Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 010 - Ex Dominatrix Mary is Having Trouble Dating Guys

Episode Date: February 16, 2014

Mary used to be a Dominatrix and mostly dated male submissoves. Now that she's out of the fetish world, she is having trouble in the vanilla dating world. She can't relate to "normal" guys but is tha...t really her only problem? Is Mary even ready to date? Tune in to find out.   **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. Craigslist is definitely the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it. The temptation is just too much.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Real problem. Does your friend know that you're banging her? No, he has no idea. And anything goes. The motto of the show, let your reflect lie. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to re-hide your whips and check. Here are your hosts, Kathy Kay and Tommy. Hey, welcome to Strictly Anonymous Podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Woohoo. Tommy, I'm so fucking sick of doing the intro. Can't you one day say, hi, welcome to Strictly Anonymous Podcast. I didn't know I was allowed. You know what? I'm going to out you right now. I'm going to out you right now because this isn't a fake show. All right, I'm teasing. I've asked you before we tape all the time.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Do you feel like doing that? And you say no every time. So you know you're allowed to. You're just being a phony fuck. Hey, welcome to Strictly Anonymous podcast. This is Tommy with Kathy with a K. Yeah, I like that Kathy with a K. I'm so sick of Kathy K as the name.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Yeah. Yeah, I really am. So Tommy, I didn't tell you this, but we have a girl today calling it and I'm very excited. Oh, give the email address of where people could call because we want people to call in. I mean, we post on Craigslist.
Starting point is 00:01:29 We post on back page. You can follow us on Twitter, on strict anonymous. But also tell them where to email their problems. Hmm. That is a strange one, huh? You, that even wasn't,
Starting point is 00:01:43 you know what? That wasn't even a test. Okay, email us if you have a problem, you want to, you know, discuss or be on our show. We welcome all and everyone
Starting point is 00:01:52 and everything. It's okay. And you can follow us, right? You can get on a podcast. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:02:00 You're not even listening. I said to send in the show. How are you today? To send in your problem, email us at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at Gmail. Listen to Tommy at gmail.com. Strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:18 That's a good one. And you can go on your iPhone and go to podcasts. And find us. And subscribe to our show. Yeah. Please subscribe. Yeah. And listen to all our shows.
Starting point is 00:02:30 So yeah. We're getting good people. calling in now. Okay, so I have a girl named Mary. She's out on ex-dominatrix. Basically, this is her problem. She said basically. Basically, I used to be really involved in the fetish scene and mostly have dated
Starting point is 00:02:45 male submissives. She was a dominatrix. Now, as I'm getting older and trying to be in the vanilla dating world, it's hard for me to relate to normal men and I usually hurt their feelings. I guess she's used to hurting other things. Yeah, and getting paid for it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:59 I have a hard time understanding that men, are sensitive. Every guy I date initially thinks I'm amazing. Then weeks later, thinks I'm a cunt on wheels. How can I stop scaring them away without being phony? She had another question and she didn't know which one she should ask. I'm going to out her second question because I believe that they're both connected. Her other problem is after a long-term relationship that seemed perfect, there was a fidelity issue that she found out about. I guess she caught her guy cheating. And it's been three years and I can't bring myself to look at anyone as a potential mate. I have a hard time believing that any man can be faithful so it's completely stopped me from being close to anyone.
Starting point is 00:03:34 How does one come back from being cheated on without blindly just getting cheated on again? So like, you know, like, duh, like she's sitting here wondering what guys think she's a cunt and then she's saying she can't ever see anyone as a mate. So I feel like we've solved this whole problem. We don't even need to talk to her. Okay. Solve it. She's a manator?
Starting point is 00:03:51 Yeah, because the one cheated on her. But the dominatrix thing. So we have a lot to discuss with her. Okay. I have more questions about like the guys and what she would do to. them and what they were like you know i always wonder what type of guy sort of because they say like it's always like the really successful ones that are very domineering in their regular life and then they want to go and get you know i don't know stabbed in the nipples by a girl like yeah like me i want to go to place
Starting point is 00:04:16 where i can just absolutely beat that not beat but dominate a woman right now that's how i feel why do you having a fight with your wife oh you hate your wife i love my wife no tell the truth she's not no no no no no i love my wife so why do you hate women i don't hate women so why do you want to beat up a Just to get it out. Just to get it out. No, it's... Tell the truth. Communication.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Right, and you guys are having communication problems at home? Be honest. This is what we're here for. Well, if you let me fucking answer, I will be honest. Okay. Instead of interrupting me. Okay, you're right. It is a big flaw of mine.
Starting point is 00:04:46 It is a huge flaw you. Maybe this dominatrix can lend us a ball gag. Or maybe I should be a dominat. Shove something in your mouth. So anyway, no, it's all... It's communication, you know? And it's not a man and a woman, woman. It's the fact when you live with somebody.
Starting point is 00:05:02 It's human beings. And when you're with them 24-7. Oh, torture. It's torture. It's so hard. I know. I believe and remember the Lat relationships living apart together. I want a house right next door to someone or an apartment next door.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Not that. With a door that opens and closes. I think there should be some universally accepted like separate vacations. Totally. Absolutely. Yeah. I really think I think we have it all. I think that marriage the way they have it is so wrong and retarded.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I really do. Living together in one place. your whole life That's fine as long as I'm not living together In an apartment Right if you have a house That intensifies it Even if you have a house
Starting point is 00:05:39 Don't you need like like You know you need wings of the house Like you need your bathroom over there Her bathroom over there You need like places where you're Right that's what I mean Yeah You're in an apartment
Starting point is 00:05:49 I don't know I feel for you Yeah I mean when I was single I think it's a complication problem I think it's a situation When I was single I used to get mad at my dog
Starting point is 00:05:58 Because I was living with him so much I know with my cat, if she meows, I want to fucking throw her out the window. Don't say that. No, she doesn't mean that, everybody. No, I really do. I've said this before. I'm like, my cat would be, like, I've always wondered if I could get her vocal cords removed. Because then she would be, like, so perfect.
Starting point is 00:06:16 The only annoying thing she does is meows sometimes that really inappropriate times. I know how you. Not cute meows, like irritating meows. Okay. There's a different. I know how you're a big fan of my stories. Oh, no. But I got a really good one.
Starting point is 00:06:29 They're boring. No, this is funny. All right, but don't make it interesting. It's very interesting. It goes on your vocal cord thing. Okay. There was a neighbor that lived down the street from us. She had two border collies.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And all day long, they just kept barking and barking and barking and barking. And they had so many problems. She surgically had their vocal cords removed. It works? It happened. And it sounded like two old men dying in the backyard. No, like they had lung cancer. It was horrible.
Starting point is 00:07:03 So, of course, as kids, we used to go and, like, fuck with the dogs to make them go. So that's my story. I know you love it. No, that is a good story because I've always wondered, like, Ken, because sometimes I once tweeted, like, when my cat meowses, she's telling me she wants me to remove her vocal cords. Like, how do I know that's not what she's saying? How do I know that she, when she's chasing me? And it only happens on the days that I'm stressed out. She just chases me around the house and meows for no reason.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And I really feel like she's saying, please, mommy. Take my vocal cords out. I hate meowing. And if anybody from PETA is listening to this, this is a comedy routine. No, I mean, I really, I can't. But I really believe that she picks up, I think that the animal picks up on your strass. Like the animals are most annoying when you're most stressed out. And I think that what comes first, the chicken, like, what comes first, her irritating behavior or my irritating energy?
Starting point is 00:07:52 I think my irritating stressful energy irritates her. And then she meows like a fucking asshole. And then I want to throw her out the window. Oh, my God. Oh, not to talk about current offense, but this has to do with our show. No, this is going to air eight months in advance. This has to do with our show. Polygamy is now legal in Utah.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Oh, my God. I love this. That's awesome. I still not born in the right time period because I was born when it wasn't like a thing. I need to be born 100 years from now. I mean, I'm going to die soon eventually, right? You would be a sister wife? I don't think that would happen.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Yes, 100%. Maybe not in this, not in this persona. Like not with, I have to be born again as somebody else. I think so. Yeah. Somebody completely different. Complete. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Totally. I agree. I mean, that's no joke. You're completely right. Yeah. But I would be, I would even, I was talking to friend last night, I would even probably with, I've had open relationships. I've had open, I've had relationships with guys where they sleep with other people.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I've had every kind of relationship, like we said, except a normal one. So, and I'm very open. And I believe that guys, fuck other people when they're with someone. that they love and has nothing to do with anything. And I really believe that if I found a guy that I really trusted and really loved, and that guy over time gave me the security, emotional security that I needed and I believed that he was there with me and he really loved me. I believe that I would be able to be okay with him having sex if he wanted to.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Do you understand? I really do believe that. But I think it's the lack of having that security. I've never had that from a guy because something's wrong with me. And I just attract. No. Well, I don't have issues when it comes to relationships.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I don't, I mean, and it's funny that I have this show because I'm talking to people about their relationships. That's like really bad. Only a fuck that person can solve your problems. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:39 exactly. But I'm not even solving people's problems. I'm just listening to them because they're fascinating. But, um, uh, I think that it's, uh,
Starting point is 00:09:49 so I think, I mean, I get that. I believe in that, you know? I just haven't gotten to that place yet. Okay. I only like unavailable guys.
Starting point is 00:09:57 All right. So, but I would, I believe in, I believe in polygamy or whatever it takes to make women happier. This isn't about men happier because men are polygamous now. There's tons of guys that have a thousand women and all this stuff. It's for women. I want polygamy around for women. The only problem is the whole religious thing that probably goes with it. Who cares about religion?
Starting point is 00:10:22 What does that have to do with anything? There shouldn't be anything connected. That's so stupid. That's why it's legal. It's because of these Mormons. Because what? It's a Mormon practice. What's a Mormon practice?
Starting point is 00:10:36 Polygamy. Who cares? By the time it comes back and it will be, it'll be, so gay people weren't supposed to be married and now they're all getting married. So fuck religion and what it says about that. I feel like I'm sure there's places in the Bible where people, I'm not listening to you because I'm reading text.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I know. Did I miss something? You missed a whole lot and I'm going to stop you before you say something wrong. Yeah. All right. So anyway, what are you reading? No, what did you just say? Polygamy exists because of... Exists or is illegal?
Starting point is 00:11:09 No, is legal because of the religion. The religion's not against it. Right. Yeah. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Mormonism is why they believe in polygamy. Right. Well, I think more people should be like the Mormons.
Starting point is 00:11:24 I don't like Like religion interfering No absolutely not It's like I can't even go there Remember my father was a priest You know one day we'll get into my One day we should have like someone call in that we think is smart And then they should give me advice
Starting point is 00:11:40 That'd be fun Yeah I just don't know who that person is But we'll have somebody When I have my wife call in Oh God Her problem We have her issues we could deal with
Starting point is 00:11:51 I would love to have her on the show That's not gonna happen And talk about why she's so nervous about you being at my apartment. Aw. She's not, don't worry, she's not listening. This is like 10 episodes in. She's feeding the baby, Tommy. Because you're here.
Starting point is 00:12:05 You're here. She has no time. Along with Kathy's cat. Kathy's going to go out the window. No, she's having a good meow. You know, sometimes she meows. Like, there's different meows that mean different things. A lot of her meows are delicious and yummy and so cute.
Starting point is 00:12:21 I love it. I'm not a cat person. But it's okay. that's okay but when she meows with her annoying meo it's so ugly sounding i can't take it it's like girls with annoying voices like that's why i never wanted a baby girl because i don't like girl voices an irritating girl voices like some people will probably write in and say my voice is irritating but i mean like high-pitch rare rare rare cartoon character voices that you hear in murray hill you ever there's certain neighborhoods in new york city where if you go eat at a restaurant you feel like you're on
Starting point is 00:12:51 the cartoon network it's just cartoon voices all around. It's always packs of girls sitting and for some reason, always the irritating girl with the irritating voice is the only one that talks and then the nice friend with the nice voice just listens and the irritating girl talks, talks, talks, and she never has anything interesting to say. So I just, I wonder what the psychology is behind that. Did you drink coffee today? No, I have PMS actually. That would explain your charming attitude. Why? Is that being mean? I don't like bad voices. That's okay. I would say that on any day, any day, even when I'm not P-M-Sing.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Okay. Okay. So I can't wait to talk to this dominatrix girl. I feel like that should have been my calling. No, I don't like to humiliate it. I actually like to be more taken advantage of by the guy. Like, you know what I mean? I'm more of a submissive than I am like a dom.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Okay, that's good. Yeah, I don't think I could do that. You don't care. So we'll be right back with Mary the Dom. That's her name, by the way. Mary? Yeah, that's what she chose. I mean, I know her real name.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And I know, she came. to us through a mutual friend or like someone that knows the show and he sent her over. So I know for a fact that she's hot. He said she's really hot. And she chose, and I know her real name, but she I said make up a name and she made up Mary. Like we'll talk about that too because it's like so
Starting point is 00:14:06 vanilla. Talk about vanilla. She's having vanilla sex. She's dating vanilla guys and now she has a fake vanilla name. I think she was probably way cooler when she was a dominatrix. We'll ask her that. Okay. We'll be right back with Mary the Vanilla X. Dominatrix.
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Starting point is 00:15:02 Yes, it is. How are you? Good. How are you doing, Mary? We were just discussing your name. Why would you choose Mary? We thought that was such a lame name. Yeah, that's very vanilla. Vanilla, yeah. We're like, oh, she's having vanilla sex now, so she's picked a vanilla name. A vanilla name. Oh, actually, I've always used that. As dirty as things I've gotten, I always use Mary.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I don't know why. I just, like, I'm really bad at, like, being put on the spot for, like, a name. and that's only one that ever comes out. I should pick something way cooler. But so when you go to Starbucks and like, what's your name? You're like Mary? Yes, anywhere. Anytime someone asks my name, it just blurks out of my mouth. But what about when you were a dominatrix?
Starting point is 00:15:45 Did you have a name there that you could tell us? Did you use Mary? No, well, I actually, I wasn't necessarily a dominatrix. I was more like just, it was more personal, so I used my real name. Oh, so what was that all about? That's actually how psychotic I am That I would You know
Starting point is 00:16:04 Lie to the person at Starbucks But then the person that You know I have a fetish relationship with I'm telling them my real name Right Pretty crazy Right right
Starting point is 00:16:13 No I always lie to Starbucks people For some reason Because it's like why not It's like you know I don't know why I'm so bored I'm sitting there waiting in line I just figure if I give him a fake name It's for some reason
Starting point is 00:16:23 You feel like you're getting away with something I don't know why What's wrong Tommy Why are you fucking like No then I just I just hear a little bleep on it Oh feedback right?
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yeah. Hold on. Hold on. Mary. I can't say that. Name Series is so dull. Hold on. My backup would be like Joan.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Joan is just as bad. So you weren't really a dominator, but you just used to like beat the shit out of the guys that you dated? Yeah. I mean, I typically, I don't know. I'm not sure it's just my personality, but like I tend to attract a lot of submissive guys and guys who have, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:58 I guess problem. sexually and sexual deviance and stuff. But do you think that you attract them or that you're attracted to that type? You must be attracted to that type. I'm definitely not attracted to that type anymore. It's been a long time since I found that attractive, but it's still like my personality. So it's pretty hard to like, you know, I mean. Are you like dominant all the time?
Starting point is 00:17:27 Are you like the aggressor? I know well you know what I personally I don't really I mean obviously to the point that I was attracted to guys who thought that guys were low probably you know I don't have such a great view of guys to begin with so I don't find myself attracted to that many people okay so wait let's rewrecked to the situation right so you wrote in your initial problem that you wanted to discuss is you used to sort of be in the fetish world and you had you would be with guys that were submissive and now you're you're you're you're you're you would be with guys that were submissive and now you're you're you're you you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're doing more of the vanilla scene and I guess you're not dating those kind of guys anymore, but guys still think you're a cunt. And I'm assuming you were a cunt to the submissives and now you're like, cuntie to other people too, right? And you can't like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Right. And you know, I just like, I guess like a lot of like regular vanilla guys that don't like these type of, that don't specifically go for a type of dominant woman. They want you to fucking lie to them. They want you to pretend to be weak and pretend to be like a certain way. very true. So it's like, I know a lot of girls who they're really nice to their boyfriends, but they're actually cunts because they're cheating
Starting point is 00:18:37 bitches. Yeah, no, exactly. I'm at least up front, I'm at least up front, but guys don't see, you know. No, it's true. I have a friend who's like, was every guy's dream girl. She's like gorgeous, she's quiet. She doesn't really do much, but she's like the, she's a compulsive liar. Like the shit, she, her husband doesn't know about her. The, She's done in her life, you know?
Starting point is 00:19:00 And it's that's the way. But that's like, that's every guy's sort of thing. And that's what guys get when they want that. They get women that lie. Because most women are assertive. And I think every woman has that part of themselves. But most people keep it under wraps because guys don't like it. Society doesn't like it.
Starting point is 00:19:16 It's really shunned upon. And when you're like a woman that's not like that, like it's just, it's not a good scene. And you're fishing in a much smaller pond. Wait a minute. We've been lied to. We're me and you are fishing in the same pond. We're being lied to? What I mean you're being?
Starting point is 00:19:29 Yeah, you're totally being lied to. Those guys are being lied to? Yeah, I don't know about your wife. What is she, Tommy? Tommy's married. But Tommy, what, before he was married, was a total player. My wife is Latin. So she's not submissive.
Starting point is 00:19:41 No. Right. I remember you guys used a raging fights before you. Yeah, she's got a lot of fire. Yeah, she puts, so she's very feisty bitch. And you always liked aggressive girls. I know you always liked older women. So you're not that guy.
Starting point is 00:19:53 You would have liked Mary, quote unquote. Absolutely, Mary. I'm going to come up with. the new name for you by the day. I'm going to call you dumb Mary. I just want to tell you a text message exchange that me and Mary had before you got here that just shows how stupid we both are. I had emailed her, I think the number of the show. I thought I did. And then so she gave me her number and said, text me the day of, and I said, I'll text you the day of to confirm. So we're texting today this morning. I'm like, text or are you confirmed? She said yes.
Starting point is 00:20:20 And then she texted me back. Like a bunch of things we texted, right? Back and forth. Yeah. And then she texted me last minute. What's the number that I call in? Shush! Tommy, don't kick my thing. So I said, oh, shit, I'm so sorry. Like, here's the number. I can't believe I forgot to give it to you. And then she writes back. She's actually, and now she becomes smarter than me because she's like, oh, duh,
Starting point is 00:20:43 we're emailing on the number. You obviously gave it. We're tax mess. I'm like, oh, my God, we're so stupid. And then she's like, no, I'm really stupid. I went to the wrong airport yesterday and had to buy another ticket to fly out. So could you just please tell me that story very quickly? You went to the wrong airport.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Like where, you live in L.A.? Yeah, I live in L.A. And I was coming back from New York. And it was, it was so retarded. Like, first of all, I have no idea. I would never fly out of JFK. I don't understand how the ticket got booked from JFK. I would.
Starting point is 00:21:15 But who booked your ticket? I booked the ticket. This is the problem. Right. But, you know, I, you know what? There is an option, though, that when you're booking, where it just says all New York airports. And I feel like I must have had to quit that.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yeah, surrounding airports, it says, yeah. Oh, so I'm, like, checking in at Newark and literally, like, hitting a kiosk. I'm abusing the kiosk, and the guy comes over to me. And I'm like, this thing is fucking broken. And he's, like, looked at my, you know, itinerary. And he's like, yeah, well, you're not flying out of this airport. You weren't even in the same. It wasn't even, like, JFK to L.
Starting point is 00:21:58 LaGuardia. It was like Newark, you were in New Jersey. That's really bad. First of all, I'm so neurotic. Before I purchase any tickets, I always look because I'm like,
Starting point is 00:22:06 what if I put the wrong date? I look through everything. You have to focus more, Mary. Let's focus back on your guy problems. I'm so, like, nonchalant with stupid shit like that. I like fucking learned my lesson because it cost me
Starting point is 00:22:18 $500 extra dollars. Oh, it's so painful. Yeah, that is really bad. Okay, let's go back to your guy issue, though.
Starting point is 00:22:25 But first of all, let me just go back a little bit. Like you said at some point, early on that you had you don't think highly of men to begin with so where does that come from did that is that why you got into sort of you know dating submissive guys and treating them like shit or was it only like the submissive thing and you being more of a dominant person was that only like sexually or was it in the whole relationship or these were long were these long relationships or just sexual relationships well um when I was younger
Starting point is 00:22:53 I mean you know I got really interested in this stuff when I was like really young like 15. So I had like and you know at that point obviously there's a bunch of older guys who would love a 15, 16 year old girl to beat shit out of them. Right, what was the oldest guy? Wait, what was the oldest guy
Starting point is 00:23:11 when you were 15, 16 that was like that you were getting it on with? Oh, not, no, I actually, I didn't have sex or anything with any of them, but they were just like, you know, kind of like, they were more like when I was younger, more like verbal relationships and then as I got older.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Oh, okay. By the time I was like 18, I mean, I can't even, I didn't even know, but they're fucking old, some of them. Right. But when did, when you say you were involved in the fetish scene, like, what were the fetishes that you were into and that you were engaging in? Well, I mean, I'm really into, like, humiliation and degradation, a lot more psychological stuff. But is that when they're naked? Like, or when they're just like when you're watching a movie together or when you're out to dinner? Like when you.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Oh, no. Well, yeah, they would probably be naked because that was like, you know. But what does that even mean? Because I'm not into that world and I've never been into it. So like, so you get like, what do you, what would you be into? You would want to, like, what was your deal? Like, what would get you turned on? You would get turned on by like taking a guy's clothes off and then like, like, she.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Well, no, definitely not, not me taking his clothes off. He should just be fucking naked by the time I enter. Oh. You should just be fucking naked on the floor. Like, it's mostly just like, I. I was more into psychological stuff. And also, I'm like the type, I don't want to get my hands dirty. I don't want to break a sweat.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Right. No, we've had a guy call in that was a dominatrix guy. And he told us that, yeah, it's more about all this other stuff, less about sex, right? Yeah, there's never really sex. I mean, I had eventually dated some people that were, the people that I was actually in real relationships with were more, like, we're not, like, actually submissive and just, like, to play submissive sexually. but basically you know you would have them so they would be naked so these guys eventually you'd get to a place with these guys where they knew exactly what the deal was and you know if you were like with them or hanging out with them you at some point would come home or they would be there when you were going to engage with them and they'd be already naked and you walk in the room and what do you do have them like greet me I like crawling on the floor and kissing my shoe you know like basically
Starting point is 00:25:31 It's mostly to completely lower and degrade them. And that's like when I was younger, I mean, I was very fixated with it, and I did it a lot with a lot of people. And it was like my relationship with most guys that I had interacted with. Right. And you. But you weren't having sex with these guys, too. No, because they're like, they're fucking disgusting.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I'm not going to have sex with them. But you were having relationships with them. But they were only, me in the context of like the role play right yeah that it would never be a relationship because they were so low it could never be more right but were you engaging in real relationships on the side
Starting point is 00:26:15 or was this like your your form of like the fulfillment at that place in you know what I mean like yeah it was for a time and then I did have a couple times where I was in serious relationships and I did it on the side and the guys that I was dating were cool with it.
Starting point is 00:26:34 They knew. Would you take payment? When I was much younger, but I learned pretty early on that then the, you know, the table's turn. If someone's getting money out of it, then basically I'm not that in charge, am I? No, that's paying you. No, exactly. But exactly. If he's the one with the money in his hands, then gangling it in my face, then I don't have the power anymore.
Starting point is 00:26:58 So, you know, I feel like, you know, that's... Where the hell was your father when you were growing up? What did he do to you, Mary? Me and my father have talked in a very long time. You what? Me and my father haven't talked in a very long time. Right. So it started there.
Starting point is 00:27:16 You didn't have a good relationship with your dad. And do you feel like you hated men or you used to? Because I know that eventually, I talked about this with time before I read him your whole email because we're going to discuss both things. You had a relate. That relationship. where the guy cheated on you? Was that like...
Starting point is 00:27:31 Yeah. That was after, actually. This is after I started to be like, these fucking slaves are draining. It's more work to have a slave. Totally than a regular relationship. Right. You're not even getting laid.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Well, the thing is that they want to do stuff for you. They want to clean your house. They want to go do stuff for you. That's what they like to do. I have guy friends that do that for me, and I don't even have to humiliate them. I just got to talk to them on the phone sometimes and then they come over and do whatever I want
Starting point is 00:28:03 But you You know, that's just called guy friends See, no, I don't have guy friends Because I feel all guy friends Either eventually want to be your bitch or be your man I feel like I can't find a balance to just be friends Right, right I've always had a lot of guy friends
Starting point is 00:28:22 When I was drinking I'd wind up sleeping with them And now that I don't drink I don't sleep When's the last time you actually got laid Right. You're sensing that there's no sex going on. Yeah, when's the last time you really, you know, you had some good, old-fashioned, just hard sex. Regular sex. See? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Regular sex? Yeah. Like bent over and just pounded. It was about a year ago, and it was like two years before that. Oh, my God. Mary. Mary has, Mary, you have another issue that you don't know about. You need to get pounded.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Your issue should be I don't have a desire for sex and I'm a young girl and I don't know what's wrong with me Why are you not getting laid? I sucked enough when I was younger. How old are you? I'm 25.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Okay, you're still very young. Okay, how old were you when you lost your virginity? I was 16. Okay, so you're a year off of sex now before that it was two years? Yeah. And when you say no sex, like is that, are we talking no anything? Or like, did you have orgasms with guys?
Starting point is 00:29:33 Like maybe they go down on you or you blow them or like no or just no penetration or nothing? Really just in like these like past like three years, it's been pretty much nothing. Like I mean usually when I was younger, I mean I'm the type of person that, you know, I usually do receive oral. However, it hasn't. The past like three years, I haven't really. And this goes to my second question that I was talking to you about, which is then ending a serious relationship. And then from there, feeling like, you know, not really. When did you meet your guy?
Starting point is 00:30:10 How old were you when you met your guy that cheated on you? I was 19. And you dated him for three years. And you thought everything was great. How long was everything great for? You know, the things were all great. But that you thought he was faithful before you found out that he was cheating on you. Well, the thing is that I don't think I ever think I don't think any guy's faithful.
Starting point is 00:30:35 So I was always just like, obviously I'm just waiting for it, you know? Right. Like, I don't feel like I've ever really met a guy that was faithful. So I don't think there was any point in the relationship that I felt secure that he wasn't cheating. Uh-huh. And then when did you eventually find out that for sure that he was? Well, it was a lot of like, you know, bullshit, actually. There's like a lot of things that I never thought.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Tommy's saying right now he's whispering to me that she needs to get fucked. I'm sorry, Mary, you need to get fucked hard. I'm listening to you and I get it and I know I used to date a lot of exotic dancers, strippers, who were all men haters at the end. And they have bad father-relations to- They had everything. I'm like you, Mary. I totally get all of the shit. And at the end of the day, and I'm a really, really, really nice guy.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I'm like a- No, you were a scumbag player and you were a cheater. So she, you, Mary, you would have dated Tommy and you wouldn't have trusted him, but you would have had good sex. And you would have been like, you know what? And you would have suspected that he was cheating and you would have been right and he would have, you would have broken up with him. And then you would have came over and said, you know what, I know we're broken up, but let's have sex one more time. Yeah, maybe. But whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:45 That's not helping her problem. No, see, I'm totally not that person too. Like, I'm completely fine being alone and not. No. You're not. Why do you say she's done? Tommy Tommy thinks that you're not completely fine alone.
Starting point is 00:31:59 You're not fine alone. You never get laid. You hate men. You have trust issues. You're 25. And you're only 25. You should be out there. You should be out there.
Starting point is 00:32:08 And listen, no one's saying that you have to be. Yeah. No one's saying you have to go out and be like, you know, the little, you know, bouncy girl who bows down to every guy because she wants to go out to dinner and whatever. I mean, but you're 25 years old. Go out. Have fucking fun. Right, but there's a difference between being aggressive.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I do have fun, however, that I have fun. I have a lot of girlfriends that I enjoy hanging out with. And, you know, I work. I do different things that I enjoy. I just don't feel that relationships and dealing with that bullshit is enjoyable. It's not. Like, I don't find relationships to be, like, obviously they're enjoyable in the moment. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:32:51 I am not telling you to go out and get a relationship. I'm telling you to go out and get laid. So what's the point of having some mediocre fuck either? Like, if I'm going to fuck someone, then I want to enjoy it as opposed to like some drunk lay or something, you know? Tommy, you really think she just needs to get laid and that solves her problems. My opinion. And I'm entitled to it. Yeah, you're totally.
Starting point is 00:33:15 That's why you're my co-host. You're like. She doesn't have to agree with it. Mary, you do not have to agree with it. No, but we were getting. I just want to know how you found out your boyfriend was cheating on you. Oh, because he's an idiot And he printed out the conversation
Starting point is 00:33:30 To jerk off to later And then I had printed out some stuff for work And it was in all of my stuff for work Put something in your papers and you saw it on work And then did you guys break up Or did you stay with him for a while and turn into a nut job Because I've had guys cheat on me And then I stay with them and then I turn into like a psychopath
Starting point is 00:33:47 Like did you break up immediately? No, we didn't break up immediately because it was like two days before our anniversary. So I tried to salvage the situation. And it lasted a couple more months, but literally those last months, before that I was a cycle path because I sensed it. Right, that's the worst. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:11 I always say that. I checked out more after. Surprisingly, it was like after that I stopped giving a fuck. And I still loved him and wanted to be with him, but I checked out. and then I just stopped caring because I'm like, I couldn't get past. And it was not like that was the first thing either. I couldn't get past it.
Starting point is 00:34:28 And I'm like, if I'm checked out, then, and also obviously it was killing me. But I felt like it was killing me left after I actually found out because at least I had the satisfaction of knowing that I'm not crazy. At least I was right. Right. And most of the time, that's what it is. When women have a really strong intuition,
Starting point is 00:34:44 just the way that it is. Women are very in touch with their feelings. And, you know, I have a lot of guy friends and they'll tell me like, oh, my girl, we've talked about this before, that guys will always sort of act like the girl is crazy. But most of the time when a girl's acting crazy, it's because she's picking up on shit that the guy's doing.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I never hear my nice guy friends that don't cheat say that their girl is crazy and suspicious and stuff. The only time guys are with girls that are suspicious is the cheating one. You know, so what comes first? It's your only defense is a guy. Yeah, exactly. But what comes first is that there's behavior that is, and if you're with a girl that has half a brain,
Starting point is 00:35:16 she's going to put stuff together. Our brains are like computer chips. If you put something in it one day, right? It's like you can't help it, especially if you're been traumatized. It really is half a brain. Like that was least of the things that I had found. I mean, I found panties before, like L types of stuff. What do you mean panties?
Starting point is 00:35:36 Like panties that girls left on the side or he was getting like panties in the mail, like weird shit panties or like normal shit panties? Be panties. Literally the filthiest panties on earth. Like someone pupped into a pair of, underwear and sent him on the head. Oh my God, wait. Who is this?
Starting point is 00:35:54 I want to have him on the, I want to have him on the show. He's into dirty panty, like dirty old panties. No, actually, it wasn't something that I was aware that he was into. And I thought I knew everything because I knew stuff way worse than that. I think it was simply just a souvenir for an addict. Like, I don't think it was actually a fetter. A trophy. It was just a souvenir.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Oh, you think he's a sax addict? Oh, yeah. I don't think I know. Oh, you know. Right. I know some of that. I know people like that. And it exists. I don't know why people don't understand that it exists. It definitely does. I've gone to meetings and stuff and I've heard the guys talking. It's fascinating because I know a lot of guys that have the same issue and it is an issue and it does exist. And when you're with a guy like that, there's always undercurrent and stuff. They have so many different lives going on. It's so hard not to pick up on it. And I have to just say, like you've been traumatized, right? You have this really bad relationship with your father. And when you have that kind of thing, it's like post-traumatic stress disorder. you become you don't have half a brain you have like 10 brains inside of you you become so hyper fixated on little things that you pick up on stuff do you know what I mean and unfortunately the way we're wired when we're fucked up like that is to attract those kind of people that are going to
Starting point is 00:37:07 you know push those buttons you know what I mean so it's like this six sort of thing that happens between you and the guy I mean it's not a mystery why you attracted that guy and why you you know you're so suspicious and you pick a guy that's going to do things that are going to tell and you're hyper aware. I mean, the only guy that you're going to be happy with one day ever to trust is somebody that just has is so like to the core clean cut. You know what I mean? Because you're going to see through everything. You can't help it because you're like hyper focused on it because of, you know, what you've been through. So it's really difficult. But we're always going to be a track. When you're wired that way, you're always going to be much more attracted and turned on and, you know, have a pull towards guys that are going to push that dysfunction in you. You know what I mean? Absolutely. So it's like they say, you know, you... Oh, the reason that obviously I don't... Because also the type of guys that are going to work is like,
Starting point is 00:38:00 I need a nerd that's not fuckable to anyone. Like, if I don't want to fuck him, no one else will want to fuck him. I know, no, no, no. No. Stop, Mary. I'm going to teach you something because you're only 25. What you need to do is you just need to go to some fucking therapy and you need to clean your act up and you need to build yourself
Starting point is 00:38:16 and your trust within yourself. Because what happens, I've seen women that do that. They can't handle the guys Because they're only attracted to the guys that cheat on them And the hot guys that they want to fuck And they're really into So then they go for a guy that's like totally beneath them That makes them feel secure because they're like useless
Starting point is 00:38:32 Or they have no friends Or they can't leave the house or they're ugly or they won't And so now you have someone like that's probably not your equal And that you would never like If you didn't weren't insecure No and you to and eventually you'll get bored of that So what that's not the solution either And actually actually
Starting point is 00:38:49 Because I initially dated people who were low. Right, because they made you feel secure. And then you went to the guy that you were really attracted and he made you feel insecure and that's just a sign to you that you're fucked up and you need to clean your act up and the more you
Starting point is 00:39:03 get your act up clean, the more you'll rewire yourself and be attracted to a different kind of guy. You don't want that guy beneath I have a girlfriend that do that. They go, you know, they can only feel secure with a guy who's like, you know, has no friends or can't leave the house or it's too ugly to ever cheat. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:19 So then he doesn't. Like, you know, but you don't want that either because that's probably not really right for you. I mean, I've changed my life and I've like, everything else in my life is like flourishing. But as far as like the relationship stuff, like I just don't want to like ever be in that again. I don't want to bother like even fucking anyone. Like I just feel like it's like. It's okay to go sober. You know, you have to look at it like you're going like kind of sober on guys to try and figure
Starting point is 00:39:45 yourself out for a little while and that's okay. And that's something good to do. I've been an addict. I quit drinking 10 years ago. You know, after I took alcohol out of my life, I found that other things came up. You know, the more I cleaned up my act in a lot of other areas, the more other stuff comes up. And that's just, that's a natural process.
Starting point is 00:40:03 And it's the reason why people stay addicts their whole lives because they don't really want to feel the worst stuff that comes up when you sort of take those addictions out, right? Most of the time you become like weaker and more crazy before you get better. That's what addicts are holding down. You know what I mean? Is all that fucking nonsense that you have. in your head right now, you know, that you're sort of conscious and aware of that you were like subconsciously aware of and acting out when you were younger.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Now you don't act out as much, but you have all this shit in your head and you're really nutty and you still have your issues and you need to like, you need to work on that. So, you know, I think it's good not to even bother with relationships right now and maybe like take a break, go sober on it until you figure yourself out a little bit more. I don't think that's a bad thing. Absolutely. And that's how I feel is what's working for me. And I mean, obviously it seems like, you know, Tommy would say that I need to be fucked.
Starting point is 00:40:55 That's the last thing that I need of all my problems. It's actually like not what I need. No, I don't think so either. Personally, I understand you completely, Mary. I am you. I understand. You don't like my advice. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:41:09 That's why you're not the host. That's why you're the co-host. There you go. Okay. So, see, look, I'm being rude to my submissive right now. I totally understand you, Mary, I'm you, like, 20 years from now. I'm like, I think, you know, for me, but you're better than me because when I was 25, I was 10 years away from even figuring any of this shit out.
Starting point is 00:41:29 The fact that you're 25 and you're figuring this out and you're so clear-headed and you're like on the same page as me and I'm like almost 45, like, makes you so ahead of the game that you're going to be okay. I wouldn't like worry about hating guys like you have some issues. Are you in therapy? I'm sure you are. No, I'm not in therapy. Why are you not in therapy?
Starting point is 00:41:50 I mean, I hate to pimp that out to everybody, but like, why isn't everyone in therapy? It works. It works. I'm in therapy. It works. Yeah, Tommy was saying today he was going to cut his so cost by getting out of therapy. I'm like, you just had a baby. You just got married. You used to be like the single player.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Like, you need therapy more than, he's like, I have a motorcycle. He was sort of like, should he give up his motorcycle or therapy? He's going to give up therapy. I'm like, you need the therapy over your motorcycle. The motorcycle looks good. Yeah, this is why men need women because men are just so dumb. Like that's how what he was thinking. And his whole wife is like, I mean, please, you need therapy.
Starting point is 00:42:20 But why are you not in therapy? I mean, I probably should be. It says I haven't been in a long time. Honestly, after I found out that he was cheating, I just like, well, I'm not crazy. The end. No, but you have, but no, you have, but that's the whole thing. You can't do that either. You have to look at yourself, okay?
Starting point is 00:42:40 Like attracts like. I'm sorry, I believe that more than anything. I have always, I have a whole book I wrote. that I'm self-publishing now, and it's all about my crazy relationships. I've had every, I have like 30 chapters, and some of those chapters have 10 guys in them, okay, I've been around the block. I've had every kind of relationship except a normal one. That's what I always talk about.
Starting point is 00:42:58 So I totally understand your way, and I had issues with my dad, and, you know, and I still have issues when it comes to relationship. It's very claustrophobic to me to think about it, and I don't trust guys, and I have all this kind of stuff. But when you sit there and you turn around, and I have girlfriends that are like me, but they're like you, they think it's the guy's fault. So when they find out the guy's cheating, they just, like, it confirms everything that they think. But that's your problem. You pick people that will confirm whatever story was told to you when you're younger.
Starting point is 00:43:23 So it is your problem. Do you understand? There's guys out there that could come into your life and tell you a different story. But that's not the story that you're living by. You're living by this story. And you're just keep attracting to it. And you, it's all you. It's not him.
Starting point is 00:43:35 He has his own story. He's got his fucking addict story. Do you know what I mean? You have your story that you have to work on. And you work through it in these kind of crazy relationships. I feel like every one of my. even though they were nuts. Like, you know, each one I learned something and I grow and I changed, but it's still
Starting point is 00:43:51 difficult. And, you know, all your shit's going to come in relationships. You could be great in every area of your life. But that's where you're the most vulnerable. So that's where everyone's the most crazy and fucked up. I mean, that's just the way everybody is, you know, because that's where you're not in control. You're not in control. And you have to trust.
Starting point is 00:44:07 And, you know, and I have those issues still. And I'm in therapy. And psychoanalysis is great. That's like one kind of therapy. It's kind of expensive, but it's really good. because it goes to that like that shit that's guiding you right now. You're very defensive to guys. You're closed off.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Oh, yeah. You know, and you want to go a little sober on guys, but you don't want to shut them out. You know, you want to have a relationship one day, right? So you have to, you know, make sure in their time that you're shutting people out that you're doing something to help yourself. And that should be working on yourself. If you don't want to go to therapy, read some books or go to some meetings. They have like love addict meetings, sex addict meetings. Like you could learn a little bit about your nuttiness and see.
Starting point is 00:44:44 other people, you know, or you need something. You should be doing something during this time. Besides getting banged in the ass like Tommy was saying. Even though that's more interesting, we all know. But yeah, I'm giving you the point of advice. You never know. That might be the answer. If she got a really good booty call. I've had tons of those kind of relationships.
Starting point is 00:45:05 At the end of the day, what is it? You eventually want to... On the relationship, Doc. You go out to get a booty call and then you find out that he's fucking someone else, you know. Right. Right, right. Yeah, see, Tommy, this is like the girl world.
Starting point is 00:45:17 No, this is the man-hater show. It's not a man-hater show because I don't hate men. I don't. She doesn't trust men. She doesn't, she doesn't hate them. She likes men. She keeps dating them. No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:45:29 I hate them. Oh, she's still young. She doesn't really, you don't really hate them. No, I do. I always have. I really do. That's like why my initial reaction to them was to have the next wave. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:43 So you hate men? that that's a process are you i mean unless you're going to turn gay and date women i've been trying to i've been trying to okay this is more interesting it's what do you mean it's not working girls are irritating you too i love lesbian no well you know what i just i mean i never really like i mean i'm like i'm totally open to dating a woman nice i just women seem fucking insane too and i'm like damn i just like myself like i just want to be in a relationship with me you know like i feel like everyone else is crazy in that sense. Yeah, that's your problem right there.
Starting point is 00:46:17 You're fucking crazy too. Mary. Okay. Mary, you have issues, Mary. I'm going to tell you, stay to your face. I don't know if you're done of your friends. If your friends listen to this bullshit and they tell you that you're normal, you're not normal.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Something's wrong with you. You have some issues. You're not that great, but you're probably fantastic in your own ways, but you deserve a fantastic guy or girl, if that's your thing. Do you get in on what girl? Are you sexually attracted to women? I haven't been really sexually attracted to anyone in a long time Yeah, see, and something, you're so like you're obviously depressed or like you're, when you're not into you, when you're not horny and you're 25, you're something's wrong with you.
Starting point is 00:46:55 You're supposed to be horny. You're an animal like to normal. Are you on the pill? Because sometimes that takes away your horniness. So you're not even on the pill. You're supposed to be horny. You're supposed to want to fill around people. You're supposed to have like chemistry.
Starting point is 00:47:06 You're supposed to be, do you jerk off? I do. Okay. you're getting yourself off. I mean, not daily. But you need, like, the interaction and the physical contact with another person. It's, you have issues when it comes to sex. You have issues when it comes to men.
Starting point is 00:47:21 You have issues when it comes to women. You have issues. No, but I get along with women the best. I love women. I'm, like, totally the supporter of women, you know, being friends with each other and not freaking hating each other. Right, totally. Right. But you need to, that's great.
Starting point is 00:47:40 That's great. We don't care about what you're great at. You need to focus on what you suck at, okay? And you suck at liking guys. You suck at getting yourself into sex. You're missing out. Sex is like the greatest thing that was ever invented. And you are going to die one day.
Starting point is 00:47:54 And I used to have a rule. I never went one month without getting laid. And I would have long-term booty call people who like, because I was very monogamous. I'm very monogamous by nature. I like to fuck one guy. And I would stay with that guy. But I would always make sure that I did that because you need to stay connected to your
Starting point is 00:48:09 pussy, your brain and your pussy. They need to be connected. And when you stop, yes. When you disconnect that, you get so lost, you might not be able to have orgasms with guys. Like you're fucking yourself up. Like you, Tommy is kind of right. You do kind of need to get laid. I don't have the tables and third.
Starting point is 00:48:23 You do need to stay involved a little bit with the bottom part of your body. You're like separating. You know what I mean? You've disconnected. And you really shouldn't. It's not, it's not healthy. I guess. I mean, I'm a very psychologically sexual person.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Oh, stop. Mary. Psychologically, you're beating guys up. Psychologically, you're getting laid. But you're really not in real life. You're in fantasy land. You're doing all these great things. But in real life, you're not.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Your interactions with actual people and intimacy is with two people, not you and your thoughts, is not. It's not working for you. Well. Jami, hold on. Let's see what she says to that. Mary, are you still there? I'm here. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:49:09 But I really think you need. I think you're like, you know. know, you're just, you're, you're closed off in the pussy department, in the love department. Yeah. And your head is fine, you know. But it's the bottom half of your body. You need to, like, you need to connect everything. You're disconnected.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Read some books. I don't know. Keep engaging with people. My advice to you is like, try to find someone that you need sacks. You need to work on yourself. You need therapy. And plug the pussy into the brain. Yeah, you need the, well, yeah, you need.
Starting point is 00:49:42 to make sure that you could figure out and also figure out what you like. Do you like men? Do you like women and then, you know, try and engage a little bit. And if you hate men, maybe you should try to figure out why. This is going to be a good friend. I would just like an honest person.
Starting point is 00:49:56 I don't really care what they are. If I can find a decent honest person, then I would be good. Okay, well, you know, there are decent. I have a lot of guy friends and a lot of them lie and they cheat and they do all that shit. And some of them are faithful. They have, that guy exists.
Starting point is 00:50:10 They do, Mary. I swear to you, I've met them. They're out there. A lot of times they're in relationships. Ask guys their history. But no, that means. But you've got to get them when they get out of a relationship. They're called lifers.
Starting point is 00:50:21 If you meet a lifer, like a guy that just got broken up with by a girl, the five years or seven years, and some of them are really hot, okay? That's the guy you got to get because that guy likes women. Yeah, so you got to get the history of guys. But you might, you know, you think, you know, you're young. So you have a lot of time to, if you want to close your,
Starting point is 00:50:41 off to sex for the next five years and not get late and not care about it and not think that that's like that's a waste of your life that's not a good idea just so you know you're going to die one day mary like you're literally going to be on your deathbed and you're going to fucking die and you're going to think back to like do you really think when you're on your death bed you might regret like those three years that you didn't have sex because like the sex is over you know what i mean like this is the time this is the time well for it that um there is honest guys out there and you know, I'll be open to finding them. At least I'll believe that they exist.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Right. Believe that they exist. But know that the next guy that you are so physically attracted to that you can't handle it and that you see from across the room that stands out to you. Know that that's the worst guy in the room for you. Don't trust your pussy. You're wired improperly. Sorry to say. Yes, exactly. Yeah. So any guy you're going to be really horny for is going to be an asshole. So to those nice guys, you probably won't even like them anyway. this is terrible advice.
Starting point is 00:51:44 I'm like Debbie Downer. Yeah, you are Debbie Downer. Yeah, I have like no advice. I say trust your box. Yeah, you still have to go there. You have to work on that story. And if wherever, but you know,
Starting point is 00:51:54 try to reconnect and try to get like horny again. We do follow up call. So please keep us posted. If you get like a new boyfriend or if you get laid. Yeah, Tommy. Even if you get late and it's like amazing and you realize Tommy is right. Like we have people that call back in later, even if it's like three weeks later to hear.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Mary, I would love a follow-up call, and you tell me I'm right. What? I'll do it, but I don't know about three weeks. Oh, you mean sex? Yes. We'll see. You never know who you'll meet. You'll never know who you meet every day.
Starting point is 00:52:27 You leave your house. You never know who you're going to meet. Yeah, exactly. You never know when you go to the wrong airport by accident. Yeah. That you're going to bump into the man of your dreams. I don't know. But you have to keep your mind open.
Starting point is 00:52:41 You know, you can't be so closed off excuse me that you actually run into that person and because you you're so closed off you don't get to meet them so you got to keep your mind and your legs open and hope
Starting point is 00:52:55 it happens right but she also has right and you have to know that your personality the aggressiveness that's all what turns guys off and they think you're a con it's probably your closed offness and you're sort of you hate men right and you don't trust them you think that just like you smell
Starting point is 00:53:11 a guy cheating on you a mile away you think that guys don't pick up on that too so that's what a guy is picking up on it it's not your aggressive personality and it's not that you're not like nice like these other girls it's that you secretly hate men and you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:53:27 so they know that so that you got to work on that like that's not like that they're picking up on it that was awesome advice thank you okay Mary so go get yourself some fucking therapy please And we'll check back with you in a few weeks, all right?
Starting point is 00:53:44 All right. Thank you guys. Bye, Mary. Thanks for calling in. Bye. Thank you. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Okay. Fuck her. She was a... Man hating bitch. She's young. I hate to say that because young people hate to be called young, especially when they're in their... But, I mean, young is not a bad thing. No, but you know when you're young, you always want to be older.
Starting point is 00:54:08 You want to be older, and then you're older, and then you're older and you want to be younger again. Yeah. Yeah. I don't say it as a bad thing. I say it as like, she has so much time. And that's like normal to be messed up when you're younger, especially if you had a history like her. But why do you say fuck her?
Starting point is 00:54:18 You didn't like her because she was like not a man hater. She was a man hater. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying, oh, because she wasn't, whatever, I made a little bit of an abrasive comment. I say that because she's so closed off. You know what I mean? And she just says, I'm a man hater.
Starting point is 00:54:34 And she admits it. Yeah. Okay. So, you know what? She's going to go on like that. And she's just going to keep hating men and keep hating. and keep hating men. Look at how she started off at 15, like, abusing men and getting off on it.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Somebody touched her, and she didn't appreciate it. Totally, totally. But that's what she has to work on. Yeah, but she needs to. And when I, listen, I said it to very rough way she needs to get fucked. She actually really does. No, you're right. She needs to get a little ass.
Starting point is 00:54:57 No, but she needs to, like, I don't, I think she's very, she's, like I said, she's wired improperly. She's separated. She's not paying attention to that area of her body. Like, she's all closed off. She doesn't know what she's doing. She's being defensive in all the weird ways that she's trying to, to solve this problem with herself
Starting point is 00:55:12 in all the wrong ways. You understand? By not having sex, by hating men. The problem is not these other people, like she thinks. No. Problems about herself. Yeah. Maybe she might meet the right woman, and all that will change. She sounds like she was fucked with women too.
Starting point is 00:55:25 She's just like all over the place. She's, I don't know, what did you say about women? I didn't even understand that. They're just as crazy and you know what I mean? Yeah. And then she thinks she's great, but then she has problems. She's like, you know what it is? It's weird.
Starting point is 00:55:38 All these people that call in, I seem like, They always seem so like their problems are one thing. Then they call in. And it seems like they don't even really know what their problems are. No, I think she's just all jacked up on the wrong idea. She hates men. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:51 And she wonders why they hate her. I think she's a cunt. She got fucked over by one guy. Her father. Is that what you're talking about? Oh, that's cold. Yeah. No, she got fucked over by one guy.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Oh, the sexaholic. But then she got screwed over by a guy. She was probably head over heels in love with. No, but when you're that messed up, I'm going to tell you, when you hate men and you believe that no men trust you, you will attract exactly the type of man that will only tell you exactly what you think. That's the law of the universe. We're not Oprah, but Oprah would agree. That's just the way that it goes. Whatever you're thinking in your little brain, if you're a man-hater, you're going to get that kind of guy that's
Starting point is 00:56:28 going to totally confirm your suspicions. It's just unfortunately the way it works. So that's why she got that guy. I hate when these women friends of mine, because I've got guys like that and I know that it's me. It's not them. It's my own thing. It's my own issue. Why are you looking at me funny? You're not crazy. No, I have my things and I work on it. But I have a lot of friends that have the same things and they don't admit it. They think
Starting point is 00:56:52 it's, oh, I just keep, these people are just assholes. Let's take a bet. The next time we talk to her, if we talk to her again, what do you think? Prediction. Nothing like long. Okay, how long? Give me, like, how long? In six months. In six months?
Starting point is 00:57:08 she maybe has fucked that guy that had the dirty panties and you know there's been drama there yeah the ex yeah the ex so you're predicting that she goes back to the ex i'm predicting that she might have a rendezvous with him because she needs to get laid and that doesn't go anywhere um i predict that she's not going to meet a guy for like 15 years oh okay if she doesn't get therapy or work on these kind of compulsions don't go away on their own trust me trust me trust me All right. It's not a good scene if you don't do the work. So she'll just keep having all these kind of crazy things. I think she's very far off from having a relationship. She doesn't even like to get laid.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Sex is a part of a relationship, but that's like one of the good parts of the relationship. That's like God's healthy drug to human beings. Yeah, that's one thing. I never want to, I never put that on it. Like I was always into, like it's not a healthy thing. I had two years of my life once before I quit drinking. I went a year without sex for a reason. Like I specifically was like,
Starting point is 00:58:08 because I was getting drunk and I was just sleeping with people and I was like I need to control my I didn't realize I need to quit drinking not quit having sex. Drinking's never the problem. No, not at all. Take it for me.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Everything else. Drinking's never the problem. Yeah, everything else is the problem. I don't understand why I'm putting on so much weight. No, the funny thing is there was this guy we had a friend of ours, my friend's boyfriend's friend and he was so ugly. You just like he had a Frankenstein face.
Starting point is 00:58:31 No, like a Frankenstein Down syndrome face. Like Frankenstein with like Down syndrome faces. Okay. And he was like He was my go-to guy Like somehow No, I swear to God Wait, you were fucking the ugly guy?
Starting point is 00:58:47 Yeah, no, only in blackouts. No, but this was so crazy. And so I would sleep with him in a black This is why I quit. And then I'd call him up. He was my friend. He was friend. You know, I knew him really well.
Starting point is 00:58:58 So I'd sleep with him every night when I was drunk Because I never slept with strangers. I would like sleep with guy friends. And I would sleep. And then I would call him up the next day. And I would be like, I can't believe. Like I would complain to him and like I can't believe I had sex with you.
Starting point is 00:59:10 It's so terrible. And then he'd talk me out of it and be like, don't worry about it. Like I was like, it was kind of like an insult. Like wouldn't you be insulted if the girl called you up that fuck to you the name before? And she was so guilty. I was like, I want to kill myself. Like I want to get hit by a cab. Like I'd feel so terrible about myself with him.
Starting point is 00:59:26 And I would call him up and vent this to him. And he'd be like, don't worry about it. And then the next night I'd sleep with him again. Oh, I'd wait for you to come back. That's when I would get my revenge. Yeah. And then I'd fuck him again. And then...
Starting point is 00:59:37 How are you walking today? And then I... Betty Blackout. No, he was really into trains. You know, there's like a... There's people that are into trains. Huge. My accountants are into trains.
Starting point is 00:59:46 No, but just watching trains on the computer. Just drive by. Hong Kong. Like, and they just drive by. It's like some weirdo... I think it's like a weirdo brain thing. What about people who watch fish? No, these are trains.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I know I get it, but like you sit and watch a fish go by in a fish tank. You're maybe you're stoned. This guy was watching trains on his computer. Like, it's a weird thing. It's like an autistic thing or like an idiot savant. He was a brilliant genius. And he was a musician and some people liked him. I found him so physically repulsive and ugly, but for some reason.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Not when the blues was flown, baby. I was literally in blackouts. Then I'd wake up and he'd be literally in my bed like cuddling with me. And I'd be like hard. Not again. Get your own pillow. Like get the fuck out of my apartment. It was so just so I quit sex because I couldn't control myself.
Starting point is 01:00:34 But I was able. I couldn't control the alcohol. so I would control the sex and I was able to stop having sex for a whole year before I quit. And then I quit drinking and then I was allowed to have sex.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Then I could have sex again because I could like, you know, I wasn't sleeping with the ugly guys anymore. Well, that's good. Yeah, he never got late again by me. He probably never got late again, period. No, he's married to actually
Starting point is 01:00:55 a really cute girl and stuff. I just found him so. Is she a drunk? His Frankenstein face is gross. Is she a drinker? I don't know. But anyway. Hopefully we'll hear back from Mary
Starting point is 01:01:04 and she'll be doing better but she won't we'll probably never hear back from her and that's okay because it was an interesting call it was yeah yeah i like when we have girls on they are nice every once in a while i think you found her boring be honest um i no i didn't find her boring i think i had different expectations for her yeah because when i when i read the email when you read the email to me because i don't do anything yeah um i thought this was a professional dominatrix and she was gonna tell a little bit more about that world and then how she got out of it, you know.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Then I find out that she's just a man-hater. Yeah, and she didn't even have sex. That whole, I'm so, 50 Shades of Grey. Like, why do people think that that was such a horny book? Like, what is, there's no sex going on. I don't read. In these real people's lives, I don't read that book another,
Starting point is 01:01:55 but in these people's lives, they're not even having sex. So, yeah, I like the call. It was interesting because I understand women like that. Let's see what happens to her. Okay. So, you know, next call, I think we're going to have another girl calling. A double bubble. I had someone email me and this girl turned to prostitution, but not willing.
Starting point is 01:02:15 No, not willingly. Oh, no. My blackout drunk banging the downs. Oh, that's not nice. She, no, she was like kidnapped and drug. Oh, I feel horrible for even saying that. No, we don't even know if it's a true story. But she was supposedly drugged and kidnapped and then forced into prostitution.
Starting point is 01:02:33 And I think we're going to have our own show. I'm excited to talk to her. It should be very interesting. I don't know. We don't know if the story is true. We'll see where it goes. We don't know. Exactly right. Until next time next week.
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