Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 026 - Billy Bob is Dating an Ex-Escort and it's Not Going Very Well
Episode Date: June 8, 2014Billy Bob is 52, unhappily married and he's crazy in love with a former escort. She started out as his escort, then they started dating and now he wants to leave his wife for her. The problem is, he ...thinks she might be escorting again and her suspicious behavior is making him crazy. Is she telling the truth or is she up to her old tricks again? Listen in to hear all the details and then you can decide for yourself. Please note, Billy Bob requested that we distort his voice a bit so he would be unrecognizable. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast.
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You go to Singapore or Thailand.
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Hey, welcome to strictly anonymous podcast with Kathy and Tommy.
How you doing?
Yeah, welcome the Strickland Anonymous podcast.
I would like to, can I start off with the, we, I always hound you.
I feel like I'm like hawking everybody.
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Craigslist keeps deleting my ads.
They're on to me.
I love for listeners to call.
I like when listeners call in.
I mean, people that are listening,
if you have,
it's not just for people that have problems.
What I put in my ad now is like people
that are also just have these like secret lives
that they have no one to talk to about.
Absolutely.
And I love how,
Craigslist deletes our ads, but yet you can get fucking tranny hookers and midgets delivered to your house.
It's not about us personally.
With cocaine.
Yeah.
It's not about us personally.
They just track your IP address and everything.
It's like they have companies set up actually where you could pay to have your Craigslist.
It's called ghosting.
And they ghost everybody after you post a lot.
It's just what happens.
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review we're fucking awesome rock it out yeah yeah you should see a review we got on
facebook recently was it good for you yes just so you know tell me tell me don't talk
anymore I save everything no I don't even want to read it yet I'm so no because you I
really should read it at the end of the podcast why so you can just give me good vibes and
split honestly I really read it what yeah exactly because you leave and once again I have to
make the announcement we are we are taping live here
in New York City at Times Square.
Not many people in their podcast can say that.
Okay, right, because we're at Tommy's house again.
Yeah, Times Square.
You don't want to promote them.
Not yet.
I don't think I'm ready.
Okay.
So this is the thing.
I only get bad reviews.
People only say bad things about me and everyone loves you.
I can't believe that.
Swear to God.
This is my, I'm in shocked face.
You're not in shock.
Are you being sarcastic?
You can't see me on the podcast right now.
Are you?
I am so shocked face.
Are you being sarcastic?
Never.
You're not?
No.
You're blown away that all these people love you and hate me.
Sarcasm is not a second language.
I'm going to talk about celebrities because I'm looking through, I took a picture of the posting.
Okay.
Because I wanted to read it to you and I wanted to find it.
But now that I'm going through my pictures, I see a picture.
Guess who that is?
There's a picture of a girl with a tacky soft that you've ever seen.
I've never seen such a tacky outfit that I had to look like who is.
You know who that is?
Who is that?
Who is that?
V. Stiviano.
That one.
I know I'm not supposed to talk.
Dude, that bitch got a beat down.
Wait.
Did you hear about that?
No, her face was fine, but she had.
Good.
No, but whatever.
She was, I saw her in Zara.
And she had on, wait, she had on this outfit.
It was like a see-through top with a panties, like big granny panties and a bra with the, like, she had socks with like flip flops.
I mean, it was like the worst outfit.
Yeah, because she's in recovery right now.
She's got, she's in recovery right now.
Okay.
She got her head kicked in.
She didn't look.
Her face looked normal.
I mean, she had bad skin, but her face looked normal.
She looked exactly like she looks on TV.
But I don't know what she was doing in Zara.
Yeah, I don't agree with them beating her up and giving her a racial slur.
I think just a- Is that what happened?
Yeah, I just think just a handsome beat down and then running away without saying anything would have been appropriate.
Yeah, like, you know, it's like ridiculous.
But she's such a trouble starter.
But anyway, we're not talking about celebrities.
No, we're talking about Jamie Shell.
Jamie Chelle.
No, we're talking about the review.
No, Jamie Chelle.
That's who wrote it.
I'm outing her.
What's her name?
Because I hate her.
Go fuck yourself, Jamie Chell.
Jamie.
She doesn't mean that.
She just wants to bang you or something.
thing.
I swear I got to wait until you here.
Okay, go ahead.
So I swear, okay, listen, I'm not sure if anyone has said this yet, but the first few
episodes where you were chewing gum was insanely cringe-worthy.
I was excited for the show.
You're a chomper.
Wait, I was excited for the show, but I had to skip through to the next episode, dot, dot,
only to find out you were chewing gum on that episode as well.
Then you go on to explain you have a disorder which heightens irritation to people's
chewing noises, et cetera.
I absolutely think you guys are onto something
on this podcast.
Please stop putting down your co-host.
It's very unbecoming and he is the star.
Yes.
His voice is soothing and refreshing.
How's this for refreshing?
Just my two cents.
Love the idea though.
Keep it up.
Thanks, Jamie, you fucking cunt.
Jamie, what's her lesson?
I guess she could say nice things about her,
but all she says is mean, like first of all,
if she would have listened to that podcast with the chewing gum,
there was a reason, which I'm not going to explain now again and go into
that. Jamie Chelle, do you want to see her if she's cute?
I would like to see her picture.
You can't really see it. It's a picture of that posting.
I think it's amazing.
Whatever.
Jamie Chelle, I think you're wonderful.
Jamie Chelle, Tommy ever gets divorced,
will fix you up with him because you're obviously sucking up to him.
And please.
Suck up.
Keep listening.
You know, I know my co-host should be hard to handle sometimes.
They're just hanging in there.
How could you be the star?
I uncover the onions that call.
I peel back the layers.
If we left, this is what my sister said to do.
Let's just do a next pot.
this podcast because this guy's confusing.
Our next podcast, I'm going to have one because I have a girl calling in who's an
escort agency one.
I'm going to let you lead the call.
You be the star like she thinks you are.
Really, you're like that's what she thinks you are.
I'm going to let you be the star.
I'm going to let you run the whole podcast.
Jamie, thanks for giving me the opportunity.
My time to shine.
Yeah, the time for, and I'm going to try and be sealing today.
How that?
Oh my God, that's kind of hot.
That is nice.
I know.
I know.
I know.
Fuck off.
Can you turn your air conditioning on.
Seriously.
I will.
I will.
it on. So I'm going to read, anyway, Jamie Shell, shout out to you. Thanks for the, thanks for the
email. Thanks for listening. I will never chew gum again, and I'll try to be more soothing to.
So we have on a guy today. This is actually a guy that we read his email in the past because he
didn't want to call into the show. And we gave advice, but I think this was one of them that
we needed more information. He's the guy that's dating the escort. This is his email. We're going to
call him Billy Bob.
Okay.
Billy Bob. Okay. Hello. I'm a 50. He let me name him. Okay. Okay. I call him Billy Bob.
Hello, I'm a 51 year old male. Unhappily married. I've been dating a 23, four year old
escort lady for over a year. We're both head over heels and love with each other. Remember this guy?
We've been making plans to make our relationship legit. When I met her, she was an escort,
and I was her client. Our relationship quickly grew serious. She soon got out of the business,
left her BF boyfriend and started dating me exclusively. We've had our ups and downs,
but can't seem to live without each other. She's messed up time and again, but I have always forgiven
her. Recently, she's been working two part-time jobs. She went out to dinner with a set of coworkers
and took some pictures. The pictures she sent me were innocent pictures of coworkers having fun and drinks.
Unfortunately, I later found pictures that she didn't show of that night, one young man with his
hands cupping her breasts. Another picture of her in a deep embrace, smiling like she was in heaven.
When I confronted her about it, she denied it over and again.
Later, she admitted she was attracted to this young man.
The story gets worse.
I don't know how much to disclose at this time, but that's the small picture.
I've been completely honest and faithful to her.
I've been making plans to get a divorce and marry her.
But by now I'm torn in too.
Okay.
So that was a while ago.
So obviously probably things have moved on and things are still going.
Yeah.
I love that how he says he's faithful to her, but he's married.
I mean, I don't.
He just sounds like an old guy.
I was only cheating on my wife with her.
No, he just sounds so whipped to her.
Like, you know what I mean?
And I mean, tell me if I'm wrong.
But how could someone, if you're dating an escort,
are you shocked she's cheating on you?
You know what I mean?
Here's a woman that would sell her snatch for money, okay?
Right.
And you're convinced that all of a sudden she's going to be,
you know, happy housewife or, you know, the best girlfriend.
Right. I don't think he's thinking that way.
I think he's thinking with his dick.
Well, of course he's thinking with his dick.
Or his ego.
It's more than his dick, right?
Because it's got to be his ego too or something because she's 24.
Like God knows what she does, but this is what we have to find out.
Because I remember what our advice was to him was just like don't do an escort.
But we need more information in this kind of situation.
Yeah, you've got to tell us a little more stuff.
Like the whole story.
Like why would he take her seriously to begin with?
You know what I mean?
And is he married?
Does he have kids?
You know, why?
Why are you going to leave your whole whatever for an escort?
I don't get it.
But you never know.
She might be able to do that thing with her hands that the Asian ladies do.
Oh, the double hands?
At the massage parlor?
The double hand thing?
When they jerk you off.
I have a friend that always say he was always talking about at hand jobs.
I'm like, who likes hand jobs?
But he's like there's something about two hands that a mouth and nothing could ever do.
They do it and it makes it feel like you're actually having sex with something.
Really?
The Asian.
Can you teach me how to do that?
I don't know how to do it.
What do you mean?
Yes, my eyes are closed when they did it.
Oh, but it felt that way.
That's what it felt like.
Sometimes a man will use his finger on you, on the outside of your clit, and it feels like a tongue.
Some guys know how to do that.
Guys know how to do that with their hand, too.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Do you know that move?
That's a move.
When you've ever gone for a massage, have you ever had a happy ending?
No, but a friend of mine has, a woman friend of mine.
Had a Chinese man to finger her, I think.
Was she like, down?
She came.
Wow.
Yeah, but she shops at the men's gap.
so apparently she's got more issues than the fingering Asian man.
She told me recently, I used to work with her,
she told me recently she doesn't shop at men's gap anymore.
Kelly, I've grown by leaps and bounds.
I no longer shop at men's gap.
But I think that that's the only kind of woman that would let a Chinese man finger her.
Like, you know what I mean?
Unless you're Chinese and he's your husband.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, I don't think many women need a happy ending at a massage place, but you know.
I don't know.
That is a, you know what?
If you're a woman who would like more happy endings when you get a massage, send us an email.
Or no, if you're a woman that goes and has been done.
Do they even have women places?
There's got to be.
What about women for women?
Ooh.
You know what I mean?
Hers was a guy.
What about women that went to a massage place thinking it's a legit massage place, but it was an Asian lady.
And she like, because do they give you warning that they're going to do something sexual to you?
Well, usually, because I don't frequent these places.
Oh, I have to ask you.
a question. Back when I was in my 20s? Wait, can I ask you a question? Okay. Me and this is, you could be very
honest. Is it incriminating? Yeah, your wife's not listening. Because this is a really serious question
I have for you. You have to be very honest. Me and Tommy once went to a Russian banja. Yes.
Together. The baths. Yeah, the Russian baths in the city together. We're talking many, many,
many years ago. You were not even close to being married. And you went in the back when we were
going to change and go leave because you know you're in your bathing suit the whole time. Yep. You
stayed in that back room for a really long time.
And I wondered to myself,
you know, we're just friends,
but you didn't tell me anything.
Like, did you go in that back room,
in that Russian back room, Bonya, please?
Do they give you massages
with happy endings in that place?
No, absolutely not.
They don't have that going on.
There's no way.
I can stand hand to God.
Yeah.
Not that, those places are old school.
I mean, that place has been there.
Old school.
So hooking is old school.
You know, yes, you're correct.
The hooking is probably the oldest profession.
I'm being soothing.
Very soothing.
Okay.
But no, that place is very traditional.
Meaning they don't have.
They don't do that because there's also a lot of orthodox men that go there,
which really doesn't mean anything these days.
Oh, when I worked in bars, orthodox, the curly keys used to always come in.
But yeah, no, they don't do it.
Actually, probably, we used to take my time, long shower.
They had another steam in there and, you know, really get ready.
Oh, oh, but so there weren't giving massages back there.
There wasn't like a Russian prostitute.
And in the men's locker room at the Russian places,
because it's a lot of, you know, underworld guys that go there.
And they cater to the men.
So all the accoutrements of getting ready were always laid out.
One thing I got to say about that place.
I didn't want to go.
I would clean my ears and shave and, you know, pluck my nose hairs,
put on after shave, wipe some cream on my face, you know, play with everything.
After you're all done.
was cool. Like there's all these fat
hairy Russian men and like
towels eating sardines and drinking
vodka. And then you go into the
hottest sauna. It's not even a normal.
It's so hot. Remember Tommy I left?
Yeah. And then you were embarrassed to be with me.
No, this is what happened.
She's a quitter. I went into the room and there's all these
people in a room that like there's a sign
on the door that says like you might die in here.
It's really is. Like there's a warning.
It's written in Russian. There's a warning
that you could potentially die in here. It's so hot.
of shit. And I went in and I was like,
there is no way I could stay in here. I couldn't
breathe. But you announced it to everybody.
Yes, of course. I was,
unsuiting as Mrs.
Chelle would say.
Mrs. Shell would have said something?
What did she call me? What was the word that she
used that was like, uh, cringe worthy?
I was acting cringe worthy in the room in front of everybody.
And Tommy was so embarrassed that he walked out.
And then,
and then I went into the regular sauna that was regular hot.
And then a guy that worked there came in and he coaxed me to go back.
and he knew how to work with me.
He was cool.
He was a Banya specialist.
Yeah, he got me back in the Banya,
and I stayed in the room for 10 minutes.
I didn't die.
Then I jumped in the cold water.
And then once I did it,
and we did it for 10 times,
it was seriously the most amazing thing I've ever.
I don't know why torturing yourself
makes you feel calm and relaxed,
but afterwards, remember we were after we got out of that place?
You feel like you float.
You don't even feel like your water or you're walking.
You just got fucked, massaged,
what everything that may
high everything that makes you feel relaxed
it feels like you did that all
and you just feel like a pile of mush
it's so relaxing
torturing yourself
you go from really hot to really cold
really hot to really cold
and you feel amazing afterwards
yeah skin's great too
maybe that's why all those Russian people look good
I mean the Russian women are really so beautiful
is it the banyas
the old women are really ugly
but the young no the old women are really ugly
but the young women are so beautiful.
What happens between like 30 and 50, 60?
The over exposure to the bono probably kicks in.
No, I think the bono is actually great for the skin and everything.
It was a really cool experience.
So, you know, if you ever have a chance going to rush and wine.
And if you think it's too hot, just go in.
And Rachel Chelle, go in and stay in there for a really long time.
All right, so let's get back on this caller.
Get back on it.
Yeah, he's calling in two minutes.
We'll be back with what's his name?
Billy Bob.
Billy Bob.
Can we call him BB?
Can I say ask a question about him?
Yeah, well, no, I want to ask BB.
Bebebe, we can call him, BB.
You know, where does he think, you know, this girl's going to go?
You know what I mean?
He wants to leave his wife for her.
We've got to talk to this guy.
Billy Bob.
We'll get him on.
We'll be right back with Billy Bob.
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Hey, Billy.
You're on the call
with Kathy and Tommy.
How you doing?
Hi.
So listen, I read your email.
We actually read your email on the call,
on the podcast actually a while back.
And, you know,
we always figured we needed more information from you because it's uh it's you need more information to
give someone like you advice because basically what the deal is is you're dating an escort right like
your girlfriend that you're calling it you're 51 she's 24 she's an escort she was it's not it's not
her on the side you were her john right and she was your what the present time she's not
escorting no i know but i mean when you met her she was right yes yes right so but you but you
and you've been doing this for like over a year,
but you eventually went from her being your escort
to her being your girlfriend.
But this is the weird thing about this thing
is because at the end of your email,
you say that you've been faithful to her,
yet you're married, right?
And you want to leave your wife for her?
Yes.
Okay.
And lately there's been things that have been happening,
like you found some pictures
with some guy cupping her breasts and stuff.
And so you're having problems with her,
but you're really into her
and you want to stay with her,
so you're looking for advice.
Yeah.
Okay.
First things...
You know, I don't think any guy would appreciate...
Okay, but Tommy, why don't you ask the question that you wanted to ask for all the long?
I mean, that's...
Obviously, nobody wants to see their girl with somebody else.
And I 100% agree with you.
But given her occupation in the past, okay, and how you met her,
the fact that you're still married with another woman, I mean...
Right.
First of all, one, you know, you're with...
You got both sides.
So you have two women right now.
And, I mean, okay, no problem.
I'm saying right now, you have two women right now.
You have her as your girlfriend and you're also married to someone, correct?
Correct.
And you got to understand, you know, in my thought here is,
she's 23, 24 years old, given her former career as an escort, okay, and her age.
and the fact that you have two women right now,
I mean, there's certain things that you have to accept.
And when I say that is, you know, it sucks,
but it's like, you know, if you're dating a girl more than half your age,
you know, you can't expect them to go from a lifestyle
that they are in the adult industry to being Mrs. Cleaver.
You know what I mean?
Well, I mean, you know, you know,
and when you make a commitment or something, you know,
there's some seriousness to it.
Listen, I agree with you.
But I have friends all the time
who are dating girls half their age
and they're complaining,
you know, oh, they do this, they do that.
I mean, you're dating someone who's only
five years out of being a teenager.
Okay, but let's just, can we just start?
I just want to know, though, Tommy,
like, how do you start dating an escort to begin with?
Like, how did it turn from you just fucking her
and giving her money to, like,
Like you actually dating her.
Like, how does that happen?
And you said that she had a boyfriend.
Like, she left her boyfriend for you?
Like, you, is that when, like, did she leave her boyfriend regularly or did she leave her boyfriend for you?
Like, do you guys both take this seriously?
In a way she left her boyfriend for me.
I kind of helped her get out.
It was, you know, and look at that relationship.
He knew financially.
You gave her money to get out of the relationship.
Is that when you guys started?
Is it because you wanted to date her?
Were you guys already dating?
Oh, what do you mean?
Oh, like love it.
Love at first sight.
It's like pretty woman.
Love at first sight.
Wait, but had you ever been with escorts before?
Was this like your first escort?
So you were like totally taken?
Oh, no. Yeah.
No, plenty.
Yeah.
So what was it about her that like you like fell in love?
Like, was she just totally your type?
And we shared interest and she was,
you know, she
You know
Like I
Okay, so then at some point
You're paying her like
When does she stop taking your money for sex?
Like how does it go from like her being your escort
To her being your boyfriend
Was it when she finally left her?
So basically she's with her boyfriend
She's fucking other guys he knows about it
And then she's also cheating on him
On the side with you?
Or were you still like her paid guy?
You're her client.
Well, we weren't.
No, we didn't have
we right so did you pay her to get out of that like at that point you you you since you fell in love
with her immediately like you wanted her out of that relationship because you had like yes okay and so
you help when you say you helped her financially what does that mean?
well i got her right and so okay and then she says she works two jobs you said and um and now
there's she has two jobs as well yeah but she's not working two jobs anymore no she uh she was
What kind of jobs did she get after being an escort?
Well, she's attending at a restaurant, like, talk.
All right.
So how are things now at the present time?
Right.
You found those pictures, right?
And what else is the problems with her?
Yes.
Why?
Oh, you think she's being an escort again?
Do you have any proof or, you know?
I don't have, I'm looking through the website where I'm sure.
percent that it's hard.
There's no face?
No, there's no face.
So why don't you order her?
Wait, wait, but wait, what were you on that website?
Yeah.
No, what were you on that website for?
Excuse me?
Oh, he just said maybe I don't want to know.
Yeah, maybe you don't want to know.
I mean, if you really enjoy the circumstances and the way it is now, I mean.
No, but let me, this is the question.
I don't, I don't enjoy it.
I'm going crazy with jealousy.
That's what I was going to ask.
I was going to say, would you mind if she was escorting on the side?
Absolutely.
Oh.
But what were you on that website looking for?
Were you looking for another escort?
No, he was looking to see if she, you're looking to catch her, right?
To not catch her, you know.
But I mean, you were on that site looking to see if she was advertising us.
Yes, yes, I was looking to catch her.
Okay.
I misunderstood.
But you pay for her financially.
You're kind of supporting her?
Yes.
Okay.
So why would she need to be an escort again?
Like why would she do that, do you think?
Right.
Maybe she, you know, I hate to say that, but maybe she enjoys it.
What does she say?
Have you asked her, like, what are the other things?
Okay, you said that you found pictures of her were coworkers,
but why would you think besides that ad, what made you go looking for that ad?
What made you think she was, like, escorting again?
Like, does she disappear?
Like, what's her deal?
Well, it seems like she was being very secretive,
and there was text messages,
and now she's got her phone.
Now there's a password on it,
and I can't see anything anymore.
Well, did she know you were looking through her phone?
Well, she caught me, yeah.
Right.
No, she didn't know all along.
Right, but when you confronted her about those words,
Like, you found those work.
How do you find those work pictures?
Were they on her phone?
Like, you said you found work pictures.
Yeah, they were on her phone.
So then, so you caught to, like, super.
You know, when she goes in the shower, you know, I have an opportunity to do that.
You know, I tell her that the steam in the shower, you know, you can't bring the phone in there.
The steam will mess it all up, you know.
She believes you?
Oh, yeah.
She believes me.
Oh, so you don't have a key anymore?
No, I have to kind of be invited, you know.
You had a key before, though?
Yeah, I did have a key, yeah.
And now, and you're paying for the apartment, and you're paying the bills, and this is, quote, unquote, your girlfriend, but now you have to be invited to come over.
Yes.
All right.
Well, I live with my wife.
I don't, you know, you know that.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't live in the apartment.
So it's her, it's her apartment.
I mean, you know, she can't have that kind of, you know.
Okay, but wait, why?
Did you ask her?
You know, like I pay for it.
I pay for it, but it's hers.
Okay, but let me ask you this.
Did you ask her?
I can't leave, I can't leave anything there, you know what I mean?
Billy Bob.
Did you ask her why she changed the locks?
What did she say?
right so she didn't she told you she got the locks change
it was yeah it was something about someone needed a key
that they might have ran off copies or something you know
so she gave someone else a key besides you yeah that doesn't really make any
well no no yeah but it was um like a maintenance type of of situation
oh in the in the building right so wait have you asked her to make you a new copy with the new keys
and uh just you know it just
get sloughed under the rug it doesn't happen you know
Tommy
you be more hard yeah I don't know what else to say I mean
it's you know I hate to say this you know
you sound like very sincere and everything
but it from my standpoint right now
it sounds like you're being taken advantage of
right because you pay all her bills and you pay her rent
and and yeah and that's what that's what it sounds like to you
yeah
I know I'm a genius, right?
Wait, but wait a second.
You think it's true love, right?
Like, I mean, you're, like, into this relationship.
Absolutely.
How many, and, but how many times are you guys intimate with each other on a weekly basis?
How many days, you're saying?
Yeah.
How many days?
At least, probably at least four, actually.
Okay.
I mean, so, I mean, that's a very active.
Right, she gets fucked four times a week.
Yeah.
Do you, like, but let me ask you this.
because you're married and she lives close by you?
Yes.
Okay, so do you guys go outside of the bedroom or do you guys just fuck?
Like maybe she needs companionship outside of that.
Like, what do you guys do if you're married and this is like...
Yeah, we, we stay home.
And she's fine.
And so then she goes out to these work parties with friends and stuff
and that's where the trouble gets.
And you're crazy jealous.
Do you think maybe you're crazy jealous because you know,
I know that you say you don't judge her history
and that's fine with you.
But do you think that you knowing
that she was like fucking guys
with her boyfriend and starting a relationship with you
that like that makes you maybe not trust her now?
To me not to trust her, I would need some concrete reasons.
Okay, but you found pictures with the guys
like cupping her breasts and then you said in the email
that later she admitted that she was attracted to the guy.
Like first of all, why would she even tell you that?
Like I don't even know.
You know what I mean?
Did she say, like I don't understand why she would tell you
that that would only make you
fucking mental.
But, you know,
and the guy's cupping your breasts.
Right?
That wasn't proof for you?
Well, you know, it's, you know,
pictures.
It could have just been that,
you know,
I don't know.
I think that,
I think you...
What about ordering her up on that?
What about ordering the girl from the ad?
Well, I,
no, we said that before if he was ordering her,
but, you know,
God, what happens if it's her?
I mean,
that would be absolute truth.
Then you would know.
But I think that you're...
Yeah, I think you're so in love with her.
Yes.
And I think...
Well, if she was so in love with you,
she wouldn't put a password on her phone.
If she was so in love with you,
she wouldn't not give you a key to the apartment that you're paying for.
Okay?
Yeah, how long has that key situation?
Do you know anything about those passwords as the iPhone cars?
It's like, well, what do you do this?
And I googled it, but you know how to open that up?
No, you got to have the password.
That's it.
Either her fingerprint or the password.
Did you ever ask her, did you ever ask her why she has the passcode on?
It was mistyling people.
Oh, like butt dialing.
She's got an answer.
She's got an answer for everything.
And I mean, and a very good friend of ours wrote a book on cheating and how to cheat.
it was mostly a guide for men.
He literally, no, no, no.
He wrote a book on cheating.
He literally wrote and published a book on cheating.
Oh, not the book.
No, not yet.
But it's a good book.
It's a very good book.
It's called cheat.
Anyway, some high level, and he told me this,
it's some high-level cheating stuff,
is when, A, they have an answer for everything,
and B, it's all about the phone.
When they covet the phone, put passwords on the phone,
bring the phone to the bathroom with them.
Bring the phone to the bed with them.
Everywhere they go, that phone is tethered to them.
That's the biggest sign.
That's one of the biggest signs.
And second of all, I mean, go into, now let's fast, let's go to the part where she won't
give you the key to the apartment.
I mean, if you're someone that's being intimate with that person, three to four days a week.
And now you have to knock on the door.
And now you've got to knock on the door or be invited over.
It's not, you know, she's in that situation.
You didn't give her that to give her her freedom.
She's in that situation because you're in a relationship together.
Not because you're some very nice, gifting angel that's going to just help her out.
You know, you're not a charity.
You gave her that because you were getting into a relationship.
So, I mean, you know, love sometimes makes you blind and not want to look at what's really going on.
but I think
you know it sucks and it's going to hurt
how old is your wife
like you're 51
how old's your wife
yeah she's
okay
okay do you fuck her still
I mean right so
but you guys are like on your
you want to leave your wife
for her but you won't leave your wife
before her like you'll only like you'll stay with your wife
forever even though you don't
obviously don't have a good really like what's your deal with your wife
yeah
it's just about
as good as a relationship with
housekeeper.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
But I...
So she doesn't, there's no issues with your wife.
Like, she's not suspicious of you doing anything.
No, no, we do.
You know, we, we live our lives, you know.
So maybe she's over you too.
She might have a boyfriend as well.
Her career and everything else.
She doesn't...
So maybe that's what you like this escort.
Like, she gives you attention.
She gives you companionship.
Besides the sex. Like, what is it about this girl that you like?
Right.
She's perfect.
And you find that you have a lot in common with her.
Yes, yes.
And you know what?
You said it right there.
The fact that you said she's perfect
is going to make you blind
to a lot of things that she's doing
and believe a lot of her bullshit lies.
That's what I think.
Right.
I mean, normally people are not crazy jealous for no reason.
Like normally people are crazy jealous
because they're picking up on something.
Like, were you ever crazy jealous over your wife?
Um, ago.
I mean, are you just a crazy jealous guy
Or don't you think it's maybe you're crazy jealous with her
Because she kind of sounds like she does a lot of like
Shady things and maybe it's sort of like your intuition telling you something, no?
That what?
Maybe it's like you're, you know, you're like you're picking up on something
Things don't make sense like judge Judy says if it doesn't make sense it's not true
Oh yeah, yeah
I think you need to have a conversation with her
And get real answers and you need to
to ask her, all right, listen, for real, can I or can I not have a key to, you know, this apartment?
And the password.
And the password to the phone.
And you say, and she'll like, well, why do you need my password to the phone?
It's because, you know, I feel like, you know, that there's a disconnect and, you know, and you got to tell her how you feel about her and the trust in the relationship and where you wanted to go.
And you got to make sure she's on the same page.
and I'm going to tell you right now
if she's not on the same page
you need to
you know either
take from it for what it's worth
or get the hell out of there
and do something else
because this is only going to blow up
in your face down the road
I mean she's 24
or do she, are you going to leave your wife
and marry her or just date her
do you want to have kids with her?
Do you have kids with your wife?
Yeah I have two kids.
And they're older?
How old are your kids out of the house?
all of them?
Yeah. No, they're in their
20s. They're out and there.
Okay, but like, does this girl want
and do you guys talk about the future together?
Like, Tommy was saying before we got on the call,
like, what he wanted to know is, like, what is your
future plans with a 24-year-old hooker?
Like, what would you think you, like, what would you
think you guys would have together?
Like, do you plan on marrying her?
I don't, I don't,
I don't really, I don't really
look at it like that.
But, I mean, have you guys had conversations
about your future together? Does she
want you to leave her wife?
No. No. No.
I mean, maybe, you know, the future, like, you know, better apartment or better car or things
like that, but not like, you know, as far as like advancing the relationship or anything,
you know.
Right.
Just like normal, normal thing, you know, like not, you know what I mean.
Right.
So if you left your wife, you're not looking to get married again.
No, I've got to.
Wow. I don't know what to say. I'm just nervous because from someone on the outside looking in, this sounds like this is a young girl who's pretty crafty and, you know, who sees somebody like you, who's very genuine and financially stable that's taking care of her and generous and she doesn't want to lose you.
and she's going to give you enough so you keep on giving.
And I don't want to see a guy like you who is genuine and generous
actually be taken advantage of.
And that's a hard thing to hear, especially from after hearing you tell me how much
you care about this person.
And I know it's difficult for you to hear me say that this person you care a lot about,
about I feel is taking advantage of you.
but that's what it sounds like from an outsider looking in at this at this scenario that's going on here and i think
that you should you know open your eyes a little more and instead of being snooping and you know and trying
to figure stuff out like a detective because nobody wants to live like that everybody wants to live like
an open book because you feel clear like that and you have to have crazy yeah you're going to go crazy
He sounds crazy, or you said she makes you crazy.
I would be.
If she's back escorting or cheating on me, I...
Well, I'm sorry to say this.
I would never find a girl more, you know.
Well, unfortunately, it sounds, you know, you have to accept at her age and she's going to do things.
And, you know, all I remember when I was in my young 20s, I didn't think rationally.
Well, I didn't think about a month down the road.
I thought about what am I doing this weekend or what am I doing tonight?
And, you know, I don't think she cares about your feelings as much as you do hers.
So I would have a very frank conversation with her and say, where do we go from here?
This is my thing.
We had a call a couple of weeks where a guy thought, Tommy, your baby was at the podcast,
so you didn't pay attention as much.
but it
um so but what happened was he thought his girlfriend was cheating on him
and he had all these things and we definitely i definitely never said once on that podcast
i tried to be positive because i felt bad for the guy
and try to sort of think of other reasons why all the things he was thinking about were
taking place but it turns out like literally two days later it was all true she was cheating
so i'm not going to take that stance this time i'm going to say what i really think and it just
sounds so obvious that she's probably up to her old tricks like
I feel like these escorts and stuff, like, it's very hard for them to be pulled away from that lifestyle
because it's not just about the money.
Like, I know you're paying her.
There's a lot more that goes into it most of the time, I think.
Do you know what I mean?
The adrenaline.
There's some sort of neat.
Yeah, a lot of different things.
I don't know.
But, you know, and with the phone and the keys and you see some ad and it really sounds like she's fucking cheated on you.
And, you know, look.
Do you love?
You know how I'm going on the phone calls?
What if you guys called the ad and recorded the girl's voice and played it back for me?
We don't call ads.
We don't call ads.
We have people call us.
But I'm going to tell you that.
Oh, you're going to call it now.
Yeah, we can't do that.
Yeah, we can't do that.
We're not a CIA detected, even though that is kind of fond.
No, no, no.
No, I'm saying you record it and you can play it back and I can.
hear what the voice sounds like.
No, why don't you do that?
I think you should call.
Yeah, I think you don't want to know.
That's the thing.
Like you said, you don't want to know.
Yeah, you know.
You're not ready to know.
I wouldn't want to.
I wouldn't want to know.
I mean, the body looks too, you know, the word reminisce.
So why don't you call the number while you're in the apartment with her?
See if it rings.
Just block your phone.
Just block your phone.
And when you're in the apartment, call the number secretly and see if a phone rings in the apartment.
So why don't we do this?
Why don't you?
We like to check up with our colleagues.
Yeah, we don't have, I mean, besides the fact that we could give you our opinion of what we think is going on,
which is we think that maybe she is cheating on it because there's lots of things.
You know, you're obviously really into her when, you know, but the only solution,
the only thing we could give you advice on for the problem is like if you think she's cheating,
there are things you could do to find out.
You can't get into her password.
She's fucking locked you out of your own apartment.
You have to call the number.
You have to call the number.
And you'll do that when you're ready.
I try the first day this.
I just cannot get into that damn phone.
Forget about that.
Forget about the phone.
Like we said, if you really want to know,
you will figure out a way to call that,
be a different kind of guy,
and, you know, set her up and find it.
That's your only thing.
But I really believe that people,
like find things out when they're ready for it.
You're not ready. You're calling us.
You're not calling her. When you are ready, when your
mentalness, when she's making you so crazy
that like that's worse than actually finding out, that's when you'll
actually make the call. I don't think he's ready, Tommy,
to make that call now. Because you still are totally into her.
Right? Yes. You think you're going to make her. Right.
So, and you're tortured by her, but
your happiness with her is higher. Eventually when that torture
gets worse is when you'll really want to
fucking know. And then you'll do what it takes.
You're not going to get into her password. I just fucking forget
about that. And you're not going to
What do you mean to what it takes?
You'll do what you'll find out. There's probably a lot of
obvious signs around her, I'm sure.
I mean, it sounds kind of obvious
already to probably listeners with the keys
and the shit, you know, and you're paying for all her
stuff and she locked you out of this,
she changed the keys mysterious and now she's
you know, blocking her phone. I mean,
come on.
but you will want
when you want to know
there's probably other ways to know
one is the ad and there's probably
another time is just go over her house
unannounced at a certain time
you know whatever I don't know
so anyway
I didn't hear some kind of what
I don't know I mean but my whole point
is that you're not there yet so
all we could do is give you our advice
and tell you what we think but you're going to hear what you want to hear
and you're going to think what you want to think until you're ready
I think it's a
slippery slope dating a girl like i don't think all girls that are escorts i'm sure some of them
transition over into normal i'm sure a lot of them transition over into normal relationships and stuff
but she's really young she's only 24 she just kind of sounds like a mess and she kind of sounds like
a liar because she doesn't give you straight stories and stuff so you know you got to watch up
yeah we think we think so so what we do is we have callback shows where you give it you know like
The last time the guy thought he was cheating, literally it took two days, and he text message me back and said he found out she was cheating.
So when you're ready to find out and you find some information, you let us know and you email me back, okay?
And we'll put you back on the show.
Yes, yeah, I will.
All right.
You hang in there, buddy.
Good luck with her.
Okay.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
All right.
Well, thank you very much.
You know, it's so good to get off my chest.
Okay.
Our pleasure.
Have a good one.
Bye, Billy Bob.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
Tommy, you could hang up the phone fast.
Oh.
I just, well, it's not just him.
It's, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you know, who are the guys, he's, he's doing on.
He doesn't want to believe it.
He didn't, he didn't, he didn't seem like he's right, right, right, his craziness knows that we, can we, can we agree on one thing.
Yes.
She's cheating on him.
Yes.
And I'm going to say.
She's totally using him.
He's a total sponsor.
And.
And that's it.
Well, she might like him too.
Yeah, she likes him because he's paying the fucking bills.
No, she might like him like him just for, you know, time spent.
Most people, most girls wind up.
It doesn't mean that she's going to stay with him and have this future.
That's the whole thing.
She's 24.
And when you're 24, I was so bad when I was 24.
I would probably play a lot of guys.
I like them all, but like there's no way she's like she's playing him.
I don't think she doesn't like him at all.
So a 24-year-old girl who.
It used to be an escort, so she's halfway decent from what this guy says, who can go out and party with another...
We didn't ask him if she was hot and what his scale.
According to him, she's 110.
She's perfect.
Yeah, she's perfect.
But here's a girl like that, and she can go out and meet another 25 or even a 28-year-old who's ripped looking like Abercrombie and Finch, and then she's going to go hang out with this 50-year-old guy just paying her bills.
you know what I mean?
Yeah, and they don't even leave the house
and she's fine with that.
Like, you know what I mean?
Of course she's fine with that.
She doesn't have to get fucking seen with him.
We don't know that he's ugly.
I never asked him on a scale of one to ten.
It's not about ugly and whatever.
It's definitely someone who's 24 and my boyfriend is in his 50s.
Right.
It's not, you could be a good looking 50 year old, but still 50.
Right.
When you're 24, when I was 24, 50s and so old, 40 is so old.
Like, it's so old.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think these guys being,
He should get ready for the big hurt.
Yeah, he's already going crazy.
I know for me when I go crazy.
I Googled how to break passwords.
Oh, my God.
Dude, I totally understand that mindset.
That's where he's like he's losing it.
But that's when you know that you're with someone that's cheating and you.
No one ever, I don't really believe unless you're really like certifiably nuts.
Yeah.
That anyone ever goes to that crazy place when that person isn't doing something.
Like, have you made, when you were a cheater, let me ask you this time, be honest.
When you were a cheater.
When I was dating.
I'm going to try to be, yeah, when you were a cheater, when you were, I'm going to try and be, what's the word that she used?
Gentle.
Your voice, soothing.
Soothing.
Soothing.
Did you, did your girls go nuts about you?
Like, did you make nuts?
Yes.
Yes.
I had.
You did, right?
But my thing was, I wasn't in, when I wasn't in like these fully committed relationships and just rampantly
cheating. I mean, I was in these with
good conscience and this and that. When I knew I was about
to break up, that's when I got back out
there. But then there was a part where I would
just date people and I was dating, but
they obviously had a different
opinion about what the
relationship was. What do you mean?
Well, they thought it would be more,
it was more serious than it was.
You said when you was serious, it was serious. When I was
serious, it was serious. You know, and I was, you know,
but when I was about to get out of the
relationship, I went back to my old
shenanigans, you know? Uh-huh. And
when they would go crazy.
They would absolutely go crazy.
They knew. They knew. They knew. They knew. They weren't crazy.
They knew. That's what I mean. When people come to me like guys or even girls and they're like, oh, they always turn it around and say like that pretty, they're acting fucking crazy.
But like it's because you're doing something. You rarely hear someone say this bitch is going crazy and you're totally like the nicest guy.
Yeah. No. Does your wife go crazy with you now? No. No. Why not? Because you're not fucking doing anything.
No, that's true.
I mean, and.
But I think if you're cheating, your body gives off something.
It does.
There's something.
I was a slightly, a slight cheater when I was younger, and I had this guy.
He wasn't really my real boyfriend.
And I fucked somebody else, I think, and I saw him.
He was like a booty-coll guy, but we had a crazy, but the minute I got over at his house,
it wasn't even that day, but he was like, I know someone's been down there.
He was like, I scared this shit on me.
He's like, I could smile.
I know.
And it was so true.
How do they know?
I even believe that they know, like, I had a guy, like, recently that was, like, into me.
And, like, he was a fucking asshole.
So I was, like, trying to be into other guys.
And I was out at night with another guy.
And, like, I felt myself falling for this guy.
And I was into him.
And I was forgetting about the other guy.
And then all of a sudden, that fucking guy started texting me.
It was, like, three o'clock in morning.
And I'm like, he smells.
And the guy that I was with, I'm like, oh, my God.
Look, look.
He's text me.
Like, what should I do?
He's like, don't text me.
I'm like, why is he texting me at three o'clock morning?
because he knows you're with me.
He knows you like me.
And that's the fucking truth.
I feel like people could smell it from a mile away.
Yeah.
Don't you think?
There's absolutely something.
There's some kind of thing that your body gives off.
I don't know if it's a smell,
but I think it's some kind of energy.
And it's hard.
It's hard.
And that guy,
he's in for trouble, man.
He sounds like a,
he sounds like he's just whipped to her.
He sounds whipped.
Like he literally sounds like he's like,
it's almost a little bit delusional.
Yeah.
Because he sounds like he knows.
He knows all these facts.
When we said, dude, she's lying to you.
Do you think so?
And I thought he meant like, like, kidding around.
You think?
Like, I know.
But he didn't.
He's like, seriously?
How did you figure that out?
He's that this is going to be, if we do follow up with him, if he, if he's still alive,
I think this guy's going to go mental.
What do you mean still alive?
He sounds like he's so mentally obsessed over this girl.
Yeah, he said she's perfect.
That it's going to, it's, it's, it's,
going to go awry and he's going to lose his mind.
He did say he fell in love with her at first sight.
Have you ever fallen in love with this?
No.
I mean, I'm sure lust, like, guys are like, oh, my God.
There's always lust at first sight.
Right.
But there's never, I don't know.
But with escorts, like, so guys talk to them afterwards?
Like, isn't it like a, you fuck him and leave him?
Like, that's the whole point?
Yeah, there's a saying that they say, I don't pay to fuck them.
I pay them to leave.
Exactly.
That's the saying.
But I do know that a lot of.
of guys with their escorts.
I mean, this isn't the first guy that emailed me, okay?
Okay, but these are lonely people.
Okay, and even very wealthy people.
Look at Tiger Woods.
He made relationships with all those girls that they just want.
And he's, Tiger Woods was probably so lonely.
And I don't, like we said, we don't want to talk about celebrities.
But these, even these wealthy people or they're just so lonely, this, they want to form
a relationship.
Somebody who's like out there meeting people and whatever and it's like, like,
dude I just need to get laid send her over here
Bing bang get the fuck out of here and that's it
You know what I mean?
You know that's one thing
But like you know
That's why that business is
You know
It's a dangerous business
Because you have people get attached
You know
Right exactly
This guy's attached
My friend's friend
Was turned into an escort
And I think she really believed it was gonna be like pretty woman
And she's gonna meet a dude
And like you know
He was like you know
This freaks out there
Oh she said it was so gross
Like first of all she didn't make it
half the money that she thought she would because they take a lot of the money from the girls.
You know what I mean?
And then she'd have to like fuck guys with bad breath and stuff like stuff that you don't really think about.
Like really gross men.
You know what you know what you're, I don't know.
You never know what's behind that door.
Yeah, I love sex and I get like, oh, why not get paid for it kind of thing, you know?
But I think it's a matter of like you don't get to choose who you fuck.
Like what do you do when you're an escrow and you get to the door and it's some gross dude.
You give up that right.
You give up that right for the money.
Right.
So how could you really like set?
Like, I don't know.
Someone's like, oh, I like sex.
Why don't I get paid for it?
Well, you like sex because you have the choice on who you fuck.
Exactly.
Like you fuck people that you're off.
Once you're that you give up the choice and you're not fucking a guy.
You're, you know, the money.
That's what your choice is.
Right.
It's a job.
Right.
It's a job.
Okay, well, let's say this time so we don't sound like assholes.
Like last time we sound like assholes, we told that guy he was crazy for thinking that
and he was being paranoid and he was completely right.
And that's what I realized.
When you have, when you're going nuts and someone's making you crazy, you're right.
Trust your instincts.
Absolutely.
Right?
Go with your gut.
Yeah.
She's cheating on him.
Absolutely.
She changed the locks because she's fucking escorting.
He's paying her, right?
He's basically like supporting her business right now.
She's working on her 401k now, buddy.
Yeah, totally.
On his dime.
And that's what we predict.
Awesome.
Until next time.
Okay.
Bye.
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