Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 003 - Bondage Guy is Looking For a New Sub

Episode Date: December 29, 2013

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Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. Craigslist is definitely the gift like to be fungiving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it. The temptation is just too much.

Does your friend know that you're banging her? No, he has no idea. And anything goes. The motto of the show, let your Greek black lie. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to re-hide your whips and check. Here are your hosts, Kathy Kay and Tommy. Hey, Tommy. How are you today?

I'm good. How are you today? Good. You were actually on time today. I know. Like, I think maybe you were even two minutes early. I can't believe it. I know.

Are you going to be nice to me on this podcast today? No, I'm going to be myself. I'm very nice to you. I started the last podcast talking, giving you, telling you that all the compliments that people said about you and how great you were on the podcast. That's true. Okay. So why are you only, oh, are you a cup half empty person? A what?

A cup half empty person? FMD. Like you only see the cup of empty. Why don't you hear my compliments? No, I'm not a glass half full. Were you abused as a child? Only when I was bad. You told me a story about your mom when she whacked you in the face of this door. You went to this door.

There was when free, the vacuum packed coffee first came out. And I knocked a package over and it made that cool sound. I thought it was amazing. So I took a pen out of my mom's purse and she went on to the exiles. So I started puncturing all the things. And then when I got bored of it, I just left. And my mom went to check out and they came up and they said, excuse me, ma'am, they threw my mom out of the A&P. And my mom left the cart there and was like, you know, upset.

But it didn't seem like she was upset with me. So when we got in the car, she said, oh, you okay? I said, yeah, mom, I can't believe they made us leave. She goes, horrible, horrible, we'll go to shop right. She's a seatbelt on. I said, yes. She goes, you okay? I said, yes.

I thought I was in the clear. Two belts to the mouth. Yeah, I loved that. You told the story better the first time. Like she didn't say one word. She let you do. She let you be bad. She kept her cool.

She got on the car. She turned around. She wailed you right in the face. Beat the shit out of me. It's terrible. I don't believe in that. But I think it's hilarious. No.

I think children these days, every once in a while, a calculated ass kicking. Oh, God. I don't agree. Not like a constant. I go to buy-bye baby a lot now because I'm shopping for baby stuff. And some of these up, uptown women, the way they treat their children. In what sense? They're not hitting them?

and they should or they're hitting them and hitting them and cursing at them. Right. So how do you think, and that's what you agree with? No, I said calculated. Calculated like slaps? No,

let something really build up and then the straw that breaks the camel's back, you unload. You know, my sister has three kids and they're all like really good kids and I've never seen her hit them once and they're really well behaved. So I think if you train them properly, you don't need to hit them. I mean, my sister's like that.

She's never, she doesn't, they don't, they never spanked their kids, but she put like the, fear of God into them. Right. So isn't that better? Hitting kids is so shameful. I think it's shaming and I don't think it's good. Shaking. What about a good shaking? She, I don't know. But do you remember like my parents would put soap in my mouth and maybe it was because I was potty mouth.

Palm all the worst. Oh my God. Think about how archaic that was. I've even asked my mother like now when we're like, how could you have done that? And she's like, I don't know. Like there was something fucked up and wrong and that's an inappropriate. There's something wrong with that generation, the shit that they used to do to kids. Putting soap in someone's mouth? I mean, what the hell? I don't know, but I got soap put in my mouth a lot. Me too, obviously, because I was always cursing. You're still swearing. I'm very rebellious. You tell me not to do something. Like, I quit drinking, by the way, 10 years ago. That's my story. I'm very sober. I'm very proud of you. Thank you. Because you were a mess. I was. I was a crazy drunk. She was a mess. Yeah, and I really quit. And I went to A.A.

like a couple times. And I was like, I don't know how people do it. Because if I went to, I had to quit. And I've been successful as a non-drinker for 10 years without it. Because for me, I'm so rebellious that if I went to a place every day, because they say you have to go every day and you go every day and all you talk about is not drinking and all they do is tell you that you can't drink. And I mean, that would make me want to drink. Like the more you tell me not to do something, the more I want to do it. I remember at the time, instead of going to AA, what I did was I went to therapy and I increased

my therapy sessions and I remember I was telling my therapist how much I hate AA and she was like, oh, well, you don't have to go to AA. Like, there's all these other things. And like, she was like very anti-A. and I was like, you know what? Maybe I'm going to go to AA. Like all of a sudden, when she was against it, I was like, screw you. Like, maybe I want to go to AA.

Like, I just want to do the opposite. So things like that don't work for me. What was the point? That would have been good advice for a guy in high school with you. Kathy, I don't want you to blow me. Don't even think about it blow me. Totally. I will get, like, if I want a guy and I can't have him,

sometimes it's hard for me to like let go of that, you know, because I like to get what I want. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm rebellious. And so, you know, for me, yeah, my parents, no matter what they did to me, I was a very difficult kid because I was super smart

and I was a very much an out-of-the-box thinker so if my parents said you can't do this or you can't do that I'd be like, yes, I can. And the truth is, you can. Like, your parents could say you could have to stay home. But unless they tie you up into a chair, you could go out. Like, I'd be like, unless you tie me up on this chair,

I'll climb out the window, I'll unscrew the door, I'll jump out the wall, like, I'll do anything. I can do it. You want to know why? Why? Because you didn't have parents that would beat you. No, my father beat the shit out of me all the time. That's why I don't believe in it.

What are you kidding? Yeah, so it didn't matter that they beat me. I didn't care. I took it. It was more important to me. I took it. It was more important to me to do what I wanted to do. I was so rebellious.

It was terrible. And I don't think it's healthy to hit your kids. Because then what happens? I mean, it's weird. I'm not a violent person at all. I was always good with my mouth verbally. Like nobody, no girls ever tried to beat me up or anything because I could be vicious with my mouth. But I never, yeah, I never fought physically with people.

But you think I would because of all the violence that my dad. And it was weird. dad never hit my brother or sister just me. I was the bad one, the black seed, the black sheep, whatever. The devil child. Totally. Yeah, exactly. Well, and when your father is a priest, you know my father is a priest.

Yes. A reverend, a very reverend. You were a prime child. So devil child would be the proper term in the holy household. Yep. So we have a caller calling in today. I'm still putting ads on Craigslist. I tried New Jersey.

I'm going to go out to other cities, right? I tried New Jersey. And it's weird. I didn't get that many replies. I think I should probably stick with the bigger cities because I think bigger cities have a more of a you know the demographic that we're looking for uh what was the guy's name john was from philadelphia yeah but they're looking but what they're coming through new york so obviously even if they're in new jersey or the outside suburbs they're looking for freaks in new york

do you understand nobody's looking for anything interesting in new jersey because i posted all over there and people just flagged my things like little narks like tattletails like it's so everyday like who cares if my my ad is improperly placed like who's going and pressing spam it's so stupid. The tranny who's looking for clients. She's like, taking it on my ad space and I'm not going to go to tranny traffic here. You're actually right. That's a smart tranny. Yeah. I'm thinking it's like some little narc like who like the do-gooder, you know. Like who do they think they are. I'm the one who got to surgery. Fuck her. Yeah, the Craigslist police. But you're right. It's probably somebody that's on

there that's really trying to use this to get late or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. So I went back to New York. I'm going to eventually go to like Miami you know the bigger cities I think because that's where you know the people that we're looking for are and um this guy is pure sex it's all about bondage dominance what BDSM is bondage dominance submission and massacism right yeah bondage and sadomasochism or whatever yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so this is stupid um and here's his email I've entered into the BDSM scene as a dom I've always had the traits and have recently acted on it and I've trained two subs. Both have moved on and I'd like to know the best places and ways to meet new prospective subs. The thing that scares me about this call is like, I don't know anything

about that scene. Do you? No. So we don't, so maybe you should start Googling. Tell us what you know about the scene because I feel bad that we can. I want him to call in because I just want to find out about the scene, you know, I mean, it's not something that I'm into, but it's interesting. I wasn't in the scene or anything. I didn't ever go to one of these parties, but you know, I dated a lot and I actually met some girls that were kind of into that. Did they tell you where they went out? No, they never really told me where they went out or anything.

But I knew one time when I was, this was like 94, there was a club in Manhattan called the vault. Yeah, I think everyone was a lot. One of my good friends' sisters from high school was the dominatrix. And we actually, I actually went there and saw it. And, I mean, but they're doing everything in front of everybody. Like full on sex? But it wasn't always about sex. Right.

Let me ask you this. Did you find it erotic? Like a turn on? At first, at first, because it was new, it was like, wow. Yeah. But then after a while, you're like, all right, I'm bored. Like, no one's really fucking. Everybody's, like, hitting each other or you're straining each other.

Right. It's like, you know, it's this denial thing. And it's like, too much for a play. It's like, dude, I want to get in. I want to get out. I got shit to do, you know? Right. It doesn't turn you on.

I one time dated a girl. I know this story. And I met her on Match.com. The dog walker? No, no, no. First, there was a girl that I met blonde-haired, nice, like a librarian. Right. She was younger than me.

She was a bartender. This was 10 years ago, more than that, 11 years ago. And she was cute and funny. And like, I got off work and I met her, went and had some drinks. And she was real bubbly. Kind of like the girl next door. We got back to my apartment. This fucking girl put like my dog,

like a collar on. I didn't have my dog at the time. Put a collar on. Wanted me to spank her. Lock her in the closet. And I was like, all right. And like, spanked her a little bit.

And then like really while we were having sex, I mean, she was making all these demands. And I like kind of let loose. And I thought I went too far. And she like came and she was like, oh, I was so happy we're into the same shit. Kind of didn't call that.

one again the one you're talking about was recently well not recently it was a couple years ago um i met her she was an older woman and i found her attractive she was nice we went out for drinks then she came over and she's like well i got to let you know what i'm into and i was like oh fuck you know what's wrong she's got a disease right she's married or has some some weird situation she starts talking that like she wants to explore anal sex I'm like I can do that

there's no problem but then she got into the whole bondage thing and that's when she like put the dog collar on I was like all right I played along and finally I'm like listen

I'm like I'm walking you up and down the hallway and this and that and finally I couldn't think of shit to do this woman she would be naked though like she'd say like let's get naked No, no, no, she didn't say let's do anything. She just like...

Did you have a dog at the time? I did. Okay. Did she take the collar off the dog or did she have her own collar? No, she had it in her pocketbook. Yeah, that's interesting part of the story. Yeah, she had it in her... That's fucking weird.

Yeah, we weren't even... Didn't have that conversation yet. She pulled it out of her pocketbook. So I was like, fuck it. Like that one called Yolo, you know? I was like, let's do it. And I was doing it, but then she's like, oh, well, you know what I mean? What if I'd...

done this or I've been bad and I'm just like going with it going with it finally I ran out of shit to like make this woman do so I locked her in my closet she asked for that though right kind of I kind of so I'm like yeah get in the closet so I locked the closet and while she was in the closet I like watched a movie and what did she do and then I was like I was like I was like no she was like moaning and stuff I think she was like playing with herself and then finally you know I was like all right I pulled her out of the closet I made her blow me and I was I was like, all right, wash up and get out. Right.

So you weren't into it. Well, and then, but I would go out, I'd get a little wasted and I'd be like, you know what? Let me bring the dog collar lady over for a little bit. Yeah, totally, because you're just so drunk. Not drunk, drunk, but like, you know, but it gets old fast. But, you know, I can see it's a whole leather scene. Like the, there's a whole bunch of stuff. I mean, it's just a lot of work.

Right. You know? Right. When you don't need all that to get turned on. But different strokes. for different folks, you know. For me, not so much. I need gum again.

Sorry, I'm still having that taste. Oh, the chomper. The metal taste is back? First of all, just so you know, Tommy, I taught you how to not chomp. Okay, one of my biggest pet peeves that any of my friends will know, I'll just let the listeners know.

I have something called mesophonia. Okay, it's an actual disease. Usopony? No, mesophonia. Google it. M-I-S-O. It's charging still. Okay, it's misophonia is a real disease,

and it happens to, and I have it hardcore. It makes me very overly sensitive to noise and anything. I mean, besides chomping, if you sniff too loud or breathe too loud or click your fingers too much, any kind of constant little sounding irritant makes me want to kill somebody. And other people have it too. I mean, somebody died in a movie. Someone killed someone in a movie theater because they were chopping their popcorn.

I go to movie theaters with my head's phones. Like, I have to put them in. I can't listen. Before I used to use my headphones, my Bose speakers. Movies are becoming dangerous places now. Yeah, well, before I would do that, I would go to the bathroom and put toilet. I would shove toilet paper in my ears. And one time, I shoved so much toilet paper so far down in my ear that I couldn't get it out.

And I was like having a panic attack because I'm going to have to go to the emergency room and explain to like the hot doctor because all my doctors always happen to be hot. Like why I have toilet paper in my ear and then I was able to get it out with a tweezer. So I decided, then I solved the problem. Your doctor's office on Fantasyland. No, I have so many doctor's stories. I always want my doctors to be old and ugly. And they're always like these young hot guys. I mean, that's the truth.

And I have like a million hot doctor stories, which I get into, but I'm hoping that our caller calls him. And so obviously, okay, he's calling in. Oh, I think I said 515. Let me just email him. 515. He's like two months late. I really am very into like. On time?

Yeah, you know that, right? Yeah. I was on time today, two minutes early. Yeah, I can't believe it. I lie to you. Can I book our callers for a little bit later and I lied to you and make you come way early because I know you're going to hit traffic or you know. Can I use my two minutes for next time and come two minutes late and then be on time? No, are you kidding me?

No, you should always be here early. For me, on time is five minutes early. When I'm actually on time, I feel late. Like if I have an appointment for three o'clock, I'm always there at, you know, 250 or 255. If I get there at three, for some reason, I feel late. Actually, I like to be on time. I mean, one thing about my wife that the only trouble is, she is never on time.

But not just a little late, like always late. How old is your wife? She is 28, 29. Oh, thank God she's going to make that move. She's going to make that move out of 20s. 29. 20s are horrendous. It's awesome.

It's kind of. It's awesome. I can't stand 20 something else. Not really. They think they know everything and they know nothing. I'm sure I was horrendous when I was 20. She's not from the U.S. It's different.

It makes a huge difference. Okay, then whatever. The fact that she's never on time is really irritating. It is irritating. But you're never on time either, so I feel like you guys make a good pair. Yes, but you must know she's really not on time.

Right. Like hour, half hour, how much late? Yeah, like an hour. Really? Yeah. I lie about times. If we have to be somewhere at six, I'm like, we have to be there at 515.

Right. That's smart. That's what you got to do. Because, you know, I'm looking in my emails to see what time this guy's calling in. Power. What's his name? Power man. Power man.

He's a Dom and he recently, I just want to know how he crosses over. He must get girls from like, how do you find, how did these guys find people that are into it? Because it's pretty much a silent community, right? One thing I do know is the dominant males are usually not dominant guys in Seattle. in society. Here, I was a good guy. Hold on. We'll be right back.

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Hi, this is Steve. Hey, Steve. How are you? This is Kathy, and you're on with my co-host, Tommy. Hi, how are you, Steve? We didn't know what to call you, but we just read your email and we were discussing your situation, but why don't you refresh us and tell us what your problem is or what you're calling in about? Well, always had very active into the BDSM role.

actually have a couple of subs that I've trained and I've been to a lot of the clubs and shows and, you know, just really getting very into this sort of lifestyle now. And I'm just curious, you know, if you were in this position and you were looking for perspective subs, you know, where would you, where would you be looking? What would you do? Where would you go to that kind of thing? But let me ask you this, because I have you calling in more because I'm so interested in how, like, and asking you questions about that whole scene because I don't really know.

know that much Tommy's gotten involved in it and knows more. But if you don't mind us asking you some questions first about your background. Like when was, when did you get into this how many years ago? It was in the last year and I thought it's always been sort of dominant and in control. When you're having sex with, when you were just in the regular world? Oh,

and then definitely in the, in my sexual world and behind closed doors. And so it was a natural progression to sort of go to the next level with the passion area, the whips, the change, the costs, the whole, the whole work, maybe if you shade the great help this thing or, you know, board it out and you open more. But once I started moving to that next level, I was like, wow, this really is a lifestyle for me. This really is, you know, where I see myself. Let me ask you this.

How old are you? Oh, 55. 55. Like, have you ever been married? Are you married? Yeah. You're married now? Yes.

Okay. So is this something that you do with your wife or are you do on the side? On the side. Okay, cool. I mean, it's totally anonymous. Nobody knows who the hell you are. So, you know, you could be honest with us. And is it something that she knows that you do on the side?

Does she take part in it or is this a secret life, like, you know, side life of yours? And what's your sex with her like? I mean, do you have straight sex with her? And you go off and do this with other people because they're into it? Do you know for a fact that your wife's not into that kind of sex? I think the input on a milder level, and that's fine, and it doesn't really affect, it's almost like two different kind of worlds. One is kind of what I say is the normal heterosexual man-woman sex-like, but more on where one person is in control. Again, not with a passion alien, which the machine and the line stuff.

and then the other one is sort of the next level of, you know, complete submissive, missing control. Right, but I mean, did you ever try to go to that level with your wife, or do you not want to go there with her? It's a good question. I kind of both. Yeah, right. You know, kind of both. Right. So you have, you have tried and she's not interested?

Right. Just to a certain level that you don't cross. Yeah, she has her limits. Right. And plus maybe if you cross that line and let her run. really know that you're, you know, show your freak flag and she's like, what the hell are you into? You know, that could maybe cause some sort of issues in your relationship.

Like, is it maybe a part of you not really wanting to reveal it? Because in case, you know, in case she doesn't like it and it's a part of you, you don't want her to see. Yeah, she could think it's really cute or weird. Oh, my God. You know, who that man is kind of deal. Right, totally. I'm sure that happens.

That's in a lot of relationships. No, and that would make sense of why you keep it from her. Absolutely. And then, and then she's going to think if I can't sort of like give this to my. guy where you know what is he going to be doing how do you keep your if you're going to clubs and all these things on the side how do you keep this life private do you have i mean you know are you financially stable enough to have another apartment or like where do you do your business yeah so that's good that's good point so the answer to that one is yes so it's very very successful financially

but also i have like the perfect job so business executive high tech company 50% of the time i'm on the road in a hotel somewhere. Right. So it lands it up to this kind of lifestyle really easily. So wherever you travel, do you travel, like, do you travel to Europe a lot, or are you basically traveling in the United States or abroad? Like, where are you going all over the world? The U.S.

So, and it's mostly a big city, so it's the Dallas, the Phoenix, San Francisco, L.A., both, Seattle, those kind of place. Okay, and so do you hit Craigslist in those places, or do you just know the clubs from being in that scene? So when you go to those cities, you have hookups and you get involved in them when you're there, like ahead of time? Yeah, I'll do the search of on what is it called? Steck life. Stet-L-S-E.

It's strictly for BDSM people actually throughout the world. And you're always clogged with a switch where they'll have like lunches and people will be there and you could sort of meet people beforehand. But it's actually quite. You mean through not doing that? or just like in bars you mean when you say it's easy. No. No, that's like, and hear me. No, that's too risky.

No, you can't. Well, no, it's not even. How would you even know? I mean, the majority of people are not into that, right? So how are you going to weed out those people out without having to sort of out yourself to 20 women before you find the one that's into it? But like the first time that you did it? Like, were you out of town? Was it through an ad?

Were you nervous? Did you get wasted? Or like, was it something? You know, were you ready for it? Like, how did you cross that line? the first time and what was that about? The woman I met was quite a bit younger. Very soon as is looking to be trained.

Of course, I've never trained anybody before. So it was quite a bit of like reading, you know, trying to get as much information as I can about this. And it was, well, let's go out to dare and sit down and have a drink and talk first. And that's what happened. Then we agreed we'd meet the second time. And then the second time, and we started to move to taking this thing to the next level. So, you know, a lot of people in this lifestyle Because it's just so much of giving

You're your person Yeah, I mean, there's obviously a great deal of trust That's instilled He's meeting strangers How do you build that trust? So you... That's what you have to do. You have to talk exactly what he's doing.

No, but that was his first time with that girl. You met her first like before, like how did, were you out of like, I want to know that first actual scenario It was a year and a half ago It was like when you actually meet cross the line, right? Yes, so we talked online. line. We talked on the phone until full off. We had you go to the phone number and name, obviously email address, and then it was

Guinness, you stood across the table, looked at a person in the eye. You get feel for people, right? And then after that, it was, you know, we both agreed we want to take this thing to the next level. Of course, you use the safe word and, you know, were you traveling at the time and you just brought her back to your hotel room? Yeah, exactly. That same night. Right.

And she was a submissive and you were dumb. And was she, had she done this previous? Or was this her first time? Was she more teaching you? Or were you already prepared to like take, are you nervous? I think she dabbled in it a few times and never really found the right person. And, you know, never really had that chemistry of a click. And I think we just quit more personal level.

and then also on the physical level. How old was she? 26. And do you see these people regularly or is it most of the time a one-time thing? I mean, do you travel to the same places, I'm assuming, because you're on business? Yeah, only when you travel to their city? So the one person I've seen regularly, and then the other person sort of got to a level where she wanted to be submissive to her husband.

It was almost like it was a teacher with that person. It was. I really wanted to do this, but I don't know how. and it was really comfortable doing this with her spouse, and she was like, hey, thank you. I'm going to go off and do this on my own now with him. But the other person I still see from time to time. And do you always do business when you're on vacation,

or do you ever fly her into the place where you live? I don't know what city you live in, but does she ever come into town where you live in, and you do fly me outs, or you basically see her when you're on the road? It's where I'm traveling, and I can get her out there with me if she can get a day off. Absolutely, I'll just take her with me.

Right, you take her with me. but do you ever do this kind of behavior in the city where you live? But you have done it. Yeah, that would make sense. Oh, yeah. No, I mean, it doesn't make sense. Some people would never do it because they don't want to be caught. No, like I said, very cautiously, yes.

Oh, that makes sense. Right. Yeah, that makes sense. And where do you do that in a hotel or at a club? Do you do the clubs in your city where you live? I will attend a club. Well, I live in New York. So there's plenty of clubs in Manhattan.

So I will attend a club here and there more as, a warrior visual kind of thing, get ideas, and actually because I want to make sure I'm getting that people there that I know through my business world or, you know. Yeah, have you ever bumped into somebody that you knew? Thank God to this day that has not happened. That's a good knock on wood, huh?

Because, you know, there's probably so many people walking around in your offices and offices and suits and nobody knows what people do. That's why I love Dateline, because all these really wealthy, powerful people die and then all the stories come out the woodwork. And it's always so fascinating. Like there's like, you know, hookers and strippers that they're married to are tied girls that they have babies with.

I mean, you know, you just never know these secret lives of anybody, you know. So do you have any success at these clubs meeting people? What they call, if you ever go up to, like I say, that life, there's routine munchies they call these where there are luncheons where people who are either in the lifestyle who are trying. trying to get into the lifestyle, wanting it into the lifestyle meet. And it's sort of like this open group, everybody goes and has like a buffet lunch and you get to meet people and talk. That's really, like I found the best place to meet people. Right.

They're called Munchies? Munchies, yeah. Interesting. And where do they held, like, the Ramada Inn conference lounge? Yeah, like in the Garden City in one of the hotels, they'll rent a room, you know, to any place that they have on the catering wall or have me out, they just think that it's a group function for what's the demographic like

I find it interesting because it's not a world that I've ever been involved in but I love to know about it what's the demographic are the people attractive or they not are they young or they old are they like I mean what do you see as like the trend or is it just like across the board lot of trakeys is a place that's uh I've heard of that yeah in Manhattan I think it's on 28th and if you go there and you watch you really get all kinds

you'll get teachers you'll get lawyers you'll get heavy people, you get attracted people, it's really a mixed bag. Yeah, it's a bell curve of people because, and some people you just wouldn't ever expect it. Right. You know, like the woman that I'm with is a teacher. You know, they would never in the school, you know, or think that she would be into this kind of lifestyle. The other thing is there are the, um, uh, there's the width of the chains, you know, all that handcuffs, all that stuff. They'll do this.

They'll rent like, uh, even like a whole of the Javits center of New Jersey. That's actually a pretty decent place to meet people, too, if you go to any of those shows. There's always hotels very close by. Yeah. And at the trade shows, do they advertise parties? Of course. I'm sure people have booths. Booths, right?

Demonstrations of the equipment, you know, is where they're, you know, real-life dungeons. It'll be, it's really heavy. It's like under fluorescent lights, but there's action going on. Yeah, but isn't it, isn't this also this scene? it can get quite expensive, right? I'm sorry, say that again? This scene and this lifestyle also can get quite expensive, right? I mean...

Oh, yeah. Yeah, not just the equipment, but I know... I knew a couple of girls that I was friends with in Manhattan that were actually Dominitrix. And, I mean, just to go to them, it cost a fabulous amount of money. Equipment, like you said, the equipment is very expensive. I mean, anything, you know, you buy a flogger, a really good whip. several hundred dollars

the course that's very expensive everything's very expensive it's got to be safe and and all that where do you keep your equipment if you can't keep it at home well it's kidding I actually hide it at the house

you do where I want to know just so that when I'm married because I'm never going to be married but one day I'm going to go look at that spot where do you hide it and I'm really giving you a lot of info that's cool that's why we call everyone calling anonymous so people could be

real? In my car, in my car, under the well, under where the spare tire is, I didn't know we would ever go there. I would totally go there. It's a total secret space. It's like an obvious, that's an obvious secret space. No one's going to go there. Yeah, that's where it is. Yeah. Wow. I don't think that that's very safe. I think you should just find a new hiding spot. How do you know that your wife's not going to be driving your car one day? Listen to this is what's going to happen. Yeah, she's going to get a flat tire, a nice car. A nice car. is going to come along. He's going to open up the thing and he starts helping her and he's going to take the tire out. And then he's going to look for nuts and bolts.

And he's going to be like, oh, let me look in here. And then she's going to get busted on like Route 95. All right. I think you, I don't think that that's such a great spot. You think that's a great spot, Tom? I don't think it's, I don't think his wife's going to go there. The only way for her to find out would be to have a certain situation like that happen. Like a flat tire or an accident.

what happens in life. Don't you get it? That, oh, it's the, what is it called Murphy's Law? What is it called? Shit like, that always happens. I suggest, probably the only good advice I'll ever give you on this call, because I don't really know anything about your world, is to rehide your whips and chains. It's like when people murder people, like they always put them in the backyard

or they're going to put them in the car. Like, there's so many better places for those whips and sell, go, you have a lot of money. Go get a storage unit or something. Why are you driving around them in your car? If you get killed in that car one day, knock on wood, and then the cops go to the scene, and then your wife has to be at court

and she has to find the evidence. Like, it's not a good thing. Seriously, you don't want to die like that. Hide your whips and change. What? You're about having it in the cars. You never have to worry about getting it in and out, but I totally agree with what you're saying,

but it just hasn't found a better spot. Shit happens, dude. You have so much money, right? Like, you make a high, like, you know, you're a million-dollar man. you could find a better place. You have to be smart to have had this kind of success. Think a little bit out of the box. Tommy's irritated right now by the fact that I'm like talking to him about the where he's

irritated. Oh, okay. But no, I'm interested. I mean, and how when you go to these clubs like trapeze or something like this trade shows and you don't meet that many, I mean, where is most of your success come from? Online, Craig's. Yeah, he already said that. What I want to know is because people could pay for Dominatrix, right?

do people pay for submissives? Like are there like I know that there's girls that are dams, right? Are there girls that you could just, do you ever solicit that? Like are there girls out there that you could solicit or no? No. No, interesting. Why not? Right.

It wouldn't be natural. Right. A submissive would never be taking money, like would never be that way, right? That's not the nature of it and you really want it to be real. Yeah. And which is not what I'm looking for. True. I can see that.

Because she's not really submissive. said if you're paying her. Right. It's like pretend. Yeah. You want the real deal. Are most of the people that you meet married like you two and living a secret life? Actually, most of the people I meet are either single in the lifestyle or married and they're both

in the lifestyle. I'd say I'm more in the minority. Right. Interesting. And your wife has no idea. No. Right. And how long you've been married for? For 30 years. And before you started this lifestyle, were you also cheating on her

like with regular sex with people throughout your marriage? I always traveled all over the world and always, you know, you go to Singapore or Thailand or Japan. Hookers below. You can't not. You can't not do it. Right. A girl in every port. Amsterdam, you know, you just can't.

The temptation is just too much. Would you do hookers? No. I mean, you know, it's different in some cities like in Singapore. where you bought a person dinner and you do this and you do leaving some money but it's it's not um the traditional like the way we think about it you know they cook you right i've heard about that whole wash your clothes it's pretty unbelievable right and i and i have you been to brazil too i mean i think for fifteen dollars you could get like the hottest bitch to just like do whatever you want

yeah i think of phoo several times and one is harries and also to chile right and so that's like $15 a day for like the hottest girl right yeah yeah and what about answering Would you go to the actual brothel, like those storefronts? In Berlin, they have a famous place called Aramis Club, right? Yes. In Amsterdam, you know, you have the windows and they have the red light on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's just real pay your money and go in.

I really haven't done that there. That's a little bit too commercial for me. It's more like the places, like I say, Singapore, where you have that. It's like a GSE, it's like a GSE. for the night. You know, they cook you dinner, you go out to eat, you know,

they cook the breakfast in one, you have to eat, but you stay with them the night, you throw them a few dollars, and you're done. Right. Interesting. It's like a real thing.

Right. And you have kids? How many kids you have? Two. Two kids. So, and so you cheated with your wife before that,

and then, and just because you just travel so much. And so you're calling in Tommy. I mean, Tommy has had more experience in this lifestyle than I have. You've had a couple of girls, but were they were like, they were accidental on my end. Like I started dating somebody or started seeing someone and then they would just expose that type of lifestyle to me.

And, you know, I found it interesting. Obviously, you know, I understand it's a, it's trust and, you know. It's a whole thing. It's so much more. It's a whole thing. And unfortunately, when somebody's not in the lifestyle and somebody who's in the lifestyle and wants to get involved, it's a lot to take in. at one time. I mean,

they... I would completely agree. I've only got another minute here, but the one thing I would say, if anyone is looking to just find someone to have sex with, this is not the lifestyle. It is a complete

commitment to somebody that's giving up control to me. There's a lot easier ways to do this than to go to the DM lifestyle. A lot of people want to be dumb because they think that it's an easy way to get women. It's really,

it's really a lot of work. And it's a huge commitment. You really are taking on the responsibility of controlling someone else with life. You're really getting to the high end of it. You're controlling what they do, how they spend their money, where they go. It's a lot more responsibility than people think.

Right. But what's your problem now? Like the online stuff and the clubs, it's not enough? Like, you know, because I know you were calling in to find out where else could you mean people? Yeah. I was like, you're... It would keep trying to try to.

is so you should try that. I think I've got a lot of the basis of coverage, but I said if there's another base or two that I can pick up, I might as well find out about. Yeah, like, unfortunately, I feel like we learned more from you than you learned from Boston. I could talk to you for like another hour. I know you have to go because I find it fascinating. That's why I wanted you to call it more so just to hear, you know,

the truth about the situation. I think that that book, I never read it. But like you said, it made it a lot more mainstream and a lot more people like really into it. But I wonder if there are people that are into it like you are. You know what I mean? It's like try to be bondage people. Like, I don't know.

That's kind of bullshit. And is it true also in that lifestyle? It's not about as much intercourse as you would think, right? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. It's more about the control. The control and the limits and stuff like that. And their strains.

Literally, when your training is, Woody, you're starting out asking them to write journals for you to keep a journal to write essays to do. Oh, God. Just for control. Just for control. So wait, where do you put those things? Are those things on your computer? Yeah, well, they're not on the computer. They're like in a cloud.

They're in ICloud. Thank God for the I cloud. Yeah, right? Yeah, thank God for the cloud. So you're doing, do you have a separate, do you have two phones? I do. Right, of course. You would have to.

I know guys like you, so I know how they do business. You have to every man with this kind of, like wealthy man. You've got another phone. You can't be doing it. You can't have your phone with your family and your real life with the other phone. That's too dangerous. That's completely separate. Right.

So you have two phone numbers. So you do all of your business with these women and all of your commands to them and what you want in, and email separately. I can talk again. I could talk to you for another hour, but I actually do have another appointment I have to go to right now. Okay, awesome. Thanks so much for calling in. See you.

Bye. Thanks, guys. We'll do it again. Okay, bye. Okay, so Tommy, why were you? I felt like you were irritated with him. I was. I mean, I tuned out a little bit with this guy.

He bothered me. What bothered you about him? It's just like, okay, I'm 55. I have a wife, a kid, and now I have this whole little secret lifestyle. And listen, motto of the show, let your freak flag fly. And he was.

And he was. But just for me, and I have nothing against that lifestyle, but just for me, it's so much work. For what? Right. There's not a lot of like SCX going on.

No. Like, first of all, the thing that freaked me out was these poor girls have to do like homework for him. They have to write essays and stuff. shit like I would rather kill myself. Who the fuck are you to make me write an essay?

Well, that's the whole thing. I mean, it's some weird submissive thing, but... I don't get it. I mean, and the whole thing, the whole thing with, you know, hiding the stuff in his car, I mean, it felt a little bad when you were like, what happens when you die?

Why do you feel bad? Do you actually think that by me saying that what happens if he dies, I'm like creating his death? Like, you think I have that power? No. I mean, thank you. I would take that as a compliment. Because it doesn't matter what I fucking say that guy, like, you know, what's going to happen is going to happen, but I am telling you

I am obsessed with Dateline, 48 hour, those kind of stories. People get killed all the time. People are constantly murdering people. People constantly are getting killed. And it's always great when these kind of guys die, like the really wealthy ones. Because they always leave a blood

bath of sex and prostitutions and baby mamas. And it's horrifying because I can't imagine being a widow and like having to choose between my feelings of sadness and hatred. You know what do you fucking do if you're, oh, that's, that was the wrong curse. Like, what do you do if you're really upset and your husband just died and then you have to

deal with the aftermath of him trashing his reputation because all this stuff comes out in the news and online, you know, where they find all this stuff about him. It's a terrible thing. And I really think that you're grieving already because of the loss. And now all of a sudden you're like, all right. What's this double bag of dildos in my husband's trunk? Totally. And then she finds out he has a separate phone

And she finds all these stupid things online The hard drive I mean I think the worst thing She's gonna find are those essays like what the hell is that all about It's so weird I didn't read that book What's the book called 50 shit is so tried to be I didn't read it I'm sure every regular girl that won't even have anal

Is like really into that book and she's like oh tie me up But with silk scarves You know like is that really bondage Give me a break do you know I mean I think it's so tried to be. I never read it. But I'm not really into that. But what I'm really into is starting a service,

this is what I think, because now that I realize that so many of these guys have these secret lives and everything, and most likely they are going to die on a business trip or something when they're out of thing, I think that I should start a business,

like a cleanup service, you know, where, listen, so, you know, I make them pay a retainer of a lot of money so that the minute they get off somewhere, whether they get murdered or they die and, you know, fucking a hooker in Brazil, Like we get on it, like immediately, and we clean up the mess. Sort of like a maid service.

Yeah, the second life cover-up service. Oh my God, I love that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Second life. But you're going to have to have... Because it's like all online because it's all virtual. Secret life cover-up service. But you're going to have offices wherever these guys are.

I will have agents all over there. Well, yeah, because they travel, right? So we have to like, we get a call that this guy, you know, died in, you know, the hooker-ha in Brazil. And then we got to go over there. We got to get his boss. out of the hooker hut, bring it to the hotel, clean up the mess, kill the hard drives, call up AT&T, pay someone off to erase the phone, yeah, like it has to be a total cleanup service so that at least when, you know, they're all at the funeral, his whole reputation, it's not just for

the family, it's also for him, like these guys are very successful and they do these really great things and they have these little things that they like to do on the side, which is fine. I'm not judging that, okay? I don't have a problem with the fact that he's into this shit on the side. Like he could do whatever he wants. The problem is other people have a problem. So when he dies and other people find out, they will dismiss everything he did in his life

and he will forever be known as the guy with whips and chains in his chunk. And he'll be laughed at. And it's like a total disservice to yourself. And if I had a friend that was doing this and he died, I would want to do him like the service of cleaning up his life so that people would never know and would never judge him and, you know, define him by this little part of his life. So I need to set up that thing.

You should. A great idea that maybe I shouldn't even like air this episode because someone's going to steal the idea. It's kind of like a PR person for like dead rich people. You would have to hire some like ex-Navy seal people or whatever. Oh, I was thinking hot girls. Ooh, like a James Bond. I don't know why. I mean, because they're dead and it's not like a.

But yeah, I was thinking. Cussie galore. Yeah, totally. I just, but getting back to the caller, I just don't, you know, I get the whole sexiness. of what the girl looks like in the, you know, the bond. I don't even think they care about what the girl looks like, do they? But the bondage, like, you know, outfits and stuff. I get that, but the appeal.

But, you know, I see it as like Dungeons and Dragons for adults. Like, you know what I mean? It's just like this live roleplay stuff. When I was in college, I bartended at this bar. And once a month, they did, like, on a Sunday night, they did like a fetish party. And I was like, fuck it. I need the work. I'll bartend.

thinking it's going to be, you know, they're going to drink a lot. First of all, they don't drink. They don't drink. Okay. They all drink like water and stuff because they want to be like. Very fully present. Yeah. Okay, well, that's okay.

I don't drink. I get it. I get it. I could never not drink. Well, from a bartender standpoint, it's suck. Oh, yeah. That made no money. So my first experience was this woman comes with a guy has a saddle on his back.

She's riding him around the dance floor. But he's like standing up. Are they naked? No, he's got like a little leather. Chaps? Yeah, but with his cock hanging out? These aren't like hot, gorgeous looking people, all right? So she comes over to the bar, gets off, dismounts off this guy.

Has she naked? And she goes, wait, is she naked? No, she's got like boots on and she has like pants, like riding pants and like a like a bikini-style top. How old are these people? They are in their 40s and 50s. They're in their 40s and their 50s. And you're in college? Yeah, I'm like 19, 20.

and I was just like, this is fucked up. So she comes... Because they were old or because they were riding like the sat. Like if they were 22, would it have been hot? I don't know. That's a little scary. When you're 19 to be seeing like grandparents. Yeah, if I saw a bunch of hot people.

Grandparents having sex in a bar. Like, that's scary. So she comes over to the bar with her horse and he's doing all horse noises and stuff. And she goes, oh, can I get some water for my horse? I was like, all right, whatever. I'm fucking here. I'll do it. So I poured a cup of water and I gave it to her and she looked at me like, no, she looked at me and she goes, oh silly, horses can't drink out of cups.

I was like, bitch, it's a fucking guy with a mask on. So I had to fill up my tip bucket with water. Did she tip me for that? No. I gave her the tip bucket and this guy went over the corner and like drank. Isn't a regular college bar? No, it was a nightclub in downtown Hartford. Yeah, that doesn't even.

That is even beyond this. It was a dance club. Okay, but this doesn't sound like this kind of bonded shit. That just sounds like a weird fetish. No, no, no. They had horseplay. That sounds funny, right? Horseplay.

They had horseplay. They had like flogging. It was like a like was the night being hosted at the lounge or this? Yeah, you had to pay to get in. Oh, okay. And it was on a Sunday and Sunday night. So it wasn't like the club was regularly open. Right.

So it wasn't like, hey, I'm going to go watch the game. This is a fucking. fat bitch getting smacked by a guy no it was closed and you had to come and they had like like the guy said trade shows they had people selling stuff it was just it's too much on top of all the stuff you got to do in life it's just like i just want to get laid and go home yeah no i think sex is there's so many things to do during sex that are so much fun that i don't know why you need to add like writing essays into it i think that just that would that's like a cock block to me kathy when we get off the show i want you to write an essay

You could go. And don't yell at me. I was not texting before. I know. I'm sorry. I'm just moving. Yeah, but with the caller, he's probably like, oh, this guy really thinks I'm boring. No, he was probably like, oh, she should probably be a dom.

He was probably turned off because he knew I'm not a submissive bitch. I don't care. But you're right. Absolutely. I apologize. And if you have to tax, sometimes you do. And I shouldn't say those things to you. So whatever, I find, like, listen, I'm like not the average person.

I'm so curious. It's like maybe a sickness. I'm like obsessed with Google. That's all I ever do. I love to know about everything and anything. Not just sex stuff. I mean, that's what we talk about a lot here on the show,

but I like to know about everything. But these kind of things are fascinating. So for me, I felt like you were checking out a little bit with him. You weren't that interested. That's fine. I did. Because you're more normal, okay?

But for me, I'm interested in everything. I could have talked to him for another, you know, hour and a half. I don't know anything about the world. I probably never will. It's not even that I care about it, but I just find it interesting. How would not know anything about the world? You've traveled a lot.

No, that world. Oh, that world. You don't want to know about that world. Yes, I do. I find it interesting. It's his world. It's real. It exists.

So let's do some R&D one night. Let's go to the Trapeze Club. No, I don't necessarily. Smells in here, I'm leaving. No, I feel like there's probably a very small percentage of any one of those kind of like hardcore populations that are doing it in a very healthy way. I think you probably meet some swingers that it's just like a real like a swingers or dominant. Like I don't think anything's wrong with any of those. things. I just think most of it is really dark

and sort of dirty, but I think that there's some people that do it that aren't, and it's just a healthy sort of part of their life, and it's okay, but I think it's the darkness and the creepy weirdos that I would not be interested in. So, I have no desire to get that into it. I used to go, I had a boyfriend once who

we went to a nude beach, and you know, it's kind of the same thing, it's this world, right? And you go there, and it was like very nudie everything. Like, it was like you get there and people invite you to nudy vacations and nudy picnics, and everyone's very into being nude. And it was hot and I was a turn on and it was a lot of things but I just didn't want to take it to that you know to that next level to me that was too but I didn't even I quit brownies like I don't like any

kind of group anything do you know what I mean like I'm just not into group anything whether it's you quit brownies yeah I did I thought it was so effing weird like it was like everyone like you had to walk around with can I remember I don't know if this is like some weirdo memory or if it was true but I think no I really think I don't care I was weird to me you had to like walk around with candles and you got badges and it was like all this groups it was so creepy like a cult i didn't like it and i quit to join the boys club it wasn't just a boys club but like you could do puzzles and go swimming there and yeah i quit browns i've never been a group person i don't like to engage in any kind of group activities i don't want to go to picnics i don't even like to go to other people's parties unless i'm hosting

something i'm just not interested i guess that's why you're on freak flag radio that's why i'm the host and not the guest. Yeah. So that's it. So I found him interesting. I, you know, love all these people that call. It's fascinating to me. But I think you're a good gauge of like, you know, maybe the normal person. Yeah. I mean, it was just too much.

I mean. Okay, it's not your thing, but it's his thing and he's into it. I didn't tell him and we couldn't give him advice, but I think my advice, I think what he didn't, what he failed to hear, which he's not that smart is that my advice was to get that shit. Don't bury your shit in the backyard. Yeah, get that

shit out of your trunk. Seriously. No, it's good advice. It's not even if he gets caught. It's when he, I believe when he dies, that stuff is going to be in there. And then his wife and kids are going to have to deal with that memory.

And if not the public, we don't know how successful he is. If that shit gets out and he's like... Yeah, save the family from the black eye of your... And your own reputation when you're dead in the ground. What do you want to be remembered for? Being a great dad and a great businessman, a good provider, or being, you know...

busted dead with cocaine and 16-year-olds in Thailand. No, you don't want that. No, you don't. Because people make a mockery of that because people think it's the joke. So, you know, I'm going to set up my service. I will maybe offer it to him. I think I do like a million dollar retainer and then a monthly fee. And that's why we have to have like private jets and shit because we got to like fly out and clean up those.

You're going to need a lot of clients. I'm more excited about that. Listen, there's like top 1% of men that have that kind of money or living those kind of lives. And $1 million isn't a lot of money to them. And I'm sure that they. would have no problem paying it. Okay. Okay.

I'm going to work on that. I'm here. All right, till next time. I don't know who are, no. I have a guy that's supposed to call. I can't even pronounce his name. It's some sort of Indian name, and he's 19 years old. He says he's a 19-year-old black guy, and he's looking to figure out how to masturbate longer.

And I just started Googling because I don't even know what that means. What do you mean? Like, for a guy? Because it's a guy, right? Girls and guys jerk off differently. Like, for you, if someone says, I need to masturbate longer, what does that mean to you? Like, does he mean he wants to not take, like, like, like come so quickly?

Yeah, he wants to prolong. But when you're 19, how long does, does the sensitivity of your wean, like, take, like, go, you know, get stronger as you get older, right? The first time it happens, it's like. One second. No, but it's like the feeling is so intense. Right. But now when you get older, you're married or something. Forget about that.

I'm talking about just when you're jerking off. This is nothing to do with sex. Yeah, you wanted to do. I don't know. I think when you get older, you just want it to go quicker. Just come on. He doesn't, though, Tommy. I need to know when you're 19, do you have issues?

Do you remember having issues? Absolutely. So it goes too fast? But it is. It's, uh, what, what's it called? Premature ejaculation. Premature ejaculation. When you jerk off, I don't know.

This is my whole point is, let's discuss this too much now. Let's discuss it next time. But, you know, I get all of my information from Google. It's like Google University. Because I don't really know. I don't know anything about this, but you're a guy and you jerked off and you were 19. And so think of some ideas about how he could jerk off longer if we, you know, I don't even know what that means. But we'll find out next time next week.

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It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com.

And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. This is the Strictly Anonymous podcast. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Strictly anonymous.