Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 027 - Ray K's Wife Can't Have Sex Anymore So He's Turned to Escorts

Episode Date: June 16, 2014

Ray K's wife hasn't been able to have sex with him for years and so he's been having sex with escorts on the side. He's been with over 100 of them and he calls in to give us the details. Tune in to find out where to find the high class escorts, how much they charge, what really goes down when they show and a lot more.    **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. Craigslist is definitely the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it. The temptation is just too much.

Does your friend know that you're banging her? No, he has no idea. And anything goes. Motto of the show, let your Greek black lie. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to re-hide your whips and change. Here are your hosts, Kathy Kay and Tommy. Hey, welcome to Strictly Anonymous Podcast. How you doing?

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Yeah, Tommy, you're doing your job very well today. You already commented on me interrupting you, which I'm not supposed to do. You're supposed to be on top of that. That's great. Take a deep breath, speaks slower. Yeah. Before we get on the podcast, I was talking about, a sexual escapade that I had previously or recently.

And I asked Tommy. Wait, and I asked Tommy if I could talk about it on the air. And he said, no. And I said, why do I sound like a whore? And he said,

yes. Women aren't allowed to talk about liking sex. Are you not like 14? I retracted the statement. I said, of course, you know, you went away on vacation.

You got yourself a, banged out. No, wait. Let's talk about who we have on the call. It's funny. He sent me a picture. People don't understand that.

It's interesting that some people want to actually be, you know, anonymous. You know, and he does want to be anonymous, but he sent me a picture of himself. Can't know his name, but I can see picks. Anyway, his name, we're going to call his name. He wants to be called Ray Kinsella. That's not his name. But I say we call him Ray K. Ray, Ray K.

Ray K. Ray K. Ray K. Okay. It's Ray Kinsella, Ray K. Okay. So Ray K, this is his email. He's the guy that actually sent an email a while ago, and I read it last week, one part of it,

where he said that I was mean to you and that if you wanted to have someone rag on you, you just go to your wife. Way to go, Ray. Way to go, Ray. You could say that to him when he answers. I will. When he calls.

Okay, so this is his deal. He's like an asker guy. He says, I'm happily married and have been for many years. I've cheated. I never cheated until my wife could no longer have sex. She had a medical issue that drained her of her sex drive as well as making her sex really extremely painful. I missed being touched and the romance as much as the sex.

I travel a lot for work and began to explore the idea of an aspect. court. A woman in my postgraduate school, a woman in my postgraduate school was formally an escort, so I called her to get some advice. She suggested a website where the girls are pre-screened for accuracy and value. I joined the site and must say the verification process was extreme and a bit embarrassing, but ultimately was great because it protects the client and the entertainer. The entertainer.

So over the past five years, I've been with over 120 escorts. These have included a dozen porn stores and a wide variety of women. Some have been amazing experiences and others have been disappointing. I've had two women who I helped get out of the business and into living their dreams through business advice and connections. I've had a half a dozen or so that I've helped with their escorting business and two who wanted to have a full-blown off-the-clock affair with me and one who wanted me to leave my wife.

I see at least two a month and have a half dozen that are regulars. Almost all of those who I see regularly have foregone their normal fee structure and will see me for an entire evening for dinner at Ruth's and a gift card. to a high-end department store. I'd be happy to talk if you guys are interested, but I understand if my double life is too mundane for your podcast. No, his double life is not too mundane for the podcast. It's so perfect for the podcast because this is what it's all about.

I was with my cousin on vacation. I saw my cousin on vacation too. She's not the person I had sex. And she was saying she listened to that guy, who was the guy that was giving massages? He was one of my favorite calls, you know, the Christian guy. Yeah. And she had so many questions for him. You know what I mean? And she was just like totally into like, like, you know, listening to him and everywhere we went, I said, you know, that could be him and that could be him and that could be him. And the whole point. Yeah. No, but the whole point I was trying to tell her because she's kind of young and naive and maybe it's bad to twist her mind. But that this is how people are. Do you know what I mean? No, I totally know how you mean. Yeah. And this guy's not even a cheater. He's, he never cheated on his wife. It was only until she probably had a hysterectomy or something, the poor thing. doesn't know sex drive and sex is painful for her

so she doesn't even get to get late anymore but he does and he's doing the whole escort thing so I think it's interesting he's definitely getting late are you jealous what his escort life did you hear out how much action he has I mean it was exhausting just reading it he's got regulars he's got side people he's got friends

he's got pornsters he's got herpes he's got crabs he's got everything he actually goes into this whole thing but we'll talk about, because his email, besides that, which he wanted to talk about on the show, he commented on how mean I am to you. And he also talked about Mara, the call with Mara,

the girl who said she was bought, you know, for the weekend, you know, the escort. He didn't believe her, and he went into talk about how much he believes. He says the top tier girl who is also a famous porn star will get on average $1,500 for an hour, and the rate drops the more time you spend with them. So a girl who is $1,500 an hour will be $5K for the night or $15K for the weekend. I was raised Catholic and Jewish, and so have never really explored my sexuality.

I'm an executive in a C-suite at a national known company. My entire life is one of responsibility. I wanted to find out what I liked and wanted to have some experiences with the safety and the arrangement of an escort. That was a little bit more information. So he had all the pricing and everything. So he was saying it was bullshit notes and they didn't pay 50 grand for her

because he could get, you know, a porn star, right? That's kind of famous in the sex world. For 15 for a weekend. Yeah, I didn't believe her either. girls sell themselves cheap they sure do would guys pay more if it was more why not i don't know i'm here in a weird no i don't think they'd pay more they'd just move to girls who would ask less i gotta compliment you you i thought you were so great on the podcast last week you never listened to the podcast i listened to them you were very you were more helpful to that guy last week than i was like you

were really you got a problem he just didn't want to believe the truth he knew it he knew what was going on He just didn't want to believe it. Right. So I don't really think this guy has a problem, but he just has an interesting double life that we're going to find out about. Ray Kay. Yeah, Ray Kay. Yeah, Ray Kay.

Let's see what he says. Yeah. Okay, we'll be right back with Ray Kay. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com, with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous.

Okay, so hey, Ray, welcome to the podcast. You're a listener, right? That's how you wrote in? I found you on iTunes. I think it was probably the second or third episode. I've been listening ever soon. In the beginning. Awesome.

And you didn't believe that Margal. I just read your email to Tommy. I read half of it the other day on another podcast because I thought it was funny how you critiqued what I do to Tommy. You said I'm too mean to him. So I've been trying to be nicer. But I read the rest of your email as far as the fact that you didn't believe it. Oh, yeah.

Tommy wanted to say thank you. Yeah, I appreciate it, Bray. Thank you. We're going to call you Ray Kay. I'm sorry? We're going to call you. Ray Kay. That's fine.

You call it whatever you want. All right, cool. Exactly. So you don't really necessarily have a problem. You just lead a double life, right? But like you said, in the email, you were never a cheater before, right?

Like, it just started when your wife had, did she have a hysterectomy or something? What happened to her? No, she had a cancer in her uterus and then went through menopause. And so it just made intercourse pain. Yeah, she's an incredible person. I love her.

And she offered the divorce when all that went down. And I don't want a divorce. Right. So I thought I'd be fine because I've never been particularly, I guess, really hungry for sex. And then just probably a year and a half into it or so, I just kind of started missing that connection. A year and a half into her not wanting to not being able to have sex, right? Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And then I was in grad school with a girl who had been an escort. And so she had kind of coached me on, you know, what to do. Right. How did you know she was an escort? She was just like she was out there with it, with everybody knew? A lot of teams together in this program.

And so over that 18 months, we got to know each other. And she was an escort her whole, like the whole, her whole life. She was still an escort that many years later. So she'd quit to then do this grad program. Oh, okay. She doesn't have escorting when I knew her. Uh-huh. And what was the vetting?

You said that, like, you went to a website that she recommended and they sort of, like, you know, put you through the ringer. Like, what did they, what do they do to make sure that you're legit? Do you know about this kind of? No. I don't know if it's okay to say the website or not, but they screen the providers and the clients to make sure that everybody's above board. In the screening process, you have to, you pay a fee, of course. Right. How much?

So it's 500, about 500 bucks. Okay. Just to join. For that 500, for that 500 bucks, what they do is they do a kind of a background check on you to make sure you are who you are. You don't need stocking charges. Right. There's nothing, you know, on any of these escort websites where you've been blackballed by any of the ladies, anything like that. And when that's all done, they actually call employment.

So I'm in the C-suite of a pretty large privately held company. What they did was they called our switchboard and were put through to my phone. Then they called my assistant. And, you know, all other the guys of a fake appointment or whatever. And verified me that way. So it was a little that I've done that I'm really pleased because it makes the experience pretty safe and above board. And they're just making sure that you're like not a cop and that you could pay. And that he's not some kind of psycho killer, you know what I mean?

Well, there could be psych killers that have jobs. All of it. Well, you know what I mean? The chances go, he's not some weirdo hold up in a house somewhere. You know what I mean? I guess. I mean, what are they looking for when they're doing all this research on you? All of those things.

You know, you're not some kind of a psycho. You don't have stocking charges. You are who you say you are. You can't use false names or screen names. Oh, wow. When you're doing the screening process. Uh-huh. And then once you do the screening process, you can have a screen name.

Wow. So this company. He has a lot of information on a lot of people. Wow. What's the website? You could say it, right? No, don't say it. Don't say it.

Why? Why not say it? I don't know. I think you could say the website. All right, we'll say it if you can, yeah. It's called Preferred 411. Preferred 411. But if cops are listening, like, are you getting them in trouble by outing them as like a full-blown escort agency?

Yeah, but no one knows who he is. If you were to look, if you were to look like. Right, exactly. So it's preferred one-one-one-one? 4-1-1. Oh, 4-1-1. Okay, awesome. So they, so first, so then you, so once you get past, like, the screening process, then what happens?

The profile where you describe yourself and what you're looking for. Uh-huh. And then you have access to the database of escorts, which is arranged by countries, state, and city. And in my mid-40s, I could not imagine being with someone in, you know, who is much, more than about probably 10 years younger than me. Uh-huh. And so I can set up all the filters so that there's not, you know, 20-year-old girls on there for me.

Right. Oh, because you wanted a certain age range. So you could put filters on. That's great. Hair color, you know, weight, breast size, everything. Oh, wow. And they have plenty of people so that if you put in all your sort of requirements, you get a couple people to choose from?

Gosh, you get, geez, I mean, between, I'd probably say the lowest amount maybe 45 or 50 and the highest would be a couple hundred like in Vegas or Atlanta. Just to pick? What about New York? There's probably a lot in New York, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't go to New York for work or anything, so I've never looked at the New York. So your wife doesn't know that you do this, right?

Not at all. Does she, do you guys have any sex whatsoever? No, none. None? So she just thinks that you don't get late either? Right. Or is it a don't ask, don't tell? So she doesn't like oral, and so that kind of takes that off.

She's meeting oral like she doesn't want you to go down on her? Or she doesn't want to give you a blowjob? And so since she can't have vaginal sex and she has like oral, right? That's what a lot of options. Uh-huh. So she doesn't, but what is she, I mean, do you guys ever have conversations? How long has it been since you guys haven't had sex?

Wow. And you think that she thinks that you just jerk off for seven years? Like, I mean, do you really think that she believes that you would remain faithful for these seven years? Or, like, even that it's fair? Because isn't even that you're cheating? You know, really close. We have a good relationship. And we do talk about it.

You know, she just went last month to a doctor who thinks he can kind of fix this issue. Oh, that'd be great for her. If he can fix it, I mean, I'll stop with my, my, I've done the life. You know what? That's really... But also, she's way more than me than just a sex partner. Of course.

You know what? Ray, I give you props for that. I really do. That you said that. That's amazing. You know, a lot of people would be like, you know, whatever. I'm getting it. And they're living this little exciting lifestyle

where you could have the hoard de jour, whatever. Or de jour, I like that. And, you know, you went from a very, you know, no frills, you know, intimate relationship to having all this excitement, whatever, but to make a statement saying that if the doctor can, you know, reverse what had happened that you would go back to your wife, I think that's amazing, really amazing. Oh, yeah, I would. I love her.

I'm crazy about her, and she's still very attractive to me. Yeah, no, I was in heartbeat. Wow. Right. So that's great. But let's get to the escorts, because that's what you've been doing for the past seven years. Like you said, a year and a half into, like, her, you not being able to have sex, right? It's been, like, five and a half years.

Yeah. Yeah, it's been about, it's been just almost five. It'll be five in August. Right. And were you, like, nervous your first time or really excited? Because this was going to be, like, the first woman you were with in a really long time, right, other than your wife. Did you feel guilty? Yeah.

What was your deal? Yeah, all was very, very nervous. I had reached out to a woman I thought was attractive, and I just didn't think, I thought the escorts were pretty, too. so I didn't think she would actually probably want to see me. And she said, yes, I was pretty nervous. And I was raised Jewish and Catholic, so if you want to talk about guilt after that first time. Wow, I know how you feel, buddy. And then it was, what happened was the second, we ended up spending the whole time,

probably just chatting before we pulled around. And she was just, she's kind of a Buddhist chick, and was just very free and kind of helped me to start to learn through and express things that I like sexually. which I've never talked about. Uh-huh. On my journey. A lot of guilt. A lot of guilt actually went and saw a therapist after it.

What did your therapist? My therapist actually continued to encourage me to explore it. And felt like I was doing it in a responsible way, in a way that wouldn't damage my family. Right. You're always using condoms, right, with these people? Look, you're either going to start drinking a lot or you're going to explore this, but you're going to find some way to cope with the lack of intimacy.

That's right. She felt like this was a safe way. And I don't play in my hometown or anything like that. I don't do it on the road when I'm traveling for work. Right. See, that you're a smart cheater and a considerate cheater. Well, I really wouldn't call him a cheater. Not even, right.

Yeah. I think that's like a, cheater is a bad word. And I don't think what you're doing is cheating. Exactly. I think what you're doing is... Keeping your relationship together. Because instead of leaving her and going and find someone that could give you the whole package, because you really care about her,

You're just getting this little side thing taking care of so that you could stay with the woman that you really love. Yeah, I hope I'm not deceiving myself, but that's how I look at it. No, I think so. I totally look at it that way. I would never, you know, knowing the backstory here. He never cheated before. How long were you with her before when you say you never cheated on her? How long were you married before she, you know, got cancer?

We weren't married for quite a long time. We dated for 12 years. You were faithful to the whole 12 years? Oh, gosh, yeah. And I never cheated on a girlfriend before in high school or college or as a young adult. Yeah, you're not a cheater. You're just not a cheater. No, not a little.

He's a monogamous guy. They exist, people. No, I've never cheated. And I've had women on the road, you know, hit on me. There's kind of a rule on the road for business folks where, you know, playing's okay, and I've never dabbled in that. Yeah, that's very shocking. One of the things I like about the escorting is that, you know, that women I've met,

Some of them are incredible, and they don't expect anything more from you than the hour or two hours or three hours here together. I have friendships, you know, through email and things like that. You're bringing up a little bit. Wait, Ray. It's just everyone knows the rules. Ray, you were breaking up a little bit. So you've created some friendships with some of the escorts, right? Yeah, I'm sorry.

I didn't know broke up. Yeah. So what I was saying is I have friendships with some of them, but. I like the understanding of the escort relationship because everyone knows the rules. No one gets hurt. There's not expectations that are unrealistic. Right. You've never had a problem with any of them sort of starting to like you or any of that kind of nonsense.

Hornstar wanted me to lead my life. And these are like porn stars that we would know? Yeah. That's why I thought Maro was so full of crap because her pricing was just way off the time. outrageous. She was crazy. Wait, so how much did you pay for this porn star? You know, they range the ones I saw between $1,200 an hour

and $2,000 an hour. Now, do you know ahead of time, like, are you Googling porn and you're like, oh, I want to fuck her, and then you go to your website and say, hey, do you work with this girl? Or do you just put in your search? And then all of a sudden you see these people, and they're like porn stores that you know of,

and they're in your search, and they're available. Right. I've never been a porn guy. Just with my kids at home, I've always made sure my computers weren't something that they could start to dabble in. So I would do as I would put in my search engine and, you know, a woman would come up and it would say she's a foreign star. And then I would Google and go, holy crap, she is a foreign star. Oh, right. So you just found out, like you didn't even know even when you saw her. You just found out afterwards.

And so what happened with her? When I found her on preferred 401, it'll tell you if they're a porn star. Oh, interesting. And so she started to like you. did you take your relate you said some of these girls you took your relationship outside of like you know the payment plan and you just you know they'll fuck you on the side and you just give him some gifts yeah there's been a couple uh that we just kind of had a friendship and understanding and you know that had come to a point where they just said hey i don't want to you know have money and

let's just get together we'll have dinner whatever that was nice um and then the one like i said she wanted more you know she would ask me and stayed her house when they came to her town and things like that. And really where I broke it off was because and I was very clear. I never lied to or anything. I was not going to leave my wife. I was one of my family. And so it just got to a point where I felt like I was causing another person damage and I'm not going to do that. Did you find that any of these girls? Did you find that most of them loved what they were doing or did you find some girls that like you think maybe deep down inside they weren't like really into what they were doing and they're

doing it because they had issues? I mean, what kind of women were all of that. It's been some just really incredible. I admire their sexual freedom and I've learned from them. There's one girl that's kind of embarrassing in Las Vegas who... She was looking at her

so. Yeah, I thought, okay. That's not a good sign. I thought it was great, but I didn't think I was that bad, you know? So, and then we stopped and I talked to her and wanted to be there if she didn't really want to be there.

But do you think that the other ones really want to be there? You know, you know, as you get to know them, I would say it's across the board and there's several who play in as an escort because the money is really good they have regular jobs and they're highly highly sexual and some of them have husbands you know so they're kind of in a swinging lifestyle but then there's been at least from me I could either tell if they weren't into escorting or they weren't into me and so that would be like a one and

done and usually with those women I give them a fee but I don't I don't engage in sexual activity with them. It's like I don't want to fake it and you know and I know some fake it and all that but I don't want them to be there so they don't really want to be there. Right. And so you find that sometimes or a lot of the times you meet these women and there is actual chemistry

and they're really getting off with you? Yeah, traveling. I'd never met her before and we met for a drink. I had 15, 20 minutes into it. You can kind of tell she was really connecting and then we talked quite a bit about why

She felt like she was attracted to me. And she was one of the girls who's married, and it was a great experience. It was a lot of fun, and it was one of those things where, you know, you pay for an hour of their time. Really? Wow. How much is an hour per time? That particular girl is $500 an hour. I'm sure I bring, you know, like, let's say if they're free $500, I bring them like a $100 a trim card and maybe a $100 Amazon card or something like that.

You give them, like, extra. Like a tip. A tip? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, just like a gift or something. It's, you know, kind of an appreciation. On this website, they could actually pick who they sleep with, and they could say, no, I'm not interested in screwing that guy. Girls from escort agents. He's Island City Independence. That's another filter you can put on there. So the girls run their own business. And four of them, I actually had helped with the website and with getting with, like, my financial planner. so that they could get insurance, independent insurance,

and start to kind of build a life because one of the things I notice is there's tremendous money, but a lot of these girls end up kind of blowing it because they have $1,000 cash, so they go blow $1,000. Versus living on $200 a day like everybody else and saving $800 and then buying a home and getting ahead and things like that.

So you've helped some of that. Now, when you leave, right, are you doing all this talking and helping them while you're with them and paying for their time, or are you leaving and going back to town and, like, text messaging them or talking them on the phone or emailing with them? Yeah, no, it's afterwards.

Like, for the ones that's been a connection, you know, they'll ask what I do for work and I tell them. And then, you know, as the conversation goes, like one girl wanted to be a writer, and I have a friend who owns a publishing house, and so that was a pretty easy way to connect her and help her get out of it because she didn't want to escort anymore.

So it's when they reach out and there's a connection. But you're like text them like when you're home with your wife or talk to them on the phone or you just only see them when you're on the road. The nature of my work, my computer and my phone are highly secure and private. And so I can email from my phone or at home like that. There's no threat of being caught. Ray, let me ask you a question. How much do you think in the past almost five years have you spent on escorts? I thought that might be a question.

It's probably between, I don't know, $50,000 and $100,000 maybe because as I look, usually the girls I see are between $500 and I would say $1,500 for an hour to 90 minutes. Looking at my account, and it's not quite $120 yet, so I'm at $1.17. But I didn't engage in sexual activity with all this, just so you know. With all of them, you haven't. But probably $15,000 and $100,000. I would think, I'd have to really. sit down to do the math and then put in there the gifts i bought them and things like that so sometimes

you're satisfied with just hanging out and having the companionship yeah a couple of girls who have spent that time chatting with and then the time's up and you know they ask if we want i want to pull around and my own thing is if you're fine yeah but i've enjoyed talking with you and those are usually the girls that then want to go get dinner off the clock or something and and that's they feel like they could trust you i'm happy to treat pardon because they feel like they could trust you you're saying is that why then they start to see you on the side and and you're just doing dinner and regular stuff with them? Yeah.

No, I think because I'm not a liar, except for protecting this one area, I really hate lying. It's like you guys ask me anything, and I'll answer it, and I think people connect with that. Right. And so the girls, a lot of times, you all ask, hey, why did we connect? And then they'll kind of describe what their normal clients are like.

And then, you know, just different people connect on different levels and all kinds of walks of life. Yeah, see, I always thought that they had to like screw anyone that came their way. I think I'm going to become an escort. It sounds like a good deal. It sounds no different than dating. It's just you're getting paid for it. It's no different than Match.com.

It's just that you definitely have to have sex, but you're getting money for it. And if you're attracted to the person, what's the big deal? I think I'm going to become an escort, Tommy. This podcast is over. I don't need the podcast anymore. I'm just going to start tricking. Totally. It sounds like a great deal.

I didn't know that these girls could pick and say no. I mean, that's, I didn't, I don't know how it works, but I didn't know that. You never had those kind of, I didn't know that they could screen, you know? Yeah, I think that's great. And so you travel all around, you know, all over the United States, right? So you get, or to basically some of the same places because you said you never travel to New York, right? Yeah, New York is about the only major city. New York and Chicago about the only major cities I don't go to.

But you know, I go as far southeast of Miami and then all over the rest of the country. You use major condoms with them, right? Do they use condoms when they blow you? Yeah, no, the kind of the etiquette is that the escort brings the condom. Right. But does she put a condom on when she gives you head? Some do and I say that they only do the covered blow jobs. I don't really dig that.

I don't see those girls. But I would never have, I would never have intercourse without a condom. True. I mean, I wouldn't if I was single. now in seeing women not been escorting on with you. I just think it's irresponsible. No, that's completely irresponsible. There's so much stuff to catch.

You couldn't believe, if you listen to some of our podcast, of people that they have sex without these condoms. John and Stephanie. John and Stephanie, this guy's fucking football players and basketball players and whatever, and guys coming inside of her. And I just, the first thing that comes to my mind is some sort of STT, you know what I mean? me about his story with Stephanie was that it just seems like it could cause damage. But that's their business. Everyone has to make their own choices.

But I personally would never do that. Yeah, you're like, you're not a normal. I mean, I'm sure these girls tell you this, right? Because you're probably like 1% of the population that goes to escorts. Probably 99% of the guys are very different than you. They're guys that cheat. You know, and they do. But you're really not a cheater.

you're a really honest guy you have a specific situation like literally your woman cannot have sex it's like you have a doctor's note yeah thank god she found a doctor that could try and help her you know it'll like revive your yeah yeah yeah i hope so but you know it's like you know i guess because of our relationship it's deep on a you know intellectual level spiritual relational i mean she's just she's an incredible woman and so if it never comes back that's fine And at some point, I think my journey with escorting will probably come to an end. I'll just reach a point why I don't want to do it anymore or whatever. How old are you now?

I'm letting it say out. How old are you, Ray? I'm mid-40s. So mid-45. So you don't take Viagra or any of that shit. Like, you could still get it up. Are you good for one time or two times? I find that when guys get in their 40s, they start to only be able to do it one time a night.

Yeah, I don't want to brag, but it's one time. one time you're good for one day i did get viagra for my doctor's a sample when it first started because i knew i'd be so nervous and um i wouldn't have been able to i wouldn't have been able to get it without it i just so nervous so the viagra helped did you stay hard for like hours was it really a great thing tommy have you ever done viagra yes is it good i did viagra and uh cyalis what's syallis the same thing it's just a look the the only thing i didn't like about the Viagra is, you know, it makes you a little woozy at first and gets your heart rate going. Oh, really?

Did that happen to you? It was originally designed. And I think it was originally designed as a cardiac drug or something like that. I mean, I could be wrong. I'm sure people will email in and tell me the truth. But it was designed for something else. Right. And then they found out what it did.

And then obviously get my dick hard drug is going to say. of a hell of a lot more. Totally. Then fix your heart. But yeah, all of a sudden, when I took it, I mean, you get a little lightheaded and it, I don't know, it basically releases your blood. It makes your blood flow better or something like that. And for someone who doesn't have erectile dysfunction, it's almost scary.

Really? Because I was hard and it was just like, it stayed that way. And you know how you see the commercials and you laugh when they say, if you're you experience an erection more than four hours and you're like what the fuck four hours it's possible right did that happen to you ray pardon was it did that happen to you is it like that kind of experience too yeah exactly it's a little scary because it makes your heart race and you know there's there's actually been guys in the paper who took two or three what they were prescribed and had heart heart attacks yeah it does get you going and it makes me kind of flush because it does you know get your

blood moving. Yeah. If I had to take it, I guess, in the future I would, but it wouldn't be something that I would long to take. Right. So you only took it that first time because you were nervous. Yeah, the first, actually the first two. And, yeah, like the second girl, she was, you know, when we started emailing, she just

said, you know, what's something you've always wanted to do that you haven't done? And I was like, well, because my wife wasn't into that. And she said, well, that's what we're going to do, which is kind of fun and exciting. but I also knew I'd be so nervous that I probably couldn't get hard. So that's why I picked that second time. Right, you didn't. And then after that, you were good to go. Do you do anal with these people and all kinds of different?

Like, what's the craziest thing you've gotten one to do with you? Do you pay extra for that, anal? They had requested it. And no, I didn't. Some of them do charge more for that, and then others, they don't. It's probably just like other girls. If they like it, they don't charge. And if they don't like it, they figure they should get an extra hundred bucks or something.

Right. So they requested, you had a couple that requested it with you because they were horny and you guys were fooling around and they just wanted to. Take it. I was going to say that, but I let you say. I feel like it's like a horror on this podcast. Yeah, Kathy is very horrid out on this podcast. So you have done that. And so what were your bad experiences?

I don't know. This is like the, you don't live a, like, I mean, you do live a double life, but it's like a, you're like a good guy. Like no one can really judge you for it. It's like you have a doctor's note or a note from your mom that this is okay, you know? Yeah, totally. You know, it's funny. You say a note for my mom when my mom, she was dying of lung cancer and all this started. And she was very, very just kind of a hip and lightened woman.

And she was someone who also said, look, you know, you should think about this and getting an escort. Oh, she did. Oh, yeah. And that was probably one of the first thoughts. Like, well, maybe, you know. but she just felt like it would be a good way for me to have that connection and release and not destroy my life at home.

Yeah, you know, I have a friend that's a massive cheater and he's an on-the-road guy and he's a money man and, you know, they call him swinging dicks. You know, he's got a lot of cash, he's on the road. That's what they call him? Well, that's what he calls himself. He's a swinging dick. He's definitely like, yeah, swinging dick.

He's definitely like, yeah. He's not cool, but yeah. Yeah, and, you know, and he's a massive cheater. He had one girlfriend the whole time I've ever knew him, And I was just like just if you need to cheat or be with other people, like to me, the way cheating or whatever you want to call it is acceptable is the way you do it, which is just, you know, the side thing. It's just to take care of your sexual needs and that's it and it's because you're not getting it. But there's nothing else going on, you know what I mean? But a lot of guys just get, they get so involved in so many other ways and it just become such a fucking mess.

You know what I mean? But if you're going to cheat, it's like if you do it with an ask for someone that you pay out of town, nobody knows about. You don't tell your friends, right? Does anybody know that you do this? No, no, no. Right. I never talked about this with anyone but you guys. And no one needs to know.

Right. Mara wasn't out there. I wouldn't even have written in. Yeah, and no one needs to know, like I said. She is so poor crap. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's so bad. I think it's even worse when these cheaters are like telling their friends and everyone.

So this poor girl, whoever it is, right? Everybody knows. Yeah, she's sitting down. She's at party. She's places where all these people know. I think it's so disrespectful to the woman, right? If you're a man and you need to get your rocks off in a certain way but if you love your girl you would do it in a way that I think is above board and I think

nobody fucking knows about it not your friends nobody it's like you say it's a very private thing and you have people on the side and you're paying for it and they're not giving you grief they're not they don't know where you live I mean they know your deal right there's no relationship happening it's just a sexual thing I mean you have some friendships with them yeah there's been some friendships that have developed and um and those have been nice but like I kind of go through life feeling a relationship will develop to whatever level, personal, professional, and I just let that happen.

And so the ones where there has been a friendship, I'm okay with it, but I told them when the friendship developed, I couldn't see them professionally then. Right. So you stopped sleeping with them, you mean? Or you were still sleeping with them, but you were paying them? No, I wouldn't.

I would not see them as an escort. But would you still sleep with them? No, no, no, no. Okay, so you mean you wouldn't sleep with the middle? where the escorting relationship became a, you know, kind of a fun sexual relationship where they weren't charging me anymore, but those weren't the friendship ones. Right. But the few who have become friends, that once the friendship, you knew you were friends, I can't see you as an escort anymore. Oh, okay.

You're, like, really a do-the-right thing. I mean, there's not one thing you're doing in this situation. That's wrong. Because I would say, like, if you were still becoming really close with them and then screwing them on the side, like, that becomes, like, a. slippery slope, right? Because like that as a woman for me, that would freak me out because you are kind of establishing a relationship if you're friends with someone and your sleep. You know what I mean? That gets a little bit like scary, but you don't even, you don't do that. Like you do everything in the perfect right way. And that's because you're just not a cheater. You're not that type of guy.

You're like a good guy that is put in a situation where you need to find, you're a problem. You solved a problem. You have a problem. You solved it in the best way you could. You know with the least amount of damage. And I think that there's something very honorable about that. Yeah, I think that's, it speaks volumes about you. Can I say it like that? Yeah, right? I mean, he's just a good guy.

I don't think my wife would think it's honorable. Well, I mean, that's a different story. I mean, if you had to pick the lesser of two evils and one, this being one evil, and the other being a relationship with a woman down the street, you know what I mean? But wait, you really think if you're watching. wife, like if she knew that, you know, do you really think, like, has your wife ever said to you, like, hey, like, you need to go get your needs met somehow? Like, has she ever felt bad for you about you not being able to have sex?

Yeah, I think she feels bad. We talked pretty candidly, but she is not, she would never say go get her needs met somewhere else. I mean, like I said, I was raised Jewish and Catholic. She was raised in one of those faiths, and so it's just, it's not part of her thinking. Right, but I just think that if she was... I'm not ripping on those religions, but they definitely have a moral code or right and wrong. There's a heavy guilt and shame movement. Right, and they don't let people think freely for themselves and have their own brains.

But I'm sure if she really loves you and cares about you, knows you can't have sex for seven years. If she found out she might understand, like, if I was her friend and she came to me and said, oh, my God, I found out my guy's been fucking people behind my back. I'd be like, well, you know, he's not necessarily a cheater. Like you haven't had sex with them in seven years Like that's a really long time Like you know what I mean Like I think that that's a very different story

Than a guy that's you know Just screwing his co-workers and shit Behind his wife's back you know But yeah thank God she'll never find out Hopefully you don't ever come to that When you can never let her find out Yeah no never let her find out I don't think she's gonna find out

Because you're doing things so above board That I just and I don't think this is something Where she needs to find out But when is she slated To go to like a consultation with this doctor? right poor thing yeah she already give that and she's on the medicine and the medicine takes three months if it'll work it's a a study group and so we'll see and how old is your wife well she's she's about 10 years older than I am oh she is so she's you know she's and do you guys

have kids? Yeah, we have five kids. What? That's crazy. That's a lot of kids. Five kids. No, if I could have had 10, I would have. I just couldn't afford them.

Wow. I hear you on that. They're all grown and the youngest one that's just going to college. So besides us, nobody and besides the escorts, right? Nobody knows what you're, and besides your mom, she's in heaven now, right? She knows.

Nobody else knows what you're doing, right? my therapist my therapist does oh yeah you're therapist but she doesn't know but she doesn't know the extent she was we just talked about me doing it and then when i did it we talked about how i felt in the guilt we've never addressed it since then right she doesn't need to know the the extent i mean do you think that the extent has something to do you do it do you feel like to a a major extent or you just do it when you're on the road right it just really depends on how busy i am and what my work responsibilities are on the road. So it could be once a week.

It could be three times a month. It could be once a month. It really just a 10. I know you said you still have some regulars, but do you still get new people? Yeah. Yep, I do. And I found that that was something I didn't know about myself,

but there's something kind of, like I heard you both talk about your past and kind of your sexuality. And for me, there's, I didn't realize this, but there's something kind of exciting about new partners. Variety, baby. Variety. It's not exploitive and attentive and you don't know what they like. I don't know you like and kind of figuring it out.

Yeah, that's a guy thing. Yeah. So I think as long as I do, they'll always be a mix of new women. Yeah. Right. You'll have your good old faithfuls. I call them goffs, the good old faithfuls, G-O-Fs. And then you have the new people, right?

Like the new horse in the stable. And like you say, that's really exciting. I think that's more of it. Guys need more variety than women do. I don't think it's the actual sex with the variety. I think it's the rush of actually. the connection. Of getting it?

Yeah, I agree. Of someone coming. You know, a lot of people would explain that they said the most exciting part about having an escort was waiting for them to arrive and the actual climax was not during sex. It was when you opened the door and you actually met and saw the person. Would you agree? That's pretty cool, but the climax is pretty awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got that.

But I mean, but the anticipation I know is pretty intense. And have you tasted all kinds of things? Like have you, like, I mean, have you just sort of fulfilled every kind of fantasy in your mind? Like, have you been with black women and put her, like, you know, all kinds of different things? Yeah, I've never been attracted to Asian women and not, that's not prejudice. I just never been attracted to them. But I've been with a couple of black chicks and that was pretty fun. And I just, I was attracted to them as people and tall women, short women, kind of are skinny.

I mean, just all different kinds. Chunky. Guys don't, we all know. Guys like real heterosexual men, I believe. You know, women sometimes think guys only like skinny girls or pretty girls, and they don't understand that normal heterosexual men, like all kinds of tits and ass. Oh, they sure do. Right?

Like, you've tried it all. For me, I think it's different on each girl and how they're comfortable with their own body and their sexuality. And some of the women who physically were probably average in looks and in their body were incredibly sexy because they were just so at home. Totally. And then, you know, there's one girl in Las Vegas who's just stunningly beautiful, but just so empty inside that I couldn't, I couldn't do anything with her. I mean, it's just like, you know, there was just nothing there. Right. She was like a dead, like she was like a dead person.

Right. It's all about the way you carry yourself or like, I always say like sexiness comes from the inside. It's not just like, oh, you could have like the perfect breast implants and the perfect body. But if like you don't love sex or you're not really in touch or that are comfortable with yourself, you're probably not going to be going to bet. Yeah. So you've had. So you've been there, done that. You've had it all.

You've never been with any Asians. It's not your thing. Oh, you had that? No, the piercing, so that's never been anything for me. Oh, you haven't done the tattoos or the piercings. Go ahead, sorry? You've never done the tattoos or the pierced. That's not your thing either.

The tattoos, I've just been a couple who are real heavily tattooed. It's pretty sexy on them. I don't mind it. Uh-huh. I wouldn't be into a Mike Tyson face tattoo, but the others are okay. How many, have you had two women, I'm sure, at once? yes but that I did that before I was married and then I've done that twice with escorts where as I got to know them they just said you know one time hey I got like one time it's my birthday I was in

Texas and this one woman said I want to bring a present for you know like right on she brought a girlfriend oh nice and did you have to pay double or this was like a birthday gift no no no which or any of that kind of stuff right they're cool with you you're cool with them and what's the average age range that you see The average what? The age? Like, what's their average age? What's your age range that you look for?

My age range is like 35 to about 55. Nice, mature women. Yeah, I've had a couple of girls who have lied and said, you know, that they were in their mid-30s and they showed up and they were clearly in their early 20s. And you're not going to do that. You know, I just, you know, I get to be like one of my children. I just, there's no way.

Yeah, I was talking to my friend about that last night. I think I'm weird because I, I, I think girls get more attractive the older they get and they get more comfortable with themselves. I agree with that. So I don't think that's where I'm a normal guy. No, no, no, no. Not to cut you off. Yeah, not to cut you off.

But I think women, you know, most women, some women, they do definitely get more attractive when they get older. Yeah, I was talking to my friend last night about Bell Knox. You know that porn star? She was from Duke and she fucked someone on. Yeah. And she became so popular. Some guy in my building who was like 50-something was talking about how he wanted to fuck. And I was just like, you're like a little bit of a pedophile because to me she looks really, really young, like really young.

Like, not like women. And some young girls have very womanly bodies and they carry themselves and they seem older. But she just looks like, I don't know. And my friend was like, yeah, I'm not into that. And he's actually a guy that works on porn set sometimes and stuff. And he says sometimes you see these girls walk in. They're so young. He feels like I want to, he's like I feel like I'd rather buy them ice cream than watch them have sex.

Like, it's just too much. So I don't think you're that abnormal because you have Tommy here that's agreeing with you. You're that way, my other friends that way. And then you have a bunch of guys that are like pedophiles that want those really, really young girls. Yeah. Right? I don't get it. I'm not into that.

No, you always like older. You're like older or your age, whatever, but not like, oh, it has to be like a lot of guys. It has to be really young. One of my girlfriends 10 years ago was she was in her late 40s. She's in her 50s now. Right. She looked great. Right.

So you have, there's 50-year-old women that are out there escorting, right? I'm sorry. Your first part broke up. There's 50-year-old women out there that you put in your, and you get 50-year-old women escorting? Wow. Yeah, there's one girl I haven't seen her, but who pops up in my searcher shoes claims to be 64.

And probably looks, you know, in her pictures like she's 52 or 53. You never hired her? No, no, no, no. that's a little Right, that's like a fetish It's like a weird thing We had a guy that called in That was really into really older women

He was with a 60-something year old But I think that has That's like a thing, you know what I mean? Yeah Yeah, I think I'm going to become an escort Tommy It's my new job It doesn't sound bad I wish you well on your new venture

No I think for the women who are emotionally healthy and sexually free It can be a very good thing Right Like several of them are in a position in life so they don't want to date, but they do have sexual needs, and then they found, I have a colleague in another company that's not artifies, who's my age.

And four years ago, she became an escort because she was, you know, in and out of relationships. We all work a lot kind of in that C-suite. Right. And she wanted to have sexual partners and thought, well, I can make money. Right. And she charges a lot and makes a lot of money. And that, you know, after work, and she does it when she does it.

travels for work like I do to different cities. And she's on the preferred 411. Right. And she's on for 411411? Yeah. She's on there as a provider. Does she know that you're on there? Like, have you ever, has she ever come up in your searches? Does she give a shit about that? Yeah, no, we've talked. We've talked. They're not that she knows I'm on there, but we've talked from the perspective

when she was sharing with me what she was doing. Right, right, right, right, right. Oh, that's cool. Okay, well, this has been very interesting. Great podcast. right? Yeah, like I don't think that your life is mundane. I think it's interesting. And it's also, I think it's extra interesting because I don't think anybody that listens to this podcast

and listen to you can call you a cheater or could say what you do is wrong, you know. A lot of the people that call in are total cheaters and they're all the same, but you were a little bit different, which I think is very interesting because, you know, it exists. Yeah. And we would love to have you call back and check in with us and let us know how, everything's going with your wife if the you know the trials medication worked yeah when you

and that's going to breathe like imagine it does and then you're going to have like a whole new person to have sex with that and they're going to have a lot of experience to show her oh my gosh she's going to be like why are you so good at all this what happens I'd be happy to and and if you want to talk about

specific scenarios or instances that stuff I'd be happy to do that again and so thanks so much for your time I appreciate it definitely we always have repeat caller so we'll have you back on ray for sure so much have a good work bye right bye ray see he was not you know what at all the people and the serial cheaters that we've spoken with you you can't get on this guy that's why he sent him because you know he sent me a picture i could see him but of course he said to me he doesn't have to feel weird about who he is because he's a good guy no but he like cleared

it he like cleared it with his mom he cleared it with his doctor you know what i mean he cleared it with himself. And ultimately cleared it with himself. And he's doing it. So he stays in his relationship because he really loves her. 100% agree with you. Because it really showed, and it's weird to say this, is he loves his wife so much that he is going to an escort. Exactly.

And he's doing it on, like I said, in all the ways that I told my friend to do it that he didn't do it. Don't fucking tell people. Do it with an escort that you'll never know. Don't keep contact with him. Like he does, he's so good that if he's actually makes contact with him and his friends with him, he stopped sleeping with them because he doesn't want it to go there.

Like, he does everything in the perfect way. Yeah. I mean, he just has to, and he's smart because I think the therapist advised, you need, this is going to come out some way. What did the, oh, right. It's going to come out some way. It's going to come out a drinker or something. And it could have been. He could have been this drunk home with his wife.

He doesn't sleep with him. He could become very resentful. Yeah, very, yeah. So I think he's doing it the right way. He's having sex. He's a little bit of a workout. He's burning calories. and uh he's getting that needs met that his wife can but not because he doesn't love her and that

happens a lot of times this is what women need to know that this woman can't have sex like she's I feel so sorry for her hopefully she gets hopefully this medical treatment works yeah but for women out there that just don't like it or they don't feel like it or they feel like you know somehow like you know people need to have sex it is a part like it's a way to connect yeah you have to try to keep that going in a relationship. Because even a guy like Ray will have to go someplace. You can't go that many years without having sex. I've heard this before from other women that I know.

Like, oh, I haven't had sex with my guy for two years. And like, you don't think he's fucking anyone else now? Like, you know, they just think that the guy's supposed to stay faithful. It's a hard thing. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? It really is. But, yeah, should we have gotten more specific with some of his dirty deeds with these women?

No, I think that was a really good call. You think? I would. And you as the listeners, as I say before. for emails at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. Yeah, we like when we have listeners calling that call it, not just from Craigslist ads, because Ray was a listener who called the decision.

Not just a call in, but comment on Ray's call. You know what I mean? Yeah, I like when we get emails, yeah. On the next call in the beginning, we'll discuss your emails. And, you know, maybe you think we're crazy or something. So, you know, let us know. They always let us know that they have insults for me.

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