Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 005 - John Wants to Watch his Wife Have Sex with Other Guys

Episode Date: January 12, 2014

John's wife Stephanie used to be very promiscuous before he married her and he loves to hear stories about her having sex with other guys. Now he actually wants to watch her have sex with other guys. ...Can he get her into it? Will she bang other guys in front of him? It seems like maybe she already has. Listen in to hear the detials of what they've been doing to spice up their sex life.    **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. Craigslist is definitely the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to stay a poor or Thailand. You can't not do it. The temptation is just too much.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Real problem. Does your friend know that you're banging her? No, he has no idea. And anything goes. The motto of the show, let your reflect lie. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to re-hide your whips and check. Here are your hosts, Kathy Kay and Tommy. Hey, Tommy.
Starting point is 00:00:37 How are you, too? Good. How are you, Kathy? I'm okay. I had a crazy day. What happened? I'll tell you in a second, but I wanted to, aren't you curious of who we have on the call? I am a little, yes.
Starting point is 00:00:49 I haven't even told you anything. I feel like I tell other people more. You just show up, and I think it's better that way. Yes. Do you know what I mean? I just show up. Yeah. Do my thing and leave.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Exactly. I posted an ad on Craigslist, Sanford. A couple ads. In the same, you know, typical places, casual encounters, romance, women for men, that kind of shit. And I got a lot of responses. I've done it in another city. From San Francisco? Totally.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Yeah. It was as good as New York. And I had a guy that I was obsessed with. Seriously. And he didn't want to call in. And his probably, he's not calling in. He has this issue where his wean, his dick, his cock. I don't know what word you want to use for.
Starting point is 00:01:33 I like wean. Ween, yeah, because it's not sexual. I like cock if it's like sexual a wean. Junk? Junk? Junk is junk? Like junk in the trunk? No, like my junk.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Okay, well his junk, this was his problem. His junk. Okay, and supposedly he was like a prominent dude in San Francisco, so he couldn't call in because people would know his voice. Did you tell him the show was called Strictly Anonymous? Yeah, and I even begged him, because he was so good and his story was so interesting to me. I was like, I could use, you know, I really don't want to get him on to make fun of him.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Like, this is the stuff that's interesting to me. I was like, we'll put an effect on your voice. I could totally do that on garage band. I could affect people's voices. So they sound like, you know, on day. Like they had like a tracheotomy or something? Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:19 So it could really be even that anonymous. But he wasn't into it. This was his email. The subject line said no fishing, which was hilarious once you hear his problem. It's like, I have a rather unusual problem that I'm. I'm sure is pretty rare, but surely some of their guys out there have had to deal with it. I'm unusually long. And when I sit on most toilets, I'm in the water if I go inside.
Starting point is 00:02:43 And I tend to dribble a little on the floor if I go outside. I mean, I guess if his ween is stuck between his legs or not. Okay. Right? I guess I solved the problem at home by adjusting the float in my toilet to lower the water level. And I don't worry much about it in public restrooms. but I hate to deal with at friends' houses, especially if they have carpet in the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:03:04 I've tried catching it with toilet paper, and this works sometimes, but just as often the stream will go off to the side a little bit, and I make a mess. Any suggestions? Now, I mean, you don't think this is fascinating. His dick is too long. So what's the problem?
Starting point is 00:03:19 He gets wet and he makes a mess. Maybe he's OCD. I don't know. To me, there was no problem. I just wanted to see this long-ass week. You wanted to see his dick. I tried to get pictures of it. And he wanted to.
Starting point is 00:03:30 of trying to hit on me. We have like an email exchange like 15 of them back and forth. Maybe I'll post them on Facebook because it's like fascinating this stuff. You know, I was doing it all just so you know for the podcast. Yeah, sure. No, I swear to God. And was the last email when or if you're going to be in the New York metropolitan area? No, he got mad at me because he was complaining. Like I knew his angle. Okay. I'm like a chess player when it comes to God. Like I could play the fucking I could see his moves five things away. Okay. This guy. was angling me to get me interested in him because he was like complaining about how huge his cock was. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Like he's thinking like, you know, I'm going to be turned on by that and I'm going to try and like hook up with him because of it. So he's whining in like five emails. He's whining about how big it is and all these women give him such a problem and people just come to see him and nobody likes him for him. It's like, you know, a guy with too much money, but this guy's dick is too big. And he also told you he's like somebody special, right? Yeah, so that's part of the psycho, like the psych out, right? My dick is too big and it's a problem and I can't call you because I'm a famous person. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:38 There's all these things. He's trying to like, you know. So then eventually he says like, you kind of, I could tell you're a woman just by your emails and like I'm curious. You know, and so he starts to talk to me. But I keep it very professional because I'm not interested in like beating somebody in and trying to. I wasn't going to, I could have totally played the game and pretended I was into him and to get the dick pick. but I don't work that way, you know, because that would be rude. And I was just wanted it for the show and wanted to do it on the up and up.
Starting point is 00:05:04 And I was like, hey, listen, dude, would you send a picture of Big Ween? Like, it would be great for the show because he wanted me to read that email on. And he got really mad at me. We had our first fight. It's like we're dating ready. We had our first fight and then I dumped him because he emailed me back and then I never emailed him again. So we've gone through the whole cycle. Digpick guys.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I like Digpick guys. I don't really care. I can't wait to have one on. But we had our first argument. He got very upset with me. He's like, I've sent so many emails. I'm so disappointed in you. I told you so many times that women just want me for my big wean. And now you're asking me for it.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Like, I can't believe that you had the nerve. And so then I cleaned it up. I was very good at cleaning him up. And then he was back interested in me. And then I blew him off. It's nice. Yeah, because like, you know. Lead them in and then you stake them.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Yeah, like you're not going to dump me. Yeah, I'm going to dump you first. Yeah, exactly. Especially if I can't get a pick of the we. Like, what's the point of the issue? People are going to want to know how long is so long that you touch the toilet. That's long. Is it long?
Starting point is 00:06:04 Is it long? How far is your wean away from the water? If you sit down on the toilet, because I'm assuming like when you shit, this is only a shitting problem, right? I mean, I don't have one. So when you're shitting, do your feet together or apart and is there your dick go down or does it go up on your legs? It depends. I mean, if it's the morning and you wake up with a heart on, maybe, you're not really touching. water, you're touching the inside of the
Starting point is 00:06:28 bowl. That's what I have the problem with. Ew, your dick touches the inside of the bowl? Yeah, like if you, you wake up with like morning wood. Uh-huh, and you have to shit. And you have to use, yeah, if you have to sit down. Because this is the only way, you're only sitting down to go number two. I'm trying to
Starting point is 00:06:44 show it to you. Yeah. You have to sit and then lean back and kind of like leverage it in. Because it's hard. Because it's hard. Wait, wait, can't you just close your legs and keep it up above? your legs? No, because when you go number two,
Starting point is 00:06:59 you have to, like, praise yourself. You always get a little, you always get a little sprinkle. What do you mean? You always pee too. Oh, oh, shit. See, I as a woman would never know this. And I feel like most people are listening
Starting point is 00:07:10 are guys and they find that's really boring. But this is, I could talk about this for 20 minutes. Yeah, no, your ass says to your dick, like, hey, listen. We're both here. Let's get this over with. Okay, okay, okay. All right, okay. So you just, it touches, but never does it.
Starting point is 00:07:24 I'm assuming it's flaccid when this is happening. So it's really long. Yeah. So if he's soft and it's hitting water, yeah. That's some big shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I had a guy once. My friend knew that I was into Big Weans and she's like, oh, I'm going to introduce you to my ex-boyfriend. He's hung like a horse. And I just thought, okay, like a typical big one, you know. This thing was like a baby's arm. Nice. Where to God.
Starting point is 00:07:49 I was looking at it like a science project and he was like, listen, if you keep talking about it, it's not going to get any harder. And I was like, this is not as hard. as it's got like I've never seen any it wasn't even like a it wasn't even like a deformity it was like an arm it had no head it was so wide it was the weirdest thing and he was married I can't say who he was married to he was married to a very famous actress for many years and whenever I see her on anything I'm always like how does that bitch walk properly because I know for a fact she fucked him and she fucked that and I don't know how anyone does that because it was literally like the size
Starting point is 00:08:21 did you did you bang him no I didn't even do anything with him he was so dumb I could didn't get, no, this is the worst thing about him. He was gorgeous. He kind of looked like Tommy Lee. He was very, very good looking. He was one time a Ford model. He was married to this famous actress for many years. But I was with him when it was like a washed-up accent.
Starting point is 00:08:38 It's like charades. You're naming everything about him. I can't say. I don't want to say because then you would be able to put the pieces together. And he lives at this address. No, and he was really stupid, like so dumb. But this was the worst thing. If you're dumb and you don't have a lot of opinions
Starting point is 00:08:53 and you don't know anything about politics or anything worldly, that's fine. But if you're dumb and you want to talk about politics for two hours with me, I can't even listen. It was so stupid. Like his views, points and stuff. It was so hard to let it. Even drunk, this is when I was drinking.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I was not into him. I bet you could have been like, all right, I'll listen to you what you have to say, but you have to talk with your pants off. No, I wanted to talk about the size of his dick. Like I was, I was perplexed just like I want. I was more curious about it than turned on. And he wasn't into my curiosity. I think that was like a buzz.
Starting point is 00:09:26 kill and probably a cock block and that was fine with me he was too dumb um but anyway the guy that we have calling in today we're going to call him john um that's what he wants to be called i found him in new york he's a new york guy and he's calling in about uh his wife stephan now john i know for a fact is 55 and stephanie is younger than him i don't know how much younger than him um what he wrote to me is i'm in my early 50s married. This is my second marriage and I married a younger woman who had a very promiscuous past unlike me. I love hearing her stories which she used to enjoy but not anymore.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And now I'm dying to see her have sex with another man. Nice. She isn't into it. Yeah. So this guy is a guy that married a much younger girl who's like totally, I guess, slutty in her past and would tell him all these kind of crazy. Now he wants her to be slutty, which is very odd to me because it's very rare that you find men that want to do this kind of stuff with their wife.
Starting point is 00:10:19 I couldn't. I don't know. there's something in me with, you know, with my wife or somebody who I was dating. I don't know. I just didn't want to see them being banged by somebody else. No, not at all. Even thinking about them. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Right. And I know women, like my friend once dated this girl who loved to do that. It was like her idea, not the, you know, in front of her boyfriends or whatever. And to me, it's like torturous. But it's very, that's a very weird thing. That's why I can't wait to pick his brain. I find it fascinating, especially because it's his wife. I feel like a lot of guys,
Starting point is 00:10:51 if they want to do something like that, they separate it. You know, it's that Madonna whore thing. If they want to see a girl fucking out, they're going to do it with some bitch they pick up at a bar, not their wife. No, absolutely not. I had a guy, he's in my book.
Starting point is 00:11:05 He's a couple chapters because he comes in and out of my life and he was a blazing alcoholic by the time I actually got to date him. And there were a couple times, like three times, and this is the only guy, and I slept with a lot of guys in my life
Starting point is 00:11:16 because I've basically mostly been single. And that three different times, while we were having sex, his friends came in and tried to join in. And even in my drunkenness, because this is, I was drinking when I was with it. I was like, get the fuck out of here. I wasn't into it. Wow. Never did you guys.
Starting point is 00:11:32 I wasn't into it at all. But apparently his friends were. And these were all different friends. And I'm like, what kind of scumb out? Like, I don't, of all the guys I ever been with, I never had that sort of situation. And he was just like, Kathy, they're just trying to see if you, you know, you would be into it. It was like not. I wasn't into it at all.
Starting point is 00:11:48 They were fishing. They were what? They were fishing. Did you ever do a girl with another guy? No, I never did a girl with another guy. No, I was in the room where other people were having sex as well, like an orgy. Yeah, well, anyone that drinks has been taking part in an orgy in New York. I mean, like, you know, just everyone winds up back at a house and everyone, people are filling around.
Starting point is 00:12:13 If your question is, if I ever cross swords, no, I never crossed swords. Is that what they call it? That's what they call it. Crossing swords? Crossing swords. Like double team or double tag? What is it? DP,
Starting point is 00:12:24 DP, double penetration. Yeah, you never did. No, a couple of my, you know, a lot of my buddies always had double teamed girls. And the rule is just don't cross swords. Right, right. I think a lot of guys might not be into it because I think it's like a gay thing. But I could imagine that totally heterosexual guys would do it and be into it for other reasons.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I don't think it means that you're gay. No. You know? No. Just because do straight guys not even. want to see another sword. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I just not, I mean, different strokes, different folks. It's not something I would be into. Really? Can I just talk about something else while we're waiting for him to call? Other swords. No, I have a bone to pick. Well, not. With you, it's really not your fault. I have bad grammar.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Okay. As smart as I am, my IQ has tested when I was younger is 1.40. So I am smart. You're a genius. Yeah, but the weird thing is I have two things to critique about myself. Because I listen to the podcast all the time. Okay. I just want you to know.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Like, everyone should. No, that Tommy never listens to them because he's very self-conscious. I don't want to know anything. I'm just going to keep going. You're just here. Rub me or leave me. What do you ever you got to do? Right.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I listen to them all the time because I have to mix them down and do everything. And sometimes I do come across a sounding conceited. And I don't ever would think that that's a word to use for me. You? No, it's like embarrassing. Like I went off on the, I was talking about that I went to the gym and all the guys want me and I look so great. It's like I was embarrassed for myself.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Wait. Hold on. No, I've never been. What are you trying to say? I've never been called conceded. I know what I am. And I've been called a lot of things. And listen, if you're called a lot of things and you're like, you start to realize, okay, 50 people called me the same thing.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I probably am that. I've never been called conceded. So who's this number 49? No one called it to me. I'm calling myself. No one said it to me. You're not conceded. I mean, but you do.
Starting point is 00:14:12 You know. No, I mean. Confident? You're confident. You know what it was with the gym thing? It came across like I, look so great at the gym and other girls. It's only because I don't sweat.
Starting point is 00:14:22 If I did aerobics like the other girls, I would look like shit too and be horrified. Yeah, but it's kind of hot when you see a chick coming out, sweating. I know. I don't do that. Anyway, that really wasn't what I want to talk about. What I really wanted to rank on myself for was the fact that I, and you didn't catch this. And this is why I'm mad at you. Okay, shoot.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Okay, because you should be like the grammar and police here because my grammar sucks. I never listened in school. I was thrown out of three high schools. That's another story. We'll talk about that one other day. But, you know, I say lozenger. And I said lozinger like five times on a call that my friend, one of my best friends, he's very viciously smart and he's very into grammar.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Okay. Okay, he is the grammar police. Now I'm like, thinking how I say it. I was saying lozinger. I said it 10 times and you didn't say it. And I learned that for my mother. What are you supposed to say? You want to know?
Starting point is 00:15:15 Yeah. Maybe it's a Jersey thing because me and Tommy are both from Jersey. You say lozinger too? I say lozinger. Yeah. It's a fucking lozinger. I say lozinger. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:15:28 I'm going to have to say, screw them. It's lozinger. Okay. Well, I really wanted to, you know, whenever I have a debate in my head or I don't know something or I want to figure something out, you know me. I Google. So I went to Google before I texted him back because he was trashing me on the text with Lozinger.
Starting point is 00:15:44 And at first I called my sister. to be like, do I say lozinger, right? And she's like, oh, we learn that from mom. Like, you know, apparently my mom doesn't even know the right word, and that's how I got taught. So I went on to Linen and I googled Losinger or Losage, and I found this guy who wrote this. Losinger, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:16:01 Even though it's always written Loszinge, it seems like half the people pronounce it Losinger. I've been hearing this for years. Just the other day I was listening to Faith Hill unplugged while introducing a song in concert. She had a sore throat and said, I'm sucking on my lozinger. Why just this word?
Starting point is 00:16:18 There aren't any other words that get a ghost R added on the end, are there? So apparently other people are irritated by people that say lozinger. By the way, Faith Hill thinks it's called a lozinger. So I don't know if you want to Google it. Does she grow up in New Jersey? Is it a Jersey thing? No, Faith Hill is like a country singer, right? I know.
Starting point is 00:16:38 So I don't know. But it's wrong. It's very wrong, by the way. Me, you and Faith Hill don't know the proper. lozange. I think it sounds like a dumb word. I think it sounds stupid that way. Do you want to go with lozenge? I'm going to stick with lozinger. I'm sticking with lozinger. I never say the word. You're going to teach your son lozenges. Yeah. Like when you give them a ludens. What was those things called those coughs? The honey ones that you could eat like candy. Oh stop. Honey ones were the disgusting. It was the strawberry ones. No, I couldn't have red as a kid. Why? I was allergic to red. I was allergic to red food guy. Seriously?
Starting point is 00:17:20 All the shitty allergies to have, being allergic to red dye number five or 40 or whatever it was was pretty fucking bad. Yeah, terrible. And you know how we found out? Huh. You made some redhaws. No, you know when you were like real little and you had like a cold, they gave you a moxacosilin?
Starting point is 00:17:39 Yeah. And the bubble gum flavor, they don't make it anymore. Remember it was like bubble gum liquid? No, but okay. Okay, well, it was like a pink. Uh-huh. And they gave it to me. Okay, but they gave it to me.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And I broke out in hives and everything. So they thought I was allergic to penicillin. Because I am and that's what I get. That's what I was going to say. Exactly. So anyway, they gave me the non-penicillin fixer, which was a pill and it didn't have the red dye and it was fine. Fast forward through the winter, it was summertime, well, spring, whatever. my cousin's house
Starting point is 00:18:15 We came in My aunt made us Two huge glasses of Hawaiian punch Uh huh Boom I was like I don't feel so good And she had like golf balls All over my head and my face
Starting point is 00:18:27 Yeah But you eventually worked out of that So now if I have a little I'm okay But if I ate like a handful of Marasino cherries Right I would get hives Nothing where my throat closes up
Starting point is 00:18:38 Just hives Interesting You know how much fucking candy as a kid Is a kid is made out of red dye number five. Yeah, totally. You can't even need Twizzlers. I like Twizzlers.
Starting point is 00:18:46 They were very red. That's why I became a black licorice fan. I like black licorice too. There's one at the health food store that's gluten-free, wheat-free, like everything free, and it's amazing. And it's really good for iron. The other thing I wanted to tell you about Tommy, I hate that you don't listen to the podcast because I finally got our intro.
Starting point is 00:19:03 I mean, by the time people hear this, this is going to be our seventh week. And like our intro is already on there. But I got it done, and it sounds really great. And they talk about Tommy as a host. And I just feel like if you ever quit or I have to fire you, every one of my hosts in the future are going to have to be called Tommy because you are now timestamped into the intro. So no throwing a tantrum and saying,
Starting point is 00:19:25 I'm going to leave if you yell at me because I'm late. Like we can't have that because you are now in my intro. Or else I'm going to have to hire another guy and it doesn't matter what his name is, he's going to have to be called Tommy. I don't care. Your name's Bill. It's Tommy. It has to be Tommy because I had the guy do it and now it's in there, Kathy and Tommy.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I think we've worked out our problems. Yeah, you're committed. You know what commitment. is, right? You have a partner at work, right? Yeah. Exactly. And you can't fucking stand him. That's a different series of shows. No, but I mean, you can't, I don't care about the specifics, but the point is you can't stand him, right? And you deal with a lot of problems. I have partners in certain things.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yeah. And I can't stand them sometimes and you deal with positive and negative, but that's called commitment, right? That's what you do because you have to put up with it to do what you want. So here, no matter what happens between us. We're in. We're in. We're in it to win it. Yeah, exactly. So we'll be right back with what's his name again? John. John and his wife is Stephanie. We don't know how old she is. He's 55.
Starting point is 00:20:21 He wants to see her screw another guy. We got to find out what type of guy. Oh yeah, I wouldn't even think that. I'm curious of a lot of things. Is he a white guy and he wants to see his wife with an African-American guy or is he an African-American guy? He wants to see his wife with a Chinese guy? We've got to ask these questions. I know.
Starting point is 00:20:42 We will. Well, you remember your question. and I'll have my questions. And we'll be right back with John talking about quote unquote Stephanie. Nice. Okay. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show?
Starting point is 00:21:07 Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com with your story and your anonymous name and remember everything is strictly anonymous strictly anonymous hi this is kathy is this john it is kathy this is john how are you good how you doing john you're on with me and my co-host tommy hi john how you doing thank you for being so punctual finishing up a meeting and i made it to my room in a phone with about 30 seconds to spare so i'm glad i'm not late perfect so um i read tommy your email and of course we have a bunch of questions for you because I know you're 55 and you said that your wife, Stephanie's your wife, right? That is correct.
Starting point is 00:22:02 And she's your second wife, and you said she's younger than you. How old is she? She's 39. And when you say she had a promiscuous past, what does that mean? Like, was she, like, really promiscuous. It was like she was an escort or something like that, or she just, like, slept around and told you her crazy stories? More or the latter.
Starting point is 00:22:19 She did actually consider being an escort at one point. Uh-huh. Tommy Love for some reason. you can't see Tommy, but he just thought that that made her awesome. Yeah, that's great. Wait, so okay, she wanted to be an escort at one time. Keep going. She got talked out of it by a couple of friends because of the seedy side of that whole thing.
Starting point is 00:22:44 At that point, she had broken up with a boyfriend and she was sleeping with so many guys. She just thought she might as well get paid for it. Right, but she doesn't understand that you got to sleep with like really ugly guys. I had a friend who had a friend who was an escort and, you know, these guys, were like gross and they had bad breath and it's not like you know i don't think it's like what it's cracked up to be yeah she she thought it was you know she thought it'd be like she could pick and go right but just getting paid for it yeah exactly um okay so you so she was so when you say promiscuous what do you mean by that like what were those stories that she used to tell you that
Starting point is 00:23:18 you used to like well um i'll sort of give you a couple of quick anecdotes i mean at one point um she comment she made she did kind of retract it later but she said that she's sure she's been with hundreds of guys. Right. Wow. When she tried to retract it, was she like, oh, it was only 25? Or did she, like, say it was only a hundred? Like, what did she go from hundreds to what?
Starting point is 00:23:43 A hundred? Yeah, exactly. Well, I mean, she's right. Right. She kind of decided that she didn't want to really tell me stories anymore, and they don't believe her, but that's a whole other story. There can't. Of course there's more.
Starting point is 00:24:05 She just doesn't remember them. You know, those are the 40 or 50 are probably just her greatest month. Yeah, exactly. And she, I mean, long story short, It was kind of junior year of college to about maybe, you know, 33, 35. It was a lot of years in there, and she just, you know, she lived life. She rock and roll, she yoloed. Rock and rolling, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:27 She was single most of those years? Yeah, she had a couple of steady boyfriends for a couple of years in there, although she did tell me certain stories where she had cheated on them. But she was kind of like, you know, but she didn't sleep with anybody until her first boyfriend in college. You dated him for two years. They had a lot of sex just them. And the moment they broke up, she, like, slept with everybody. Yeah, it went on like a jail break.
Starting point is 00:24:54 That's what happens when you keep it pent up for so long. Or he could have really hurt her bad, and then she, like, acted out. Maybe, I don't know, because that's a little weird. Well, it's actually, and the old breaking out, she was a, came from a very religious family. Jail break. No, but my father was a priest, and I was so. Jail break. No, but I was promiscuous from day one.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I never jail break I was just you know so that I mean I think you could go either way with that kind of background
Starting point is 00:25:23 she's a very she's like one of these she's a very extreme personality so I say she was religious she was carrying around
Starting point is 00:25:31 the Bible I mean she was oh interesting I wish Stephanie was on this call yeah she was in college telling you
Starting point is 00:25:37 talking to two in the morning telling people how to find God I mean it was that it was that extreme and she was committed to never having sex
Starting point is 00:25:44 until she got married and that was I'm never having sex until I get married. And then basically her mother told her she was crazy. Come on, people have sex. And her boyfriend was trying to talk her into it. So she did it. And she loved it.
Starting point is 00:25:57 And then just, like, caught the bug. And it was a jail break with one person. She opened up in the floodgates. But as soon as that was over, it was. Right. She just commits, like, wholeheartedly to anything. So when she was a virgin, she was 100% a virgin. When she was into sex, she was really into sex.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Yeah. Right. That's exactly it. Yeah. Right. She's black and white. So now, Where are you guys in your relationship?
Starting point is 00:26:20 How long have you been married for? I need to know a little backstory. How long have you guys been married for? Almost five years. And how long did you know her before you married her? About five years. So we're in the nine, 10 year category kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Right. Okay. And so when you met her, were you still married or you met her when you were already divorced? Of course. Right, right. But you were already gone with your wife.
Starting point is 00:26:44 And you guys dated for five years. Did the whole conversation about having her have sex with another guy come up recently? Or have you been trying to have this happen for a while? A couple years probably, maybe two and a half years. And it all came up. It's kind of weird the way it came up, but we were having sex. And she doesn't have an orgasm.
Starting point is 00:27:14 You mean she needs her clit stimulated? I dated somebody like that. Yeah. And so she gave me the whole, again, she did everything to the extreme. So she had analyzed a study that researched at 400 ways of Sunday. Well, I like Stephanie. I don't believe me, a lot of that I think is great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:31 You know, like when she calls me up and she thinks the aliens are landing tomorrow, it gets a little extreme. Yeah, that's a little more. And then she's really into aliens for the next five days. Yeah, I totally got her personality. Go on. What happened was she asked me. Like, hey, had I been with women who had vaginal orgasms, whatever, and my ex did, and I've only been before her, you know, maybe five or six people.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I said, yeah, pretty much all of them did. And I just was answering the question. Believe me, the sex with her was better than anybody. But it actually flipped her out. Like she was, oh, my, you know, it must have been better with them. And she's going on and so I tried to turn the conversation back to, hey, well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Sex with you is amazing. And said, and you're not having an organ, what can I do to help?
Starting point is 00:28:17 Like, we'll work on this. Right. And her answer was, I've been with a lot of guys. And I've been with a lot of really big dicks. so there's nothing you can do about it. And that was like the first time, I was like, oh, okay. That's like a shot across to bow.
Starting point is 00:28:31 And I was like, I didn't know she was trying to hurt me or be mean or whatever, but then it just sort of prompted me to go, you've got to explain that. And over the next, I don't know, a few months. It just, I mean, she had a friend over one night who hated all men. And she said, yeah, I've been with so many guys and men are great. I don't know why you hate men. And I'm like, you know, now you're saying me in front of people. So I kind of pushed and I got, you know, got more the answer.
Starting point is 00:28:53 and at first I was a little bit like, wow, you know, this, I kind of, maybe I'm a little old fashion, I used to think of your woman as sacred. She wasn't a virgin until you. No, he obviously knew she wasn't. You knew she wasn't because you knew her for five years before you married her. I don't really care what anyone does before they meet you. I mean, I agree with that, but it became so much. You mean so much of her past that she was talking about?
Starting point is 00:29:26 Oh, I just on and on. Like, I mean, she would just, in the early 20s, she was a dancer. I mean, it's the hip hop dancer. She was a choreographer. She was in that world. And she would just, like, every night she'd go to a club and pick up a different guy. I mean, it was. Did she have her Bible with her?
Starting point is 00:29:40 No. No, she left the Bible in college. She left that back. Right. Yeah, but so she started to comply or let you know that it. Did she have vaginal orgasm with other guys and just not with you? Is that what she was trying to say? No.
Starting point is 00:29:54 No. She's never, she's never had a vaginal orgasm orgasm. hasn't with anybody with all the guys she's been with. So why did she have to bring up that these other guys had such big dicks? Like, I don't know to get it. Well, because I think I asked her, well, can I do something? Or am I just not touching it? Right.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Different's not going to matter. Yeah, absolutely. But how does that turn into you wanting to see her get banged by another guy? Well, it started getting the stories from her. Mm-hmm. We would have sex. It was actually, it was great. Totally.
Starting point is 00:30:43 It was like a turn-on. Yeah. I get turned on by one. years. Yeah, and I kind of went from like, oh, wow, my wife's been with a lot of guys to, well, I, you know, I head up to marriage. I knew she was very sexual. That's one of the things they love about her, so just go with it, right? And, and that's kind of what we did. Now, but what happened was kind of like, you know, 40 or 50 stories in, I'm like enjoying it, and she's kind of like starting to get the point like, enough, you know, why the hell do you have to
Starting point is 00:31:11 keep hearing about my stories? And I'm like, well, because we were doing this together and it's kind of fun. And I don't want to do it anymore. She was bored of the story. I mean, How long did it take for 40 or 50 stories? I mean, were you guys telling stories for like a year or two years? Probably about a year. Okay, so she was done with the stories. She was done with the stories. But you were at?
Starting point is 00:31:32 And I wasn't, but it was, again, I think the stories and the pictures of what she had done, who she'd been with and all the different types of guys and whatever that I found, you know, very erotic, which I think led me up to thinking about it, which has led me up to, why don't I just ever do it, right? Because you would get horny by that thought is what you're saying, and you figure. Of course, yeah. Right. Would you do the things that she would describe with each other?
Starting point is 00:32:06 Like if she said, you know, this guy and I did this and this and this, would you reenact that in bed? Again, our sex life is great. I mean, sounds awesome. Great. It's not as active as it used to be, which is part of my problem. I mean, I'll do anything, and she'll say, she, I just, it just, it was kind of like, it's hard to explain. It's like, remember, a lot of her experiences were one-night stands, right? Mm-hmm. So it wasn't like, you know, love, connection, nice dinner, you know, go out on a yacht, moonlight, you know.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Right, so it's not something that you feel sort of intimidated by because you have that, you have her that way, these, right? Yeah. And like, and then she was, listen, I was always very, I mean, I was like awkward in a club, right? Mm-hmm. I'm like a business guy. I mean, if I can't, if you can't hear me talk, you know, then I, it doesn't, I'm not like the guy you're going to chase. I'm not, I mean, I'm decent looking, but I'm not like the, Adonis on the dance floor all the women want. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:33:12 You're not like you say, that guy in the bar that's taking, that the girl's going to take home. Yeah, and so she was in a club going, there's the hottest dancer, and then she would just go get up. Right. There's a few other things that kind of, say, bothered me. And she's still this way. She's very, she's very, she's very full of herself. I mean, she's a beautiful woman. She's a dancer, a cheerleader, a model.
Starting point is 00:33:39 And she knows it. And she knows it, and she kind of, she's a tease a little bit. You mean with other guys? Other guys. She's done in public, and she'll, like, you know, give him a look and, you know, oops, the dress one up kind of thing. Oh, interesting. Very interesting.
Starting point is 00:33:54 And she, like, she used to talk about, like, the losers and the clubs. And she wasn't nice to these people, you know?
Starting point is 00:34:02 Right. And, I mean, all these things added together, I'm like, and by the way, and she talked, and she also was very big.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Oh, I love it rough. You know, that kind of stuff, right? And you guys do it rough sometimes? Or you try to do it off for her? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:13 sure. Mm-hmm. Yeah, believe me, I love it rough, too. Right. But all those things kind of has me,
Starting point is 00:34:21 like, you know, well, a big black guy, one day and a Latin guy another day and a Jewish guy another day and what it's like okay well then let's just bring him out you know like that like that I could be rough with you for an hour now next weekend and another guy to be roughly and just you know I tell you I can't yeah but let me ask you this because I know that because like there's one thing about like having a fantasy about something
Starting point is 00:34:44 and sort of enacting out or just thinking about it in your head and getting really turned on but and then I think that there's another thing when you actually live it out the reality in reality sometimes like right after you come you might be like holy shit what the fuck did I do like you might not be like have you thought that far into it like like do you really think if you saw your wife because this is what I was talking about what Tommy before we called you what I mean I know some guys that double team girls or guys that were you know with a girl that they wanted to screw another guy and watch but these would never like girls they cared about so I was kind of like and now the talking to you I could tell like you really care about this woman and you guys have a real rel-
Starting point is 00:35:24 you know that you're not looking at, like, humiliator or anything you think it's going to be a turn-on. But, like, I don't know many guys that would want to see their wife with another man. Yeah, I've wrestled with this a lot. And, um, do you get nervous that maybe you might not be into it after? Like, or that it actually would really bother you?
Starting point is 00:35:48 Well, well, actually, we did it once. Oh. Oh, perfect. I should have probably said that. Not on purpose, though. Well, we're getting our answer. instant gratification. Well, what happened was we had a couple over, right?
Starting point is 00:36:00 Just friends of ours. We've known before watching. She was really good friends with the wife. I didn't know the husband very well. Right. And they had dinner at her house, whatever we were drinking, and they had no idea. Especially floored my wife because she's, you know, just other girls, fair flingers. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:22 So they started talking about it. They're saying, hey, you guys ever done it? It's great. You should do it. And we're like, no, no, no. And she and my wife just, oh, you'd love it. I go, what do you mean I'd watch? Oh, he's been asking me about my stories.
Starting point is 00:36:37 He's been wanting to see me with other guys. Right, because this is the time for it. She saw an opportunity. She's an opportunist. She saw an opportunity. It was like the window was slightly open. Jump back. And so, I am basically, for the next hour, they were like talking.
Starting point is 00:36:54 It's okay, but it's like, hey, it's like, hey, why don't you just give the guy a hand job, right? You said that to her? No, the wife said to her, why don't you just give this guy a hand job? Right. So your wife's going to give another guy, the other guy, a hand job. Yeah. So, like, we went to the other room, and, you know, it's like, you know, he just dropped his pants out on the bed. She started rubbing him, and then she just blowjob, and then she got on top of him.
Starting point is 00:37:32 And it just kind of all happened. And you were in the room? Yeah, I was in the room. Right. And the other wife was in the room. And so it happened. I didn't really do anything with the other. She ended up.
Starting point is 00:37:53 And you were totally fine after. That's always fine after, yeah. That's good. That's good. Yeah, you know. Well, the only thing that wasn't fine is, you know, you know, it was. I heard the dynamic, right? She introduced it.
Starting point is 00:38:05 And the whole thing. And afterwards, she was kind of like, well, I did that for you. Well, no, because she said, and I believe this, that you've been pushing her into this. You've been talking about it. So there she is. She kind of seems like she's the type, like, you know, she's not going to shy away from it.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Kind of like rebellion. Like if you're going to say, do it, then if that's opportunities there, she's kind of going to be like, this is what you want. I'm going to give it to you. And I get that mentality. Yeah, you're right. That's exactly what it is. Yeah, so she did do it for you.
Starting point is 00:38:38 That was the truth. She probably would have never done that if that situation came up. She probably, I would assume she'd be looking at you like, is this okay? Do you want me? You know, I think she already had your okay. Yeah, through. Because all this time you've been trying to talking about it and asking her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Or asking her to do it, right? So she knew she could do it and this is what you wanted. And I do believe she did it for you. But there's one of the thing, which is why I think it's not just, it isn't just me. Right. Listen, I travel, okay? Not a lot, but a couple days a week. And she is, I told you her personality, she's one of those, if I go away for a day and a half, she's like, I can't believe you left me.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Right. And so as I travel for business, she started saying, hey, you know, maybe while you're away, I can get like a young boyfriend. Let me ask you this. Are you faithful to her when you go away? Yeah, well, I go. Are you faithful to her when you go away? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:36 I've never, I've, I have never cheated on her. I think I'm sort of at that stage where I'm going to work it out with her. Right. So she knows for a fact that you're faithful, but she's asking you if maybe she could fool around. She was starting to ask you if she could fool around with guys when you're on vacation? Uh-huh. I mean, I'm going to say, yeah. But it was like, but she would say, okay, because I, you know, I'm, like, lonely when you're away and you tell you all about it.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Or maybe we'll call you up and you can listen to it. us why we're having sex. I mean, that kind of, it never happened. Right. But we were having that kind of conversation. The same thing was like, oh, she can have her cake in 82. She can have wild sex with a bunch of different guys, but stay married to me. Right, but you said in your email that she wasn't into it, but it sounds like she is into it.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Well, the more I think about it and when I'm talking about it, I was thinking about it out loud with you. Yeah, she's remembering. Put it this way. I got triggered by these stories and got into it, but it wasn't like, I wasn't doing this by myself. Right. Of course not. not at all. And you're, I mean, and you have somebody that's, it seems like she is into it. You know, she took that opportunity to fool around with that other guy right in front of you. So you're
Starting point is 00:40:55 ready, or that already happened. So I feel like once you cross that line, why wouldn't it be a big deal? It's kind of like you open that can of worms, right? And if she has this big sexual appetite and she wants to sleep around, she kind of has like what a lot of people would probably want in a marriage, like the best of both worlds, right? She has a real relationship. She has a real, like, open relationship. She has a real relationship with you, and, you know, she gets all of her emotional needs and all that stuff from you. But then if she just wants to have sex and it's meaningless and it doesn't mean anything. But that's both parties are into it.
Starting point is 00:41:26 But he's wrote in that he's into. No, but are you, I understand that. But are you into also you, like, are you into the part of you may be sleeping with other women? No, he seems like a faithful guy. Do you want to sleep around? Listen, if I'm going to sleep with somebody, I want to sleep with her. Yes. Okay. Okay. He's not into it. It's her.
Starting point is 00:41:45 All right. Frustrating thing now is, it's like we're all the way there. Like, yeah, I don't want to do it. What do you mean? When does she say I don't want to do it? Have you proposed something or tried to bring someone in? And she says no, I don't get, when does she say no? It's a good question, because it's not like we sit down and have a conversation about it. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:11 You know, it's like, you nails her earlier. She's into, whatever she's into, she's into. Yeah, totally. Yeah. And so she has had a lot of sex and she can do it again, but she's not really into it. Right. So it'll come up in passing and she'll go, oh, yeah, well, maybe we should, you know, think about getting me a guy. And it's like, okay, do you want to do it or not.
Starting point is 00:42:34 It seems like you have to set up the situation. And she reacts if the situation's in front of her. Just like when you had the couple over for dinner and it came out. Right, if that's what you really want. But do you really want, is that really what you want? I'm a little confused now talking to you because in your email, It seemed like, you know, she was a reluctant, you know, part of this sort of situation and you were really pushing it. And now when you talk, there's a part of me that thinks there's you maybe aren't into it.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I mean, you get turned on by actually watching it, but maybe you're not into the fact that it's coming now from her and she's pushing it. Do you know what I mean? Does that, is there a difference in that for you? Like it's one thing for you to bring it up and say, hey, babe, I want to see you with another guy. Now that she's talking about it, now she wants to do guys behind your back. Like, is that an issue for you? The weird thing for me is, it's like I do love her, but I don't feel that a long bond of, it's just she and me. It's more like we're really good friends.
Starting point is 00:43:51 We have a great time. We'd love each other. Like, we'd support each other, that kind of stuff. But, I mean, five years ago, 10 years ago, 20 years ago, I'd be like, you know, if a guy looks at my woman, I'd flip. out. Right. Oh, I see what you're saying. You're saying that the fact that you're okay with her with other guys makes you wonder whether you're really into her in the real way. Exactly. You know, and listen, there is an age difference. You know, we like different things. It's kind of like I'm with somebody who I love and we're compatible. Right. It doesn't feel like my soulmate.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Right. She doesn't feel like I'm with the person I'm meant to be with the next 50 years. No, that makes more sense because what I was most confused about was like what guy, a lot of guys would want to be into it. And like you say, you get turned on. And I think a lot of people would totally understand that scenario and would be turned on by it. But most guys wouldn't want to see their wife that they love. Screw another guy. Yeah, but I understand what he's saying, though. If that bond's not there.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Yeah, but now it makes sense. I'm saying before we were talking before we got on the call, like we were. didn't understand, you know, I've never heard of a guy that's married that's looking for his way. So now it makes sense that maybe there isn't that total connection as she's like your soulmate. But when you said before, you put out there before that you said either you're going to work it out with her, you're going to leave her. Are you guys having issues now that you feel like you might be on your second divorce? Yes. It's kind of like, listen, again, we've been the highest of highs and the lowest of levels.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Her personality is such that, you know, she, I mean, I lost a ton of money in the market. Mm-hmm. I made, like, when she was like, why did I marry an older guy? You have no money. What are you bringing to the table? Oh, God. Like, she's really mean. And when she says stuff like that, I go, can you repeat that?
Starting point is 00:45:54 You're telling me that if I don't have money that you wouldn't have married. Come on. I mean, even if you think that, don't tell me that. Listen, she's not really young. I mean, she's 39. Exactly. She's not a 22-year-old fucking hottie running around. She's 39.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Listen, I walk into the bedroom a night, and she's watching the Jersey Housewives. Yeah. That show makes my skin crawl. And, like, if I put a sports show on, if I put a sports show on, she's like, oh, it's so rude of you. I can't believe you're watching sports. You know, I don't like that. I'm like, you know, it's that kind of stuff, right? So I guess it's just, you know.
Starting point is 00:46:31 These things obviously have chipped, you, like, have chipped away at your feeling. thanks for her. Exactly. And, and. I mean, because you don't have big blown out fights over shit like that. I mean, like she says that it blows over, but maybe you hold on to it. And then these other things when she, you know, sort of flat out told you that other guys' dicks were bigger than yours and it was better. Like, I mean, it's like maybe you, instead of like really talking about those issues with her at the time and working it through and getting it out, you hold on to that stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:58 And so why wouldn't you be at a place where you feel very disconnected with her? It's like when she, when this all came out. My initial reaction was, like, oh, my God, and I didn't know this about you and I, what are you telling me about me? But I kind of sat with it and took it and ended up, like, absorbing it, like saying, okay, I'm going to use, okay, this will be great. Tell me this to start, okay, and I ended up accepting it and then using it. To get yourself off. Getting off by it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:32 And then all of a sudden she's like, okay, I'm not going to tell you anymore. You know, it's kind of like, wait a minute. It took me a long time to get here. Yeah, now she's basically telling me, I've been with a ton of guys, and you are fine with it, and we are kind of enjoying it, but I'm done. Yeah, now she wants to pick up her ball and go home. Yeah, she's kind of controlling that way. I mean, she obviously is just thinking about her own self.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Yeah. You know, it's not like she was doing that for you. She was doing it for her. Yeah, yeah, it's another good point because what I saw in this was, regardless of what she says, and she's totally, oh, that was in control. I'm proud of everything I ever does. I mean, I don't think all of her experiences were great. I think guys did use her.
Starting point is 00:48:09 I think she felt like maybe she shouldn't have gotten into it. She didn't really feel great about herself. And when it came out and I was like, huh, and the defensiveness was there. And I was like, well, tell me about it. And then I'm all into it. It was almost like therapy for her. She got it all out.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Right. And the fact that her man wasn't going, what a slut you are, I'm leaving you. It made her feel better. But as soon as she felt better, I didn't bat her anymore. Right. And the funny thing is, you finally got to the place where you're like this is like great and now you're learning like you said to accept it and actually get off by it and and she's you know all therapyed out change it yeah change it around exactly she said things to me like oh well now you're telling me when you were in dance clubs that you know that wasn't really you know you didn't that's not where you know it wouldn't meet women well you seem like you might have been one of those loser guys that i wouldn't have been with i'm like really yeah see these things are harsh to take it and it seems like you just take them in i could just tell by your voice you're
Starting point is 00:49:06 and how you talk like you're not a combative person you're not arguing with her all the time you know what I mean like some guys would flip out if their girl said shit like that to them yeah I mean she's just constantly throwing this stuff and that's probably why you guys get along because she probably needs a guy like you right I mean a lot of guys probably would not be able to handle her oh she told me and she's told me stories of her past boyfriend she's Italian she's an Italian guy for a couple of years and they ripped each other's shirts off when they were fighting he you know he kicked
Starting point is 00:49:31 her out of a car I mean it's like right you seem like very passive to her you know you're probably like a great match for her. And what she doesn't understand if she, if you did ever dump her, if you guys do get to her, she's going to find it hard to find a guy who's so tolerant of, accepting, yeah. Yeah, of the way that she treats you because she's kind of mean to you.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Um, you know, and if you don't work through that stuff, I think it builds up and, you know, you have this kind of disconnected part of yourself where you feel kind of cold to her. And if you don't work on that, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:02 you can't, you will be able to walk away and divorce her too. You're hitting the nail on the head because it's kind of like I can either work in it in the relationship or out of the relationship And I've been divorced before I don't condone divorce and I don't like the way I think you should work on your relationships
Starting point is 00:50:19 But it's kind of like If I'm not feeling You know like we're Whatever that terms are meant to be together And why am I going to kill myself You know to try to make it work when again You heard the thing she says to me I think you know I think the sad thing is
Starting point is 00:50:34 She's probably not really that authentic with you and you probably don't really, on some level, no, the real her. Like you get all this, like, you know, sex stuff and all this service stuff. But, like, maybe she is, you know, has a big wall up still. And probably, I believe, if you guys could probably work through that and she could be, like, more vulnerable and maybe you could let your anger come out more, you know, because you're probably too passive and you hold stuff in. If you guys were probably more honest with each other about your feelings and your emotions
Starting point is 00:51:03 and stuff that you probably would feel something. thing together because you guys have everything else. You know, I think it's hard to find someone that you have a good time with, that you love sex and that, you know, that you really get along with. I think you're just missing like an authentic sort of emotional connection. And maybe it's because she's a little closed off and, you know, you allow for that. I think that sounds about right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Yeah. So I think, I mean, I don't know. I can't, I think marriage is so weird and Tommy's married. I'm not. I'm a little bit more like your girl. And I, I have like commitment phobic. So I have issues with the relationship. So, you know, I don't, I'm not sitting here saying like you should never leave your girl.
Starting point is 00:51:45 You know, I believe in divorce and sometimes you just like relationships go. And if you're being with them 10 years, I don't think that that's a failure. I really don't. I think, you know, to have to spend the rest of your life with somebody is most likely not going to happen. But, you know, if you're been with someone 10 years and it's time to go, it's time to go. But I don't know. I think you should try maybe give therapy. Like do something to maybe make this.
Starting point is 00:52:09 work. I don't think sleeping, having her fuck other guys is going to help the situation. I think that that's just maybe your weird way of getting sabotage and you're just putting more stuff between you guys and it's more bullshit. It's like from her past. It's not really who she is. I was a very promiscuous when I was younger and I'm not anymore and I know those kind of women and I know that it's not gratifying. Women are very different than men. So I, you know, I know what's behind all that And it's a lot of defense, you know, and if you take that down, you'd probably see a whole other side to her. And like I said, I don't think fucking other guys or having those stories, more of that stuff is going to help anything. That's just pushing you farther apart.
Starting point is 00:52:49 So I think you should maybe try to have like real stories about like other things or maybe try therapy. I think that's great advice. We have tried therapy. We've learned a lot in therapy and we're actually, we've got a whole lot of, And she's a Dharma coach. She's very spiritual and she's actually helped me sort of get in tune with a lot of things deep to me. We're spending as much time or more time on sort of that kind of stuff, not trying to figure out who each of us really are. That's great.
Starting point is 00:53:23 See, that's the way you should. I think you should have more conversations about that. I mean, your sex is really great anyway, right, without those stories. Like maybe you could try and figure out something, you know. And I suggest not going any further down that path. I wouldn't allow for the whole her having sex with other guys while you're on business trips. I mean, I think once you cross that line, like, you know, it's the beginning of the end. Yeah, what's next after that?
Starting point is 00:53:49 I mean, that's the beginning of the end a lot of times, unfortunately. Unfortunately, unless you guys, like, you could make it through if you connect on another level. But, you know, I don't know. I don't think it will be. Yeah, I think you're right. I think if I was going to, now that you're saying this, as I think about it, really, I can talk to somebody about it. I think to go down that road Totally
Starting point is 00:54:14 Absolutely Yeah and I think deep down inside It's not really what she wants to do It's just the bullshit her You know what I mean She's got this bullshit side That she puts out there Whenever she wants
Starting point is 00:54:26 You know And I think that She probably doesn't even want to So I think you should You know Stop talking about the other guy thing And if she mentioned something That pisses you off
Starting point is 00:54:37 Instead of trying to turn it Into something that you'd be into Tell her to go fuck herself like be real you know what I mean be authentic with her too like you should have got really mad at her when she told you that other guys' dicks were bigger than yours you know instead of turning that into something that would turn you on
Starting point is 00:54:51 you know you should have been like fuck you and she probably would respect that and you guys would probably have really great sex after by the way just so you know I did start there oh okay fuck you and then the fight turned into good sex well yeah that's not bad but the fights turned into her kind of
Starting point is 00:55:08 bearing her soul a little bit and then they turned into dialogue would turn into questions, which just kind of revolved. Right, right, right. I get it. She ended up using it for therapy, so I think ultimately it was good. Yes, totally, totally.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Yeah, have more fights with her, less her banging other people. That would be my advice to you because that's when she opens up to you. That's better instead of having her open up to other guys. Because, you know, what happens with sex, you don't know that she has these guys on the side and then she can connect emotionally. You never know.
Starting point is 00:55:36 You don't want that to happen until you're really ready. So, if I were you, I'd give your relationship. a little bit more time. Okay. Less sexual. My advice to heart. I really do appreciate that. All right.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Cool. I'm glad you called in. We just started doing this podcast, but we're going to be doing every couple of months or like weeks. What do they call it? Where are they now? Call back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:57 So we'll be emailing you. I'll let you know when this goes up and you can listen to it. And then we will be, I'll email you to check in in a couple months and see where you guys are at. Sounds great. All right. I appreciate your guys time. Good luck with everything.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Bye. All right. Thank you. Bye. I liked him. I really liked him. You know, that's what's so interesting, oops, that's what's so interesting about, like, surface stuff and why people are so judgmental. Because, you know, you'd read that guy's email and think he's just a pig.
Starting point is 00:56:27 I told two girlfriends, like, oh, I'm talking to a guy that wants to see his wife fuck another guy. And they're like, oh, like, you know. Yeah, but after talking to him, the wife is the pig. Well, she's not even a pig. She's a damaged girl. No one's, you're right. You're right. I take that back.
Starting point is 00:56:40 She's a damaged girl. That's it. It was that the biggest onion layer peel by peel story? But that's what everyone was awesome. No, but that's why I like doing this. And this is why I like real regular people. No, I think you helped them out.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Everything isn't as a peel back. It's rarely like what it is on the surface. It really is, you know? I think that that guy wasn't even into it. Like, you know, it was about so many other things. And that's what I find interesting. I still think he should have banged the neighbor's wife. He's not into it.
Starting point is 00:57:10 You know, some guy, you know, it's a rare breed. Yeah. But guys like that exist. It's good to know for girls because there are some guys out there that are faithful. It's like a 10% but he's a real faithful. I think he's just a real faithful guy. He's not into it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:22 And I love how she keeps calling him at 55 the old man. I thought that was hilarious. And she's 39. It's like, listen. That was hilarious. You're fucking. We threw that out there. Give me a break.
Starting point is 00:57:33 You're going to have any 40 year old girl who really hate mail. Yeah, yeah. At least you'll get some. I feel like I'm going to get all the hate mail and you won't. But that was very controversial. It was hilarious, though, considering I'm in my 40s, I don't take offense to it because whatever. But yeah, you're right. But she is way older, younger than him, 15 years.
Starting point is 00:57:53 60 years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 15. Yeah, I thought it was interesting. That's what I love about these calls, because you just never know where they're going to go. And these guys on Craigslist, it's like you think it's just like freaks or weirders, but they're not the regular real people with real stuff. And, you know, sex is always like about sex, but there's always underneath. stuff to figure out and that's the stuff that I like to dig into interesting do what I mean I know what
Starting point is 00:58:18 you mean so that's it um I don't know I've been I don't know who we have for our uh next call I think I do oh I'm not talking into the mic yeah I have somebody um that's calling in next week let me find his email okay so here's his email his name is Jimmy he's 28 he's single he's looking for love advice. People say I'm stuck up and that's why I'm single. However, I don't see myself acting stuck up. What am I doing wrong? Wait, I thought his name was going to be. 007. No, it is. His email is 007, but he says his name is Jimmy. I prefer 007. I'll see, I'll see what he wants to be called. Absolutely. But he's just some stuck up dude. What makes him, well, we got to ask him that. What makes him stuck up? Who's telling him this?
Starting point is 00:59:05 And what stuck up person thinks that they're stuck up? I think like being stuck up means you don't even know it like I don't know like I find it I don't know what he means or girl stuck up no people say I'm stuck up and that's why I'm still single no no no but can I've never heard someone refer to a guy as stuck up no a guy can be stuck up absolutely anyone that's really into themselves stuck up I think it's like an 80s word but me apparently they're using again he's only he's only 28 so he was even he was like born in the 80s so obviously that word is back around it's stuck up and he's supposedly stuck up. And he's not copacetic with it? No, I don't know. We'll talk to him next week. You said tune in. We'll talk to him in a little bit next week. Awesome. Tune in. Bye.
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