Stop Podcasting Yourself - Episode 917 - John Cullen

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

Comedian John Cullen returns to talk about his new curling book, massage guns, and 28 Years Later. Follow us: Instagram, Facebook, Bluesky. Join our Discord.

Hi, he's Dave Shumka. And he's Graham Clark. And together we host. Stop podcasting yourself. Woo! Hello, everybody, and welcome to episode number 917 of Stop Podcasting Yourself. My name's Graham Clark. With me, as always, is a man who,

Fancy's himself an Oreo thin over an Oreo regular, Mr. Dave Shumka. Yeah, here's my hot food take. Okay, go. The stuffing is the worst part of the Oreo. Yes, you've said that before. Yeah. And you know what? I used to get the Christy or Nabisco chocolate waferes.

Yes. They don't make them anymore. They don't. They're not available. Oh, man. I should have spent more time with it. I know. Yeah.

Oh, man. They were so good for dipping in milk. They would just disintegrate. And you just like, you know, you could stuff a bunch of them in your mouth all the ones. Anyways, they were fun. They were fun cookies. They really don't make them anywhere? And I check the baking aisle.

I check, because people crush them up and make the, like, cake. Yes. Toppers or bottomers. Bottomers. Crust. Cheescake crusts, bottoms, whatever. Yeah, I'm sort of a, what do they call someone who can do both? Switch.

First of all, get yourself a man who can do both. But, yeah, there was sort of power bottoms. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're not in the cookie aisle. They're on the baking aisle. I went online, not since, like, 2020. Yeah, I have a fit. Well, I'll get it to go later. Our guest today, a repeat guest here on the podcast, a three-peat.

A repeat. Yeah. And he has, since, I know him from comedy, but since then, he has become a podcaster. He's become an author. He's become a color commentator. He's Mr. Curling himself, Mr. John Cullen. Thank you, guys. so much. Thank you for having me back. Just would like

to report, I am a cheesecake bottom. Oh, okay. Yeah. I do love that because that sort of crushed up cookie crust. Yeah. Yeah. That's as good as it gets. There used to be, you know, Vortman. That was kind of weird. Yes, Vortman. There was one. There was one. Do you not know those? They're like, oh, it's like a Dutch. Yeah. It's like a Dutch. Yeah. Like a traditional drawing of a. Yeah. And they kind of like flat long plastic. Yep. I'm going to look at the Vortman. Vortman. Vortman. And like

if they're still going, Mr. Oh, they're absolutely. Oh, they are. Okay. But they had one that I loved and they discontinued it. Nothing worse than that. I, my idea for an app or a website is a thing that lets you know, hey, by the way, your favorite whatever lip gloss, uh, cookie, uh, it's done.

Coca-Cola is going to be done in one month. Buy as many as you can. Give yourself food poisoning in a year when the leftover packages you have are the only, that lip gloss. Did we get to know us? We are now. Get to know us. John?

Yes. You are a cheesecake bottom. Yeah. I'm a cheesecake bottom. Thank you. What type of cake or pie are you atop? Oh, that's an excellent question as well. I would say most pies.

I'm more of a pie filling guy than a pie crust guy. Oh, okay. So I'm sort of the opposite of Dave's Oreo stance. Right. Yeah, but I would also say a lot of pies have a top that is crust. Yes, exactly. And I don't need that. Would you eat?

I like a sour cherry pie. Would you eat a filling just with no crust at all? Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Do you? I had an apple yesterday. Yeah.

Some people say like, oh, I love this without the pie. If you say pie filling, some people think of the can. Yeah. That's, oh, gross. Which seems very. Would I just open a can and eat pumpkin pie right out of the can? Would you? I might.

I might have to microwave Pumpkin? I don't like pumpkin. Well, because it's, that's not sweetened. Oh, you have to mix it in and. You have to make your own, you have to make your own like pumpkin spice. Oh, I see. Okay.

So out of the can would be disgusting. It doesn't come that way. There might be some brands that do it, Vortman. Bortman, maybe. That's where I used to always go for my sweetened pumpkin pie filling, my pre-spiced. What is your top pie? Oh, I do like a sour cherry. I like a blueberry.

Um, and I also am a fan of the, uh, of cream pies. Yeah, cream pies. You're your coconuts. You're talking tops about it. There we go. Um, your coconuts, your bananas, your chocolates. Yeah. Yeah.

So you're not, um, you're not like a top crust guy. No, don't like the top crust. Okay. Just like, like, it's fine. I'm not like get, I'm not going to pull it off or something if it's on there. But I'm not like, hey, you know what? I've never seen anybody do that. That would be very funny.

I just feel about it. Does anybody want this? Is this by convertible? Exactly. Like, I wouldn't, I don't think I would do that. Oh, that would be cool if, like, you're from Toronto, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If someone made a Skydome pie that had a retractable.

Oh, yes. Home of the Skydome pie. The sky dome, the very famous Skydome pie. Yeah, it's like deep dish Chicago. And you look inside and Alan Thick and Andrea Barton are singing. I don't follow baseball at all, but the Js are on a hot street. They just won last night. Yeah, they're going to the American League championship series.

Okay. And they're going to face either the Seattle Mariners, yay. Yay. Or Detroit Tigers. Detroit Tigers. Booh. We don't like them. Are you a mariner guy, Dave?

Because there are, there is a subset of Vancouver. I am not a big baseball fan. But I do have a soft spot for the Mariners. Okay. Because they are traditionally bad. True. Yes. So famously never won.

Yeah. That's kind of their whole thing. When I started following hockey as a Vancouver Canucks fan, I believe the Canucks had the record for the longest streak of losing seasons. They had, like, lost 13 seasons in a row, like, below 500. Yeah. And I think the Mariners eclips that. So you like a loser?

I, yeah, I mean. I mean, Bruce's in the clinic. I didn't say it. I didn't say anything. I gesture. You gestured at me. For those at home, Dave. pointed at Graham.

Yeah, he didn't point it, John. Well, I don't like him. Ain't that the truth. So in the, in the meantime between the last time you were here. Last time you were here, you were talking about your new podcast series about curling. About curling. Yes. And now I'm talking about the book I wrote about curling.

I'm very conscious of the fact that the two previous times I've been on your show, we have mostly talked about curling. So it's okay if we don't talk about curling. curling. Okay, but tell us about writing a book for crying out of that. The book, tell us just the name of the book. The book is called curling rocks. Moving on. Yep. And it's, it's about like curly your eye lashes. Yes, exactly. Is it like curling rocks with an exclamation point? Yes, curling rocks, exclamation point, subtitle Chronicles of the Roaring game. Why is it the roaring game? Because that's the sound that people think the rock makes as it's going down the ice.

Dave, too scary. It's too scary. I know it's October, but it's still too scary. Yeah, curling is actually sponsored by Katie Perry. And so that's what they call it. A song called Roar. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's right.

Checks. Your dad is a geologist. He is. And so he would probably see the book and be like, actually curling rocks. The curling occurs over a million of years to rock. He would talk about sedimentary. You know, in the life span of rock.

And this point you're doing is by the human being is only a blink of a eye. Well, I think your dad would be fascinated because all the curling stones come from the exact same place. Really? Yeah, every curling stone in the world is from this one quarry on an island just off the coast of Scotland. It's called Ailsa Craig. Really? Yes. Imagine getting stranded there and being like, what am I going to do with this?

What am I going to do? Oh, I could build rocks. This is that in the book? That is not in the book. Really? I don't bring up. Oh, I got to talk to your editor. I know, I know.

That's Charlie, Charlie DeMere's past guest of this program is the editor of this show. I got this number. Or the editor of this book, I mean, not this show. Oh, maybe you should edit this show. Yeah. Hey, Charlie, take this part out. So how long start to finish did it take you to write said book? They gave me six months.

Whoa. It was just pouring out of you. It was just, I couldn't stop it. Once the flow started, I couldn't stop. Yeah, they, because they kind of said, they're like, we only release books. As a joke. Yeah, nobody reads them anymore. Exactly.

That's what they said. And I laughed. And then they cut me a check. And I was like, this is a great joke. It was joke rules. But yes, so they, uh, they said, we only release books in spring and fall. This is obviously a fall book. Uh, they, so they gave me the offer last September.

September 2024 and they're like Can you have this done by March 1st 2024? Yeah Because we are 2025 because they're like You need to go back in time. Yeah, you gotta go six months in reverse And also warn me. Yeah, and tell us Who uh, no, going back in time wouldn't get you any Oh, if you met your pass up. Yeah, you go back in time. That's the whole

cars. Yeah, it's wards cards So yeah, so then I said I guess so and then yeah I wrote it in six months. Sixty five thousand words. It's a, is it essays? It is, yes. Are there glossy page photos in it? No, but there are illustration.

That's the only thing I wanted. That's what I flipped to immediately. Son of a bitch. There's illustrations, though, by Alyssa Herosi, Vancouver, local Vancouver artist. Yeah. Cool. So she's great and did some illustrations,

but yeah, no glossy. This might shock you, Graham. People were not looking for a hardcover, glossy photo curling book. Well, that's, You know, that's on them. I agree. You know, that's their loss.

That's what I'm saying. You did the book launch yesterday at a curling ring. That's correct. Did you sign books? I did. Yeah. Did you put a funny little thing in it? I tried to.

Yeah. Yeah, I did some little, yeah, especially because it was my home curling club, like where I grew up curling. So I knew some of the people there. So was able to, you know, hey, to Doug, thanks for kicking my ass on Tuesday nights when I was 16 years old. Ha ha. When did you move out here?

In 1999. I give me an age 13 Okay I want you to guess I should let you guess I said you were from I said you were from Toronto

I am from Toronto but moved here when I was 13 in 1999 Right you got a curling scholarship When you're 1999 Did you understand the significance of the Prince song That it was so popular during that year I did yeah

And Y2K We sort of said you know what Y2K is gonna hit the West Coast last Yeah it's true We may be the most alive That's why we made So your parents moved That's smart

They were Y2K truthers Did you, you would have been 14 on Y82K. You stay up until, until midnight. We'll do math. We can do the math. We all had a birthday on January 1st. That's how it works. Did you stay up?

I did stay up. Yeah, were you scared. I was scared. I think we were all. Yeah, I was going to say, were you guys not a little bit scared? Well, no, because Australia had gotten through fine. And there was also a Jennifer Lopez video where the waiting for tonight. Dropped and it goes 99.

Now, being 13 in 1999, that maybe explains why you have a new metal podcast. I think so, Dave. It might, yeah. Are you a new metal guy, Dave? No, I was 19 in 1999. Okay, that's fair. But you were 14 when Corne's debut album, Corn. Oh, he's a corn head.

Oh, sure. Big Corn guy. Okay. They played here last week, I think. They did. I went to the show in Calgary. And they still use a crazy microphone stand? I feel like he does.

Yes, you remember that. Yeah. Okay, yeah. Did he pipe? He did pipe Oh shit Yeah both sexually and Backpipes

Oh fuck I was He laid in pipe He was laying the pipe That's during like a real down You know Like a solo kind of Fans are starting to stream Towards the exits

And he's like Whoa no wait wait wait You're missing the best part But yes For those of you who are not Cornheads like myself And Dave and Graham And Dave and Graham

Apparently Yes Jonathan Davis spent I believe For those of you aren't corn fans Jonathan Davis is a member of the band. Yeah, he's not the guy who created Garfield. People were down. Wait, why are they talking about Garfield all of a sudden?

Do you think Jonathan Davis is a mixture of Jim Davis, the creator, and John Arbuckle, the character? I'm guessing, yes. I'm guessing that's what Graham thought. But, yeah, he, the rumor was it was 50 grand, but he got, like, uh, custom, like, I believe it was designed by HR Guy. It was. And it's like a, it's a naked woman, like, leaning back and, uh, I love it when they do that. I know.

As a prominent, uh, chest area. Uh, and then, yeah, he, he still has that mic stand. What if he, what if the, you know, he lost it in kind of in transit? What, what would he use? Just a normal microphone stand? I'm guessing he doesn't perform. Oh, he just doesn't. He's had it for 25 years now.

He probably wouldn't know what to do without it. He could, you could do like Stephen Tyler, but some. scarves? Oh, scarves, yeah. Yeah, what were the big, what are the big mic stand moves? Freddie Mercury with the half, the half stand. Literally, that's the only one I was thinking of either. Do you feel like, isn't there somebody that really uses like a bullhorn in their act?

I feel like there's somebody that I'm forgetting. Yeah, the bullhorn Freddy. I think there's a couple like Green Day songs. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yes, yeah. American idiot, they went heavy on the bullhorn. A lot of political statements going on there. And a lot of people, they do a little invisible, you know.

Oh, sure. Yeah, the Britney Spears, the, yeah. The Madonna. You think if you have a mic stand, you got to do some moves with it. You got to, like, knock it over and kick it back up again. Definitely. You know, James Brown would do that. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Big time. I mean, I guess, like, Sabrina Carpenter has the, like, sequined microphone, but it's not like a stand. I feel like some of your, your pop stars will do something with the microphone itself. Yeah. And as far as the stand goes, I feel like famous microphone stands. And that's a cool Google search.

That is, that's the Google search of a mid-40s model. Oh, well, first thing that comes up, you know it's Jonathan Davis, creator of Garfield. What a cool fucking stand. Yeah. I mean, look at that thing. It is amazing. Like, it is. It does look.

Who is this guy from. Okay. The Sweden Rock Festival. This guy looks really. Sweden Rock. It's, don't they know the famous phrase curling rocks? Thank you, Dave. I was hoping for that.

Yeah, this is Blackie Lawless from Wasp and his famous Skelligan microphone stand named Elvis. Nice. Oh, he's from Wasp is like, I remember that. They've been around forever. Yeah, they were in 80s carryover, Wasp. They were kind of a tougher version of. Of bumblebees.

Yeah, of poison, you know. Yeah, yeah. The band B-U-M-B-L-E-E-E-E. What was the band? It was very hard to write. Is there a, like a Christian rock band that wore Bumblebee outfit? Oh, you're thinking of Saturday Live. I'm thinking of Striper.

Striper. Striper. They were Christian, I think, right? Striper. Yeah, did they wear stripes? Or am I thinking of Sting? Because he wore a sweater once? He wore of a stripy jumper once. Yeah, I think that's what you're thinking of.

Did you ever listen to old metal? No, not really. I was, I was, so I didn't even get into corn initially. Like, I was nine when their debut album came out. Thanksgiving's coming up I was telling my kids what we're eating They're only into corn And you know what

We're going to play corn the whole time It's time for you to learn If you want only corn for Thanksgiving And we are listening None of the instrumental stuff Just the scatting Yeah Yeah and then on Halloween Eve

Candy corn They got to learn But yeah so I Freak on a leash came out That was pretty good Thanks Yeah Dave you want to try or

No I would We've both done it I mean. Well, if you jumped off a bridge, would I do? You might. How's how are things going? Things have been. Sometimes I feel like a freak on a leash.

You should see the microphone. Feeling like you have no release? It's also an HR Geiger. Yeah. It looks like a hand. It looks like a hand in an arm. And I kind of wrote off all those bands. And then I'm surprised whenever someone's like talks about Lincoln Park actually being meaningful.

Yeah, sure. Different time. Yeah. I mean, well, Lincoln Park for you, especially, you're 20 when Lincoln Park comes out. I mean, there's no way you're, you're getting into, it starts with one thing. I don't know why. It doesn't even matter how hard you try. And that's what you want on this pod.

But, uh, you're like, okay, good. I hope John comes in and wraps Lincoln Park on the show. Did you dress in the new metal style? Oh, you bet. Yeah, what did you have? What was your go to? Uh, well, I had the, uh, I had the very baggy jeans, which the company at the time. So America had jinkos, that's sort of the famous one.

I guess Canada probably had Jinko's too, but I had, it was a company called Extreme. Oh, nice. Extreme jeans. Okay. And they made extremely baggy jeans. I had a white pair. I had a black pair. Yes.

Yeah. And, like, wow, that's bold of you having a white pair. I know. And then I had baggy, like, I had baggy band shirts. I also. I'm trying to come up with a Canadian, like, pun for Jinko. Oh, Canada had. I can't think of a good one, though.

Oh, geez. What's the guys who used to make a hockey bag on? I went to their flag. ship store, Jinko Quitlam? That's not great. It's not great, but that was the first thing that came to mind. I bought it at the hockey rinko. That's pretty good.

Rinkos. We're getting there. We're getting there. That was when you actually wore them to play hockey. He had the baggy hockey. Yeah, they remember that year that the flyers and the whalers wore jinkos? Yeah. Disastrous.

Yeah, that was, I mean, that look was crazy. Did you have, because I feel like this was a big thing with bag bag. It's not one thing. I don't know why. Doesn't even matter how hard you try. There we go. Keep that in mind. I designed this rhyme to explain and do time.

All I know. Okay, David, it sounds like Lincoln Park was pretty many. I actually don't know anymore except the part where it goes out the window. Try to hold on, but you didn't even know we watched. We stood on it all just to watch you cry. Where, where, where? You're such a fucking baby. Get out of here.

Remix. Baby Remax, Jason Derulo. I feel with really baggy jeans, they would eventually get like dragged on the streets and on the floors and just become absolutely disgusting from the bottom up. 100%. And they were always ripped and you would step on the holes

because they'd get ripped at the bottom. You'd step on the holes. Yeah, it wasn't a good time. And then I also, I couldn't afford to buy that many band shirts. They were more expensive than just like, you know, my mom buying me a shirt at Zellers or whatever. So I remember I bought a corn patch because that was only like three bucks. Yeah, yeah.

And I sewed it to a bucket hat. Oh, and so I had a corn patch bucket hat that I wore in the summer of probably 2000. You were Mr. 1999. It was a tough. It was a tough. It was a tough. It was a tough.

It was a tough look for sure. Did you have like a posse? Do you have a bunch of friends that were also in the middle? No, I was in the gifted program. I was alone on an island with all these nerds. I was the only. I wasn't cool, but I was the only guy listening to that music. Yeah, must have been very isolating.

It was, and it was sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy with the music. Which came first? Me being lonely or the music about loneliness? I'm not sure. And what's this genius program you're talking about? Well, I think we don't have to get into that. I did go to a different school, though. Like in Ontario, if you were designated as gifted, they made you go to a different school

with all the other gifted kids. Like the X-Men? Yes, pretty much exactly like that. And what was your mutant power? What was your... Well, I knew all the lyrics to Wicked Park. Yeah, freak on a leash. I could scat on the playground.

Okay, that was good, too. You guys both have a good aptitude for the scatting. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Scaptitude. Yeah, I guess that was it. Math, were you good at... Math, were you good at... Excellent, students.

Math. Horrible at math. Good at writing. Yeah. Yeah. Good at writing. Good at English. History.

And you've written a book. I guess. That's the word on the street. Yeah. It's all come full circle. Now, let's hear an excerpt. From the book? Yeah.

It starts with one. One rock. It goes down a sheet. You sweep really hard and it beats you. It's really neat. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty much how it goes.

Yeah. So did you at this book launch, did you read? I read. I fucked up, guys. I fucked up because I've been to book launches before, I assume you both have. I've said I would. You're like, I replied maybe on a Facebook invite. No, I go, I buy the book and I leave.

Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. So I, uh, I've been to some before where I, the reading always feels interminably long. Doesn't matter how long you're reading for. You're like, is this adult really reading to me right now? So I really went in with a clear vision and Charlie Demers. was also moderating the thing. Okay.

So I told him, I'm like, I'm going short. I know that gets way too long. And then I just, I screwed up, guys. I picked a chapter that was too long and it didn't resolve in a way where I could just kind of roll out halfway through. I had to stick with it. I read for too long. And I felt bad the whole time.

What's your favorite chapter? It's probably chapter, I think it's four. I have a chapter about how people think that they're going to go to the Olympics for curling and they just have absolutely no chance of making it to the Olympics and curling. I read an entire chapter explaining to people why they won't make the Olympics and curling. Why did people think

that? Because it's not like it's not like a sport where some kind of like genetic advantage. I mean, have you seen curlers lately though? They are all pretty jack. Yeah, I got a poster on my wall of Mr. Gushu. Okay, nice. Nice.

Yeah, that's a good. That's a good pull. I was like Is Graham going to come up with an actual curler here? Are we just going to make up a name? Yeah, I had a post of Sandra Schmler. Schmler the curler. That was nice. I think the Olympic sport that you could get into as an older person is gun stuff. Guns sport.

Gun stuff. Or finger stuff. What Olympic sport do you do? I do guns. I do guns. It's mostly that. Well, yeah, because there was the Turkish guy. Well, there were two.

There was the who got kind of famous. There were two memes. There was the Turkish guy who was just like... Yeah, had no... ...look like anyone's dad. Yeah. And then there was someone from Asia. I want to say Korea.

I want to say that as well. Yeah. And I think a woman... Yes. Who had, like, tiny glasses and... James Bondian. It was very... Yeah, James Bond sniper villain.

Yeah, totally. So, yeah, I think it's just like curling is very hard to get good at. And... But with these new brooms, it's easy. as They've been banned They've been banned They've been banned

Oh I didn't Hear the end of the Podcast This is an episode one I heard they were having Some kind of Sweeper Summit I mean you probably

Worked on the pod Did you think I would have Okay but no I was not Do any editing Or I was not I was not John Cullen

I don't really like that guy But not even that I just How do I make this interesting It was like No I was Some short

Short cuts That point I was not even in the office anymore so it was like I had my projects I think I listened to a couple episodes to give notes but this is good yeah yeah so that's why we ran into a huge snag on episode three yeah we got the shumka cut so then besides becoming an author you've also become like a commentator guy I commentate curling yeah do you wear a special curling a sports coat when you're narrating. No, but we have actually talked about that, doing like the old hockey

night in Canada. I've had the baby blues with the patch. We've talked about doing something like that for curling. We think it would be pretty funny. Is this on PSN? No, I commentate for this, for a streaming service actually. So we Is it Netflix? It is it's Netflix. It's us and

Jake Paul. We got in on the same contract. God bless that guy. I know. Kind of crazy. He's really just, he's sort of rising tide lifts all boat situation. Yeah. So I,

yeah, so we, I work for the Grand Slams. We have our own streaming service called the Rock Channel.

I was going to make fun of the that I was trying to come up with a streaming service. It's literally just called the Rock Channel. Yeah.

And so I stream, or I do commentary for the streams there. There aren't enough streaming services to like, to be no. Ludo. We tried to get that

show me deal. Turns out that's just shut down seven years ago. Yeah. Could have a hey you. Quibby. Quibby You got your Rokos

It could be Roku That's it right there Got it So you Is it Is it How often do you

Commentate Is there like Stuff constantly going on Our tournaments are a week long And we do five of them So I go from Sunday to Sunday Like next week As we're recording this

I go to Niskew Alberta Which is just outside of Edmonton Okay And we're doing a tournament there And so I'll do two or three games a day for the whole week. Okay. So listeners, this is like this will be out when you're there.

Yep. So, uh, download you can use code spy to get a free trial on the Rock streaming app. Yeah. Uh, that's Rock R.C.K. There's no. Yes. It's the, it's 2025. Maybe vowels are out. They're out. They're out. And it's RCCK

all capitals. Uh, yeah, definitely. But what is it really? It is actually Rock Channel. Just spelled normal. And it's free already. No need for a code spy. Okay.

Well, you know, put it in. Yeah, yeah, put it in there. We haven't had a code in years. Yeah. Well, what do we would have? You also get a mattress. You get a mattress as well as the rock channel. Those are the days.

When you enter in Code Spy. What do is Squarespace? We did. Stamps.com, you guys definitely, zip recruiter. We did tons of Squarespace and ZipRecruiter. And we did, we did Sherry's Barry's once. We did the lugger. Away?

We did, yeah. Did you get a free? I still use it. Oh, good. Yeah. I have an away luggage, but I paid for it like an idiot. How much was it? Too much.

Too much. Yeah, I got it for nothing. We got it. We did get a Casper mattress for free. That is amazing. And we only did them like twice. Yeah. Did you use it?

We didn't need one at the time, but Alicia Tobin got it. Okay. Okay. She had it for a while. That's really good. We had this similar with Block Party. We did a couple where we did one ad and they gave us way more free product than should be normal.

For a mattress company? No, we didn't do match. We weren't big. We were not big enough for mattress money boys, but we did, it was shorts. We did shorts, bird dogs. Oh, bird dog shorts? Yeah. You still wear them?

No. But they sent us a bunch and then we did athletic greens. Did you guys do? Oh, no, yeah. That was after our, after your time. Yeah, we stopped doing ads five years ago. Yeah. Okay.

And then what Dylan went electric? Yeah. What was the other? Oh, we did fresh prep. Or Fresh Crap, Hello Fresh. Hello Fresh. And that was fine. Those meal delivery things, have you ever done one?

I have not. I've just, I've heard too many horror stories about the food poisoning that tends to come afterwards. But did you guys get free ones? Did you use it? Did you like it? I found it to be, it was a lot of work. It's a lot of, like, they measure it out, by the way, if you, if you're going to get some hell press use, let's be a dirty little secret of podcast advertising.

The products all suck. But no, I think Hello Fresh, my problem was so much waste. They'd measure out the food so there's no waste. But then you get these like freezer packs and plastic and they got to keep the food frozen. And but I like cooking and I like thinking of food to make and like finding recipes. And if you don't like that, then this is probably a great thing for you because they come up with everything for you. Yeah, it's just the one that we had, like, had risotto in it. Like, risotto takes a lot of attention.

Yeah. Tell, you know, watching Hell's Kitchen reruns on Roku. They fuck up that risotto every time. Every time. You got to keep it moving. You got to keep it moving. It has to be kept moving. And it can't be too liquidy.

That's the other thing. Nope. It's like the bus from speed. It has to be kept moving. Or it explodes. Yeah, or it's too liquid. Or it gets too liquidy. Yeah.

You can't sweat too much on the bus from speed or. Or you'll die. Trouble. Too liquid. Did you guys like speed? Never watched it. Really? Wow.

It's like die hard on a bus. Yeah. Never watched diehard. And the, uh, the introduction to the world of Miss Sandra Bullock. Of, I think the only Sandra Bullock movie I've ever seen as miscongenitality. Well, if you got to pick one. It's pretty good. Yeah.

Yeah. I think she was in, was she not in, um, that. Speed two? No, the one before that. The one before that, the, was she in like the, of the net? No. Was it a Sylvester Stallone with. Leslie Snipes.

Oh, Develation Man. Is she in that? He is in that. Yeah, I think that was before. And it, uh, have you ever seen Devalision Man?

No. Damn it. I don't watch a lot of movies. No, clearly. Yeah. What do you watch? A movie guy.

TV. Yeah. Yeah. Was the last movie. And the rock channel. The last movie I saw was, I went to the theaters to see a movie, which is very rare for me.

I guess was it, I think I went to see Friendship. Oh, yeah. The Tim Robinson, Paul Rudd vehicle. Did you love it? No. Yeah. It was fine.

Yeah, it was fine. It was fine. I think, yeah, my audience was raring for it to be a 90-minute sketch. Yes. And it definitely was not that. And I think part of the problem for me was I saw people whose taste I would respect be like, this is the funniest movie I've ever seen. And I was like, hmm, I've seen funnier.

Yeah. I saw Jackass in theaters. I mean, you can't. Yeah, cast a theater was amazing. You can't top that experience. Especially when you're 13. Yeah, I was 17, probably, I guess, or 18, but, oh, my God, what a film. When I, the, when I saw Napoleon Dynamite, it was in a Pact Theater.

People were losing their mind, because what the fuck were we watching? Yeah. What is this thing? Good point. Yeah. I didn't see that in theaters. The ones that stick out for me are jackass and super bad. I saw Super Bad in theaters and that was also, like, when you see it in a packed theater,

it feels like those days are gone, boys. They are. Well, I went to the naked. gun this summer. Oh, I did go to the naked gun, too. That actually is maybe... They've already made two? They've made four, Dave. I went to that also. And, okay, so that's actually probably the more recent one I went to. That came out after friendship, I think. Yeah. And that, yeah, that was fun. But my theater wasn't packed. Wow, this guy's like Mary Lou Henner. He remembers that that movie

came out after that movie. Do you know the Mary Lou Henner reference? No. She's an actress on taxi. And she says she has, she remembers everything from her whole life. Oh, okay. Every date. She's got a diary memory. Like, honestly, really? I don't remember what I did yesterday. I mean, I could look at my calendar and be like, oh, yeah, yeah. Wasn't there also a gymnast named Mary Lou Renner? I feel like I'm getting very confused. Well, you think of Mary Lou Retton. Retton, that's what I'm thinking. I knew you'd have that. Spelled differently. Yeah, definitely. Well, no, Mary Lou was even spelled differently. Yes, that was, she had a weird. And Jeremy Renner was a Got hit by a snowplow.

He got hit by a snowplow. Yeah. I tried to watch back in the day he was in a movie called Dahmer. Yes. And I tried to watch it. I got like five minutes in. I was like, this is awful. Like, why would anybody subject to him?

Was he Jeffrey Dahmer? Oh, wow. Jeremy Renner is Jeffrey Dahmer? Yeah. Jeremy Renner is Jeffrey Daughter. This spring. Spring. I only think of Jeremy Renner also because my friend Stefan shut down his app very

famously. Stefan Hacks past guest of the show. Jeremy Renner had like he was trying to do this like Instagram knockoff app, but he was the only account and he would, so he would post photos of himself on this app and then it had a place where you could comment. And so Stefan and a bunch of his friends went on to the app and he did a post that was like, what are you up to this weekend? And they said, I'm going to be spending my weekend watching porno.

And then a bunch of people commented that. And then he just ended up like it. So then that started this. Stefan's kind of a rascal. He is a bit of a rascal, yeah. And so they started this, like, chain reaction of people jumping on the app and just, like, getting in the comments and they ended up shutting down the app. And didn't he, wasn't there something with a car and his musical?

Well, no, he did a Jeep ad. Yeah, it was a Jeep, yeah. And he was like, uh... But did the Jeep come with his entire album or something like that? I remember, I feel like there's some really stupid thing like that. This limited edition Jeep comes up a CD player. You can't eject to the CD, though. It's molded in there.

You can take the doors off of the Jeep. You just can't take this CD out. I forgot he does really bad music as well. Yeah. Yeah, that's cool. I don't think he, I don't think that's fair. Yeah. He's just following his museless.

Yeah. Would you, if you're given free tickets, would you go and see Kevin Bacon and the Bacon Brothers? Boy, I feel like no. No? No. How far is it from me? I don't even... Half hour?

No, chance. I don't even go to concerts where I like the band and I've already bought tickets. I talk myself out of it. You're one of those guys. Day of. I'm like, oh, boy. And do you try to sell them or you just go whatever? Yeah, I've sold them.

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes it's like, well, who's going to want? This thing didn't even sell out. Yeah. This is more, this is my... Nobody wants to go to the bacon, bro. This is my equivalent of going to a book lunch, buying the book and leave.

I'm just, yeah, I'm supporting the band by buying a ticket. Okay, how about this? Would you rather watch the Bacon Brothers or the son and daughter from Gene Simmons doing a jazz? Yeah, Nick and Sophie Simmons. Doing their jazz project or, but, you know, it doesn't exist now, but back in the day, Bruce Willis's Bruno character that played blues and harmonica. Oh, boy, yeah, those are three. Those are three things. I don't like jazz.

Okay, so that's out. The Simmons are out. I guess I don't like blues. The Bruno shit is crazy. I hadn't seen it until recently, and it is horrible. I got the album out. I got it on vinyl. I can't believe they made vinyl.

I can. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you didn't see, you haven't seen Die Hard, so you don't know. You don't even know who he is. You only know him as a musician. I only know him from Unbreakable. Yeah, which is, I enjoy. Yeah, good.

I've seen Armageddon, too. That might be the only... They made another one? Son bitch! It's Armageddon, too. T-O-O-O, you know, like who's talking to. And the asteroid has sunglasses on. I like the idea that it's a second Armageddon, so it's like reversing the premise of the first one as well.

Yeah. Oh, the first one actually, no, the asteroid did hit. The Earth. Or we have to go to the Earth because it's going to run it to the asteroid. The Earth is going to be to the asteroid. So we need to get some oil drillers. Oh, that's a classic. Yeah.

I actually have, oh, no, I have seen Armageddon. Yeah, I saw it on the strength of, I don't want to miss a thing. Yeah. Oh, I don't want to close my. I saw it on the strength of Ben Affleck. Doing the animal crackers? You're doing animal crackers on Lynn Tyler's belly button? Yeah.

And who's among us guys? I mean, am I right? What's that? Wouldn't want to do an animal cracker on the live Tyler's belly button. I would snore one off her bellybone. Oh, not even crushed up or anything. That's the opening scene of Armageddon, too. That would be very funny if he had one of those like sushi women, but it was just like cookies and crackers.

Yeah. And like, dip. Charcotorie. Charcooterie woman. Yeah. Or like just like a crew today. Yeah. Just like an adult who just never got into like adult food.

Yeah. Can you do chicken fingers and fries with a woman's back, please? I would love that. Do you guys do that? Do you put the dips right on the back, or do you put them in a ramek and before you put that on that? I don't understand the appeal of that at all. The sushi thing off of a human seems disgusting.

Yeah, I think the appeal is obvious. Yeah, the appeal is. I'm not saying it would appeal to me, but I think the appeal I understand. Oh, it's like, uh, I can objectify a person. That's true. Oh, you're a tray. Yeah.

We're not serving ribs, though. Those are going to go everywhere. But we'll serve. You'll eat off your ribs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly. We'll eat ribs off your ribs. Yeah, we have a selection of pie fillings.

No crust. What about, what about this? Uh, uh, you go to like a buffet and it's got pie, you got pie crust, and then you put in your own filling. Like you mix fillings or you can go back You can have sour cherry And then do you have to bake them? No, it's all, like, it's all warm

And then you're just putting it on the crust And maybe there's also a lattice station that you could put Yeah, I sure I think it would be good if it was like You could freestyle like you could do the cookie crust Like you have a selection of crust Because the cookie crust is unbelievable Yeah

So if I could have like a sour cherry filling on a cookie crust Are you a cheese? Are you a cheesecake person? Love cheesecake, yeah. Have you been to the factory of them? I've heard of it. No, I have been, yeah. And I've never been.

Is it good? I'll say this. How many pages do you like your menu to be? 15 minimum. Well, then you would love the cheesecake factor. Gordon Ramsey gets really mad about it. He says you should only specialize in one or two things. Yeah, I went to a book reading at a curling place last night, and the person was reading

the cheesecake factory. It took forever. Chapter 4. Here's why you'll never be a cheesecake. It is also funny that it's called the cheesecake factory. You would think they wouldn't go so hard to make a bunch of other stuff. Right. Like it's in the name.

You're specializing in the cheesecake. Why are we, why does the, why is the menu a hundred items? It rocks, though. I actually don't, I like the cheesecake factory. And I, I don't really like cheesecake, but I, they have this big display case of like 50 cheesecakes. Yes. And you can kind of be like, well, I'm not into cheesecake, but that one looks like it's mostly made out of Oreos. I'll, yeah, I'll get that one.

Yeah. Yeah, I think maybe only had cheesecake once or twice in my entire life. Really? Yeah. Oh, because you, because of gluten? No. You're allergic to the Golden Girls? Yeah, I'm allergic.

Do you ever watch the Golden Girls? No. They always ate cheesecake. Well, he doesn't like TV. He's more of a movie. Oh, did you eat Golden Girls? Your Armageddon's one, two, three. Yeah, what's the closest to a Gordon Girls?

Gordon girls Like who if you like Gold Grosoteau is horrible It's just yelling at old women Fucking raw Oh the movie equivalent Yeah 80 for Brady

Yeah That's it Perfect Yeah Calendar Calendar girls You gotta see that Yeah calendar

I randomly reviewed that for a website Really? Yeah I have a DVD of calendar girls Why did you review it It's great question Yeah They sent it to me What was this website

Website was it? I wrote for a pop culture website What was calendar girls It was like It was about the first like charity calendar that people were nude. Was it British? It was Helen Mirren is in it. Full Monty.

Full Monty, but calendar and it's, yeah, it was like these old ladies who are trying to save their garden club. Yeah, it's like full Monty, but with, whatever, what's the British slang for? A bunch of it. Birds, with birds. No, I mean, but they're showing, they're showing, yeah, they're showing their

minge. They're showing fannies. Fannies, yeah. Was there a movie called Callender Girl about Jason Priestley chasing down Marilyn Monroe? Yes. Like, cool. Everybody on the cast got like a chance to make a movie. And I feel like Luke Perry's was.

Eight seconds. Shannon Doherty was maybe in a vampire thing. Yes, she was. Wasn't she? Charmed? Was she in Charmed? Charmed. But that was a movie.

Yeah. And then Jenny Garth didn't make a movie. No. I and Zero made Shark Nato. He got his chance 30 years later. She was the cutest one to me, that Jenny Garth. Jenny Garth, yeah. My locker partner in junior high insisted on putting up Tori spelling in our locker.

Yeah, she never got a movie. She got a place of honor in my locker. Tell me about your locker partner. His name was Eric. He decorated the locker first day. Like he came. No, his name was Shane, rather. And he came with already prepared posters that were.

He was ready magazine. Yeah. And so it was going to be a 902 and O locker, but really, Tori spelling the star of the locker. I had a, my locker was decorated with an autographed picture of Corky and the Juice Pigs. Nice. Nice. Corky himself? Well, Sean Cullen.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. My uncle. Is he? No. Sean Curlin. Yep, you got it. And then I believe

In 19 Oh boy When I was in grade 8 We flew through Los Angeles Airport And they had laugh factory magazine Oh hell yeah And it had Tim Allen on the cover And I'm like I'm getting this

Yeah yeah Cut so many things out of it And put it in my locker I remember one was like a top 10 list of reasons To quit drinking coffee And one of them was jet black urine That's pretty good Yeah

Yeah I feel like In my household We had like a book of top tens From The Letterman show They're funny They're funny with or without him They're just solid writing It was like

You would have to pace yourself Like there's going to be a couple in here Because you can't get laughs the whole way This is a one minute segment But So there would be some throwaway ones in there Well, show business, man, you know? I know.

Dave, what's going on with you, my friend? Oh, my God. What is going on with me? Well, oh, I just wanted to let people know that this podcast now has a Discord. Oh, yeah. We're on the Discord now. Oh, welcome to the 21st Century Boys. Yeah, we're sewing Discord.

Yeah, I've gone, it's two posts on it. I don't know what it is. I don't understand how it works. And people have, frankly, I don't like it. People have explained it to me as like, uh, Facebook, if you make a post on Facebook, it's like, I'm making a post. I'm now we, now everyone who wants to talk about this thing has to reply to my post. Right.

And this is, Discord is more like, hey, here's what's happening. And I'm just, you can say a thing and you don't have to be like the center of attention. Yeah. I got to say, though, when I proposed to my first post, I don't feel like I got enough attention. Really? And that was your, was that your first ever discord post? First ever. Wow.

Yeah. And it just kind of. It bombed, you guys. Oh, what did you say? This is crazy. Top ten list I put together. Turns out I did all the ones that get no laughs. People have been posting, like, you know, a daily question, like, what's your favorite animal?

Oh, sure. That kind of thing. Just conversation. Every way around the horn? Favorite animals. Go. Oh, dog. Dogs.

Leamer. orangutan. Yeah. Nice. I think today's question was, what are you a nerd about? Mm.

Uh-huh. Speed. Curling. And I'm, I'm a jock. You're a jock. That's right. I'm not a nerd.

I push kids into lockers. You are kind of like a low-key jock, eh? I am kind of a low-key jock. Yeah. I like that. That's what people say about me as well. But I feel like I'm outwardly more jocky than you. Oh.

Wow. Yikes. Things just got wild. Okay, I'm outwardly more jock, but inwardly I'm nerdier. Well, there's a... I guess there's a million versions of John and he thinks the one we see is the John. Anyway, so join our Discord. I think I can put a link in the...

You know what? It's Discord. Dot com slash... four, seven, eight, two. No, I'll put a link in the show notes. Yeah, and just leave it on, just forget to turn it off on your computer and then in the middle of night, have it go, booboop.

Remember to do that. Turn up notifications as loud as you can. Turn them all on. Yeah, Dave, unfortunately, you already messed it up because it's discord.g. Oh, okay. As in, like, good game. Oh, like good game.

And you know that because you're a jock. Yeah. Outwardly. Outwardly. Yeah. inwardly, very sensitive. Well, you have a long drive home ahead of you. Why did I say that?

I think Dave hates me. Oh, no, John, I love you. Oh, thank you. I like you. Yeah. I don't know you well enough to love you. That would, yeah, I agree. Let it grow, though, you know?

Let it grow. We talked about some of your podcast. How many are there, there's Broomgate. Broomgate's come to an end. It's done. Block Party and it is coming back? No, we, we, We're only doing bonus episodes.

Okay. It's a Patreon only show now. Blocked party. Blocked party, yes. You do the, what is a Jeopardy podcast? I do that as well. You do the corn metal podcast. POD cast.

POD cast. Yep. Did I, is there more? I also have a curling, like, news and interview podcast called the Broome Brothers. Who's the other brother? His name's Robbie Doherty. He's a fellow commentator. Okay.

Fun. Too many pods. But that's why I'm familiar with Discord, because all my pods have discords. You kind of have to spend time on it every day? Yeah, you got to do it nowadays. I know, you got to press the flesh. You got to press the flesh. You got to say, what's your favorite animal?

I'm not a fucking nerd, you know, shit like that. I'm an inward nerd. I'm an inward nerd, but outward, I'm a jock, and I don't have time to answer your stupid little fucking question. Yeah. Here's a jock thing. Hey, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Are you allowed to sing that song? Yeah, at sports.

Yeah, okay. Or joker. Discord. Dot, G-G. Gary Glitter. This summer, I had a muscle issue. Yes. I had an issue in my leg, and I went to the physiotherapist, and they gave me some

exercises to do, and they also said, hey, if you have a Thera gun, you can also massage this here. And I was like, oh, that's great, but I don't. And they're so expensive. And then I was telling him this to my dad. And he was like, oh, I have a therogun. You can borrow it. And I borrowed it.

Guys, I'm addicted to a therogun. I also have a therogun. I also have a therogun. It's not, the one I borrowed is not a therogun brand. Okay. This is on brand. Mine is the therogne. Mine's a renfoe.

Renfow. Nice. And it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, we're talking about massage guns for the list. Yeah. It's like, this is an industrial. This is like, it can really get it. Oh, yeah. Mine came with a bunch of attachments.

Yep. Mostly dildos. Oh, yeah. But that's supposed to be good for the muscle, the flipping and the flopping. But they, I've never used any of the attachments. They look, they're hard plastic. And the one, the standard is just like a foam ball. Oh, mine's like a rub, like a crossball kind of.

Yeah, my attachments, I would say, are all sort of like foam, foamy, fomish. Maybe neoprene. It could be neoprene. Yeah, neoprene. probably is that of you do it like mine goes from one to 20 i don't know what the oh wow well it's a different scale on the renfo uh well where were you going one to 20 i mean tell us that uh i'll go to like 10 right and then for the last few seconds i'll go to 20 and go whoa like it totally like will numb your whole yeah yeah whatever but it's a fun thing to do it's so

fun. Yeah. And do you think it's helping? Yeah. They're really good. Because I, uh, hockey season starting up. Uh, and I've got, uh, boy, my, like, you're not used to the hip muscles that you need to play. And I do some yoga, but I'd rather just pound my hips with a gun.

I feel like those had existed when I was young. It would have been my brothers and I attacking each other with the Therriga. Yeah. I feel like pinning down somebody and doing. Thayeron on their forehead. Or like the way in speaking of Jackass, they would like sneak up on someone with a razor or a

clippers and shape their head from behind. I feel like you would do that with a Thera again. Yeah. Just right in the back of their neck, like where their neck meets their skull. Give them the Vulcan neck thing and they collapse. I don't do that anymore in movies. It used to be the judo chop to the neck and then the guy

would just fall over dead. I think Austin Powers wrecked it, right? Because they made fun of it. Speaking of movies where, everyone was laughing in the theater. Oh. One of the great. One of the great ones.

Experiences. Agreed. But yeah, I do think of that in movies of like, like, to knock someone out and do the perfect amount of knockout. Yes. That doesn't kill them. It only knocks them out for,

well, we need them knocked out for 45 minutes. They wake up in a room. I think I talked about it on this podcast that they had a gag in Austin Powers that they cut out. Every time that they killed like a henchman. you would see this house and you'd see the wife answering the phone and then being like, I'm very sort of report this, but your husband is not going to be coming home. And that they would do that after every guy gets filled.

That's really good. Should have kept it in. Yeah. Yeah, even if they did it once, it would have been hilarious. Yeah, that's so good. I did see some, what was, some deleted scenes from Austin Powers. and there was one where a lot of Fagina. Yeah.

At the very end, they changed. She said she got tired of people making fun of her name. So she changed her name to Sandy Fagina. That's good. Are your daughter's trying the Theragon? Is your wife trying the Therogon? Is this only dad does Therogon? No, Abby's tried it.

Abby likes it. Yeah. We have old creaky books. Yeah, so you just, just the leg, or are you working the whole system? I've done legs, but the whole leg. Yeah. Everywhere from top to bottom. The calf.

Once you get it on that calf. Yeah. Yeah, that's where the original thing, the, um, the physiotherapist was, was pointing out. Yeah. Go calf. Now I want to go. That's what we're going to do as soon as I get home. Do a little there again?

Got it up? Yeah. Do you have like, did you get it because you have a trouble area or you just thought this looks? Sally got it because of she had hip. Okay. And also she broke her foot, so I needed to help make the...

That helps broken bones I've heard. Yeah. Yeah. You just put it right on there and go to town. Who needs a cast? Yeah. But, yeah, it's like they're triangles. Yes.

Yeah. Okay. That's the one I have. Oh, yeah. Mine's a gun. Really? Yeah. Like a gun?

What setting do you put it on? What is it out of? It doesn't have a number on it. Yeah. You just kind of light up and down. It's got five lights, but I feel like it's probably three pushes per light. Like maybe it's one to 15, would you say? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I'm probably, I usually go to like the third light. Do you start with one? I do start with one thing. I don't know why. It doesn't even matter if it's on my thigh. Nice. Thank you. There a gun.

Honestly, the way Mike Shinoda is going wouldn't shock me to hear a Lincoln Park rewrite into Therogun. They have a new, they have a woman. A singer, yeah. Oh, really? Scientologist, who supported... Look, we don't need to know. Can you sing?

I don't want to all the gossip. I don't want to hear about it, Dave Mustaine, about how much you love Scientology. Yeah. Yeah. New drummer for Rush. I don't want to know anything about this person. Yeah.

Can she play the hits? Hey, sorry, Dave. So you've been Thayer-gunning all over the play. Everybody getting, you know, tempted. Yeah. to hurt myself to hurt my private part. That's like the first thing you're like, huh, no.

If you put it on full and put it on the floor, it probably zip around, right? Oh yeah, we should race them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll bring over my Theriga next week. See if they go off any jumps. Yeah. Oh, yeah, because if you did,

if you got it, go and fast up. Oh, you can get her off a jump for sure. Do you have to charge it? I haven't charged mine once in months. Oh, not that often. Not that often, no. I don't use it often. No, me neither.

Liar. Well, no, when I needed, I use it, but. But do you do a little extra? Maybe, like, wake up the thighs a little bit? I would say I use it five minutes a week. Okay. So not a ton. Yeah.

You? I got into a zone. Well, I don't, it's only if I'm sore, but I, for a while I got into a zone where I was using it before athletics as well, Dave. I don't know if you've tried that out. But now that you have hockey season, it actually helps to, like, do it before, too. So you do it before. then you go play, then the next day you're sore, you do it again.

What I do is if I have a game, I'm like, and I'm achy before, I'll stretch. And if I still hurt, then I gone. Okay, then you can. Now, what's the last stop? Ice, what do you do? I see hot? No, I do. I do take an ibuprofen at the start of every game.

Really? In that mode, hey? Yeah. Thankfully, I feel like I do the same thing whenever I have a drink. So I just, like, this is forward thinking. I know my head's going to hurt later. Yeah. And you're going home.

You're taking your ibuprofen. Biprofen, you're therogunning before me. This helps my hand. Exactly. Anyway, that's what's going on with my body. Love that. Today's question on Discord, what's going on with your body? Yeah, what's going on with your body?

Or what the hell's going on with your body. A little, um, on the Discord, there's a channel for overheards and there's a channel for bumper stumper. Some people are putting their bumper dumpers in the overheards. It's a chaos. Can I say, if you have an overheard? mail it in because you know what

I'm running out so don't put them on the goddamn Discord where I can't use them send them SBY at Maximify.org I can't stress this enough how many I need

I need these very badly you'll find out later in the episode how low we're I think I've grabbed the last good three and we're taping two episodes next week uh oh

send them in yeah send them in it's the right thing to do yeah what's going on with you um I had put it off for a while, but I saw at home the movie 28 years later.

Are you a fan of this franchise? Don't ask John, he's not a movie guy. He doesn't like movies. Is that the third one? Yeah. Because there's 28 days later, 29 days? 28 weeks later. Oh, and now it's years.

Yeah. They skip months? They never did months? Yes, they didn't do months. Did they do fortnights? Yep, they did a Fortnite dance. Yeah. I just did one.

It was really good. Brought the house. That was good. It's, uh, if you've never heard of the series. If you've never heard of the series, just let me tell you. Very, uh, very song heavy episodes. Oh, yeah. We like to crack up the hit.

Yeah, why not? Um, uh, but if you don't know it, it's, it's like a zombie movie movie. The only difference being that the zombies run. Yeah, it's like a zombie movie, but it's a zombie movie. It's a zombie movie. But it was the, that was the revolutionary thing is they run. They're infected with rage. Yeah.

And they, and then, spoiler alert coming. If you don't want to get any spoilers about it, stop listening, Yow. Jog ahead, 10 minutes. 10 minutes, guys. Wow. By the way, you're spoiling this for John and me and we'll allow it. Okay. Thank you.

La, la, la, la. So the thing that you find out at the end of the first one is that it's only happening They just wanted attention. They were running around and not watching where they're going. That's why they ended up so gross. It's exclusively on pool decks and they were not looking where they were going. They were said very specifically, no running, no horseback. No raging.

But the first one, great. So it was only happening in England. And they, and that was the reveal that it wasn't worldwide. But not even Scotland? Uh, no, what are the whales? So they make it through to Wales? Whatever's the main chunk. That's the, and then they get,

Scotland and Wales are on the main chunk. Yeah. Everybody gets, they get sequestered. So nobody else in the world can come. Nobody can go. Everybody is in Rageville, Rageville, Tennessee is what they nicknamed it. Did Ireland unite during this time?

Yep. Well, that's why Scotland got out of the Brexit. They were like, you know what? We're, uh, we're voting to stay away from the rage guys. We want. Good luck. Yeah, exactly. So, then the second one.

And sometimes a drop of blood goes down into your eyeball and it's, I think that works, right? Doesn't that? That happens in the first one. Oh, by the way, I'm spoiling in the first one. The first one, Hylian Murphy wakes up in a hospital. He has no idea what. The first one rules. The second one's not bad.

I've only seen the first one. The second one's not bad. The third, though, I got to say, done with zombie movies. I'm finished. Some people across the board. Yeah. was that bad, you're like, I'm not... No, it wasn't that it was bad.

I'm just like, this is the same thing they do in every single movie. It's like the group is, they're just living like medieval people and they've got a compound and they've figured out how to... I hear you see dicks in this one. Yeah, and one of those dudes, he's got a lot like a donkey dick. It's crazy. It's so distracting. Because he's running and it's falling around all. Do you think it's like a prosthetic?

No, this guy, this guy's... And they, that's the thing in the future. of these zombies, some of them have evolved. So there's alpha zombies that know they think things and his donkey dick and alpha? He might be the alpha of the alfels, truly. No kidding, yeah. But yeah, I'm done.

Is he present himself outwardly as a jock? He looks like Jasonamoa. It's not Jason Momoa, but they definitely cast him as a Jason Momoa type. Okay. Yeah. But yeah, this is, bring me something new, zombie movies. Give me a fresh. Oh, here's the thing that

I've never seen a zombie movie before. One of the rage zombies is pregnant and gives birth to a regular person. So that's a new... I've seen ones where there's a pregnant woman that gives birth to a zombie baby. Oh, yeah. And gross. Do they then devour it? No, they take away the baby.

And then as soon as the... Wait, who takes away the baby? The powers the bee. There's sort of a child welfare. The neighbor's report to child service. But, yeah, it's not that it didn't have any twists in it that I've never seen before, just done with the genre. Although this was the weird thing that happened at the end. The very end, the movie's done basically.

And then there's a scene where the main character runs into a gang of zombie killing guys, and they kill a bunch of zombies. And that's the end of the movie. So it's like, were you just setting it up for a sequel? But all the guys are dressed like disgraced, DJ. Jimmy Saville. Oh, God. And so it's like one of those things like, well, you could have easily not had that. How many British pederasts are you going to mention?

Prince Andrew shows up. But yeah, it's really weird. I like read the reason why it wasn't satisfying to me. I was like, there's no reason these guys should all be dressed like Jimmy Saville. But what a way to end the movie with a big question where I'm like, what? The end. You're like, my big takeaways were one guy had a huge donkey dick. And all these guys looked like Jimmy Saville for an unexplained reason.

Yeah, I don't think you need a takeaway in a zombie movie. Yeah, but it took away confusion. What, uh, you're done, you say you're done with zombie movies. Do you believe yourself when you say that? Yeah, because I think this is the first one I've seen. Like, people were like, oh, I'm watching The Last of Us. Nope. Like, I'm out on the, I was out for a long time on The Walking Dead.

And then any zombie movie I see, it's always in, there's a compound or people are cross, you know, coming across zombies for the first time. Those are the two versions of zombie movies. Right. How do I know you're not a zombie? I'm right. I'm running. I'm running.

You've seen all the other zombie movies. They walk. Yeah. I'm sprinting. I like it. That would be good if you had to negotiate with a zombie. Well, there is that sort of. a thing of like, oh, he's bitten.

I'm fine. I'm not bitten. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think in the, in 28 days later, that's when he gets to the drop of zombie blood in his eye. And within seconds, he's a zombie. Yeah, it takes seconds in this movie for that to happen. And then you don't get that thing of like, no, I'll be fine for a few hours, just let me. Right, right.

I kind of don't understand what goes on. If there's eating the people, I don't, that's a part that I didn't really, wasn't clear if they're just eating the whole people or if they're just biting them to get affected and then running away into like an insane person. Not an insane person A zombie running person I'm really freaked out by this pregnant zombie

But that's a weird thing While she's giving birth Very human The second the baby's out Back to crazy again Well I mean I don't know if you've witnessed many labors They're pretty zombieish

I'm sorry Hey we're all free You know I join us on the Discord Tell us what your grossest thing is But just like is she getting the proper diet Like Is she reading what to expect when you're expecting she's taking like the vitamin

Is there a zombie doula I'm back I like that I'm back into zombie movies again That's the twist I could get me My zombie dula starring Amy Poller

Does she get a shot of oxytocin Is she going to encapsulate her placenta What's happening here? Exactly What is the baby's breach So there's all sorts of things you could go wrong Yeah No baby's happy and healthy

Lives in the compound Did they have to do a Z section Zombie Yeah, I mean, like, and of course, like, I feel like Sean of the Dead was the end of, that was the last word in zombie movies, as far as I'm concerned. Great movie. Great movie. Fantastic. Edward, you're right?

Yep. He's got a new Running Man movie coming out this year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Starring zombies. Well, Running Man was the original was Arnold Swartz. Yeah, probably. Yeah. Man, oh, man.

If I had to guess. Yeah. Oh, you know what? All you Schwarzenegger heads out there. If you go. Had to guess it's Arnie. Just go ahead, though. Um, uh, do you guys want to maybe move on some overheards?

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And we always like to start with the guest. John, do you haven't overheard? I do. This was one in which I was sort of an active participant, but I have, we talked about I wrote a book. And so I have... What's it called? Curling Rocks?

Chronicles of the Roaring Game. And what's the Dewey Decimal number? That's a great question. It's in the 900s because it's sports book. It's out October what? 14th. 14th. Yeah.

Will it be available in our library so I can just read it. It will be. You do the audiobook? No. I haven't done an audio book yet. I think they want maybe to see if it's going to sell enough copies or something. I got Don Cherry to read it. He's literate, right?

He's just saying baby after every sentence. He's the guy I think of the most with curling. I just think it would be, you know, you'd be able to sell some more copies. Oh, sure. Jerry. Yeah, great point. Great point. But yeah, so my, I have two nephews.

They are eight and six. And sometimes I will get like a random face time from them, uh, you know, just they're thinking about me. Something comes up. Usually it's like video game related or they have to ask me a question. So I'm just like going about my day, in the middle of the day. I get a FaceTime from my sister's phone number.

So I assume it's probably my nephews. Actually, it might have been my parents. I think they were with my parents at the time. So I answer the phone. You get the, you know, close up of your nephew's face. Yeah. Hold the phone right at their face. And they said, Uncle Johnny, uh, I heard you wrote a book.

And I said, yes. And they said, a book about curling and I said yeah and they said you should have written a book about Spider-Man he's not wrong and then it was sort of like and then I kind of said like

yeah I probably should have and then it was sort of like okay bye oh man 50 facts about Spider-Man oh who doesn't buy that book that feels like a scholastic purchase oh big time yeah time yeah what's your like big scholastic purchase oh I remember I got in trouble once

because my, I had, I had showed my parents, because they did the book fair at my school, this plastic book fair. And, uh, my parents gave me like $15, but they knew that I wanted to buy about $13 worth of books. Fifteen bucks. You were a baller. I was bawling. I know, balling. And then I had $2 left and there was a Jurassic Park book that was $2.25 and I borrowed a quarter from someone to buy it.

And then I remember my parents were mad because they were like, well, we were expecting you to bring $2 change home. I had $2, and there was a Jurassic Park book. You've ruined us. And your credit score is going to take a hit because you borrowed a quarter. So that was a big one I remember. And I also loved the horrible histories. I don't know if either. That might have been past both of your times, but it was.

Oh, yeah. They were history. They were like a chapter book style. They had illustrations in them. And then it was basically like the gross stuff about various periods. or locations in history. There was like horrible histories, the dark ages.

Then there would be chapters about like what apothecrises would think healed people. Oh, they would describe like what happened when you got the black plague in gross detail. And that was a later era. I loved all the horrible histories. Have you now Graham's just going to, I'll just let him finish writing the longest text of all time. No, no, sorry.

I was looking for my overheard. I'm sorry, you guys. but now in my neighborhood there's a lot of little libraries yeah oh yeah it's like uh take a book leave a book take a book leave a book there's some Dave famously when you go to a book library a little free library I always say oh no wait what do you wear whatever whoever's house is oh yeah I judge the the homeowner because they're the one who put up the little library but they're attracting like a lot of like wrestling biographies or Penn

Follett books. Yeah, there was one Oh, there's one of it was all James Patterson. Yep. Um, but I there's someone, I believe, self published a book and has placed it in all the neighborhood. Smart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's called curling rock. It's by Jay

Colton. And there's also this Spider-Man one. They can't keep it on the shelf. Um, do your, Does your whole family curl? No, no, I got into it separate of my family. My mom curls now. She took it up about a decade ago.

So she plays in a couple leagues. But yeah, I'm sort of the- It is weird that you didn't write a Spider-Man book because the whole family. Yes, they're definitely into Spider-Man. Yeah, 100%. Dave, do you haven't ever heard? Yeah, this is at the grocery store. I was checking out and I saw someone checking out at the next register.

and they were talking to the person, the checkout person, cashier, I think I want to say. And I guess they had said something about how expensive groceries are. And then the cashier was a young guy and he said, yeah, I heard this joke. I must be getting stronger. Now I can carry $100 of groceries with one finger. Nice. And the person checking out went, oh, good. Don't want to engage too much here.

Where do you hear that joke? That's what I... That's a grandpa or uncle joke. Yeah, you think so. Yeah, that's traded on Facebook. Yeah. Like, one of my uncles said, like, if you got whiskey, it'd be two fingers in the bottom of a barrel. Was like a measurement.

Anyways, Uncle jokes. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, the one I remember, like, if you went to your friend's house and you knocked on their door and their dad opened the door, he'd be like, I already gave it the office. office. Yeah, that's a classic. And it was so, I didn't get it at the time.

Yeah. Because as a kid, you would need to know that people come, charities come to the door. Yeah. And charities also come to the office. Yeah. And now it's still like buy a kid's cookies or whatever. It still would be at the office. Like, yeah.

But yeah, there's a fun. I don't need to go. It's head office directly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Leave me alone. I donated a corn patch. Leave me alone. Yeah, you just leave a cookie box on like a stick out front of it.

It's fine. Don't go away. I already done did it. Yeah. What's up with you? Overheard. Now, people who listen to the podcast may not know, but we release amazing Boko, bonus content, if you're a member of maximum fun.

And one thing that we do quite a quite a. bit is hot topics. Yeah. So I wanted a peek behind the curtain with this hot topic was just because the subject of the headline, I chuckled so much. And it was a headline about, I was trying to get the exact headline, but it won't come out. It was about a guy who won the lottery and partied too hard for two months.

Like, you know, sure, right? Yeah, what country was he in? America. Oh, okay. Yeah. That seems Australian. It does seem Australian. Also, American, you know, like, if you did a drinking World Cup, great idea, by the way, who would be the, you feel like it might be Australia or Scotland?

Yeah. I do feel like every country has that. Yeah. Every country has a severe enough problem. Well, we're Russian, so, you know, we drink a lot. Yeah. We're Irish. You know, we drink a lot.

Oh, we're Italian. That's true. It is like, because Canadians think they drink a lot. But I don't know that we do on a world scale. Yeah, I wouldn't think on a world scale. I think it's really, yeah, you're right, Dave. The only thing that really changes is the liquor in question. Yeah.

You know, an Italian, you might think, oh, they just drink a lot of wine. Yeah, Kianti. Kianti. Ushare. Irish beer, Russia vodka. In Greece, they're pounding the Uzo. Yeah, they're all just fucked on Uzo in Greece. Cuba, they're drinking rum all the time.

Yeah, 100%. Yeah, Brazil, they're drinking the little capparinias. Nice. Well, give them another country. Netherlands. Oh, geez. They're drinking. I don't know what they're drinking,

but it's out of clogs, maybe. South Africa, something that fights malaria, right? Oh, sure. They're drinking vaccines. Quineineine. Yeah, there it is. Now, we also have overheard sent into us

by people all over the map. If you have one, send it into SPUI at maxifun.org, and I cannot stress enough. Do not put them on the Discord. Send them this way, please. We're going to be sundowning that Discord channel. This first one comes from Krista, from Minnesota. We were at the airport, and we heard a man loudly telling a story to someone.

The only part I caught was he put his hand on his thigh and said, Curse you, old man, winter. And then we laughed for two hours. You said this indoors? Like, at the airport? He's just indoors and the cursing. curse you old man winter i mean this was in

curse them yeah definitely this was in minnesota this is in minnesota yeah they don't like winter there um not a big winter town yeah yeah minneapolis well it's not one town it's two it's twins that's right that's right um oh were there zombie twins they have they done that yet that's good question they got them do that you're still you're still in until they do zombie twin movie i think that you should every time you see one of the zombies in the film you should have to do a

quick little bio like pop up video like this person used to be, this person has a twin who isn't a zombie. Now, I'm thinking zombie twins, one's regular one's zombie. That's good. That's good. But then they'd have to be fraternal, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Otherwise, it wouldn't make sense. Ew. Yeah, I like that you said that. And will you have to make them fraternity? Yeah. Isn't it disappointing when you find out someone has a twin? Yes. Well, no, but like, you find out they have a twin and then it's fraternal.

Yeah. Yeah. I just have a regular sibling. Yeah. 100%. I went to school with fraternal. They were fraternal, and they were boy girl. Ew.

Who even cares in that point? You're not even the same at all. No. They don't even use the word twin. That would be great if, like, in the Shining, they had fraternal boy girl twins. Come play with us. I don't want it. Get over here.

This next one comes from Krista Miller. I was out of... Wasn't she on the Drew Carey show? What is the name of the woman that's on the Drew Carey show? I want to say Krista Miller. Krista Miller. You don't think. Was she also on scrubs? Yeah, she was also on scrubs. Same. I don't want none of those. That's excellent. Thank you. Krista Miller. She was also on that. She's on shrinking. And isn't she sort of like famously a very mean person? I hadn't heard that. Yeah. I don't know. What? She dated Jerry on an episode of Seinfeld, I think. Yes. She put a, like a peach bit in her mouth. Sure. No, she dated George. She's like, looks they're not important. to me. There's a Krista with a K.

I was at the pharmacy today waiting for a prescription. Wait a minute. Don't we not give last names? I said K. I know, but Chrisita. Well, I said Krista Miller. Shit.

Krista M. So Graham right now is writing Krista an email to ask if you can use your last name so we can keep the Drew Carey. Because we loved that riff. We needed it.

This one comes from Chris, I am. Oh, isn't she famously mean? I was at the pharmacy today, waiting for prescription when I heard the pharmacist ask a man, which arm do you want their COVID shot in? To which the man confidently replied, the left. It lasts longer that way. Sure.

Yeah. So it feels like a stranger's doing it. I do it in the right. I've been sitting on my arm for the last 30 minutes, so put it in there. I used to do it. My first COVID shot I got in the left and it hurt so much. And I remembered, oh, I don't, I don't write with my right hand. I hardly need my right hand for that.

But I sleep on my left side. Yeah. Yeah. I hear you. Interesting fact about me. This one, last one comes from Casey Miller in Minnesota. It's an all. It's an all Miller, all Minnesota.

we have been temporary living with an extended or with extended family for the past few months and my four-year-old niece has been having a really great time living with the two kids especially my eight-year-old son he's been spending a lot of time with her helping to do video games, Lego, et cetera, about a week ago when we all sat down to eat, my niece insisted on sitting down next to my son

and when she got her way announced loudly to the table, I love Dean and my son did not know how to respond to this and ended up saying, I'm just eating. That is the best when a cousin idolizes an older cousin. I'm just eating.

Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I had that older cousin. I was like, she's so fucking cool. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We all had that.

Yeah, cousin Krista. For the Drew Carey show, kind of mean. famously mean. And what was her last name? Well, in addition, no, do you need to go? We're good.

We're good. We're good. Okay. Let's roll. In addition to overheards that are written, and we also accept your phone calls. If you want to call us, or send us a voice memo even. The voice memo way to do it is email your voice memo to SPY at maximum fun.org. You probably have a voice memo app on your phone. And call us, one, 844-779-631.

That's one. Ugh. SpyPod, one like these people have. Hi Dave Graham at all This is Allison from upstate New York And I have a Trader Joe's edition overheard I was listening to two employees Show each other pictures of their cats

Talking about said cats And one employee said to the other Yeah, when I got adopted her from her birth mom Or no, buy that dang it I was hoping it was going that way What I love about that one is Normally someone calls in And they screw it up

And they call back Well this was a voice memo She didn't have to send it That's true And she know what She never sent another So do you think she sent the wrong one Did she re-record it

But then sent the one that she screwed up? Do I have a theory on this? No, I do not. Okay. If you do, go on the Discord. Yeah, you'll get your own channel. Theory. Spy theories.

Uh, next one. Hey, Dave Graham and possible guest. How's it going? This is Nick in Phoenix, Arizona. Just voice memoing in an overseen of the bumper sticker variety. Uh, driving into work today, there was a truck. that had a bumper sticker that was like full size on the back window like from top to bottom one of those baby on board things but instead it said um no baby on board i only do anal

boy that didn't disappoint bumper stickers are really getting filthy yeah but i imagine putting that on your car. Yeah. That's crazy. It's weird, too, when you see somebody wearing a shirt that has swear words on it or like, as something. Like an adult.

You know, I get it. You're a teen or like even in college maybe, but yeah, you see like a 40 year old person that's like, uh, you know, I don't, uh, my couch pulls out, but I don't. See, that's okay. Because, you know, that's like an uncle. That's like an uncle phrase. I changed my whole theory on shirts. They're good.

Yeah. I was once, uh, uh, at Safeway, and there was a guy in the checkout line with a shirt in the back said, North American Pussy Crushers. In England, it's the Fanny Crushers. And here's your final phone call. This is a phone call. Hi, Dave Graham, Impossible Guest.

This is Dan from Indiana. I was at a convention this weekend and I was standing behind these two guys and they'd come in from Michigan and they're kind of not really paying attention to each other and one of the guys goes so

what trains do you want to take back and his friend looks up and goes I don't know, 2, 2? What are you talking about? Because I said, what train do you want to take back? Oh, I thought you were asking me What a train says I don't know

I'm like a little bit of a Imagine getting that question What does the train say? I don't know What does the train say Choo Choo Choo Choo Choochoochoo! It also says Chugga Chugga. Yeah, yeah

And does one of those Yep Well, that brings us to the end of this year episode What train do you want to take back? That's it. I mean

That is a good answer to that question anyway, the choo-choo-tray. Yeah, what train are you talking about? Yeah, we're going to get on that Choo-Train. The Money Train? The Mid-Nay Train? It's never coming back. Well, that brings us to the end of this here episode. John, thank you so much for being our guest. Guys, thank you so much.

Where can people find and order your book? Yes, it's called Curling Rocks, as we've mentioned many times throughout the episode. You can get it wherever you get your books. Oh, wasn't Curling Rock's the Thief Song to the Drew? Carey show. Curling rocks. Curling rocks. I hear he had quite the co-star who was unpleasant. True. That's what I've heard. That's just the rumor. I will yeah, sorry, I will do nothing. I will hope you order my book. Yeah, it's anywhere you get books. Obviously, I prefer if you support independent, but if that's not an

option, you can get at any bookstore in Canada. And then I believe in America, it comes out in February. Okay. So if you're listening to this in America, it'll be out then. But you can, if you're a real huge rockhead, you can still order it from Canada. You just have to pave shipping costs. Yeah. And tariffs.

And tariffs. And use spy code SPY at checkout. At checkout for no tariffs. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. We dropped the tariffs for you. Yeah. And thank you everybody out there for listening.

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