Stop Podcasting Yourself - Episode 945 - Charlie Demers

Episode Date: April 28, 2026

Comedian Charlie Demers returns to talk booksmaxxing, eye doctors, and live wrestling. And it's week 2 of MaxFunDrive 2026! Please support the show at maximumfun.org/joinspypod. Follow us: Instagram, Facebook, Bluesky. Join our Discord.

Hi, he's Dave Shumka. And he's Graham Clark. And together we host Stop Podcasting Yourself. Woo! Everybody and welcome to episode number 945 of Stop Podcasts Yourself. My name is Graham Clark. And with me as always is a man who is thrilled, absolutely over the moon. That it's Max Fun Drive time, Dave Shumka.

Oh, this is my favorite drive of the year. Well, except for the week where I would just watch Drive. Yeah, and I would also go on a country drive. Oh, my God, yeah. And I listened to Drive Shaft, the fake Oasis band from the TV show Lost. Wow. Drive Shaft? It was the guy who was a minion.

No. A Hobbit. That would be very funny if the last also had a minion. Just screwing around. And he was in a band called Drive Chef with his brother and they were like feuding. They were having a row. Okay. And their song was,

You all, everybody. That sounds like it does sound like a band made up. by a show. Yeah, it was. It was made up by OAS the OASIS showrunners

on Lost. And here for the second week of Max Fun Drive, one of our all-time favorites, one of the best guests uncontested.

He has a book out now. He has a book coming out now. We'll talk all about it. It's Charlie DeMeres. Oh, thank you very much. Now watch this drive.

What a good word. Yeah. For people, People who don't know, and why would you, the Max Fund Drive is the one time of year. We take two weeks and ask you to support the show by going to maximum fun.org slash join or this year brand new, maximum fun.org slash join spy pod. You can send money or jewels. Yep.

For the first year, ever you're able to send in jewels. You're fun maxing. Yes, we are fun maxing. We're a clifical of podcasting. He probably has a podcast. Yeah. These boys have. hammered their jaws for these, for this two weeks.

I've been mewing up a storm. Yeah, yeah. I monged my way over here. I've been narrowing my penis shaft. Why'd you do that? I got it stuck on a live. Just one of those alligator clips. Yeah.

You wear it for five hours a day. I was at a show a week ago and somebody on the show mentioned a sexual kink called sounding. Yeah. Have you heard of it? I've heard of it for decades. This was brand new. Have you heard of it?

What's sounding? It's when you stick something in the urethra. Yeah. You, boo, I've got reverse sounding. That's my king. Some of you guys have been, haven't been reading Savage Love for long enough. And it shows.

Yeah. Anyways, I'm off the sounding trade. Yeah. Yeah. I thought, I was on it as long as I didn't know what it was. I found out. Oh, yeah. I never thought I'd say this, but can we talk more about your foot fetish?

We mentioned a few weeks ago on the podcast. My kink is naked boobs. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Classic kink. I'm freaky like that. Classic kink. So, Charlie.

Yes. Do we want to get to know us? Yes. Get to know us. Charlie. Yes. You are a comedian. You are a writer.

I am. You are hilarious by it guys. You're an actor. Thank you. I am an actor. What are you acting at? I am a voice actor. Oh, yeah.

I think it's fair to call me a voice actor. Yeah, yeah. I got the, I think I've got double digit, um, uh, body count. Yeah, I got a double digit body count. I, uh, I got double digit IMDB, um, oh, yeah, uh, credits at this point. Like, uh, they're stacking. And it's, uh, the one that's coming out or has it already come out of Crave, the second season? Uh, the second season?

Uh, the second season. Uh, the second. The second season will be out this summer of Super Team Canada. So check that out. And then if you haven't, if you're not ready for season two, then guess what? Go get ready by watching season one. It's just that easy. Super Team Canada, they call it.

Literally that easy. Super Team Canada, they call it. It's what I call it too. It's the only name the show has. But what's fun about, well, what's extra fun about season two for me is that I got to write two episodes of the show. You did? Yeah, I did. Jesus Christ.

You're all over. Yeah. So I got to, yeah, it's a fun little, there's a joke about, and, you know, sometimes you write something, you're like, well, this will never make it. Yeah. This whole sounding thing. I'll see. It's even mixed it into the show.

But, and this is probably, I'm probably violating all kinds of, so I won't get into the details, but when you hear a joke, this, see, this. coming season about someone's grandfather's testicles and M.C. Escher. That's me. I wrote that joke. Yeah. And that went straight from draft one through revisions into the recording. Nice.

Yeah. So where do you get your ideas? Two places. The art books and. My grandpa's testicle You might be looking at your grandfather Let me put it this way If you're going to think about MCSher

And think about how symmetrical things are You might be looking at your grandfather's testicles If you're in a business office and you have one of those silver balls And it's hitting back and forth You might be looking at your grandfather's testicles If you're looking at a pair of clam diggers And worrying about knee health You might be looking at your grandfather's testicles.

That's as good as any catchphrase. Oh, yeah. So you wrote a book that already came out, humorous essays about Canada. Yeah, so the book is called the A-Team. E-H. Yeah, that's the, and I'm pretty sure I got that job because of Super Team Canada.

Because on Super Team Canada, I play a character called Poutine. Yeah. And I believe we've talked about Putin in this room on this podcast, I think. Poutine, the character? No, the three of us have talked about

Poutine, the substance. Oh, the substance. From the movie the substance. And when they made the substance in Canada, they had to change a few things. Yeah. In order to get a tax break. Yeah, so she had to eat protein.

It was less a social commentary when they did that. Instead of taking the... Instead of turning... Instead of... ...Demimor, it was Luby Goy. Canada's Demi Moore? Yeah.

Well, in Canada, the phrase Demi Moore literally means half a more. And I'd say that's about mathematically. Yeah. The star power of a Lubigoy is about half a Demi Moore. Lubigoi, for people who don't know, was part of a sketch comedy... team. Royal Canadian Air Force.

She held my baby daughter once. Really? I think so, yes. I don't think I've ever gotten that close to a cast member. I don't, I've never met Roger Abbott. I don't think I've met Lou. Boy, when I was a kid and I heard them announce that Roger Rabbit was in the cast. So my dad had to be like, no, it's Roger Abbott.

This was on the radio show. I hope his wife makes a cameo. Humber, Humber. Jessica Abbott. All these kids are there. CBC tune porn kinks. We're just ramming animation cells up their urethrists. You have you got to curl up, really, small.

Yeah, this is a trading card I have. It went up, Stan Lee's urethra. Yeah. When you say small, what does your urethra look like? Yeah, mine is about pen size. I call mine the wind sack. I used to have a joke of my act about how it looked like. I talked about how some guy looked like he had a really cool dick.

I remember that line. Like it had the lights, like the cars and the fast and the period. But mine looks like Vin Diesel if he had a coin slot on top of his head to put coins. Oh, pretty good. So the A team is, it's a book, it's what's technically known as a lexicon, which is like a book of short entries about words and phrases. And like, so it's a book, it's a book of Canadianisms. Oh. And so it's.

Are you going to lexicon this year? Setting up a booth? Yeah. Well, you know, I'm crazy about Lexi. Yeah. Lex Luthor's going to be there this year. Driving a very souped up Lexus. Oh,

I feel like those are the only Lex things. That's two more than I had handy. Lex just forget about it. But so I wrote that. That was written on a kind of crazy compressed timeline. Bender, a big cocaine bender with... It was basically a big poutine bender. But it was written in like about a...

six weeks last spring summer. That's amazing. But it was, it was very like, it worked all the debaters muscles for, because these are all these like short entries. And so they each had to be like, there were long ones, medium ones, short ones.

And the long ones were 610 words and the short ones were 145 words. And the medium ones were 310 words. My wife says the short ones are just as good as the long ones. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe even better. You know, maybe even better. Too big.

The audits are kind of very long. Yeah, too long. But, you know, as I was writing them, I was like, okay, this is just, because when we write the debaters' rants, the opening up, which you, you see everybody's. Yeah. When they get sent out. Yeah. And it's like, we have to hit a very specific word count. It has to get across a certain number of ideas, a certain amount of information, and it's got to be funny.

Yeah. And so as I was writing these things, it was like, oh, this is just, this is just debaters writing. Yeah. So it felt very good. It felt very. So, yeah, anybody who's remotely interested in Canada, I think, will enjoy. I think our listeners adore you. Yeah.

And a lot of them don't, a lot of them are perplexed at the idea of Canada. They love what we talk about a weird Canadian thing. Yeah. And to them, it's all weird. So the things, some examples in the lexicon. Oh, like, there's all, so hanging behind you right now is a cherry blossom box. Yeah. There's an entry on cherry blossoms, which has disambiguation between actual cherry blossoms,

which are currently filling our streets here in the, and your sinuses. And my sinuses. And, but also the, um, tamescent candy by the same name. There's a, uh, also an entry on bridge mixture. I don't want you to get the idea that it's all yellow candies. Yellow boxed candies. Yellow boxed candies.

But there's entries on all the big Canadian cities. There's entries on various kind of big Canadian TV shows. Tendencies like for us to say grade one, grade two, grade three instead of first grade, second grade, third grade.

Although more on more I hear, Canadians using the American style. Yes, definitely. I don't correct my kids because I don't think it, it doesn't feel like, uh, important. So do they say like first? Yeah, they'll say first grade. Yeah. Yeah. And I do fight Josephine on it and she's like, oh. And it's this big like kind of like, I'm in this house. We say grade one. There are things that I'm leaving that I'm like, uh, that I do feel like we have to, um, you know, protect our culture with. But it's. It's not like the British system where, like, you're in fifth form when you're like 18 or whatever. Who fucking knows?

Yeah. I did my A levels and I weighed 14 stone. The stone system is outrageous. I have no idea what it means. But the grades line up exactly with the American ones in grade 13. Yeah. Or 13th grade is where, as the cool kids are calling. 15th grade, yeah.

There's an entry on ketchup chips. Oh, yes. There's an entry on... In grade 13 in capacity. back is Seijep chips. Is that any good? That was really good. Yeah, I liked it.

Ketchup chips, I mean, when I was a kid, I'd eat any chip. But I don't think ketchup chip was in my top three chips. No? No, I don't think so. It's funny. It was the Canadian chip. It was. In the last 10 years, all dressed is our...

That's our identity now. Yeah. Yeah. And people, there's always a bit of a debate that existentially or I guess metaphysically about all dressed as. as to whether all dressed is its own flavor, which is what I think all dressed is. Yeah. But then you meet people who go, no, no, all dress is like all the flavors mixed, like as though it's an everything bagel of a chip.

Which is, I think that's not. Yeah, it's not. That doesn't scan. It's not doesn't. Dill and ketchup. Yes, exactly. It's like pretty barbecue and vinegar heavy. Yeah.

Yeah. It's really put this thousand island dressing in the sun. Um, right? Yeah. What, yeah, how would you describe it? Uh,

I mean, yeah, it does taste kind of barbecue and, but not, vinegar forward, definitely. Yeah. It's a,

but it's not as, not as much as like a salt and vinegar. No, no, that's true. Um, no, I mean,

uh, I mean, there's so many chips to do from now, you know? Oh, yeah. But if I had to say, what was the most Canadian chip,

I would say ketchup. That would be like, that was a thing growing up and I knew people that my cousin would come over from Northern Ireland. They went nuts for ketchup chips. And this is from Britain where they have like a lot of chip varieties. But what's crazy to me is like...

Not Britain, the UK. They don't really put it on fries over there, right? Like ketchup doesn't really... Like that's what I've never understood about this. How did the states never arrive at ketchup chips? Yeah, right. Like they're putting ketchup on all their other... It's there anyway.

It's there anyway. I remember when I, I'm Ukrainian, thank you. Yay. And we, but. Loobogoy, probably. Yeah, Loubo-Go. Absolutely. 100%.

We didn't, we weren't that Ukrainian growing up. I didn't have a parogi until. You never lubed a gore. I looped my chair in college. I didn't have a parogi until I got to college. Oh, really? And when someone explained to me what. Baroque was.

They're like, oh, it's just, you know, potato and cheese. And I was like, oh, yeah, so you dip it in ketchup. And they're like, no, absolutely not. Yeah. But I do. Yeah. I did. I don't, personally, I don't see anything wrong with that.

As you say that right now. Yeah. Yeah. That's just your condiment kink. Yeah. Yeah. He's a ketchup. He's a chipper.

He's a total chipper. What's the, what's the, number on a Heinz? 57. Yeah, he's all, he totally 57 those grogies. I'm a chepericabra. I put ketchup on a goat. But yeah, I think people, I think people would like it.

It's a kind of, it's a mix of sort of Canadian history and pop culture and then just Canadian language, a little bit of Canadian, uh, I mean, not geography in the dry sense, but you'll learn a little bit about the sort of size and shape. I don't know. I don't think you're going to learn about the size or maybe not even the shape. Saskatchewan. Easy shape to write about. Do you talk about Saskatchewan.

Oh, good. We'd be remiss. Yeah, I just lost a couple of sales there. But, no, I think it's worth checking out. I think people will enjoy it. Well, our listeners are fascinated. I mean, we have a big. Canadian listenership, but also a big foreign listenership.

And they love it when we do bonus episodes about like the Heritage Minutes and Heritage Minutes is one of the entries. Yeah, great. There's a whole entry on Heritage Minutes. I went on a podcast, uh, called Long Distance, A Bit Weird with Michael Belazzo and, uh, and uh, Seuss Camper. And I, they describe a Canadian thing to her. She describes it a British thing to him.

Oh, wow. And so I was on and I explained, uh, Canadian Heritage Minutes. Yeah. Because that's not a thing. That format of thing, as far as I know, didn't exist anywhere else in the world. It wasn't something that we were, like, picked up from somewhere else. And I thought, like, before I revisited them, I thought they were five-minute videos. I didn't realize they were a minute.

No, they're a minute. The other thing is, like, there were periods of, like, so this is, like, our childhood. Like, so. And by the way, listeners, if you support maximum fun, you can go to our bonus content and listen to those episodes. Oh, yeah, good call. Good call. And really those bonus episodes are kind of a piece of Canadian history. It's true.

There might be a heritage minute about them one day. But the podcast? You totally like Dave coming down the stairs with a peach basket. Yeah. We're both wearing buckskin outfits. Buckskin headphones. Oh, but I need those headphones back. We're telegraphing back and forth.

Acknowledge, Dave. knowledge. Oh, you were doing the Halifax Explosion, not Marconi. You both know a Kana podcast Award. This is just gibberish.

You may want to read the book before listening to this part. Before you smell the toes. And invent Superman. And go ahead and cover up a penis in medical school. But when we were kids, They were making like 10 of these a year.

Oh, yeah. And then there was a period where there was like they made one for eight years. And then, and so now they're making them slightly more. But it's a whole, I know you're not raising money for anybody else this week. So people can save their donor dollars for another time. But it's a, it's a charity called Historica. Oh, really? And they still make them.

Well, I remember there was one that they made a movie. Yes. About the Avro Arrow Starring Dan Aykroyd. That's right. The Aero Arrow Arrow was a like Cold War Canadian plane project. Yeah, there was like scuppered. Yeah.

Like they built it, but it never flew. And then they just used clips from this movie they made to make it into a Heritage Minute. That was somebody who was down to the wire. It was the invention of Dan Aykroyd. Heritage Minute. Well, honestly, they should do one about his alien vodka. Absolutely. Or just Dan Aykroyd in general. What a story in career. What about the guy with his aunt that he had created Superman?

When I rewatched it, I was like, she's just being a real bitch. She's just everything he says. She's like, no. Yeah, get on the train. Get off. Get out of here. No, nobody wants to listen to this. And that guy was on. You can't do that on television. Oh, yeah, he was. Oh, nice. Yeah. And the dog house one, I think. Or, was he on Doghouse on YTV?

Maybe a lot of that. What was Dog House? That was Jay Barrow show was on that too, wasn't he? Am I maybe making a cocktail of different shows? You're maybe making a cocktail of different shows. What was Dog House, though? I know that from on YTV they had the secret life of Alex Mac, and Alex Mac will be at Lexico's.

Yes. Yes. Dog House was almost Beethoven Avant La Letre, I want to say. There was Doghouse Jay Baruchel And Go I don't know

It's not coming up for me There was a show where Jay Baruchel Was the youngest kid But maybe that wasn't doghouse I remembered him first as the Co-host of Popular Mechanics for Kids With Alicia Cuthbert That's right

Oh really That's a part of our heritage That is a part of our heritage I was not aware of him until the Seth Rogen. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, wow.

Yeah. And now he's Mr. Canada. That's his, yeah. He did a big Olympic commercial. Oh, yeah, that's right. We were as a coach. He was coaching all the players and people cheering for Canada.

Yeah. And somebody who did well with her phone plan or something like that. That's right. Once you get that Rogers money, you know what I mean? Are you talking about the lady now? Yeah. From her phone plan? I'm just wondering.

He, so his, yeah, early TV was, Are You Afraid of the Dark? My hometown, popular mechanics for kids, and the worst witch. Oh, no. Is she doing okay? Okay, no, so maybe I'm inventing the dog house. I wonder if people know that in the States that Jay Berkshill is like Mr. Canada up here. Well, he always, like his, to my knowledge, authentic, uh, Canadian flag tattoo was always visible in the Seth.

Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, it's, you know, we love them. We wish them the best. Absolutely. Have you ever met him? No, I'd like to. I would like to too.

Yeah. Yeah. Let's get them on. Yeah. Let's get her to do a voice on the show. This show. Like to shake the hands that maybe weren't on doghouse. Yeah.

Which may or may not be a show. That I have invented in my mind. I'm looking at YTV. Doghouse TV. No, Dog House YTV, right? Yeah. And for any non-Canadians, YTV was sort of our youth television. Nickelodeon, yeah. Doghouse is a Canadian comedy television broadcast in the 90 to 91 season.

Okay. Perfect YTV. That's me. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even know if we even had YTV at that point. Like, that's early. Oh, is it?

Okay. It was about a St. Bernard. Yeah. So during a car accident, a police detective's mind is swapped with the mind of Digby, his St. Bernard dog. Classic. Helen Underwood, Shelley Peterson, the officer's widowed sister-in-law, takes custody of Digby. Seems unnecessarily circuitous. Are you a widowed your sister-in-law?

She's widowed in a separate death? That seems... Same car crash. They both exist in this dog's mind, and he's constantly fighting. Now inhabiting Digby's body, the detective is able to talk with the family. Oh, yeah. Does he solve crimes? You got to assume.

He was a police guy, wasn't he? Let's get him on the case of was he working with Jake Harris shall or not. Former Ontario Premier David Peterson, whose wife portrayed series character Helen Underwood, appeared in a guest role on the... the series as a school janitor. I bet you kids were thrilled. Is that who I think it is? 25 episodes.

25 episodes. Okay. Making it the longest running Canadian program on. And there was a reunion in 2022 and to honor the reunion. The mayor signed a proclamation. Reminding people what the show was. To make March 1st, 2022 dog house. Day in Nanaimo.

In Ninoimo. Was it shot in Ninoimo? That's the only mention of Nanaimo in the whole article. I made a real mistake taking a sip of water before that

in a Naino fact. This is the most like trans cross Canada thing like Doghouse they reunited online for Dog House Day. Okay.

Their first appearance to together in over three decades to raise money for literacy, the Literacy Center, Vancouver Island. The reunion organized by Nutflakes. A community-run video store in a church basement in Saskatoon. What? What is happening? Anyway, check out Nutlikes at a church basement video store.

Okay. So I did not dream doghouse, but clearly everything associated with doghouse is a fever dream. And the reunion has like four paragraphs compared to the one paragraph about the premise of the show. Yeah, yeah. This is amazing. So I fit, okay, but if Jay Baruchel had been doghouse adjacent, that would have made this Wikipedia. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It would have been one of the biggest. Yeah. If Nutflakes is mentioned.

Yeah. Okay. Oh, man. Well, yeah. No, I never heard of that. Why is it called Nutflakes? Well, that's what? Like Netflix. Netflix.

Yeah, but also, what does it have to do with nuts? Or flakes. Yeah, I thought it was a serial. Joe. Yes. Yes. I think I was the last one to catch the Netflix. Nutflakes.

It's like some from Mad Magazine. Yeah. So you've written that book. You've also written you told us just before the show. A kid's book. Yeah. So I have like a little, like a very little kids picture book coming out in June. And the, was illustrated by Dorothy Lung.

Oh, I thought I was, I thought you're going to ask. I was going to offer to draw it. It's coming on in June. So I really need somebody. to illustrate this. I got some printer paper. Yeah. There's the weird stussy symbol that you draw is that part of the stories.

It's the cool ass. This is the cool ass. Three-dimensional house with the smoke coming out of the chimney. Well, the story is called cool ass finds it home. This couldn't be more perfect. It's about a dead detective. whose sister-in-law is widowed

also lost her husband separately in the town of Widow City Every street is dead Metz curve In the town of Widow's Peak Vancouver Island

Just outside in the nightmo Yep So the book is called I sure do And it is a little poem that I wrote for the kids, like just a kind of funny little poem when we were in Dublin a couple summers ago. While I was sort of walking, I was pushing Pascal's stroller, and I was talking with Josephine,

and we were just kind of doing a little sort of playing little kind of lovey word games. And I wrote this little poem for the kids. And when I got home, I was like, I think this is maybe there's a little book here. So I've worked on it and sent it around. And it's being published in June. That's awesome. Yeah. Your kids are nine years apart, eight years apart?

They're exactly nine years apart. Nine years almost to the day. Like Josephine is her birthday is three weeks before Pascal's birthday. And you're saying you were like, wrote this as like joking with both of them. How much do they like they haven't come? Like how often are there things that the. So you can all kind of agree on. So their relationship comedically is like, you know, in the movies where there's like a bully and the bully's got like a little helper who just repeats things the bully says.

Yeah. That's the two of them for comedy. Like she'll say something. She'll go, yeah, right, dad. And then he'll just go, yeah, right, dad. And he said it. He is on cloud nine. Like when he gets to repeat something funny that she just said, it's like he's over the moon.

And so it's, so, you know, there's, she's certainly getting jokes on levels that he's, that he's maybe not getting. But, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's fun. I mean, it's, it's like, it's, it's, it's not like having kids like a normal. width apart because then they're in the same zone and they're in the same kind of like but then there's it means that there's kind of levels you can

sort of play with and you can make a joke that you know that she's going to get on maybe two levels and he's just going to get on the one so I'm the youngest of four and there's a pretty big span right eight years yeah and like no one liked me but

but I'm closest with my brother who is the one who's eight years old. The oldest. Yeah. Don't tell my sister. No. They think we're so tight. Josephine has got, it's kind of the, they'll get the best of both worlds because she got to be an only child up until now.

Yeah. And when she moves out, he'll be an only child. And he'll get some of that sweet, sweet only child action. Sweet, sweet, only child action. The, I mean, the difference is she was a COVID only child, which was like the ultra only child. Yeah. Experience. So not fun.

Well, I think it was, in some ways, it was like, if you talk to some kids, her age about COVID, they don't remember it always how we think they would remember it. They're like, oh, yeah, I got to spend a bunch of time with my mom and dad. Mom and dad were always, it's like, I think the way it's weird, this isn't particularly funny, so maybe I'll try and steer us in a more kind of hot dogs. Those are delicious. But, like, so when he, I think the hardest thing for her, like, when he was born, like, she wanted a sibling for so long. Oh.

And then when she, when, when he was born. And did you make a mannequin? And they'll be like, this is, this will do until another kid comes along. This will be your, this is your little sister or brother, whatever you want. No, I said, I, I rattled an old VHS. I said, I had, look what I got from Nutflakes. I have put it on the TV. She's been watching old episodes of Doghouse.

I said, the only company you need is 25 best episodes of Canadian TV ever filmed. So when he was born, it was this thing of like, for a kid, her age, everything in life can be canceled. Like,

everything in life is totally contingent. That's how I feel like about a lot of comedians. Yeah. Do not get attached. But like. But Rob Schneider. School can disappear for like four months. Maybe Christmas is not going to happen.

Maybe your birthday is not going to happen. Maybe like all of these things. The only thing you will always have at all times is mom dad are here, like in her experience. Yeah. That's the, that's the one thing you're always going to have. You always have us. Maybe don't watch the show about widows.

Yeah. And then her brother's born. She's nine years old. And suddenly there's like a 45 minute period every night, at least, where it's like, you can't talk to mommy right now. She's putting your brother down. Like, yeah, yeah. And she's just like, what do you mean?

I can't talk to mommy. Like, what does that mean? Like, uh, do you know who I am? Check the list again. Yeah. Honestly,

you can't talk to them. And in some cases, that was also true. But, but it's, uh, so I think all of that was like, that was tough.

And, like, that was tough to sort of wrap her head around. But all the like, kind of the joking around, the playing, like, that stuff is,

uh, that stuff's pretty good. That's nice. And the book is called Funny Poem. The book is called Funny Kids. The book is called I Sure Do. I sure do. It comes from the first line of the, which is I sure do love you.

And this is the first line of the, and so I sure do is the name of the. And it is available for pre-order. And if you go see, you can, there's a few of the drawings. You'll see a few of the pages from the book. Dorothy has just done a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful job. This is one of these kids books where. I'll laugh and I'll cry You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll hurl

It's not like towards the end The kids are old and carrying you to bed Yeah I remember when I was a kid To be like, that's how it goes I got to drive She's going to drive cross town with a ladder Because I didn't

I don't trust her with a key And sneak in because I'm passed out drunk on the floor And so she'll pull me into my bed And she's taking those peach baskets back Oh that's so cute Yeah so it's it's it's it's that was been fun Um by this like It took a long time like this

So so the the A team literally We started talking about the book in May and it was for sale in November. May of last year. May of 2025. Oh, wow. It was on shelves.

Some places were selling it in late October. Wow. And the kid's book, which is like, you know, maybe 300 words long or something like that is, you know, it's been about,

it's like a process of like two years. Really? Yeah. I don't understand the publishing game. Well, I mean, I think with the kids stuff, it's like,

Because they have to, they find, um, because if, so I think if you're a writer, illustrator, that's one thing in the kids world. But like if you, if you write a kid's book,

you don't go, oh, here's a, here's a, here's a, here's a, like the publisher says, oh,

here's working at, this is who we think this would work with. And, um, and they did a beautiful job. Like, they, they really picked a,

a brilliant, uh, artist. Nice. So then it goes to the artist, and I think it takes, like, that part takes a long time. And you're like, come on, hurry up. My kids are getting old. What, um...

My son's just, uh, shaving in the car. He's like, Dad, I'm on a steak out. I can't, uh, I can't reach it. The car was such an 80s trope. I'm having an electric razor while you're driving. He's shelling people. Peanuts. His partners coming back with bad coffee.

It was always a guy who was like rumpled. He's shaving in the car on the way to the police station. I'm just remembering there was the movie, Catherine Zeta Jones's butt goes under the laser entrapment. There's a scene where she's staking out. She's staking someplace out and she's got an iced coffee and this is like 2000, 2001, the first ice coffee ever invented. Like, it was a brand new thing.

And she's in her car sticking out and she takes a sip of it, puts it on her dashboard, and then it like dissolves to hours later when she's only got a little bit of ice coffee left. Yeah. And I, like, now I watch it and I think that is a two-minute process. It's two minutes of coffee. It's one of the best, for my money, naked gun gags is where they're on a steakout. And they're eating pistachios. And then when he opens the door, there's like a mountain of pistachio shells.

And one of them is eating red pistachios. So they've got a lipstick. The new naked gun, was there like a gag about always being given coffee? Yeah, they were always carrying a cup of coffee. Have you seen the new naked gun? I have not seen it yet. There's, uh, I rewatched it with Sally because she didn't see it. And, uh, it's still funny on the second view.

Like the bits that I thought were funny caught me off guard and I thought it was funny again. I was so excited to take Margo to it because I was like, this is what I love to do is a kid, like being in a theater where it's like contagious laughter. Yeah. It was fine. Yeah. I liked it. I want to see it.

There's no reason I haven't seen it except that I just haven't. But I love that like super joke dance, like just the goofy. Yeah. Like I loved those when I was when I was little. I never liked big broad physical stuff when I was a kid. like, um, I mean, like activities, like, sports, camping. Yeah, yeah.

Um, like, like, I didn't love like big, you know, splatty kind of comedy in that, like, way, but I loved those kind of like, zany, super joke dense, just like kind of yeah, Mel Brooks, um, and then the Zuckerers, right? Zuckers. Yeah.

Um, uh, those, those naked gun movies. I thought they were so funny. So, and like, The first two, still hold up. The third one is kind of, doesn't really get there, but. Is that the one with Anna Nicole Smith? Yeah. Great.

Yeah. How many books is this now, Charlie? So I co-wrote a book with George Bowering. I usually don't count that one in the in the, you can do a half. So if you were counting that one as point five, this old, with the kids book, it brings it to 8.5. Wow. Yeah.

And these are. I mean, a kids book really should be a point five. Well, so that's fair enough. Then brings it down to eight. Eight. And we're only counting lexicons as books. And these are all published by Canadian publishers or by Publishers Claringhouse? Each of these is an independent Ed McMahon production.

Yeah, these are all published in Canada with North America. American rights. A couple of them were published independently by British publishers. Like they bought the rights and sold them in the UK. And I... Let's get into the rights. I sold Hungarian translation rights for something. But I don't know if it was ever...

A goat. Yeah. I don't know if it was ever translated. A lot of our listeners are in the Hungarian... Adjacent. I asked for it. They've had a big month, the Hungarians. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, they had a big good news election. Yeah. Yeah. Well, for you. For your side. Yeah. Yeah, I was talking to somebody that had written a book and felt like they really made it when somebody found that book in a thrift store. Oh, yeah.

I was like, oh, now you're a part of the book cycle. Like, it was like, got it, read it, what it, you know, gave it away. Literary compost. Have you ever, has anybody ever spotted one in the thriftar? Or the little libraries? Oh, I'm sure. Oh, yeah, yeah. I had, uh, somebody found it.

Actually, I was, I was performing one night on a, at a fundraiser. And, um, oh, yeah, I found my book in one of those little libraries. Oh, wow. Yeah, and I found, it was my first book, um, uh, uh, uh, which, like, sold almost nothing. And I was going into this fundraiser, and I knew they had an auction at this fundraiser. So I took the book from the little library and then the, and then auctioned the book. Oh, nice.

At the fundraiser, yeah. But, yeah, no, it's been. You go, you walk out. It's still, it's been put back in. Yeah. It's a, it's the funniest thing. Because when you go in, it really, it really. it always feels good if you go into a bookstore and your books on the show.

Oh, yeah, yeah. And then when you go into a bookstore, when you go into a used bookstore and your books on the shelf, it's a, it's a weirdly paradoxical feeling because you're like, yes. And then you're like, oh, but somebody let it go. Yeah, yeah. And then I feel like that's when you made it. Right, right. sold to people that aren't your immediate circle of people and people that have read the book and probably just, you know, read that, like a lot of books that I've just, I read them and then they immediately go out the door.

You, I went to your house over 10 years ago and you were building bookshelves and they were fall. And what is your book situation? It's not great. You may have stumbled into a marital kind of thing that's not going to. I'm not going to a widow my wife exactly, but put her in the same

the dating circumstances as the detective's sister-in-law. So maybe it would be best for us to move on or something. We've had a number of different, so we live in a different

townhouse unit in the same complex as the time you, which also is just like, just have you over in my house. I don't know why you're in a fight. Yeah, that's true. We only see each other. I've also never been to Graham's place. That's true. Well, okay. I don't have a very big bookcase at all. So that is all under control of my place. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's just say I've been bookmaxing and books maxing. Books maxing. Books maxing. Yeah. Books maxing, right? Yeah. Get that books magics.

That's true. Oh, that could be my blog. Yeah. Books maxing. Oh, this could be the star something big. By the time this comes out, Charlie will already be posting on his blog. What year is it, guys. But, yeah, so there's a lot of bookshelves at our house. And they do not hold all of the, what is needed. Because there's like, and I'm sure people have experience with bookshops like this, where it's like floor to ceiling, bookshelves, and then just piles of piles in there.

You just kind of, the person who works there knows this is where. that copy of whatever is. I saw that recently. Now, where is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it like that? It's a little bit like that. Charlie's got piles.

We're not... Oh, man. Get yourself to the doctor. We're not quite at, like, we're not at a fire hazard stage. Okay, yeah. Worried about your safety. Yeah, and the books aren't flammable.

No, no. I keep them under all my reels of old film. Yeah, sure. And remind me the temperature of which books burn? Oh, it's Fahrenheit. 29 stone. Put it in Kelvin. 29 stone.

I don't know what I weigh. It's like 15 stone. Is that big or little? I think a stone is like 14 pounds. It's 14 pounds, I think. Yeah. Does that pound sterling? Oh, yeah.

A pound sterling sounds like that. Knock off James Bond. I'm Pound Stirling. Ben-Tan, Tan, da, da, da, Tina Bono. It's the porn, James Bond. It's named Pound Sterling. My name is Stirling.

They don't have to change any of the... Poundstirling. I don't have to change any of the female character. No, exactly. Now, climb into my urethra. Yeah. I'm trying to think what I have, I have too many, I got too many clothes to fit in the clothes receptacles that I have. So there's kind of a bunch of clothes that just kind of migrates its way around the room.

Yep. And I've got, I put all my shorts in storage and then I get a little, oh, maybe the sun's coming out. And then we're putting corduroy away. Oh, put corduroy away too early. Oh, yeah. When is like the month that you make the switch? I mean, I'm done with Denham. and corduroy in May.

Okay. But I'm not necessarily bringing out shorts. But you're wearing like a cotton. You're moving to linens. I'm in my khakis. Everyone, you know, I'm swing dancing. Oh, yeah. You're hanging out with Missy and Mr.

Peter Elliott. Are you a denim, denim guy? Yeah, I wear denim. Yeah, okay. Yeah, you have. How many pairs of jeans? God, I think we counted it. I just don't, I don't throw away old jeans.

Yeah. So they were, I think we're into the, like, mid-teens. Oh, wow. I have three pairs of jeans. And I will wear them until they explode. I will wear them until the very last possible wear. I, the reason I have so many is I do repair them. Yeah, I have repaired a pair of jeans from last year, and they're holding in there.

They're doing okay. But I think I'm kind of just like, in the last couple of years, my body has changed. Yeah, there's hair where there was no hair before. So a lot of those jeans, they can go. But now, who wants my old repaired jeans? Put him in one of those book libraries. Just put a tag on it clean. Here's for Dave Chumka's first jeans.

He signed them. The crotch has got fabric glue all over. I promise that's what it is. Oh, is that what you're calling it these days? Yeah. How many pairs of jeans? You're not really a jeans guy. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I think that would be about what I've, I think there's, I think so.

I mean, I've maybe got sort of one pair of just awful, just, just, just some absolute dog crap cut of terrible genes that might get, like, put on in a, in a total disaster. Yeah. Emergency situation. Yeah. Where it's like, everything about it is completely dispeliorably. disposable. Yeah. Like,

that's so funny, because you wear, like, like, track suit. Yes, yeah. So it's like,

oh my God, oh, what are we going to wear? Oh, gee. Most people would be like, oh, yeah, it's a sweatsuit day.

No, but what I'm saying is if, if nothing else is clean, or if nothing else is like, like, or if, yeah, I don't know.

I, I really don't wear these, these, so every now and again, Kara will say, like, oh, can you empty out, why don't we empty out

some, because we have the same problem. Yeah. We don't have enough space for all the clothes. Yeah. There's not enough, like. On there's for you. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, we're only got two and we're still struggling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, yeah.

And Kara is the only member of our household who is a consistent size and shape. Right. Right. Yes. There are three people around her constantly changing. Yeah. And so you like, but I go, I go through stuff. There's, I would say now, there's,

and I was telling a story the other day about, so when we were at the city news list, which now, when you're telling this, it means that's a 17 year old story. Wow. And we had a clothing allowance. Yeah.

And, um, you know, it wasn't massive or anything like that, but I think it was like $1,500 or something. And, and I, you know, I couldn't be bothered the whole time.

I was like, oh, you know, you got this $1,500. Paul Bay had gone out within three weeks of us getting the seed that got like three, new suits cut and had a

beautiful pair of shoes Erica got a bunch of new clothes I think you got a suit yeah I got a couple of suits and a very very expensive pair of shoes I was like I still got this much left

but that show if I recall correctly you never saw your feet I know don't tell them I don't want sitting who's going after me the Quinton

Tarantino episodes when maybe sometimes in the streeters you could have possibly theoretically caught a glimpse. I don't think I ever wore them on the show. No. Forever,

the first time I ever wore them was at my brother's wedding because I was like, if I wear these things, which we did televise. That's right. It was a right-off. It's fine.

It's still a right-off. But, like, it was an item that I owned that I was like, I can't use it. It's too nice. I can't. It's, and then I finally I broke down. I'm like, okay, I'll wear these on

weddings, funerals, any kind of like big, kind of splashy thing. Involving my brother. All right. One down. You're going to get remarried or what?

Where are you coming back as a dog? Let me just wave these shoes at you. Make you feel like getting married again? But they would, you guys were kind of busting my chops because I wouldn't go out and do, I would not. And I would always say, we've got a year. We've got a year to spend it. We've got a year. And then someone, you know, as we were getting to the, like into December said, you know, it's the calendar year.

I was like, what? Because we had signed the contracts in February. Yeah. And so I suddenly had to spend $1,500, which now seems like, well, yeah, you can spend $1,500. Like, go in an afternoon. Yeah. But I actually did in an afternoon, a guy who'd never bought anything except that, like, Army and Navy. Yeah.

Went and spent $1,500 on, like, and I was literally going into places on Main Street and grabbing multiple sizes of the same t-shirt. Like, maybe I'll lose weight. Maybe I'll get fatter. Like, literally, like, like, as though I was on one of those, like, Guy Fieri shopping contest shows. I was like, how much can you get into your shopping cart? And I think in the last clothing purge, I finally got rid of like the last bits of, I think there's maybe one. I have like a Calvin Klein suit that I got with that money. But all that, yeah, nothing from that era was, I have ties.

I think I have ties left over. And you wear them all the time. And I wear those shoes. I sleep in the shoes. I don't wear them anywhere special, but bed. That's my special kind of place. Do you remember I was just. My coincidence, I think.

When you were shopping for your wedding outfit, when you found a tie that you were like, this is the perfect tie. So this day was kind of incredible because I was. So I was at Metrotown Mall. What year? This would have been 2009? 2007. Okay. So this is two years before the show.

So we were both there at the old ideal wedding. All right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, well, I was trying to, I was like, did the show and the wedding overlap?

No. So this is from before. So, so this is, this is, uh, and this, so this is,

by the way, we mentioned it briefly. The city news list was a show, uh, that was like a, uh, comedy news commentary show on city TV in Vancouver. It was in,

there was a popular, what was the show, it was based off of it was a sports show called. Pardon the interruption. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And it was like of a, of, of there, there was a list of topics on the side of the screen. And it's like, we're going to move down this list of, so, We were the city news list.

Yeah. We were on city news and we were going to move down this list. And my understanding of the show was we were literally born from a union grievance. That's right. Against the channel, which had eliminated its local news. Yeah. And the union was like, well, you can't do that. You are legally required to tell us.

You can't do that off television. You have to do that on television, said the union. Union to bosses. You have to do this on television. You must do that on television. And they were like, you're legally... I don't know if slime comes up. You're legally required to have half an hour of local news.

or news related programming between 6 p.m. and 8 p.m. every week night and the conditions of your license. So they were like, okay, what would be the cheapest possible? They didn't even hide. They weren't even like, what would be a fun way of? They were like, what is the cheapest possible? Yeah. And we were it. And so we ran twice in night because they ran us from in the 630 slot, I think.

which was where we legally had to be. But then where they thought we would actually maybe work is they ran us at 11 p.m. Do you remember what shows were on before and after you? Well, there was a big deal. The big story. Do you want to tell it? Well, yeah. When Jay Leno moved to 11, that was.

To 10 p.m. Oh, 10 p.m. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, we were going to be the one that followed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was like, that happened maybe six months into the show. They were like, guys, this is. big news because this show is going to be the biggest success in it in like kind of broadcast

history. Yeah. Jay Leno's going to 10 p.m. And he's going to be your lead in at 11. And that's what's going to raise this show to the level of. But do you remember one of the things that it was supposed to do is he, when he signed off from his show, threw it to a local affiliate. Uh-huh.

So they'd be like, and coming up, and then you'd edit it in. But they didn't edit our show in. Oh. They edited in an ad for Lexuses or something. Like it was just they took that bonus. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's the news list. Yeah. Coming up? Coming up there. Yeah. They don't drive a car. They're able to drive you crazy. Who knows?

Yeah, me. Think of a look at Graham Clark's feet. Your Jay Leno's following. Yeah. But we, um, that's right. That's right. You were talking about a tie. I feel like, so.

Yeah. But we, here's the great, here's the best part of that. story though, because this is, this shows you, like, how long we've, we've been there for each other. They brought us in. Sorry, I'm laughing at that, but I also just now seeing that you have a, a tar sticker on your water bottle. And check out my phone case. That is so good. Sorry, and I mean a Kate Blanchett tar sticker.

I was not expecting that. That really caught me off. Sorry, I have to conduct myself appropriately. Well, someone has to. So they brought us in, and they were like, listen, we're looking at the four of you. This show is going to be two people, because PTI, pardon the interruption, is two guys.

And they were like, we're going to have two of you. Tony Cornhouser and Mike Wilbaugh. I believe her their name. Oh, good poll. Good poll. Was it, it was American? It was American, but they would broadcast in Canada, but they would cut off like the last half hour. And at the end of that half hour, one of them would wave a Canadian flag saying, bye Canada.

Oh. Maybe enjoy some local programming. Graham Clark's feet. So they said we're going to hire two of you. And then we'll hire a third to be the writer. and who will fill in when one of you is away or sick or whatever. So we were like, so you're going to look at four of us and you're going to hire three of us?

Like, that sucks, man. Like the one person's going to not get a job here. Yeah, and these are people, I know. And these are, like, we're all friends and we're all. And so we said to them, look,

why don't you just pay us all? Yeah. just order, like, add up everything that you were going to spend on the three people. Yeah. And just divide that in four and hire all of us. And they did. Yeah. And it was fun.

It was really fun. They were like, fine. Yeah. Yeah. They were like, fine. They didn't care. Do we have to divide up the closing clothing allowance? They divided up the clothing allowance.

The one who was going to be a writer shouldn't get clothes. That's a waste. And why are we buying them shoes of all things? He's not writing with it. his feet. But funny enough. But so this tie story takes place two years before

when I'm getting married to Kara Ing. I shouldn't say her last name. Now she's identifiable in the story. And how people will be able to identify me as Charles Ing noted serial killer.

I don't actually look that up because it won't be funny. It's actually a really awful story. Days that? Yeah. When he chose me. No, I'm not sure I got the part in the interruption guys. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that was right. Nice, nice. So I was, my dad's wedding present to me was that I got a, so here's how the story is tied together nicely. He said, we'll get you a suit made. So I got a, I got a tailor-made suit on commercial drive from, from Angela. Like a real, not like an off the rack and then. No.

from Angelo's tailors on commercial drives. So he made me a shirt and he made me a suit. And it was like cut to fit, like made for me. Yeah. And so it fit me for one month. That wedding weight. Yeah. It was this beautiful suit.

And so we were out looking for a tie and shoes. Yeah. We went to the mall. Yeah. Looking for a towel. and shoes. And I found, I was at,

I was at the bay and I found a tie. I was like, this tie is perfect. Perfect. I love this tie. And then I looked on the back and it was a Donald J. Trump brand tie.

So I refused to buy it. Yeah. And I said, Because you hated the apprentice back. Yeah. That's how early. Yeah.

I am an early adopter of, I said, fuck this guy. Oh, I'm carefully not sworn the whole podcast. No, there's no reason for that.

We love swearing. Well, you should have fucking taught me. I would have said dog shit earlier and said dog crap. I, and so I found another tie. It was,

the other tie was equally beautiful. We didn't find shoes. And then we went out into the, into the parking lot. This is at Metro Town Mall and Burnaby. Yeah. There's a snowbank behind the car. we're putting stuff in the trunk

and we notice there's a shoe box on the snowbank and my dad, we laugh and we just, as a joke, open the box. Yeah. And it's this like, a pair of shoes,

the color is like perfect for the suit. And my dad goes, you should try him on. I go, yeah, right. And he goes, no, try him on. He goes, he goes, try him on. I go, dad, he goes, just try it on. You don't want a custom suit costume?

Yeah. And so I tried them on. They were like maybe a half size too big, but they really looked good. Yeah. And he was like, I'm going to buy you some of the antibacterial insoles. Put the shoes in the trunk. And so at my wedding, as the old thing goes, something borrowed, something found in the snowdrift. Something bought something blue

Some old shoe Some old shoe Yeah but that was one of the more memorable trips to the mall with my dad Man oh man And now he's in the body of St. Bernard You know, life moves But your kids must love when he comes in visits Take grab out in the yard

Run around him Got a little jug of brandy under his chin Ferrell A barrel. Should we move on to talk a little bit about Max Fun Drive? I would love that. What's up? It's Max Fun Drive time.

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The other one say Max Fun Drive. Yeah. Yeah. Well, look. Look. All fun aside. Listen, we got to break this down for you, okay? It's Max Fun Drive time.

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Should we head back to the show? Yeah. All right. Dave. Yeah. What's going on with you? Well, a couple things. New Olivia Rodriguez song came out today.

I've listened six times. Oh, yeah? Nice. Is it a banger? It's an absolute banger. It's called Drop Dead. Check it out. The middle bit is a little bit like hot to go by Chappell Road.

Oh, fun. I haven't really read the feedback online, see if if there's any fallout about that, but... Something to look forward to you. It's good. Check it out. We love Livrod here on the show. So you'd say you're like a pretty plugged in dad musically?

Yeah, I guess a little bit. I truly like have stopped listening to new music so much. And then like I saw this, have you heard about this band Geese? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was like a huge... I've only heard the controversy. Yeah, well, yeah, there was a... There was a...

There were, like, there were, like, like a hot buzz band last year. And then this controversy about them, like a lot of the buzz was algorithmically created. Sure. And then I was like, oh, well, I don't feel so bad about not getting around to that. Yeah, yeah. Well, if the Juno's this year, it was all Canada geese.

They were. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah. They shadow. What was their album that they put up this year of Canada geese? Hiss. Hiss. Hiss and hers it was called

It took me a little while to get there I'd say B plus B plus goose rock name So Levi Rodriguez Yeah that's one thing You were gonna just ask me about being plugged in Yeah

Are you? Well no because I would say like But I mean so our oldest Our eldest daughters are the same age Yeah And you and I are the same age Yeah And so I just like

I feel like almost everything new that I hear is, is through her. So I'll hear like a Sabrina Carbenter or Taylor Swift or something, but it's always almost always through. So what like I was at the Juno's this year and, and I came home having heard new music for the first time. Yeah. And in, I cannot remember how long. Yeah.

I, like, we just listen to the radio on the way to drop them off at school. But I, uh, Mario now. has headphones, so I don't hear. Oh, wow. Like, she's just, like, in her own musical world. What if she's listening to, like, crazy, like, jazz from the 30s? It starts showing up in the lingo. Hey, Dad, Man, Scramble some of these eggs.

Ratsha, da, tat. Anyways, I'm going to listen to some of the Cab Callaway. See you later, Daddy. Hey, Dad, Scramble some of these eggs. What does that mean in non-jazz talk? That means match these. potatoes. Scramble these eggs was a 30s jazz slang for scallop these potatoes. Yeah, so you know, she could be listening all sorts of stuff. Yeah. You'd have no idea.

She is. And then like, sometimes, well, well, like, she'll listen to something that we used to like or like. Oh, yeah. Like she's, she likes, uh, women singer songwriters. So yeah, yeah, yeah. All the women. song CDs. But like she'll listen to it. I don't know. Like Elastica or something. Yeah. Interesting.

Yeah. So that's a hip after all. Cool. I remember it was it was weird for me when Josephine first discovered like the spice girls. Oh yeah. What was that like? Because they were not so much musically as as sort of erotically part of my kind of arrival upon.

the scene. So that was a strange kind of thing, which, and she was little when she, like, started listening to those songs, because they were, like, playing the man. And you're like, this is inappropriate. I was like, this material is not for, and then I was listening to it. I was like, well, this is actually, this is children's music. Especially the stop right now. Thank you very much.

That seems like something written specifically for. Oh, yeah. That was the one. She loved it. I mean, also, like, if you put two and two together. you'll see what our friendship is for. That's like, that is like accounting stuff. Yeah.

I don't think I realize that that was the four in that phrase. And then two become one. But then two become one. That you're just confusing. This is like quantum mechanics. Anyway, so yeah, the other thing going on with me, well, we have something we both did. Yeah. This week I went to the eye doctor.

and they gave me some new contact lenses. I have to go back for a fitting because they didn't have my exact prescription, so they gave me some weird ones, but they were like, conceptually, we want you to... And he's the guy there with, like, tape measure around his neck,

and you're standing there in your shorts, and he's like, we're getting these tailors? It's the same guy who made my suit. I put it on a UI. I tried to look. I said, it tried to look. Um, but, uh, they, no, it's like, because they're going to have, they have like different.

I think they're for distance and distance. I think I need that now. Uh, but they, the ones that gave me are inconsistent. Like, when it's, when we're in low light, I can't see anything. Can they do transitions on a contact? I, oh, transitions like, like, isn't, oh, no, yeah. Transitions. Not transitions.

What am I thinking of? Progressives? Yeah, it'd be weird if your eyes all of a sudden just went black. Just walking outside. I think they're supposed to have like different spots on. What she explained, I didn't quite understand. Sure. And so I'm not sure what they're doing.

But I have to go back next week and get fully the full treatment. What? So they take like your eye measurements or? Well, for what they do is you go in a dark room. They make you look at a very far away like hot air balloon. Yeah, they puff in your eye. And then they, yeah, well, they, it's usually supposed to be a machine, right? Yeah.

They had a guy come in and go. you're going to fit this old world quality you're going to feel a little puff of air that's that's the angel's different we do it to puff ourselves what a lettuce do you see and they ask about your eye health and like

have you been experiencing any floaters and you're like well check out of the toilet You're experiencing one right now. So I was at a pottery class yesterday, and they kept saying coil. Yeah. And they just kept saying coil. Yeah. And not meaning poop.

No. And you just kind of go. And you'd, but yeah, you want to kind of look at the other people and go like, you know what I'm thinking. Is the pottery crowd, are they, do they have the dirty? I'm going to say this. It is a guile. crowd. Just,

yeah. Just straight ahead. Yeah. That tracks. Yeah. Online. So like one of the Vancouver Canucks rivals are the Edmonton Oilers. And online people will call them the coilers.

That is a good burn. I just come on, guys. So what you're using your keyboards for. It is really gross. Yeah. The idea of. Anyway, it is. It's disgusting.

Yeah, I mean, and in Edmonton, like, under those conditions. Sure. I mean, a negative 35 coil. Which sounds like something you need for your car. You got a 35 coil? I get a negative 35 coil. Well, no, we got the 25. The, and I take, I'm taking the eye test, and I'm looking at it.

And I have my old glasses with me, and she's like, try it with your glasses. Try it without. And afterwards, she's like, well, we did the test and your eyes look healthy. Sometimes we dilate your eyes because we can get a better reading. But they look healthy at, you know, an 85% reading. We would get 100% reading if you dilated them. Do you want to dilate them? Not really.

Yeah. And she's like, yeah, I wouldn't either. Yeah. You know what I'm going to do it to myself. Somebody here should get dilated. And then dilated is smaller big. Big. Big.

Big. big. And what is it when it's like a pinhole that? I don't know if there's a word for that. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think I, if there is a word for an eye, it coiled. Yeah, yeah, yeah, cold. Coiled eyes.

What were you making? A pot? A mug? So I think, I guess what you would call what I was doing last night. And I guess this could also theoretically operate as poop euphemism, but it was called a pinch pot. There you are. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so that's what I was. Working your way up to the wheel? Have you got some wheel time? No, this is a, this is a completely different course. No wheel.

The wheel is its own course. Oh, I see. This is a handbuilding. I've got no handbuilding technique. For clay? For clay. I've tried, we did it one coil or no one session of, uh, on the wheel. And that was that like, I didn't feel very confident with it, but the result was so much better

than everything else I made. The wheel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's one of the best inventions. And then I'm going to get new glasses, but I think I'm going to just get the same glasses I got before. Yeah.

Glasses are expensive. And you can just pop out, get new lenses in the old. They are expensive, and I don't, I don't know why I've never done that. Although by the time I get to the end of a pair of glasses, I'm always tired of them and I want to move on or something else. Like, I would say, like, if I could just have the glasses I had three pairs ago and just lock into those for the rest of my life, that's what I would do. Mine are like eight or nine years old. And so they are, they are new ones. Those are old glasses.

They're like, you know, sort of bubbled where my sweat has eroded them. But glasses are expensive. And I think it's because for every normal pair of glasses they make, they make a weird pair. Yeah. They're flooding the market. Weird pairs no one's going to buy or some kooky ant might buy one. I love kooky ant with a big brim glasses, crazy. You know, Sally Jaffe Rift Raphael.

Shiley Jessa Riffeloff. One of the tests for stroke. Try to raise your arm. Say Sally Jeff Fierreter. Oh, no. It's a contagious stroke. It's a contagious stroke. Taking out the hole.

It's a maximum fun drive catastrophe. Okay. Okay. I'm going to try a second. Salsa. Oh, no. Moripovich. Anyway, so I had,

bought a big, some glasses to make me look like a big bug. Cool. You always kind of want to. A really bold pair. A really bold pair. I always feel like, I just, I mean, I think to me, the sort of the ideal pair of glasses is like when you're watching a very old kind of black and white film where someone's being interviewed about the Declaration of Independence in some Southern Hemisphere country in the 1960s.

This is a very specific. Yeah. No, like somebody talking about like Patrice Lerner, the mumba, like those glasses. Those thick rim? Yeah. Oh, go. I mean, rim so thick, you don't even see heads.

See, rim. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. Rims in head. See, another thing you can't say. Yeah, yeah. Rims right around the coil.

Oh, gross. Yeah, so glasses. I'm going to get them. Well, I may have them, but I think I'm just going to get the same ones I have. You got great glasses. What you've got is your hands. enough that you can do those see-through glasses. And those look good on you.

I do have a pair of those. Yeah, I have a pair of those. Thank you for calling me handsome. Yeah, you're welcome. But they're not my regulars. My regulars are like a yellow pair, kind of a bold. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, that's right. I think, yeah, I don't think I've seen the, I have seen those, but, but I'm used to, more used to seeing you in your kind of translucent one. Make clear some, well, maybe that's some good feedback. I should give to the people at the glasses store. Hey, can you have this in clear?

Yeah. Yeah. I'm new to glasses, so I saw Graham wearing glasses the other day. That's right. And you saw me wearing them? Well, Graham and I went to a professional wrestling show. Oh, wow. So you got to have glasses.

Absolutely. Like sitting in the... Because otherwise you're going to get punched. Now I just picture you, like, sitting in overstuffed leather wingback chairs at the pro wrestling. Nice cognac. Yeah. Talking about Patrice Lumumba. One of these days I'm going to find out who that is.

He invented the Lombada. Yeah, our friend of the show, past guest, Holt Cabana. Okay. Works for a wrestling promotion called All Elite Wrestling, and he was in town, and he set us up with good seats. Oh, yeah. It's really good seats. The, I think, yeah, like, the area he

the seats were great yeah the area we were in was we were surrounded by professional photographers yeah we were like in the press section kind of thing which made me think how many pictures

are they needed this thing a lot surrounded by guys with like long lenses yeah did you cat were you there

when we clocked the cameraman with the white camera with gigantic long dreads no oh that was a scene man some of them were down to like calf

like that oh wow Yeah, yeah, like really. And, you know, for a guy who's like not really seeing where he's going. Yeah, you might step on a dread. Half-length dread. Yeah. Don't step on a dread.

Step on a dread. Break your mother's head. And we, you brought the whole family. Yeah, I brought the whole family. Colt told me, he's like, well, the pay-per-view starts at five, but there's a pre-show at four. and there'll be three female matches. And, you know, that might be inspiring for the girls. And I was like, why are we always trying to inspire girls at every turn?

So this isn't STEM. It's like, do I want the girls to be inspired into bro wrestling? But, yeah, I mean, we will. Yeah, yeah. And we did go at four, I think. we ended up 420 because I really kind of wanted to. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so, and I was there with Sally and then. Because you were trying to inspire her. Oh, sure. Like, she's always hitting me with a metal chair. But also how, like, how inspiring is it that all the female matches are over by the time the paper used to start?

Yeah. That's right. Yeah. If you look into inspire you kids. before the real show starts, we get all the lady crap, right? These women wrestlers

are all volunteers. You know, Wells were clearing the asbestos out of the events. When I was a kid and we would watch, did you ever watch wrestling a year?

Not a ton. A little bit. So they would have, they do it differently now, but back in the day, you would have like a wrestling star wrestling a guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And my brothers and I always called them volunteers, and we imagined that, you know, they pulled the crowd before the show and like, how many people can, you know, fit into this? The speedo. But it was. It was basically the Harlem Globetrotters model. Yes.

And which makes you then question, well, how come the Harlem Globetrotters have never gone the route of professional wrestling of just like, Why not eliminate the, like, the dummy team and just have two. Mm-hmm. That's true. Two crazy teams.

It's really good. They just have to be both bad on defense. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's true. I guess that's true. Yeah, yeah.

No defense. That's the, because now, yeah, there's no, I don't think there's any generic wrestler anymore. No. I mean, not in the big show, you know. Yeah. Not the big show. That's a big show. But it was,

it was at Rogers Arena. Oh, wow. Oh, this is serious. Yeah, yeah. This was like, big time. This was like a pay-per-view. Right, right.

And, I thought you meant like paper view. Like, this is a guy over. You might read about this in the Bluriby now. Burrity out. The bloated mail.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Andrew Coyne might have something. to say about this about this lady wrestling. I was inspired.

But you're brood, you were there before us. Yeah, and I think we stayed for two hours. He said that the pay-per-view starts at five and it goes into the night. Yeah. And we were like, well,

thank you for telling us that. So we know we're not expected. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you guys were sitting in the row in front of me, and it looked, and I don't know if this was correct or not, but it looked like Poppy not having a good time. Yeah, that's just her wrestling, wrestling bitch face. Wrestling bitch face. Oh, that's good.

She's had a worst time. Okay, sure, sure. Margo liked it. Yeah, Margo seemed to be into it. She's taking photos. We were, um, they found the, like, uh, things to laugh about it. Oh, sure. Like the, um.

When you're setting your sights on Inspired. That's, uh, you're setting a pretty big, uh, you know, going in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. This is, this is very good. We kind of, uh, have your future mapped out based on tonight. You'll know when Christmas rolls around what we're thinking. We'll get you in outfits and boots.

How come all of our furniture is folding now? But it was funny. Like the pay-per-view started and then the volume ratcheted it up. Like we were watching and we were like, oh, yeah, this is nice and comfy. And then at 5 o'clock, we're just blasted with music. Yeah. Everyone's singing along to these new metal songs. Oh, wow.

And it's fireworks and flames. and like it's way over the top. It's so much fun. And then I stayed the whole time. The rules around a tag team are, they seem to, yeah, I've changed from match to match. The referees are getting dumber. The referees will look away from someone doing a cheap shot

and they'll be, you know, lecturing one of the wrestlers who made a minor indiscretion. Well, and there's a thing. Because I was there also with past guest, Kyle Fines, and his wife, Aaron. And he was pointing out to me that in some tag team matches, you have to hold onto a rope that's connected to the turnbuckle while you're outside the ring. And they don't ever, that's the first time I've ever seen them do it. But apparently, like, it's a 100-year-old rule. And so, like, I'd never seen that before.

That was brand-new wrestling info for me. And were you there when the guy took off his pants? That was a real highlight Oh, is that in the ring? Yeah, in the ring There was a call Everybody went for it A take your pants off

And I guess, oh no I guess this goes with his character I don't know who he is But he did take off his pants And had like sparkly underwear underneath And everybody went nuts Oh, we missed that Yeah, it was fun

There were some fun chance Yeah Everyone knew the words to the song by Who's the Canadian wrestler? Jericho Chris Jericho He has like a new metal song and then Kyle goes, that's him

singing it. Oh, wow. Yeah, sang his own theme song. So this guy was there wrestling? Yeah. Oh, wow. And he's a guy who like when I was like a teenager, he would have been wrestling. Yeah, yeah. So, but this is not WWE. No, it's kind of, it's, yeah, it's its own kind of competitor. It's the only same level. Yes. Wow. Yeah, yeah. And then no, it'll never be the same level as WWE. Are you fucking kidding? But the guy who was in the last, match the good guy was uh Kenny Omega who's been around forever and ever he was in

Japanese wrestling I used to show clips of him at ring it ding dong dandy of him like fighting a eight year old girl okay like fighting a ladder so he's like it's so funny and then the bad guy that Colt was telling us about he didn't explain that his whole thing was hell that was his whole, he like came up out of the ground, smoke and fire, and he was wearing a devil's mask. And he had like catchphrases that were about like, you're not on the level of the devil. And it's just like, it was pretty good that his brand was hell. Hell. Yeah.

And it was pretty good. It was a pretty good match. There was the, um, I liked watching and seeing there was a guy who his whole job seemed to be like, when people enter the ring, they've got all these costumes on and they take off their cape and whatever and throw it on the ground. this guy's job was just like you'd see him carrying a big thing of clothes. Oh yeah, this guy, when he hit the ring, a giant banner unfurled with his name on it. And that it dis like unattached.

Then 10 guys had to like run it up this ramp to get it out of the shot, right? They got a lot of people working there. Yeah. And it was very funny because I think it was the last match. Somebody set up the table, right? Set up the table. We're not going through it. Oh, we're not going through it.

Oh, he did. just missed it. It's a checkoff's table. You're just waiting. You're like, you know somebody's going through this at some point. That happened at the end of the match. It would be great if no one did.

Yeah. If they like at the end just sit down and just starts eating it. Yeah. They sign their wedding license. Marriage license. But yeah, I was there for a better part of four or five hours. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, I would assume it was the best part. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was great. But, yeah, if you live in a town that has any kind of wrestling promotion, such a fun night out. Yeah, it'll inspire the daughters of, I guess, the Revolutionary War. What is it called?

Daughters of the American Revolution. Yeah, sure. Yeah, all those great wrestling-themed Gilmore Girls episodes. Where the D-A-R goes to watch the WW. The Towers of the wrestling promotion. I got D-A-R on my W-W-E and I don't know W-TF. And who is this character we're talking to? Johnny initials.

I did see someone had a sign that said, now kiss. Yeah, that's pretty good. I mean, when you, every note, I thought you were about reference. uh, Austin 316. Oh yeah. I saw someone with that shirt. Yeah. Okay.

Because when you think about, when you think about Steve Austin, he may be, I'm going to, this is slightly provocative, but I do kind of stand by this. Like in terms of it general impact on like the style aesthetic of like North American, like, Yeah. That guy changed how being a like 50 plus year old white. man looks for like ever like when we were kids a guy who was more than 50 years old if he were bald yeah just looked like an old man yeah and now almost 201 one they have goatees and they shave their heads yeah it's true that's absolutely true like it's uh and also i feel like um

and they take their selfie in their car and comment on Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I'll come all these trans kids trying to sell the same cookies as my girl guys. There should be a different kind of guy. I'm just saying, he's a different kind of cookie. Yeah, and he also, he had like kind of extensive knee problems,

so he always wore a brace. I feel like that same group of guys would be like, I could be a wrestler, he's got a brace on it, you can do it, That worked out a little bit. That's really inspiring. I was like when Randy Couture, this is the only thing about the UFC that I know. Because I was opening for Todd Allen one night in Colonna at a sports bar the night that Brock Lester was fighting Randy Couture. Okay.

And Brock Lester had like just gone over to like MMA from the professional wrestling. Yeah. And Randy Couture was like, the great middle-aged hope. Like, he was in his 40s and he was doing it and it was like, and all these like older, bald guys were like, he's carrying the standard for all of us. And as I remember it, he got like walloped.

Oh, yeah. And then Todd and I had to go out. Oh, yeah, I forgot what this. On stage to this room full of men who had pinned their life's hope. now on Randy King David Couture beating the Goliath of Brock Lesnar and try to make them laugh after the waitress went up like eight and a half months pregnant and made jokes about how they should turn off their cell phones even though she like putting it on vibrate and use them to jerk off and that's the best description I

can give you of what it's like to be a comedian on the road. Yes, 100%. Yep. I noticed a lot of the comedians or a lot of the wrestlers. Yeah. Like if the heels would just give the audience the finger. Yeah. That's right.

It has evolved into, uh, like you can do that now. At least, at least when they did suck it, it was like there was something, you know, you kind of used your imagination. Yeah. No, there was, there was a lot of figures. And that was an original movement. Yes, exactly. Across the garage. Oh, man.

Yeah, like doing that to somebody, like catching them off guard with a sucket, it's the best. Still, to this day. I wasn't. I wasn't into wrestling at the time. Or nor have I been since. But, uh, you know, suck it. I knew suck it. And I was, yeah.

It was really big. And I, like, but what you're saying about this, the middle finger now, the middle finger is like just this tasteless, ubiquitous, it's everywhere and people just do it. So remember that video that Robert F. Kennedy made with Kid Rock and they were I was about to say making out.

They were working out in jeans in the sauna. Yeah. And they're just like, he's on one of those exercise bikes with the like pumping handles. Yeah. And Kid Rock just gives you the finger in the middle of this video.

It's like, I thought, aren't you trying to make us friends in this video? Like, who is this video aimed at? Who's he giving the finger to you? It's still like the funniest thing you can do to your friend. If you're like, see someone in traffic. If you're like drive up next to your friend, hey. It is still really funny.

Check it out, Charlie. Yeah. As parents, is this the thing you have to make your kids not do? Or the finger just doesn't mean it. Like, it used to be like, for boat. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, it's not forebode.

My kids are very good about, like, they'll hear a swear word in a movie or something. And they'll repeat the joke but with the censored swear word. Oh, nice. Yeah, Josephine hates swearing. Really? Because I swear so much. She's like one of those kids whose dad smokes all the time. And so she's grossed out by it.

And then she'll eventually develop a crippling smoking. Sure. And then you'll catch her swearing. You'll say, now say all the swears. But I, but she really doesn't like swearing. Huh. I loved it as a kid. Oh, I swore all the time.

I loved swearing. I loved how Beavis and Butthead would create words that weren't swear words, but they were so creative just by combining, like, butt and munch. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I wonder what the latest swear word is. Like, what's the thing that you wouldn't be allowed to say? Well, Pascal started going, because he hears me, so he started going, what the fuck? That's cute.

And it's just, and what's bad is like when something like that is so cute and so funny. Yeah. But you can't encourage it. Yeah. But you also can't dwell on it because then he goes, why? Why can't I say what the fuck? Yeah. So like, so he'll just go, huh, what the fuck? And everyone in the family has to just kind of like turn their head away and not engage.

Like when a kid falls down and you're like, are you going to cry or not? Yeah. Don't go off my reaction. I don't know, the kids swear words. Kids swear the darthest things. They do. Kids swear the fuckingest things. Yeah, no, I don't hear a lot of, uh, I think like, we've removed so many of the old

transgressions. Yeah. For kids that it's like, uh, the swearing is like, it's almost like for them. It's like, we're going to not do the things that you think or makes you like, or cool, rebellious. Yeah. Yeah. These kids, man.

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We're hearing them anyways. Is this a new part of the show since the last time I was on? No, no, no. This is a regular? I don't have any remember you. We always like to start with the guest Oh shit I'm not here I am doing material

Like I don't remember this bit And it's No I do I have I have written something down But I Just give me what Yeah give me one second Because I do every Okay

Here it is Okay Okay this is So I was shopping with Josephine And Is your daughter Yeah Who's my daughter?

daughter and this is what I have written down. So I'm going to, I'm going to do some interpretation in my delivery, but this is, this is, um, a verbatim what she said to me. She goes, she goes, why'd you marry mum? Just for looks or? Sure. Well, yeah, partially. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, I guess that's like, it's weird that it's, it's sort of like, well, when I met her, I didn't know I was going to. marry her. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Except there's those crazy guys.

I saw her and I knew right away. I was going to marry. I'm going to make her my wife. Yeah. And he probably says that about every woman who walks in the door. He's going to marry her. By hook or by crook. My hook or by crook.

What did you call my wife? That's wonderful. Dave, do you have an overheard? Yeah. I was walking my dog. And I guess both dogs. I was walking both dogs. Okay.

And there's a guy walking by on a phone call on his AirPods. And I just heard him say, I'm kind of past that. I'm more focused on the beef between Gary Barlow and Robbie Williams. These are members of Take That. Yes. And I guess they're in the middle of a feud. I don't know if they still have a beep. I don't know if I mean, I saw the monkey movie.

Yeah, I was going to say he brought him a watermelon. Did you see them? I watched it on the airplane. I was like, this is an exact airplane movie fair for me. I saw it in theater with a local comedian who snuck in. I know this because he also snuck in. I saw two movies in one day and he stuck into boat. Is this Paul Anthony?

No. Oh, wow. Okay, that was my guess. That would be my, I thought we were in a laughing gas situation there where I could do a fun little guess based on behavior. It was, but yeah, it's a great movie. Check it out. Robbie Williams, one of the great monkey performers. We're talking bubbles.

We're talking the entire planet of the A. Gary Barlow, he wrote, want you back, and you got to hand it to him. Not the Jackson Five want you back. Which is the different one. You got to hand it to them. Mine is courtesy of going up an escalator behind two gentlemen. And the one guy was saying very dismissively about somebody that they were talking about.

He said, her favorite bird is a seagull. I was like, whoa. I mean, that could be a favorite bird, right? Seagull? I mean, I don't have a favorite bird, but seagull's low on the list. Yeah, yeah, that's what I... You used to have a great bit about seagulls. Like, I feel like a seagull is kind of a bird I associate with Dave Shumka.

I don't remember this bit. It was about, like, one seagull. getting like body shamed by the other seagulls at Granville Island and then say, well, maybe if you didn't eat so many fries. That does, it seems like it's in the right neighborhood. Yeah, I don't think I quite found it.

But I, no, I don't think, um, a seagull would not make my top list. It might make my bottom list. It might, uh,

it'd be close to my bottom list. But I also, I'm desperate for the context of this, like, is this a kid listing favorite birds? And he's worried about like, oh, man, she's not setting her horizons wide enough.

Is this an ornithologist who is just like, if you're specializing and you're looking at seagulls, like, you're never going to get hired. What do you mean? You're going to go, like, you'll never go hungry. There's plenty of work to do on seagulls. Yeah, you're going to be eating fries for the rest of your life. Yeah, I don't even know who, I mean, I think, I like to think an owl is somewhere in the top 10.

I think an owl. Abby and I were in Mexico a month ago. We went on a tour of these islands and went scuba diving, snorkeling. Oh, wow. Okay. Snorkel. And the tour guide was like, and look up there. You see so many cool birds when you're scuba diving.

Snorkeling. But there were birds. Well, there were these like, what are they? Vultures. Oh, yeah. No. Sorry, pelicans. Pelicans.

There were vultures because pelicans can only fit one baby in their nest. And so one of them gets like, if they have multiple kids, one gets knocked out. Oh, wow. I think that's what he said. Who knows if that's true. But the other one, he was like, and check out this bird. Does anyone know what this is? And Abby's like, her hand shot up, blue-footed booby.

I remember John Grisham once was telling a pelican story. But very brief. Get them nice and short. Although, I have to say, quite firm. Well, I appreciate your disclosure on this matter. No. Michael Crichton. Damn it.

What time was it? When this happened? Was it a time to come? Can we name any more? Oh, boy. I mean, those are the big, right? Was it time to kill him? Yeah. Yeah, I think so.

The Furman Pelican Brief were the big, too. Julia Roberts and Denzel, Tom Cruise. But remember, Samuel Jackson, I hope they burn in hell. Oh, yeah. And I hope they burn in hell. That's right. That was a time to kill, I think. Yeah.

Yeah. Now, we also have overheard sent into us by people all over the map. If you want to send one in, you can head into SBY at maximum fun.org. This first one comes from Sam K. My wife and I are Americans living in England. On Valentine's Day, we were walking along a canal in the outskirts of London, around noon, when we were greeted by a man on a moored boat drinking a bottle of vodka. We said hello, and he replied,

we're having a boat party tonight if you're interested. You know, orgies. What day of the week was Valentine's day? I was going to say, I think that story was that story. kept alternating like flickers of possible romance. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, they're by canals.

Okay. Valentine's Day was a Saturday. Okay. Perfect. Yeah, that is Orgy Day. And like, yeah, because otherwise I was like, oh, you guys get like, you're starting your Valentine's Day with a noon walk. Oh, my God.

You guys love, love. This next one comes from Joel, from Texas. I was recently in Victoria, B.C. on the last day of an Alaskan cruise from Seattle and we hired a cab to do a quick night tour in the few hours we had. We had a blast hustling around town

and passed an A&W on the way to Chinatown. I got to break out Dave's A&W fact, which is... Do you know what A&W stands for? Ambiguos and whoopee. There you go. Correct. Absolutely. I was trying to think

would it be comedically better to let you deliver that or me to meet you with it. I hope I made the way to see that. Absolutely. Okay. And he said, he got to say it. And the cab driver thought for a second said, surely that's not right, but I also don't know.

You can't be right. You can just hire a cab driver to be like, take me around and give me a tour. Yeah. Yeah, that's weird. Do you know what Wendy's is sure for? Go on. Wendy's nuts. Wendy's.

Dying a heart disease. She's British? Yeah. Yeah. I forgot to tell you. I put these frosties out. Wendy's does sound like an English change. Wendy's.

Yeah. Wendy's. When these are finished, bring out the others. Yeah, we have a cheeky Wendy's. Yeah. I got, I have a cheeky frosties at Wendy's. That's right. That's nice, isn't it?

That's a bacon, Eater. That will bring you up. That will bring you up a stove. That will bring you up a stove. I'll have a baconator. Wendy's days. One of these days? I don't know.

When are these days? That might make the list of the great jokes of Edinburgh. Oh, yeah. The winner of the Perrier Award. Dave Shumpkin. But they always have a joke of the festival. And it's always a pun. It's always a pun.

It's usually a pretty good pun. Yeah. When these days will win it. It'll be a frosty day in hell. But it would have to be held in a Wendy's to make it. Like, why is he keep talking about Wendy's? Yeah. Well, my one-man show is all about it.

You've got big tails in the... I mean, is it Dave Tomas to ask? We've got to get this Perrier Prize. This last one comes from Adam G. Oh, I've got to see my Perrier, a dauntist. Ah, there you go. we're back. In Yarmouth, Nova Scotia,

I'm riding with an overseen. Last week I was driving, I saw a teenager waiting to cross an intersection who was wearing a bright red t-shirt with bold black lettering on it that read, travel agents rock. Hell yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, they're downright artisanal nowadays. Oh, yeah. I have a nightmare about that mine will retire one day. It'll never happen. Yeah, you're right. No, if they've survived this, long that's like this is the uh i mean that now though so my my feeling is like the internet's never going to go away the internet's just it has become so busy yeah that it's just an extension

of real life world like to put an advertisement up on the internet used to mean like oh everybody is going to see this everybody i know is going to see that i've got a show on saturday so people stopped putting up posters because it was like how silly would it be for me to put up a poster and just hope some person's going to randomly see this and then come to the show. But now, putting something on the internet is like that. Oh, yeah. It's like you throw in a needle

into a billion haystacks. Yeah. And so, and I forget why I started saying that. Well, I was interested. We were hoping you would end with a pun. About the algorithm. It's going to get you?

Yeah, I was going to say some guy named Algorithm. polygolite, algorhythm. Anyway, it sets the super bar low. I don't think Wendy's had a super bar in about 40 years. They realized, hey, we might not make money on this unlimited pasta and tacos and dessert. Did Wendy's used to have that? Not only did they have it, but I would.

would say, I would say conservatively, eight of my 10 happiest childhood memories are Wendy's super bar adjacent. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Oh, my gosh. I mean, and it was just what I described. I believe it was pasta, um, tacos.

Uh, there was some other entirely different, uh, ethnoc culturally appropriated food. Sure. Uh, and then for dessert. it was all kinds of jello and pudding and uh... Jello. Pudding. Yeah.

All the other now canceled desserts. For their associated, for their association with historical evil. About the Wendy's Super Bar with an ad. He just, you how to build your own burrito as your, like, picking things from the super bar. Oh, wow. Or how to make your own.

Pasta salad. These contact lenses are bad. I cannot see this. Okay. In addition, Oh, you could not see this. That could be your Perrier Prize. Like,

these contacts are bad. You could not see this, them. You could not see this. You've applied. You've been rejected. Oh, the Perrier team. There we go. We're back.

We're back. Maybe the Goralstainer mineral water fry. Do you know, Gerlsteiner? I am so fixated on pronouncing that word in a super German way that when I used to order Gerlsteiner at the Alpen Club, which was the German cultural club's restaurant, they would ask me if I was German based on when I would order Gerlsteiner. Gertlsteiner, please.

And they go, oh, where are you from? I'm from Vancouver, silly. You did not see that coming. You fell right into my trap. I have had Carol Steiner, what I don't know what you do your thing, a few times. And I don't know if it's related,

but I've thrown up every time. Oh, wow. Like it's made with Ipecac. Two or three times I've gotten sick. that night. Oh, wow. Really? We're just like, and, you know, this was in my early 30s after I had a long no barf streak.

Oh, no. That's right. Well, it is the middle of water associated with Rosa Luxembourg, and they do promise an uprising. That's maybe not funny, but historically. It's smart. That's your period. Now did I say, in addition to overheards that are written in, we also accept your phone calls. If you want to call us, our phone number is 1.844-779-7631.

That's one. Ugh. SpyPod 1. Or send us a voice memo to SPY at maximum fun.org like these people have. Hi, Graham and Dave. It's Lorraine from Ohio. Lorraine. Wendy's is from Ohio.

I was walking past our local park yesterday. And there were two women apparently meeting up for a walk themselves late 40. early 50s. Anyway, one says, hey there is her friend approaches. And the friend that was approaching just said, well, my obsession with Timothy Shalameh is officially over. I thought, no friggin' way.

Yeah. That is a disgruntled opera fan. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like, I don't know, the world's dividing on the issue of Timothy Shalame. Did you ever see that? Do we ever talk about that Budweiser commercial where they're like, these like bros have snuck a bunch of Budwisers into the opera? Oh.

Because they're like, oh, our girlfriend's dragged us to the opera. But we have Budwisers. And then the singer hits the high notes and their glass bottles all break. Oh, that's good. That's pretty good. And the guy in front of them turns around with a can and says, amateurs or whatever. Oh, that's a really good. That's also the plot of Orfeo.

one of the first operas ever written. Really? Yeah. I'll think of it. I'm just, but I, I, I, can I say,

I would, I am an opera fan, but I, I, I was never really taken with Timothy's Shalomey. No? No.

He always bugged me. Yeah, it was fine as Wanka. That's my position on it. Fine as Wanka. That's, I feel like that should be a phrase to, like,

these kids are grown up his finest wanka. And if you support our show during the Max Fun Drive, you can check out our bonus content where we did an episode where we listened to 10 opera songs to see if we knew what they were. Yeah, that's right. See if we recognized them. We looked at the top 10 opera songs. We knew a lot of them.

Yeah. And then also, this is where I learned that Brian Adams did a duet with Povera. Yeah. They did all for one. All for love. All right. Here we go. Next one.

Hi, Dave Graham and a distinguished guest. This is Katie calling from Iowa. I work on a college campus, and I wanted to share two of my most favorite recent overheard. We're only going to listen to one. I was walking on campus, and there were two girls walking behind me complaining about this teaching assistant I didn't like. And the first girl goes, I fucking hate that guy. I hate him. He's so stupid.

I think he's so smart. and she pauses while she tries to think of the next most insulting thing to say. And she goes, and last semester, he showed me a picture of that cheese he makes. The other girl goes, bug that cheese he makes. He's so dumb. Cheese mix? Cheese he makes. Cheese he makes.

That's what I thought I heard. We've got to get rid of this voicemail system. I was going to say, I've been here through so many. different technological iterations. Yeah. Well, this one's gone backwards. Yeah. That cheese he makes, a T.A. who makes cheese.

And he shows you pictures of it. Act shows pictures. You just bring in samples. Yeah, exactly. If you got, you're making cheese. We're at Costco University, after all. I don't think I've ever met anybody who makes cheese. Pictures of homemade cheese.

I can't imagine that would be nice. Yeah. But, yeah. Like, of all the offensive things your T.A. could show you on his phone. Not too bad. No, that's true. Fairly benign.

Yeah. I mean, that's really, that's a situation I would have to describe as find a swanka. That's fine as wanka. What are you complaining about? It's equivalent to saying something is, right as rain. Right as rain? Find his wrongca. And here's your final phone call or voice from my mom.

Hey, David Graham, this is voice my mom calling from Pittsburgh. Pennsylvania, just an overheard yesterday. I was at a bagel shop. Shout out pitching bagels. And I was behind these two 20-somethings-in-line. They were probably like 21, maybe, probably 20. They were in college. 20-somethings. The bagel shop is small, so it has a sign on the door that says only five people all out and at a time. And I heard them say, the one say to the other, oh, what are they going to do? do if you're the sixth person in line, are they going to be like, no bagels for you?

And the second guy was like, ha ha, what? And the guy was like, you know, like the bagel Nazi. The second guy's like, bagel Nazi? First guy's like, yeah, like the soup Nazi. Second guy says, what's the soup Nazi? First guy goes, you know, from that show, what's it called? Um, bup-p-p-du-bo-bo-bo-boo-boo. Um, yes, Seinfeld.

And the second guy goes, I have never heard of that. He's the bagel Nazi. And the guy, first guy goes, well, it's the soup Nazi. And the second guy goes, well, what's the soup Nazi? The first guy's like, well, it's like a guy that if you don't do what he wants, he like takes your soup. And the second guy goes, huh, that sounds like a silly show. The first guy just went, oh, I guess. And then they moved on.

Well, uh, booboo. If you had to describe the soup Nazi. to somebody from scratch. Not bad. Not bad. I love the description of Seinfeld as being boop-bo-do-bo-do-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo. It was like a little play.

That was very well told. Oh, man. You know, like the soup-nogs. Because, yeah, bagel-notsie and soup-nazzi, you're like, well... Then you got it. You're like, yeah, if you started with bagel-nazzi, then you're, well, okay, first I need to teach you.

I thought the story was going in this this kid had misremembered the soup Nazi as what I thought too is the Bigelman. No, he's already onto a second order deli food Nazi. Pretty good stuff. Well, that brings us to the end of this here podcast. I know. I always get a little sad when you get to the overheard. Yeah.

It's almost, yeah, I feel the same way. You not only have you written two books, which we talked about, will be for sale the kids book in May. So it's published in June, but it's already available for pre-order. So if people want to get the book, they can do that now. Remind them what it is? The book is called I Sure Do.

And you can order it, pre-order it. Now it's out from Tradewind books, but you can get it wherever books are sold. And you can also get the A team. That's A spelled E-H. The A team, you can get that wherever books are sold. And I hope you do. And what's the A team? Oh, it's like,

da-b-d-d-d-d-d-d-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-and-and-you're sort of like, there's these guys, and they're like... I had one on a mohaw. Yeah, one guy needed to fall asleep on a plane. Oh, and if people want to, if they... I guess I haven't seen you guys since I did my comedy special. Yeah. So I have a comedy special that I also released as an album.

Which was then nominated for a Juneau Award. That's right. Yes, it was. So thank you very much. So if people do want to see that, it's called, Fish from the Jar and you can watch it on YouTube. If you just put in Charlie Demaris, Fish from the Jar, or you can listen to it wherever you stream your comedy.

Fish from the jar refers to the title track. I later found out bears a creepy parallel with a bit by a comedian who I don't love sharing. a potential parallel bit with but um it's known with Andrew Schultz and his predates mine by five years

so if anyone did steal from anyone it was me from him so if if you are watching the special and you come across this bit and you're like well doesn't Andrew Schultz have a bit like this? Just know

that I didn't know that when I recorded it or didn't know it consciously. And you can Google cryptomnesia, which is a legitimate phenomenon. There's actually a whole book written about Vladimir Nabokov called The Two Lolitas, which suggests that the book Lolita may in fact have been an act of cryptomnesia. but what I'm trying to say is don't get the right wing podcast crowd anger at me. Yeah, yeah.

Well, a lot of them listen. Yeah. I know you guys. I felt like Theo Vaughn coming on Joe Rogan here, like just the Canadian equivalent. Yeah, exactly. Can we look that? What is his assistant's name?

They always look that up. Jeffrey, let's say. Yeah. Jeffrey, look up, pardon the interrupt. Look up cryptomnesia. Yeah. And whatever the dog The two Lolitas and see if Charlie has that book in a pile somewhere.

It's on a shelf. That book is on a custom-made shelf. Well, thank you so much for being, thanks for having me. Thank you everybody out there for listening. Thank you for being a part of Maximum Fun. Yeah, this is the last time we're going to talk to you about it. We're talking about the two Lolitas.

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