is a man who, he's my 007 and my 700, Mr. Dave Shumka. Yeah, I'm a backwards James Bond. I'm the knob, it's the match. And that's fun.

You let martinis drink you. sure i like them actually do i would prefer it stirred if i could get it and furthermore um the you know i'm like none of my watches are have cool gadgets in them yeah i guess his watch is still maybe have, what do you call it, like garrot wire or something like that? Yeah, piano wire. Yeah, it's like a jaw harp. You can do like a boing, boing, boing, boing, boing, up on Cripple Creek kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the opposite of James Bond.

Our guest today, very exciting, first time here on the podcast uh you've heard him on super ego pistol shrimps and you can hear him on stitcher premium for with his show mascots it's mark mcconville hey macarena there he is hi guys good intro that's hi mark hi the macarena never goes out of style so macarena is like um boy uh do they still do it at like weddings i do yeah usually during the wedding ceremony now they get you to do unprompted and to any song that's playing if anyone objects to this couple being married to the Macarena. Was that the last international dance

craze where everybody was doing it? No. No, the locomotion was more recent than that. No way. Locomotion was old. How about Gangnam Style? Oh, shit. How about Soulja Boy? No, but that's not the world. Only America

knows Soulja Boy. We don't even know who it is up here. Yeah, that's true. We only america knows soldier boy we don't even know who it is up here yeah that's true we're already get him soon i think that the macarena had sort of a simplified choreo choreography that almost anyone can do whereas i feel like gangnam style was just sort of a song that had that sort of pony riding dance single there's a single ladies dance sure oh yeah kind of the queen waving oh yeah yeah dave's doing the pumping the pumping the hands no it's great dancing's great you know what dancing is uh is the it's for my soul what uh you know architecture is you know for the building and that's where you can write that to the bank. I will write that to the bank.

Write it and care of. Set yourself a desk envelope. Uh-huh. And give me some skin, bro. Do you want to get to know us? Yes, I do. Get to know us. Mark, I do. Get to know us. Mark, it's so nice to have you here on the show.

Yeah, I'm happy to be here on the 700 Club. Yeah, that's right. You're the first member of the 700 Club. It feels great. So you can give every other member shit for another hundred. Graham was like, a few weeks ago, I was like, should we do something for episode 700? And he was like, we'll do a James Bond thing. Really? And i was like should we do something for episode 700 and he was like we'll do a james bond thing really and i was like uh really yeah yeah yeah and then i guess he booked the friend of the guy who has the james bond podcast yeah the guy who's seen i don't know

five of them do you can you list about five i've seen all the daniel craig ones and i've seen uh unfortunately i think i've seen all the Daniel Craig ones and I've seen, uh, uh, unfortunately I think I've seen all of the Pierce Brosnan ones. Oh yeah. Those were, those were let down. That, that was my generation's bond.

I don't know why everyone's such a snob about those. They're not terrible. I just, you know, there was a point in my life where I went from going to zero movies to going to any movie. And that lasted about, I don't know, 10 or 20 years yeah yeah so if there was a bond movie in a theater i was seeing it and that was the era that brosnan was yeah bond

would you would you theater hop oh yeah all the time yeah nice yeah nice yeah i owe big hollywood studios lots of money or do i owe the theater money? I guess I don't, which is, I mean, you owe a little cash to both. Yeah. Did you buy popcorn? Probably not.

Oh, okay. Well, yeah, you owe money. Maybe it would buy soda. Okay. Well,

they make, you know, they make a lot of money on those. The concessions. Yeah. Yeah. Cause these guys, you know,

it's, it's pennies to them to make it. When do you think that they realized that people were bringing in food in their purses and bags and fanny packs was it the first day the first day have you ever been busted uh no i got busted going into a music festival once with food yeah alcohol oh yeah yeah they're looking for that yeah yeah yeah my call it one of my college roommates and i we would go to lots of movies and uh there was a i went to the university of wisconsin and there's a pizza place called rocky rococo where they make

just big thick slices of bread with red sauce and cheese on top i mean it is thick thick With red sauce and cheese on top. I mean it is thick. Thick carb-tastic pizza. And Matt brought. A slice of pizza. You'd get a cup of breadsticks. In like a medium soda cup.

They didn't have a container for the breadsticks. They'd just shove them in a cup. Nacho cheese sauce. And an extra large soda. And he snuck that all into a movie theater one afternoon undetected even though you could smell all of it and i think they just didn't care and i just that's when i realized that anything was possible to sneak into a theater yeah pretty much i got i got caught uh carrying two party subs in my pant legs uh going to lilith fair yeah you were walking super frankenstein

straight leg yeah yeah yeah that's how you guys watched this documentary that's on hbo about woodstock 99 no i i it's in my to-do watch oh man it is wild it's wilder than even i thought it was gonna be but uh tell me about Well, the one thing that's... Because in Woodstock, the first Woodstock, and Woodstock 94, there was rain and there was mud. And so there's all these mud, people jumping in mud. And that didn't happen. But for fun.

Yeah, for fun. Yeah, like jumping in mud and sliding around. And at this one, there was no mud because it was an Air Force base. Because of climate change, yeah. Yeah. There was no mud. So what they air force because of climate change yeah yeah it was no mud so all what they were playing in was backed up sewage from it was an air for air would you say

it was a former air force base was where it was held oh my god yeah so it was like not on grass it was on like hot concrete oh man yeah every decision they made was bad and the opposite of what... Fred Durst, really, man, he mixed it up. I want to see a documentary about Woodstock 94, because that's the one I remember. Yeah. But nothing happened, right? Well, Green Day got pelted with clods of mud. Yeah, that's true. But mostly, like, Collective Soul played and Candlebox candle box and the cranberries they just did

the letter c i think it was uh mark have you ever been a music festival man not really i i went to horde festival in 1996 is that uh uh blues traveler at all i think i would describe it as neil young at all oh neil young back i don't know that blues traveler was on that year i thought they owned it i thought that was their thing it might be now and they may have played it but it was like the uh morphine played ben folds five a huge draw for me that was the whole reason to go for me yeah then folds five like they were it they were in the 90s i was a huge fan of them uh but i also got to see lots of other oh primus played toad the wet sprocket oh shit okay this was a good festival and i think i just said i don't need to do this again this was great do you know what horde stands for i just googled it i don't i bet it starts with an h

yeah h word or if it's a silent w might start with a w sure h-o-r-d-e it's not a horde like w-h-o-r i i horde around in my time it's like that's the horde you're thinking of yes yeah yeah yeah horizons of rock developing everywhere no i'm fine without that yeah it was the touring summer rock festival originated by blues traveler in 1992 i put my money on the counter that's a good recall because i i i'm fairly certain by the time i saw it they were not on the festival or if they were they were at a second stage that i was why would yeah that would i mean come on like if you're gonna do it put yourself on the main stage it uh it's probably you know a hostile takeover from uh phil duet's crock they thought

we can take we can overrun blues traveler and yeah yeah we're teaming up with big head tot of the monsters let's get those blues travelers guys yeah let's push papa what is his name pop popper john popper john popper pop papa john papa john love that garlic dip and sauce. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. I've never had Papa John's here in Canada. They're not as everywhere as they are in the States.

But I wish I could say you're missing out. Yeah. But you won't. Because you're kind of. I mean, it's not trash pizza, but it's. It's no Rocky Rococo's. Rocky's is awful, too. I mean, as I get older and taste great pizzas.

You're from, are you originally from Wisconsin? Yeah, I grew up on the border of Wisconsin and Minnesota. Oh, yeah. So all of our news and culture came from Minneapolis, St. Paul. Right. Where does our news and culture come from? Seattle. Yeah, Seattle.

Sure. Yeah, I watched King 5. No, it is true. Like in the 80s and 90s before, you know, before there was like streaming and everything, we had to watch just the American channels. Yeah, we had to record Blues Traveler off of TV and then watch it later. You had to make your own tape. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. off of TV and then watch it later.

You had to make your own tape. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, I lucked out because when I was a kid, I remember watching Mystery Science Theater 3000 on UHF. Oh, yeah. Somebody just from a tool shed in the middle of nowhere was broadcasting

this weak little signal, and I could get it in my house. I remember early on watching that and thinking, like, everybody can watch this, but the truth is that wasn't the case at all. signal and i could get it in my house i remember early on watching that and thinking like everybody can watch this but the truth is that wasn't the case at all it was really a regional thing at that point yeah that then blew up a little bit was it where was it from minnesota yeah they were they were based i think their channel was in this town called saint cloud oh yeah home of joel otto home of who joel otto gelato the ice cream he was a calgary flames centerman a lot of hockey out of saint cloud yeah yeah yeah

now you're looking him up yeah i gotta find if that's where he's really from yes minnesota there is yeah good face-off, man. Yeah, absolutely. Took it to the boards every time. Got it in the scoop and took it all the way down the ice field. Yeah, the... I'm trying to think of, like,

not the UHF, but I had, like, a police scanner that was kind of like a CB radio thing. A ham radio? Kind of like a ham radio. Yeah. And like you could hear people and there were people like broadcasting their own kind of crazy radio shows.

Like it wasn't talking back and forth. It was just somebody. That's what we're doing. Yeah. But you had to look for it. Now everybody just downloads us from Verizon. Yeah. Everyone just gets us off Uber Eats.

Um, Mark, us from verizon yeah everyone just gets us off uber eats um mark mark hello what have you been up to this is this is the weirdest of times and the nicest of times um what have you how have you been doing what have you been up to you know what um my wife and i are prepping our uh we're prepping for a garage sale i know that's not exciting no it's very exciting it dawned on me that we shouldn't be doing this because i'm just inviting whoever to come and look through junk at my house oh you gotta yeah yeah a lot of garage sales you'll need a vaccine passport yeah that's right i'm considering it though i don't know how i would enforce it uh taser don't sell your taser use it uh but yeah we're we're sort of we spent a lot of time my wife and i and our dog just at our house yeah as i think a lot of people did and we are now sort of going out and seeing uh music we saw the Princess Bride

with the Hollywood Bowl Orchestra. Nice. Which is fun. My wife's a very long-time subscriber to the Hollywood Bowl, so we go see concerts there, which is good. It's outdoors and it's big

and it never felt like, oh, everybody's right on top of me, but it's just starting. Those feelings are starting to creep back up a little bit. Yeah. But this garage sale, let's talk about it.

What are we getting rid of here oh um what's the big ticket item what do you think it's going to be like that goes for the most well we have a desk that we sort of think we might get rid of and a bookshelf nice but it's a lot of tools we could sell some tools yeah okay because there's like a lot of tools at the flea market there's a couple tool guys and that's all they have they just have hundreds and hundreds of tools and you'd be you'd be an idiot to buy tools anywhere else because this i'm not handy and so i feel like these tools would be better used what what somebody these are the ones you're finding at the flea market are all stolen yeah but that's like the number one thing to sell or just stolen tools yeah no number one thing to

steal is stolen tools um why do you why did you get the tools well before i had my own tools before i was married my wife had her own tools and then you registered for a bunch of tools and then i stole a bunch of tools and i just said, I don't need 38 screwdrivers. So let's get rid of some of these. Where are they? They're just like, you know, handyman tools.

Nothing's like you're not, you don't do woodwork or anything. I don't do any of that stuff, but I, I now have some stuff. Christina lost her dad a few years ago. So we have just been sitting on a pile of his stuff too i am i am so ready to jettison stuff that's my piece of advice for people is just if you i'm

i'm trying to marie kondo just read yeah just get it out get it out if you haven't used it or touched it or looked at it you don't need it get rid of it yeah yeah we have some major power tools that her my her dad was an electrician and so i we have like a giant like bank robbery tools oh nice oh wow you got like you could drill into a vault with some of the stuff that we have a plasma cutter you know something like that yeah well i don't know about that we definitely have a sawzall that is sawzall yeah so do you know the sawzall no oh it's like uh it's an enormous well it's i don't know if it's spell it spell it for me i think it's s-a-w-z-a-l-l but it's a oh it's a big electric high-powered saw that i think is for maybe for demolition it's not a subtle tool right yeah it's for it's for cutting big stuff

what's a subtle tool like a screwdriver or like a i guess a chisel maybe well chisels probably not that oh and all one of those like a precision tool yeah yeah yeah a quiet you know a quiet you know like a knitting needle yeah yeah yeah or if you were gonna cut you know if you were gonna um like a drill with a diamond tip feels like a very well that feels like a very james bond tool yeah but also you know you're making a very precise hole is james bond handy because we got to stay on topic for a second. Graham promised me this was the reverse James Bond episode. I'd say so. I'd say that he'd have to be sort of a James of all trades.

Can he do, can he like make a gadget like MacGyver? No, he has the guy that makes the gadgets for him. Yeah. But like the guy always makes the gadgets for him yeah he's got like the guy always makes the perfect gadget oh yeah the situation that's pretty wild isn't it that there's really no he never has a gadget that doesn't get you it doesn't get his gadgets get used that's what I should say yeah it's a real it's a real um you know Cheekhov's gadget yeah and like what did they introduce like one or two in every movie right he doesn't have like a battery of yeah gadgets just like check out this thing and he never uses the ones again from the previous movie they're one and done no q q it is

q right the quarter yeah q never says do you still have that omega watch no i thought i was getting a new one it has a little heat beam that comes you don't have that no no i used it okay but you it it's not like it runs out we could recharge i know but it was it was a little slow it wasn't how do you mean slow it wasn't keeping time i was always late oh you were using it as a time piece well yeah i knew i needed the the watch part was trash it would just heat up a lot yeah what time is it it's time to laser view to this guy it would tell me and i'm like i'm i don't need to laser anyone right now i'm i'm you know i'm on vacation i'm on island time yeah yeah who in your estimation from the limited uh james bond films that we've all watched is the best

of the villains oh for me it's gotta be the flasher i'm gonna say freddy krueger yeah shit i forgot that they mixed it up it was weird because james bond fought freddy krueger yeah shit i forgot that they mixed it up it was weird because james bond fought freddy krueger and then also fought jason but never never at the same time they could never at the same time who's the best bond villain uh i don't know you know for me it's got to be le chiffre that mads mickelson it is bad, that's a good one. That's good. That's solid. I'm not sure that I know any of the names except for Dr. No. I just know Le Chiffre is French for the digit. I guess I liked Christophe Waltz in that last film.

But he doesn't, I don't know. Was he the last one or was Bardem the last one? Bardem had a fight. I get the the moody ones i got very confused but i also got all the other ones yeah well there's there's one that has skiing in it from back in the day and the one that takes place in outer space is moonwrecker i know that sure but there's also um i remember as a child i think i've told this story on a james bond thing when matt has had me on that mr mack orley but when i was a child my parents would go on dates and we'd get a babysitter and i'm the oldest of three and we had cable we had hbo but it was had a protective code on it yeah and i was like

a dirty little boy and i wanted to watch octopussy because it had the word pussy in it sure not knowing that i've seen it as an adult and i'm just like oh man i would have been so disappointed but i accidentally my dad said you you guys can watch HBO tonight. Not really even thinking like what's on there. Yeah. And not put in the code at hour. Yeah. He put in the code and I was like, this is going to be great.

And then I stepped on the remote. It was on the floor and I turned the TV off. It's like a Twilight Zone zone episode i was so mad i was so mad he finally got the i wanted to watch dream on now we have to watch scrambled porn yeah i was looking for the octopussy not necessarily the news doubleheader and i didn't get it um how is it that they were allowed to call the movie octopussy is that certainly at the time that was there a cat in it at all because that's how you get

away with it technicality that's that's true were there eight cats in it i think because a character had been named pussy galore in an earlier movie they were like we got away with this yeah how far we could push the needle i watched that one and it there's not i can't tell you what happens i feel like there's a hot air balloon maybe that rules uh hot air chase yeah yeah in uh in college we did like a fake uh who wants to be a millionaire like just a campus version of who wants to be a millionaire and we were uh we came up with questions and one of them was which of the following is not a bond girl and it was like octopussy or i don't know if she is but or like uh yeah pussy galore and then the the one the right answer was gobbles wang gobbles

i would do so badly at that it really would be a sort of stab in the dark i think if you gave me four yeah four names and one of them was a fake bond name i think you could design that question and i would and you would you would sure yeah oh yeah yeah yeah i mean that's what the that's what it's all about it's like the hokey pokey. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, you put your Bond girl in, you put your Bond girl out. Mark, you went to university, yes? Yes, I did. Wisconsin. He was a Badger.

He was a Badger. I was a Wisconsin Badger. How was your university experience? Did you like it? Would you recommend? What a complicated answer is floating around in my head because i didn't i didn't really like it right at first the first year i went when i went to school i was 17 holy shit when's your birthday it's in november so i turned 18 you know after a couple months but there's

massive culture shock because i was not a party guy in high school and suddenly it's like everyone is just drinking all the time yeah and you but you in america 18 what does 18 get you like when cigarettes yeah you could get cigarettes and join the army cigarettes army lottery tickets you can vote porno oh yeah yeah i think so uh i mean yeah like i don't know that anybody would well sure yeah i think they wanted to know you were 18 yeah because otherwise fucking 14 year olds would be amassing porn from every joint i in high school we heard about there was one uh like you know a corner shop on granville street that we heard would sell porno too it looked they'd look the other way yeah yeah and so a group of us went one day

i got some pretty classy stuff but the guys i was with i remember one of them got a magazine called D cup. These pictures are so like, they were just, the lighting is terrible. I like that. You go straight to photography critique, not, not the images themselves,

but just like, did you use a filter or something here? What am I looking at? It was just like dank and like out of focus. Um, yeah, that I always wallet. It was squalid porno i would want to do that if i was a corner store i'd be the guy that sold cigarettes singles single cigarettes to

people and uh not just people though teens specifically teen i would want not just people robots give me an id to make sure that they're young enough that i'm selling this illicit stuff to them but if you're 18 get out yeah show me your id i don't have one you must be young uh so you were you were a fresh a fresh babe entering i really was and i didn't i had a rough go because i just didn't quite know what i wanted to do. I auditioned for a music program right away and didn't get it and just immediately stopped being interested in pursuing that. Not knowing as an adult looking back, it's like, oh, no, nobody would have gotten in on their first try. You have to sort of take some classes. I just did not know how it worked.

No. Yeah, I was the same going into university. I was like, I don't understand what this is for. I don't know. Like, I know my parents are insisting into university. I was like, I don't understand what this is for. I don't know. Like, I know my parents are insisting on it. I know that. Yes. But I was very much like, I don't know where to go.

I don't understand. Yeah. I don't know how any of this works and I'm too shy to ask. Too shy to ask. And I, you know, my guidance counselor intimidates me. Yeah. I think my freshman year I took a job and it was a one credit class for this thing called wisconsin singers i love this which is like a traveling show choir oh yeah so there was

like six five or six women five or six men singing and dancing and sort of you know approximated tuxedos and well i i was the assistant tech because i wasn't sure if i really wanted to perform or not i wasn't i just didn't know and this uh job i did it in the spring semester it involved a trip to walt disney world oh wow that's amazing yeah we spent spring break in a bus just driving down to the to the to florida and doing shows along the way all these alumni would like oh we're in louisville tonight at an alumni wisconsin alumni dinner no people people in canada are not uh into their colleges no not once you're done you're you're done yeah yeah there is an odd fascination with i guess it's networking if you were in a sort of business that relied

on connections yeah that's a simple connection that you can say well we must know some people yeah uh but yeah there was definitely a i don't. I guess people leave Wisconsin, too, to go to Florida because the weather's nice. But I hated that job. I didn't want to do it. After about a month of it, I just went, this is awful. This is not what I want to do.

Because I was changing batteries and mic packs. I had to go buy bass strings. You didn't like this job? No! This sounds amazing. You had to change batteries bass strings. You didn't like this job? No. This sounds amazing. You had to change batteries? What about light bulbs? I don't believe there were any light bulbs.

I had to, yeah, I had to like sort of maintain the props. Oh, there were props. Did you have to comb wigs? No, I never had to do any hair stuff. That was, I draw the line there. Yeah, no hair stuff. And then, I draw the line there. Yeah, no hair stuff. And then, yeah, about halfway through university, I went and had a meeting with a counselor who said,

what do you want to major in? It's time for you to declare a major. And I said, I don't really know. And they looked at, they sort of did the tail of the tape. Right. Where they went, yeah, you take all these theater classes. You must want to major in theater. And I went, yep, yeah., you take all these theater classes. You must want to major in theater. And I went,

yep. Yeah. Yeah. Just not even really considering what that meant or, or if I really did want to do that, but I just went, I guess I've been doing that this whole time. So I got a theater degree.

Nice. Now, did you, but I was doing improv at that point. I was doing a lot of improv independently from the school. Right. And like, was there just don't you feel like on university campuses in america anyways they have like a satirical publication uh that they put out and i feel like that's only an american thing i don't

think that exists in canada but no and and i went to the school where maybe the most popular of them all started. Oh, yeah. The Onion. Yeah, right. Cool. That was rarefied air. Yeah. That was sort of the dream for comedy stuff. And nobody I knew worked there.

I mean, it was like Ivory Tower stuff where they were just writing comedy headlines left and right. Yeah. And no one ever knew who they were or how to find them. Wow. That seemed like a very protected thing but yeah the onion was that it was right in the middle of that holy shit and so like but you couldn't there was no it was impenetrable you couldn't find out how to get them never met i think years later i met uh one of their critics oh okay like one of their media and and uh oh nathan rabin is another guy that i maybe have met online yeah he's done a bunch of like music criticism for the onion yeah cool um but yeah the i i adored it and just went like maybe someday i don't know how and then i just never figured it out uh did like did you have friends

that told you you should go into performing or was this your own concoction in your head oh uh yeah i guess i don't gosh you you've really you've really stunned me here graham just because you hear so many stories of people who are the i didn't think i should do comedy but then my friends said get up on stage and i did and i loved it but i feel like that was we we hate that yeah i know that i yeah of course we hate it yeah i i mean i played hockey all growing up and then at my mom's church we would she would have me i would be in like the dramatizations of stuff there was like a we would put on a musical or a pageant or whatever and i was always in it

begrudgingly then i played hockey till i was a teenager and all of my real life friends were all doing plays and taking improv classes in the summer and stuff and i was playing hockey and trying to learn how to skate faster. And I just, one day I told my dad, I didn't want to play hockey. I wanted to do a play. And I really did not think it was going to go very well.

And then practical man that he was, I think it just clicked for him that he would have to drive one less person around to hockey games. Right. Yeah. He's like, you can walk down to this place and do whatever it is you want to do. Great. Yeah. I don't have to get up at five in the morning and i don't have to buy you any equipment you're gonna be given your own costumes at this thing yeah yep the cost is is low yeah

when did you when did you last play hockey oh uh 1993 and you haven't tried it again since i had one friend who her husband plays there's a huge rec hockey league in in los angeles oh there's an ice rink in pasadena there's another a lot of a lot of uh northern folk who played hockey like they they put on the pads and play in la i've just never done it i don't know that i can still skate but i have not played hockey in a long time i had literally 1993 i stopped playing hockey just like you yeah and i then a few years ago i was like you know what maybe i'll try it again and i went and bought a bunch of used gear and and your friends got gathered around and said you should play hockey you love it and it was like i joined a league that was all like people who never stopped playing hockey and they were all like some of them were like the others

got my team it was 19 and they were all like so good and it was like it's just nice to get some exercise and almost barf every game yeah i think i i my relationship with hockey and with sports in general is that i i just adore the games and i like a lot of things about it but there's culture stuff that i can't i can't get around oh that's what i like i mean i'm i love hockey yeah i just i just want the hazing yeah why can't they broadcast that that's the um yeah that's uh do you watch any sports or are you just done oh yeah oh yeah mark i know mark and i a few years ago had a bet that's right

this is like a decade ago maybe the the thing that connects we're playing the kings and that's right uh we bet something i don't know what i was gonna have to give up but when the kings lost you sent me uh a headshot an autographed headshot. That's nice. An autographed headshot. Of me. Of you. Which no one needs. No. But I was glad to get it.

And boy, I just can't tilt my camera. It's on the wall, but I just can't get my camera to. Oh, really? It's on the wall? Yeah. Well, I mean, you believe me, right? I just can't get the camera to go. The wall of shame yeah how many headshots would you say you still have from

the days of headshots or at least 500 but like how many photo sessions oh how many photo sessions yeah like how many individual i probably have only done like three or four okay graham did you have headshots i did and i still have them they're with me for the rest of my life like you can't just once uh twice i had two different ones and the one that i used for a long time uh you can't get rid of photos because you're afraid that if you put a whole thing of photos of your face in a garbage can somebody's gonna find them and put them up all over town some teenager's gonna prank you it's a good prank yeah look at this guy yeah wanted pervert check out this asshole uh yeah no i want him to come over and be a pervert yeah i'm looking for a pervert is this him yeah

graham you should you should put them all out with the recycling and say free pervert pervert photos free prankable photos you should have a garage sale yeah you're old yeah all my old headshots oh man and they're just you like getting your headshots done no i hated it hated it yeah you no i don't i don't well i didn't mind it who did you did you work with somebody that was professional because i worked with some jag that had like a camera called himself a photographer yeah i uh a friend did my first ones when I first moved to LA. And then another friend who is a very talented headshot photographer. He was also an improviser, comedy guy. So he sort of like paid the bills with the photos and did improv and stand-up shows.

Oh, okay. He did a few of mine. And he was always great. He was always just like, I will go over to his house and hang out and do that. But I'm not a particularly photogenic fella well don't you the camera loves you but the last ones i did was sort of like this big deal photo person that i thought i'm spending the money i'm doing this oh yeah it was the guy from d cup magazine that's right and i am still wiping vaseline off myself we're gonna go full slime on this so get ready boy i remember the look on his face when he chose deca makes i tried to talk him out of it like this isn't gonna age well you're not gonna

you still have this in a year i kept my what if he still had it to this day in a mylon bag? Like he's never touched it. Or like a protective sleeve of like, I am preserving this. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. I'm handing this down. To whatever the Vegas Pons. Pons Stars?

Is that the show? Yes. I guess in this case it would be Porn Stars. Tell me about what you got here. Yeah. Well, it's a first edition okay d cup mag uh purchased at uh the grocery store on uh you know uh granville and eighth avenue vancouver uh uh well i'm gonna be honest with you i don't know a lot about canadian smut but I know a guy who does. Let me give him a call.

It's me. Smutly. It's just Dave's friend. The other friend in the group. I've been looking for that. Yeah. I tried to talk him out of this. I'm Smutly Doug.

Yeah. Now, Mark, you're also a decorated smutley doug um that yeah now mark you're also a uh a decorated pedal steel guitar player oh i don't what uh what decorations are i don't know purple heart purple heart yeah okay yeah i did i did drag some guys out of a out of a honky tonk once and saved their lives yeah i got that uh uh do you pedal steel guitar that's the one where you uh it's like a little guitar table yes and you you uh have like a little comb that you change the notes with there's no comb uh it's like waylon jennings had sex with a loom oh nice okay yeah that's good that's a really good yeah i can picture it i'm picturing my head it's a tabletop guitar and there are pedals and knee levers and what are the what are the pedals and knee levers do and what is a knee

lever um there's a little sort of um finger sort of thing that sticks down from if you imagine a tabletop oh sort of like things that are right on your the side of your knee or above you and you can sort of depress them or push them out or push them in it's like a suzanne summer's thymaster situation right yeah where you maybe would push push those in and then now you're playing a diminished chord or a minor oh you're bending notes so the the guitar has a tuning and all the pedals and all the levers move some of the strings and then there's different combinations do you know what this is graham i've seen it i've seen somebody uh on like in a movie or something play one but i didn't know that it i didn't know it had so many parts yeah uh and and is it

like you know when someone plays the accordion and there's like the piano side and the weird button side the weirdest what is the weird what do those buttons do i don't know is that does it make something diminished? It may, yeah. I think the accordion is more complicated to me than the pedal steel guitar. Yeah, if I had to learn one, it would probably be the pedal steel guitar. If you...

Really? Yeah, out of that and an accordion? Oh, okay. If you had to pick between the two. Yes, if I had to pick between the two. What drew you to this instrument? I liked... I didn't grow up listening to country music i was a pretty much a metalhead yeah who did you like in metalhead in the heyday of of metal 92 to 95 oh yeah toad the west brock yeah yeah lots of candle box yeah was uh was megadeth in rotation sure megadeth i was a big faith no

more guy no more yeah absolutely the thinking man's metal they were kind of a band that i'd i'd go to bat for them i'd sort of go like you really ought to give these guys another shot yeah i know they had that one hit look i know they've they steered you wrong so many times before you got to get into some deeper cuts here. Yeah. What about like an anthrax or a sepultura? I loved an anthrax. I never got into sepultura too much.

Did you wear heavy metal t-shirts? Yes. Yeah. I had long hair. Oh, nice. Yeah. Like you were a true blue metalhead guy. Would you grow long hair again i can't but like in the

back i uh you know what there was a period where i just hadn't i think i cut my head i so i shaved my head i've been shaving my head since my 20s which is a luxury by the way my wife has pointed this out where she's just like you have looked the same the entire time I've known you. There has been no change. And I always think that is depressing, isn't it? But there's something about the longevity. When she met you, you looked 40 something and now you still do. Yes.

But I did at one point, I think I cut my head really bad shaving it and I just couldn't shave around it. So I did have to grow out my hair and it was long enough that I did go to a barber. Was that like, I thought, I thought I'm going to grow a beard. I'm going to grow hair. I'm going to just get as much as I can going. And the,

the barber experience was so depressing that I just went home and I, I guess I just flushed that barber money down the toilet. Yeah. Cause I, I, it wasn that barber money down the toilet. Yeah. It wasn't a good haircut. I didn't like how it looked, so I just shaved it the next day. Was the barber making good conversation or no? Not great. Was the quartet with him?

Were they singing? Only three of them showed up, so there was a lot of mid-range missing. Tons of high harmony and a low guy wow um uh graham have you ever shaved your head yeah i uh like but like like to the skin yeah i did in uh university uh on a dare somebody i had very long hair and my friend we were walking by uh like a smart cuts or something like that like a chain haircut place

sure and uh and he said i dare you to shave your head and i i took the dare it wasn't even like there was no money on the line now they look back i would have insisted on i mean the barber i assume got paid something maybe he paid the barber i think there was money on the line for him yeah i think maybe he said if you shave your head i'll pay for it i think that was money on the line for him. Yeah, I think maybe he said, if you shave your head, I'll pay for it. I think that must have been the deal. And then, yeah, I had it like that for a while. Several people told me that I looked like a white supremacist, which they weren't all the way wrong about.

But, yeah, so I immediately just tried to grow it back. So the feedback was bad. Okay, yeah, no, I never went to the scalp, but I did clippers all the way to zero. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And got... You got tons of compliments? No, didn't get compliments, but I did it twice and both like uh both times i was like this should look better my head my head should have a better shape yeah there was a guy that i went to high school with who had like kind of the 90s kind of mushroom cut thing parted in the middle and then he shaved his head and it was like his head was like et's head like it went way back like a football kind of thing he had like the biggest head but his hair

was hiding that fact for so many years like you just thought oh it's like poofy in the back yeah when i shaved my head people were like hey uh did you see that alien autopsy show you need to yeah yeah don't i recognize you from somewhere yeah to the carpet match the drapes um yeah that's i i contemplate uh shaving my head again but i am also afraid that people would say i still look like a white supremacist so it is the tough part of it yeah you i mean with long hair and a long beard you don't not look like a white supremacist yeah i do have a joke that i used to tell fairly often that i look like i could play a racist in a movie like if they were casting like hillbilly racist i think i could probably pass uh yeah yeah thanks you can pass for a racist yeah yeah i'd buy it yeah um like i only did the the shave with the bick once and then i was too afraid to ever do it again because i i

think i felt like i got away with it and uh and everything was going to be fine but then you know what i mean like i was afraid to push my luck and do it a second time yeah sure that's all i do i had i had not had a haircut before i had that haircut a couple of years ago i had not had a haircut in probably like 25 years do you use cream yep or do you shaving cream and i was like a mach 5 razor wow oh nice cool how do you get in the back like you just you go up you go down i'm pretty good at it at this point i've been doing it a while yeah i think i do go up i do yeah yeah yeah and then i'll go across actually oh yeah yeah yeah i mean i don't even know i don't even know what i would do like i'm i shaved my beard a few months ago and used all of the razors that came in the back and then i didn't want to buy more razors but i was like my my technique i i was trying to

remember how to shave and i was like i guess i go with the grain at first and then against the like yeah go against to get it so smooth but i i don't like it so smooth it's too it's too smooth so the the other like when you say that stuff with the grain against the grain all of that i've never seen my father without a beard right i've seen photos but he's had a beard my entire life and when it came time for me to shave he kind of just went, I don't really know. Just get the shave stuff on there. And then he didn't have great advice. So I've probably been doing it wrong this whole time.

I never got a walkthrough either. I think I might have gotten a walkthrough, but obviously it didn't stick. My dad spent a lot of time teaching me to put deodorant on. Yeah? Maybe he was trying to tell you something. Like a six-week course. Can I ask you guys what your deodorant of choice is these days? Because I got a little deodorant issue.

Okay. Okay. I'm, mine is just Speed Stick. I want to say it's the ocean surf. I always buy the wrong one. Uh, cause I'm like, I don't, I don't use ocean surf. And then I get whatever, like fresh blast. Oh, I'm like, this smells wrong.

I should've got ocean surf. And is it deodorant only? Is it deodorant? It's just deodorant. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Cause I,

um, I used to use this thing called the stuff called certain dry that was like prescription strength, antiperspirant. Yeah. Uh, that like made my armpits dry for years. And then over time that came back and I realized it's okay if my armpits get

wet when it's hot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't want to. As long as they don't stink. Yeah. I'm the same. I use a Speed Stick original scent. Oh, yeah.

Which just smells like what Speed Stick is. But I'm considering making a move to a less. Natural? Not natural, but like softer ingredients than like whatever whatever is in speed sticks like whatever i want to hear mark's issue yeah what's the issue well so i feel like i said this out loud but maybe i didn't i'm only shaving my head with the uh with the big five blade razor because i that's what they have at costco right i can just go oh yeah and so same with the deodorant i don't really care and i bought i think a five pack of degree so i mean

it smells fine and it's a deodorant antiperspirant and that was great and then i ran out of it and i don't really want to go to costco again to deodorant. No, I know I can get it other places. But there was just this random deodorant that maybe my wife tried once and didn't use it. It's like a eucalyptus natural deodorant. So I was like, I'll give this a try. It's probably not great that I'm just rubbing aluminum under my armpits every day. Right. And it doesn't work.

And I know it's not an antiperspirant so i like i exercised today i went to the gym and i did this this exercise routine you look really fit yeah you look but i'm not you look oh you got a slamming butt but that's I was a sweaty mess after that. And I smelled off. Well, and then I got home. It's very hot here. I got home. I took a shower. I put that on.

I did some stuff around the house. I did. I was in our yard prepping for the garage sale and I sweat through another shirt and it's, it's unbelievable. So, so then now I just think, well,

should I just go back to the aluminum stuff and health be damned? No, don't go back. Well, what's the health concern? Well, there's, there's speculation that you're, you're sort of aluminum based. It's going to give you Alzheimer's? It's a perspirant. Yeah. They'll melt your brain via your armpits.

Yeah. Yeah. I've heard that as well. The Alzheimer's Society of British Columbia denies it. Is that true? Because they love to smell good. Well, no.

Because my friend told me like, because I used to, I've made like a beer can chicken on the barbecue where you put a beer can up a chicken's butt.

Yeah. And my friend was like, you know, it's aluminum, it's going to give you Alzheimer's. And I Googled it and the Alzheimerzheimer's uh society of british columbia were like nah dog you're good load up on alcohol on alcohol on on aluminum both yeah yeah well you got the beer can

well i mean i mean first of all when you work out, you're going to shower afterwards. Yes, certainly. Nothing is going to... You need to plan your around to work out. Yes. Like, no deodorant is going to stop that. Now, this is a tip that a gentleman in Vancouver named Colin Sharp, I don't know where he got it from, but during the summer,

and in L.A. because it from but during the summer and in la because it's warm all the time there uh whether you switch to deodorant or antiperspirant keep it in the fridge and then give your uh give your pits like an icy blast in the morning it rules i can't believe i've been doing it without it all this time it's the best but does it last it doesn't last no and stepping away from the refrigerator. No, yeah, but it's just like a nice perk. And then if you have to reapply, get that perk again. I might have to get like a dormitory-sized mini fridge and put it in my bathroom.

Just keep a lot of stuff in there. The man cave. What else could I keep cool in my bathroom? Oh, like a Mars bar. Chilled toothpaste? Yeah, chilled toothpaste. Mars bar. room oh like a mars bar toothpaste yeah uh antiperspirant i don't use

antiperspirant because i used to and it ruined it ruins shirts well that's this this degree stuff that i had was sort of like a no no white streaks and no yellowing but you know the chemical compromise has to impact your health yeah oh yeah uh look how clean my shirts are and i'm i'm also now i'm not able to do math right yeah i think the

i think i'm gonna get off the speed stick train i think i'm gonna go for a softer softer sensation i i i'm willing to switch to a natural yeah not in the summer in this not not in the summer i did like a chalky natural before because i have also had these concerns before and tried a different i tried one that was a nightmare what was that it was like rubbing i can see the packaging but i don't remember the name, but I could, it was like putting congealed vegetable oil in your armpits. Whoa. That's disgusting. It was,

it was, it was gross. You know what is good is, um, the like, uh, if you, have you been to Cinnabon,

they put that, uh, white cream on top of the, the glaze. That's good in the armpit. Smells nice. You can spackle it on seals in the sweat yeah yeah um so what are you gonna do what's your you're gonna jump on the

speed i'm gonna stick it out with this stuff i think and then maybe i don't know i don't i don't know what to do but i don't want to stick of deodorant lasts so long. Like you'll be doing this. How many sticks? Here's the thing. I've, I've gotten, uh, the, like the,

sometimes the like large deodorant will go on sale. Oh yeah. Uh, and it'll be cheaper than the small deodorant. But I find that it, it goes bad. Like it stops working after. Right.

A few. How many? Oh, hello. Look at that. There it is there it is i'm wearing a black shirt so you can't really tell how those sleeves yeah those are pretty good um what uh when you put on deodorant how many wipes like how many brushes i'm gonna i'm gonna just do it sort of one i probably go one two three yeah i think i'm doing like a yeah a zigzag pattern i'm a one two three four five six seven eight nine oh wow you're layering it on that's crazy

and i'm you know what i don't go through a ton of it it's not like i'm yeah that you're in like your your vacation fund is disappearing because of so much deodorant my wife put on deodorant i i mean i we our house is such that we have we have like a little bathroom that she likes because the shower is better for her hair sure we have a second bathroom with a shower that i like because i don't care yeah but she'll get dressed and put on deodorant and stuff and i'd never see it and then one day i saw it and she did this she did right hand deodorant cross body under the left pit okay couple a couple of right in there and then right hand right pit oh oh her own she never used her left hand i switched my hand yeah me too and this was a revelation. This is, yeah. I couldn't believe that she just used the one hand and did both pits with it.

Was she holding a hot dog in the other hand? What was going on? Of course she was. Fresh out of the shower, hot dog. I never do that because one time I accidentally swiped the hot dog in my armpit. And I was chased around by a pack of wolves all night. Somebody smells like mustard in this meeting. Shumka, you're getting a promotion.

Don't let it happen to you. Yeah, that mustard is yellowed your shirts. Dave, what's going on with you, man? Man, nothing, dude. Here's two topics that we can talk about. Great. You can choose. Do you want to talk about my sunburn peeling?

No. Next choice. Let me write these down. Sunburn peeling. Okay, next. Your other topic is Rufus Wainwright. that's juicy mark's taking down notes he has a notepad out he's writing down these possibilities rufus wainwright ah i'm probably i guess i'm gonna go with rufus wainwright though i am intrigued about the sunburn it's like the like you know in the last few crumbs at the bottom of a bag of chips that's your sunburn yeah it's the

skin that i found on my chair so we didn't really yeah exactly you were gonna tell that disgusting anecdote anyways it's not an anecdote i'm gonna next they were in your chair well i was sitting on a chair for like six hours i got up off the chair and I was like, Oh, what's that? Oh, all this stuff came out of my shirt. Oh man.

We voted for Rufus Wainwright. How did we end up in this situation? Four more years. Uh, so here's the thing that just happened to me. Um, I don't know if anything like this has ever happened to you. Uh, but, um, yeah um yeah i it turns out my i i had a moment where my memories uh my memory lied to me oh

so i uh when i was in college as we mentioned before in college great time semper fi let me answer that question from 45 minutes ago i don't regret it but i also do regret it there we go i met a lot of great people i probably could have done without the actual academic stuff right yeah dave take it away go ahead dave um i in college i bought rufus wainwright's first album and i loved it he was uh you know he was canada's troubadour yeah he uh son of loud and wainwright son of loud third my dear yeah and i kate or anna mcgarragal oh nice okay whichever one had the beauty mark uh and uh love that first album and then his second album came out and i was like, I don't really like it. I bought it and I listened to it once.

And I was like, not for me. And I never bought anything else of his. Yeah. I was like, I just got off the Rufus Wainwright train. Not even a poster? Well, no, I have tons of posters. Dave, are you telling the listeners that you were on the Wain train? Well, I'm back on the W the Wayne train Because here's what happened

The Wainwright train I got I was like you know what I will revisit Rufus Wainwright's second album Poses I haven't listened to it in 25 years No It came out 20 ago so that can't be right that's

right maybe now you're saying you never listened to it i listened to it once and never i was like this uh you know rufus he lost it i don't like it right uh and then so i was like you know what maybe i'll listen to it again 20 years later. I listened to it, and my memory was completely wrong. Not only was I wrong about how many times I listened to it, I loved it. I was like, oh, yeah, I totally listened to this 100 times. I had it in my disc, man. I would listen on my lunch hour at work, then I just realized oh I threw away like I never I never bought his third album his fourth album

I was just done with him because in my mind I was like I thought I didn't like that album something the switch flipped in my head and I thought I didn't like something I don't know has that happened to you go ahead Dave I think that exact thing

happened to me with Rufus wainwright no because i know i had i had his first record because i think i would have had i would have been in school then and lived with roommates and i think that was the era of love rufus wayne well one one person would buy an album and make copies of it yeah that's right the old school uh yeah burning cds and all that if you had a cd burner you're very popular hell yeah but i remember getting the second record too and being like oh i think i i think that i had it on the first one right really nailed it there i don't i don't need this one and then yeah revisiting it later i went this this is pretty good wow the second one rules. Is that the one with cigarettes and chocolate milk?

That's your opening track. Yeah. That is a great record. Yeah. I think that's the record that I've heard the most of his is that one. Whatever it's called. Oh, you got to check out his first one. I've heard nothing other than the first two.

But now I've cheated myself. Yeah. It's weird. Like if you're a fan of somebody and then they kind of are not to your taste anymore you don't ever listen to it again you never give their like eighth album yeah you never like dip back in yeah and just see like maybe some well because the the bands i like the most uh i the eighth album like i don't like bands usually uh kind of have a best before date and it's usually you know in the first 20 years usually you believe in the law of

diminishing musical returns i i mean i've witnessed it but um i do and maybe i'm like i've definitely changed over time like as a fan i'm like oh yeah who cares like yeah do do what do i want them to stop yeah like it's just i have no i guess yeah you keep doing what you're doing i i can't imagine i'll stop two albums in and then dip in it six albums later sure but i think i've done that before with what bands have i done maybe with beck i've like listened to like four of his albums and then i kind of dropped off and i don't know how many he's made now but i loved him so why don't i go get back into it you know because that is weird it is weird when you're like, uh, cause I don't even like, you know,

I don't talk. I don't listen to music in public. No, you can't because you'll get an erection. But it's like, I don't care. Like, like,

Oh no. Well, people judge me if I like the, this 10th album by whomever? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, how about this? There was a period of my life where I was definitely the iPod was it. The music that was on there was on there.

And that's what I listened to all the time. And so I missed Coldplay's first record and got it. I don't know, four years later? I just never really heard music around. I would have headphones on when I was walking because Madison's a very walkable town. Or later

when I'd be in my car, I was never listening to the radio. I was always listening to music that I picked or a playlist I made. And then four years after it was a global smash i listened to yellow by coldplay and went this rips yeah this is great yeah and there's no one around to talk about it too and everyone's like oh that oh oh yeah we're over them yes completely have you ever done this where you've heard uh an artist like recent recent stuff and you love it and then you go back in their catalog

and you realize like no i like the i like the stuff 15 years in i don't like the original version of this give example uh like for me one of the is tom waits i like the thing where he's like throwing something at a can and it sounds all crazy and he's like yelling from another room i love that stuff but then you go back and he's like playing piano and it's like they're good songs but i like them better when he's like playing junk you don't you don't love frank's wild years no i mean they're fine like i like yeah i like them but they're the ones where he's like, that's the stuff I love. The weird stuff.

I hate to break it to you. That's all Tom Waits. Except maybe the first day that he found a piano. He did. He played the piano a lot on the old one, and now he has a piano where the keys are a wrench. Yeah, he's just an organ grinder. He's got a monkey with a symbol.

I don't know. I somebody with with that much uh personal evolution yeah i like to i do appreciate tracking somebody's yeah yeah yeah you know like dylan maybe i'm not a huge dylan guy but i can appreciate from 90210 yeah dylan from 90210 is he the how do you talk to an angel guy as jamie walters got it uh i'm speaking of robert zimmerman from oh from minnesota yeah um you know i can appreciate the folk stuff and the electric stuff and all the weird stuff he's been doing in the last 10 years and yeah i don't know it's a fun evolution if you last that long and you don't evolve i think that's maybe more problematic yeah like if it's just the same record over and over again that's not great that's true

hey like there are bands that are like that they release new music but it sounds exactly like their old music yeah like i'm looking at you kiss you know what i mean do you know graham do you know um jeremy woodcock yes i have met jeremy woodcock he's a canadian i think he's canadian yeah comedian and he uh his twitter is very good but the like pinned tweet is him as bob dylan's guitarist and he's like strumming along. And then as soon as Bob Dylan's voice kicks in, he's like mouthing, he's ruining the song.

Are we just going to let him do that? He's like totally grooving to it before that happens. Well, I'm glad that you fell back in love with rufus rain i know what am i good but uh do i listen do i have to rediscover all of it now yeah you have to go through it all yeah i think at this point and the age at the age we all are there's no shame in an in a greatest hits yes rufus wayne writes essentials playlist i know there was a time in my life where i would i would be so mad at you for

listening to a greatest hits you should get the record here's what i'm gonna listen to i'm gonna listen to that gap commercial where he sings what are you doing new year's eve and then i'm out yeah i like yeah get his essentials get that through a gap commercial gap commercial essentials yeah fall into the gap uh he's probably my favorite my favorite uh wainwright he's my favorite bond villain yeah i like it yeah terrible if you have a speech impediment what an awful name to have if yeah yeah if you can't do your r's sure yeah and i'm not even gonna try because i'm afraid someone'll get mad yeah dave someone will get mad and it's named elmer fudd will get mad um but uh yeah that's great he's a

great bond villain he you know he's pianoing around telling James Bond. He's a troubadour. Do you think he could have done an opening credits Bond ballad? What's your favorite? Oh, this is back to topic. What's your favorite James Bond opening credits song? For me, it's got to be The Garbage One. Yeah, The Garbage One's good.

This is your 007 700th episode James Bond song talk. Yeah, exactly. Checking in with the James Bond songs. I like the garbage one. I think Madonna did one. Yeah, and then she was in that movie. She did? And then she did fencing in that movie.

She did? I just remember the song. I never saw the movie. It was the movie where it was james it was pierce brosnan and james bond against the guy who had a bunch of diamonds that exploded in his face or something and they race they race their cars across the ice ice yeah cool yeah cool cool i would say for me it's got to be uh either that carly simon nobody does it better yeah that's true that paul mccartney live and let die absolutely and then i love the chris cornell you know my name i feel like that

song rips the oh the only one the shirley bassey one is really good gold classic yeah they wanted shirley bassey to do live and let die she was busy she's busy singing that other song paul mccartney said no i'm doing it i'm whether are you crazy yeah don't you don't have her do it again she got her turn let me go let me do it please george you're calling george martin he probably should have called cubby broccoli mr 007 guy on episode 700 what a name on that guy do you know how rich he was his family invented broccoli yeah well i mean but you know what they probably really suffered in the kid years years that kids existed um graham yes did you ever see that movie kids yes the harmony corinne movie it was a shocker

it was like they uh they were just rejecting broccoli left and right in that movie yeah that's right i recall that they they wouldn't eat uh uh you know a mixed yams or yeah they were jumping on the bed the whole time yeah yeah yeah it was a scary it was a scary revelation what's up with you um i uh uh last week or so was having a drink on a patio oh and there was a guy excuse me there was a guy who was drunk and you could tell joined a party while they were in progress like you need to have a little sip of water yeah it was your inhaler nearby i'm all right i'm getting it sorry about that fellas um we got a drunk guy he joins joins a party. That's already a promise. Joins a party. He's wearing a rugby shirt. Cool. None of the other ones are wearing a rugby shirt.

And a dirty rugby shirt. So he was playing rugby in it. Oh, I bet he needed... His deodorant probably failed him. Among other things. His basic motor skills. At several points, he tried to get the picnic uh kind of bench that there was and kept dropping things and and the group was very good at catching all the glass that he

was knocking on glass yes he was dropping glass all over the place and he was becoming more and more of a problem but it was like like the smoke in a movie theater thing where it's like nobody wants to be the person that goes over and says like you're a disgrace get out of here because he was so drunk and he was such a rugby player and and so like we all just had to tend with this guy until his like much bigger friend was like okay let's Kind of like a dog that was whining a lot. Like, okay, I'm going to take this guy for a walk. So, yeah, the guy took him for a walk down the street and then... He went around.

He did his business. Yeah, that's right. And then when he came back, you could feel in the air, everybody's like, ah. Like, everybody's night went back to normal the waiter came over at one point and said like geez louise or something how's everyone's first few bites um yeah so it was like did he come back no okay his friend obviously said go back to the rugby field where you come from. Yeah, go dig a hole. Yeah, we'll pick you up later.

But, on the patio front... Are you... I don't know what's happening here. Did you swallow a... I don't know. A fiber? Yeah, I think I might have swallowed some fiber. Why was I sitting here with mini-wheats? I shouldn't have done that.

Well, yeah, I guess that'd be... I'm a like a like a like a particle like a fabric fiber oh yeah sure i was thinking like fiber optics whatever kind of fiber it is i hope you're okay yeah no i'm fine i don't know why that keeps happening but uh in in this neighborhood there's two plazas that have been set up during COVID so that people can get a drink from the coffee shop or get a lunch and sit in this communal plaza. Very, very nice. Yeah, they're great. There's one that's no alcohol and one that's yes alcohol. And I've been hanging out in yes alcohol. How have you?

It is. People have been drinking and no alcohol so no one's enforcing it but i didn't want to be like because no alcohol there's a lot of kids there's a lot of kids and a lot of like kids that have gotten there on bikes and stuff like that i don't want that are smoking cigarettes that they got from some cool dude at a corner yeah kids have been uh reading d cup mag but like over meanwhile over in the drinking plaza boy oh boy the uh there's a guy from the apartment building next door he comes down he's blasting music and him and all of his friends smoke so they're all sitting around smoking in a circle and uh the other night though a ray of sunshine a ray of light there was a

couple guys doing a wine tasting so they had like numerous bottles of wine and like really nice wine glasses and they were sniffing and sipping and spitting it out were they sharing they were sharing yeah they were two guys like trying to say like what the notes of the wine were and we're just did you have wine no i was not invited i was just okay it wasn't like uh you know open to the no no this is a couple hey everyone we're tasting wine yeah anyone who wants it we bought extra glasses for everyone come over to the bad plaza the skid plaza we're looking for you to drink some of our wine um but yeah i thought that was nice that was the the classy part of the um i'm so close to that plaza why don't you ever text me and say hey do you want to go to bad plaza i might okay yeah i mean i don't see it happening

and that's why i don't ask uh-huh um that was such a quick reversal yeah why don't you ask me i will please i'm not coming i won't i'm so busy um but you know i encourage everybody in their own city to check out their uh skid plaza and see if you can't make some friends or get some smokes um and would do they um how many do they have like a bunch of bottles yeah they probably had like five bottles between i bet they were just blasting were they out were they like yeah were they like being very performative did you hear what notes they were tasting no they were just talking about how much they love wine it was very uh niles and frazier

kind of situation and the best yeah yeah it was great it was it was them trying to class up an otherwise uh very uh disgusting situation yeah it's not that bad but it's pretty bad it's that that plaza they have a porta potty which i thought was a bad idea because i was like well you're now people are just gonna hang out for hours like people don't need to like that's right plan their day around like okay i need well i gotta go home and use the bathroom right you're saying if a big outdoor plaza doesn't have a bathroom people just will stay for a little bit and take off this isn't a big outdoor plaza this is a very it's like one you know one property wide yeah they're just like it's small but it's nice to have somewhere to be eating outside during all

these times but yeah uh and i like yeah you're right people will pee and poo wherever indeed well i also think you know be we're spoiled rotten in la there's just not too much weather that you ever have to deal with so any outdoor seating thing is pretty much year round that's great but you know i grew up in wisconsin and the the place where i went to school there's a huge like terrace with these metal chairs and tables and it is packed every second that there isn't snow on the ground yeah yeah yeah that we got that the same here it's it's people uh as soon as the sun comes out it's people are women are tearing off their tops like they're all saints people are showing more bra straps than all saints

this is a reference that you're gonna have to dig into listeners you're gonna have to figure out what women are showing off more bra straps than all saints i'll say it again just make sure everyone's got it yeah like uh tank tops and bra straps you know all saints like all and their bra straps that's what we're talking that's what we're talking about see if you can find uh an example of that on the internet that so you know what dave's talking about uh-huh uh should we move on to overheards sure overheard overheards if you're out there in the wild and you hear something or you know that something great is uh happening so you tune into it uh that's fantastic and we want to hear the result here on the podcast we always like to start with the guest. Mark, will you lead the charge? I will, though I must say I have not been out much. So there's not much to overhear.

Oh, yeah. No, absolutely. But I have two, and I don't know that either one of them is particularly compelling. Okay. But if you don't mind, I'd like to start with what I overheard at Guitar Center in Hollywood, California. Yes. Oh, California. Yes. Oh, yeah. That's the one. If you don't know it, it's a flagship giant.

Is that on Hollywood Boulevard? It's on Sunset Boulevard. Oh, yeah. Ruthless Boulevard. Right in the heart of Hollywood. And I used to live right there. I used to love going up there. I don't want to buy anything from Guitar Center ever.

I try to support a local shop. Guitar Center does not need your money. But the Hollywood Guitar Center has some wonderful vintage guitars. And it just becomes this sort of thing. If I'm in the neighborhood, which I rarely am, I go. And I went because I was in the neighborhood this week. And I overheard a man talking to the clerk at the guitar center. He was maybe looking for a wireless microphone.

And I just heard the clerk say, yeah, we don't keep a lot of wireless microphones just out on the floor. You know, it's this enormous warehouse of guitars and basses and drums and keyboards and this man was trying to buy a wireless mic and so like all i could parse from it was that they were looking at a computer screen and he was showing him like yeah this is the sure wireless handheld microphone and the guy wanted to go see it yeah the clerk just went like yeah we don't really have one that you can just go

check out yeah like you would like pick up you know you try out some some uh vocal lines on this one i can see like yeah but i'm gonna pull this les paul off the off the wall and plug it into an amp and just take it for a little strummy spin yeah yeah but they don't have a pa system set up for people to just do karaoke yeah yeah do sing that uh eight mile song or whatever this is the song i sing to test things out and the other overheard that i have happened at this uh my wife's a long lifelong vegetarian and there's a place in highland park california called burger lords And this is just a good name. I'm giving them all of the praise. They're a vegan place. So they wanted to try to match in and out,

but for vegetarians. Oh, wow. That's incredible. It's really tasty. I eat meat and I don't eat a lot of it anymore. Just based on the household, like I don't want to cook two meals if I don't have to. So we eat a lot of vegetarian food.

And Burger Lords is awesome. It's so tasty, but we were there and there's a very young woman and a very young man. They were, they might've been teenagers. I don't really know, but they were talking about, uh,

their profiles on a dating app. And I haven't, I never used a dating app ever. I just, I've been married married now my wife and i've been together for like 15 years so yeah you missed so foreign to me it's i did miss out yeah you know all of them tinder hinge bubblicious scrunch yeah scrunch the girl the girl said something along the lines of like if that's his profile picture and his quote, I had,

I know I can trust him. There was some sort of like, and I looked over. So my wife's back was to her, but I could see this girl and she really looked like 15. Wow. Yeah. Which I guess like in high school,

I was, I had a girlfriend. I was dating people, I guess the way that you do in high school. I just can't imagine the digital element of it so they really were trying to figure out if this person on a dating app was an absolute sociopath or a sweetheart yeah and there's some quotes i couldn't hear the i couldn't hear the boy i could only hear the girl and she was sort of defending

this digital casanova of, oh, but his profile picture is this. And the quote he has on there, I can trust him and I couldn't hear anything that the boy was saying. His profile picture is Hunter S. Thompson. And the quote is from Boondock Saints. So I think we're safe. We know this guy's good. He's a reliable bro.

Yeah. His quote was, it was the opening little talking part from Never Ever by All Saints. Yeah. Dave, do you have an overheard? Mine is the, it is, okay, we recorded yesterday. We sure did. I'm going away. Was that 699?

That was 699. Got it. sure did uh i'm going 699 that was 699 uh uh we uh we and we had the ultimate 69er on the show yeah that's right um and you are the ultimate backwards james bond fan that's right so we we put a lot of thought into these yeah and the numbers i sit around my house and i allow international espionage to occur yeah you don't participate in the uh in that game at all that's just i wouldn't so i don't have a ton of overhears to choose from uh and uh the one that i do have was uh my i've a four-year-old and a six-year-old and they were out in the backyard and they were looking uh they were looking at their reflections in a window and they were wearing hats and doing stuff in front of the window and one of them said it's like we're in a club

and the other one said yeah the hat club where we all wear hats and make cool poses nice welcome to the hat club you know what to do yeah put on that hat and wiggle around yeah so you know being a kid is amazing uh it's true i write you check out richard link letters boyhood if you don't believe me yeah uh ethan hawk's in there he makes a playlist um yeah you know what not enough shout outs to ethan hawk yeah i don't think i finished that movie i think i watched it uh much like mark i there was 20 years of my life i watched every single movie yeah and then uh you just dropped off a little i and i certainly there were movies i watched in bits and pieces and i don't think i finished the last piece of that one of my overheards please this is from a couple weeks ago uh standing at an intersection uh a family of four

all standing around a watermelon that had been dropped on the ground and it was cracked and it was sitting on the ground and the guy as we passed the guy just said that was the last one it was so sad but just the way he said it too like like sorry kids that was it yeah that was our chance at a melon that was the last one oh we bought 500 watermelons this summer that was the last was the last one we gave them all away do you think of me he meant like this is the last one on earth yeah he he was uh you're never gonna taste the glory of watermelon because wow

i don't want to picture a world where that's true where you wouldn't have a cruel dad yeah now that you think about it you're right he's a he's a dangerous snake of a man he's a cold-hearted snake look into his eyes oh he'soh. Uh-oh. He's been telling lies. Now, we also have overheards sent in from people all over the place. If you want to send one in, you can send it in to spy at maximumfund.org. And this first one comes from Julie C. from Royal Oak, Michigan. A few weeks ago, my husband and I went to Zion National Park in Utah. On one of our hikes, we heard a woman, probably about 20 years old, say to her friend,

I'd just like to be a part of a cult, like, for one day, to see what it's all about. Which, yeah, try it on. Dip a toe. I mean, I think that's how Scientology gets you with the free personality test yeah that's true yeah and uh there's no way to fake a good part personality on that they they tell you like it needs work yeah no yeah there's always there's always room for improvement yeah yeah you're definitely like you've been going you've been relying on your looks for too long yeah yeah exactly yeah you're uh your whole that's how they got tom cruise look you took the test you got a 38 l and i'm gonna tell you right now that score it's it's so complicated to get into how the letter relates to the number so i'm gonna need you to sign up for

this six weeks correspondence course it's called dianetics is that the name of this course okay yeah yeah but we like to call it Levanetics at this point. We're positive here. You'll never get into a good school with a 38L. No, you will not. So come in, let us tutor you. I guess they're getting people as a tutor business. Yeah, 38L.

Is that like DJ Quall's suit size? Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh boy. Oh boy. Why DJ Qualls? Because he's a scrawny. He's scrawny and tall. He's thin and tall.

I mean, he's probably a 36L. He might be a 34L. Do they even make that? Yeah. It depends on how much pizza he's probably a 36 l probably might be a 34 l do they even make that yeah just it depends on it depends on how much pizza he's been having sure yeah oh he would have one of those bellies where you're super skinny and then just belly oh yeah like grover i love it grover belly if you can grow one grow yeah um this next one comes from nima from dubai uh i was just watching the beach volleyball competition on nbc and one of the commentators said the following about an american player he's a risk taker he's the elon musk of beach volleyball he's fearless ambitious innovative

and he's not afraid to send things into space. That rules. No. That was off the cuff, too. Yeah, that's right. Or it was very forced. It was very. I am going to shoehorn my Elon Musk joke in here. I don't care. Everybody laughed at it last night at the press drink party.

And so I'm going to do it. it i'm gonna go for it on air and he was probably cheered on by the other people like yeah do it yeah i think you're funny jeff bezos of beach volleyball he's uh you know he'll get you'll deliver the ball to you same day his wife will give away half of his fortune yeah he's uh he's gotten buff recently oh has he is he buff now yeah jeff bezos yeah jeff bezos got a slamming bod he's really filling out that 38l that's basically he's a 38 now he wore a space suit he wore a he wore a cowboy hat he did to that thing i didn't watch that i don't i don't want to give it any any of my attention oh i i did see a photo i watched it just for the old spank bank uh but uh he did a thing so uh astronauts wear their like wear spacesuits and they'll wear like their omega wristwatch on the outside of their spacesuit

with like a giant watch band and he was uh he was wearing just like a jumpsuit and he but he did put the watch on the outside of the suit cool like he was gonna do a spacewalk look he's a cool guy he's doing all the things the cool guys know he's got the goods we love we love him yeah we love him we absolutely we're trained from birth because when you're a kid you get exposed to lex luther who's the coolest guy in all of comics and also daddy warbucks if you're a musical fan yeah and so then we just grew up and we love and death phases all of these potential halloween costumes from yeah yes yes in fact i think the first time i actually shaved my head with a like a bick razor i was it was for halloween and i was daddy warbucks

i love it and i cut the hell out of my head what a halloween it was i was like bloody daddy warbucks bloody warbucks uh this last one uh comes from the daddy warbucks of volleyball he's well he's he's adopting a little girl i don't know the story that's right yeah he takes in a little girl and her dog no pupils yeah she's got yeah circles for eyes and volleyballs for eyes it's a hard knock life for a portion of the musical. But that's before Daddy Warbucks shows up. That's right. And also there's like a mean

headmistress or something. Yes. Carol Burnett. Cameron Diaz. Carol Burnett. This last one comes from Alex. I'm working from home and my kids are outside playing with a neighbor when I overheard the following. Neighbor kid, do you know what an accusation is? Do you know what you're accusing me of?

My kid, all I said was that your belly hit a bumblebee. Do you understand the accusations you're making here? You're going to have to prove them. Your belly hit, not the bumblebee hit the belly. Yeah, no, your belly hit the bumblebee. We know this was premeditated. Yeah, that's it. That's the overheard.

Well, in addition to overheards that are written in, we also accept your phone calls. If you want to call us, our phone number is 1-844-779-7631 that's one ugh spy pod one like these people have we had a guy call in a guy called in and uh wished us a happy uh uh like said he was appreciated the 700 episodes and i was gonna like make a little uh montage of all the people who called in with nice messages but it was just the one guy thanks one guy here we go hi Dave and Graham impossible kiss

calling in with an overheard I was just at a coffee shop and they called the name Amy because her drink was ready and two women both went up to get it and one the woman that picked it up started to walk out and the other woman said, um,

I believe that's mine. And the first woman said, well, my name's Amy. And the second woman said, mind you. And the first woman said, well, did you get a strawberry smoothie? And the second woman said, oh no, fair point. Yes, I was just going off of my name, but it's not going to hold water here. But you're right, I didn't get a strawberry drink.

I had a moco chocolate yaya. Yeah, have you ever got a super fancy drink from starbucks like all the way with the whipped cream on top that like the whole entire thing or just like just a mocha what are you guys's experience i i worked at us i did it as my friend once called it a tour of duty with starbucks i worked at starbucks for a while thank you for your service you're welcome um yeah i've done them all i've had them all we had to we had to try everything yeah just to so you could recommend or did you are you are you a java head are you big java juice man i do you love the joe i do

drink a lot of coffee yes yeah what's uh what's your favorite starbucks drink i'll just i get espresso on ice nice real simple little bit of milk maybe in there simple and sharp yeah i was uh i was at the grocery store and the grocery store had a starbucks in it uh the other day and i was like oh i didn't get my afternoon coffee today i will get uh it was really hot day. I was like, I'll get something icy and just with a caffeine. And I was like, oh, I looked at the Frappuccinos. I never go to Starbucks. So I don't know what's there. So I looked at the Frappuccinos and I was like, oh, vanilla cream Frappuccino.

That looks good. I'll get that. And I get it and it's just white. It has no coffee in it. And so I just, I got a milkshake. Yes, you did. Yeah. And I was so mad i found when i worked there that often the um the most frufiest whipped creamiest caramel sauciest drinks were often ordered by the toughest looking people yeah like me

you're right yeah i fit the profile teardrop tattoo you're getting a caramel frappuccino yeah when i was uh working as a barista there was a breed of men that would come in and not participate in the cup sizes being oh sure you know grande or whatever and they it was like you're not an old west cowboy that drinks coffee around a fire out of a tin cup. Like, you can say the thing that you want and not be like, just give me a coffee. And it's like. I'm not saying this stuff. I do.

When I, because I go to Starbucks like once every six months, I do forget which is which. Oh, yeah. Like Paul and the Grandy. The Grandy? Yeah, the Grandy. And I just go yeah the grandy and i just go for the venti i just go for the highest cup there was a woman that when i in high school i worked at like an independent coffee shop and there was a woman who came in all the time and she said i'll take i'd like a medium cup of chino and she said cup of chino every time and the the woman i worked

with is a little older than me she was the manager so there's always two of us at the shop and i would work maybe two or three days a week and she would take cappuccino and i would just say we need to tell her we have to we have to say it's a cappuccino it's not a cappuccino and the older wiser manager said no just let her we know what she wants just let her do it and i think to this day that woman is still ordering cup of chinos and people i'm sure the people there love it yeah they're like oh cup of chino ladies here yeah well they already know what to make before she even says it yeah a cup of cappuccino yeah she's shortening That's what she's doing. Next phone call.

Here we go. Dudes. Hello. My overheard occurred as I was walking down the street and I was passing a parked car. And there was a middle-aged man in a driver's seat and a senior-aged woman sitting beside him who had a bit of a perturbed look on her face. And I'm going to guess this discussion had been going on for a little while. But as I passed the car, the only part I heard was the gentleman say yes but I can't miss you if you

never leave off I go that's a classic right how can we be lovers if we can't be friends who was the most like hey go away and we'll like you kind of thing I think it was Axl Rose

for me where i was like just stay away so that we can miss you and you couldn't for me it was rufus wayne right who is the most yeah yeah how can i miss you if you don't go away does sound like a johnny paycheck ballad like a mid-70s alcohol-fuel fueled country yeah yeah mega hit yeah i love it i love it it's a vibe it's it's it's vibes i can't on me a shoe if you don't go away that's good yeah that's good i'll work on it do you sing when you do the steel guitar? Or are you just steel? It'd be hard. Yeah, okay.

It depends on the song. But if I am actually playing lots, like there's long sustained notes that yes, you could probably sing a little bit, but outside of that, it's a lot of concentration. Fair enough, man. It's classic concentration. That's true.

Yes. You got to do a rebus. Who's going to be the new host of Classic Concentration now that Alex Trebek's dead? Great question. He hasn't hosted, didn't host it since 1986. Interesting question. Yes. Did they just run out of rebuses?

Yeah, exactly. There was only so many be my Valentine. I feel like you could do new rebuses with new slang. Yeah, that's true. I've been updated. On a semi-related note, did you ever watch Bumper Stumpers? Yeah, with Al Dubois. The greatest. It's a Canadian show.

But they must have run out of license plates. This license plate belongs to a horny doctor. It'd be like Boner MD. BNR MD. All right, here's your final overheard. Hey, boys, calling in with an overheard. Just got a coffee at a drive-thru, and the guy said to me, all right, that'll be 310, just like March 10th.

Well, off I go. Here's a mnemonic device for you to remember how much you owe. He's like Rain Man. He figured it out so fast. What if you were from Europe? $10.03! Yeah. Yeah.

Why would you need that like March 10th 310 it's like to Yuma yeah that's right the 310 to Yuma that would have been fun and the both of you could have laughed at it but instead no March 10th you didn't want to go Santa Monica area code

I'm 310 and what are you what's tent. You didn't want to go Santa Monica area code? I'm 310 and what are you? What code are you dealing with over there? Me? I'm a 310. 310? Classic. The classic. Yeah. Well, 213 is the classic. 213 truly is, yeah.

Oh, then 310. And then is there another one? There's got to be another one. Well, Long Beach is 562 and then you got 626 over in Pasadena. Jeez. And I feel like I missed it. 323-213-310. Yeah. 818 is the Valley.

Uh-huh. Holy shit. There's a lot of telephones in Los Angeles County. Keep going. Keep going. 714 is that's Orange County. And I might be out. That might do do it down to wisconsin 414 is milwaukee 608 is uh the madison metropolitan area and then 715 covers a lot of the country

of the country then you maybe do minnesota as well i can do uh six uh oh no, I don't think I can. Okay. Oh, 6-1-2. Nice. And then 6-5-1 is another one. Do Minneapolis and St. Paul have different area codes? I think 6-1-2 is St. Paul and 6-5-1 is Minneapolis, but I might be wrong. Wow, they are the twin cities.

Yeah, they are identical twins. It's two identical cities and everything is exactly the same the buildings they just have duplicates of everything yeah yeah like when their first starbucks opened they've opened it in two cities at once which is unorthodox same square footage yeah yeah same imprint yep um so uh that brings us to the end of this here podcast mark uh you do so many things where can people find a sample of some of your stuff you can listen to the super ego podcast or pistol shrimps radio those are two of the big things i've done over the last few years i have so funny. Thank you. Yeah.

I also have mascots on Stitcher Premium. That's a show where I talked to a bunch of different people about their sports fandom. It's all the sports things that aren't sports. We're talking logos. We're talking actual physical mascots.

We're talking, why are the Los Angeles Dodgers the Dodgers? Well, it's because they're from Brooklyn originally and they were sort of the trolley Dodgers, which has nothing to do with Los Angeles. They should have changed their name. But Utah is famous for its jazz. Yeah, absolutely.

You guys can probably see this hat I'm wearing. Yeah. I'm leaning in away from the microphone. This is the Milwaukee Admirals admirals oh they used to be were they the were they the vancouver connects uh minor league team it's possible i believe it's i believe they're in the ahl but they're a minor league hockey team in milwaukee and the owner the original owner owned an appliance store and he named the team after admiral appliances a long gone brand of appliances and so this was their sort of alternate logo that never saw the light of day uh because

of covet but they uh the original name of the team was admiral refrigerators the way teams get their names is insane so I spent most of the pandemic talking to people about where they're from, their high school mascots, their college mascots, Japanese mascots. So that's on stitcher premium. And then if you're in LA, maybe you are on August 25th.

I'm playing pedal steel with Matt Gorley's band townland at the federal bar in North Hollywood. And that's at nighttime. I don't know what time, if we're able to do it from now until then, they might say, yeah, no,

thanks. Yeah. Fingers crossed. You got a plastic wrap over your pedal steel guitar. It's going to sound terrible, but we're going to try it. Yeah. So if we can have a show,

we will. And if we can't, we'll probably reschedule. But yeah, I'm on Instagram at Mark McConville and on Twitter at Mark McConville. I'll post stuff about that. Hell yeah. How about that? Love it.

Sounds good? Yeah, absolutely. It's a deal. Yeah. And then you can read my book, War and Peace. I wrote that. Whoa. I did like a modern twist on it.

Yeah. Yeah, it takes place in a mall he's kind of a emo war is emo and peace is sort of like a silver spoon in her mouth that's right yeah she acts like it oh my god, I just have to read it. Um, well, I want to thank our listeners for 700 episodes, 700 glorious episodes. We couldn't have done it. We wouldn't have done it without you. If we,

if we were, I know the first 699 were pretty problematic and we apologize for those 700 on. You're gonna, you're gonna see us really take flight. Yeah. We're, we're so sorry and if you if you want to hear some really big like clunking metal sounds and growling i recommend tom waits i cannot recommend him enough if you yeah your whole thing if that's what you want if that's what you want

he's the guy for it if you want to experience what dave experienced listen to rufus wainwright's second album yeah uh good it's good i you know what it was i was trying to i was like uh i have a ukulele and i was like isn't there like a rufus wainwright song that i like uh that's uh it's like two chords over and over and uh yeah it was it's called the greek song it's on the second album turns out i love that album if you hadn't heard it the first time now you know it yeah it loves that album thank you everybody out there for listening uh thanks for 700 great episodes here to here's to 100 at least more episodes of stop Podcasting Yourself.