Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 024 - Comedian Robert Kelly Used to be a Cheater

Episode Date: May 27, 2014

In this episdoe Robert Kelly, the comedian and author of Cheat, calls in to discuss how he used to cheat, why he used to cheat and what it's like to no longer cheat anymore. We discusst cheating from every angle. Is it ok to cheat? Are there different types of cheaters? Why do people cheat? Listen in for all the details. Robert Kelly is currently Louie CK's brother on FX's Louie, he's also been featured on Comedy Central Presents, HBO's Tourgasm and he had a starring role on ABC's The Job with Denis Leary. Robert often appears on The Opie and Anthony Show on Sirius XM Satellite Radio and he has his own podcast called You Know What Dude! Check it out, it's hilarious.   **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. Craigslist is definitely the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it. The temptation is just too much.

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Hey, welcome to Strictly Anonymous Podcast with Kathy and Tommy. Hey, how are you? This is Strictly Anonymous Podcast. For you people that are listening, you can reach us at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. You can email us your problems and then we can contact you, hopefully get you on the show. You can follow us on Twitter at Strict Anonymous. And the same for Facebook. Strictly anonymous.

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Yeah, exactly. Maybe we do need a different format, more callers. I don't know. So we're open at this point still. I'm amazing. Kathy sucks. You know,

the shit like that. Oh, my God. I love that. And, you know, the feedback is what makes the show better. because I don't listen to the show. I just listen to your reviews. Yes, Tommy. Do you even read the reviews?

Yeah. We have reviews. We need more. We need more. So today I want to get to this call. So this is the deal. I had talked to Robert Kelly about doing a podcast about cheating because I can't tell you how many emails I get.

I mean, everybody basically that's called into our show is cheating, most of them. And then besides people that call, I get emails. Or catching someone cheating. Right, right. Right. Because remember that guy from a couple weeks ago who his girlfriend wasn't acting normal for two weeks? Remember him? Yes.

And it was the day that your baby was here. So you might have not remembered a lot of the stuff that went on. But he thought his girlfriend was cheating because she was acting a little weird. And I was like, you're such a loser. She was cheating. So whether it's the guy cheating, the girl's cheating or the girl's thinking the guy's cheating or vice versa, everyone's fucking cheating. And that's like my favorite topic and my favorite conversation. Because I think my logical brain, which isn't male or female,

understand the whole thing. It just thinks guys cheat, you know, but my female brain would never want my guy to cheat. Do you know what I mean? So there's a big fucking dilemma. Big dilemma. And the person that I think is the best person to talk to you about cheating, even though I think you're good to talk about cheating because you used to be a total

cheater and now you're not. I'm a reformed. Yeah, you're reformed. But you can't, like, remember your cheating days. You try to, like, act like, that's not a thing. That's what you kind of do. It's not, it's not that I don't remember them. it's not like I'm trying to hide it.

Right. You know, it's just, you know, once you change over, it's, you don't, you know what I mean? You can't relate to that person that I used to be years ago. You know what I mean? Exactly. But someone that can, who I love and who's more honest than you, like, and more real, because he could remember who he used to be before he crossed over to the other side, to the dark side or the light side. I don't know what I used to do, but I can't, I don't know.

it's hard for me to explain. Right, but Robert Kelly, you know, who most of our fans probably know because they found us through Robert Kelly. He's a reformed cheater and he's married and has a kid just like you. You guys are very similar. Very similar. Yeah. He knows all about cheating. He wrote a book called cheat and honestly, of course he gave me a copy and I had to put it down because it was so irritating to me as a woman.

It was so depressing because his, like his description of cheating and the thrill and everything, it was. so good. It sounded so good. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. From the man's point of view that for a woman, it's so depressing. Do you understand? That I was like, I don't want to read this. Like it was actually terrible. Like I couldn't read past the first 20 pages because it was, but I would recommend the book to any guy. But I would not recommend any females to read it because the whole cheating thing is is like I just think that guys don't have feelings about it and girls do. It's like, you know, to me, man, it doesn't mean anything. But to a. Girl, it means everything. And that's where we're at in 2014.

And that's what we're going to talk about today on the phone with Robert. We're going to catch him while he's riding into the city. He agreed to be on our podcast today and talk about cheating. Cool. That's an ice of him. Yeah, totally, right? Yeah. It's one of his favorite talk.

Well, everything's a good time. Like, Robert's a good person to talk to about anything. But cheating is good because unlike you, he'll be a little bit more honest. Okay, so we'll be back on the call with Robert Kelly. Thanks. Do you have a story? lifestyle or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show?

Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com, with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Drink me a dog Hey Robert Kelly Is this a good time for you? Yeah

Okay You're on the air with me and Tommy What's up Robert? Hi Tommy How are you? I'm good How are you doing buddy? How are your tattoos?

They're doing good Do you know what Tommy said And he didn't say this on air He said it in between When we were waiting for you And I said why the fuck didn't you say this on the air He's like is Robert going to be nice to me? Is Robert going to be nice today?

I'm very nice. I like Tommy I like you a lot, Tony. All right, good. That's what I said. I said, were you mean to him last time on the call? I don't remember. No, I said no, but I think Robert could be a type of guy that if you catch him at the wrong hour, it might be difficult.

Yeah, you know what? You're absolutely right. I was like, he better not be mean. I'll come down and knock on the door with my Thor costume on. That was really bad, Tommy. I'll delete that out. So we don't. Yeah.

I love that Kathy. edit you on the air. Yeah, right there. She's like, don't worry. We're not going to play that, idiot. But the truth is, I'm not deleting that. I didn't even know what he said. I really didn't hear him.

He said he made a joke. I said if you were mean to me, I was going to come down and knock on your door in my Thor costume. I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. You know what? Edit that whole chunk out. I will.

Ty, put that down. And he's like going through his Facebook news feed. So we want to, I'll edit that. So we're, we want to talk about my favorite topic today and you're the perfect person to talk to because Tommy and you have a lot in common. We've said this before. You're both like former cheaters gone, you know, wife and baby mode. And, but you're more honest than Tommy. And cheating is my favorite topic because I just think it's such a dilemma, you know.

We probably need a real cheater, someone that's currently cheating on this call because you guys are both former. We're retired. Yeah, but I think unlike Tommy, Robert, you could actually, you know, you could speak for those guys because you have a friend. Or we're just really rock star cheaters. Oh. No, but I'm you. Or we're just so good at cheating that we're not going to even admit to it even now in the midst of fucking Brady Bunchland. We're still just sticking our dick somewhere and nobody knows.

Oh, my God. You wouldn't even tell me when we're on the phone. at like 1 o'clock in the morning when you're driving home? Not if I'm a rockstock. Oh. No, I'm kidding. Sorry. I was talking about that amazing book you wrote about cheating.

And I was saying that like as a woman when I read it, you made cheating and everything about it. It sounds so amazing. And that was in the first 20 pages. I couldn't even read it anymore. It was so depressing for me as a woman. No, it really was. I was like, fuck.

Like how could like if you're like, how could I imagine? believe that a man is not going to do this. Do you know what I mean? Well, yeah, I do know what you mean. But here's the thing. And I don't know how Tommy got over it, but I got over it by coming completely clean. And when you clean the slate with the person

that you're going to kind of be with and they know it's not them, it's you. You know, I mean, look, there's men like in the book, there's different cheaters. there's guys that do it because they're filling whole. There's people that do it because they're not getting good sex at home. There's people that do it, you know, because, you know, it's just in them.

That's what they are. They're always going to do it. You know, I myself, I wasn't cheating with, you know, some of a girl I was in love with or some other relationship. I was just doing it anywhere, whether it be, you know, some, some women of some relationships watching porn is cheating. That is not cheating. Well, no, it's not cheating, but I dated a girl who thought me watching porn was cheating.

Wait, but Robert, in your recovery, do you think watching porn is cheating? No, I don't think it's not cheating. My girl knows I watch porn. Does she know what type of porn gets me off? Hopefully not. Yeah, thank God. I'll have an empty house when I get home. But I hope she never types in Sheridan in a Google search.

Wait, wait, you cut out. Sheridan what? I hope she never types in Sheridan Hotel in a Google search. I don't even know what kind of porn that could be. Yeah, S-H. Oh, I get it. She-bails your, I can't even, that's a whole other topic, because I can't believe how many people

ever since I've had people on the show that copped to like fucking she-mels and you know getting a blow job from a tranny and then I start talking to all these regular people I know you Tommy my friend Frank like in 10 other people that are like oh yeah I got blown by a tranny like I didn't know that that was a thing it's like heroin all of a sudden like it's like acceptable

and people are talking about it when like 10 years ago nobody would ever copped to it well first of all I haven't copped to anything You blew a trant. You got blown by a tranny? No, I never got blown by a tranny. You didn't? No.

You swear. I don't like how you said it. It tricked me into, you said it like I told you, I got my dick checked by a tranny. You got blown by a tranny? No. I've never said that to you. You haven't? Didn't you say it on your show?

Isn't that like a known thing? No. No, I've never got blown for a tranny. No. You're positive? I believe. me I'm positive. Okay, let's go back to the cheating thing, though.

Let me ask you this, though, if it's so good, like you described in your book, and, like, why would you cross over? Like, why did you give it up? Well, it's just like, you know, banging chicks or being a womanizer or getting laid or fucking pores or whatever you're doing, it's a decision, a life choice, and, you know, being monogamous or trying to. to be monogamous is a choice. And yeah, it's a hard one when, you know, number one, you're in New York City.

Number two, you're in, you know, show business and you're on the road all the time. And you know, whatever your scenario is where you get to meet all kinds of different women or you have money to spend on hookers and stuff like that. But, you know, when you're going to, when you're presented with the decision, look, I'm going to leave. or you're going to change, and that's it. It's not a fuck you. It's not a, you're an asshole. It's either you change or I'm going to take off. And then, you know, I made the decision to try to become that guy.

Right. For myself, too. Because I was, you know, I was into hookers and I was into, you know, I was into stupid shit that wasn't about, you know, it wasn't like I met a chick that I really liked to. that that cheating is totally different cheating that a guy meets a woman that he really falls in love with Yeah that's a whole different There's all I believe it

There's all different levels of cheating Like there's some guys like the bottom of the barrel Cheaters like the worst cheaters They like fuck you like they would fuck your sister Behind your back or they would fuck their best friend's wife Like they would and they would fuck someone That's gonna sit at the table you know what I mean That's the type of porn I like

Right But were you that kind of cheater now No. You have too much empathy. I think that that has to be someone that has no empathy whatsoever. Like they literally have to either hate women or have no feelings for another person. And then there's the cheater like you and you, and you were pretty bad. You were going on like hooker vacations.

Well, I did a lot of crazy shit. But you were a bottom of the barrel cheater, but you were a pretty hardcore one. You weren't the guy that's in the office all day long and winds up. meeting a girl and it just happens by accident. You're not the guy that goes on vacation every now and then it gets wasted and fucks a girl and feels really bad and that doesn't do it for another two years. Those are those are like the not so bad cheaters. You were like a bad cheater. Tommy was a pretty bad cheater.

Yeah. Those are the accident of Torres cheaters. It's like, yeah, I was, I was cheating. Yes, I was definitely cheating, but I was doing it as a substitute. for, you know, I learned how to cheat when I quit drugs and drinking. I learned how to womanize. And womanizing became, you know, filling the hole with sex became cheating when I got serious with a woman. So that's like sex addict?

So you believe like you were a sex addict? I believe I was a sex addict. And here's the thing is, I mean, do you understand that there's a transition, though? It went from me being just a womanizer, liking sex, and the whole process of shooting angles of picking up a chick and get in to touch my ding-ding, right? And then I got a girl. You don't even sound like a cheater anymore, ding-dig.

I think ding-dings even dirtier. I think so. Go on. If I told you to suck my ding-ding, you're doing, oh, you're dirty boy. Yeah, if I was five. I know. Ding, dig.

Oh, right. I mean, Madison. If you met a girl. Yeah, but then you meet a girl and you kind of all of a sudden you're in this relationship. You don't know how it happened. And then all of a sudden you're living together. It's like, fuck. Oh, my God.

I didn't even have time to, I've been a womanizer. You know, it took it. I needed a fucking reboot. I needed a shock to the system. I needed somebody to flip the fucking chess board over so we can just start from scratch. You needed to hit a bottom, right? That's what they call it in AA.

It's no different, right? You needed to hit. If your wife never found all that shit on your computer, do you think you would, no, you needed something like that to happen? Because you were hardcore. Like, that doesn't just change for no reasons. You don't like happily one day think like,

oh, I'm just going to stop, you know, having all this great sex with other people and I'm not getting caught. and I'm having the best of both worlds. Like, you don't, no one walks away from that for no reason. They either get caught, like something happens. They have a heart attack. They can't afford Viagra or they get fucking busted.

Well, here's the thing is that my, my, my sex was, I could pick up chicks. I could get girls, regular squares, but I was fucking, you know, the village voice. It was nuts. What do you? I was doing shit I didn't need to do. You know what I mean? I didn't need to go. money and a prostitute.

I got addicted to the hunt. I got addicted to all that crazy shit. I love peep shows. Like anything, I went fucking overboard to where it was just consuming me. You got addicted to the intense weight before she showed up. You know what I mean? And when you saw her in the peep-all, yeah. You did peep-holes too?

No, not peep-hole. But when you look through the peep-hole in your door to let them in, you're like, oh, it's like, what am I going to get? What am I going to get? What am I going to get? And then, like, they're there. You know what I mean? Yeah, one of my cheating friends. I don't know if it was you, Robert or who it was told me that they loved when they went

to get a hooker that they didn't like just pay for one hooker. Like when they went to the place where the hookers were all standing around and you stand in the room and you get to like wait to see which one you want. And who was the person that. Did you tell me that that was your favorite way to pick up hookers? Well, I mean, I've done it all. So, you know, it was crazy. It was, you know, to sit, you'd have to sit there.

There's these places that you'd have to sit, and you'd have to wait until you saw the girl you liked, and you gave her a receipt in your hand. Right. But, you know, usually the girl you liked is the girl everybody wanted. So they'd be like five dudes running to this one Asian broad, you know what I mean? Right. So, you know, but there was so many different, look, back in my 20s,

there was so many different great sexual things. that I did and so many fucking deviant things that I did and places I went that I loved. I had a great time. I know. That's what when I read your book, it was like depressing because you, you know, you talked about it like it was amazing. It was, but it was amazing. But what happened is when it becomes something I don't want to do and I can't stop it.

when you can't control your own fucking is when you say I'm done that's it I'm never doing it again and then you find yourself in the same spot and it's the 15th time it's like fucking you're in a bad situation okay but let me ask you this like a person that quits drinking right like I always feel because I haven't I haven't drank it's now it's 11 years it just so the other day was 11 years I haven't drank but I feel like if I could drink in moderation I would If you could cheat in moderation, would you? If you could be the accidental tourist cheater, because you're an addict, right? You take everything to 150%.

So you're not capable of that, right? Just like you're not capable of drinking for that same fucking part of your personality. But other people could drink because they know how to be moderate. Like, do you believe that if you could be moderate with cheating, would you do it? I don't know. That's a good question. If I could be the accent of the tourist, if I could be the guy. Yeah, I mean, it depends because, you know, cheating has always looked at through one way.

You know, you never look through the eyes of the other person that falls in love with the cheater. Or the other guy that is married to the other one. Right. At this stage of the game, at 20, what am I going to do, catch a beating from some dude or some girl's going to break up with a guy she wasn't going to be with anyway? I mean, at this stage, again, people are going to lose houses and families, and kids are going to grow up without dad and moms. Yeah, the stakes are much higher. The stakes are fucking ridiculously high now.

But people still do it. People are doing it more in the marriage department because you just had a baby. They're not because they're not. Here's the thing. My wife has caught me with stupid shit on my computer. Okay. Like what kind of stuff? Like a photo.

Yeah. photo of someone you know or like someone that you're talking like a straight or just a porn or some girl sent me a photo or whatever or some weird porn shit that I was and she'll say look you gotta stop like she's she knows

that I'm an asshole she knows what my thing is and she knows it's not her it's not it's not it's not I don't like her or she did something wrong you know that's the problem

you know, usually when you get caught cheating by a girl, it's the girl's like, what did I do? Nothing. You didn't do anything. Most of the time, it's not even you. It's me. Right. You know, so.

But don't you think that there are, like, a lot of things that happen when people get married, right? Kids happen. You know, the true, Tori Spelling has a show on TV, and it's, like, so interesting to watch because her guy totally cheated on her. And she's got four kids, okay? And he's like, she wasn't giving him enough sex. And I think that that happens. Women are very different than men.

You know, and when they have kids and they have babies, I think a lot of times the woman doesn't give the guy as much sex as he wants because she doesn't need it that much. And that's like a big, that's just a big problem. And so the guys left like with the same sex drive that he has always. You know what I mean? The woman doesn't because she's not wired that way.

She's taking care of the kids. These guys are not getting laid. So then, you know, I knew one guy that was a cheater and he was married. And he loved to. wife I knew that it was just like strictly about the sex because she wouldn't give him sex like that was the right but I almost hit a guy sorry it's okay I'll let it that out I almost I almost hit this fucking guy uh to uh sorry but so you know I just got I just think that this guy this guy is pulling on the side of me that like give me the business the old macho male shit and I just said sorry and it took all the steam out of

That's the best thing, kill him with kindness. How did you do that through a window? I hear you. I stand up on. The guy that I was talking about the married guy. That's married 10 years.

I watched that show Dean and Torrey because of that. And it's interesting that here's this guy, good looking guy, you know. And you notice over the years, the only thing that's happened to him physically

is he's gotten, he's gotten cooler looking, okay? More tattoos, a beard. You got a little heavier, but, you know, he still looks great. And she's, she's been five different looks. And now she looks fucking anorexic. Well, because she's dealing with, like,

a lot of stuff. When you're skinny... I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I understand why. I don't care why. Right, right, I get it. But the point is, is that here's this guy. She must feel like shit inside. She does, yeah. And she must feel, you know, she knows that.

If I know that, you know that. So there's something that happened, you know, physically and with these guys that the sex shut the fuck off. And she said she's, here's the things too. I try to talk for you. I try to do stuff, weird stuff that you're into, you know, to make it. And it's like, that's a key thing. He's getting into weirder and weirder shit.

he's using sex to fill the hole of fucking loneliness. Right. And that's a dip for, that's like you. You're, you or that guy. When your sex, when yeah, exactly, exactly. When it gets deeper and deeper and deeper. And you're doing it for like when you say the chase and the hunt and the thing. You know, it was all, that's an addict.

That's an addict. But I don't think every guy that cheats had that same problem. And how did she find? out? The girl talked to a magazine. That sucks. Yeah.

And I just can't believe it's not like she doesn't realize he's probably done it a million times before. But the whole point is he's like you're kind of cheating. But like we said before, there's different levels and different kinds of cheaters. Your kind is like the worst besides the guy. But you had a little empathy and you were more in touch with your feelings. That's why you've crossed over to the other side. The guys that are like you that have no empathy and

No feelings will never cross over. And they'd fuck your sister. Like they'd fuck your sister when behind your back or your mother. It's like Wolf of Wall Street when he almost fuck the old lady, her aunt. Remember? Did you watch see that movie? I did. Yeah.

Yeah. When he's with the aunt and he sees a window or opportunity and he goes, he's like, I'll fucking go there. Why not? I know guys like that. Like they'd fuck anybody. You know? You're talking on the phone with one and you're sitting next to one. Right.

But no, but you said that you weren't that guy. You would have fucked. Girls and? You would have. You've done a Google search for the British granny. I've, I mean, that situation would be a tough, that'd be a tough situation. Well, all right. So then you were that kind of cheater.

Well, here's the thing. Yeah. If you have that much money, don't forget power. This guy's with so much power with so much. When you have fuck you money. You don't have to take shit from anybody. When you, when you have fuck you money. what are you going to do?

What are you going to do? Leave me. Go ahead. Here's 500 million. I'm still a billion. Whatever. It's again, get the fuck out. Oh, no, I know. Guys like that, you can't even,

they're so abnormal because they live such a different life. They really only represent like 1% of the population. But I think those guys should get some type of pass. They do have a pass. They don't give a fuck.

None of those people. They talk openly about it. Carl Lagerfeld, he's fascinating to listen to about cheating. He says like he feels sorry for common people. He understands why common people need porn. He doesn't need porn because he lives it in his life. He only sleeps with high class hookers because he doesn't find sex with someone that he cares about.

Interesting. And that's what he says. And he's got so much money that he could feel that way, believe that way, and live that way. Do you know what I mean? He's not like the normal people that have to feel that way and then but conform because we're like normal people. You know what I mean? I don't know how they live. I mean, I read that whole story about the whole thing they did on Gaddafi.

Imagine being that. You're so powerful and so wealthy. There's no such thing as porn. You just have a harem laying around at all the time. Oh, is that he had? He had like millions of women. He would just, anyone in the country he wanted would tap them on their head. And later on that evening, they'd be ready to rock and roll at his palace.

Yes, but I, but this is what I think is the difference between a Carl Lagerfeld who's open about it and talking about it. And he doesn't fuck around. and guys like you and Tommy and the guy that I know that's really super powerful is that you still have, you guys still have this desire, like as much as you feel that way, you still have this desire to like have a normal relationship and fall in love and that,

like, so you're like two people where Carl Lagerfeld is just like, that's who he is and he owns it and that's it. I don't think he's trying to have like a secret love affair with someone else and pretend he's a normal person. That's just the way that he fucking is. But even when I was with, I mean, even when I did weird shit, I never, I always liked the women that I was with.

I never just, I know guys that just banged chicks. I never just banged a chick. Any chick that I fucked, I love. What about you, Tommy? You just bang chicks sometimes. Yeah, I just fucked them. You know what I'm saying? I mean, no, I went.

That's because you, you know what it is, Robert? That's because you don't drink. If you drank, you would have had different kinds of cheating. Tommy was a drinker, so you could fuck people you don't like. I don't think it's who you are. at the core of you. I never, I always wanted, so I liked loving chicks.

I like sexy. Okay. Well then I got to, I gotta call you out though. But I got to call you out because of the beginning of this podcast you were saying that it was never about liking other people. You didn't give a shit.

It was just sex. It wasn't real, it wasn't like a real thing like I have with my wife. It was, um, but you created friendships though? Didn't you create friendships with some of the Friends, absolutely friendships, but there was this loving, there was a weird loving thing I had. I never not liked somebody I fuck. Right.

But I didn't, I didn't, I didn't like want to have them be my girl for them. You didn't have romantic feelings for them, but you like them. That's the worst. That's the thing. When I read articles like this guy that wrote this great article for Details Magazine about cheating, he talks about all the girls and he has relationships with them and he loves them and they're great and they laugh and they joke. and he values them in a different way. It's just another kind of relationship,

but they fulfill him, but he also has his wife and his kids and blah, blah, blah. Yeah, but I was really, I was really twisted, too, because of my, you know, because I was really fucked up sexually by women at a young age. Were you molested?

I was, yeah, you probably were molested. I was, I was a little dittled. I was dittled by a chick. Your ding ding ding ding. Someone diddled your ding ding ding. I got Uncle Fested. By a man or a woman?

I think by both. Probably. That's why you're into trannies and huggers. Hey, wait, you just keep saying trannies. Like, it's a fact. It is a fact. He never got to it. I don't know what you're talking about.

He never admitted it. Tommy, you admitted it. He never admitted it. Tommy, you admitted it. It happens. Tommy works in a gay bar. Have you ever seen a gay guy? No.

That was a slow no. That was a quick note. Come on. Okay, back to cheating, though. I know you have these great relationships. This is, as a woman, I'm just speaking from my woman brain. This is the part of it. And it's like what I read in your book.

And when I read that article and this guy talks about how he's, he has these amazing like one night moments with these women that he sees occasionally. And they laugh and they, you know, they have a great time and their friends and everything's cool. And like, that's the part of cheating that woman can't fucking stand. Because that is sort of a relationship. You know what I mean? Well, yeah, it is.

But they, but women, women, look it. Women want a future. We need stability and we need strong. We need someone take care of our babies. You want you, you guys are looking fucking down the road at, you know, the house, the baby, the yard, and being 60. You guys are looking at looking back at your life when you're 70 or 80 going, Hi, hi, honey. You know, we're looking at fucking.

five minutes from now. Right. You're touching our dicks. But as a reformed cheater, now you're looking at, oh, you're 60. Do you think realistically, Robert, don't worry, your wife was never going to listen to this podcast. So you answer honestly.

I love how you always say that. I always say that to everybody. She says that to everybody. Don't worry. No one's going to listen to this. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I'm not worried about my wife. Listen, I'm worried about her friends, cousin, friends. I can't believe your husband. Okay, but my question to you is, you know,

how long you've been with your wife? We've been married for seven years. I've known her for almost 20. I don't care. How long have you been faithful for? Jesus Christ, I've got to do math now. Yeah. I don't know.

It's got to be like 12, I don't know, 12 years, 10 years? 12 years you've been faithful? No. Maybe 10, 10, 10, 10. You have not been faithful for 10 years. I've been sober for 10 years. 11. You didn't get caught.

You got caught 10 years ago? I don't know, but that's what I'm saying. So move on. Oh, okay. You see, nobody's going to do your show. Nobody's going to do your show. It's supposed to be anonymous, first of all. Yeah.

I'm not anonymous. Second of all, you're telling people I went with trannies, and you're telling people I cheated last week. No, you didn't cheat. No, no, no. No, first of all, you're cheating on your wife with documents. Why don't you just give everybody his cell phone number? No, I am not outing you if you're cheating.

The minute your wife caught you, she, everyone knows when she caught you. You know that. No, no. Nobody, first of all, Nobody does. I've never really talked about it. Oh. And I'm kind of talking about it and not with you, but you're like... You want me to delete it?

You want me to delete this? No, I don't care, but you're being like fucking... A nod and an anchor. Okay, sorry. He's just being like a Nazi about it. Nobody's going to want to do your show from very good when I hear this episode. Just say that 10 times so you could really talk them into it. No, I don't think anything's wrong with it.

I'm just saying, I just wonder if you think it's... realistic that if you're with your wife, I call it marriage math. You take like the age you are now, minus, no, you take the age you think you're going to die and you minus it from the age you get married and you, whatever that number is, that's the amount of years you're going to be with the same person. Do you think realistically

as a man that your dick could just be, like your dick stops here? Like that's it. Like that's the end. Like, no more. Does my dick stop here? Yeah, does your dick stop here? I just want to know. Do you think that that's a realistic? thing for a guy. If you die when you're like

87, right? You know, you know, it's a weird, it's a weird thing. When I met you know, I met certain guys in my life, I've met like Louis I met when he was married. Louis, who? Louis C.K.? Yeah. And I remember talking him about he was married and he had kids and I was like, oh man, that's awesome because

maybe there's hope. Like you're kind of like me. He's a comic and on the road and he's, you know, whatever. And now, you know, he's, you know, he's, you know, He's divorced years. He's got a new girlfriend. He's what was, I mean, it's like, I don't fucking know. I know, and his divorce material is like off the charts funny. So it's like, I don't fucking know.

I don't know. I'm happy. I'll tell you right now, I just left my house up in Westchester. You know, my kid was holding his own bottle, slowly fading to sleep. And then I leaned in and gave him a kid. and gave my wife a kiss, and I was the happiest I've been ever. You know what I mean?

I mean, the feeling of happiness was tangible, like sex used to be, like a blowjob used to be. Now, I'm not saying it's as exciting as that or as as dangerous as that, but it was as tangible. It's more real. It fulfills you more.

Those little things that you, all that shit that you used to do, you were chasing the dragon. It's no different than an alcoholic because you were second at it. No? You have, I have to keep that, I have to keep connected to that. The hard part is staying connected to that.

To what? To that emotion of my wife and kissing my wife and kids and keeping that connected to me. Because I've learned to disconnect to those emotions because people fail me or leave me or, you know, whatever. I get arrested or people, you know, blah, blah. The people on, boy, they say they work. I have to stay connected to these things. Right. And the more you do that, the easier it is to just be in your life, which is my famble.

You know what I mean? Uh-huh. So I think that if you ask me right now today, I would say, yes, I'm good. Right, because you know what? It's like quitting drinking. If someone said to me, Kathy, do you think you're not going to drink for the next 80 years when? And you don't think of it that way. You just take it.

It's like every day. You just, you don't think, like, because if you think that far in advance, It's like so overwhelming. You know what I mean? Yes. Yes. It's very overwhelming. Right. So you don't, you just take it day by day.

But let me ask you this. Do you, are you, like I'm sure you have a lot of guy friends and a lot of them cheat? Like, what is your view on cheating? Since you know that there's different levels of cheating, do you think cheating is bad for people like you, but okay for other people? Because I think most people cheat. I think, look, if you're going to cheat, you're going to cheat. I don't, I don't really hold people accountable for that stuff because it's, it's, you're be like me judging somebody because they're drinking or that's the way I look at it or they

they got to quit drinking or who the fuck am I to say you need to stop you know I want your opinion though I just want your opinion I think if somebody is cheating and I'm always kind of shocked to his oh really yeah I don't I don't have a problem with it I really don't because if that's what you're doing if that's where you're at as an adult That's okay. That's like someone who goes to strip clubs. I don't get it. But go ahead.

Go to a strip club. Yeah. Some guys are either really into that or just totally not. You were never into it? I don't get it. I'd rather spend $100 and have a middle-aged Asian lady jerk me all. Isn't that awesome? Do you think that, wait, let me ask you this,

because certain people think different things are cheating. You know what I mean? And some things not. I had a guy call. It was like, one of my. favorite calls recently and he went on to Craigslist and he didn't want to cheat on his wife so he did everything but like fuck people but he would finger people he gave women naked massages he watched other couples have sex and they blew him but he didn't feel like he cheated I swear to God he

he did all of this because he was Christian and he couldn't cheat it was fascinating and I know that in his mind he believed it do you know what I mean yeah he's out of his fucking mind yeah you said Christian it all made sense he was yeah he was yeah He was totally Christian and he couldn't cheat But this is what he did No, God doesn't see your finger sticking your finger Where babies are supposed to come out

Right Exactly God would actually be like more You know what I'd rather see the thing I invented To go in a vagina That instead of the thing I invented to eat with No but like I had a friend

He was a massive cheater And I said to him once Because he was like You know bringing a girl to live with him And I said you know listen If you're going to cheat Because he's like Not going to be able to not cheat

I'm like if you're going to cheat, do it outside of your state, do it with hookers, do a, you know, a rub and tub or what is that called, you know, and that's it. That's like it, that is acceptable cheating, I think. But then, you know, a lot of times it just leads to other things, right? Don't you, do you think that that kind of cheating is okay? I don't look. I think you can't say cheating's okay because there's no way to say that and be right. Right. You can't, there is a way of cheating where there's less collateral damage.

Right. You understand? There are acts of cheating where people aren't going to get hurt where you don't have to blow up everybody's fucking life. Right. You're not like walking in with a time bomb strapped to your chest like a terrorist. And so I would say an Asian massage parlor is a low risk cheat. So you can go there and they're going to give you a massage. And for $100, which isn't going to break the bank

or take food out of the kid's mouth, you know, you're going to jizz in some chick's hand. She's going to play with your asshole and give you a great massage. So, yeah, that's a low risk. Okay, are you going to fucking hook up with the neighbor? Yeah, that's a bomb. That's high risk. You're going to blow up the fucking neighborhood with that one.

Right. You know what I mean? But a lot of people nowadays, Robert, like Dan Savage, you know, he calls it monogamish. He's in a relationship with a guy and they fuck other people and they're really open about it. And a lot of people nowadays, and I think younger people are more open to it or they don't believe a monogamy. Like a lot of people don't believe a monogamy. You think it's like something, you know, and it seems very...

I think that, look, I'm, I can't say it because I'm choosing to be in a monogamous relationship. Right. I am in a traditional relationship. So, but I, it's like a gay marriage. or a gay relationship, a non-monogamous relationship in the future, I don't see it a bad thing. I think, you know,

people who are, have open marriages, you know, it's all self-esteem. It's all based on, you know, look, I don't know if you ever fuck two guys at once.

No. But if you, are you fucked two girls at once? One of those girls is going to be pissed. Really? Yeah, it always happens in the way. What do you mean? Why?

Because you don't pay attention to one or something? It's usually the one that you know already because you're too much into the new one because you haven't seen her pussy. And, you know, it's all based on, you know, it's all based on self-esteem. And is sex, what is sex to you? Is it a commitment? Is it a contract? You know, some people, sex is sex. And that's it.

Right. And that's why people that have open relationship is fine. I heard this girl talking on a podcast and she said she was in an open relationship. and it was cool and her and her and her guy were that way, but then she said, he was telling me a story and the girl, he got a little bit too much into the fact of how much he kind of liked her and he started to bother me.

So it's like it gets really confusing, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, it's, look, I'm telling you right now. It's a confusing, holy shit, and religion's involved in it. Forget about it.

It's a fucking nightmare. And we're brought up and we're raised, differently. Women and girls are raised differently with sex and men and then in our teens we're all fucked up about it. Sex is, I mean, cheating is worse for women than it. Like, cheating affects women

worse. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it really does. Like, it... I don't know. I disagree because I have some friends that were married and it was the other way around and the wife cheated on them and I've just seen them destroyed. Oh yeah, no, I'm saying, but in the majority

because men like have this now. urge to just like plant their seat all over and they're just less monogamous by they're not monogamous by nature they're just not like robert kelly you you're going against your nature to be monogamous it's it's hard for you it's not hard for a woman to be monogamous most of the time if a woman cheats it's because you know because sex isn't they were brought sex they weren't brought up to fuck them all i mean we don't even have that we're not it's not even nature in nature we can't fuck them all we get our we get a one egg like you don't mean we're just we're as an animal we're not just our urge is not to fuck a million people it's just it's just not there in nature even though you like i believe women have like hardcore sex drives and we want to fuck around and stuff like i've i've loved sex it's not that but it's like it's not hard for me to be monogamous i'm monogamous by nature i'm monogamous by nature but men aren't and that's the problem like that's but women

want them to be because it kills us. There's no end to this topic. This is such a fucking never-ending maze of confusion because sex is so amazing. Sex with new people is so amazing. But having a family and loving somebody is fucking just as amazing. So it's a fucking, it's a nightmare to try to figure it out. So you, my rule is pick aside and go with it. Right.

You pick a fucking path and you go down it. Whether that's being a totally monogamous like you or being the accidental tourist cheater or being, I'll take an Asian girl every now and then. Because, and here's the thing, sex is not, when you get in your 40, sex is not that valid. not that important. Do you agree, Tommy? You're not 40 yet, are you? No, I'm 38. Why, in your 40s, sex got not that interesting to you?

You know what got interesting to me? What it got interesting to me is, you know, sitting in the back, it sounds corny as shit, man. I sat in the backyard today with an ice coffee reading a book. I felt like my grandfather. And I was like, oh, my God, I am so enjoying. the bird's chirping, the fucking trees, the sound of the fucking wind, and I'm reading this fucking, and it's like, this is stupid. Yeah, no, Robert, I totally agree with you.

I mean, every year, I appreciate things like that that have nothing to do. Like, you know, when I was, when I was teenager through my 20s, everything I did, every decision I made in my 20s was based around how and when is this going to get me laid. Right. Right. Like, I'm going to get this job. Am I going to make enough money so I can go get laid, buy clothes that will help me get laid, pay for me to go to fucking places with hotter people that I can fuck.

You know what I mean? Right. That's what it was. But now, you know, 38, I'm married now going on two years, got a one-year-old. I have more joy going to a park with my one-year-old just started walking and watching him be able to function and climb on things. It's just like it blows me away, you know? life when you get older can change in a day you know and when you have a kid too my life from the the night he came out of her veg my life hasn't been the same i 100% agree with you and there's

no going back right you definitely wouldn't fit back up there you can't put him back in but it's it's it's it's it's it's fucking weird and now like i went out today and i fucking put grass seed in and then i sat and read a book under a fuck on a chair and then i i i grilled fucking tips lamb tips for my my family it's like who the fuck is this that's crazy shit though i used to hang out until four in the morning you know i try to get pussy or i'd looking at hookers. Right, but I really think, like, you and Tommy, like, to your guys' credit, or, like, more evolved,

maybe I think that there's some guys that are like you guys before that will never reach that point of really understanding that all that other stuff is better, and they're just going to chase the dragon because instant gratification is so much fucking easier. It just is. I think the girl, we're very, we're very lucky with the women that we wound up with.

Yeah, totally. Right. I say to my act all the time, love is when you find a woman that accepts you for the piece of shit that you are. Right. Like she really knows you. She knows who you were and she knows who you are. Unfortunately, you know how you said you clean the slate? Yeah.

I never do that. I'm still, I'm too afraid. I got to be real. Okay. So I'm too, I like what you said. Clean the slate and you'll never know. That's the best thing in the world. I'm too afraid of showing her the slate before I wash it.

Yeah, you shouldn't. She would be like, you fucking disgusting animal. Don't even. Yeah, don't. Yeah. You don't clean the slate. I'm still like, I'm still back on Cheater 101 being like, that never happened. Deny, deny, deny, deny, deny.

Yeah, you don't, you don't clean the slate. You were forced to. The bomb blew off. You understand? A bomb exploded on me. I did some rookie moves and the dominoes fucking fell. But there was nothing better in my life. And the sun came out and the clouds parted.

And the heavy burden was off my fucking shoulders. It's like when you talk like that reminds me of like when I quit drinking, I felt like I was sucked out of a black hole, you know, somehow saved. I was like swirling around in this world of nothingness that so many people are still in. And I was, like, sucked out. And I came into another place that was, like, so much better. But, no, but I agree. I mean, when my wife got back together with me when we were dating.

And I thought, you know, and she had suspicions or whatever that we broke apart and blah, blah, blah. But I sort of kind of cleaned this slate and said, listen, I'm making a commitment to you in this day. And, you know, I stuck to it. And you know what? Like you said before, you got to choose a path, whatever path it may be. And I chose the path, you know? And you've been really good, Tommy. Yeah, no, I've been...

And you were like a really bad cheater. I knew you'd be a very bad cheater. I've been 100%. And listen, I'm not saying it's easy. It definitely has those days when you go out and you see some girl with her fucking panties hanging out and you're just like, ugh, you know? Yeah, but that's, I mean, to be honest...

And that goes away within five minutes, you know? Yeah, it's... You know, that doesn't bother me as much as, you know, look, you own a bar. I'm on the road. And there's a fucking, you know, a chick is like, hey, I know your life. I don't give a shit. I want to fucking suck your dick.

Yeah, I run away. Yeah, I mean, it's like, holy shit. All right, you know that you know, yeah, I don't care. I just want to suck it. Yeah, no, I run away. That'd be one expensive blowjob. Yeah. It's a, look, it's a fucking, here's the thing, though.

Life is life. You know, we say all this horse shit right now. And in two years, Kathy could be happily married to some asshole. And me and you are both fucking divorced because we got caught sucking each other's cock. Yeah. And we're drinking in your studio calling Kathy up being like, come over and show us your tits. Yeah. Yeah, we have a fucking new podcast to two bald fat queers.

So who the fuck knows? You know, sex. Yeah, you know what we were missing on this call? I think for it to be more like we needed a full-fledged cheater who believes in you know there's so many men feel that way like it's just the way that it is they would never

stop they feel like it's natural they know it means nothing and that's just the way that it is like you know what I'm saying it's like we don't have that voice yeah you don't and uh you're not getting it out of me or Tommy no I know you guys are very similar because I know you both and you're both that same

way you know that's the guy that like you know that we I have callers that are those kind of guys, you know what I mean, and just doing what they're doing, you know. Well, but here's the thing, though, is when, you know, we're not, we're not anonymous either. So, right. It's like, you know, you got, there's somebody out there that will, it listens to this, and will call up in an anonymous way and fucking be able to, you know, hey, I fucking, I do that.

And my name is fucking, you know, my name is, you know, bark tree. Right. I wish people use that name, Bark Tree. Right. Yeah. It's like you said, this is a never-ending conversation

that could just go on and there's no solution. As a woman, I hate the cheating thing. I hate monogamy. I hate all of it. It's hard because I just, I know, like, logically,

like, that's just what a lot of guys do and a lot of guys cheat. I also know, though, that there's plenty of guys that don't cheat and just would never cheat. And just would never. You know what I mean? There is that guy, too.

There are 10% of the men out there. are those kind of guys. Yeah, but you say that you don't believe in monogamy, but I bet you if you met a guy that you were completely in love with, you would be one, I bet you'd probably be one of the most faithful partners. I am. When I say I don't believe in it,

I don't believe that it's possible. This is my biggest fear. I hate it. I am very monogamous and I'm very loyal, but I would want someone to give me that. And unfortunately, because I'm very, like, in tune with stuff, like I could tell when someone's fucking lying. I could tell when someone's a cheater.

Would you understand if someone, someone cheated on you? It really depends on the situation. It's happened to me. It has. And we're like, it's okay. I don't believe in monogamy anyway. No, no, but I've had open relationships.

I had those kind of relationships. I tried those things when I was younger. And I could only do it when I was drinking because it doesn't go. My whole point of monogamy is I don't believe in it. But in my lifetime, because of the way that I was raised, it bothers me. Cheating bothers me. I'll never, I would have to die and come back in a different time to not feel that way. So that's my problem with it.

I know it exists. I know too much that it exists. So there's most guys do it. A lot of the hot guys do it. Do you know what I mean? Like some guys don't cheat because they couldn't. Yeah. Did you,

have you done it? Have I cheated? Yeah. Yes. All right. So you're a cheated too. No. Well, I cheated in a different way.

I cheated on like, like I cheated to get like confident. Like I cheated because like I was being treated like shit in a relationship. Like, you know, but I cheated once because a guy cheated. I was. But I would never cheat now. I only could cheat when I was drinking. And I didn't do it like for the sex. I did it to get the other guy back.

I remember my sister pointed out. I love that. I love that we all have. I didn't cheat and I like the women that I cheated. I never cheated. I don't know what you're talking about. We all have a little things why we cheat. I would have like, you know, I would have a guy that I like, but I'd have to have five backup guys.

and I realized that my fucking other guys while I liked somebody was like, for me it was a way to get more security in a situation. That's what it was for me. You know what I mean? I could look back and realize what it was. It was like a weakness. So I don't do that anymore.

I'm 11 years sober. I'm like really a different person. So I could like a guy, have one guy. I don't go and fuck another guy when I'm feeling uncomfortable about that relationship. But a lot of people cheat for those reasons. You know what I mean? Right.

You know, it's like something that makes you feel whatever. So this is a conversation that goes on and on and we need to wrap up this call. I love you for calling in and being so honest. It's a very interesting topic. I hope you get a cheater live. A real cheater to call back. I want a real-time cheater to call up. Right. And give the other side of it. That's what I want. You know, I want the guy who's cheating, who's going to cheat, who's never going to stop,

and who doesn't think it's bad. and believe, you know what I mean? Because that guy exists. A lot, I think you and Tommy are a little bit more evolved than most people. I don't think you guys are the majority. I think the majority are the guys that would cheat if they could cheat or they do cheat. And they don't think it's that big of a deal because they love their girls and that's the deal. And I want to hear from those guys.

Those guys suck, but they exist. And I want to hear from that kind of guy. Anyway, all right. Thank you, Robert. Thanks for calling in. See you later, Robert. Good talking to you. All right.

I'll talk to you guys. Bye. Bye. Okay, Tom I think that was great You know, I really do But did we Once again, we should drop our email again

When you hear this Because we didn't really do it in the beginning I don't think I'm going to air that other podcast I haven't had to this because this is a long call Yeah, so it's strictly anonymous podcast At gmail.com And we're looking for a cheater Yeah, we're looking for a cheater

But we're not just, you know, anything goes We want to hear from you We want to know what's going on and you got to email us strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com and you could be on the show and we could have this conversation like I said I want to it's a conversation that could go on but I want like a different because you and Robert are kind of similar yeah that's why I mean it was kind of a you know a loaded on our side type of viewpoint you know what I mean because we are similar yeah you know married family we don't cheat anymore we were hard core cheaters no we were you know listen we were we were we were we were party animals. You were cheating out of like addictive kind of thing. Yeah, but we were running wild in the city, and we had money, and we had access to a lot

of things. And, but now, you know, we're at a different place in our life. But we would love, we want to hear from someone who's still doing that, who's still running wild. We need that voice because that was, that's what was missing on this podcast. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And besides that, also, you know, if you have anything else, not just the cheating thing

that you want to chime in, you've got to let us know. We want to get you on. we're looking to really expand the podcast and put more shows out on a daily basis. Right. So even if it's not like somebody that has a problem, it's something, some topic you want to talk about. That's interesting. Yeah, absolutely. Sex or love kind of topics.

And how we always say in every podcast, something that you, you know, you can't talk to about your friends or you're obviously not going to talk with about your partner. Talk to with your partner. Something that you need to be anonymous for. And just kind of get it off your chest because it always feels good, you know, to get it off your chest and talk to somebody about who's been there and done that. And, you know, if you just talk about it and get it off your chest, that's great. If we give you a little advice, that's the bonus. Kathy's good at giving advice.

Right. You've been good on it. You've been really good. That's what I love to do. Is give advice? Yeah. That's why I have this podcast. I really like it.

No, I know. That's why we've been sitting here for months. That's why you're friends with me for so long. Tommy, I would only get. Like, I told you this. the other day. Tommy and half of my friends, most of my guy friends, the narcissists that they are, I get the best part of them when they're down in the fucking dumps. Who do they come to? Good old Kathy. She doesn't hold punches and she'll tell you when your face is dirty and she'll say,

listen, you fucked up, man. And I give good advice and you all call me when you're down in the dump. And when you're happy, I don't hear from you. Because, yeah, because you know. You don't need me. Yeah, but we all have those friends that even when we're down the dumps, we call. them they're always going to be on your side which is great you want friends but you also need those friends like kathy because i'm not always on your side she's not on your side she's going to she's going to tell you how it is right so call into the show if you need that kind of advice yep strictly anonymous podcast at gmail dot com and also look uh like us on facebook and twitter um it's uh strict uh strict uh strict anonymous what is it at strict strict anonymous uh definitely i mean

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Okay. Talk to you next week. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said,

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And finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you get into my Discord. any other way than getting the link from me. Okay. I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do there. You could post

your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private. Like I said, all you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord.

So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. This is the strictly anonymous podcast. Have a story, lifestyle, or lifestyle. situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Strictly anonymous.