Strangers on a Bench - EPISODE 91: Lads, Crying, and David Attenborough

Episode Date: June 8, 2026

Tom Rosenthal approaches a stranger on a park bench and asks if he can sit down next to them and record their conversation.This is what happened! Produced by Tom RosenthalEdited by Rose De LarrabeitiMixed by Mike WoolleyTheme tune by Tom Rosenthal & Lucy Railton Incidental music by Maddie AshmanEnd song : 'Tynemouthing' by Jes LoweStream it here : https://ffm.to/tynemouthingListen to all the end songs featured on the podcast (so far) on one handy playlist :https://ffm.to/soabendsongs————————————————————————————Instagram : @strangersonabench Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, so it to bother you. Can I ask you a slightly odd question? I'm making a podcast called Strangers on a Bench where essentially I talk to people I don't know on benches for 10 or 15 minutes. Are you up for that? Do you want to give it a go? Do you have a favourite day of the week? I do. I do. He's only got and got one? I'd see a Saturday. It's the middle of your weekend.

So you can still go out. With me personally, I'll go out with the boys through the day. Throughout the day with the boys? You've got to drinks. How many boys are we talking? We're talking two of them mostly. One, he drives. Because I don't drive myself, so it sounds like I'm using him for his car.

But I promise I'm not. Okay, you know. Do you know what I'm going to spend with the car? So we're just sit and gamble. Or we'll sit and have a couple of pints and just... In the car? Not pints in the car. Go to a pub, sorry.

If we're gambling, we'll sit in the car. Gambling? All right. Love it. Do you ever win? I do. I won this morning. Did you? I find it a really good movie. What did he bet on?

So I had 16 pound left in the bank. I just had a feeling. So literally as soon as I opened my eyes, I put a tenor on, won 40 pound, took 20 pound out, kept 20 pound on, and then won 190 pounds. On slots. But it's like just all on my phone. Oh, wow.

So you just had a good feeling? I did. It paid off. I couldn't believe it. How often does it not pay off? A lot, a lot. A lot. Like, silly amounts.

So if you win big, the idea is you put something back on to see what else you can get? You always, like, I won 190. I took 180 out and kept 10 on. Didn't win anything with the 10, but. What are you going to do with 180? Good question. It is the weekend tomorrow. And it's pay day tomorrow.

So it's like... Big day. It's like a bonus on me pay. What's it like where you work? It's great, you know, like, it's my first time in hospitality. but I'm quite good at like talking to people. So the host to the customer service side of things is, it's great, you know what it is. Has anyone had been difficult?

Oh, I do. I've got one story of a customer. Every customer I've had, when I've been working, as being absolutely like just lovely people in general. There was this one person, this big, massive, like, 6'4 tattooed, roid freak. He came in with his missus. He just jumped out of like 70 grand rangerover. He'd ordered his meal, but he ordered two cents.

separate things that weren't included in your deal. So it was 15 pounds for the two extras and then it came to get these bill. And why's me bill an extra 15 pound because you ordered two things that you didn't, that weren't in the meal? No, well you did, it's on your bill, otherwise if you didn't order it, it wouldn't be on your bill, mate.

So that wasn't when you were there? No, I was in, yeah. Oh, you were there? Yeah, I had to deal with him. How did you do it? Well, I had someone else working at the time and she like caved in and went, I'll just take it off your bill.

And I was like, if it's me, I'm sorry, but you've asked for the food, you've ate the food. It's super bill, mate. Would you have squared up to him? Would that have been your job? Do you know what it is? I'm all for standing on business. I'm off of standing on business,

but at that time when he stood up out of his child, was looking up at him like, what? Maybe not today. Business tomorrow. I'll stand up to the staff tomorrow. But that's the only encounter I've had, really. Any, like, romantic encounters? Any little moments?

Well, the questions, yeah. Right? So yesterday, there was two girls. I think there was like, it must have been a family because there was two like all their women and two all their men and then two daughters. And there was this one girl, blonde hair. She looked really nice and she kept looking at us

and I was at the ball. I was working with a lad at the time. You were worried he could be looking at him? Right. You didn't know which one? So I was like, hmm. So I went, oh yeah, I'm gonna write me number down and give her it. You went, no, no, you can't do that.

Oh. I went, why not? Why not? Like the boss doesn't let you do that. Oh. I went here. So then the girl I'm working with now, I went, I went, am I not allowed to give customers my number?

I went, what are you're on about? I went, what? She went, yeah, of course you are. Why wouldn't you be? Like, as long as it's not like, you're not, like in the middle of eating food and I go, yeah, there's my number. Check on in the Zadier.

I, like, she was about to leave. She was at the back of the queue. And I was like, oh, it's my perfect chance. It's God's timing. And then he didn't let us do it. He took my number offers. But I think as well, it was sort of like a, if I can't get the number,

I want to get the number. So I think it was one of them. So like, he fancied her and he just didn't want me to give up his number. That sounds rotten. Yeah, I don't know. Will she come back? I hope so, mate. I count on the days.

I'll pass for extra shifts. Everyone. But maybe, I mean, maybe actually this is probably against law, but they might have booking information. The original is, he didn't leave his number, you know? And it was the Dada book there. You're like, I thought. Call the Dada.

Excuse me, man. I'll get your daughter's number. Would you do that, though? If it's the send out, this number is there, would you call that number? Yeah, 100%. If I really, if I really felt really strongly, I, I'd simply be like, oh, so you came in the restaurant, I just thought you're really attractive, I just thought I'd try me chances. Then see where I go from.

To the dad. No, me, he's not the time. But I could work. So you've got to sweeten the dad up, though, I suppose, don't you? So I'd say, you're a very good look another day when you came in the shop, mate. You looked as smart as it done. Exactly, I would as well. She was beautiful, you know.

Beautiful. Are you a kind of person that grabs, obviously it seems that you were about to grab the moment. Yeah. And then you were denied. Never let anyone deny you to grab a moment. I know. Let that be the last time.

Oh, ho. If there's ever a reason, that was it. To a T. Are you the kind of guy that makes a big move? I'm like, not necessarily the big moves, but I'm confident in myself. Have you always been confident? Yeah.

I feel like I have. to always be one of me treats. Yeah, I suppose you could see you. Do you know where it comes from at all? Do it come from Pages? Got it? I don't know.

Well, my mom's quite, like, my mom's quite boisterous. Like, if something's annoyed me mom, she's going to tell you. You get on well with your mum? Yeah, oh, it should be best friend. Oh, that's lovely. Literally my best friend, no.

If I ask you to think of, like, a kind of mundane moment with your mom, like a little gentle moment. Yeah. There's anything that stands out of your time with her? Yeah.

there's a lot actually you know like my mom I was my mom's first so there's a lot of like responsibility and sort of like I wouldn't say pressure because obviously I've got younger siblings now but it's a lot of like whatever I do she'll be like that's reflecting on your little brother but there's been a lot of moments like I would went for food I took her for food it was just me and her and it's just good I like just have that little bonding because we don't necessarily get to like really sit down and talk to each other like one-on-one because it's just got a newborn now as well oh wow yeah I know A little one?

A little one, fresh. Fresh out. Fresh, mate. Oh, God, he's lush and out, bless him, but he's hard work. Do you have to get up? No, it's not, mate. I live with me grandad at the minute. With your grandad?

Yeah, yeah. That's sweet. He's just down the road as well. What's that like? Amazing. It's mad as well, because it's not like living with my grandad. It's just like living with a really old friend. If you heard him say that, he'd kill us as well.

Well, you like the friend bit. I'd like to think so. But, yeah, like me grander's born. is poor he's looked after since I was about three how beautiful because when I was younger like about five to

15 I was the worst child on the planet really like the person you say now was a totally different person of the person that you would have seen 10 year ago so hang on so what was five to 15 you do just not having that father role I feel like

and then just taking all my anger out on everyone else because I felt like the world orders a favour so I'd take that aggression in the side and the built-up emotion just out on mostly my mom at the time to be honest with you. Oh, poor mum. And then it was whenever I was naughty it was, right, got your grandas. So then my grandad be like, I'd wrote with my granders and you go, what are you done now?

And then I'll tell him and you'll go, well you know you can stay here. No, I'd be right, so I felt aright there. Oh, sweet. So he's always been looking after you? Oh, always since I was about three. Oh, that's beautiful. Like it's lush. What would you like to do together?

What's your thing? He's restricted at the moment because he's had a new operation now but we'd walk into time off go for a couple of pounds or we'd take the dog out for a walk just a little chill vibes to be honest but it's been it's been amazing

it's good it's so loving what is living together now do you have any little rituals you do together? I've always got we've got tea at nine o'clock when you say tea so what is that right going on

sorry yeah and my grandad drinks shandies throughout the day but I just poh about 13 14 canes but he needs to always be drinking for about 40 years. Oh wow. So if you stopped it, it would just wipe them out. I suppose shandy's, you know, it could be more.

You always see as he goes, I'm not an alcoholic, I'm alcohol dependent. I'll go, way, I go, I, grandma, whatever makes you feel better. You're still going? You still going. You're still going. You'll be drinking as we'll speak. You get together at 9 o'clock. Yeah. So you sit down? I have a supper and that's the only time I'll have a drink. It's with me grander at 8 o'clock. And so you're talking about the day? You're talking about life. He's just talked about work, and then he'll talk about his work. He used to work on the shipyards.

Like, he was a sprayer. Like, every day is a different story. Really? Honestly, it's so fascinating. How did you activate each story? Like, how does each one start? So, well, you see something on the telly, because he likes watching Deadliest Carch.

What is that? Like, the crab fishing in... Like, it's like near Antarctic, I'm going to say. Oh, okay. It's deadly because... Because it's, like, the seas are, like, 30, 40, 50-foot waves. Like, it's, honestly, it's... insanity and he'll go directly you could do that. Not a chance. He'll love to do that me. I'd love to do that. I'd be a pista

with not me. I'm like I bet you're rolling him out. And then you'll go on a tangent like from like a random story from work. I'm like it's just it's fascinating to think like I didn't Alex obviously I've known him all my life and I'm still getting new stories. That's beautiful. It's unreal honestly it's immense and then I feel like these moments now as well with my grandda he's just turned 60 and I know it's quite young like for a grander but I'm just trying to cherish all the moments now because these are like the moments that I'll remember like the stories that that's what I want to hold on to so there's been some young parents in your yeah yeah yeah can I ask how was your moment you had you my mom was 16 when she had is and

my dad was 17 yeah and she's 40 this year which to me is insanity like she's really old to me But then to me little siblings, just like this young, like, how we get up ready for school? But then for me, when I was in school, it was right, get up now, get to school, get ready. Like, it was just two totally different moms. I mean, this is the first time I've had someone that's had a 16-year-old mum.

Yeah, is it? Yeah. On a bench. When did you first dawn on you that you had, like, a really young man? I remember my mom's 24th birthday. I know that sounds, like, mad. And I'm 22 now. I'm like, that's just crazy to me.

Like, she had me at, like, at my age. I just thought, like, I don't know how she'd done it. And like she was a single parent. What do you remember about his birthday? I just remember the blooms being up and all of our friends being around and then I got shipped with my granders. You're off again?

I don't remember the most of them. That was during your difficult five to 15th stage. Oh, 100%. How many children? She's got, phone including me. I've got two brothers on my dad's side too. Yeah. But I don't really say them as much.

Do you see your mum's done well? Yeah, oh, honestly, unbelievably. the definition of strong independent woman I swear I don't know how she's done it especially with me I feel like to put anyone off having another thing but she's honestly she's done amazing I don't know how she's done it

when you're kind of out and about like now what would you know what would someone else think yeah we've had ours like your girlfriend I've had ours like your sister and then my mom just takes them

all as a compliment but we've had honestly we've had everything sister's probably the most common one. Yeah. Because I feel like I've got my mom's facial features. I've just got my dad's skin tone. Yeah. So. That's amazing. That's beautiful. It sounds like it's really being lovely. It is. And now you're just just good mates. I. I. I know what? That's far away in age. I and I and that. It's mad. But she still tells you what's what's what? Oh 100%. Still put us in my place. The only woman I'd say that can put us in my place.

You know, how often do you do something to piss her up? I mean, what's hit right? It'll be on the rare occasion I do go out with the boys. I do too far. Yeah, go and overstepping the mark on the drink and then I'll end up rocking up at the house like 7 o'clock in the morning. And then that's when the domestic starts. But it's a very valid, very, very valid excuse because why are you rocking up at 7 o'clock in the morning?

Like, yeah. But that's genuinely... Sends you straight to granddad. Yeah, oh, tell us about it made. It's literally go get a shower, get your clothes and go. I'm like, wait. Yeah. Fair enough.

Yeah. But it used to be a lot heavier, like, on the arguments, just over stupid petty stuff. But I feel like, I'm living with each other because we're so alike. We're just... About heads. Massively.

So then I moved to my grand as the start of this year, and me, me, my mom's had a stronger bonds now that I've moved away. That's a bit distance, isn't it? It's really important. 100%. But, like, she's got the kids now. Like, she's got, I'd rather, like, just be out of the way, you know what I mean?

Like, she's got a new boyfriend now. I'm just like, I just... Do you approve? I do, I do, he's a lovely lad, he really is. She used to be with him before she got me dad. Oh, right. Ah, he's... What, pre-16?

Yeah, about 14, 15, I think. She used to be with him and then circle the block, circle of life, and came around. But he's lush, you know, he's not... Honestly, he's not got a bad bone in his body. Like, he's a lovely lad he is. If him and my mom have an argument, he's like, sorry, I'm so sorry.

Because my mom will be like, you, no! There was one time, my man went out. the drink with our friend. Yeah. And my mom's boyfriend, he'd went to the shop,

and you'd went, oh, do you want anything from the shop? And she went, yeah, get us a Lucasade for the morning, like, when I'm rough. So he went out, blah, blah, and then you went to the shop, dropped her off.

My mom makes up the next morning and goes, get us that Luke's aid out of the fridge. Oh, I didn't get you, you know? So that was World War III there. My mom doesn't have our Lucasade's in the morning, mate. It's hell on.

It's hell on. Honestly, she didn't speak with him for, like, three days, you know? Or she'll hold a grudge, Oh, it's bad. It's bad. I didn't know Lucas Aid in the morning was a good hangover at a girl. Oh, it's a jolly hangover, like it?

Is it? You back it? I do. Oh, massively. My mom's an original Lucasade. I'm more than orange. It's got to be fizzy, though. It can't be Lucasade sports.

It's got to be the first. Do you just down it? Aye. If you're that rough, you will just neck it all in one and try not to regurgitated by that. So your big drinking nights Friday, Saturday? We didn't get, we're still on your, what you're doing on the Saturday, by the way, this favourite Saturday. Yeah, I just, well. So, you're with your two main friends?

Two main friends. So the three of you are a group. We're a group of five. Oh, okay. But two of them have got girlfriends. So it's, it's more like, are you allowed out of nice? Which is just, I'm talking to a man, do you know, like, I can't wrap my head around it. But, yeah, on the Saturday.

So this Saturday, for example, we're going to the pub and time off. I'll have a couple of drinks here. Make water. the salutation which is a bar across the road have a couple of drinks here and then just see where they take so do you think girlfriends ruin everything? In terms of in what way what would you say what would you mean by ruin everything

I need to be careful yeah no I mean it annoys you that they kind of get in the way of friendships yeah 100% like absolutely so what happens I mean have you had a girlfriend I have before yeah not at the minute it's not for me it's just too like Or having a girlfriend or...

Like being in a relationship You don't like it? Nah, it's not... Why not? Well, this early stage in my 20s, I've still got that. I feel like when I get at like 25, 26 then maybe it's like sort of taken a bit more serious but it's just like the demands

and they're just really high maintenance and I'm too like laid back in nonchalant so they don't like that I'm laid back. Well, you could find someone in that either. I could, I could be someone I'm just looking... It could have been that girl I try to give me number but we'll never know.

The only one will never know. You'll be 90 or something. I'll go, I'll never loved again. Never loved again. Be my love, me. It would. So do you think you've been in love yet?

I have 100%. Yeah. But that wasn't enough to stay together. It wasn't. And then I had like an on and off sort of situation ship for about two, three years. Oh, well, that's a long time. Yeah. I think in the, like, now that if I looked back at it,

I liked her more than she liked me. And then that's what I don't like. so I put my guard up massively. But she was genuinely, I'd say it now, and it sounds mad me seeing it, but she was genuinely probably the love of my life. I'd see myself spending the rest of my life, 100%.

Could it be, could it flip? I mean, obviously it flips so in different ways, but could it flip back the other way? I would love it to, to be honest, but I'm not going to force anything that's not there. Like, if she was to reach out with me, I'm all he has. When you were doing the flip, you know, on and off,

who was doing the reaching out? Mostly me. I don't know, like for me, I feel like in my generation of lads, you don't chase girls or like women, but like this one, I couldn't I just couldn't help it. Why wouldn't you do that? What is there? I feel like it's sort of,

not like sort of a stigma, but like chasing a lass, like you don't. Don't do it? Yeah, like you just like, yeah. Then how do you do it? I mean, I feel like... I sure you've got to do a bit of chasing for it to work in a first place, but I feel like it's more just like of a pride thing. Like you've got to drop your pride and drop your ego and just do it, which is what

done with her and at the time now when I look back at it I never felt too fraught jail in my life if if you're not supposed to chase them does that mean that they have to chase you that's additionally that what happens culturally who's doing what I mean is that no anyone getting them anybody it's I it's just a free-for-all like to be honest to you genuinely what are your general method if you did if you do like someone what are the general methods then if you can't really chase what are your moves why do you do that I'm in person person. I'm going to use the salutation

in time off as an example. There's a smoking area a bit outside. And if I like someone and I see her go out then I'm like following myself. Take my friend with us so I don't look like I'm on the... Suddenly start smoking. Aye, aye. Then suddenly it's just start smoking and then I'll be like,

do you want to starve? No, I don't smoke. All right, no bother. What's your naming anyway? And then it just goes from there. Very good. But if they're not a smoker? If they're not a smoker and just ask for the name, it's a human at the end of the day. It's been like, hello, you're all right, what's the name? It is a human in the end of the day.

I don't know, I don't know why I was going to say Wendy. You can say Wendy if you want. It's definitely a name. Oh, what's in him, Wendy? Oh, you're all right, Wendy, it's nice to meet you. I think you look really nice tonight. Oh, thank you. You do too.

Lovely shoes, Wendy. Nice. I love that. I'm loving the Cardi. And then I'd go like, oh, is there any chance I could get your number? Talk about the cardigan again. Talk about the cardigan. We can talk about the cardigan.

night long. Yeah, exactly. Don't tell me your name, but how do you feel about it? My name? Oh, I love it. Yeah, I got my name from my grander. Oh, so you got the same name as a grander? Yeah, yeah, so I got my grandad's first name and I got a boom bus. Hey, hey, what is the boom buzz? It's just a massive rave, a loads of people on that bus and it just drives around the coast. You've got to rent it, obviously, but... Oh, right. So I just thought, I thought... I got it was a bounce like it like the number 17. I don't have to. No, you've got to rent here.

You get out on the bus stop. That would be so fun. 10 a quid. You rock it out. Bouncing. I got my granddad's first name and then I've got my dad's first name and my dad's second name. Hang on this. Okay, let's rewind.

Let's rewind. You've got your dad, you've got your granddad's first name. First name. First name. First name. Right. Okay. And then your dad's, my dad's first and second name.

Right. That's my middle and second name. Okay, got it. Yeah. So let's, for instance, let's imagine your grandfather's called Bob. Yeah. Right, then you're called Bob. Yeah.

And then let's imagine your father's called. Michelangelo. Michelangelo. You're Bob, Michaelangelo. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Which is your name. Brilliant.

Exactly. That would be amazing. You can change you after today. I know, Michelangelo. Is this the ferry? Yeah, it's the Amsterdam ferry. Oh, it's big, isn't it? I hate when people stand on the back and wave.

You know, like if I'm at work and I'm standing at the door at work and people are on the back waving. So you just turn around? Just turn around and go back in the show. Look, it's the King Sea Ways. Yeah, D-FDS. It's the main one, Newcastle, Amsterdam,

Amsterdam and Newcastle. Have you ever done it? I haven't. I'm doing it for my birthday next month. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you going to be, I hope you'll wave back to you. wave. You're being badly waving.

Wait a no. Oh look, these kids are running along. It's like a scene from something... Oh mate, it's unbelievable. See, look at him weaving. Who's waving there? They're and them two at the bus. Oh yes. Let's do it. Let's do it.

Do they know that we're waving? Do they know... We'll wave to them. Do they know we're waving back? Let's keep going. And I'll have a knee look, aren't it? Yes. And that could be a Wendy. It could, exactly.

Exactly. I was the one you were waving at. It was me. Black top, black, too. I felt a connection. Oh, yes. What is the fairest you felt a connection from, in terms of distance? You know, in terms of that, looking for someone a long way?

Yeah, I've probably in a bar, though, to be honest. But just like across the room. But then I feel like, if they sat with, like, a family, I don't, like, I feel like, I feel like, that's not the time. Probably yesterday. Yesterday. It was the time. Yesterday was the time. Yeah, it was absolutely stunning.

Oh, wow, you know. What do you think you chime with personality-wise? Me? I don't know. I feel like I'm quite bubbly. I feel like talking to a girl now as well. Confidence is a massive thing. Confident in themselves.

But why are the bubbly? Just so I can have a laugh. I feel like if I can't. Oh, you need to have a... I need to have a laugh myself because I don't want to sound like big-headed. Yeah, and it's not the way I'm intending this to come across. But people say that I like, I'm funny and I do like,

If I feel comfortable around people, I'll do like stupid accents and that. So I feel like if I can sit with a girl and do a stupid accent and then there's a back, I'm like, pop. It's meant to be. That's what you'd be doing in the next smokey area? And I let me do my stupid accent. What is the first one you go to accent? I've got, I've got a long list of accent.

Oh, really? I've got... Okay. Let's imagine, let's imagine I was this girl, I was Wendy. Right. Okay, what are you get? What's your safest bet? You know, what would be your kind of...

I've got, like, I've... I say I'm on the spot I'll see so I crumble it I crumble when I'm on the spot but I've got Gordon Ramsey but Gordon Ramsey's just saying the F word after every line so it doesn't really count

in your own accent yeah not like in a Gordon Gordon Ramsey I wouldn't just say it in my own eye no no okay you've got Gordon Ramsey I've got David Arndra I've got Scotland

oh sorry that's not a person Scottish sorry I can do it I feel Scottish isn't too far away from Geordie. Do you call yourself a Jordy? Yeah, or 100%. Yeah.

100%. North side of the water. If you're to swim across there, though, is that still? That's not Geordy land over there. So we're like, what? How far is that? Like 200 metres? Yeah, literally.

From not being a Geordy. I mean, there's still called ourselves Jordy's in some parts, but I feel like on that side, all of them, like, from what we can see. So what are they? Mackham? Sand dancers, yeah. Sand dancers? Yeah.

Was that because... It was like... I don't know the exact... Is that a derogatory term for them? It's like an old, jolly sort of... Is that what... Oh, okay, see, so that's what you call them? Yeah.

That's not what they call themselves. What do they call themselves? Mattims. Okay, right. Yeah, so you want, right, I. Okay. Sorry, I just... I just venture out of it.

Is that because they like the sand? No, I think, right? Oh, yours is? No, I think, right, don't court is on this. But from what I remember being told, it's because of when... loads of Arabs and Middle Eastern people all moved over there

in its Middle East... Quite a long time ago. Sand. When, though? Recently? No, like... Oh, you did it? Yeah, it's why.

That I'd take it all jolly. Take an old jolly slang in it. That's what my grandadal's a man anyway. Okay, fantastic. And would you, like, I mean, let's imagine someone rocks up and they're, like, a macum or whatever. First off, how quickly...

Can you tell? By that accent, straight away. That's straight away. Yeah, like, can you do a impression of them? I can't. Let's start with that. Go on. Come on.

Come on. Channel on a macum. Right, so you'd be like, so I'll tell you, me and my sister's going for fishing chips tomorrow. That's how I take your normal voice. And if it was a macon, we'd be like, me and my sister's going for fishing chips tomorrow.

It's just I hate the way of the tour. Me and my sister, like cheesy chips and that. They speak horrible, mate. I hate, I'm not doing it anymore. I hate it. I hate it. Do the impression. Is it even...

If I do it, it is to mock them, I'm not going to lie to you. Like, whenever I'm talking like that, I'm like, take the piss out of them. Got a new question. Yesterday woman in the restaurant comes in. You know where we're going now. And you do get chatting. Straight away, she's across the river.

What are we saying? If the talks how I've just talked, I can't do it. You'd be flat, no. Flat no. Flat no. Even if she's just supported Newcastle, but you still talk like that, I couldn't ever.

Does that exist? You could potentially talk like that and support Newcastle? Yeah. I just, I mean personally, I could not, I hate it, grind it. It's like nails on the chalkboard.

Honestly, I despise it this. Does that, do you, is that a lot of your fellow, George? I feel like it is a lot of fellow, like, if you go to Newcastle city centre, a lot of, like,

the older generation of men would be the same. But like, for me personally, I feel like I'm the only one that genuinely I don't want to say hate because hate is a really strong word but really dislikes that accent. To be fair though you get a lot of people come over from South Shields come to the shop on the ferry. Of course.

So, but they're lovely people. Well, I just had a couple in earlier with the dog. Yeah. It's just lush. It's a chill vibe. I mean, do you think you, someone said, Listen to me there, I'm a Londoner. Yeah, yeah. When they're talking to Londoners, they're like, oh, well, it may be warm in London temperature-wise,

but we've got the warm people up here. Ah, 100%. I've been to London myself here. I went for the Carrabow Cup finals. The big one? Yeah, the big one. The one that you won? First trophy for 70 years or something.

Unbelievable. Honestly, cried my eyes out. Did you? Are you a cryer? I am. I'm very, very emotional. Oh, that's lovely. I am very emotional.

I get that from me, though, as well. It's important to let it out. 100%. But I feel like as a man as well, the worst thing to do is keep that sort of stuff bottle in because a lot of people don't speak about it. And then that's when the worst things happen. For sure.

Yeah. Is that your first time in London? Yeah, I, it was. Oh, you don't need to go back after that. Nah, no. It's not going to be better than that. I know, I know. But I feel like the people,

to walk down the street here and you see someone else and you look up and they give you like a nod. just like a little or an eyebrow raise or something. Oh, you're right, mate? And then in London, everyone's like stone-faced. That's the experience I had in any way. Everyone's like very cold and just stuck to the phone walking.

I mean, it's fair enough, isn't it? Like, I'm not like saying that a bad thing. But everyone up here loves everyone. Especially if the sun's out made. Poh. What is that, like, if you can imagine a world without it, what does it mean for your general spirit that people are like that?

for you? A lot. I go a lot off the energy I receive. Like, I just love, I love being happy, like, if that makes sense. I just love, like, good positivity. Like, I'm a very positive person. So I love getting that energy back and being able to give it out as well. Because life's way too short.

So, so true. So true. The thing about it in London, I think the thing to remember is that people are people everywhere. Yeah. So what makes it possible for people to be, cheery here, is in everybody within reason. But it's just that people just don't do it in London. But if I, you know, if I walk past 20 people in London, I'd say good morning,

they'll say good morning back to me. Yeah. It's just that no one's doing it. Yeah, yeah, true. You see, that's the problem. It's not, it's not embedded in the culture. Yeah, ah, yeah, that makes sense. So it's like you can, they're there to be activated.

Yeah, you can get it out of them. It's just not instilled. But it's just not instilled to do it off the back. Yeah. You know, they need it to go. But it's beautiful. So beautiful that it would be the. the case here that, you know, you would have that

and you could just... 100%. And you get that little bit of... Yeah, I just think you'd get so much... But those conversations are just so important for just... 100%. For your mental well-being, for your... Just to general health. Yeah, without a dose. I think the comedy of it doesn't actually need to be anything like that dramatic.

Sometimes even just people acknowledging you. You feel like you're in the world and not this kind of like... Solitary beast. You know what I mean? If I'm, like, in the house by myself, I've got nothing to do. You've just got like... a thousand thoughts on in my head. And me being at work now. Nothing.

Like, not a thing. So when you're in the house at a thousand thoughts, what are you thinking about? Like, what goes to your mind? I'd say, for me personally,

it would just be bills. How can I do this better? How can I do that better? How do you want to do better? Just, like, develop myself as a person. But I feel like, but then at the same time. How are we doing that?

How are we doing it? I don't know. I don't know. Okay. So you want to develop yourself as a faster? I do. But I've got absolutely nothing else in there. Okay.

Well, okay, let's rewind. Let's rewind the development stage. I mean, say more, basically. We don't figure it out. What I want to do, like, in terms of development, is, like, I'm only 22. I've still got a hell of a lot of learn. Like, insane amounts to learn.

But, like... And what would you like to learn? Anything, like, more, like, about the actual reality of, like, sort of life and, like, what comes with it? Because I feel like, looking back at it, like, I might be 22, but I feel like mentally, I'm still 16-18. I don't feel like I've not fully grown up

to how I want to be. Be comfortable in myself. I still, obviously, I love the person I am, don't get it wrong. But I just feel like I could do that a little bit better. And that's all, like, I'll try to look for it all the time, just develop myself more.

I want to work abroad, so be like a holiday rep. So I feel like, obviously, the hospitality in here in the pulling pints and making coffees, blah, blah, will help us in the future. So what about language? I want to learn Spanish.

there we go. Yeah, that's part of my character. So you just got to get on it? I do, I know. I know, no time like the present. Here's what I would say. Like, set yourself a challenge. Yeah.

Find a simple job we can do out there where you don't know anybody. Yeah. And like, just force yourself to do it. Yeah, 100%. And then after three months or even a couple of months, you're going to have a good grasp of it. Yeah.

And then you go from there. That's just a basis. Then you just go, you know. Yeah, well, that would do us. So language could be one. Yeah, language is definitely one. I just I don't feel like I'm not where I want to be right now I feel like with with lads my age as well

we put a lot of pressure on ourselves and we've got a lot of pressure coming from like not me personally but coming from parents to be like you need to do this you need to be this and it's like we don't even know what we want to be ourselves like we've got absolutely no idea like for me personally I left school and it was just right there you go

there's a real world and then you sort of stood there I'm 16-year-old, I'm going, hold on a second. What was your first job? I was doing roofing. It was really good, actually. I really enjoyed it, especially in the summer. Yeah. Unbelievable.

That lasted three months, and then I was at EE in a call center for about six months and then COVID hiss. Oh, shit, yeah. And then I didn't guess nothing. Yeah. For like a couple of years. And then it was just in and off. Probably had about 30 jobs, and I'm 22.

Oh, wow. It's not a good achievement, like it. No, no, no, but actually, I think it's really good to try those, have experience or see what you like I think having a job in a restaurant having a person facing job

is really great 100% I think every one of the interactions you're learning every single one stuff's going in you probably watch further ahead than you think you are

but also I'm with you like it was don't worry too much about the parents there's loads of time yeah no 100% it's just I don't know I just feel like with lads my age the real is there genuinely is

there's so much pressure on you need to do this you need this you need a house and kids by the time you're 25 now do you think it's a different if you're a 22 year old woman does there any difference in your opinion would in in my personal opinion i'd say there's a lot more leeway well that's is like girls my age sorry like they're all either dentists or beauticians like like genuinely like they left school and went straight in the beauty like they had something to go straight into and then well lads like i mean me i dad didn't get any jses at all Not one?

Not a single one. Did you turn up? I missed one of them. So you're in the exam hall? What did he write down? Like nothing from? Were you trying at all? No.

Not in the slightest. Do you think if you did try it would have been different? 110% because all the teachers used to say you've got so much potential you just don't use it. So I feel like the main reason was with the JCSS in school for me personally it was, I'm just staying this stupid test. Like you don't realize the actual importance of it for when you leave school. When did that moment, so you're 5 for 15, when did that, what tips you over the edge back into being a whatever, you know, a... Just, I think it was, I think generally my mom. Like, I'm having these arguments with me mom more or less every day and it's getting absolutely nowhere.

She's riled up and stressed when she doesn't need to be. And it's stressing me and I'm, like, what I'm stressing her, for any reason. Was there any kind of flip moments? You're like, it dawned on you that I didn't do. There was police involved when I was younger. that was doing stuff, obviously, I shouldn't have been doing. And my mom had caught wind of it and then rang the police.

Like, the police picked us up and took us to the station. And then that was when I was like, oh, this is actually real. Like, I cannot do this. Like, this is not okay. Can I ask you what you're doing? It was, so I was younger. I'm very easily influenced by other people. So it was, oh, do you want to take this drug?

Aye, go on, then, I go on, then. And then I take it, go back home, and I'm off my face. And my man sees, is obviously panics, because she doesn't know what I've talked. I don't know what I've took. I just took it. Yeah, yeah. He's so good. So then I'm rocking up at home.

I, like, nah, literally. And then she rang my dad at the time. And my dad came down and I remember my dad raggling as about. Like, my dad's six foot seven. Like, he's, like, built like a brick shit house. Like, he's huge. The next time something had happened,

I can't remember off the top of my head exactly. And my mom had rang me dad, and my dad went, look, I'm not going to shout at you. Because I get to know where. He went, I'm going to sit and talk to you how my dad taught to me. and he went, and it's going to sink in your head ten times more.

And I'll never forget the conversation ever, sat around these circular kitchen table, just me and him. He went, if you're going to keep on doing this, you're not going to be living with your mom. You can stay with me. And he knew that I didn't want to stay with him. Like, it's just, it's facts. But that conversation was like a switch straight away. It was like, I'm more scared that you've just sat and taught to us

rather than you're sitting and shouting at us. Because if you were sitting and shouting at us, I would have shouted back, so I didn't care. But then he sat and talked about it. I thought there was and I was like, ooh shit, like this is real, like this is serious. So he did a good bit of parenting there? Yeah, 100% yeah. But you gave the impression just earlier in the conversation that he wasn't that,

yeah, he didn't mean that I did. From what I remember and from what I remember my mom saying, he'd left me, my mom when I was about three. So then it was just me and my mom. And it was that's why I took all my anger around my mom, because I always blame my mom first. I was like, it's your fault. And I look back at it now and I just think, what are you doing? But then I was only a kid. and I didn't have a Scooby-Doo.

Yes. Have you ever told your dad, have you ever said, like, I wish you were around more? No, genuinely, I haven't. Because I feel like, I just feel like it's not going to change anything in any way.

Like, it'll probably be a massive weight off my shoulders, to be honest, more than anything. But it's just, it's, we're both accepted, like, but that's,

our relationship now is we're still texting that, like, all the time. We go to the pitchers every now and then. So that's a pub? The pitchers. Oh, so, sorry. Oh, no, no, no, sorry. At the pitch house.

Sorry. Oh, no. The pictures, sorry. The cinema, the pictures. See, obviously, you go to the pictures. Yeah, we'll go every now and then, we'll go on next week. That's sweet. I mean, look, I don't want to make your life harder.

No, definitely not. But, like, how old's your dad? 40. 40? Yeah. I'm going to be 14 in a few months. Yeah. That's a weird thing.

I feel like I'm more on your side than your dad's side. Yeah, yeah. But it's weird to think, really weird to think. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, there's still so much time ahead, all being well with your dad. Yeah. Just because it has been one way.

Like, doesn't mean it can't be the best it can, like could be, right? Yeah, yeah, no. Obviously, it seems that you get on, it seems like a house on player. Yeah, so that's lovely. Like, my dad's part of the street with accents, like we'll sit and do Colin McGreg accents

for like 20 minutes and then forget, like, how we actually speak. Right? It's, man. Like, whenever I'm with him, it's always, I'll forget everything that's going on and it's just me and him and we're always in tears by the end of the day,

like, just laughing. Like, it's good vibes, it is really good vibes. But I think he would, I think also he would take it is like a kind of, yeah, just me just guessing, but as a sign of, like, of your maturity.

Yeah, yeah. I'm not saying, do this, I'm not saying maybe when you're, obviously, when you're ready, I'm not doing this tomorrow. But like, you know, the fact that you feel that he wasn't there and you feel a bit of hard done by

in that respect. and like that's something that's clearly like on you and you've lived through you know I think he would appreciate you just like you just take him inside of you a lot I feel like I'm old enough now to say it was a big thing that was missing I just want you to know how I feel about that

yeah 100% and like you know he would have his own things to say and then you might have a little conversation about it but then you'd be more free to have a good relationship it's probably worth it it is and genuinely is where we say you do go to the pitch with the oh yeah that was it

I wanted to ask about the football the football oh no always wanted to do your accents yeah I feel like you're talking a good game you're talking to Gordon Ramsey you know and like we can't not hear Gordon Ramsey I do go right I do a good Gordon Ramsey but it's swear enough that every sentence that's okay this this is this is a swear for his own No, so it was to swear.

Oh, is it explicit, isn't it? Ah, yeah. So it needs it. People don't know who's bed to you. Ah, you're right. So I've got, there's a one where you get something on Hell's Kitchen, race. There we go. Don't worry, look.

If this doesn't work, it's okay. No, right, you go. You're safe space. He gets his fish over. He goes, oh, what does he see his man? Right, he gets his fish and he goes, fuck me. Mary, come here. Come here, will you?

Mary, fuck me. Look. Look, look at the. this fish. It's so raw. It's telling SpongeBob to fuck off. Fuck me. And then he smashes the fish with his hand.

That was really good. See, fun you. That was genuinely good. You know, I expected it to be all right. I thought if he's got the confidence of this as much his mate, it's got to be okay. That was a good, that was a solid nine, nine, dad. Yeah, that was like not far off.

I'll take a nine all day for Gordon. So I feel like me, me David, I'm right one's the best, you know. Come on, man. Oh, mate, class. Right, too, we're doing quite a wait here, right? Try to see the look at the wilderness, yeah. Yeah, try and, if you can see the bit of wilderness,

we can see, try and describe. Just throw the gap in the cause, there, isn't it? Right, too, go up. As we can see, we have a seagull flying in the sky. We have the waves from the ocean, very blue, very, very vibrant colours. I see, you know, that I mean? My David one's my best one.

I'm holding that one. He's about to be 100 as well. Ah, nah. Mad. What a guy, man. Honestly, legend. I'm glad I can do his accent as well. I can just keep his legacy going.

I'll be the new narrator. You're never going to die, David. I'll be the new narrator up on BBC. So, football time. Am I right in thinking, like, if you're from Newcastle, like, everybody loves Newcastle, you just have to have to know the football team? If you're born in Newcastle,

I feel like it's inevitable it's going to get instilled in you that yeah yeah so what does like the team mean to you generally genuinely

like it sounds do you have to say this though I'm for like this is that North Korea or something you don't mean like I've been programmed if you were kind of

could you legit say to me I'm not that bothered and your mate's heard it they would kill you know what I mean yeah oh no I am really but you are really

football is like me now it's When I'm watching the football, the football's on, I'm a totally different person. Going mad. Like,

oh, I'm very serious. Oh, oh, you're, okay, yeah, yeah. It was very still. But it's like, football to me, personally, is everything.

Like, I'm genuinely not even seeing it, see it, like, being brought up, I remember having Newcastle box set, DVDs, DVDs,

that's how long ago it was. There was one time I was there, a ball boy for our Newcastle match. It was when we still had Coluccini in Gutierrez. where I'm playing wolves, and I remember my dad recorded the match on his sky. He's still got it on his sky at this day.

Because there's one clip where it pans, right? It pans to Gutierrez on the sideline, and there's me just sat there. And like a good trench court, Newcastle trench court, just sat there. We still got it on his skybox. I know. But I love me. I love for football, me. I love the phrase, it pans to Gutierrez.

It's a great one. It's a great player. Yeah, it's lush. So can you think of the most emotional you've been watching a football match? The Carverbal Cup final. Okay, so were you, were you in the stadium? No, I was just in a fan zone.

You went down just to literally, because people listening, yeah. A, they might not be a football fan. B, they might know about football but not even know about this. Okay, so let's give a bit of a rundown of the situation.

So Newcastle, your team, the team you're passionate about, they haven't won anything for a long time. They've got a cup final playing Liverpool in London in Wembley yeah yeah because you must be dedicated then because you've gone down not to be in the stadium

just to be near them yeah 100% talk me through that that occasion so we'd booked the travelage right but the travelage I booked was right the total of the side of London so I had to get like a £40 pound taxi to the fan zone takes out the fan zone

he's only took out of the Liverpool fan zone so me and my friends stood outside Newcastle Tops loads of Liverpool fans walking about where like oh shit like we're done for here rang another taxi can you take with a new castle fan zone right took around and it's just literally a mob of just black and white shirt everywhere up and down the whole street and then we'd finally got in because we're 20 minutes late and you literally like shoulder to shoulder like you're scrunching your shoulders or trying to get past people and then it's just the massive monitor at the front and everyone's standing on chairs and

when we scored it was just carnage there's pints everywhere it's like a waterfall coming out I honestly it's a lot of money going out for the air. Oh, mate. And then that's one of their moments where everyone loves everyone. All Jordies. And we're all together. And everyone, like, you feel more like warmer because you're speaking to a Jordy sort of thing. Like, in a place where you don't really know.

It was just, honestly, the vibes were unbelievable. It was immense. One of the great moments of your life? 100%. It's something I'll tell me my kids, like, and my grandkids. And you cried at the end? And you cried at the end. As soon as that final whistle went.

What I works, mate. How long were you growing for? A solid 15 minutes. Oh, wow. And then the celebration started and then that's when I started getting like, yes, like yes, fucking go on. When you were doing your 15 minutes of crying?

Which is really sweet, by that. It's beautiful. Were you just like crying on a friend's shoulder? Were you in the corner somewhere? Were you on the toilet? It was like long like booths. Sort of like bench, table, bench. Got it.

So I'm just sat there, me head of my hands out. And my mate, mate. mate like I felt his hand on me back and he's like he arreys no I'm not arre I'm not ary no just continued crying for another 10 minutes but it was honestly man it was unreal do you think you were crying because there's so much yeah I mean they may this is a bit to get too deep here but like if you think can you think of the reasons why you were crying for so lot like you really think about it what are they probably everything that I had built up for ages then saying that was like

Happy tears, obviously, and then sad tears at the same time. Do you mean it build up in terms of just like in your life? Yeah, just like just like, yeah, just like different emotions, but it would have just been everything piled up. And then saying that and saying everyone around was so happy. And like my dad, my dad's never seen a trophy lifted. My grander's never seen a Newcastle lifted trophy. And I'm like, they've never seen this.

And I'll get to say it in my lifetime. Like it just, it felt so surreal. And it, oh, honestly, it was like something out with Disney film. How long did that highlight? Oh, solid 3, 4 years. We didn't, we got to London on the Friday and we didn't go home until the Wednesday. Oh, amazing.

Yeah, I just stayed and just partied for like three days straight. It was the best time in my life. That's incredible. Favorite Newcastle player while we're here? Of all time? Yeah, I mean, still, Joe Linton. All time I've got to see a Shira. I mean, again, is that a North Korea moment, though?

You don't have to say Shira. You don't have to say Shira. It's got to be Shira for me, Purs. like me growing up I got her from my dad like Shira, Shira this. And then I've got Shira and it's a mad shout but Colaccini just because of his mad hair and there was a mad song about him as well. Did he heard the song? No, it, what's the song?

Oh Coluccini, you're the love of me life for Colettini I'd let you shag me way for Colettini. Ah, football songs, good on football songs. Talk to me about, we mentioned it earlier a bit, about crying. Yeah. You say you cry quite happily, quite readily. I cry a lot. Have that always been the case and like, have you, you know, obviously the classic is, you know, the lads don't cry, you know, we're not supposed to cry, all that kind of stuff like I.

How have you always been comfortable with crying? Yeah, 100%. Like, I feel like part of that reason is being raised by a single mom. Like I've seen her at our lowest and I seen her at our lowest and I seen her. are at our highest. Like, I'll cry, happy tears, quite sad. I never keep my emotions in. Like, if I need someone to talk to,

I've got my mates. I don't talk to my mom about, like, personal stuff. I never, never do, never have. I just don't feel comfortable doing it. I'll always go to the boys straight away. Or, like, if I'm feeling, like, really down, really down, I'll probably speak to my dad, to be honest. So you can cry, but you feel like you can cry in front of?

Yeah, I don't care how I cry in front of. if you don't like seeing us cry, you're a horrible person. Yeah. Like, can you agree? I remember when I was young and me and my mum were in the old house. I was watching the film and I just grabbed a little cushion off the sofa and I held it up in my face. I was like, cry my eyes out.

And then I looked at her and she was crying. I know who I get it from now then. But like just look like films, like I sit and cry. Oh, if I watch a TikTok, I sit and cry at a TikTok. I'm like, it's a fucking two-minute video and I'm bawling my eyes out. That's the power of community. isn't it? Exactly.

Are you on TikTok yourself? I am, I. What kind of things do you post? Do you post? No, I don't post, nah. I'm a serial repost. You should do your own. Do you know what?

No, you could do it? I mean, you've got a bouncy character. I do, but I don't know, like, I don't know what content. Talk about football. I, true. I feel like if I've just been myself, like, if I've done a day in the life of Michelangelo. Give Bob Michaelangelo. You should do it?

You should do it? Yeah, do know what it is? This might be in my calling. into doing actually so if I'm not bothered about crying I can't be bothered about the TikTok. Cry on TikTok. Do you know what is that? I'm genuinely probably would.

I know. Mental. Mental. Mental. It's a belt alas. You've got a really engaging personality. You know, I think you would be a good bet. Give yourself a chance.

Alah, Anna, especially in Newcastle as well. I feel like you don't like you don't. you don't really get many Newcastle Jordy content creators You can do this I mean I know quite a lot of content creative people Yeah

You know if you do one and send it to me I'll be happy to send it on Oh me 100% I'm left too You know so maybe I could be a gay Yes man oh what about her Do you want to know how many followers I've got on TikTok I guess Ooh

I'd say 200,000 More More on TikTok Three more five keep going a mill Get going, man Shut up man A mill and a half

1.7 mate Last time I said I haven't posted you for like three years though What? Because it was about to paint That's March at last That's blew me mind yeah I didn't even know I'm sat next to you yeah do I You just that nice to a guy

Ah yeah very true very true That's another guy. I think it's that nice to you. Yeah, you should do it. Ah, you know, you might open the path. I think there's something there. I need somebody try it with. What I'm going to do, I'm going to ask you three more questions.

I'm going to leave you alone. Yeah, yeah, of course. Do you want a heavy question? Heavy is 10, light is one. Right. What do you want? Give me a number. Oh, straight in there.

Straight in there with the heaviest. Of course. If I ask you what you think was the toughest day of your life, can you think of what it might have been? Ooh. That's suitably heavy, isn't it? That is very heavy. You literally ask for it.

It's a fucking good question of me. Toughest day of my life? Oh, I need to go into the vault for this, I think. Probably right, and I'm going to go really deep. I wouldn't say necessarily tough. Can I change tough or sad? Yeah. When I was younger, from what I was explained,

when I was a bit of a knobhead, there was a time where my mom had a massive argument, and it was sort of along the lines of, I hate you, and I wish you weren't my mom. And I was launching toys on her from the top of the stairs, and she was come running up, like, bear-hugged as the stoppers, and then I've hit her,

and then, like, her lad at the time just come running up the stairs, what you're done, what you're done. And then I've looked at my mom, my mom's holding her face, crying our eyes out and then I look back and thinking it now and it makes us

I actually want a person it's yours but I'm like why, like how I don't get how I was such like such a horrible person no like I don't

I don't get why I was wired that way but the thing is you know you clearly weren't a horrible person you know the thing about all behaviours they all come from somewhere

you know no one wakes up and wants to be a horrible person right so just going off what you've told me already there are probably emotions and communication and feelings you didn't know how to express and so they came out in other ways

that's just what happens if you don't know where to channel your anger and your feeling it will come up in the nearest possible person the closest person will be a punchback Yeah true you know Because it's like that's the safest bet Is to hit your mum

It's the safest bet you know And also you didn't you know You hit her as a small child I didn't hear it last week. Yeah, oh, mate, no, that was a dose. So it's like, it's a horrible thing to have happened, but it's not, you know, you were never horrible. You just, you know, you just didn't have the avenues to express yourself.

Yeah. I just wish I could have been better for my mom when I was younger. Yeah. You're clearly a really good person now. Yeah. And what she'll care about is that you're all right. Yeah, yeah, 100%. You know, so what you can do for her now is to be all right.

Yeah. And, you know, like, you can make it good, you know? It sounds that you already are making it. I do honestly, like, now I couldn't think of nothing worse than arguing with my mum. You only get one ma'am? And I look back at an hour and I think I would be a shell of who I am now without my mom. And also, I mean, amazing, I've said she's done it at such a young age. By herself as well.

I mean, like, by herself and at a young age? I know. Mad, man. I don't know how she'd done it. Fair play to your mum. Without a doubt, she's an absolute soldier. Absolute soldier. Yeah.

I mean, I guess, do you, I mean, you ever talk about this stuff with your mum now? Is it? No, no, no. No. Well, both emotional at other things, but each other. Yeah. But I don't know, like, what would you, like, look, if she was, I mean, if she listened to the podcast, she will hear you say that. Right, true. But if he did say that to your mum, or you just told me.

Yeah. How do you think that would go? I mean, do you think she would actually like welcome you saying that? Oh, yeah. I think we'd both sit and cry for hours on end. Yeah. I don't know, look, I just think these kind of things happen when people get

ill or this kind of stuff. I just don't know. I just think with your dad, you know, you're saying it now, you've said it when I was you've said it when I was asking about it. Clearly, like, in your system. Yeah, yeah, 100%. It's holding you. I just think, like, your mum would be so proud to hear you be, like, really thoughtful.

You know, like, oh, genuine remorse for that moment and those times, there was also respect for what she's done. Yeah. Like, that would only be positive that she would hear you say that. Because famously with parents, right like the thing the classic is like soon as I have my kids you know like within days basically you're like oh my god I've now seen my mother in a totally different life

I totally I now realize like how hard this is not that long after my first child was born I was like mom actually thanks me yeah like a proper like you know genuine like this is really hard like thanks for doing this and she she was a single mom yeah so so it's like you know you don't know when this is going to be and you I mean you could tomorrow never promise. That's a thing that plays on the back of my head. That's it. That's a thing that plays on the back of my head.

That's it. That's your heavy question. Do you like one now? Yeah, how old. Now, I'd love one, mate. Let's get a light one in there. What is the most joyous sight you have seen recently, not on a screen? Could it be a passing thing, could it be a street, something in the street walking about.

It could be a small, doesn't that have to be like a big thing? It's, I feel like it's, it's, I feel like it is quite cliche. cliche but old couples when old couples come into work cliche at all right with one particular that's say about 70s they're in the 70s then you sit and get to talk with them

and they've been married for like 40, 50 year and they just go like what's the key and they just go just as long as you're happy with the other person and then but you just see how genuinely happy they're all like to be with another person like that and I'm like oh I did that just brings like it makes us feel you giddy in that

I'm like oh it's lush man That is lovely. That is always a lovely sight, isn't it? That is a beautiful sight. Let's do, because of you, our view here is quite funny, because we're like, we're basically got some cars, but through the gaps of the cars we can see the water. And then across the water we can see the favour South Shields slash where the Sand Dunes is there.

Are we going to get in trouble? If anyone, I'm not going to get a try, it's okay. No, that's how you're like, cancel that guy. No, no. That's just a slang term for people from social issues. So that's what we can see. I sometimes get people to describe what we can see, but we've kind of done that now.

Right. So we're going to do a sight different game. I'm going to ask you, and I'm going to do it to close eyes. You ready? I'm closing mine. You can close yours, whenever you want. You don't have to close yours yet, whenever you want. So what I'm going to get you to do,

is to think back to a scene in your life doesn't have to be like a big moment it just has to be a moment you can remember really well like meaning something you know it could be from any point in your life recent long time ago is there something that kind of comes into your head when I say that can you think of what that is?

The first one I'd say would probably be my first holiday with my mate and it just turned my birthday and my mum said, what do you want for your birthday? And I went, oh, I'd love to go on holiday. I'm trying to, right, I've booked you and your friend to go to Tenerife for seven days.

And I went, it's genuinely the happiest I've been in ages. I remember going and just being abroad and thinking, I'm by myself on my first holiday without my mom. I was like, what do I do? I feel like I've been tucked in the deep end. Fair enough, yeah, I'm with my friend. But I'm also by myself in a foreign country

without my right hand. so I just I didn't really know how to deal with it but the whole holiday was an absolute experience in itself like I had the best time and then it was I think without any shade on my friend the best part was coming back and seeing me ma'am so sweet 100% I'd miss my mum too much

seven days without my mum was too long were too long lovely lovely oh amazing how have you found the experience of talking to Australia on a bench You felt right? Absolutely amazing. I mean, you're a pro because you talked to change a little time. I know what it is?

It's been really refreshing. I'm glad I went out for a tab and I did. Otherwise, I would have never seen you. And that's an absolutely mental thought to me. That solidifies that everything happens for a reason. I've done, today I've done Whitley Bay. And I did the timeout. Then at time mouth, I was like, oh, should I go to South Shield?

Should I not? Should I go to North Shield? I was like, on the fence. Oh. came here, not running people on benches, nothing much is happening. And then you're like, where do I go now? Like, you know, it's a bit windy.

Should I now go South Wales, but will people be sitting on the benches to South Wales? And so I was like, oh, you know, and I'm doing. So basically, I'm running, I'm not know what I'm doing. Certainly, I'm wasting time thinking about, I'm not making a decision. And so I just thought, I'll walk down there towards the ferry. Happy days?

And then see you. No, I was. I mean, It's a lot to think about in a way, but it's like it's layers of miracle. Yeah, oh, me, 100%. You know. Because like, you know, whoever you was,

your person could have said, you're not allowed that. Aye, aye, you know. She's lush, no, she's lush, you know. Because I went in, I was like, so I've been asked to do this, like, this podcast. I was like, I can promote the business,

though. She was like, yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, we've got to mention it. It's a Dodgings yard on the fish key. And we do drink and we do the best food on the whole of the fish key. I promise you. Fantastic.

It will not let you down. Best dish. Best dish. For me, personally, cotton chips. It's the crispiest, goldest batter. Like, honestly,

me, oh, me mouth's watering, and think of it. And we've got massive homemade chunky chips. Or if you don't want the homemade chunky chips, you can't get fries.

It comes of a cider mushy peas and tartar sauce. You know what I mean? Genuinely is the best fish and chips I've had in 22 years on this planet. Love it. You've done very well,

there. I have. Get that on TikTok as well. I know. Do a little. TikTok, do a little. That can be your first. So big it up on TV.

Great. Yeah. Well, mate, it's so nice to talk to you. It has, you too. I've had an absolute pleasure. Being a privilege and an honor. Right, I appreciate this. You too, miss.

What do we do to end it? How do we end this? Oh, do you end it? Do you want to end it with an accent? Should I end up an accent? Which one? What do you want? Maybe let's, okay, let it be Attenborough, right?

Right. Okay, but do Dave Atterman and you're signing out of the program. This is your sign off, but for you sign off, But for this podcast. Right. And he's saying goodbye to the TV audience. Right.

You've now got to say goodbye to the podcast. For the podcast. Yeah. But in the atmosphere voice. Right. Good luck. Knee pressure. No, fuck me.

So today we've had a blast on the bench talking about life, talking about reality, with spectacular views and the DFDS ferry going from Newcastle to Amsterdam. But this is David Attenborough, signing off. And I will be back with you in the next episode. Thank you. What was he? I was good, that was good. It was good, down it.

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