Strict Scrutiny - The Lawlessness, Chaos, & Cruelty of Trump 2.0
Episode Date: February 3, 2025Melissa, Kate, and Leah continue to assess the fallout from the second Trump administration, including his blatant disregard of the law in firing many inspectors general. They also discuss the mental ...gymnastics required to blame Wednesday’s tragic plane crash on DEI, the repercussions of the administration's executive orders targeting trans people, and two crucial state supreme court races. Follow us on Instagram, Threads, and Bluesky
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Mr. Chief Justice, please report. It's an old joke, but when a man argues against two beautiful our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.
Hello and welcome back to Strixx Hurtiny, your podcast about the Supreme Court and the
legal culture that surrounds it. We're your hosts. I'm Melissa Murray.
I'm Leah Litman.
And I'm Kate Shaw. The Supreme Court is on recess this week. The White House, regrettably,
is not. So we are going to start this episode with some breaking news largely involving
the torrent of lawlessness, chaos, and cruelty
emanating from the nation's capital, Washington, D.C. Obviously, we will also cover the executive
order lowering the price of eggs. Just kidding. There has still been no executive order or
other executive action addressing the cost of basic goods despite the fact that we were
told that is what this administration would inaugurate. But why would they?
Lylea Larson And yet somehow the vibes or the price of eggs
apparently don't feel so high when
the leader of the free world is blaming black people, women,
and people with disabilities for all of the world's problems.
Maybe that's the executive action on eggs that we've all
been waiting for.
But after we survey whatever is happening at 1600,
we are also going to check in on two different state courts,
the continuing saga that involves North Carolina judge
Jefferson Griffin's twirl villain mustache here, refusal
to acknowledge his loss to Justice Allison Riggs
on the North Carolina Supreme Court.
We will also talk about the fast approaching election
for a crucial pivotal seat on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
First, the fire hydrant of news from DC.
And I say fire hydrant and not fire hose
because literally this administration is
taking a dump on all of us.
This week, the chaos and cruelty were ratcheted up way up
beyond what previous American democracy
dials could have registered.
So we will walk through some of that.
And because the administration is definitely pursuing the Steve Bannon, Steve Miller,
flood the zone with absolute bullshit strategy, we probably won't be able to cover everything
that they've done or certainly we won't be able to cover everything in the amount of detail that
we'd like. But we will get through as much as possible. So let's dive right in. First up,
we have had not one, not two, but by my count, three
different symbolic massacres since we last gathered. So you've perhaps heard of Richard
Nixon's 1973 Saturday Night Massacre in which Nixon directed Justice Department leadership
to fire special prosecutor Archibald Cox because Cox was getting uncomfortably close to the
truth about Watergate and the president's involvement in the cover-up. So the top two officials at DOJ resigned rather than carry out what they believe to be an
unlawful order from the president because that's what government officials of conscience
of whatever political stripe or party used to do.
Well, last week Trump said, hold my diet coke and began filling out the other days of the
week with his own massacres.
Just across many different fronts, this administration
is truly truly committed to making Richard Nixon great again. Of course it began with
if the president does it, it's not illegal immunity ruling and it has snowballed way beyond that as
we are about to cover. So first iteration on a Friday night, Trump sent messages asserting
without legal authority, because who needs law anyways, that he was firing many of the inspectors general
in the federal government. Inspectors general or IGs are important federal
government watchdogs who look for waste, fraud, abuse, and also protect whistleblowers.
So obviously this administration wants to show them the door, give them the
heisman, even though some of the inspectors general in question were people Trump himself appointed the last
time he was in office, which really shows you right? Like how much escalation I think
there has been between Trump 1.0 and 2.0.
Because that was a squish and this is the real hardcore version. No, that's basically
what he was communicating or he just like didn't notice or care and was like, all the edgies, I want them out.
Except, interestingly, there were some exceptions.
Like Michael Horowitz at DOJ,
for reasons I still don't think we know was not on the list,
although maybe there's a second batch coming.
They wanted, you know, sort of spread the deeds out
over different days of the week.
There are only five working days, Kate.
But anyway, the other two are for golf.
Yes, true, true.
So just to underscore something that Leah just said, to be crystal clear, the law very
clearly does not permit these firings in this way.
One of the many post-Watergate reform laws, like we're definitely talking about Nixon
and Watergate a lot today and probably for years.
So one of these laws was passed in the late 70s and amended since then, but it creates
these positions, inspectors general,
and it does let the president remove IGs. But the president is required to notify Congress
30 days in advance. And this is for good reason, like to protect any investigations the IGs
may be in the middle of, and it also gives Congress the chance to object to the removal
of an IG if Congress thinks the removal is not on the up and up.
But shockingly, Trump did not adhere to this procedure. So my view for what it is worth
is that by law these IGs still have their jobs. The head of the IG council, an organization
called SIGI, sent a letter saying as much late Friday and some of the IGs in the fired
batch actually seem to have agreed and refused to vacate their offices. At least one IG of
the Ag department was subsequently escorted out of her office by security after she
refused to leave. And even though I think she was right on the law and so was the
CIGI head, unfortunately the short-term resolution to this kind of legal
standoff often turns on who is armed, which is obviously the security guards in
this instance. But for, again, what it is worth, I think if one or more of these
IGs wants to fight this out in court court I give them good odds even in front of this Supreme Court because they're not the president's not actually prevented from firing them
He just has to take some steps first and even that was too much for Trump
It's like the DACA case like you could do this
You just have to follow the right procedures and they never follow the right procedures
So I am glad to hear you think Kate that the IGs have good odds in front of this court.
Obviously, I agree that this statute
is less restrictive of the president's ability
to remove executive branch officers than the kinds
the court has struck down recently,
like in sale of law and free enterprise fund.
Those actually limited the substantive bases
that the president could remove these officers.
But I will note that two things are kind of giving me pause
here, really three things.
One is I have seen some smart, right-leaning commentators,
Jack Goldsmith among them, say he thinks this court would not
rule for the IGs and would probably strike down this law.
Also, that's just one predictive piece of evidence.
And then second is, if you take their unitary executive bullshit seriously, then why could
Congress impede the executive's ability to execute the law as they see fit by removing
these officers?
Obviously, I totally agree the extent of the burdens are different and different in kind.
But if you are a full blown unitary executive, whatever,
who knows?
And then the third thing that, and I
feel like I'm going to keep coming back to this,
is I'm just very concerned about what
this Trump victory and a Republican Senate
and Republican House mean for this court.
Because I worry it means the Republican appointees will
feel less constrained and less bound by public opinion House mean for this court? Because I worry it means the Republican appointees will feel
less constrained and less bound by public opinion and politics and political pushback
and more emboldened to let their free flags fly and just do whatever moves them because
they don't think they will face consequences for doing that. And so all of that makes me
a little nervous. I don't know.
I have used the IG example for years as, you know, a modest kind of constraint that Congress can place on the president.
Congress places qualification requirements like the FAA administrator is supposed to be knowledgeable.
A real world road rules contestant?
That's not the FAA. That's the Secretary of Transportation.
Of course. My bad. My bad.
Polly Shore is being confirmed to FAA.
How about DJ Polly D?
DJ Polly D.
So anyway, so these front end qualifications Congress
has put in for hundreds of positions
and these occasional back end modest requirements,
procedural ones the president has to follow,
while still getting to fire whomever he pleases,
at least in these kinds of positions.
And I don't think until recently that was controversial.
And for what it's worth, I think that Goldsmith,
who wrote this piece in lawfare about this, is wrong.
But my prediction is nevertheless
probably still too optimistic.
What if the president just really needs to get rid
of the woke deep state Kate?
He can't, he can't.
No, those 30 days.
No, she can't.
Those 30 days, right?
Like, not.
Okay, as much as I would love for you two ladies
to debate Cape's optimism versus a real world view of things,
as much as I'd love to hear more about the deep state versus
the sheep state, this does feel a little bit
like a sheep state with all these guys just falling
into line.
But there's more news.
So in addition to all of that, Trump
illegally fired several other executive officers as well.
And he did so in a way that seems
designed to provoke a test case that
would allow the Supreme Court to revisit the constitutionality
of independent agencies.
Yes, this is a question that we have
talked about on this podcast a lot over the last couple
of years.
And they haven't broken through, but this
may be the opportunity.
So what did he do?
Donald Trump fired the National Labor Relations board member, Gwynne Wilcox.
And as you know, despite board members having statutory removal protection, he took this
extraordinary step anyway.
What this means is that the NLRB no longer has a quorum and accordingly the agency can
no longer do its work.
And what is its work?
Its work is enforcing labor laws,
because obviously this election was all about working people,
workers, the rights of workers, and all of those union
leaders who are all in line for Donald Trump.
I hope you feel really supported now,
because this is what supporting labor looks
like under this administration.
Congratulations.
This is an awful development if you
care at all about the labor laws of this country being enforced.
And the NLRB, like many boards and commissions,
must by law be bipartisan.
So the Democratic board members are technically
appointed by the president, but by tradition,
those names come from the other parties.
So for example, in the Obama White House, you know, they got the names from Mitch McConnell, but Trump doesn't
care about those traditions. And it's not hard to imagine him just never filling those
vacancies. Or maybe those bipartisanship requirements are unconstitutional as well.
I really look forward to the jackals. Because unitary executive theory, right? Like the
executive branch is Republican for all time. And so
Democrats don't get to propose executive branch nominees.
Nope. QED.
Yeah. So that seems like where we may be headed with respect to these bipartisanship requirements.
But as to this particular instance, beyond just the NLRB's inability to do its important
work in the absence of a quorum, it's clear that on existing law, the statutes passed by Congress
and not invalidated by the Supreme Court,
this firing is ill-reported. Stop talking nonsense.
Stop.
Why do you keep talking about the law?
I'm going to keep doing it, and I will tell our listeners.
Kate with another hashtag take.
Hot take from Kate.
My hot take is the law says the president
has to give some reasons, if I remember of
the NLRB, I know.
We need to make this a recurring segment, like Kate's hot take.
Kate in the law.
I just like Kate's hot take.
I'll do it.
I'm happy.
You can have me eat some hot vegan wings maybe while I do it.
Hot ones with Kate.
Love it.
I think we need to think through how to do this.
But anyway, I am going to press on and
remind people that that's the law. The Supreme Court's conservatives have been gunning for
an opportunity to overrule the precedent that says it's okay to constrain the president's
ability to remove members of these boards and commissions. So that case they're gunning
for is the 1935 decision, Humphrey's executor. And this might be the actual vehicle
for the court overruling that case. And I'm gonna, I don't know, disappoint you guys by
suggesting here I'm not gonna make an optimistic prediction about Humphrey's executor surviving.
So I think, you know, it's a question of whether the commissioner, Wilcox, who has said she
will challenge her firing actually proceeds with it. And if so, we are, I think, very
likely looking at the demise of one of the last real internal checks
on the president, which couldn't come at a better time.
So there we are.
In addition to all that, there's more.
Donald Trump also fired two EEOC commissioners.
And the EEOC is the Equal Employment Opportunity
Commission and is basically charged
with administering all of the laws that
deal with fair employment.
Trump also got rid of officers at the Privacy
and Civil Liberties Oversight Board.
That is an arm of the federal government
that is charged with, among other things, safeguarding
data privacy.
And obviously, this is an administration
that cares a lot about your data privacy, CEG, the TikTok ban.
In taking these steps, the Trump administration
denied the EEOC a quorum.
So as with the NLRB, they can no longer
do things, including voting on any of the issues that
come before them.
And that, too, is bad for workers in many respects.
But maybe not so bad, because the new EEOC acting chair
has recently announced that instead of dealing
with all of the different things that come before this particular commission, the EEOC is now going to be focused on whether
or not private businesses allow trans people to use bathrooms that correspond to their
gender identity. That is now the commission's top priority. So on balance, maybe net zero.
See, now you're looking for silver linings, Melissa.
We're really looking for silver linings here.
I am.
I am.
I am.
All right.
So just to finish rounding out the list of massacres that we alluded to up front, so
on Monday, the White House sent an email that purported, also in clear violation of the
civil service laws, to fire a dozen plus members of Jack Smith's team.
The letter, as I read it, just throws some
like vaguely law-like language atop the claim. I have an article too. It says, I get to do
what I want. And then says, I can't trust you to carry out my policy priorities, so
you're out. And, you know, these were civil servants. They have statutory protections
against being removed in a fit of presidential peak. So we will once again see if one of
them brings a challenge.
I mean, just as to all of these developments, I have to say I'm sure you guys have had similar
conversations in the last week, but I've heard multiple former DOJ officials basically say
this was the worst day or the worst week in the department's history. Just like I don't
think we can overstate how devastating and disruptive these moves, and in particular
just the summary firing of all of these career prosecutors were to kind of the
Morale inside that operation and obviously that's the point and these were people who worked for Jeff Sessions. So they've seen some things
And the toilet bowl
So don't forget him portrait is still hanging there and who knows And who knows? He may be back in the next quarter month.
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There are even more DOJ developments we wanted to note that again speak to just how quickly
they are unraveling this major institution
of American governance. So the department moved to drop the special counsel's cases against Trump
allies Walt Nata and Carlos de Oliveira, which were of course related to the obstruction of justice
unlawful retention of classified documents slash America's secrets in Mar-a-Lago Bathrooms case out of Florida.
Yeah, that one.
And then also, the person who is in charge
of prosecuting public corruption resigned,
which is great because there's definitely
no corruption going on right now in front of our eyes.
So I just wanted to mention a few examples of things that
are definitely like not corrupt and don't come anywhere close to corruption.
One is Facebook slash Metta settling a lawsuit against Donald Trump. You know
Trump sued Facebook slash Metta when he was deplatformed and they agreed to pay
him 25 million dollars even though it's clear, pretty clear, the lawsuit is meritless.
So this seems kind of like a freebie.
And that's not the tip.
Right.
It's a tip, Leah.
It's a gratuity.
A gratuity.
Right.
And that's apparently not the only example of entities thinking about settling suits
in ways that seem like windfalls for Trump.
So the New York Times
reported that Paramount is in talks to settle a $10 billion lawsuit Trump filed against
CBS for how 60 Minutes edited Kamala Harris's interview. If you want to talk about a meritless
lawsuit, Taylor Sheridan would never. Sullying the Paramount name right there.
But again, this seems like a mechanism
to basically funnel payments to the president
to make him happy.
And we are also seeing in real time.
Well, Paramount has some other stuff going on.
Exactly.
One of the things happening is that there
is a potential merger between Paramount and Skydance that obviously will have to be.
And whose approval do they need?
Ah.
Hmm.
The federal governments.
Interesting.
It seems like there's a connection.
No, can't be.
These things are totally unrelated.
This is just how government works.
People just exactly throw tens of millions of dollars
at government officials.
To settle meritless lawsuits about how
you edit an interview for which you likely have First Amendment
protection.
But no piggy.
Yes.
And this is also happening at the same time
that we are witnessing Elon Musk's very ever present role
in fairly significant personnel decisions
at the federal government.
And this, of course, is the person who poured tens of millions, right, just like substantial sums into electing
Donald Trump and seems to have purchased himself the role of being effective free leader of the
world slash co-president or varsity president, you know. And so all of that is happening. Again, at the same time, the head person
for public corruption at DOJ has decided, I'm out.
I have to say, just back to the Elon Musk thing,
I never thought I would find myself
on the same page as Steve Bannon.
But I, too, am a little uncomfortable with how much
South African influence is pervading this administration.
It's a little South African influence
that's sympathetic to the German far right, could go on here.
I mean, Bannon said it first, but I was like, oh, wow.
Are we on the same page?
We might be.
Interesting.
I just wanted to draw a parallel here
in the strange bedfellows allies thing,
because what this is showing is just
how absurd, outlandish, horrific it is to effectively put
one of the richest men in the planet
in control of the government after he's paid his way
to do that.
And he's basically throwing the public under the bus
and doing what he wants.
And this is
leading to a strange allyship between you, me, and Steve Bannon in the same way that like when the
Supreme Court inevitably knocks down one of the insane things out of this administration, it will
not speak to the reasonableness of the Supreme Court just like we are not here saying Steve Bannon, voice of reason. Right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
It is just a reflection of where the Trump administration is trying to move the goalpost
to.
Just how shark jumping all of this is.
Yes.
Back to Paramount for just one second.
There is something so insane about the president as plaintiff, right?
Just that he, the idea that
that's a law review article right there. Let's do it. Let's do it. That's it. But I mean,
the idea now this stuff is not going to end up in court because people are all bending
the knee and settling. Exactly. If the Supreme Court is going to invent a doctrine that ex-presidents
like can't ever be criminally prosecuted, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to
say they should also invent a doctrine that while you're the fucking president, you can't ever be criminally prosecuted, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say they should also invent a doctrine that while you're the fucking president,
you can't sue people.
No, no, no, no, no, no,
because that's exercising the executive power, Kate.
So, right, to like-
To shake down media companies.
Exactly.
Got it, okay.
All right, well, then I don't know.
Maybe we can't write the worldview article together
because I think we have a fundamentally different view
of how this works.
Well, no, we would just need to seriously consider that reasonable position in which there's
a deep debate in the literature about.
Okay, got it, got it.
And all we're really doing, we're not suggesting a path forward, we're just complicating the
inherited narrative.
Yes.
Right?
Sometimes, honestly, the new cycle makes me want to flee to those ridiculous tropes of
law review, of legal scholarship.
It just feels like a safer place to be right now.
Lit review and then complicating things.
Yes.
All right, but we've got to get back to the news cycle.
OK.
Back to the news.
OK, so we've been joking around that this is actually
really important and incredibly tragic.
We want to not only acknowledge but discuss
the devastating and tragic plane crash at Washington National
Airport last Wednesday. As many of
you know, a Black Hawk helicopter collided with a regional jet that was traveling from
Wichita, Kansas to Washington, D.C. And all 67 persons on board the helicopter and the
jet are presumed at this point, we're taping on Friday afternoon, to be dead. And this
is obviously a catastrophic event,
a massive national tragedy.
But what makes it worse is that we actually
don't know whether or not it was avoidable,
although the signs suggest that it likely was avoidable.
So here's what we do know.
In their first week in office, the Trump administration
moved very quickly to disassemble the civil service
and regulatory agencies, including many of those housed within the Department
of Transportation.
And that, of course, is the agency charged with airplane safety.
So just to walk through a few things.
On the first day of the Trump administration, the FAA, that's the Federal Aviation Administration,
the head of that administration, the FAA administrator, quit after Elon Musk told him to resign.
The administrator and Musk had butted heads over SpaceX many times before, including when
the FAA administrator proposed fines for rocket explosions.
And that's not all.
Within 48 hours of Trump taking office, he fired the heads of the Transportation Security
Administration, the TSA, and the head of the Coast Guard. He also eliminated all the members of a critical
aviation security advisory group, the Aviation Security Advisory Committee, which has, over
the last several decades, made recommendations for improving aviation security, the vast
majority of which have been implemented. And the memo firing committee members said the
firings were part of a quote, commitment to eliminating the misuse of resources
and ensuring that DHS activities prioritize
our national security, end quote.
Just time out here.
A lot of this stuff was implemented post 9-11
because a massive terrorism act was affected
through the use of airplanes that became targeted missiles. And this is
just mind blowing. I still remember all of the Republicans, like the law and order, secure
the homeland Republicans. How are they down for this? Like what happened?
Yeah. I mean, this overarching, just like insane monomaniacal commitment to downsizing
government, hollowing out the civil service, and destroying the regulatory state, like, may already be
yielding tragic life and death consequences, like, and maybe actually materialized on the evening of
this plane crash. So, again, facts still emerging, but an initial FAA report noted that air traffic
control staffing the night of the crash was, quote, unusual, and that a single air traffic controller
was handling both helicopters and planes when those jobs are
usually, and by design, performed
by two different people.
They also operate on two different radio systems.
So if there are two people monitoring them,
they can be on the two different systems.
But if one person is charged with dealing with both,
they have to toggle back and forth between them,
perhaps increasing the opportunity for error. So again, these are all of the things
that are going on at the Department of Transportation, but there's still more. So exactly one week before
this fatal crash, the Trump administration signed a presidential memo terminating the Biden
administration's FAA hiring policy. The Biden administration had tried to hire more air traffic controllers in order to ease
this manpower shortage and because of the increase in flight congestion at major airports.
The memo, which is entitled, President Donald J. Trump ends DEI madness and restores excellence
and safety within the FAA, basically associates the Biden administration's hiring policies with unchecked,
unmerited hiring of minorities and other individuals who fall under the broad and
continually shifting moniker of DEI, which obviously must be eliminated. So how exactly
does this great administration purport to restore excellence and safety to the FAA
once it's eliminated all of this hiring under DEI? Well first they appoint Sean
Duffy as Secretary of Transportation and if you don't know who Sean Duffy is, wait
for it. Duffy began his time in public life as a
member of the real world and we're not just talking about a sentient being
walking around in the world, though we actually mean MTV the real world. And we're not just talking about a sentient being walking around in the world. No, we actually mean MTV, the real world,
where you take eight strangers, put them in a house,
and see what happens.
But perhaps more relevant to his credentials
is Duffy's time as a contestant on the real world spinoff,
MTV's Road Rules.
What was this deeply meritocratic appointment
doing in the lead-up to this
tragic plane collision? He was issuing his own kind of DEI policy, I guess a
permissible kind. So a new Department of Transportation memo directs that the
Department of Transportation and Department of Transportation supported
programs will quote give preference to communities with marriage and birth
rates higher than
the national average, end quote.
Because if there's any way to hire the best people and ensure aviation and highway safety,
it's selecting for high marriage and birth rates?
What?
Like, this is some weird shit.
So newly installed in the role after the crash, Duffy did, I think, actually shed some real light on this
when he said, obviously it is not standard
to have aircraft collide.
I want to be clear on that.
So that was really helpful.
Clear.
For sure.
Message received, sir.
Knocked out first taken right out of the park.
Was Puck not available?
Was Puck not available for this position?
Do you know who Puck is?
I think he was like a villain on reality television early on.
Is that right?
That's about all I got.
You know, I personally would have gone with Johnny Bananas.
Or Survivor.
What was Puck on?
He was on the real world.
He was on the real world.
Yes.
All right.
Okay.
And of course, now leading the Department of Defense
is Pete Hegseth, another DEI hire, at least,
as we understand DEI.
And we explained it last episode,
which we won't repeat here.
The New York Times has reported that the Black Hawk helicopter
may have deviated from its planned course.
And what was Pete Hegseth doing during his first few days
on the job as
Secretary of Defense? Shoring up America's homeland. If by going on Fox
News to rant about DEI is shoring up America's homeland, then yes. Because and
this sets the stage for it what I think we also wanted to talk about which is
because there is truly no low to which this administration will not stoop, Trump in a press conference after the crash blamed the crash on, you guessed it, DEI.
When asked by a reporter how he knew diversity had something to do with the crash after saying the investigation was still ongoing, Trump said,
Because I have common sense.
OK. And unfortunately, a lot of people don't.
So maybe we should talk about what DEI means here.
And also, JD Vance's later extrapolation of this principle.
So when Trump is saying he's blaming DEI, he is blaming racial minorities,
women and people with disabilities
for the crash. Like it doesn't seem to matter who the air traffic controllers or pilots were.
Like this is the new all-purpose excuse for men's failure. Like it just cannot be white men's fault.
Basically this is the government version of Agatha all along. It was DEI all along. And
This is the government version of Agatha all along. It was DEI all along.
And JD Vance, I thought, just literally took this
to a whole new level, a really just gross, disgusting level.
So JD Vance, once it became clear
that the plane and the helicopter
were actually piloted by white men, had this to say.
Something the president said that I think bears re-emphasizing,
which is that when you don't have the best standards in who
you're hiring, it means on the one hand,
you're not getting the best people in government,
but on the other hand, it puts stresses on the people who
are already there.
I got nothing for this, like absolutely nothing.
It is not the case that he is saying having non-white men
in these positions.
It's what's causing it is that the existence of DEI
somehow kills the vibes of white men
and rubs them the wrong way.
It's just so hard to work with people of color and women
that you just forget how to do your job.
How does this plane work?
I don't know.
And obviously if in fact it was a person of color
who was the pilot in one of the instances,
like they would be, they would turn the dial up to DEF CON.
But even in the absence of that,
they think they have a theory, which is yes,
essentially the environment itself that might contain
lingering, you know, Biden hires who might not be white men
is somehow responsible. It is absolutely vile. So in this leadership vacuum that we're calling
the news cycle, someone stepped in to fill the void. So former Secretary of Transportation,
Pete Buttigieg had this response on Twitter. And we should say he does know what he's talking about because there were multiple
fatal air crashes on his watch when he was the Secretary of Transportation, right?
No.
No.
In fact, there were no fatal air crashes.
In fact, zero.
In fact, when?
And I would know because I'm literally paranoid and terrified of flying.
So when I saw this news, I literally became physically ill and started panicking about all of my upcoming flights. So
Buddha judge had this to say
Quote unquote despicable as families grieve Trump should be leading not lying
We put safety first drove down close calls grew air traffic control and had zero commercial airline crash fatalities out of millions of flights
on our watch boom
out of millions of flights on our watch. Boom.
President Trump now oversees the military and the FAA.
One of his first acts was to fire and suspend
some of the key personnel who helped keep our skies safe.
Time for the president to show actual leadership
and explain what he will do to prevent this from happening
again.
Buttigieg out.
And again, just to underscore, we
don't know what exactly was the cause of this crash yet,
but we do know it is racist, sexist, ableist to just insist without evidence that obviously
the problem is that the FAA didn't have enough straight white men or indeed had any women,
minorities or people with disabilities. So to return to Pete Buttigieg's statement, this was one of the rare statements from a
Democratic political official that actually tried to take the fight to Donald Trump.
I'm sorry, what is a Democrat?
Can you tell me again?
What is that?
I haven't heard of those recently.
I haven't heard from them if they exist.
Sometimes I get texts asking for money.
Asking me to chip in, yeah.
Yeah.
So the Democratic Party is a dependent.
Should I be claiming them on my tax forms?
Only if it's a fetus.
Right.
Fair.
Many thoughts about this.
One is Sean Duffy.
There were people calling for Democrats
to hold up his confirmation.
Because-
Because road rules.
Because road rules.
Not just because road rules,
but because of some of the things
the Trump administration was doing.
And Senator Schumer and others were like,
no, no, no, no, right?
Like, we're not gonna do that.
We're not gonna play hardball.
We're just gonna confirm him.
Why are they-
It's hard to democratic votes.
Like not only did they not obstruct it, most,
or I don't know, 70 plus people.
He had a huge overwhelming confirmation.
And it's insane.
For a road rules contestant.
This is not to apologize for in any sense the choices people
made in the 2024 election.
But Donald Trump, people report wanting to vote for him
because he pretends to be fighting against this system
and fighting for them.
And the Democratic Party is just constitutionally
incapable of doing that.
They will not stand up, do a politics,
and try to fight against a system that is failing people
because Donald Trump is literally handing over control of the federal
regulatory stage to Elon Musk, who wants to dismantle it.
And again, this is at the price of the public, public safety, public money, right?
They're stealing our money, stealing our safety, and the Democrats just cannot be bothered
to come up with a talking point or a fight about this.
And one more thing we wanted to flag about the crash. with a talking point or a fight about this and...
One more thing we wanted to flag about the crash.
We learned from friend of the pod, Sherrilyn Eiffel,
that the victims of this crash included
a young civil rights lawyer, Keia Duggins,
who had been a member of the Civil Rights Corps
and was slated to join the faculty of Howard Law School.
Our hearts go out to her friends and her family
and colleagues at Howard.
May her memory be a blessing.
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example of what Leah was just talking about, this idea of handing over control of the government
to unelected people like Elon Musk.
The Washington Post reports that the highest ranking career official at the Treasury Department
announced his plans to leave government. Apparently the official got into a dispute with Elon Musk and
his allies, quote, over access to sensitive payment systems, end quote. Musk's surrogates apparently
wanted access to a payment system that the government uses
to disperse trillions of dollars, to which the government official was like, seems like
a bad idea and said no, and this caused the dispute.
I mean, what on earth?
What is happening here?
Give Musk and his lackeys all of the federal government's bank account information and just trust us not to misuse it.
I mean, this is like literally when you get held up in a park and they're like, give me your ATM card.
Yes.
Only, yeah.
Only trillions and trillions of dollars.
Only trillions and trillions of dollars.
And all it marks.
Oh, it delays it delays the dollars and all it marks. Yep.
All right.
Well, so don't worry, there's lots more.
So related to what is happening at the FAA and DOT is the administration's announced,
I don't actually know what to call this, buyout slash maybe bait and switch non-buyout.
So I don't think we know- Public-private partnership.
We'll describe it rather than just parrot buyout.
So the Office of Personnel Management, the basically human resources agency for the whole
federal workforce, apparently in conjunction with or with the fingerprints of Doge, bro,
slash co-president, Elon Musk, kind of, you know, all over this initiative, sent to the
federal workforce, maybe all of it, maybe a subset, not totally clear, an email basically saying, if you resign by next week, you will get paid for eight
months or you can stick around and risk being furloughed and eventually fired. So you guys
will be shocked to hear me say this whole thing is legally due to this.
What's your hot take? What's your hot take?
How about this though? Law aside, it is just wildly counterproductive if you were trying to keep
talented people around to tell everyone to leave.
To pay them to leave.
Just go.
I mean, I guess if making government employment intolerable and letting attrition weed out
a lot of people is too slow, this is one alternative to just grind the capacity of government to
a halt immediately, but I'm
not sure how else to understand this effort, but in that spirit.
Someone was binging severance. It's okay. And you know, you're calling it buyout slash
non-buyout because it's not actually a buyout, right? If you looked closely at it, it was
like if you agree to resign, we'll maybe let you work remotely for the next few months,
but also your agency head could redeploy you anyways, so JK unclear.
But then there was some follow-up, like, kind of Q&A advice that seemed to say you definitely
will get to take the time to go get another job or take a vacation, but none of that remotely
is possible.
That's the public-private partnership.
And so definitely don't assume that that is actually the term that they are offering you
if you,
a federal employee, are listening. So moving on to other meshugas, we are only
now getting to what happened last Monday night when the federal government,
through an Office of Management and Budget memo from the acting director,
purported to pause trillions of dollars in government spending.
So federal grants and loans until they could be vetted
to be sure said grants and loans were not advancing
woke ideology, including because we are living
in the stupidest and deadliest timeline, quote,
Marxist equity, transgenderism,
and Green New Deal social engineering policies."
The memo was supposed to go into effect at 5 p.m. last Tuesday, but even before that
it was kind of in effect.
The portals in the states that process Medicaid payments were reportedly essentially taken
offline even though the administration initially said payments to individuals like Medicare
and Social Security wouldn't be affected, and it said also Medicaid wouldn't be affected.
But then the press secretary was like, actually, no,
I need to double check that.
I mean, just wild shit.
It's a small deal.
Medicaid either is or is not included.
But we'll find out and get back to you.
In any normal timeline, Congress might
have something to say about a blatant usurpation
of its authority.
But in this timeline, and we can just summarize all of this,
Manu Raju, who reported that a bunch of House Republicans this morning at the Doral talked
about this move to freeze federal aid. They were defending Donald Trump. This included the chairman
of the House Appropriations Committee who said he didn't have a problem with the White House decision
to pause the aid because that's probably what you ought to do when you're coming in as a new administration.
I'm not a lawyer. I can't pontificate on what's legal.
But then the piece de resistance of representative calls.
I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. Appropriations is not a law. It's a directive
of Congress.
It's a law. It's a directive of Congress.
This is like Rudy. It's a Valentine.
This is Rudy Giuliani irrational basis review.
The big one, irrational basis review.
Literally, the Constitution talks about appropriations
by law, but details.
Or directive.
Or directive, an instruction from Congress.
Basically, the people charged with exercising legislative authority are conceding that they
DGAF, let this president do what he wants, let the executive branch, like, you can just
roll all over them.
And that is what is happening.
Yeah.
So Congress doesn't necessarily appreciate this, but Congress should be able to see that
this directive does fly in the face of core constitutional allocation of authority principles.
Congress has the power to spend. The president gets to execute the law. There's also a statute
called the Impoundment Control Act and the Administrative Procedure Act. This question,
Kate, where was the part
that said the federal government gets
to hand over trillions of dollars to Elon Musk
in disbursements?
That was a different act?
No, that's right.
No, it's not my act.
Actually, it's Amendment 28, which
was the equal rights for Elon Amendment.
Great.
Sorry, OK, it's more agreeable.
Did anyone also have real Youngstown vibes?
I mean, what a time to teach common law.
I literally just finished teaching Youngstown.
And were you able to do it?
Were you able to put your heart into teaching it
if Congress says you can't do it?
That means you can't, President?
Or did you just lay down in the fetal position on the podium?
Because I need advice for next week, seriously.
I gave my students an excerpt of the OLC memo that was like,
the president doesn't have unilateral
Emboundment authority and doing the inherent presidential authority analysis
So that was the approach that I took
Or the fetal position
Why not both right?
There are still some lower federal courts that do still dwell in the reality
that is bounded by the Constitution, the Supreme Court's articulation of the basic principles
contained in it in cases like Youngstown. And in that world, a district judge stayed
this order on Tuesday afternoon in response to a complaint filed by a bunch of service
providers who are beneficiaries of federal grants and aid. And this was actually just
a brief administrative stay to allow for expedited briefing and argument. But I
mean, as I think our description has already made clear, the chaos and confusion are impossible
to overstate. And then, because things got crazier.
This was the best part. This was the best part.
I screamed. I was in my office and I screamed.
The scream I scrumped. They rescinded it with a one-line OMB memo that was like,
never mind, oops.
And it seemed like maybe they said, not oops, my bad,
more like it.
Or maybe like a, you can't fire me,
I quit to the federal courts, who were obviously not
buying what they were selling.
But wow.
And then things continued from there,
because White House press secretary Caroline Levitt
tweeted what seemed to want to be a rescission of the rescission,
leading us to wonder, love it or leave it, love it?
Always choose love it.
Right, exactly.
Always choose love it.
Choose love it.
Choose the bear. So it turns out you can't override an OMB memo
with a tweet, but you can get federal judges interested
in continuing to superintend challenges
to whatever it is the administration is doing here
when they announce, maybe we're just going to do it after all.
So in part because of this tweet seeming
to keep this initiative alive.
Another federal case,
this one brought by a group of democratic states,
it's likely to produce another preliminary ruling
against the administration.
The best people, meritocracy in action.
It's the fuck around of times.
It was the find out of times.
Anyway, while all of this was unfolding, head start programs,
domestic violence shelters, veterans programs, et cetera, et cetera, all of this was unfolding, Head Start programs, domestic violence shelters, veterans
programs, et cetera, et cetera, all of these programs that are funded by federal dollars
were basically preparing to furlough staff, notify their beneficiaries and other participants
that they would no longer be getting the services to which they had previously been entitled.
Now it seems that all of these services are on again.
But again, that seems only to be because
of the whims of this particular administration
and the intercession of principled judges.
So watch the space at least until the next OMB memo
and we'll see what happens.
And if you are the recipient of federal largesse, buckle up.
So one, what do these people have against Meals on Wheels?
But two, lest you think this OMB saga is over,
I want to remind you all of what happened with the travel
ban slash Muslim ban during the first Trump administration,
which is, remember the chaotic order
that Trump just kind of shared that no one knew about
caused chaos at the orders.
It was paused by courts.
Then they come back with a new modified order that
looks slightly more law-like, some additional lipstick
on the pig.
And that one also gets enjoined by some lower courts.
But then it expires, and they eventually produce a third.
This one was a little less Islamophobia. Well, that they claim to have a little bit less
Islamophobia and they claim to have resulted from some sort of interagency process. And that third
iteration of the same impetus is eventually upheld by the Supreme Court. So we should not lose sight
of the fact that again, this might be part of the flood the zone with shit strategy. Again, much to cover here. We
definitely wanted to spend some time on the fast moving, cruel executive orders that target the
trans community. So the administration has now issued multiple additional executive orders
targeting trans people in truly vile, despicable, and unconstitutional ways.
These are the second act to and follow from a previously announced executive order that
declared two genders and purported to defend women from gender ideology extremism.
That previous order is already having devastating consequences.
As part of the declaration that there are only two sexes and its insistence trans people
don't exist, the administration issued a directive to ensure
males are not detained in women's prisons. That was part of the EO.
The Huffington Post has since reported on some of the chaos and cruelty
this has caused in prisons that described an account from a person incarcerated at a women's facility
that maintained officers were taunting trans inmates saying we don't have to call you women anymore,
taking them to segregated housing, a form of solitary confinement, possibly to eventually
transfer them to men's prisons, where they would face staggeringly high risks of sexual
assault, harassment, and more.
Also out of fear of some of these executive orders, which threaten federal funds unless
entities go along with the administration's vile pronouncements.
Some entities have announced they
will stop providing gender-affirming care
because they are concerned about losing out on federal funds.
So UVA's Health Services, for example,
announced that last week.
And at the time we were recording on Friday,
that announcement was still in place.
OK, so that's sort of the fallout
from the first executive order.
What do these new executive orders do?
So they purport to totally ban transgender individuals
from the military with just shockingly offensive
language about the unfitness of trans people to serve.
It isn't totally clear how the order will impact
current trans military members, but it clearly
would prospectively ban the admission into the military
of any trans people.
That's only the first executive order.
The second one purports to crack down on schools' ability
to support trans students and educate people
about gender identity.
Although we should be very clear,
the order is broadly about education and school
curricula, not simply about the question of trans rights
and gender and sexuality.
But what the EO actually does with regard
to gender and sexuality is that it attempts to require all schools that receive federal funding to stop any effort to protect trans and non-binary students and to abandon any accommodations, acknowled unquote, patriotic education, which the order
defines as, quote, an accurate, honest, unifying, inspiring, and ennobling characterization
of America's founding and foundational principles, end quote. It also requires, quote, a clear
examination of how the United States has admirably grown closer to its noble principles throughout
its history and the concept that celebration of America's greatness
and history is proper."
End quote.
Hmm.
This made me wonder whether the order might make MAGA itself
of dubious legality, since the premise of MAGA
is that America is not already great, right,
and needs to go through some sort of re-greatening.
That's an excellent observation.
That's like, MAGA is a Jamaican mom who constantly wants
you to improve yourself.
Up your game a little bit.
Yeah, this order is like, you were always fabulous, sweetie.
It's the Kris Jenner of EOs, actually.
It really feels like all of these orders
were slapped together by some people between the ages of 18 to 22
who have been deeply radicalized by the Manosphere.
And it's that that's what I'm picking up.
And Kate, do you have a hot take about this?
And the law?
I mean, we do have a First Amendment still.
The justices sometimes seem interested in that.
And so sometimes, but only on the religion side.
Typically.
But money, corporate spending too.
There's a few parts of the First Amendment that they're enthusiastic about. I mean,
this is a vile, both, I mean, the kind of trans EOs in general are disgusting, discriminatory,
and also all of these, in particular,
the school executive order seems like an obvious and flagrant
violation of the First Amendment.
And look, are there absolutely a lot
of lower federal court judges who will agree with that?
Yeah.
I don't think there's any question.
But the Supreme Court, obviously, who knows?
I thought you were going to mention the federal law that
prohibits federal officials from telling schools what they can
and cannot teach.
It's not supposed to be up to federal officers.
And we've heard ad nauseam how education is a local issue.
So I'm really, frankly, surprised to see this EO
existing.
And yeah.
And I thought the spending clause would like a word.
Exactly.
Whatever the Supreme Court says, the federal government
is not supposed to be able
to impose like novel out of left field, out of nowhere conditions.
Or maybe the executive branch is a little topsy turvy.
The vagueness, the midstream changes, and also it's not even the branch that's supposed
to be imposing these conditions.
I know it's hard to keep, it's hard to actually provide a comprehensive accounting of all
of the constitutional infirmities
with an order like this.
I just want to take stock.
So far, George W. Bush, Steve Bannon, and now Kate
in the law, and Leah and I have vaguely
agreed with all three, all of these.
Big tent, guys.
What a world.
What a world.
What a world.
All right.
We should also talk about the executive order
addressing Guantanamo Bay.
As many of you might have remembered from the early
aughts, Guantanamo detention really
worked well for detaining suspected terrorists.
That was highly ironic.
But because it was obviously problematic,
Trump's people decided, why not build a huge, bigly new facility to detain people at Gitmo?
Horrible idea. In addition to it being a horrible idea, the order itself is at war with Donald Trump's self-presentation
that he is going to overcome resistance from other governments and successfully close the border.
At the signing ceremony, he suggested that detention is necessary
because third countries might refuse
to take back their nationals.
And because if these individuals weren't detained,
they would be able to come back into the United States.
Again, all of this seems to be intention
with Trump's talk about taking a firm line at the border.
Like, why do we need this new facility
if you strong man are taking firm steps to secure the border? Like, why do we need this new facility if you strongman are
taking firm steps to secure the border? I'm confused. Just me. Also, Guantanamo has never
been used to detain people who are apprehended in the United States. Sending people there would
effectively be a removal from the United States and should be subject to all of the legal protections and review governing removals.
Like this is just insanity.
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I actually wanted to point out one piece of good news, which is actually some of the early
polling on some of this madness does give the sense that the public actually isn't all
that into this dumpster fire.
So Reuters and Ipsos did some polling at the end of the first week when a lot of these orders had just been issued. And actually, I think it's fascinating
and I don't think it got a ton of play, so I did want to just mention a couple of highlights.
So one, ending birthright citizenship is very unpopular. So 59% opposed.
36% approved.
So weird.
I mean, at this point, look, they chose Donald Trump. I wouldn't have been that surprised
at any of this. So actually, I did find it kind point, look, they chose Donald Trump. I wouldn't have been that surprised at any of this.
So actually, I did find it kind of heartening that some of the numbers came out the way
they did.
Pardoning the J6ers, 62% opposed.
Ending all DEI programs and firing officials involved in DEI, 51% disapprove, 44% approve.
So still more unpopular.
Ending federal efforts to hire women and minorities, that's how the question was phrased. Only 37% approve of doing that, 59% disapprove. And here's my favorite, you guys,
renaming the Gulf of Mexico. It seems kind of anodyne. People hate it. 70% of survey
respondents are opposed to renaming the Gulf of Mexico. So again, it just does suggest
to me that does polling mean anything? Who knows? And these are initial impressions.
But I do not think that the stuff that they are, you know, serving up is wildly popular
with most of the American public.
Are we supposed to take from this that the kids are okay?
No.
Okay.
It could be worse. They could be like, yes, give us more.
You're so good at this. You're so good at being optimistic. I love this about you.
So this is bad.
I have something that isn't good news, but kind of humorous news, kind of.
So the Wall Street Journal reported that as the Internal Revenue Service was trying to
search and delete references to DEI, the IRS removed some mentions of equity and inclusion
from the Internal Revenue Manual
that had some unintended consequences, such as deleting language about the inequity of holding
on to a taxpayer's money and also omitting references to requiring the inclusion of taxpayer
identification numbers on forms. All right.
It's not just the federal government doing weird stuff.
We should also turn to the state courts where weird stuff also continues to happen, especially
in the state of North Carolina.
So Kate, do you have an update from the Tar Heel state?
Regrettably, I do.
So Jefferson Griffin is still refusing
to stop to let it go.
Reminder, he was running for the North Carolina Supreme Court.
He lost to Justice Allison Riggs,
but he is still pursuing, I think now, three cases
in Wake County Superior Court.
The North Carolina Supreme Court has stayed the election board
certification so those cases can go forward.
Griffin, as a reminder, is continuing to press these theories about why tens of thousands of
votes should be thrown out even though none of those arguments were offered before the election.
There was an oral argument in the Fourth Circuit last Monday about whether the whole case should
be transferred to federal court. Sounds like that argument was pretty messy and confused.
And it seems likely that Griffin's tactic here is trying to get a favorable ruling in one of should be transferred to federal court. Sounds like that argument was pretty messy and confused.
And it seems likely that Griffin's tactic here is trying to get a favorable ruling in
one of these many pending state cases and then get a tied vote in the North Carolina
Supreme Court, leaving that ruling in effect. I just cannot imagine a more shameless and
undignified way to try to get a seat at the top of a state's system of justice. But that
seems to be what
we're witnessing.
LESLIE KENDRICK-KLEIN ProPublica had a great piece of reporting last
week involving interviews with some of the voters whose votes Griffin is actually challenging
in his quest to be North Carolina's next Supreme Court justice. Among those was a 22-year-old
who doesn't drive because he has epilepsy and so he doesn't have a driver's license.
For that reason, when he votes, he
uses his social security number and a state-issued ID
that isn't a driver's license.
Obviously, Jefferson Griffin took this personally,
wants to throw out his vote because this individual is not
using an actual driver's license.
There's another voter.
This is Frank Jarvis, who says he is extremely upset.
His wife's registration was challenged.
They live in the state's eastern coast,
and they identify as, quote, traditional conservatives
and Republicans.
And right now, they find that all of this,
quote, leaves a terrible taste in my mouth.
No matter what side is doing this,
I don't need that kind of person representing me
on the Supreme Court, end quote.
So it's not playing well in North Carolina Jefferson
Griffin, but you keep trying, I guess.
So another state court development,
we wanted to talk about Wisconsin elections
for their state Supreme Court.
So you all probably remember what an enormous deal it
was in 2023 when Justice Janet Protasewicz
beat Dan Kelly for a seat on their state Supreme Court.
This election is just as big.
So Justice Ann Walsh Bradley, a liberal, is retiring.
That means there's an open seat, which means that once again, control of the Supreme Court
of Wisconsin hangs in the balance.
The candidates are Susan Crawford, who's a circuit judge in Dane County, and Brad Schimel.
From 2015 to 2019, Schimel was the 44th attorney general
of Wisconsin, but lost his re-election bid in 2018.
After the loss, Republican Governor Scott Walker
appointed him to a Wisconsin Circuit Court seat.
There are already huge amounts of money
pouring into the race.
Elon Musk has dipped his toe in, because it's not enough
to be co-president of these United States. In a tweet he said...
You have to be co-governor of Wisconsin too.
Also shadow state Supreme Court justice. In a tweet he said, quote, very important to
vote Republican for the Wisconsin Supreme Court to prevent voting fraud, exclamation.
I can't believe they're still trying this line, like voting fraud. I mean, it's insane.
But the fact that he has jumped in at all
and is flexing his money and his muscles is just so worrying.
Well, voting fraud is effectively DEI.
It's code for something.
And it's code for racial minorities voting.
Exactly.
And so if you are unsure where to focus your attention
since November, since January, if there's so much
and it is too much and you have felt just at a loss,
this is your moment to get involved.
This is the sort of state race where
you can make a difference.
They often come down to a small number of votes.
And getting money in now, volunteering now,
is a great way for ensuring a happy result in April.
So another development in the states,
to mention Louisiana prosecutors have obtained an indictment
of a New York doctor who prescribes and mails
medication abortion, including to patients in Louisiana.
New York has a shield law that should protect physicians,
like the one named in the indictment, but
we will see sort of how this conflict of laws and legal regimes plays out.
This is something we knew was coming basically immediately following Dobbs.
It seems like it's now here.
All right. We should also take up some of the new cases that the court will review.
The court took cert on Oklahoma Statewide Virtual Charter
School Board versus Drummond and St. Isidore
of Seville Catholic Virtual School versus Drummond.
These are challenges to the permissibility
of a religious public charter school.
And they'll be consolidated for review.
We should note that Justice Barrett has recused herself
from the consideration of the case.
And to be clear, a justice does not
have to provide any explanation for a decision to recuse.
But it is noteworthy that Justice Barrett got some flak
for failing to recuse herself when the court heard
an earlier case to Joy v. Groff, where the Notre Dame Religious
Liberty Clinic and a number of Notre Dame professors
were involved in either filing briefs or working on that case.
And Justice Barrett, as listeners will recall,
was a professor at Notre Dame's law school
prior to her appointment to the Seventh Circuit.
Here, in this case, there are ties to the clinic again.
But I think a more relevant fact is that Professor Nicole
Stell-Garnett, also a Notre Dame professor
and reportedly Justice Barrett's
best friend, has been an advisor to St. Isidore's, one of the litigants in this case. So this is all
to say that the attention to the court's ethical practices are not necessarily ill spent. The
justices are being more careful about when they recuse, what the appearance of impropriety might look like.
And that, I think, is to the benefit of the court
and the public.
Given this cert grant, as well as the executive order
we were talking about on patriotic education,
wanted to re-recommend work by Professor Kaitlyn
Malott at Arizona State, the Education Democracy Nexus.
I also recently read Mike Hicks and Bow's book,
They Came for the Schools.
Extremely topical and very well done.
Kate, I need some new reading material.
Do you have any recommendations?
I don't want anything trickly or saccharine,
so none of your hot takes.
So what do you have?
OK, I actually am reading color television, which
you recommended to me.
Oh, yeah, Danzies Senna.
But I read that already.
I know.
Do you have anything else for me? I want something that's bracing, going to to me. Oh yeah, Danzies Senna. But I read that already. I know. Anything else for me? Well, I want something that's bracing, gonna get me
revved up and maybe keep me a little pissed off. What do you got?
I am waiting with bated breath for the arrival of my five copies of Leah
Lippman's new Lawless.
I don't think I know her. Who's Leah Lippman? Tell me about Lawless.
Well, I haven't gotten it yet, but I think it's gonna be a...
Don't Mariah Carey me girl. Wait, our girl Leah has a book and it's called Lawless. Say more.
Say more. I'm already intrigued. The subtitle has evolved a little bit. Leah,
we remind me of the current subtitle, How the Supreme Court Runs On. Conservative
Grievance. Say it, let us listen. Fringe Theories. And Bad Vibes. theories, and bad vibes.
Okay, and bad vibes.
That's exactly what I needed.
Conservative grievance, fringe theories, and bad vibes.
Inject it into my veins.
I'm smashing the buy now button at bookshop.org.
Can I tell you the chapter title of the final chapter?
Please tell me.
Tell me a little peek behind the curtain.
It's called the American Psychos of the Supreme Court.
Oh, are there body parts in freezers?
Metaphorically?
You'll have to stay tuned.
Yes.
Spoiler.
Seriously, run Don't Walk to either bookshop or your local independent bookstore or if
you must, some behemoth that also provides the signal of books and audiobooks.
But get this book.
It's going to be really, really important.
Pre-order it.
Download it while it's hot.
Put it on your nightstand when you get it.
And read it.
Send one to Sam.
Oh, you can actually gift one to your favorite justice.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Congratulations, Leah.
We are all waiting with bated breath for this.
And Kate, much better than your last recommendation to me, which was Brett Kavanaugh's The Book
of Basketball.
That was written by Brett Kavanaugh.
I'm just kidding.
That was actually a very good book.
Bill Simmons.
All right.
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