Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 010 - Ex Dominatrix Mary is Having Trouble Dating Guys
Episode Date: February 16, 2014Mary used to be a Dominatrix and mostly dated male submissoves. Now that she's out of the fetish world, she is having trouble in the vanilla dating world. She can't relate to "normal" guys but is tha...t really her only problem? Is Mary even ready to date? Tune in to find out. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Okay, so I have a girl named Mary.
She's out on ex-dominatrix.
Basically, this is her problem.
She said basically.
Basically, I used to be really involved in the fetish scene and mostly have dated
male submissives.
She was a dominatrix.
Now, as I'm getting older and trying to be in the vanilla
dating world, it's hard for me to relate to normal men and I usually
hurt their feelings.
I guess she's used to hurting other things.
Yeah, and getting paid for it.
Yeah.
I have a hard time understanding that men,
are sensitive. Every guy I date initially thinks I'm amazing. Then weeks later, thinks I'm a
cunt on wheels. How can I stop scaring them away without being phony? She had another question
and she didn't know which one she should ask. I'm going to out her second question because I believe
that they're both connected. Her other problem is after a long-term relationship that seemed perfect,
there was a fidelity issue that she found out about. I guess she caught her guy cheating. And it's
been three years and I can't bring myself to look at anyone as a potential mate. I have a hard time
believing that any man can be faithful so it's completely stopped me from being close to anyone.
How does one come back from being cheated on without blindly just getting cheated on again?
So like, you know, like, duh, like she's sitting here wondering what guys think she's a cunt and then
she's saying she can't ever see anyone as a mate.
So I feel like we've solved this whole problem.
We don't even need to talk to her.
Okay.
Solve it.
She's a manator?
Yeah, because the one cheated on her.
But the dominatrix thing.
So we have a lot to discuss with her.
Okay.
I have more questions about like the guys and what she would do to.
them and what they were like you know i always wonder what type of guy sort of because they say like it's
always like the really successful ones that are very domineering in their regular life and then they want to go
and get you know i don't know stabbed in the nipples by a girl like yeah like me i want to go to place
where i can just absolutely beat that not beat but dominate a woman right now that's how i feel why do you
having a fight with your wife oh you hate your wife i love my wife no tell the truth she's not
no no no no no i love my wife so why do you hate women i don't hate women so why do you want to beat up a
Just to get it out.
Just to get it out.
No, it's...
Tell the truth.
Communication.
Right, and you guys are having communication problems at home?
Be honest.
This is what we're here for.
Well, if you let me fucking answer, I will be honest.
Okay.
Instead of interrupting me.
Okay, you're right.
It is a big flaw of mine.
It is a huge flaw you.
Maybe this dominatrix can lend us a ball gag.
Or maybe I should be a dominat.
Shove something in your mouth.
So anyway, no, it's all...
It's communication, you know?
And it's not a man and a woman, woman.
It's the fact when you live with somebody.
It's human beings.
And when you're with them 24-7.
Oh, torture.
It's torture.
It's so hard.
I know.
I believe and remember the Lat relationships living apart together.
I want a house right next door to someone or an apartment next door.
Not that.
With a door that opens and closes.
I think there should be some universally accepted like separate vacations.
Totally.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I really think I think we have it all.
I think that marriage the way they have it is so wrong and retarded.
I really do.
Living together in one place.
your whole life
That's fine as long as I'm not living together
In an apartment
Right if you have a house
That intensifies it
Even if you have a house
Don't you need like like
You know you need wings of the house
Like you need your bathroom over there
Her bathroom over there
You need like places where you're
Right that's what I mean
Yeah
You're in an apartment
I don't know
I feel for you
Yeah
I mean when I was single
I think it's a complication problem
I think it's a situation
When I was single
I used to get mad at my dog
Because I was living with him so much
I know with my cat, if she meows, I want to fucking throw her out the window.
Don't say that.
No, she doesn't mean that, everybody.
No, I really do.
I've said this before.
I'm like, my cat would be, like, I've always wondered if I could get her vocal cords removed.
Because then she would be, like, so perfect.
The only annoying thing she does is meows sometimes that really inappropriate times.
I know how you.
Not cute meows, like irritating meows.
Okay.
There's a different.
I know how you're a big fan of my stories.
Oh, no.
But I got a really good one.
They're boring.
No, this is funny.
All right, but don't make it interesting.
It's very interesting.
It goes on your vocal cord thing.
Okay.
There was a neighbor that lived down the street from us.
She had two border collies.
And all day long, they just kept barking and barking and barking and barking.
And they had so many problems.
She surgically had their vocal cords removed.
It works?
It happened.
And it sounded like two old men dying in the backyard.
No, like they had lung cancer.
It was horrible.
So, of course, as kids, we used to go and, like, fuck with the dogs to make them go.
So that's my story.
I know you love it.
No, that is a good story because I've always wondered, like, Ken, because sometimes I once tweeted, like, when my cat meowses, she's telling me she wants me to remove her vocal cords.
Like, how do I know that's not what she's saying?
How do I know that she, when she's chasing me?
And it only happens on the days that I'm stressed out.
She just chases me around the house and meows for no reason.
And I really feel like she's saying, please, mommy.
Take my vocal cords out.
I hate meowing.
And if anybody from PETA is listening to this, this is a comedy routine.
No, I mean, I really, I can't.
But I really believe that she picks up, I think that the animal picks up on your strass.
Like the animals are most annoying when you're most stressed out.
And I think that what comes first, the chicken, like, what comes first, her irritating behavior or my irritating energy?
I think my irritating stressful energy irritates her.
And then she meows like a fucking asshole.
And then I want to throw her out the window.
Oh, my God.
Oh, not to talk about current offense, but this has to do with our show.
No, this is going to air eight months in advance.
This has to do with our show.
Polygamy is now legal in Utah.
Oh, my God.
I love this.
That's awesome.
I still not born in the right time period because I was born when it wasn't like a thing.
I need to be born 100 years from now.
I mean, I'm going to die soon eventually, right?
You would be a sister wife?
I don't think that would happen.
Yes, 100%.
Maybe not in this, not in this persona.
Like not with, I have to be born again as somebody else.
I think so.
Yeah.
Somebody completely different.
Complete.
Yeah, 100%.
Totally.
I agree.
I mean, that's no joke.
You're completely right.
Yeah.
But I would be, I would even, I was talking to friend last night, I would even probably with, I've
had open relationships.
I've had open, I've had relationships with guys where they sleep with other people.
I've had every kind of relationship, like we said, except a normal one.
So, and I'm very open.
And I believe that guys, fuck other people when they're with someone.
that they love and has nothing to do with anything.
And I really believe that if I found a guy that I really trusted and really loved,
and that guy over time gave me the security, emotional security that I needed and I believed
that he was there with me and he really loved me.
I believe that I would be able to be okay with him having sex if he wanted to.
Do you understand?
I really do believe that.
But I think it's the lack of having that security.
I've never had that from a guy because something's wrong with me.
And I just attract.
No.
Well,
I don't have issues when it comes to relationships.
I don't,
I mean,
and it's funny that I have this show
because I'm talking to people
about their relationships.
That's like really bad.
Only a fuck that person can solve your problems.
Yeah,
exactly.
But I'm not even solving people's problems.
I'm just listening to them
because they're fascinating.
But, um,
uh,
I think that it's,
uh,
so I think,
I mean,
I get that.
I believe in that,
you know?
I just haven't gotten to that place yet.
Okay.
I only like unavailable guys.
All right.
So, but I would, I believe in, I believe in polygamy or whatever it takes to make women happier.
This isn't about men happier because men are polygamous now.
There's tons of guys that have a thousand women and all this stuff.
It's for women.
I want polygamy around for women.
The only problem is the whole religious thing that probably goes with it.
Who cares about religion?
What does that have to do with anything?
There shouldn't be anything connected.
That's so stupid.
That's why it's legal.
It's because of these Mormons.
Because what?
It's a Mormon practice.
What's a Mormon practice?
Polygamy.
Who cares?
By the time it comes back and it will be, it'll be,
so gay people weren't supposed to be married
and now they're all getting married.
So fuck religion and what it says about that.
I feel like I'm sure there's places in the Bible
where people, I'm not listening to you because I'm reading text.
I know.
Did I miss something?
You missed a whole lot and I'm going to stop you before you say something wrong.
Yeah.
All right. So anyway, what are you reading?
No, what did you just say?
Polygamy exists because of...
Exists or is illegal?
No, is legal because of the religion.
The religion's not against it.
Right.
Yeah.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Mormonism is why they believe in polygamy.
Right.
Well, I think more people should be like the Mormons.
I don't like
Like religion interfering
No absolutely not
It's like I can't even go there
Remember my father was a priest
You know one day we'll get into my
One day we should have like someone call in that we think is smart
And then they should give me advice
That'd be fun
Yeah
I just don't know who that person is
But we'll have somebody
When I have my wife call in
Oh God
Her problem
We have her issues we could deal with
I would love to have her on the show
That's not gonna happen
And talk about why she's so nervous about you being at my apartment.
Aw.
She's not, don't worry, she's not listening.
This is like 10 episodes in.
She's feeding the baby, Tommy.
Because you're here.
You're here.
She has no time.
Along with Kathy's cat.
Kathy's going to go out the window.
No, she's having a good meow.
You know, sometimes she meows.
Like, there's different meows that mean different things.
A lot of her meows are delicious and yummy and so cute.
I love it.
I'm not a cat person.
But it's okay.
that's okay but when she meows with her annoying meo it's so ugly sounding i can't take it it's like
girls with annoying voices like that's why i never wanted a baby girl because i don't like girl voices
an irritating girl voices like some people will probably write in and say my voice is irritating
but i mean like high-pitch rare rare rare cartoon character voices that you hear in murray hill you ever there's
certain neighborhoods in new york city where if you go eat at a restaurant you feel like you're on
the cartoon network it's just cartoon
voices all around. It's always packs of girls sitting and for some reason, always the
irritating girl with the irritating voice is the only one that talks and then the nice friend
with the nice voice just listens and the irritating girl talks, talks, talks, and she never has
anything interesting to say. So I just, I wonder what the psychology is behind that. Did you drink
coffee today? No, I have PMS actually. That would explain your charming attitude. Why? Is that being
mean? I don't like bad voices. That's okay. I would say that on any day, any day, even when I'm not
P-M-Sing.
Okay.
Okay.
So I can't wait to talk to this dominatrix girl.
I feel like that should have been my calling.
No, I don't like to humiliate it.
I actually like to be more taken advantage of by the guy.
Like, you know what I mean?
I'm more of a submissive than I am like a dom.
Okay, that's good.
Yeah, I don't think I could do that.
You don't care.
So we'll be right back with Mary the Dom.
That's her name, by the way.
Mary?
Yeah, that's what she chose.
I mean, I know her real name.
And I know, she came.
to us through a mutual friend or like someone
that knows the show and he sent her over.
So I know for a fact that she's hot.
He said she's really hot.
And she chose, and I know her real name, but she
I said make up a name and she made up Mary.
Like we'll talk about that too because it's like so
vanilla. Talk about vanilla. She's having vanilla
sex. She's dating vanilla guys
and now she has a fake vanilla name.
I think she was probably way cooler when she was a
dominatrix. We'll ask her that.
Okay. We'll be right back with Mary
the Vanilla X.
Dominatrix.
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Hello, Oz is Mary.
Yes, it is. How are you?
Good. How are you doing, Mary?
We were just discussing your name.
Why would you choose Mary? We thought that was such a lame name.
Yeah, that's very vanilla.
Vanilla, yeah. We're like, oh, she's having vanilla sex now, so she's picked a vanilla name.
A vanilla name.
Oh, actually, I've always used that. As dirty as things I've gotten, I always use Mary.
I don't know why. I just, like, I'm really bad at, like, being put on the spot for, like, a name.
and that's only one that ever comes out.
I should pick something way cooler.
But so when you go to Starbucks and like, what's your name?
You're like Mary?
Yes, anywhere.
Anytime someone asks my name, it just blurks out of my mouth.
But what about when you were a dominatrix?
Did you have a name there that you could tell us?
Did you use Mary?
No, well, I actually, I wasn't necessarily a dominatrix.
I was more like just, it was more personal, so I used my real name.
Oh, so what was that all about?
That's actually how psychotic I am
That I would
You know
Lie to the person at Starbucks
But then the person that
You know
I have a fetish relationship with
I'm telling them my real name
Right
Pretty crazy
Right right
No I always lie to Starbucks people
For some reason
Because it's like why not
It's like you know I don't know why
I'm so bored
I'm sitting there waiting in line
I just figure if I give him a fake name
It's for some reason
You feel like you're getting away with something
I don't know why
What's wrong Tommy
Why are you fucking like
No then I just
I just hear a little bleep on it
Oh feedback
right?
Yeah.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Mary.
I can't say that.
Name Series is so dull.
Hold on.
My backup would be like Joan.
Joan is just as bad.
So you weren't really a dominator,
but you just used to like beat the shit out of the guys that you dated?
Yeah.
I mean, I typically, I don't know.
I'm not sure it's just my personality,
but like I tend to attract a lot of submissive guys
and guys who have, you know,
I guess problem.
sexually and sexual deviance and stuff.
But do you think that you attract them or that you're attracted to that type?
You must be attracted to that type.
I'm definitely not attracted to that type anymore.
It's been a long time since I found that attractive, but it's still like my personality.
So it's pretty hard to like, you know, I mean.
Are you like dominant all the time?
Are you like the aggressor?
I know well you know what I personally I don't really I mean obviously to the point that I was attracted to guys who thought that guys were low probably you know I don't have such a great view of guys to begin with so I don't find myself attracted to that many people okay so wait let's rewrecked to the situation right so you wrote in your initial problem that you wanted to discuss is you used to sort of be in the fetish world and you had you would be with guys that were submissive and now you're you're you're you're you're you would be with guys that were submissive and now you're you're you're you you're you're you're you're you're you're you're
you're doing more of the vanilla scene and I guess you're not dating those kind of guys anymore,
but guys still think you're a cunt.
And I'm assuming you were a cunt to the submissives and now you're like,
cuntie to other people too, right?
And you can't like.
Yeah.
Right.
And you know, I just like, I guess like a lot of like regular vanilla guys that don't like
these type of, that don't specifically go for a type of dominant woman.
They want you to fucking lie to them.
They want you to pretend to be weak and pretend to be like a certain way.
very true. So it's like, I know
a lot of girls who they're really nice to their
boyfriends, but they're actually cunts because they're cheating
bitches. Yeah, no, exactly. I'm at least up front,
I'm at least up front, but guys don't see, you know.
No, it's true. I have a friend
who's like, was every guy's dream girl. She's like gorgeous,
she's quiet. She doesn't really do much, but
she's like the, she's a compulsive liar. Like the shit,
she, her husband doesn't know about her. The,
She's done in her life, you know?
And it's that's the way.
But that's like, that's every guy's sort of thing.
And that's what guys get when they want that.
They get women that lie.
Because most women are assertive.
And I think every woman has that part of themselves.
But most people keep it under wraps because guys don't like it.
Society doesn't like it.
It's really shunned upon.
And when you're like a woman that's not like that, like it's just, it's not a good scene.
And you're fishing in a much smaller pond.
Wait a minute.
We've been lied to.
We're me and you are fishing in the same pond.
We're being lied to?
What I mean you're being?
Yeah, you're totally being lied to.
Those guys are being lied to?
Yeah, I don't know about your wife.
What is she, Tommy?
Tommy's married.
But Tommy, what, before he was married, was a total player.
My wife is Latin.
So she's not submissive.
No.
Right.
I remember you guys used a raging fights before you.
Yeah, she's got a lot of fire.
Yeah, she puts, so she's very feisty bitch.
And you always liked aggressive girls.
I know you always liked older women.
So you're not that guy.
You would have liked Mary, quote unquote.
Absolutely, Mary.
I'm going to come up with.
the new name for you by the day. I'm going to call you dumb Mary. I just want to tell you a text
message exchange that me and Mary had before you got here that just shows how stupid we both
are. I had emailed her, I think the number of the show. I thought I did. And then so she gave
me her number and said, text me the day of, and I said, I'll text you the day of to confirm.
So we're texting today this morning. I'm like, text or are you confirmed? She said yes.
And then she texted me back. Like a bunch of things we texted, right? Back and forth.
Yeah. And then she texted me last minute. What's the number that I call in?
Shush! Tommy, don't kick my thing.
So I said, oh, shit, I'm so sorry.
Like, here's the number.
I can't believe I forgot to give it to you.
And then she writes back.
She's actually, and now she becomes smarter than me because she's like, oh, duh,
we're emailing on the number.
You obviously gave it.
We're tax mess.
I'm like, oh, my God, we're so stupid.
And then she's like, no, I'm really stupid.
I went to the wrong airport yesterday and had to buy another ticket to fly out.
So could you just please tell me that story very quickly?
You went to the wrong airport.
Like where, you live in L.A.?
Yeah, I live in L.A.
And I was coming back from New York.
And it was, it was so retarded.
Like, first of all, I have no idea.
I would never fly out of JFK.
I don't understand how the ticket got booked from JFK.
I would.
But who booked your ticket?
I booked the ticket.
This is the problem.
Right.
But, you know, I, you know what?
There is an option, though, that when you're booking,
where it just says all New York airports.
And I feel like I must have had to quit that.
Yeah, surrounding airports, it says, yeah.
Oh, so I'm, like, checking in at Newark and literally, like, hitting a kiosk.
I'm abusing the kiosk, and the guy comes over to me.
And I'm like, this thing is fucking broken.
And he's, like, looked at my, you know, itinerary.
And he's like, yeah, well, you're not flying out of this airport.
You weren't even in the same.
It wasn't even, like, JFK to L.
LaGuardia.
It was like Newark,
you were in New Jersey.
That's really bad.
First of all,
I'm so neurotic.
Before I purchase any tickets,
I always look because I'm like,
what if I put the wrong date?
I look through everything.
You have to focus more,
Mary.
Let's focus back on your guy problems.
I'm so, like,
nonchalant with stupid shit like that.
I like fucking learned my lesson because it cost me
$500 extra dollars.
Oh,
it's so painful.
Yeah,
that is really bad.
Okay,
let's go back to your guy issue,
though.
But first of all,
let me just go back a little bit.
Like you said at some point,
early on that you had you don't think highly of men to begin with so where does that
come from did that is that why you got into sort of you know dating submissive guys and
treating them like shit or was it only like the submissive thing and you being more of a
dominant person was that only like sexually or was it in the whole relationship or these were
long were these long relationships or just sexual relationships well um when I was younger
I mean you know I got really interested in this stuff when I was like really young like
15. So I had like
and you know at that
point obviously there's a bunch of older
guys who would love
a 15, 16 year old girl
to beat shit out of them. Right, what was
the oldest guy? Wait, what was the oldest guy
when you were 15, 16 that was like
that you were getting it on with? Oh,
not, no, I actually, I didn't have sex
or anything with any of them, but they were just like, you know,
kind of like, they were more
like when I was younger, more like
verbal relationships
and then as I got older.
Oh, okay.
By the time I was like 18, I mean, I can't even, I didn't even know, but they're fucking old, some of them.
Right.
But when did, when you say you were involved in the fetish scene, like, what were the fetishes that you were into and that you were engaging in?
Well, I mean, I'm really into, like, humiliation and degradation, a lot more psychological stuff.
But is that when they're naked?
Like, or when they're just like when you're watching a movie together or when you're out to dinner?
Like when you.
Oh, no.
Well, yeah, they would probably be naked because that was like, you know.
But what does that even mean?
Because I'm not into that world and I've never been into it.
So like, so you get like, what do you, what would you be into?
You would want to, like, what was your deal?
Like, what would get you turned on?
You would get turned on by like taking a guy's clothes off and then like, like, she.
Well, no, definitely not, not me taking his clothes off.
He should just be fucking naked by the time I enter.
Oh.
You should just be fucking naked on the floor.
Like, it's mostly just like, I.
I was more into psychological stuff.
And also, I'm like the type, I don't want to get my hands dirty.
I don't want to break a sweat.
Right.
No, we've had a guy call in that was a dominatrix guy.
And he told us that, yeah, it's more about all this other stuff, less about sex, right?
Yeah, there's never really sex.
I mean, I had eventually dated some people that were,
the people that I was actually in real relationships with were more, like,
we're not, like, actually submissive and just, like, to play submissive sexually.
but basically you know you would have them so they would be naked so these guys eventually you'd get to a place with these guys where they knew exactly what the deal was and you know if you were like with them or hanging out with them you at some point would come home or they would be there when you were going to engage with them and they'd be already naked and you walk in the room and what do you do have them like greet me I like crawling on the floor and kissing my shoe you know like basically
It's mostly to completely lower and degrade them.
And that's like when I was younger, I mean, I was very fixated with it,
and I did it a lot with a lot of people.
And it was like my relationship with most guys that I had interacted with.
Right.
And you.
But you weren't having sex with these guys, too.
No, because they're like, they're fucking disgusting.
I'm not going to have sex with them.
But you were having relationships with them.
But they were only,
me in the context of like
the role play right
yeah that it would never be a relationship because they were
so low it could never be more
right but were you engaging in real relationships on the side
or was this like your your form
of like the
fulfillment at that place in you know what I mean
like yeah it was for a time and then
I did have a couple
times where I was in serious
relationships and I did it on the
side and the guys that I was dating were cool with it.
They knew.
Would you take payment?
When I was much younger, but I learned pretty early on that then the, you know, the table's turn.
If someone's getting money out of it, then basically I'm not that in charge, am I?
No, that's paying you.
No, exactly.
But exactly.
If he's the one with the money in his hands, then gangling it in my face, then I don't have the power anymore.
So, you know, I feel like, you know, that's...
Where the hell was your father when you were growing up?
What did he do to you, Mary?
Me and my father have talked in a very long time.
You what?
Me and my father haven't talked in a very long time.
Right.
So it started there.
You didn't have a good relationship with your dad.
And do you feel like you hated men or you used to?
Because I know that eventually, I talked about this with time before I read him your whole email
because we're going to discuss both things.
You had a relate.
That relationship.
where the guy cheated on you?
Was that like...
Yeah.
That was after, actually.
This is after I started to be like,
these fucking slaves are draining.
It's more work to have a slave.
Totally than a regular relationship.
Right.
You're not even getting laid.
Well, the thing is that they want to do stuff for you.
They want to clean your house.
They want to go do stuff for you.
That's what they like to do.
I have guy friends that do that for me,
and I don't even have to humiliate them.
I just got to talk to them on the phone sometimes
and then they come over and do whatever I want
But you
You know, that's just called guy friends
See, no, I don't have guy friends
Because I feel all guy friends
Either eventually want to be your bitch or be your man
I feel like I can't find a balance to just be friends
Right, right
I've always had a lot of guy friends
When I was drinking I'd wind up sleeping with them
And now that I don't drink I don't sleep
When's the last time you actually got laid
Right. You're sensing that there's no sex going on.
Yeah, when's the last time you really, you know, you had some good, old-fashioned, just hard sex.
Regular sex.
See?
Yeah.
Regular sex?
Yeah.
Like bent over and just pounded.
It was about a year ago, and it was like two years before that.
Oh, my God.
Mary.
Mary has, Mary, you have another issue that you don't know about.
You need to get pounded.
Your issue should be
I don't have a desire for sex
and I'm a young girl
and I don't know what's wrong with me
Why are you not getting laid?
I sucked enough when I was younger.
How old are you?
I'm 25.
Okay, you're still very young.
Okay, how old were you when you lost your virginity?
I was 16.
Okay, so you're a year off of sex now
before that it was two years?
Yeah.
And when you say no sex, like is that, are we talking no anything?
Or like, did you have orgasms with guys?
Like maybe they go down on you or you blow them or like no or just no penetration or nothing?
Really just in like these like past like three years, it's been pretty much nothing.
Like I mean usually when I was younger, I mean I'm the type of person that, you know, I usually do receive oral.
However, it hasn't.
The past like three years, I haven't really.
And this goes to my second question that I was talking to you about, which is then ending a serious relationship.
And then from there, feeling like, you know, not really.
When did you meet your guy?
How old were you when you met your guy that cheated on you?
I was 19.
And you dated him for three years.
And you thought everything was great.
How long was everything great for?
You know, the things were all great.
But that you thought he was faithful before you found out that he was cheating on you.
Well, the thing is that I don't think I ever think I don't think any guy's faithful.
So I was always just like, obviously I'm just waiting for it, you know?
Right.
Like, I don't feel like I've ever really met a guy that was faithful.
So I don't think there was any point in the relationship that I felt secure that he wasn't cheating.
Uh-huh.
And then when did you eventually find out that for sure that he was?
Well, it was a lot of like, you know, bullshit, actually.
There's like a lot of things that I never thought.
Tommy's saying right now he's whispering to me that she needs to get fucked.
I'm sorry, Mary, you need to get fucked hard.
I'm listening to you and I get it and I know I used to date a lot of exotic dancers, strippers, who were all men haters at the end.
And they have bad father-relations to-
They had everything.
I'm like you, Mary.
I totally get all of the shit.
And at the end of the day, and I'm a really, really, really nice guy.
I'm like a-
No, you were a scumbag player and you were a cheater.
So she, you, Mary, you would have dated Tommy and you wouldn't have trusted him, but you would have had good sex.
And you would have been like, you know what?
And you would have suspected that he was cheating and you would have been right and he would have, you would have broken up with him.
And then you would have came over and said, you know what, I know we're broken up, but let's have sex one more time.
Yeah, maybe.
But whatever.
That's not helping her problem.
No, see, I'm totally not that person too.
Like, I'm completely fine being alone and not.
No.
You're not.
Why do you say she's done?
Tommy
Tommy thinks that you're not completely fine alone.
You're not fine alone.
You never get laid.
You hate men.
You have trust issues.
You're 25.
And you're only 25.
You should be out there.
You should be out there.
And listen, no one's saying that you have to be.
Yeah.
No one's saying you have to go out and be like, you know, the little, you know, bouncy
girl who bows down to every guy because she wants to go out to dinner and whatever.
I mean, but you're 25 years old.
Go out.
Have fucking fun.
Right, but there's a difference between being aggressive.
I do have fun, however, that I have fun.
I have a lot of girlfriends that I enjoy hanging out with.
And, you know, I work.
I do different things that I enjoy.
I just don't feel that relationships and dealing with that bullshit is enjoyable.
It's not.
Like, I don't find relationships to be, like, obviously they're enjoyable in the moment.
Don't get me wrong.
I am not telling you to go out and get a relationship.
I'm telling you to go out and get laid.
So what's the point of having some mediocre fuck either?
Like, if I'm going to fuck someone, then I want to enjoy it as opposed to like some drunk lay or something, you know?
Tommy, you really think she just needs to get laid and that solves her problems.
My opinion.
And I'm entitled to it.
Yeah, you're totally.
That's why you're my co-host.
You're like.
She doesn't have to agree with it.
Mary, you do not have to agree with it.
No, but we were getting.
I just want to know how you found out your boyfriend was cheating on you.
Oh, because he's an idiot
And he printed out the conversation
To jerk off to later
And then I had printed out some stuff for work
And it was in all of my stuff for work
Put something in your papers and you saw it on work
And then did you guys break up
Or did you stay with him for a while and turn into a nut job
Because I've had guys cheat on me
And then I stay with them and then I turn into like a psychopath
Like did you break up immediately?
No, we didn't break up immediately
because it was like two days before our anniversary.
So I tried to salvage the situation.
And it lasted a couple more months, but literally those last months,
before that I was a cycle path because I sensed it.
Right, that's the worst.
Right.
I always say that.
I checked out more after.
Surprisingly, it was like after that I stopped giving a fuck.
And I still loved him and wanted to be with him, but I checked out.
and then I just stopped caring because I'm like,
I couldn't get past.
And it was not like that was the first thing either.
I couldn't get past it.
And I'm like, if I'm checked out, then,
and also obviously it was killing me.
But I felt like it was killing me left after I actually found out
because at least I had the satisfaction of knowing that I'm not crazy.
At least I was right.
Right.
And most of the time, that's what it is.
When women have a really strong intuition,
just the way that it is.
Women are very in touch with their feelings.
And, you know, I have a lot of guy friends
and they'll tell me like, oh, my girl,
we've talked about this before,
that guys will always sort of act like the girl is crazy.
But most of the time when a girl's acting crazy,
it's because she's picking up on shit that the guy's doing.
I never hear my nice guy friends that don't cheat
say that their girl is crazy and suspicious and stuff.
The only time guys are with girls that are suspicious is the cheating one.
You know, so what comes first?
It's your only defense is a guy.
Yeah, exactly.
But what comes first is that there's behavior that is,
and if you're with a girl that has half a brain,
she's going to put stuff together.
Our brains are like computer chips.
If you put something in it one day, right?
It's like you can't help it, especially if you're been traumatized.
It really is half a brain.
Like that was least of the things that I had found.
I mean, I found panties before, like L types of stuff.
What do you mean panties?
Like panties that girls left on the side or he was getting like panties in the mail,
like weird shit panties or like normal shit panties?
Be panties.
Literally the filthiest panties on earth.
Like someone pupped into a pair of,
underwear and sent him on the head.
Oh my God, wait.
Who is this?
I want to have him on the, I want to have him on the show.
He's into dirty panty, like dirty old panties.
No, actually, it wasn't something that I was aware that he was into.
And I thought I knew everything because I knew stuff way worse than that.
I think it was simply just a souvenir for an addict.
Like, I don't think it was actually a fetter.
A trophy.
It was just a souvenir.
Oh, you think he's a sax addict?
Oh, yeah.
I don't think I know.
Oh, you know.
Right. I know some of that. I know people like that. And it exists. I don't know why people don't understand that it exists. It definitely does. I've gone to meetings and stuff and I've heard the guys talking. It's fascinating because I know a lot of guys that have the same issue and it is an issue and it does exist. And when you're with a guy like that, there's always undercurrent and stuff. They have so many different lives going on. It's so hard not to pick up on it. And I have to just say, like you've been traumatized, right? You have this really bad relationship with your father. And when you have that kind of thing, it's like post-traumatic stress disorder.
you become you don't have half a brain you have like 10 brains inside of you you become so
hyper fixated on little things that you pick up on stuff do you know what I mean and unfortunately
the way we're wired when we're fucked up like that is to attract those kind of people that are going to
you know push those buttons you know what I mean so it's like this six sort of thing that happens
between you and the guy I mean it's not a mystery why you attracted that guy and why you you know you're
so suspicious and you pick a guy that's going to do things that are going to tell and
you're hyper aware. I mean, the only guy that you're going to be happy with one day ever to trust is somebody that just has is so like to the core clean cut. You know what I mean? Because you're going to see through everything. You can't help it because you're like hyper focused on it because of, you know, what you've been through. So it's really difficult. But we're always going to be a track. When you're wired that way, you're always going to be much more attracted and turned on and, you know, have a pull towards guys that are going to push that dysfunction in you. You know what I mean?
Absolutely.
So it's like they say, you know, you...
Oh, the reason that obviously I don't...
Because also the type of guys that are going to work is like,
I need a nerd that's not fuckable to anyone.
Like, if I don't want to fuck him, no one else will want to fuck him.
I know, no, no, no.
No.
Stop, Mary.
I'm going to teach you something because you're only 25.
What you need to do is you just need to go to some fucking therapy
and you need to clean your act up and you need to build yourself
and your trust within yourself.
Because what happens, I've seen women that do that.
They can't handle the guys
Because they're only attracted to the guys that cheat on them
And the hot guys that they want to fuck
And they're really into
So then they go for a guy that's like totally beneath them
That makes them feel secure because they're like useless
Or they have no friends
Or they can't leave the house or they're ugly or they won't
And so now you have someone like that's probably not your equal
And that you would never like
If you didn't weren't insecure
No and you to and eventually you'll get bored of that
So what that's not the solution either
And actually actually
Because I initially dated people
who were low.
Right, because they made you feel secure.
And then you went to the guy
that you were really attracted and he made you feel
insecure and that's just a sign to you
that you're fucked up and you need
to clean your act up and the more you
get your act up clean, the more you'll rewire
yourself and be attracted to a different
kind of guy. You don't want that guy beneath
I have a girlfriend that do that.
They go, you know, they can only feel secure
with a guy who's like, you know, has
no friends or can't leave the house or it's
too ugly to ever cheat. You know what I mean?
So then he doesn't. Like, you know, but you don't
want that either because that's probably not really right for you.
I mean, I've changed my life and I've like, everything else in my life is like flourishing.
But as far as like the relationship stuff, like I just don't want to like ever be in that again.
I don't want to bother like even fucking anyone.
Like I just feel like it's like.
It's okay to go sober.
You know, you have to look at it like you're going like kind of sober on guys to try and figure
yourself out for a little while and that's okay.
And that's something good to do.
I've been an addict.
I quit drinking 10 years ago.
You know, after I took alcohol out of my life, I found that other things came up.
You know, the more I cleaned up my act in a lot of other areas, the more other stuff
comes up.
And that's just, that's a natural process.
And it's the reason why people stay addicts their whole lives because they don't really
want to feel the worst stuff that comes up when you sort of take those addictions out, right?
Most of the time you become like weaker and more crazy before you get better.
That's what addicts are holding down.
You know what I mean?
Is all that fucking nonsense that you have.
in your head right now, you know, that you're sort of conscious and aware of that you were
like subconsciously aware of and acting out when you were younger.
Now you don't act out as much, but you have all this shit in your head and you're really
nutty and you still have your issues and you need to like, you need to work on that.
So, you know, I think it's good not to even bother with relationships right now and maybe like
take a break, go sober on it until you figure yourself out a little bit more.
I don't think that's a bad thing.
Absolutely.
And that's how I feel is what's working for me.
And I mean, obviously it seems like, you know, Tommy would say that I need to be fucked.
That's the last thing that I need of all my problems.
It's actually like not what I need.
No, I don't think so either.
Personally, I understand you completely, Mary.
I am you.
I understand.
You don't like my advice.
It's okay.
That's why you're not the host.
That's why you're the co-host.
There you go.
Okay.
So, see, look, I'm being rude to my submissive right now.
I totally understand you, Mary, I'm you, like, 20 years from now.
I'm like, I think, you know, for me, but you're better than me because when I was 25,
I was 10 years away from even figuring any of this shit out.
The fact that you're 25 and you're figuring this out and you're so clear-headed
and you're like on the same page as me and I'm like almost 45, like, makes you so ahead
of the game that you're going to be okay.
I wouldn't like worry about hating guys like you have some issues.
Are you in therapy?
I'm sure you are.
No, I'm not in therapy.
Why are you not in therapy?
I mean, I hate to pimp that out to everybody, but like, why isn't everyone in therapy?
It works.
It works. I'm in therapy.
It works.
Yeah, Tommy was saying today he was going to cut his so cost by getting out of therapy.
I'm like, you just had a baby.
You just got married.
You used to be like the single player.
Like, you need therapy more than, he's like, I have a motorcycle.
He was sort of like, should he give up his motorcycle or therapy?
He's going to give up therapy.
I'm like, you need the therapy over your motorcycle.
The motorcycle looks good.
Yeah, this is why men need women because men are just so dumb.
Like that's how what he was thinking.
And his whole wife is like, I mean, please, you need therapy.
But why are you not in therapy?
I mean, I probably should be.
It says I haven't been in a long time.
Honestly, after I found out that he was cheating, I just like, well, I'm not crazy.
The end.
No, but you have, but no, you have, but that's the whole thing.
You can't do that either.
You have to look at yourself, okay?
Like attracts like.
I'm sorry, I believe that more than anything.
I have always, I have a whole book I wrote.
that I'm self-publishing now, and it's all about my crazy relationships.
I've had every, I have like 30 chapters, and some of those chapters have 10 guys in them,
okay, I've been around the block.
I've had every kind of relationship except a normal one.
That's what I always talk about.
So I totally understand your way, and I had issues with my dad, and, you know,
and I still have issues when it comes to relationship.
It's very claustrophobic to me to think about it, and I don't trust guys, and I have all this kind of stuff.
But when you sit there and you turn around, and I have girlfriends that are like me,
but they're like you, they think it's the guy's fault.
So when they find out the guy's cheating, they just, like, it confirms everything that they think.
But that's your problem.
You pick people that will confirm whatever story was told to you when you're younger.
So it is your problem.
Do you understand?
There's guys out there that could come into your life and tell you a different story.
But that's not the story that you're living by.
You're living by this story.
And you're just keep attracting to it.
And you, it's all you.
It's not him.
He has his own story.
He's got his fucking addict story.
Do you know what I mean?
You have your story that you have to work on.
And you work through it in these kind of crazy relationships.
I feel like every one of my.
even though they were nuts.
Like, you know, each one I learned something and I grow and I changed, but it's still
difficult.
And, you know, all your shit's going to come in relationships.
You could be great in every area of your life.
But that's where you're the most vulnerable.
So that's where everyone's the most crazy and fucked up.
I mean, that's just the way everybody is, you know, because that's where you're not in control.
You're not in control.
And you have to trust.
And, you know, and I have those issues still.
And I'm in therapy.
And psychoanalysis is great.
That's like one kind of therapy.
It's kind of expensive, but it's really good.
because it goes to that like that shit that's guiding you right now.
You're very defensive to guys.
You're closed off.
Oh, yeah.
You know, and you want to go a little sober on guys, but you don't want to shut them out.
You know, you want to have a relationship one day, right?
So you have to, you know, make sure in their time that you're shutting people out that you're doing something to help yourself.
And that should be working on yourself.
If you don't want to go to therapy, read some books or go to some meetings.
They have like love addict meetings, sex addict meetings.
Like you could learn a little bit about your nuttiness and see.
other people, you know, or you need something.
You should be doing something during this time.
Besides getting banged in the ass like Tommy was saying.
Even though that's more interesting, we all know.
But yeah, I'm giving you the point of advice.
You never know. That might be the answer.
If she got a really good booty call.
I've had tons of those kind of relationships.
At the end of the day, what is it?
You eventually want to...
On the relationship, Doc.
You go out to get a booty call and then you find out that he's fucking someone else,
you know.
Right.
Right, right.
Yeah, see, Tommy, this is like the girl world.
No, this is the man-hater show.
It's not a man-hater show because I don't hate men.
I don't.
She doesn't trust men.
She doesn't, she doesn't hate them.
She likes men.
She keeps dating them.
No, I don't.
I hate them.
Oh, she's still young.
She doesn't really, you don't really hate them.
No, I do.
I always have.
I really do.
That's like why my initial reaction to them was to have the next wave.
Okay.
So you hate men?
that that's a process are you i mean unless you're going to turn gay and date women i've been trying to i've
been trying to okay this is more interesting it's what do you mean it's not working girls are
irritating you too i love lesbian no well you know what i just i mean i never really like i mean i'm
like i'm totally open to dating a woman nice i just women seem fucking insane too and i'm like damn i just
like myself like i just want to be in a relationship with me you know like i feel like everyone
else is crazy in that sense.
Yeah, that's your problem right there.
You're fucking crazy too.
Mary.
Okay.
Mary, you have issues, Mary.
I'm going to tell you, stay to your face.
I don't know if you're done of your friends.
If your friends listen to this bullshit and they tell you that you're normal, you're
not normal.
Something's wrong with you.
You have some issues.
You're not that great, but you're probably fantastic in your own ways, but
you deserve a fantastic guy or girl, if that's your thing.
Do you get in on what girl?
Are you sexually attracted to women?
I haven't been really sexually attracted to anyone in a long time
Yeah, see, and something, you're so like you're obviously depressed or like you're, when you're not into you, when you're not horny and you're 25, you're something's wrong with you.
You're supposed to be horny.
You're an animal like to normal.
Are you on the pill?
Because sometimes that takes away your horniness.
So you're not even on the pill.
You're supposed to be horny.
You're supposed to want to fill around people.
You're supposed to have like chemistry.
You're supposed to be, do you jerk off?
I do.
Okay.
you're getting yourself off.
I mean, not daily.
But you need, like, the interaction and the physical contact with another person.
It's, you have issues when it comes to sex.
You have issues when it comes to men.
You have issues when it comes to women.
You have issues.
No, but I get along with women the best.
I love women.
I'm, like, totally the supporter of women, you know, being friends with each other and not freaking hating each other.
Right, totally.
Right.
But you need to, that's great.
That's great.
We don't care about what you're great at.
You need to focus on what you suck at, okay?
And you suck at liking guys.
You suck at getting yourself into sex.
You're missing out.
Sex is like the greatest thing that was ever invented.
And you are going to die one day.
And I used to have a rule.
I never went one month without getting laid.
And I would have long-term booty call people who like,
because I was very monogamous.
I'm very monogamous by nature.
I like to fuck one guy.
And I would stay with that guy.
But I would always make sure that I did that because you need to stay connected to your
pussy, your brain and your pussy.
They need to be connected.
And when you stop, yes.
When you disconnect that, you get so lost, you might not be able to have orgasms with guys.
Like you're fucking yourself up.
Like you, Tommy is kind of right.
You do kind of need to get laid.
I don't have the tables and third.
You do need to stay involved a little bit with the bottom part of your body.
You're like separating.
You know what I mean?
You've disconnected.
And you really shouldn't.
It's not, it's not healthy.
I guess.
I mean, I'm a very psychologically sexual person.
Oh, stop.
Mary.
Psychologically, you're beating guys up.
Psychologically, you're getting laid.
But you're really not in real life.
You're in fantasy land.
You're doing all these great things.
But in real life, you're not.
Your interactions with actual people and intimacy is with two people, not you and your thoughts, is not.
It's not working for you.
Well.
Jami, hold on.
Let's see what she says to that.
Mary, are you still there?
I'm here.
Sorry.
But I really think you need.
I think you're like, you know.
know, you're just, you're, you're closed off in the pussy department, in the love department.
Yeah.
And your head is fine, you know.
But it's the bottom half of your body.
You need to, like, you need to connect everything.
You're disconnected.
Read some books.
I don't know.
Keep engaging with people.
My advice to you is like, try to find someone that you need sacks.
You need to work on yourself.
You need therapy.
And plug the pussy into the brain.
Yeah, you need the, well, yeah, you need.
to make sure that you could figure out
and also figure out what you like.
Do you like men?
Do you like women and then, you know,
try and engage a little bit.
And if you hate men, maybe you should try to figure out why.
This is going to be a good friend.
I would just like an honest person.
I don't really care what they are.
If I can find a decent honest person,
then I would be good.
Okay, well, you know, there are decent.
I have a lot of guy friends and a lot of them lie
and they cheat and they do all that shit.
And some of them are faithful.
They have, that guy exists.
They do, Mary.
I swear to you, I've met them.
They're out there.
A lot of times they're in relationships.
Ask guys their history.
But no, that means.
But you've got to get them when they get out of a relationship.
They're called lifers.
If you meet a lifer, like a guy that just got broken up with by a girl,
the five years or seven years,
and some of them are really hot, okay?
That's the guy you got to get because that guy likes women.
Yeah, so you got to get the history of guys.
But you might, you know, you think, you know, you're young.
So you have a lot of time to,
if you want to close your,
off to sex for the next five years and not get late and not care about it and not think that
that's like that's a waste of your life that's not a good idea just so you know you're going to die
one day mary like you're literally going to be on your deathbed and you're going to fucking die
and you're going to think back to like do you really think when you're on your death bed you might regret
like those three years that you didn't have sex because like the sex is over you know what i mean
like this is the time this is the time well for it that um there is honest guys out there and
you know, I'll be open to finding them.
At least I'll believe that they exist.
Right. Believe that they exist. But know that the next guy that you are so physically attracted to that you can't handle it and that you see from across the room that stands out to you.
Know that that's the worst guy in the room for you.
Don't trust your pussy. You're wired improperly.
Sorry to say.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah. So any guy you're going to be really horny for is going to be an asshole.
So to those nice guys, you probably won't even like them anyway.
this is terrible advice.
I'm like Debbie Downer.
Yeah, you are Debbie Downer.
Yeah, I have like no advice.
I say trust your box.
Yeah, you still have to go there.
You have to work on that story.
And if wherever,
but you know,
try to reconnect and try to get like horny again.
We do follow up call.
So please keep us posted.
If you get like a new boyfriend or if you get laid.
Yeah, Tommy.
Even if you get late and it's like amazing and you realize Tommy is right.
Like we have people that call back in later,
even if it's like three weeks later to hear.
Mary, I would love a follow-up call, and you tell me I'm right.
What?
I'll do it, but I don't know about three weeks.
Oh, you mean sex?
Yes.
We'll see.
You never know who you'll meet.
You'll never know who you meet every day.
You leave your house.
You never know who you're going to meet.
Yeah, exactly.
You never know when you go to the wrong airport by accident.
Yeah.
That you're going to bump into the man of your dreams.
I don't know.
But you have to keep your mind open.
You know,
you can't be so closed off
excuse me
that you actually run into that
person and because you
you're so closed off you don't
get to meet them so you got to keep
your mind and your legs open and hope
it happens right
but she also has right and you have to
know that your personality the aggressiveness
that's all what turns guys off and they think you're a con
it's probably your closed offness
and you're sort of
you hate men right and you don't trust
them you think that just like you smell
a guy cheating on you a mile away
you think that guys don't pick up on that
too so that's what a guy
is picking up on it it's not your aggressive
personality and it's not that you're not
like nice like these other girls it's that
you secretly hate
men and you know what I mean
so they know that
so that you got to work on that like that's not
like that they're picking up on it
that was awesome advice
thank you okay Mary
so go get yourself some fucking therapy
please
And we'll check back with you in a few weeks, all right?
All right.
Thank you guys.
Bye, Mary.
Thanks for calling in.
Bye.
Thank you.
Bye.
Bye.
Okay.
Fuck her.
She was a...
Man hating bitch.
She's young.
I hate to say that because young people hate to be called young, especially when they're in their...
But, I mean, young is not a bad thing.
No, but you know when you're young, you always want to be older.
You want to be older, and then you're older, and then you're older and you want to be younger again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't say it as a bad thing.
I say it as like, she has so much time.
And that's like normal to be messed up when you're younger,
especially if you had a history like her.
But why do you say fuck her?
You didn't like her because she was like not a man hater.
She was a man hater.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm not saying, oh, because she wasn't, whatever,
I made a little bit of an abrasive comment.
I say that because she's so closed off.
You know what I mean?
And she just says, I'm a man hater.
And she admits it.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, you know what?
She's going to go on like that.
And she's just going to keep hating men and keep hating.
and keep hating men.
Look at how she started off at 15, like, abusing men and getting off on it.
Somebody touched her, and she didn't appreciate it.
Totally, totally.
But that's what she has to work on.
Yeah, but she needs to.
And when I, listen, I said it to very rough way she needs to get fucked.
She actually really does.
No, you're right.
She needs to get a little ass.
No, but she needs to, like, I don't, I think she's very, she's, like I said,
she's wired improperly.
She's separated.
She's not paying attention to that area of her body.
Like, she's all closed off.
She doesn't know what she's doing.
She's being defensive in all the weird ways that she's trying to,
to solve this problem with herself
in all the wrong ways. You understand?
By not having sex, by hating men.
The problem is not these other people, like she thinks.
No.
Problems about herself.
Yeah.
Maybe she might meet the right woman, and all that will change.
She sounds like she was fucked with women too.
She's just like all over the place.
She's, I don't know, what did you say about women?
I didn't even understand that.
They're just as crazy and you know what I mean?
Yeah.
And then she thinks she's great, but then she has problems.
She's like, you know what it is?
It's weird.
All these people that call in, I seem like,
They always seem so like their problems are one thing.
Then they call in.
And it seems like they don't even really know what their problems are.
No, I think she's just all jacked up on the wrong idea.
She hates men.
Yes.
Yeah.
And she wonders why they hate her.
I think she's a cunt.
She got fucked over by one guy.
Her father.
Is that what you're talking about?
Oh, that's cold.
Yeah.
No, she got fucked over by one guy.
Oh, the sexaholic.
But then she got screwed over by a guy.
She was probably head over heels in love with.
No, but when you're that messed up,
I'm going to tell you, when you hate men and you believe that no men trust you, you will
attract exactly the type of man that will only tell you exactly what you think. That's the law
of the universe. We're not Oprah, but Oprah would agree. That's just the way that it goes. Whatever you're
thinking in your little brain, if you're a man-hater, you're going to get that kind of guy that's
going to totally confirm your suspicions. It's just unfortunately the way it works. So that's why
she got that guy. I hate when these women friends of mine, because I've got guys like that and I know
that it's me. It's not them. It's my own
thing. It's my own issue.
Why are you looking at me funny? You're not crazy.
No, I have my things and I work on it.
But I have a lot of friends that have
the same things and they don't admit it. They think
it's, oh, I just keep, these people are just
assholes. Let's take a bet.
The next time we talk to her,
if we talk to her again,
what do you think? Prediction.
Nothing like long. Okay, how long?
Give me, like, how long?
In six months. In six months?
she maybe has fucked that guy that had the dirty panties and you know there's been drama there yeah the ex yeah the ex so you're predicting that she goes back to the ex
i'm predicting that she might have a rendezvous with him because she needs to get laid and that doesn't go anywhere um i predict that she's not going to meet a guy for like 15 years
oh okay if she doesn't get therapy or work on these kind of compulsions don't go away on their own trust me trust me trust me
All right.
It's not a good scene if you don't do the work.
So she'll just keep having all these kind of crazy things.
I think she's very far off from having a relationship.
She doesn't even like to get laid.
Sex is a part of a relationship, but that's like one of the good parts of the relationship.
That's like God's healthy drug to human beings.
Yeah, that's one thing.
I never want to, I never put that on it.
Like I was always into, like it's not a healthy thing.
I had two years of my life once before I quit drinking.
I went a year without sex for a reason.
Like I specifically was like,
because I was getting drunk
and I was just sleeping with people
and I was like I need to control my
I didn't realize I need to quit drinking
not quit having sex.
Drinking's never the problem.
No, not at all.
Take it for me.
Everything else.
Drinking's never the problem.
Yeah, everything else is the problem.
I don't understand why I'm putting on so much weight.
No, the funny thing is there was this guy
we had a friend of ours,
my friend's boyfriend's friend and he was so ugly.
You just like he had a Frankenstein face.
No, like a Frankenstein Down syndrome face.
Like Frankenstein with like Down syndrome faces.
Okay.
And he was like
He was my go-to guy
Like somehow
No, I swear to God
Wait, you were fucking the ugly guy?
Yeah, no, only in blackouts.
No, but this was so crazy.
And so I would sleep with him in a black
This is why I quit.
And then I'd call him up.
He was my friend.
He was friend.
You know, I knew him really well.
So I'd sleep with him every night when I was drunk
Because I never slept with strangers.
I would like sleep with guy friends.
And I would sleep.
And then I would call him up the next day.
And I would be like,
I can't believe.
Like I would complain to him and like I can't believe I had sex with you.
It's so terrible.
And then he'd talk me out of it and be like, don't worry about it.
Like I was like, it was kind of like an insult.
Like wouldn't you be insulted if the girl called you up that fuck to you the name before?
And she was so guilty.
I was like, I want to kill myself.
Like I want to get hit by a cab.
Like I'd feel so terrible about myself with him.
And I would call him up and vent this to him.
And he'd be like, don't worry about it.
And then the next night I'd sleep with him again.
Oh, I'd wait for you to come back.
That's when I would get my revenge.
Yeah.
And then I'd fuck him again.
And then...
How are you walking today?
And then I...
Betty Blackout.
No, he was really into trains.
You know, there's like a...
There's people that are into trains.
Huge.
My accountants are into trains.
No, but just watching trains on the computer.
Just drive by.
Hong Kong.
Like, and they just drive by.
It's like some weirdo...
I think it's like a weirdo brain thing.
What about people who watch fish?
No, these are trains.
I know I get it, but like you sit and watch a fish go by in a fish tank.
You're maybe you're stoned.
This guy was watching trains on his computer.
Like, it's a weird thing.
It's like an autistic thing or like an idiot savant.
He was a brilliant genius.
And he was a musician and some people liked him.
I found him so physically repulsive and ugly, but for some reason.
Not when the blues was flown, baby.
I was literally in blackouts.
Then I'd wake up and he'd be literally in my bed like cuddling with me.
And I'd be like hard.
Not again.
Get your own pillow.
Like get the fuck out of my apartment.
It was so just so I quit sex because I couldn't control myself.
But I was able.
I couldn't control the alcohol.
so I would control the sex
and I was able to stop having sex
for a whole year
before I quit.
And then I quit drinking
and then I was allowed to have sex.
Then I could have sex again
because I could like,
you know,
I wasn't sleeping with the ugly guys anymore.
Well, that's good.
Yeah, he never got late again by me.
He probably never got late again, period.
No, he's married to actually
a really cute girl and stuff.
I just found him so.
Is she a drunk?
His Frankenstein face is gross.
Is she a drinker?
I don't know.
But anyway.
Hopefully we'll hear back from Mary
and she'll be doing
better but she won't we'll probably never hear back from her and that's okay because it was an
interesting call it was yeah yeah i like when we have girls on they are nice every once in a while
i think you found her boring be honest um i no i didn't find her boring i think i had different
expectations for her yeah because when i when i read the email when you read the email to me
because i don't do anything yeah um i thought this was a professional dominatrix and she was gonna
tell a little bit more about that world
and then how she got out of it, you know.
Then I find out that
she's just a man-hater.
Yeah, and she didn't even have sex.
That whole, I'm so, 50 Shades of Grey.
Like, why do people think that that was such a horny book?
Like, what is, there's no sex going on.
I don't read.
In these real people's lives, I don't read that book another,
but in these people's lives, they're not even having sex.
So, yeah, I like the call.
It was interesting because I understand women like that.
Let's see what happens to her.
Okay.
So, you know, next call, I think we're going to have another girl calling.
A double bubble.
I had someone email me and this girl turned to prostitution, but not willing.
No, not willingly.
Oh, no.
My blackout drunk banging the downs.
Oh, that's not nice.
She, no, she was like kidnapped and drug.
Oh, I feel horrible for even saying that.
No, we don't even know if it's a true story.
But she was supposedly drugged and kidnapped and then forced into prostitution.
And I think we're going to have our own show.
I'm excited to talk to her.
It should be very interesting.
I don't know.
We don't know if the story is true.
We'll see where it goes. We don't know.
Exactly right.
Until next time next week.
Bye.
Bye.
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