Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 015 - Tuna Can't Get a Date

Episode Date: March 23, 2014

Tuna is 26 and he's never been in a relationship and he's worried that that will be a deal breaker for the right girl. He was rejected a lot when he was younger and basically gave up on trying to ...get girls. He hasn't tried to pick up a woman in over 5 years and he calls in looking for advice on how to get back in the game.    **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:00 Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. Craigslist is definitely a gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it. The temptation is just too much.
Starting point is 00:01:18 With real problem. Does your friend know that you're banging her? No, he has no idea. And anything goes. Motto of the show, let your reflect lie. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to re-hide your whips and change. Here are your hosts, Kathy Kay and Tommy. Okay, hey, welcome to Strictly Anonymous Podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:40 This is Kathy, and Tommy is going to take over with our long-ass intro. It's not that long. Hey, welcome to Strictly Anonymous podcast. We love your feedback, as we say at the beginning of the show now. And if you want to be on the show, email us some of your questions, share some stories, anything at all. We can be reached at Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com.
Starting point is 00:02:08 And also you can follow us on Twitter and Facebook. At strictly anonymous. Is it? At strict anonymous. At strict anonymous. Also, we've been saying it like on the last few calls. When you subscribe to our podcast, there is a section for reviews. And take the two seconds and write an awesome review.
Starting point is 00:02:32 more reviews, shows more support. We get bumped up on, you know, iTunes. We really, really appreciate it. And we hope you appreciate the show. I also like, you know, we have people that write in and give us critiques. Like the other day I got a call, I got an email from a guy who listens to the podcast with his wife in a car, which I think is really cute. And I love their relationship that they do that. And they are really irritated by our volume issues.
Starting point is 00:02:59 So this podcast is for them. I want the guy who emailed me about that to let me know if this podcast our volume is better. We tried to correct it. We did something different and we're hoping that our volume will be better because that's really irritating. They listen in a car. Because I listen to the podcast all the time. I listen on my headset on my iPhone and I listen on my computer, but I plug it into my Bose speakers. And it sounds fine to me, but I don't, maybe I just listen to it too much to know.
Starting point is 00:03:25 If somebody's listening to in their car and they say that the volume is messed up, it must be. So we're trying to fix that. I turned my volume really down low. Yeah, we've tried some new things now. Right us. You know who you are. But I appreciate that because just so everyone knows, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Like I would... Robert Kelly helped me to start this podcast. He told me I should do my own podcast. He told me what to buy. He gave me one tutorial for like 20 minutes. And then he dumped me. And he never helped me after that with the technical stuff. I had to learn how to do everything on my own.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Because he's afraid. No, he's not afraid of anything. thing. He's just, that's how everybody is. He's got his own life. He just had a baby. He just bought a house. He doesn't have time to really help me. But it's cool because I'm really smart and I'm very resourceful. I figured it. Tell me you're staring at my tits. I just caught that. What? The left one. No? Okay. Um, so I'm figured it all out. But obviously, you know, since I'm figuring out of my own, how the fuck do I know if the volume is good? And Tommy, just so you know, your job is to tell me not to curse. I've cursed twice. I've cursed twice. I've cursed twice. Three times. Stop doing it. Right. You're supposed to jump in and say, I tell you when you're boring. Tell me when I'm tacky and cursing too much. Okay. Okay. You're tacky and cursing too much. Thank you. Just try and file that and remember. Tommy is so useless. Just so you know, I do everything on the podcast and Tommy just shows up and talks. But he's so great as my co-host. So that's all right. She can't get rid of me. Well, you can get rid of me. I can get rid of you. But you're like the perfect partner. I'm actually more mellow now, I would say. Yeah. And you're good mellow because I'm not really mellow. Like I think we're a good pair.
Starting point is 00:04:58 for this so I can't get anyone else even though you used to really irritate me with your communication problems with the texting but now we figured it out figured it out that's the whole thing with relationship for the people that are listening in the car with their wives and stuff with relationship problems whether even if it's not real relationship like me and you aren't dating but we're friends and and and that's a relationship and sometimes it's all about communication like I would text tommy all the time and he would never text me back and it was so irritating to me because I needed an answer and then one day he said to me Kathy if you don't hear back from me everything's fine so I was like okay great and ever since then I text them and we have a podcast he doesn't text me back
Starting point is 00:05:32 and I know that that's his way of saying okay it's fine yeah and all but you have but your problem was that you didn't communicate that to me until I went mental like 18 times that's all I needed to know but you figured it out no because you told me I would have never figured it out all right so we're here now the whole point is communication men out there to see how it is girls are easy if you just communicate and his communication was I'm not going to communicate with you unless there's a problem and that's fucking great. Yeah. That's a curse.
Starting point is 00:06:01 You're supposed to say something. That was a test. You didn't give me a chance. When you listen back, you didn't even stop talking. I watched your face. I could tell that it didn't even register. It did. It took some time to get to this other side.
Starting point is 00:06:12 You don't even know how to stick up for yourself because you know what you should say? You should say, Kathy, you curse so much like when we're regularly talking like why should, it's hard for me to remember. That's what I would say if I was you, stick up for yourself. So let's make it interesting. Every time you curse you give me $10. $10? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:28 No, that's a lot. Like a dollar. How about a dollar? You'll make $10. Fuck am I going to do it with a dollar? I don't know. By the end of the show, I have like $200. Tip someone.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Okay, so anyway, let's get to the caller. Okay. People don't know about this caller. You know about this caller. Yes, I do. His name is because what you people don't understand is, me and Tommy started this podcast months ago, and we started taping people.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And so we're way ahead of schedule. We have so many in the bag and I just sort of air them. We don't air them each week. And then, you know, so we have. some already recorded that we haven't aired. And we have two from a guy named Tuna. Tuna called in. He had two questions and problems.
Starting point is 00:07:04 One was that he was 26 years old and he had never had a long-term relationship. And his question was like, would a girl find that to be a turnoff? He really wants a girlfriend. We had a whole call with him. And it was interesting because it turned out. And I really wanted to go in the whole in this way. It turned out that he had only had sex with one woman in his whole life. And it was when he was 19.
Starting point is 00:07:24 And that was it. And he seriously hadn't gotten fucked laid, blow. anything. Nothing. Nothing. Since he was 19 and he was 26 and I was like, why isn't he calling up about that? You know, his problem was he just wants a girlfriend and he's afraid. And, you know, I asked him if it was with a hooker and he said no. And he found us on, you know, Craig's list. So I was like, what were you doing on there? And it turns out that he has a foot fetish too. We've done a separate podcast with him about a foot fetish. And that was interesting. We'll be airing
Starting point is 00:07:54 that soon. But what happened was that Tommy, I just felt Tommy, but I'll fill you in is that. This guy, Tuna. Let's just say, he came clean. Yes. On his first call. So his first call, we asked him a lot of questions. He said, well, the first time I ever got laid when my friend hooked me up, our, our question
Starting point is 00:08:14 was, you know, basically, you know, he came clean on all his misleading statements. They weren't really misleading. He just, there was a couple of things he didn't really say. And so what's cute about him and why I like Tuna Tuna Tuna Tuna is a good guy. But I felt like there was something else going on. Oh, there was something else going on. And he always emails me. He became a fan of the show, and he loves us.
Starting point is 00:08:38 And he wanted, because I haven't aired his episode yet, he wanted an MP3 of it just to listen. And so I sent it to him. And he loved it. And then he sent me a confession email afterwards. And it goes like this. Hey, thanks for sending me the MP3. I have a confession to make.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Because normally, I have to explain a little bit more. when we're on the call, you hear me typically ask people what they are from a one to 10, because how else am I going to gauge it? If you're telling me you can't get girls, but you're like a 10, like, what's your problem? What's your problem? Yeah. So he called himself a 7, and he was going after models, and he was a 7, right? And that's how we analyze a show.
Starting point is 00:09:11 But what he confesses to me in this email is that, you know, I have a confession to me. I'm overweight, and I'm a 5. When I first called in, you asked me about my dating problems. I do have a fear of rejection, not because I don't try, but because I get rejected by women when I ask them on a date. And then he admits that he lost his virginity to a prostitute. He said my friend set me up with her because he wanted me to get late and told me that it wasn't cool to be a virgin when I get older. When I had sex with the hooker, I couldn't kiss her because I wanted the girlfriend experience. So that's why it wasn't a pleasant experience.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I didn't say these things before because I didn't want to be judged. Before I called in, I contemplated meeting a hooker for sex, but I decided against it. I listened to your Epsisota. It's great. By the way, Kathy, it's awesome that you like to have your toes suck. Yeah. Um, let me ask you this. Girlfriend Experience.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I think you could hire people for that, right? Yeah, yeah, but I thought you got kissed on the girlfriend experience. He wanted me. I don't think he means, I don't think he's using the technical term for girlfriend experience. Like, because there's a technical term in that whole girl world, right? Oh, yeah. No, and that costs some money. You're kidding.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Oh, no, no, no. You have to charge extra for kissing? Yeah, they don't want to kiss you. I know. I don't like kissing people I don't like. But the girlfriend experience basically is, you're meeting this person, you go out. Did you ever pay something for the girlfriend experience?
Starting point is 00:10:31 No. Right, but you can do that. And they charge them. I pay them to leave. I think that's the way the prostitute would have to work with a woman. Like a woman would always have to have the girlfriend experience most of the time. She couldn't just have like come over and get naked, fuck me thing. She'd want like the compliments.
Starting point is 00:10:46 A little more of a jiggle. Yeah, just to get turned on. Because like I know as for me, I as a woman, I'm wired like I get turned on when I think a guy is really into me. Like that's the way like guys could play me. I think every woman can be played a different way. Every woman's going to get horny in her pants in a different way. My way is act like you're really fucking into me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Do you know what I mean? Really into me. And then I get into you. And so anyway, so Tuna's calling in today and we're redoing his. We're never going to air that first episode because it was kind of dull and it wasn't really truthful. And I think that he didn't trust us. He didn't know. I give anyone credit for calling in even though they're totally anonymous.
Starting point is 00:11:25 It takes balls to, like, call up total strangers. And call back. And put their shit out there, right? I like tuna because this is a guy that's having an issue. He's a real in his head kind of guy. He emails me all the time. He has different things, and I've grown close with him. And I really want to help him.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Yeah, absolutely. He needs help. He's a nice guy. Obviously, he's not going to go talk to his buddies about it. No, he can't. Can't. Yeah. And that's why he asked for the MP3.
Starting point is 00:11:51 He said, it's my only hope I want to boost my confidence again and talk to you guys. So we're redoing the call with him being completely clean. I get how, because he's like, you said you didn't like liars. And after that, he emailed me like nutty emails after he's all paranoid that I hate him now.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Because he says, you know, I've talked about how much I can't stand liars. But that's a different kind of lie. Him like calling in and just a, not telling certain parts of his story because he doesn't want to be judged. That's not lying. That's like protecting yourself.
Starting point is 00:12:17 I think he was trying to build comfort and trust with us. You know what I mean? He wasn't trying anything He was just protecting himself He's not that smart He wasn't thought out that way He didn't know us from a hole in the wall I'm sorry you were wronging it
Starting point is 00:12:32 I'm not just trying to say you're wrong You should see Tommy's face He just loved to say I'm wrong Like first of all you look stoned Here we go again No there are so many times I high five you for saying The most brilliant thing
Starting point is 00:12:44 That's the truth I haven't been high fived in a while It's because you see the cup As half empty It's just you're that kind of guy Okay It's true and you look very sad today I'm not.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I'll try a compliment anymore. Okay. I'd appreciate it. I don't like, I mean, you want me to do it on purpose? No. No, don't fake it. Okay. But if I think a compliment in my head, you want me to do?
Starting point is 00:13:04 Just let it go. Let it fly. Okay. Like I'm normally holding back. Anyway, so he's a nice guy and he's very in his head. He's very paranoid that he lied. I'm just like, listen, you didn't lie. I get it, but now he's ready to really come clean.
Starting point is 00:13:18 And that's why I think we do the show. Well, that's why I want to do the show that we do it where everyone's totally in honest. because I feel like people are a lot more honest. Absolutely. The fact is that all the people that are calling in, I think if people read our titles of our show and people didn't listen, they just assume it's some dirty sex show,
Starting point is 00:13:34 but it's like really like these are, this is what regular people are doing. This is what regular people are thinking about. This is what regular people are. These people are regular. I don't think they're weirdos or any different from anybody really listening. I really don't.
Starting point is 00:13:46 But maybe that makes me a weirdo. I don't know. A little weird. Why? Yeah, but not weird because of that. That statement are weird in general. I'm talking about that statement. We pick the titles because they're buzzwords.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I mean, that catches somebody. You don't even know what I'm talking about. I know what you're talking about. The titles, though, are reflective of what the calls are about. Even if you tell someone, oh, we talk to this guy, John, who wants to watch his wife fuck people. Some women especially would be like, oh, my God, what an asshole. But if they really listen, like, John's could be the guy sitting next to you in the cubicle. He could be your boss that you're serving coffee to.
Starting point is 00:14:19 He could be, you know, anybody. Yeah, he could be your brother-in-law. Okay. He could be your dad. Hope not. He could be your dad. Why not you hope not? John's, what's wrong with John?
Starting point is 00:14:28 John is doing something in a relationship that is completely open and completely agreed upon between two consenting adults. Why do you hope not? Because that. Why is he wrong? I'm not not bad about him. That would make the girl my sister. Okay. I'm going to compliment you.
Starting point is 00:14:48 I'm going to compliment you. You are so, you're smarter than me in this episode right now because, yeah, Duh, you're right. Yeah, that was like you put that together really fast. Thank you. Okay, you're smart today. I'm dumb today. I didn't get that, but yeah, right, you pass around Patty would be your sick.
Starting point is 00:15:08 She sure would. You know what I don't want that for you. God knows what your sister does. How do you know? How do you know what your sister, your brother, your mother, your father? You just don't know. You never know. No.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I had a friend. I believe his parents were swingers. He even thought his parents were swingers. So many people's parents are swingers and they just have no idea. Not a, yeah. You're not even interested in swingers? No. No?
Starting point is 00:15:32 It gets so confusing. Swinging? Yeah. I find it interesting. You go over and they probably just spin this whole web to do things. No, there's a really great documentary about it, I told you. And then there was another thing that I watched. I don't know if it was on HBO, but it was another thing about swingers.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And there was a couple on there that were older and their children knew. And they were a very wealthy couple and they would have parties at their house. Most of the time people don't look that great. No. It's not about that. My friend worked in a swingers club. He was like my friend,
Starting point is 00:16:05 and he was like the guy who would like, and it was so funny because no matter. Hand out towels. Absolutely. He worked in the rooms where everyone was fucking, right? And no, and he told me because you just get so used to it that they go in and he would have to go in and like plug the light in like because one of the legs
Starting point is 00:16:21 that all these people. are banging, you know, and the leg would like pull the light switch off, so he'd have to go in while they're screwing and just plug the light. And, you know, after a while, it's like no big deal. It doesn't, it's like you're whopping the floor. No different. And I got my friend, I got this girl, I was working in a talent agency and I got this girl intern, a job there. I don't know why. And I saw her recently. I bumped into her recently. You know what she said to me? This is a girl. She was kind of out of her mind. She's like a hula hoop girl in New York City, like one of those. She's like really nutty and different and very out of the box. And she was always working in offices. And I
Starting point is 00:16:52 got her job with my friend in that place, bartending at the Swingers Club. And I saw her recently and she said, you know, Kathy, I have to thank you for getting me that job. That was one of the most normal jobs I've ever had. People treated me so nicely there compared. Because this was like a Hulu Hoopi Girl
Starting point is 00:17:08 working in nine to five offices with uptight suit people, treating her like shit, acting like she was so weird because she was an actress and, you know, artistic and creative and people like that, you know, suit people look at people like they're aliens. Yeah. So now she's like in a swingers club and everybody, you know, they're treating her like she's a regular person. She was like it was my most favorite job.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Thank you. They treated me so nicely there. I fit in. So welcoming. Totally. I don't know how to take it. I contemplated that for a long time, but it's so interesting. It's all.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I hope you just said, you're welcome and then walked away. I was like, that's fascinating. I did. We talked for like 21 months. She's a very interesting, unique character. All right. So anyway, we'll be, I know Tommy's not that captivated. I mean, what's with you today?
Starting point is 00:17:50 I'm captivating. You already complimented me and high five Oh, you want to quit while your head. You're smart. See, another is supposed to see you very. Tommy's so smart. Two compliments today. So we should give you an IQ test today.
Starting point is 00:18:02 She's a little gold star or something. It'll be fine. All right, let's quit with Tommy while we're ahead. And we'll be back on with tuna comes clean. That's what we're going to call it. Tuna comes clean. Good one. Okay, we'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com, with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Strictly anonymous. Hey, Tuna, you're on.
Starting point is 00:18:46 It's on. You're on the air with Kathy and Tommy. How are you? What's up, Tuna? Oh, I'm doing fine. You're doing fine. Okay, so listen, Tuna. Now, I explained everything to Tommy as well as the callers, and I read your email that you said.
Starting point is 00:19:00 The listeners. I read your email that you sent last night and explained the situation and got everything, everyone up to speed. And now we're going to start a new call with you and give you the advice and talk about what we talked about last time, but with more of the truth, right? With the fact that the one time you did get laid was with a prostitute, you're really looking for a relationship. The same question stands, right? Like you're looking for a girlfriend and you're nervous or worried that the fact that you've never had a relationship is a deal breaker, right? Correct. Correct.
Starting point is 00:19:33 All right. So go on and tell us what happened. You know what I mean about what he wrote in the email? We'll start from the beginning, right? Well, what? With the prostitute? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you didn't like the experience.
Starting point is 00:19:45 When you say it wasn't a girlfriend experience, like you wanted to kiss her, you're not looking for a prostitute. Ultimately, what you're looking for is a real relationship, right? not just sex, right? Yes. And you also said in the email, the other interesting thing is you said you, on the call you think you said you were seven, but now you're calling yourself a five and you're saying you're overweight. How overweight are you? I wish you could send a picture of your body to us.
Starting point is 00:20:07 How overweight are you? Well, I wait 511 and I'm actually 240. You weigh 511 and you're 511 and you weigh 240. I don't know what that means. How big is that time? Okay, I'm 5-11. Yeah. And I'm 230 pounds.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Oh, okay. So Tommy and Tommy, I do not consider Tommy fat, and he's fucked a lot of girls. So your body is not your problem. But I'm going to tell you something, Tuna. It's actually 235. You're 235 and you're 240? Yeah. Yeah, so you're not that fat.
Starting point is 00:20:43 That's not that overweight. And just so you know, girls don't care about that. Fat guys get late all the time. Sometimes people put on fat. Like people that are like, I think you honestly, and I've thought this from the beginning because when you started bringing up your, you know, your sex issues on our first call, I thought that that was more indicative of another problem. I think you have commitment issues. I know that you're looking really for a girlfriend. But I think all these things signify that you have like a serious commitment issue.
Starting point is 00:21:12 So let's get to your thing and what you initially called in on is that you want a girlfriend. and you're afraid that the fact that you'd never had a relationship is going to be an issue for them, right? Yes. And that's still... The fact that, like, the fact that, okay, if I get older, if I get older, and I ask a girl out on the date, where on this date, and we start talking, and she asked me, hey, you know what I'm going, so have you ever been, like, not like what happened to your previously? relationship and I don't and I tell I've never been in one I'm worried is that a deal with her is she not
Starting point is 00:21:57 going to go out with me anymore because in her because I'm thinking in her mind she might assume like I'm a virgin something's wrong with me or like I have no life experience or something yeah well I've been told that through my friends tell me it could be it could be an issue yeah well some girls say like I don't date a guy who's never had a girlfriend I We'll never date a guy who's never have a girlfriend. Like, doing anything. Well, Tuna, you don't have to, in the beginning, you know, when you start dating someone, you don't have to go all in, you know, when explaining things. Tell them what you told them the first time.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Yeah, what I told you the first time. When someone asked you, just say, I haven't had many long-term relationships. Because at your age now in your mid-20s, that's fine. No one's had really long-term relationships. You've had flings, you know? And they said, what do you mean you haven't had in long term? I haven't had any long-term relationships. You know, I've been in and out, you know, small things here and there.
Starting point is 00:22:57 That's all. And they say, well, why? Just, you know, I haven't met the right person. And that's all. I mean, because you're not lying. You haven't met the right person. And you haven't been any long-term relationships. You're not misleading anybody.
Starting point is 00:23:10 And then once you guys start dating and things progress and, you know, the trust has built between the two of you, then you can sit there and, you know, let out more things about your person. You know what I mean? Once you're secure that, you know, you're together in the relationship, then you can divulge more info about your past. But right in the beginning, the meeting part and just getting acquainted, don't, you don't, yeah, don't lay all your cards on the table. I mean, just like playing poker, you got to keep them to your chest. just, you know, you're not lying to anybody you're misleading. Yeah, but Tommy, I think
Starting point is 00:23:49 another problem that you have, Tuna, is that you're, like, you get rejected by girls, right? And it makes you, like, and that, and it's happened a lot for you, so it's like you have that fear also of even just approaching women, right? Exactly. It gets, like, I've, like,
Starting point is 00:24:05 it wasn't before, it was before I called in, so it was before I saw your ad. I have been, like, when I was younger, I, talked to a bunch of girls. I couldn't even get them to go on a date with me, or their number. I got rejected so much.
Starting point is 00:24:22 It got to the point, like, if I get rejected so much, what's the point of even approaching them? Yeah, that sucks. I go out with friends. You know, I just like, hey, let them do their thing. I go, I really watch the game, honestly. I just sit down and just grab a drink and watch the game when I'm out of bar or something like that. Or if I'm at a house party, I just,
Starting point is 00:24:45 sit by my son. I just sit by like I keep my bother anymore. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. But how long, how long sorry Tommy? How long have you not been bothering for? Excuse me?
Starting point is 00:24:59 How long have you not been bothering to meet girls for? Like have you take, like has this been years that you don't bother anymore and you were getting rejected years ago or is it months? Like how long is it that you gave up? I've gave up since like like four. Like since 2009. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Yeah. A long time. You know, Tuna, like I said before, I mean, you know. Yeah, that's five years. Yeah. Instead of giving up, instead of taking these one shots and trying to ask out one girl to go on a date with you, my strategy before with you would be, yes, go out with your friends in groups or parties where everybody knows each other and mingles, and you've got to mingle more. mean, no, listen, don't go up to them and just, you know, call them and say, hey, listen, I like you,
Starting point is 00:25:51 I want to go out on a date. Even if they like you, they're still going to say no because they might feel intimidated, you know. What you've got to do is kind of put your toe into the friend zone a little bit and kind of socially be around all the time and start to meet people. And then you get a little bit of comfort built there. and then you kind of go in and say, hey, maybe one time you want to go out for a drink without everybody else, just maybe me and you. But, Tom. Isn't being in the friend zone kind of bad? No.
Starting point is 00:26:28 No. You know how many of my friends I had sex with and tried to date? It's not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing. Girls will wind up liking their friends all the time. Yeah. No, what happens is you see the thing on TV and the guys like, oh, we're in the friend zone. It's because some guy's so hard up for one girl
Starting point is 00:26:44 And she's like, no, I just want to be friends You don't have anything right now That's a good start for you It's a great start And not only that, let me tell you something Like guys that have girls that are their friends They understand girls more Like maybe if you got some girls that were your friends
Starting point is 00:26:57 And even if it didn't turn into anything Like that's a good way of you just getting used To like having game with girls In a very safe way Seeing what they like Yeah understanding how they think Because you think you're fat and girls don't like that like news flash girls don't care
Starting point is 00:27:11 like and you're not that fat Tommy's only 10 pounds old and there's a lot of girls who like men I don't consider Tommy fat There's a lot of girls that like men With meat on their bones Totally they're yes totally A lot of them
Starting point is 00:27:22 Most of my friends are chubby chasers They're not into like little little guys You know what I mean And if you get I don't know like What type of body do you like to in a woman Like do you mind a girl that's like Is really curvy Yeah I prefer
Starting point is 00:27:37 I don't I don't care like about I don't care about, I don't mind that curvy or... Right, because let me tell you something about those curvy girls, too. I just like a girl that likes you. I just like a girl with a pretty face. Okay, but let me just tell you something about bigger girls and girls. Like, no girl ever wants to be with a guy that's smaller than her because it makes her feel big.
Starting point is 00:27:57 You know what I mean? I don't care if she's a size seven. She doesn't want to be with a guy that's a size two. Like, so if you get a girl that's like curvy or something, you're going to be perfect for her because she doesn't want a skinnier guy because then she's going to feel like the big one in the relationship. And no girl wants to feel that way. They want to feel skinny and small.
Starting point is 00:28:16 I'm not trying to like be skinny. Like, oh, do I have to like... We're not telling you to be skinny. We're saying the girl wants to be skinny, tuna. I'm saying the girl wants to be skinny. I'm saying you're fine the way that you are now. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:30 You told us your stats. You're 511, you're 2.40. Tommy's 511 and he's 235. And he's by no means considered fat, okay? So you're not really that overweight. So don't worry about it. I'm telling you that go for the currier girls or the girls that have bodies like yours or bigger girls. They're going to appreciate that because they don't want the scrawny guys.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Okay, they don't. But I want to know what's going through your head because I think Tommy gives you the advice if you just have to get the confidence, but that's easier said than done. Like if you're talking to my 15-year-old nephew, that's like a good speech of how to go out there. But he's already been out there. No, I understand. And it is about getting confidence. How is he going to get the confidence?
Starting point is 00:29:08 Confidence is the easiest way to get to get the confidence is to start. It's easier to be with a group of people than to be one on one. Wouldn't you agree? Of course. Okay. So to be with the group, go out with your boys. He does. Let me finish.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Sorry. Go out with your boys and their girlfriends or girls, they're hanging around because girls always bring more girls. And then this way, you're always there. And you can't be the guy sitting on the couch at the house. party are in the corner of the bar watching the game you got a you know I know but but Tommy the problem is like how does he's in a funk and he's in like and he mind fucked himself into this corner and sometimes I don't know if you've ever been in there but I've been there I have too and it's hard like
Starting point is 00:29:55 I don't think your pep talk is going to get him out of the funk it's something else we need to know how his brain works when you're at these parties tuna okay and you're sitting around and there's girls around are you looking around and see people that you're attracted to or you're not even like wired that way anymore I need check them out, but I don't approach them. I just, it is what it is. Because you've literally thrown in the towel for five out, for five years it is what it is. And you just jerk off to get yourself off.
Starting point is 00:30:24 You had one prostitute in your life, and that wasn't a great experience? It wasn't really. It wasn't. But you lost your virginity. Yes. Right. Well, you got that out of the way. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:36 But you need to be having more sex. I mean. What? No, you need to just be having more interaction. Listen, sex is a part of a relationship. You just need to be interacting more with women socially, intimately, sexually, all those ways. All of that is that life experience that your friends want you to have, that you have been avoiding. I personally think it's a deeper issue, and it is a commitment issue.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I know that you really want a relationship and you say that. But anyone that's keeping themselves in a corner at a party, especially a man that's turned everything off and is just sitting there and is thrown in the, the towel. It's some things like unplugged inside of you that you need to plug in. I had a girlfriend like you and she made up all these reasons for why she wasn't really doing anything. And it was because she was really afraid actually of
Starting point is 00:31:24 commitment of getting involved in a real relationship for whatever that reason is. And you know, you have to go to therapy to figure that shit out. It's much deeper than just getting a pep talk from Tommy. But we want to give you short term advice. You want to know what I did to get out of a funk. What? And I mean, you might think it's weird. I don't know if you drive
Starting point is 00:31:40 or not. But when I was in a funk, What I would do, and I really did this, and it's pulled me out of a funk sometimes. What I would do is my room or my apartment, whatever, I would basically clean it head to toe, do all my laundry, put everything away. So I have all good, my nice clothes to go out. I would detail my car inside it out, have it done, okay? And then I would go out. And just the process of cleaning my house, cleaning my car, and cleaning myself, getting a haircut and everything. Yeah, raise yourself esteem.
Starting point is 00:32:13 And raise myself, team, and going out and knowing that everything at home, there's no dirty laundry, there's no dirty dishes. There's no dirty secrets. There's nothing. Everything is clean. You're feeling good. You're polished a little bit and you go out. It might be that just that little, little bit of tiny bit of confidence you need to just jumpstart, you know, everything. And like I said, it only takes one interaction to get the ball rolling.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Right. But since we had our last thing with you and we talked to you about like just really sort of powering through that and just going out and getting rejected and not being afraid of being rejected anymore because you're a different person. Okay, you haven't tried to hit on girls for five years. Maybe you're more of a man now. Like you don't know what the, you know, the sort of the atmosphere is going to be like now when you go out. Like you haven't even tried. Maybe five years ago you were more shy or you were, you know what I mean? So you need to try again just to see where you're at.
Starting point is 00:33:12 I understand. Like the reason I gave up is that I just realized like maybe I'm not ready for a relationship because maybe because of my self-spoken personality. Maybe I have to go finish school, get a job.
Starting point is 00:33:29 No, you're just making up excuses. Just try to get myself together. Then start dating again. Oh my God. Tuna. Tuna, you know how many messed up dudes I dated in my 20s? The guys didn't have jobs, the guys that were in bands, guys that were doing heroin. Like women don't care about that shit when they're in their 20s, what you're together or not.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Like, don't worry about that kind of stuff. You're a good guy regardless. So you're already together. Any girl is going to get that vibe from you. So you don't need to do all that stuff. It just sounds like you have a lot of excuses that you're always putting, having a relationship on the back burner. But I suggest stop looking at everything all at once, the relationship and everything all at one thing. Just focus on the first thing, going out.
Starting point is 00:34:11 meeting someone. He goes out. No, no, no, no, no. Just step by step. Yeah, but step by step. He needs a hit on somebody. Don't go talking or approaching a girl with relationship and dating and all that in your mind. Get that out of your mind.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Yeah, but you know what? You can't tell. I'm a very in my head person. I understand Tuna, okay? I'm just telling you to tell him. No, telling someone to not think, who thinks a lot is like telling them to die and come back as a different person. Like that doesn't help a person like him because he's not, he's going to think. You have to tell him what to do.
Starting point is 00:34:41 do with all that in his head, he still has to do it. Because I'm telling you, when people give me that advice, Kathy, don't think or don't, like, that doesn't work for me. Like, pretend I'm going to think and now analyze and help me with that in your mind. This guy, Tuna Tommy, I get his emails. He thinks a lot. He's a worrier. That's who he is.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Tell him how to get girls worrying and thinking. Yep. Well, he's going to get girls still. He can still get girls that way. You're going to be fine. You got to focus on the task at hand. You got to think. and worry and still have the balls and go up to a girl.
Starting point is 00:35:14 We got to give you balls, tuna. That's all it takes. You just have to stop being afraid. You have to face your fears. Your fear is rejection. A lot of people have that fear. A lot of people use alcohol. What the callers don't remember is that tuna doesn't drink.
Starting point is 00:35:27 That makes your life harder, okay? Because most people are doing everything with what we call liquid courage. You don't have that liquid courage. All you have is your courage. And after being knocked down and turned down so many times in your life, Of course, you lost that courage and you're more afraid than anything. But I'm going to tell you when you have a fear, whatever it is, I have a fear of elevators, okay?
Starting point is 00:35:50 And I live in New York, and you want to know why I go in elevators every day because I have to. If I lived in Idaho and I never went in elevator, I'd never be able to go in because I'd be avoiding my fear. I face my fear every single day. And that's the only way to keep a fear from overtaking you. So what you have to do with this fear of rejection is go get rejected, stop being afraid of it, no matter what. And that doesn't mean that you go into it thinking that you're not going to have any feelings about it and you're going to be confident out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:36:16 That's not going to happen. You're going to do it and it's going to feel uncomfortable and you might get rejected and that's what's going to happen. But you have to do it anyway. Do you understand? You have to get some balls or just some power in you to just like live life. Yeah, I understand. That's a lot she rifled off at you.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Yeah, Tommy. Tell me to calm down. No, no, no. I said slow down. You were talking fast. Oh, who makes more sense to you, Tuna, me or Tommy? You're both, a little bit of both. We appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:36:44 We appreciate that. He's not going to say one or the other. Yeah, well, don't worry. Listen, like she said, to simplify it, you've got to get your confidence up. You've got to go. No, he's got to do it without confidence. He's not going to get his confidence up tomorrow. He's got to get balls.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Well. Okay. That's a different thing than confidence. I was a low self-esteem person, but I had balls. I would force myself to do things that I was afraid of anyway. And that's what you just need to know. You need to get back out there and do things despite of your disabilities, your emotional disabilities that you have. Because those are not going to go away tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Self help and changing yourself with a therapist and I think you have issues. That kind of stuff takes time to work on. But that doesn't mean that you shouldn't be able to be doing stuff now. And you need to get back in the game. And you're going to have to get back in the game without confidence, with all your fears, with all your thinking, with all your worrying. You're going to have to force yourself to go hit on the next bitch you see. And maybe you go after threes or fours just to get yourself, you know, used to it so that, you know, you have less of a chance of getting rejected. And you have to start worrying about getting rejected.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Everyone gets rejected. Who fucking cares? That's how you have to think about it. You have to get that kind of mentality, Tuna. Do you know what I mean? Somehow you have to laugh at it. Somehow you just have to stop taking it personally. And I swear to you, when you're in a funk and you haven't done something for five years, the hardest thing is whether it's you haven't been to the gym in five years or you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Anything. You the hardest thing to do is to do the first thing the first time the first day. After that it's easy You all you have to do is one time go up to a girl this weekend and just head on her Easier and easier and easier jump off the cliff jump in the cold water force yourself to do it and then after you do it's that first time that's going to be the hardest because you're literally coming out of a five year dry spell and that's the scariest time and after you do that It's going to get less scary and less scary and then you're going to find a girl and you're going to get a girlfriend and then you're going to work out your shit in a relationship because you're because that's really the best place for you to be dealing with all these issues, is with a girl in a relationship. That's where you're going to figure out whether a girl likes it or not.
Starting point is 00:38:47 By doing it, that's how we all figure everything out. You can't ask us, is a girl going to mind if I didn't have a relationship? You're going to have to go out with a girl and see if that girl minds. Like, that's how we figure things out. You don't need us to tell you. You need life experience. Your friends are right. But you have to stop sitting at bar.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Like you have friends. You're not a total loser. You're not sitting home every day. You're out, right? You like girls. Yes. I do like girls. Yeah, and you're missing out, Tuna.
Starting point is 00:39:14 You need to do it. Can you please promise me that this weekend when you go out, you will force yourself. I wish I could put like a microphone in your ear and do one of those things. You will force yourself to go up to any girl in a bar and just totally, with that thought in your mind that you're totally going to be rejected and just do it for shits and giggles? Because once you look at it that way and don't take the rejections and know you're going to be rejected and know that you'll be rejected and know that you'll be. fine because you will survive, you'll be okay again and you'll be back doing it. All you want to do is initiate a conversation. Hey, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:39:46 What's your name? And see where it goes. It doesn't have to particularly be like, give me your phone number. You know what I mean? Just initiate a conversation, see where it goes. And then if she says a- Yeah, I've trouble doing that. You got to do it.
Starting point is 00:39:59 You have to force yourself to do it. Listen, you have the balls to call up strangers that you met on Craigslist. You have more courage than you think. talk to us like this. That takes balls. You need to channel that. I did it because maybe you might, you have, you've experienced dating and, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:18 we have. We have. I've had failures. Yeah. I, you know how many, I think I talked about this on one podcast. In my 20s, I was never rejected.
Starting point is 00:40:30 In my 30s, I was constantly rejected. Like the tables turned, I don't know what the hell it was. It was a very humbling experience. And I got, oh, have to slow down.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I got rejected left and right. Like it was brutal. And I had never experienced that in my 20s. And, um, but you know, it's like you have to look at it like a bot like I felt like I was a boxer. And every time someone punched me in the face and I fell down, I got back up. Like you have to somehow mind fuck yourself tuna into figuring out a way that you could motivate yourself with your mind and your feelings to get back out after. Because you've been punched so much.
Starting point is 00:41:08 You're down for the count and you've been down for five years. But you have to get back up and you need something inside of you to motivate you to do that. Do you understand? I know how to mind fuck myself and to motivate myself. You know, and I think, you know, you have to, I don't know how your mind works or what that's going to be. But I think Tommy gave you some good advice about like cleaning your act up. I don't know, like maybe buy a new outfit. Like get your game on it.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Like feel as good about yourself as you can. Right? and then force yourself to start talking to somebody. These girls are drunk in a bar. Go to the drunken girl in the bar. They're drunk. They don't care. Go out this weekend.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Take the plunge, initiate a conversation a couple times if you can do it. And send us an email on Sunday and let us know what happened. You know? He wants to know how to do that though. Like you don't like. I told him how to do it. The easiest way to do it is to go. Well, the easy.
Starting point is 00:42:05 easiest way to do it is to go out with friends in a group where everybody has that. He does go out with friends. Can I finish? Sure. That with your friends, with girlfriends and everybody there. By the way, I don't go out with friends like every weekend or anything like that. It's okay. Just go out with your friends this weekend.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Where they have some girlfriends with them and you're in a group and just you're not hitting on them. You're just having conversations with them. And it's not anything sexual, dating, whatever. you're having a conversation with a girl, okay? And you do that a couple of times, and then you tweak it a little bit, and then you have a conversation.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Okay, Tuna, what would be the first thing you would say to a girl? How are you? Tommy. My name is Tuna. No, no. That's your name. No, if you're meeting,
Starting point is 00:42:55 if you're going up to a girl at a bar, you know, or something, you see her, you know, something. If she bumps into you, like, oh, hey, how you doing? Sorry about that. And you go, oh, don't worry. And then you compliment her.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Oh, it's, you know, that's a, you know, that's a very nice, you know, shoes or a nice bag or something like that. And she'll be like, oh, thank you. And you say, oh, no problem. Hi, how you doing? My name's tuna. And, you know, and then she'll obligate. And she'll, oh, hi, my name's Kristen.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Very nice to meet you. Great, great, great. Are you here with friends? You know, just start a bullshit conversation and just always ask questions. Offer to buy her a drink, girls like that. Yeah, if you can. But always ask questions. Get her talking.
Starting point is 00:43:37 But I don't drink. It doesn't matter. She will. She will. She will. You know, if you can and say, hey, can I get your cocktail or something? Will you like a drink? I don't drink, but do you want one?
Starting point is 00:43:48 Don't you care if she drinks? If she says, no, no, I'm okay. Yeah, like, if I'm not drinking and she's drinking and people, like, see me talking to her and she's just, like, she has, like, a drink or anything. Tuna. You might think I'm a brother or something. That would be weird. Wait, wait, what did you just say?
Starting point is 00:44:06 No, no one's going to think you're weird, but. And you don't sit there with no cocktail. You get yourself a club soda with a lime in it. It looks like you're drinking a vodka. Wait, you have a problem going up to a drunk girl drinking if you're not drinking? You think you look like a predator if you're not drinking and she's drinking? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:24 You have too many rules for yourself. You make up all this stuff with yourself. It's just like all these roadblocks to your success. It's all your own thinking. Not true at all. They call it an AA stinking thinking. Yeah. You have like a, your mind works against you.
Starting point is 00:44:38 It's giving you just so many reasons not to go up and do something. What if she's totally drunk? Who cares? Maybe that's a turnoff to you. So maybe use the drunk girl as a, we're not talking. This is not like we're not telling you how to go out and find the girl of your dreams. You're not there yet. You need to just get in the game.
Starting point is 00:44:58 You need to have conversations with girls. Yeah, on the last call, Tommy said, go after like a fat girl or someone like I said, go after a four. Go after someone you'd feel more confident. Even that's not the girl you're going to date. And this isn't even, it's not the girl you're going to take home. You're not making out with this girl. You might not even call her if she gives you her phone number.
Starting point is 00:45:16 You just need to have experience and having conversations with them. Without any expectations or any kind of feelings of like regret. So go after the girl that nobody's talking to in the bar that maybe isn't getting any attention. And just have a conversation. It's just like, hey, my name is so. So what's your name? Like you look bored or like how, who are you here with? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:35 That's it. You're not, look, this isn't the girl. you're bringing home. There's no expectation, like Kathy said. You just need practice having conversations. Can you do that? I could do that. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Now we're making progress, baby. You could do that. So you will go up to like a girl that's maybe like a loan or not really that great looking, someone that you're not that invested in and put yourself out there, right? Just say hi. Yeah. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:02 So that's your homework this weekend. Totally. Yeah. Because we have another podcast. with you that we have taped with all about your foot fetish. And so we get into like that aspect of your life on that call. This call is all about you trying to have a relationship. I think that you need to just get out there and start, you know, dating a girl or not even
Starting point is 00:46:24 dating. Just start with talking to girls and hooking up. Not even hooking up, right? Just talking. Just talking. With no expectations. And that, that's going to get you more comfortable to be around, you know, to be around. girls and to engage in conversations and once you get that down and you're comfortable being
Starting point is 00:46:44 around talking you figure out how to ways to get in and out of a conversation all the other stuff is just going to fall into place I promise you you want me to take baby steps exactly totally but what happens is like I really feel like any time it's like a domino effect I swear to you I tell people of this all the time because I'm like a big person that creates a lot of change in my life and and what happens is when you do one thing, you know, it winds up like so many other things just happen naturally. Do you understand? You just got to knock down that one domino and then like 10 more other things follow. It's like a lot of times that's all it takes. It's like action creates more action. So just do something different. Do you understand if you do one thing different, then so many
Starting point is 00:47:27 other things will be different just by default. It has to be because that's just the way that it is. If you do the same thing, which is nothing, there's going to be nothing. If you start changing just a little bit it's going to create change you won't even have to do that much it just will start to come naturally it's not like it's not going to be such hard work yeah let's not lay any more on them i mean that's your that's your homework for this weekend go out there just get into a conversation and see how it goes okay have to do it for the show and then we have you back on you have to do it now we're forcing you does that help you because now it's like something that you're on the spot yeah okay you're gonna do it for us?
Starting point is 00:48:06 Yes. I'll do it for you guys. Yeah, you have to. And, you know, if you go out Friday and Saturday, do it both days, but do it once, and then you're going to have to let me know, and then we have a call back with you. All right, tuna. Bye. Okay?
Starting point is 00:48:19 Don't sound so excited. All right, Tuna. We'll talk to you soon, okay, buddy? Good luck. You have to do it. If you don't do it, I'm never talking to you again. I'll never email you back, dude. Tuna, are you listening to me?
Starting point is 00:48:31 I'm serious. Yes, I'm listening to you. You're going to do it. You're going to do it, right? Yes, I'm going to do it. All right. And I'll tell you what happened. Okay, good luck, buddy.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Awesome. Awesome. We'll be there with you in spirit. All right. Thanks for you, right. Good luck, dude. Bye. Bye, Tudor. All right.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Bye-bye. Okay, Tommy, I know that you can't stand that call. I don't know why you were yelling at me the whole time with your hands. No, no, no. I just think you were going too fast. You talk too fast. You'll listen to it. I know I do talk too fast.
Starting point is 00:49:00 And I'm trying to help you. I'm trying to help you. I know about you're pushing down. I didn't know what that meant. Slow down. Pump the brakes, baby. Yeah, but I brought you a pad. You see that pad right there?
Starting point is 00:49:10 That's a pad. Oh, I didn't know that was my pad. That's your new pad. This is my pad. That's your pad. You're supposed to write me notes like, shut the fuck up. You're talking too fast.
Starting point is 00:49:16 All right. I was pumping the brakes. Right. And you didn't curse, which was great. I didn't. And you just talked a little too fast. But you know what? Like I said, I feel for tuna, I mean...
Starting point is 00:49:30 I think with you, the problem is you were giving him advice like he's a normal guy. I think that he's really not. And I think sometimes it's just like everyone's wired so differently. Like different people need different things to motivate them. He needs some energy in him to get up the courage to just get out of this five-year dry spell. Listen, that's what I did. It worked for me.
Starting point is 00:49:51 I can't tell him something. I don't know. But I believe that you were having a one-week dry spell. This is, when I said funk, okay, right? You're laughing because I'm right, right? I went into more 10-day dry spell. 10 days, but he has a five years. It's a lot.
Starting point is 00:50:05 When I say a funk, I mean he's in a real bad. He's put himself in a bad place. That's why you can't, listen, that's why you can't not conquer your fears. I was afraid. I've always been afraid of elevators, right? That's my thing. And I've lived in the city 20 years. And like 20 years ago, there was a time where I, like, lived in a building.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I was able to avoid going in the elevators. And I became so petrified of going to. And I had a job that I didn't have to go in elevators. For some reason, I was able to live in New York and not go in elevators for a long period of time. And about six months of avoiding that. of going in an elevator. One day the door my building was locked so I couldn't walk upstairs. I had to take the elevator and I couldn't get in. I literally and it was like I was working in a bar at the time. It was five o'clock in the morning. Okay. No, I didn't go in. This is how
Starting point is 00:50:46 petrified I was. I was like this guy. No, I went outside and waited for like a homeless man to walk by. This is what I did. And I had the guy come in, take the elevator up to the first floor and then come down and open up the door for me. That's how scared. That's how immobilized by my fear I was. Do you understand? And that's the why. And the reason why, and the reason why, I was so immobilized is because I wasn't facing it. The more you turn away from the fear, the bigger it gets, and then you become, like, paralyzed by it. For me, the way, and I'm still afraid of elevators.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Every time I get in one, I'm afraid it's going to get stuck in it, I'll flip out. But I go in them every single day, different ones, every single day. And my fear never gets bigger than that because I don't avoid it. When you avoid something of fear and you don't do it, you're fucked. Well, he's been avoiding his shit completely. But that's a fear. Let's see if he does something. You know, you know, stranger things have happened and, you know, hopefully, fuck Christ, hopefully he hits on one fat girl that thinks he's the cat's pajamas and we're getting a good phone call.
Starting point is 00:51:46 But he's got to go, like I said, step by step, baby steps, he said, and stop. And you're right. You can't tell a thinker not to think. Yeah, I hate what people say stuff like that. You have to, like, it's like you're telling him not to be himself. You have to give advice to people, I believe, you know, with where they're at right then. Because people tell me that. Like, don't, like, be you in a certain way.
Starting point is 00:52:10 It's like, fuck off. Like, why don't you tell me to be myself and figure out to do it that way? Maybe he should be, you know, we should, we'll see what happens this weekend. But maybe he should, he's got to be a little calmer. He doesn't, what do you mean calmer? He'd be comatose. He's a calmest person we have ever had on the show. I bet you, he stands there sweating before he goes to talk to somebody.
Starting point is 00:52:29 No, he has like no energy. He doesn't even do. He doesn't. wet because he doesn't do anything. He's as calm as he's literally dead in that area of his life. Well, let's hope for the best for this weekend, you know? Yeah, well, our hope for like a little bit. That's what I have realistic expectations.
Starting point is 00:52:43 You think this guy's going to get confidence and all this stuff out of like a, like he's a magician. How funny would it be you got an email on Sunday? I met this girl. She had like eight fat friends. We went back to the Marriott and I've been having sex now. I used to live in Fantasyland. And Fantasyland is better because in fantasy land. Things like that exist.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Fantasyland tune and it'd be getting late. In Fantasyland, that Malaysian plane is like on an island someplace and everyone's like okay. Like that's, I love fantasy land stories. I know, but that's terrible to say. What do you mean? It's like a plane that disappeared. No one could find it. How could you say you're sick of it?
Starting point is 00:53:17 I'm just, I just don't get it. I know. It's fucked up. I'm obsessed with that story. Normally I don't talk about other things. Yeah, I'm shocked. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:53:24 I know. I know. But I mean, the whole point is, is like, I like to live in fantasy land. Like in my land, the Malaysian. The Malaysian plane is fine and people are alive. That's what I believe. I'm the show of lost. Yeah, because I want life to work like the movies and it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:53:39 And sorry Tommy, but that's not going to happen. He's not going to fuck eight fat girls this weekend. I don't know. But I think maybe we got him to at least make one pass at a girl. I bet you there's a lot of guys like him out there. He's not the only one. No.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Especially if you don't drink and stuff. But I think they're not drinking and they're not fucking. into that I think it's a deeper commitment issue. Contini, my friend, Courtney would call her Cutney. She was very much like that. And really what that is is people that are just petrified of getting close
Starting point is 00:54:10 for whatever reason. Yeah, I don't think he wanted to get into that. So we just, you know, need him to start the living life. And can I remind our listeners to send us everything on our email at Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com? And also when you subscribe, well, you're obviously subscribing and listening to the shows. Take two seconds and just write a review.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Tommy begging for the reviews. I'm banging for these reviews, baby. Begging, begging. Begging and banging. Banging the table. Give me the damn reviews. Yes, do what Tommy says. Any agenda for next week or to be?
Starting point is 00:54:49 No, I don't know. We never know what's good. Oh, we do have John calling in. John the gift that keeps on giving. John is calling in with a major update. But we don't want to give it away. No, it's really good, though. Really good.
Starting point is 00:55:01 It's three more stories, three more episodes, and they're really good, and he's sending pictures. I told him not to send the pictures until while we're on the podcast, because I like to have very authentic reactions. Shock value, yeah. No, I like, if I'm going to see these pictures, I want to be talking about them on air. So I said, don't send them until we're actually on the podcast. That's good. I like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:22 I like the authentic thing. So we're taping that next. So he'll be on the next week, so stay tuned. All right. Bye-bye. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order
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