Strangers on a Bench - Episode 69 Ive Never Felt This Way Before

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

Tom Rosenthal approaches a stranger on a park bench and asks if he can sit down next to them and record their conversation.This is what happened! Produced by Tom RosenthalEdited by Rose De LarrabeitiMixed by Mike WoolleyTheme tune by Tom Rosenthal & Lucy Railton Incidental music by Maddie AshmanEnd song : 'I'm Certain of It' by Rosie H Sullivan & Riley PearceStream it here: https://ffm.to/imcertainofitListen to all the end songs featured on the podcast (so far) on one handy playlist :https://ffm.to/soabendsongs————————————————————————————Instagram : @strangersonabench Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, sorry to bother you. Can I ask you a slightly odd question? I'm making a podcast called Strangers on a Bench, where essentially I talk to people I don't know on benches for 10 or 15 minutes. Are you up for that? Do you want to give it a go? Here we're rolling. Ready for the first one? Yeah, go on then. It's only going to happen once, me and you on a bench.

That's a funny thought? Well, I didn't even think it would have happened in the first place. I mean, probably the only two people doing this right now. Almost certainly in London. Is this London? Can you go out? Oh, God, yeah, good question. Is this London? Is this London?

Is it? Yeah, we're actually in... Can we anywhere? Madagascar right now. No one's going to know, you know? Yeah. They don't know what we look like. Actually, they know what I look like. They don't know what I look like.

They've got no idea what you look like. Do you want to say what you look like? Rough right now. This isn't the first question, by the way, describe yourself. Is it not? No. We haven't got to... We haven't got it's in the first one yet.

I'm up 5, 4, 5, 5.5. Blonde. You've got black fingernails. Not genetically. Yeah. So how often do you have to reapply? Do you have a ritual around doing it? I used to.

I used to have more of a routine, yeah. What happened? What happened? Work, life. What else is work and life ruined? No, it's actually work, life, relationships, friends, become more and then other things that you do fall out of the yeah it is a great shame isn't it so many things have to fall it's a shame it'd be nice if you could

just do all the things I don't know you know I don't know I think I don't mind sometimes I think if you've got your having too many pies you don't know what one you've eaten not a multi-pie person right now you just want a single one yeah maybe like two or three three pies what are your This is maybe the longest I've yet to get to get the first question. I was going to ask you what your three pies are. My three pies? Work, boyfriend and friends.

Fair. Okay, you ready for, let's do it? Oh, behind us, people are exercising. I know, I did see a lunch earlier and I don't know if it was exercising. You did a lunch? Oh, no, I did a run, actually. Oh, fantastic. Yeah.

Good one? It was the longest I ran. Oh, well done. Thank you. It weren't that long. Still well done. Thank you. Onwards and upwards. Exactly. Is that, is this, what does this mean the running? To just clear my head, really. And then I sat on a bench to have a coffee and a banana and now I'm talking. Talking about it. Yeah. That's what can happen in life. Fucking weird. See, this is why I don't run. I've ruined this part for you now. You'd have to run somewhere else. So when you were, I still haven't got to this first question. Why it's just taking me such a long time?

I'm just interested in this run now. Okay. So when you were running, were you thinking? Yeah, it was. Or were you just blanking stuff out? No, I was thinking. It was a big mixture of both. It was, yeah, it was a long old think.

Can you say what you were thinking about? You might have to warm me up a little bit to get to that. Okay, yeah. Let's do that. But it will happen. I will talk about it because I feel like this is a sign. I don't know. I need to probably talk about it.

This isn't a sign. What else could it be? Just a round and plus. It can be one or the other. It depends how you look it. You can take it how you look it. Yeah, exactly. Okay, let's warm you up.

Okay. It's a gentle stuff. I mean, luckily, the first question is really gentle. Okay, that's great. Which is, what's your favorite day of the week? It's my favorite day of the week? At the moment, it's probably a Thursday, if I'm honest. If I'm honest.

It never used to be a Thursday. It never did. No. What happened? I have a long-distance relationship and we see each other on Thursdays to Monday. And it's like the best thing ever on a Thursday now. So that's every week though? No.

Oh, it's not every week. No, it's not every week. Oh, okay. So, you know, actually maybe Thursday's my favourite day every other week or every... Do you think there's anything better than like the anticipation of like missing someone in that buildup? It actually can be quite pleasurable, right? Oh, it's lovely. But it's also

not as good as when you see each other. Distance definitely makes the heart grow thunder. And it also makes you realize that I don't know, I feel like when everyone's on top of each other in relationships, you sort of like merge into each other in some weird way. And like you can't have sight of when you've done something right or when you've done something wrong.

And I feel like when there's a lot of distance, everything is magnified. everything you do is like really clear and separated from the other person and it makes it a lot harder I think Is this related to the stuff you were thinking about Should I steer us back to something gentle? No, it's okay, fuck it, we're here, fuck it.

So you were thinking about that? I was, yeah And thinking about what you can do about it? No, I really fucked up Oh, I know What have you fucked up? I just fucked up, I lied, I was a liar Oh, I know Oh, okay.

Okay, let's rewind. It's really not good. What did you lie about? Some things that happened before we were together. I didn't tell the full truth, I guess. And then it's been a few months onwards. And I think it was just guilt from the lie, I think. It was the hard thing.

So first things first, the thing you did, you did it before the relationship. Yeah, it was before the relationship. So we would speak in and, like, dating, but we weren't in a relationship. friendship as such. And putting two into together, I'm guessing you did something with someone else. Yeah, it was, I didn't, it weren't sleeping with them or anything like that, God no.

Just a high five. It was just a high five. Literally, it wasn't that physical really. It was like a brief, like, encounter of just, I went really thinking. I think I was in a weird headspace. But it was like, I don't know. I don't know. So this was bubbling up and eventually felt like you had to say something.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And that literally happened like two days ago. Okay. Yes, it's very fresh. Okay, that is fresh. Yeah. That is fresh.

Okay. No, no, no, no, no, no, don't apologize at all. It's just life, isn't it? Yeah. Okay. Look, I mean, it's fine. Maybe this is the, on the borderline and say it morally, like we are, whether we're in London or not.

There's a fine line between. Yeah. Lying and not saying something. Yeah. No, I lied. I don't think it's quite... Do you think it's... Do you think it's lying? Okay.

Or I said like the half the truth. So this person you're with said, did anything happen and you said no. Yeah, I lied. Okay, okay, okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay. So I'm now, I'm thinking, why do you think you lied? I was scared. And why are you scared? I was just really scared that he was going to see me in a way that weren't actually who I was.

And then by doing that, I painted myself to be someone that I wasn't. Like, it was a lose-lose. because I think I knew that I liked him a lot but I couldn't post I just couldn't connect with it I don't know and like I didn't want him to leave and go anywhere

and I didn't think about that when that moment was happening it's fucking childish and it's stupid so I would say it's really complicated because you were when there's two when you could go either way and either way could go wrong. Yeah. That's a really complicated position to be in. You've lied from my understanding

so far because you actually really care quite passionately about this person who you're in. Yeah. I've never felt this way about someone before, so this is why I've gone on a fucking run. So that's why you, in the way, in fact, if he wasn't for this lie, you wouldn't be here now, maybe. Yeah. So maybe I... What a shame. I'm joking. So good. I kind of think, I don't know, I think, I think it speaks volumes that like, you're clearly not a person that like enjoys lying. Oh no. And so I don't think you should blame herself for that.

Remember like intense romantic stuff makes people do things they wouldn't normally do. That is like the, it's quite literally the nature of how stuff works. People just go a bit mad. And it's about your strength of feeling for this person. You know, you did it because you didn't want to hurt someone. I mean, it's kind of, actually, before I start talking too much, sorry, before I start talking too much. Sorry, how did, so I'm guessing, how did he, how did he respond when you, I sort of, because it's long distance.

It was done on the phone, which wasn't the ideal situation. Oh, no, that's not ideal. No, but I can... Oh, you just had to do it? Had to. Where were you when you had the conversation? In my room, like two nights ago.

What were you looking at when you were telling him? Him. Oh, it was a... Oh, sorry! Which I think kind of made it worse, because I just... Oh, I was so... Yeah, that probably does make it worse. You've probably chosen the worst of all the...

Thank you. Thank you. telecommunication medium is there? Fuck off. I already feel so shit about it, mate. I'm here to make you feel worse. That's my job. It's working.

Oh, no. I'm going to tell it around. That's my low point. It's all positive. It's all positive. It made me laugh, say thanks, but yeah, no, it weren't good at all. And he was like, just need a sec. And then, like, we didn't speak for an hour.

And then he called me back, and then we had a bit more of a conversation, right? I can even really hold myself together, if I'm honest. And he was fuming, and we haven't spoke since. There's only be a couple of days. Okay. Well, you hold, listen, people take a bit of time to digest stuff, you know. And if this person is sensible, they'll have a think and go, you know what, I've got something really special with this person.

I hope so. Sorry. Sorry, sorry. Let's like, let's, okay. Let's like, think about this a bit, you know. There's probably also a bit of just like if they feel hurt want to kind of punish the other person a bit

and so you know what I mean? So yeah I don't know so he might be doing that I feel sick like all the time he'll be feeling intensity that way too you know yeah

I don't know it's in the front of my head all the time like I can't and it will be in front of his as well yeah he went for a run this morning oh did he but how did you know because I've got him on Strava

oh yeah Does he have yours? Yeah. Oh, so he'll be able to see you've been for a run. I know, we're in Strava Wars right now. So he did like a run? No, I liked his. Oh.

It's so sad. Okay, so, no, but he would have, I'm sure he'll see that. He'll see that. You know, he knows you're thinking about him. Yeah. Have you said you didn't tell him because you feel like so deeply about it? I mean, like, they just didn't want to. I just cried.

Okay. We haven't even got that far yet. Well, you've got that in the locker. I just don't know. It's the uncertainty. Like, I don't know if he's going to leave me. And that, that's what's like the worst thing. You can't control.

You can't control. Anyway, that's that. Whoa. Might drop. I think, she's off. I'm off, bye. No more bench. Yeah, fuck a bench, mate.

Maybe he's going to text you while on the bench. Could you imagine? That would be fun. That would be a good twist. I'm like... How often are you looking at your phone more than you do normally? Oh my God, it's not in funding normally. I'm like, I do not disturb wanker and it's just on,

do not disturb the whole time. It's not been on, do not disturb once. I've charged it on top of my head on ringer. I've never been like this about anyone before ever. If this is painful, let me know, but I think I kind of want to know. It's all right. Let's get loop back round to the start. What was the moment when you were spending time with him at the beginning?

What I was about you're like, you know what, like I really think I feel something deeper for this person. I know the exact moment. So we were doing long distance, and I have to get on a plane. Oh, you have to, we didn't mention a plane? Yeah, planes. We have to get on planes. You've got to get on planes.

Fucking planes. Island. Whoa. Yeah. Did you meet in Ireland? No, we met in London. He was visiting a mate and, um, they came out to me in a pub.

Fantastic. I know. What was his first line? Can I sit here? He said it in the accent as well. Can I sit here? Can I sit here? That implies that he would normally use the accent.

Yeah, he turned it on, just for a pickup line. He's actually from Southampton. No. And I was like, yeah, okay. How are you with other people? I was with my friend laughing. We just done puppy yoga. And then we ended up in a pub.

So what is puppy yoga? You do yoga with those puppies. It's so great. But you don't really do yoga. You basically stretch your hands. drinks out and coddle with a Labrador. How many puppies are about? Oh, like 12.

Wow. Are they just pissing everywhere, though? Yeah, they did piss everywhere. Yeah, I did, yeah. So it was a lot of piss. That's what you get as well. Okay, well, okay, so you just don't have pubbiago, you're in a great, you're, I suppose you're, like, you're nourished spiritually.

Yeah, and physically. Yeah. And you're straight down the pub. Straight to the pub. Have you had a drink at this point? One? Well, I had more, yeah, well, we went to Eminess and got like the cans. In the pub? What?

Well, yeah, here we go. This is tactic. Oh, yeah. So then you buy like a drink at the pub and then you like just pour the can into the drink. So it's like a never-ending vodka, lime and soda. Drinks are so expensive now that it makes sense. But yeah, pubs are good. Yeah.

You're very clever basically. Thank you. That's a clever move. Respect. I'm feeling really clever right now. Right, so you've done that. How many cans have you poured in? Quite not.

I mean, it was like towards the end of the night. Okay. And then he came over and. and then spent the night talking to each other and then got breakfast the next day like met for breakfast and Canary Wharf spent the whole day together and then I dropped him off at the airport

that sounds like a nice although breakfast of Canary Wharf Fish Room Oh whoa Oh yeah Oh wow Pulled out all the stops Whoa

Got meat sweats though You know when you're hung over And you're trying to eat Do you say you went to the airport with him Yeah I dropped off Oh wow We sat in like the Burger King And Stans to the airport

For like ages and just talked and... I'm going to cry again. It's alright. It's okay. Oh, alright. Oh, mate. Oh, it's so shit. Oh, but crying is good because it means you feel something.

It's like to meet someone you feel passionately about is rare, you know? And it's great. I think if, honestly, I think if you feel this passionately, he'll be absolutely stupid to not... Yeah, fucking... I know where he lives. I mean, I was going to say as you were talking, I'm where everything I say is so easy for me to say because I'm just like, this isn't my life, right? Yeah. So take everything I say with the picture's talk. But if I were you, I would be tempted just to rock up.

Yeah, I mean, I'll see how it goes. As in nothing can be more convincing than you being there and taking the time to go and say, look, I'm here and this is what you mean to me and la la la. I would. I would have gone this weekend. It's my dad's birthday. So we've got like a massive family meal. And I can't miss that. Yeah. What happens on Monday? You worked, right? Monday work, yeah. Can you scu? Can you scy? Can I sky? I think it might be worth it. Like it's just for the day even. Sometimes you've got to make the big moves. I wouldn't even see it's a big move though. Like, yeah, it would just be what I would do. No, there you go. And I feel like if he's, if he don't talk to me,

me by Sunday, then I'll do it. What's special about him? Oh my God, like he's literally an angel. He's funny, he's so kind, he's so thoughtful. He's really hard working. Active, like I never ran. He got me into running. He's patient.

And it's like we just see life the same. And he's fit. And he's fit. He's so fit. That might be the first time, so I was crazy. He tried on a bench after the hand, he's so fit. And then tears. I know.

He's so fit. I just love him. Are you told him that? Yeah. Because he told you that. Yeah. And it was just perfect. It's all just like, we've both got really busy jobs,

and then we spend time together and we say it's just like nothing else is like happening. And all you think about is each other, and we could be doing anything with each other, and it's fine. Like, I've said, I just don't think that's normal. Do you know what I mean? To feel like that with, like, anyone. And this is the first time you felt this about someone. Yeah, and I don't think I would ever feel like this about anyone else. Do you know what I mean?

And I'm such, like, a... I'm just very, like, independent. Like, I'm not a... dependent person. That's why I think, although it's long distance, like, it's been working for both of us. But when shit like this happens, it is literally, like, your skin is just crawling all the time.

You can't breathe because you can't sit there and comfort that person after knowing that you've hurt them because they're not here. They're physically just not here. Oh, you've got to get out of there on Monday. He's got to message me. Even if he does, maybe just do it. Yeah. No, you're right. Once, like, confusion, the person you're disabling with at the start. I don't even know what he looks like.

Yeah, it's gone. But this isn't someone he knows? No. No. No. So it's just, like, literally around when, like, it was just, like, kind of... Really fresh, but it was like we'd had conversations about being, like, exclusive or, like, not wanting to be with anyone else sort of thing. And I didn't want to be with anyone else.

Yeah. And I was closed off, and I didn't really understand how I was feeling, or I didn't want to. Yeah. Yeah. I think also, it's a pretty big thing to potentially fall for someone who lives in another country, you know? Yeah. That must be a factor here. Like, it takes more to commit to that.

than if someone lived on down the road. Yeah. It's like it makes sense from your standpoint to be like, well, you know, is that him? No, my mum, go away. My heart just literally came up my house. Fuck's sake. Come on, mate. Give us a call.

Give us a call. I think you're going to be right. You're going to do it. Yeah. You're determined. I am determined. And when you've got that, you know. What does it happen when you are?

are this determined in other parts of your life? I normally get what I want. There you go. But this isn't the same sort of thing, is it? Because this is someone else's feelings. Do you know what I mean? But that force can make things happen, you know? Yeah, I'm very certain.

So. What else are you certain about? I'm certain that I want to travel. I'm certain I want to be successful. And not just success in like money, but like balance. I want to be healthier, because I want to be healthier, because I can fucking smoke like a chimney and it's really not good. Maybe running is a trick?

Maybe, but like fucking else, fucking shit mate. Run as high. I was crying. I got to 4k and I was like, Why am I doing this? Doing it for the Strava? Do it for fucking Strava. I hope the boys. Maybe do it for love.

Yeah, so cringe in it. Maybe you can run together. We do run together. Oh, you do? Oh, I see. You already do it. But he's so much better it than me. And then my competitive nature is like, we did a 5K. And, um...

Oh, mate, I literally finished and I was like, bleh. Oh, whoa. I was going to be sick everywhere because I was like trying to keep up. Did it though. That's what I did. I've only done one serious run, but I did the marathon when I was 18. That's a pretty serious run. Yeah, I know. Yeah. But I did that.

I tried to keep up with this run. It was way better than me. for most of it. Yeah. It absolutely killed me. How long did you do it for? Kept up with him for 16 miles. That's good.

But he was a proper runner. But then I just completely fell apart. Did you finish it though? Oh yeah, yeah. What was your time? Four hours, 53 minutes. That's not too shabby. I don't think I could do it.

But I ran the first half in like an hour and a half. Oh, okay. So it just went a bit downhill from there. Yeah, so I ran it just like, but I was 18. We do funny things from her 18. Oh, we do fucking. stupid things when we're 18. Did you do stupid things with your 18?

Oh yeah, massively. Don't tell me your age. Well, you can if you want, but you're actually quite hard to pin an age on. How old do you think I am? I can tell you if it's like somewhat accurate or not. God, it's gonna only go wrong, really, can it? Oh no, maybe not. I just won't tell you.

Let's go for 24. Okay, that's not far off. Okay, it's not like 33 or something. Yeah, I'm actually 42 years of age. stage. It's all those runs if you do. I feel like the more you run the more you just like ages you. You don't fucking enjoy it. It is some sort of form of self-harm like no one likes it. You're hurting yourself. Your lungs are going to fall out. You're not enjoying this. I like how you say anti-running. I'm so anti-running. There aren't enough anti-runners.

Fucking hate running. That's why I was so against Strava. I used to take the piss out of people that had it and I am now that wanker that has straber. Not that wanker. Is that how they call them? No, I just laid that up. That's good though. Thank you. What does your room look like?

With my room like? Can we do a room tour? We can do a room tour, yeah, alright, okay. I've got like a big bed, black shelves. I've got like a cow print rug that's like furry. Nice. And then I've got like black cushions on the bed. Black theme here?

I do, yeah. And like green, like fake plants. Fake plants? Fake plants. Not, what's all? I don't think I could look after a real plant. Oh, you could look after a real one, mate. I really don't think I could.

You sure? I feel like it would just piss me off. I actually think it would. I'm going to buy you a real plant. Please don't it would die. No, there's one that is just very unkillable. It's just not one of my pies at the moment. How many fake plants do you have?

Five. Oh, wow. Yeah. And then I've got like a record player. And then like record. That is also not real. It is? No, it is.

That works. Big music lover. Tell me what, imagine you're talking to a 10-year-old child who exclusively listens to music on the streaming services who wouldn't really understand the concept of a record player. What would you say to them to try and convince them that they maybe should try it? I also don't understand how it works. I agree.

I don't get it either, but it looks cool, and it sounds cool. And I think it's also something physical that you can keep and see. Also, I love spending money, and I love shopping, and I love looking at things and searching for things that I think I might like. So I could spend hours in a vinyl shop just how, like, that 10-year-old would spend hours on his phone listening to SoundCloud rappers, do you know what me? But he might like Hot Wheels. Yeah.

But he can't drive. Same thing. I can't fucking vinyl DJ but I like a vinyl. That's quite a compelling case that you made. Thank you. I like that you just submitted it. It's okay to find something cool. Yeah, you don't have to be like obsessed with everything that you want to indulge in. It don't have to be a part of your personality. Being into vinyl actually does make vinyl shops really fun.

I love vinyl shops. It's great. It's so fun to flick through and see what looks interesting. You just feel so cool. Yeah. I'm not really fun. cool but I feel cool when I'm in a vinyl shop and I've like I'd pretend that I know what I'm doing I don't know what I'm doing that's probably what everyone else in the shop is doing yeah we all got to pretend until you know you probably if you do enough flicking you'll know eventually have you ever got a record that you just it was a real punt and then you got back and played it like oh wow that's

amazing you know yeah yeah think of what that is I bought a 60s garage rock album and I was literally falling apart and I was like, ugh, this is going to be a pile of shit. And I put it on and I was like, oh my God, great. That's so cool. What a fun thing to do? Yeah, it was great. Do you and Mr. Island have a song? Yeah, we've got loads.

Is there a kind of one song? There's like three, I want to say. Sam, can we get another three? Drum roll, please. In third place. Stereophonics. I want to get lost of you. Absolute Banger.

Nice. The second one is Rebel Soul by Kewanuka. Yes. Yeah, I know that one. Michael Kewanuka. Yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah, rebel soul. And then the one for me is

Soul Love by David Bowie. Have you heard that? I think I have heard it. It's a fucking banger. Those are the three. And you listen together or you feel like it represents your love? Well, we listened together.

So when we went to where we went, on the way home, I literally listened to it. That's David Bowie song the whole time just sob cried. Because I was never going to see this guy again. On the way home. From the first time we saw each other. And I was like...

Why didn't you think you would see him again then? Because it was long distance. We also sort of said to each other like to avoid the shit that inevitably ended up happening. We'll just pick things up like after summer. We were trying to be mature about it. And I was like, yeah, it's great idea. On the way home. And he told me the whole way home, he was listening to this one.

Rebel Soul. So he listened to his, the whole way home. He listened to yours, the whole way. Oh, that's so sweet. I know. This is what I mean. It's fucking not normal. You've got to get there on Monday.

Anyway, I feel like this has gone very, like, depressing. I don't know if this is normally how these conversations go. These conversations don't have it. They have no rhyme or reason. They just go wherever they go. What matters is it's a truthful moment. This is not what I thought would happen. on a Saturday, like at all.

It's a very strange life, isn't it? I didn't think it was happening because I was just straight out and I just thought I would approach you to ask about the different benches. I thought you were coming home because you saw me crying and you thought like...

Oh no. Oh yeah, no, I was so crying when you came over. And then I was like, what does this guy fucking want? What is this fucking go on? Not another guy. Not another guy. Where's the most concentrated area

for benches? I was like, bro, what? Can you not see I'm having a moment here? So what don't we know about you now? Anything you want to say for the end of this thing? Yeah, let's lift the mood a little bit. Anything we don't know? I love baking.

Oh, fantastic. Yeah. Do you bake for Ireland, Island guy? I have made him a cottage pie. That's not baking, that's cooking. But I've also, I made brownies. Nice. But yeah, I've got a brother.

That's good. Yeah, yeah. You get on? Yeah, love him. We get along really well, actually. Three years younger than you? Yeah, he is three years younger than me. How the fuck did you know that?

How did you know that? It's just a guess. Yes. But sometimes you do a good guess. You know, sometimes you just have a feeling. I sense the younger brother. I felt like you would be an older sister, but there needs to be a little bit of distance,

not too much distance. That's my thing. So that's why, that's my logic. You are right. I haven't been studying your life. I was going to say, who are you? Is this even real? So you love your brother, you love your family, all these things.

Yeah. Your father's birthday. Mm-hmm. You love father. Father, good time. Father, good time, love. Father. Have you got him a present?

I did. I got him like two bits of clothing and then I got him like a book. Facts that sound like bullshit. Oh, that's funny. Because he's a bit of a nerd. Oh, fantastic. And he just loves weird facts. Oh, lovely.

And then we did like balloons and shit in the kitchen. How many balloons? Two packs of eight. mate. Sorry, I find myself laughing at just the mundality of the question that I've asked, but also just the fact, it's just really funny, just to, we're having a conversation about two packs. I know.

Who gives a fuck? Two packs of the balloons. Who actually cares about the balloons? Someone's going to have to listen to this, you know? I say someone, quite a few people. Do you actually get a lot of, like, people listening to this? Yeah, quite a decent amount. Fuck, do you actually?

No way. Wow. I wonder if anyone's going to listen to this and message me and be like, were you on this podcast? I've looked at what the fuck you talked about, mate. 16 balloons, that's crazy. I was like, I'd only give him four. I'd only give him one pack of eight.

I find blowing balloons are quite difficult. Oh, yeah, no. It's so hard. Sometimes small things in life are so hard. Like booking in to get nails done frequently. Yes, you need to... It's so hard. Maybe you should get back on that.

So there's three big takeaways here. One, get to Ireland, do the business. get it sorted get it done yeah two get a one real plant that you try

and at least try and keep alive that's the highest one and the third thing get my nails oh yes get your nails sorted like you see like you enjoyed that

I do I do it makes me feel like presentable sometimes I get people because obviously people can't there's been the savage

they can't see us yeah so would you be so kind as to describe what you can see in front of us and how that makes you feel. All right, yeah, I can do. There's a lot of ducks.

And you can sort of see the road, which I think ruins it a little bit. But it's fine. There's a few other benches that are all empty. The park is prettier over there. I like the Willow tree, actually. If the park's pretty over there, why did you sit here?

If I'm actually honest, I felt I'm going to cry. I was sitting on the bench over there. And then there was an old couple sat on this one. And then they got up and left and I just was like, oh. You wanted to sit in there low? Yeah. Maybe you should have just laying across them.

Can I just lay across you too? Just fucking put my head on the actual bench and sat on the floor. Just. And then they got up and waddled away. And I was like, oh, fuck's sake, I'm going to have to sit there now. So I came and sat here. And then I feel cold. but like lighter

and I feel happy that I'm outside it's good to get outside I needed to get outside yeah it's going insane oh there's actually oh they're playing water polo like I think oh no they're not Is it some kind of game?

I think it's canoeing A game of canoe Do you want to go play canoeing? Should we go play a bit of canoe? Do you ever get in a canoe? Oh yeah I was on holiday with my brother we were really young and we were in a canoe

or a kayak. And this is evil, older sister. And we were like, in the middle of nowhere, like we went really far out. And my brother was like, I need a toilet. We need to go back. And I was like, oh yeah, yeah, cool. And I just wouldn't let him go back.

No. He was like, no, I need a shit. I'm going to shit myself. I was like, going the other way. It was such a demon. We sit there and laugh about it now. He was laughing at the time. It weren't like, he was like, no.

Like, it was like painful laugh. But so evil. That boy knows resilience. You've taught him well. Thank you. And now he doesn't think he refuses to get in a canoe. Every holiday, I'm like, oh, should we go in the canoe? He was like, no.

Well, I think we've done this. Thank you. I've really enjoyed it. I have as well, actually. I can't actually believe I've done it if I'm honest. Yeah, well I hope it has made your tassay worse. No, it hasn't at all. Thank you.

Well, thank you for being honest and open. We're all going to be wondering now how it's going to play out. That's the magic of life. You're never going to know. You're never going to know. But you know what? I feel like I know that it's going to be alright. I hope so. Last question for you.

Yeah. What are you going to do next? What we're going to do next? next. Oh, fuck you all. Not another run. Not a fucking run. No, I'm probably going to, well, immediately go home, shower.

I hope that my boyfriend messages me. Fingers crossed. Hallelujah. If he does, if he doesn't, then we'll guess he's getting an easy jet and Ryan Air Flight out. Me. And is what it is. Well, thank you very much. Thank you.

I hope you have a lovely day.