Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 029 - Ray K Gives Us the Details About his High End Escort Experiences

Episode Date: June 29, 2014

Ray K has been with over 100 escorts as well as famous porn stars and he calls in for the second time to give us the details about his hottest experiences. He talks about where he finds the best escorts, how much they charge, and what he gets to do with them when they arrive. He gets really detailed about some of his best experiences and discusses some of his worst. Tune in to hear it all.    **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. Craigslist is definitely the gift like it's not giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it. The temptation is just too much.

Real problem. Does your friend know that you're banging her? No, he has no idea. And anything goes. The motto of the show, let your reflect lie. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to re-hide your whips and change. Here are your hosts, Kathy Kay and Tommy. Hey, welcome to Strictly Anonymous Podcast with Kathy and Tommy.

How's it going, everybody? This is the part when I say, I want to hear from you. Kathy wants to hear from you. We want to hear from you. You can get in touch with us, best way, by email at strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. Strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. I always say, I want to hear what's going on, man. you're doing if you're into something you and your girl you and your escort you and your

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I'm on the mic. So today we have Ray Kay is calling back in. I love Ray Kay. Yeah, we're doing a part two with him. Because I felt like after we got off the call, me and you discuss this actually, not on the podcast, but right after we hung up,

I said, do you think that we should have, or maybe we discussed it afterwards, that we should have asked him more questions about the actual sex that happened with the escorts. Yes, and you're right, because I know the listeners want to hear.

That's what's interesting. Especially, and we get a lot of people saying, you make our commute to work. Good. Yeah. So what's better than hearing a little escort fuck sex story? six o'clock in the morning on your drive to work.

Right. And sometimes I ruin that because I asked too many questions about the backstory and stuff. I'm just like a cock, block. Were you not hugged as a child? Totally, totally. Did your girlfriend break up with you? Do you hate women?

No, but there was an interesting backstory with him. I'm sorry. I found it interesting. So he just had a lot to say. So we're doing a part two. So we're doing a part two, right? Instead of having a two hour podcast. Yeah, we're doing a part two.

So Ray can comment more about his escapades. Yeah, the specific details. And he wasn't, he's not just with, Kathleen spoke, which now I found that. I mean, he just wasn't with escorts. You know, as he said in the last podcast, he was on this website that, you know, really screened. Preferred 4-1-1.

Yeah, screen the clients and everything and whatever. Later to find out, I mean, he was with a lot of high, super high-end porn stars. Yes, he sent me a list. We can't talk because our show is strictly anonymous. The only person we've ever outed is Matt Dillon, remember? I was listening to a podcast

we did a while ago. Remember I said Matt Dylan fucked everybody in New York and he gave my sister's friend Chlamydia and he was well hung? So that was nice. I mean, I said he was well hung. Fuck you, Mad Dylan.

Yeah. So that was the only time we ever really mentioned names because we're not supposed to, it's strictly anonymous. I think that most interesting thing is just what happens between people. It doesn't matter who they are.

But the fact is he has, he sent me a list with names. I know them. You got to show it to me. Yeah, I will when we're on. And, you know, a lot of them are very well-known people that you would know with their pricing.

And he gave me probably like 20 of his top picks, regular girls who you could Google them and they're out there because, you know, all girls now, even lower NSW. You know, they have Twitters and they're on, they have a lot of shit going on. And these famous porn stars who I know, who you could Google

and you could see videos. And, you know, these are the people that he's with. And we're going to hear specific stories about them. Detail stories. I like this. Hot stories. And I won't cock block. And they're true stories. They're true And I won't cock block it by asking about, you know, whether he hates women secretly if he jizzes on their face or anything like that. I love the jizzpull.

Yeah, he hates women. He what? No. Every time someone says they jizzed on somebody's face. Lately, you know, you've been saying that, you know, we talked about it. Many podcasts are they women haters? You know what I mean? I'm getting a little bit of a stinking suspicion that some girls like hot come on their face.

Yeah, but we talked about that, Tommy. It's because they want to be degraded because they had bad fathers. But no, no, no, no. Don't go all psychotherapy on me. Maybe just the sensation of a hot liquid touching their face is what they like. That could be a reason. No, totally. But most of the time, what turns you on sexually, if it's a little bit specific like that,

a lot of times has a tie to think. If you are a girl that likes just the feeling of hot liquid coming out of somebody's penis on your face and you weren't not hugged or something weird happened. Strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com and tell me, you know what, Tommy, I just like hot liquid on my face. Totally.

Oh, I want to tell you, Jamie Chelle emailed me on Facebook because she heard her podcast. She's still a listener. And she emailed me on podcast saying like, oh, I didn't really mean.

Like she was cool. Like I felt bad. I sent her an email back. But when I went in my... I called her a cunt. That was even worse. I know, but you know me.

I'm not really mean like that. Like I would say, say that to my, I call on. I would say my friend's a cunt or face too if you're mad at somebody for the moment. So what did she say? Not that deep. She said, here, I'll get the, I'll get the email. I can't find it because it's, I'm, my phone's not working in your house and we're in Tommy's house. Again, we're Tommy's bar actually doing the podcast. Yes, we are taping live from time score. Yeah, basically she explained herself, you know, because I think I was really rude. And she said she's still a listener. And I wrote her back, but for some reason I don't see my

my email sent back and I said, you know, listen, she was right about some of the things that she said. And that was it. That's it? It was nice. She was nice. She was nice. And I was mean.

As long, Jamie, as long as we didn't scare you way as a listener. Exactly. I mean, I just say that stuff like as a joke. You know, it's like,

you say it to me, I could say it back. Like, you know what I mean? If you insult me, I insult you back kind of thing. Like, we could all handle it, take it.

I'm not mad at her. I love Jamie for listening. She's, one of our listeners. That's the most important thing. Yeah, exactly. Now back to Ray. Yeah, Ray Kay. All right. So this is the Ray Kay Part 2 show, right? Yeah. And where he's going to tell about his wild escapades with all these high-end escorts, right? Yeah, actually. Yeah. What I wanted to talk about, though, because I was telling someone this story that happened to me is a story about something that happened to me in a health food store when I almost got raped by the guy in the health food store.

It's not like a I know, but it's not like I didn't get raped But like there's this health food store You can put a knife to your neck No, just closed down in my old neighborhood I walked past it and reminded me of what happened Like many years ago when I lived in this neighborhood

I went into this health food store I had like cramps or something And I wanted to know what I could take for cramps Right And so this South African dude And me, the owner of the place He was the only guy in the building okay and me he came over and he started helping me and he's at one place he got behind me

and he was like feeling my stomach and shit you know like where's the cramps yeah exactly and you know and he said you know maybe you need a massage or like we do this we have a back room and like somehow this is during my drinking days I think I was hung over or something because I don't know thinking about what I did now like I would never do this but like he somehow got me into the back room of this place okay he said why don't you come in the back room, I could give you a massage, it'll work. And he locked the door, okay, to the place. So now nobody else could come in. It's just me and this big South African man. He gets me into this back room that has like a bed, a bed. It's not even a massage table, okay? It's like a bed

couch thing. And he says, lay down like on your back, okay? And this is like not even like a drunken memory. This is like, I'm totally straight. This is during the day at like 11 o'clock good day. And so I lay down and he starts like rubbing my feet and he's massaging my back and he's like, he asked me if I'm a model and like right there, that's when you know things are going awry. Okay. Because I'm not a model and like that's like the cheesiest thing you could say. That's like the most fucked up thing you could say to somebody. You know that that guy's looking you now as a sex object. Do you know what I mean? Like it's a weird. That's a setup for a good old fashion rachel. Are you? Are you ever a model? Are you a model? You're like, oh no. It's

It's raping time. No, but it's like, no, but thank you for saying I'm pretty now. I want to fuck you. Like, that's what a guy thinks. Like, it's like the ultimate compliment or something. What is that about guys? Are you a model? Like, he says, you're a model.

I'm like, oh, my God. So then he starts, like, massaging my back. And then he tells me to lean, like, to lay over on my side. And he comes over. And so I'm laying on my side and my ass is to him, right? And now he's standing behind me and he's massaging now my chest area, not my tits, but right above. And this is what I know it's fucked up.

You know what I mean? Like something's going on. And then he pushes into me and I could feel his hard cock. Like he's hard. Okay, I can feel his heart on my ass while he's massaging my upper chest area. And for one second, this is how nuts I used to be. For one second, I thought, I was like thinking to myself like, wow, this is so interesting that like just 20 minutes ago, I was out on the street and it's a beautiful day out. And now I'm in this back room and this, you know, this guy.

Yeah, like to me I'm like fascinated kind of by the whole situation. Like I'm sort of outside of myself, you know. And then I snapped back into myself and I knew I had to get out of the situation. I said, oh my God, you know, you should just stop and I don't need this and it's okay. And for one second he was about to like, I could tell he thought about it. Like he was either going to go further or not let me stop. And he stopped. And then we went out.

And he started giving me all these things. to take it. I don't want to put anything in my mouth that he was giving me, because I'm like, he's going to fucking give me a roofier shit, you know, and he's shoving all these pills and he won't let me leave until I take it. So I put it like in my mouth and I drank some water and I called all my friends and he finally let me out and I called my friends. I'm like, if I die

in the next 45 minutes, like you need to know, this is what happened to me, this is where I was, you know what I mean? Because how do you know? And I wasn't killed and I was fine and I wasn't roofied and I didn't get raped but that place closed down their health food store,

And that's what I thought about it. You ever have a near rape experience? No, I haven't. That's because you're a guy. Women don't rape men. Well, no, I mean, yeah. No, women don't rape men. Yeah, why not?

Well, you know what? That's a good question. Yeah. What do you mean the question? No, that's a good question. Have you ever been raped by a woman? Uh-huh. You have your guy and you've been raped by a woman,

a woman's... It doesn't happen. It's got to be possible. It doesn't. There's one man who... There was one woman man rape story, and it's a documentary. It's a fucking cool, hilarious documentary about this woman. I forget her name was she supposedly kidnapped a man and raped her who didn't want to marry her.

And it was like turned into a documentary, but it's supposed to be like not true. I don't know. Yeah. No, I don't get that. I mean, because if a woman rapes you and you get hard, technically you're into it, right? Right, right. You can't really rape a guy without him. How do you do that in court?

And the judge be like, well, did you get hard? Yeah, well, how did the fuck did she rape you? You know what I mean? I have an ex-boyfriend who was getting beat up by his wife. That's another thing. Like, you don't think that men get beat up. Oh, they do. Yeah, like his wife would like beat the shit, like would beat him up.

Like, he's an abused husband. He wasn't. He had divorced her. He was an abused husband. That does happen. What? That does happen. I am very aware of that.

You think more so than rape, man rape? Yes. I don't think man rape really happens. No, because once a girl, even if you're, let me ask you this, Tommy. If you're not attracted to a woman, okay, and she grabs it, right? Like it just starts doing, like, will you just by default for the actual just action of somebody touching, like, get hard, or you have to be someone attracted to her? I don't know. I never been in that position.

Usually I have to be attracted to somebody to get hard. So it doesn't matter. Like, if it was just some, like, old lady. You know I know you're all into old ladies. She crudured up the street in her walker and started rubbing my cock. I don't think it would work now. No? No.

So you could be raped. You could be forcibly, like, forced to have sex and nothing that the woman was doing to you would be hot. Yeah, but how would she rape me if my penis wasn't hard? I don't know. She could grope me. Right. A man could be groped. Right.

Well, technically I wasn't raped by him, but the fact that he was massaging my chest area and his hard dick was up against my ass, you know what I mean? Like, you know, it wasn't like rape, but like he was trying to do something. That could have went bad. It sounded like that was a. going somewhere really wrong fast. I know, but I thought it was like hilarious. I like how you said, well, when I was laying on my side and he started touching right above my chest, is when I kind of thought something wasn't right.

Just maybe the part when he said come into a back room, I would have been like, no, I'm right. I know, but I have like, something, I must have been molested when I was younger. Something happened to me because, like, I have like a really, like, weird sort of idea of what's right or wrong. I could intellectually know that something's not right, but somehow I don't experience it. Like I had, I always would say I want to write a book. I'm going to have a chapter called My Shrink, the Paralyzed Lesbian. Because when I was younger and I went to high school, I was thrown out of three high schools.

I was very bad. And my last high school I had to get like a child study team, which included a therapist. And I had a therapist and she loved me too much. Like she loved me so much that she like would lie to my parents about my boyfriend. She would get like, it was like weird. And I always felt a little weird with her. Even though I loved her as my therapist, she always would like look at her tits and look at me. and she would always grab,

she would always pinch my ass and tell me that I had a nice ass. And she'd also, I know, so you look at your eyes, you go like, whenever people hear that. I know, but I didn't know, and I still don't know. It was like weird.

Like, so she would pinch my ass and tell me I had nice ass. She'd make me sit on her lap. Well, things were different. Things were different back in the 70s. But I was 16. When you were in high school. I was, it was the 80s.

I was like, you know, I'm talking 16 years old. So I'm sitting on her lap. I know. And just so you know. No, to this day, I still, and then, so what happened was, the reason why I stopped seeing her is I always thought she would make a pass at me. And one day, my last school was trying to throw me out again, like another third school trying to throw me out. So we had a whole meeting with all of the people, my parents, and she said, Kathy, I want you to meet me before the meeting in my car alone so we could have a discussion to make sure that you're cool with this.

And I said, okay, and I really started to get nervous because I thought this is the time she's going to rate me. Like she's going to make her move, right? Yeah. Because somehow this was all going down, right? Like something was going on, right? Yeah. So I meet her and in her car. And she doesn't do anything.

We talk. We have copy and everything. And then we go and she said, I want you to sit very close to me in the meeting so that if you get rude or anything, because I have a tendency to lash out, especially when I was younger, like I was very bad, you know, and very bad, especially against authority figures.

I'll pinch you. You know what I mean? She was going to try and keep me under wraps. So I had to sit very close to her. And she had, you sat on her hand? No, worse. So we're, so now we're in the meeting, okay? And I'm sitting at a table.

I'm only like 16 years old, right? I have every authoritative person around me, right? My mother, my father, everybody in the school, the child study team. Like, it's all everybody against me. The kitten caboodle. Everybody's there. Everybody against me. And my therapist is sitting really close to me.

And they started, of course, all getting up in me. I was very bad. By this point, I was very unruly. I probably deserved to be thrown out of that. at school too. So they're all talking really terrible about me. And I'm getting fucking pissed. And when I would get pissed, I'm screaming at everybody.

So of course, she starts rubbing the inside of my leg. Like the inside of my leg. Like Tommy, if you look, I'm showing Tommy. Yeah, like way upper thigh, yeah? Yeah, rubbing the inside of my thigh. But I can't do anything about it because I'm in front of everybody, right? But I experience rage like I've never had because I'm like, what the fuck is going on, right?

But what am I supposed to say? And to this day, I don't know, is like that inappropriate? Yeah, they're not even supposed to hug you. I know. That's what I've been told, but that's what's wrong with me. Like, somehow I could, like, get out of myself and I don't know if things are right or wrong. But that's what she knew. Even though I know they're wrong.

No, but that's what she knew. She knew you didn't know the difference. Right. She knew I was a fucking damaged person. Yeah, but that's what's wrong with those people. Right. They fucking, they're predators, dude. They prey on people because they went to,

for this she was a you know she was a doctor she was a therapist and in her sick twisted thing she knew how fucked up she knew you didn't know the boundaries of what she could cross and what she couldn't cross right that i and she did it in front of so many people that what i was like outnumbered who would believe me i was in front of everybody that hated me well that's exactly there right who's going to believe this fucked up kid who's been thrown out of every school who would lie and i was never a liar but i was fucked up but that's what the whole thing i was aggressive And I was like, you know. You know, who's going to believe this kid who's all messed up over me who's never had a...

You know what I mean? So that's the problem with those people. But... Rubbing my leg underneath and then rubbing the back of my neck underneath my hair. It got me so enraged I wanted to fucking kill her. But did it keep you calm for the meeting? No. What do you mean calm?

No, I flipped out more because I was so angry that she was doing that. It made me more angry and I couldn't say anything. To the point where after that experience, when I would be friends with people, if I didn't like somebody like a guy friend of mine, it was always guys. If they touched me and touched my arm, if I wasn't attracted to them, it would make me fucking enrage. And they weren't touching me inappropriately. But it was just because I felt like violated because that moment and I would become so angry.

But I would never tell anyone why I was angry. I wouldn't say, don't touch my arm because I would feel like I'm a fucking freak. Like who can't touch someone's arm? But it was because I associated somebody. touching me that I'm not attracted with rage that every time that happened to me later in my life that's how I felt and I could never tell anyone about it because I didn't even know if it was fucking wrong to this day I'm like if someone rubs your leg was like she just being nice was I wrong no I know everyone has the same reaction and I know intellectually but this is why I could be

almost raped and I don't know what's happening not now but I know at the health food store yeah yeah if someone asks you to come into the back room you say no for now on, okay? Write that on your wrist. Okay. You're like, wait a minute. Let me just check. He wants me to come into this back room of this deli.

Let me look at my wrist. Nope. Sorry, sir. I don't think this is a good idea. He's rubbing my top of my chest and he just asked me if I was the model. That's wrong, right? Do you model for Sears? Yeah, so that's what I need to call into someone else's podcast for that problem.

but we're going to come back on with who we have on. Dick Rabbit. No, we're with Ray Kay. Oh, sorry. I'll Google that out. So wait. You'll Google it out? I know.

I'll delete all this out. I'll do. So wait, so we have to get back to our caller because if my problems are not interesting. That's a whole other series of 50 shows. Yeah, we'll be right back with Ray Kay and the escorts. Part two. Part two, the Escapade episode.

Yeah, the details. That's hard. I could say that 10 times 12. What? Escapade. Escapade. No, Escapade episode. Escapade episodes.

There you go. All right, all right. All right. We get it. Okay, we'll be right back. Bye. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you.

Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast. Email.com with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Strictly anonymous. Hey, Ray Kay, so you're on the call with me and Tommy. How you doing, Ray? Good. Good to talk to you guys again. Yeah, so this is your part two, and I'm part two, what we want you to do, because I don't

think we got into it enough on the other call, is give us, like, specific detail information of stuff that happened. You had sent me an email with some, you know, more details about the, you know, actual porn stars that you found on, on preferred 4-1-1. You're not going to give names, but we want to know, like, your best and worst scenarios, like the specific scenarios. I think listeners want to hear more details.

Yeah. So start with the worst ones, maybe. Like the third or fourth woman I saw, and she's pretty prominent on Preferred 4-1 and other sites up in the Seattle area. And I use this, my email, introduction to kind of also check out the girls and screen them. And I don't do really well with people who are rude or don't treat it like a real appointment, like a business appointment.

Mm-hmm. And so I'm looking for like a timely response and things like that. And everything was great in the emails. And then when she showed up at my hotel, she was very demanding, which at first was a little weird, like telling me where to sit and what to do more. Right. I thought I'd go with it. But then when we started fooling around,

she called her pussy her kitty, which I hadn't heard before, but she would think it was like, it was so annoying. And it was every two seconds, it was touch kitty here. Kitty doesn't like that. It was all like in the third person. Did you tell her that you hate fucking cats? I'm a dog person, right? I did tell her, I didn't want to be rude, but I did tell her it wasn't working for me and ended the appointment. But the weird part was that she had emailed me at a number two or three times afterwards asking

for another appointment to kind of do better and make it up to me. Oh, wow. And, of course, yeah, I never saw it again. It was just weird. But that was probably one of my worst experiences. Do you have to pay her? In that kind of a scenario, do you pay her? Pardon me?

Do you pay her? Did you have to pay her? Fees for their time. It's not what you do. And so I feel like if, you know, once I open the door, if I let them in the room and I owe them that fee for their time, I wouldn't someone steal away from that. Right. And so on preferred 4-1-1, do the escorts, like, email guys soliciting them as well, or do they just wait for the guy to email them?

For the guy, she wanted it's never shot because I think she felt like it wasn't a good appointment, and she wanted to make it a good appointment. Yeah, she had bothered her ego. Yeah, I've never contacted me on solicit. Right, okay, so that was, right, that's what I was wondering. I didn't think so. Yeah, that was a bad one. And then, sorry, I didn't put on that list. I sent you because it was a bad. experience but she's really big in kind of a that mills world and I was in L.A. and had scheduled appointment with her and it was pretty good. Like right when she walked into the hotel, she literally went through a menu of things that she would do like in a restaurant and asked me to go

through what I wanted to do. And I told her because it kind of killed all the illusion of romance and sedate. Right. And then, so I told for that, and we talked through it. And so she said, well, I'm really sorry, but I've already paid it. And so I thought, well, I think I could do that. And it was pretty fun, but it wasn't when I was used to. And for me, it was a good experience because it was just, there wasn't any sensuality, there wasn't any romance, it was just, she did something that no one had ever done against the headboard,

and she said, and I'd never have this one. Which I remember just kind of thinking, well, that's interesting, and I don't really know what that means. I don't say. And so she, you know, she kneeled above my face and just kind of controlled everything with her hips. Uh-huh. And it was really, it was really sexy. It was pretty incredible. I was an experience that was pitted just because it wasn't a connection right at the beginning.

But I did go through with that, which afterwards I felt a little bit like a pig, but then I thought, well. Yeah, it's what the hot showers for. Don't worry about it. It all watches all. Oh, really? Is that what it is? Yeah, it all. That goes away pretty quick.

Right. I saw her in her city. It's a major pretty big city. I think she's one of the more famous tattooed girls. And when she came in, you know, just jet black hair and a little top of off with a T-shirt or a nice business suit or whatever. Right. But not dressed like they're looking like they're in that sport. Right.

And she came in, she was dressed and it was just really weird. It was real hot. It was August. And when she came in, it was just like almost one of the things where, I don't know how this, like, for you, Kathy's a woman. And Tommy here, if you ever felt like sometimes you look at a woman and you're just like, holy crap, that's just like the coolest thing in the world. It's almost like art, just really lovely. And so she came in and had one of those moments, and she caught me saying. And Katana started diggling, and you can see that persona of her escort go away.

And then the woman who she really is was there. And she's like, you know, what's so funny what's going on? You know. And so I explained to try. She's just like, oh, my God. It's like, you're just so pretty. And we sat there and chatted then just talking on the bed for probably an hour. And it was only an hour appointment.

Right. And then she said, well, what's something you've always wanted to do that you've never done? And I couldn't think of anything because at that point I was still kind of exploring what I wanted to do and so forth. And so I said, I don't know, but I said, I'm open to anything. Uh-huh. And so I said, I don't know. of them and she kind of shadow me and she was just just running there and stuff and she whispered and she said

get ready for the ride of your life that's a really never forget it and I just thought and so she started with a blow job and it was amazing and at that point really yeah it was crazy I couldn't chat and she says are you ready for them

yeah we talked about that last time and I told her I said I was effort into it and I felt kind of bad I'm like you can work as hard as you walk but I don't think it's going to happen and so we did We did doggy for a long time, and she was really tall. I'm very tall, and she was in heels almost as tall as I am. Right. And so she did this thing where I usually stay in nicer hotels,

and there was a pretty large mirror opposite of the bathroom. Right. In big hallway. And so she grabbed the sides of the mirror and bent over so I could be behind her and kind of watch everything. Really close then. That was pretty cool. and she said finally she said stop and she would just paint my face

which I've never heard of before. That's Kathy's favorite thing in the whole world. Jizz on her face she met? Yes, she did. We keep talking about this. Why do you like that? No, I don't like that. I have a whole, no, we talked about this in a podcast.

I went through a whole jizz poll about like guys that like to jizz and girls' faces. It's just this thing. Kathy thinks people who jizz on girls' faces hate women. Yeah. Like you didn't specifically want to. do that because we know he doesn't. You're right. She likes to be degraded.

Maybe. Not about doing that. It's like, why? Yeah, I think women like it. The heavily tattooed woman. Okay, so go on. So she says, paint my face. Yeah, so she said that.

And I was kneeling, you know, on the bed, and she was on and she was on and she's kind of, you know, standing. And she's using her hand and blowing it. And it probably went on for like 20 minutes. Uh-huh. And then I did arrive again. I mean, I did come again. That's awesome.

And when I did, it was, it was, well, but it was like she was like, kind of almost like using my cock like a, like a paintbrush on her face. And she seemed to really like it. Sweet. It was very straight. Let me tell you what Tommy's doing while you're talking. He is on the preferred 411 website, mesmerized by the women that you could get. It's crazy, right?

It's crazy. There are just millions of them here. Unbelievable, but all very high end. Very high end. Yeah, it's not like a, you know, like I heard you got talked about Craigslist. It's not like where you go. No, definitely not. This is a very, this is the reserve list here.

Yeah, Tommy's on the iPhone, so I keep seeing him make things like bigger, like pictures bigger. I was like, her tits really that big. Yeah. Yeah, there's everything you could imagine on there, right? Everything. But, I mean, I'm talking. these are the the creme de la creme of their profession we'll put it that way the reserve list

but yeah after we hang up i can email you in my password and such and you can then you'll have to laugh at the wife i don't think that would go over too well with the wife he'd get in trouble he'd be like why are you looking at these women i was like oh this guy sent me his passcode no that's not a good idea it sounds like a lie but it actually is the true truth. Yeah. Yeah, you would never, she would never believe it. Okay, so you actually came twice with her, and did she charge you for the extra time, or she stayed with you for that extra time?

Oh, no. I've never, ever asked for more money or anything like that, ever. Do you throw them a tip because they stay longer? I always feel like if I'm handing them money or anything like that, it seems to kind of, for me anyway, degrade the experience. Uh-huh. What I usually do is I put the cash and then the gift cards I get them into a greeting card. And I just leave that, you know, if we're having wine or whatever, I just leave that in a place where I know they'll see it and take it. I've actually, in all my experience, I've only had one woman count for money in front of me.

Most of them don't even look at it. Right. I guess that's just the classy thing. That's the way that you're supposed to do business, right? You just trust if the guy's paid you, it's there. You always tip all your girls? Like, does every girl get a gift card or a little extra cash on the side? Yeah, I do something that first time for all of them.

And then if it's really like a neat experience that I want to repeat, then the next time I usually do something with a little more tailored and generous. Like what? Like if they need airline miles or something like that or an airplane ticket, I'll buy that. But something that, you know, I'll just ask them, I'll say, look, I don't want to get you a generic gift card, what something you would really like. And I've had, you know, women say they needed a new laptop or whatever. And then usually if I do something like that, then, you know, the next.

They're staying there. They're going to stay overtime. Well, but like the girl, the woman I got the laptop for, she didn't charge me for the next two appointments because she felt like that was, you know, too much of a gift. That's nice. That's fine. For the women that are really honest and healthy, I don't, I've never felt taking advantage up.

They're usually very, very fair and good, you know. So, go ahead. No, go on with your next experience, right? Well, I was going to say that it made me think of one of the women who was in San Diego for a long time, and she's probably 45, something like that, and she's now been in Vegas because I guess business is better in Vegas. When I saw her the first time in San Diego, you know, she told me what kind of wine she liked when I got the line. We had our session. It was great.

And then she was there, gosh, our session was like at five and me out and noon. She didn't lead to almost 11, just drinking wine and chatting and, you know, just kind of fooling around. And so most of the women are pretty, they're pretty generous, I sent you, but, gosh, prominent. Did you guys, did you guys, did you guys look at that list? Did you check out their website and stuff? Yes, I did. I mean, there were some people that I knew of because they were that well known. Oh, okay.

On the escort side or the porn star side? No, the porn. star side. I mean, I can't say names, but I think a lot of people will know some of these because they've been on like the stern show. You know what I mean? They're like, they're out there. So, you know. Yeah. She's by far the best sexual experience I've ever had. Really? The redhead that's on the Stern show that people could put two and two together. That's okay. Yeah. You're getting her business. She was like the best sex you ever had. Oh, by far. I feel every every chance I get.

It's a super cool person, genuine nice, you know, very, like, you know, when you're just chatting, like if we're not all having coffee and chatting, there's some who will tell you about their kids or whatever others who say, you know, I don't talk on personal life, which is fine. I respect that, but they want to know about my personal life. Right. And so those usually I don't connect with, but she's, I mean, just, I mean, you've seen beautiful face, stunning body, super sensual. uses like when we're having sex

uses her legs a lot like to wrap her legs around me or you know it's like if I'm if I'm performing oral on her one of the things she does which for me was a new thing too but she kind of like puts her feet on my shoulders

and then she'll grab my head and then she'll kind of direct traffic that way and I don't know why it's so sexy it just is it's almost she's very sensual so I almost feel like I could never tell you you how we go from having a

cocktail in my suite to being naked on the bed. I could never tell you how that happens. Right, because it's so natural. But that's what's hot, right? That's what you like. Oh, it's so cool. And yeah, unbelievable. And again, I never had that thing either.

Right. Yes. No, I heard that with guys before. You know, there's something about like the hands and the mouth if you use everything, I mean, that, you know, no vage could do on its own. because there's a couple things. If you have two hands and a mouth, right, giving you head,

like that could be a really hot experience. Very. And I think, like, what's been fun, it's because they really like it. They seem to really like performing it. Like, I like performing oral on a woman, and I think that makes, if you like doing it, it kind of makes you better at it.

100%. Yes, absolutely. Because I always tell guys, like, if a guy says to me, like, oh, the girl gave me the worst head, I'm like she either gives bad head or she didn't like you. You know what I mean? Because sometimes I think like it could be because, you know, a girl,

if a girl really likes a guy, like she wants to really get him off, like she'll work really hard and she's really into it. Or there's just girls like you said that they just love giving head because it is a way that they're, you know, you're turning a guy on and that's hot. So and that's what makes for a good blowjob because you know that she really like likes it. Yeah. And that kind of changes. the whole experience.

So she's on the escort or on the Porn Star side, she's by far the coolest. The redhead. Yeah. The problem with the Porn Star Girls is there, you know, they really are much, much more expensive.

But, you know, it's like you can get a regular escrow of the price, even on preferred 411. And so it does limit the kind of amount of fun you can have if you have any kind of a financial restriction, which most of us do. Yeah. Right, exactly, because they are a little bit more.

But some of the regular girls are hot, too, right? Oh, gotcha. Like, in that list of the escort who are from my favorite. The one on there, there's a real Paul Brunette who's, if you look at her website, it's all business. So she looks like she could be an executive at Gillette or something. Right, right. She's probably one of my favorite people. And she was one who actually I stopped seeing because I felt like, man, I could really be in trouble.

where like I could have feelings. For her. Interesting. Yeah, because it's like she's the kind of woman who like I see at work. So it's like when you sit down, she only takes her and usually what I do is I put her on like a retainer is what I've done for the whole year and I pay her up front. Wow. So every time I see her, I'm not giving her money or anything like that. And she has an assistant so her assistant kind of, you know, gives me, I don't think, first ride at the time, but, you know, gets me.

in. But once in a day we'll chat about, you know, business and and finance and some other things that are interesting me or politics. We'll chat for a couple hours in her suite. And then it's like a light switch turned kind of gilky and she'll start laughing. Probably for me, the thing about her is because

she's so tall and I'm tall is she loves missionary, which has never really done anything for me as her you know, bikes and so big I've always been afraid I was going to, you know, crush the woman or something. Right. And you know, the first time we were together, and she was with black stockings, which I think are just really sexy.

So the first time we're together, she was performing oral, and we were having fun and playing around, and then she rolled over on her back, and she said, I want you to get on top of me. And, you know, I told her, I say, I don't want her training, she said, I want you to put your full weight on me. Right. I remember just thinking, and I'm not fat, I'm just big,

I never just thinking, gosh, you want me to do it. Yeah, no, I totally get that. Oh, yeah. And then when I did that, but she started, even when I've been, Michigan, the woman kind of just both laying there, you know? Right. She was doing this thing with her.

She was gripping my cot with her pussy. Oh my God, that's fantastic. Yeah, you can make it tight. It was the coolest thing. And then what she did was she would put, and she had super long legs, you guys saw. She would put her legs on my shoulders, which I'd never had happen either because my shoulders are way too high for a woman, you know? Right, but not for her.

And then, oh, God, I'm looking in her eyes and even just while we're, we're, how sex just laughing and talking and I mean I'll it's amazing and then you know usually what we do is after after we've had fun and she just kind of puts on jeans and a sweatshirt and we go down and grab coffee or something like that and hang out and as stunning as she looks for her business outfit she looks equally as cute just in her kind of you know scrungy street clothes but that that whole missionary thing with how she works her her pussy is amazing I don't even not really how describe it it's almost like it's a hand or something You know, it should be very controlled.

That sounds amazing. Have you had that, Tommy? Have you had a girl do that to you, Tommy? These are not the kind of escorts you ever had, right? No, I didn't have that budget back in the day. Tommy was just too drunk and he was just trolling Craigslist. That were you find your girls? We're just referrals.

Oh, right, right. So they were like cheaper? I guess. Didn't have any of those tricks that there's leave? No. I don't even think they slept with me. I was probably so wasted. He just took your money.

Yeah, they would take my money and wake me up and be like, like I had a good time. I loved it. Yeah, hilarious. You got to be careful now that you're married. No, I don't. I'm retired. I'm retired.

Well, I just spend it if your wife hears any of those stories. Oh, well, you know what? I mean, we kind of have a policy now. The past is the past. I mean... She doesn't listen to the podcast. She doesn't listen and she doesn't want to hear it. But, you know, I think, you know, she met me when I was in full swing.

And, you know, that's it. You can't get in a time machine and go back and change things. I mean, you can only do what we're doing now. But, yes, I could fully imagine the- The Kung Fu Grip Pussy. Tommy was Googling those girls. I mean, how do you choose one when they're all so hot? Oh, my God.

Into kind of athletic women. I typically like tall women. But, you know, like that one porn star is my tall. She's actually kind of short. but there's just some about her. You know, it's like when I actually saw the photo of her face, I'm like, oh, my God, she's just so beautiful, you know. Right.

Do you make out with these people? Do you kiss these people? Is they're making out with these people? Oh, gosh, yeah. Yeah. Matter of fact, that particular woman, the first time, you know, when we started kids, being responsible and kind of, I guess, a little type A.

I'm always a little bit stressed in all. And she grabbed the first time when it's just, She got in the back of my head, and she said, she pulled back, and she said, give me your tongue. And then she said, just relax and give me your tongue. And then it was like, I could have, honestly, I could have come just for my kissing. Right. It's really sexy. So for me, like, if you look on preferred parole, and you can put in the, if you want, you know, white kissing, you know, heavy kissing, deep kissing.

And so you can scream with them based on, you know, if you want a kiss or not. Right. because some of them don't want to. I feel like that's what I would always think. Yeah. Cushing is really important. Right. It's not like a romantic thing.

It's a sexual thing, I think. He turns you on. It gets everything going. Yeah, I don't know if people could have sex without kissing for a while first. Yeah, I love kissing. I think it's a very sexual thing. Yet I had a booty call guy once for a really long time, and I never really kissed him. And it was really hot.

And that's not normally how I am, but it just worked that way with that person. but most of the time I love to kiss it's a part of like the hotness and it gets you going but for some reason I'm here to tell you that you could find someone that you're really into and you don't kiss and it's just as hot like it's weird but anyway back to you yeah no it can be cool

well that the on that list I think there's one Las Vegas there's lots of bonds in Vegas so I'm not saying too much we were talking last time and I told you I've done annual twice because the women

and had asked for it. And she was one of the women who had asked me to do that. Right. And so we were just chatting and having wine, and she said, excuse me, I'm going to go to the bathroom for a second. She came out dressed in this,

you know, kind of sexy black number with stockings and stuff. Then I knew it was kind of like game on. And so we're kissing and pooling around. And it was, I mean, it was probably five minutes into it. And some of the women, it's like I think kind of like cursing and dirty talk

can be sexy if it's natural to the person. but it's kind of put it on, I don't find it sexy. And she just, she just kind of hopped on the bed on all the horses. And I was just like, and I was like, why don't hurt you? And so I'm like, why don't hurt you? And so the whole time I'm behind her,

she was just saying, we're sexy, you know? Like, you know, you want to come in my ass. You want to come in my ass, don't you? Come on and come from me. I was just like, it was almost like she was a coach, you know, kind of cheering yondering my pushups or something, you know? and that didn't last too long. So matter of fact, I was just supposed to see her this last week in Vegas,

but something came up and she had to cancel. So you saw someone else? I can imagine. So did you see somebody else? No, I'm not, you know, my schedule is so tight in life that if something like that happens, I just, you know, I move on to work. Right, so it fell through so you didn't see her. Yeah, I would have had to schedule or cancel.

work meetings I had scheduled for that evening and things like that. I'm right it's a bummer but I understood and she's never done that before I've seen her for three years and she's never done that before so that was just like really like she just really wanted you to fuck her in the ass so I could see why you get really turned on because it sounds like most

of the time with these women with you what it is that you like and I think that it happens with you is like you want to know for real that these girls are really into you. I tell them in that my initial email it's not just about me I want them to have fun and and I always tell them if I don't want you do anything you don't really want to do

you know and if there's something you want to do cool tell me if I don't want to do it all you know but it is important to me that they have fun to you I don't feel like it's just all about me and and when you know usually when I get to know the girls when we talk about other clients that they have and stuff I would say for the most part the girls I tend to see how really good clients who seem to be very kind towards them and generous which is important but there's only the few who you just think, you know, come on. You know, you think being a douchebag is going to get them to put out hold for you. Right.

And then the girl doesn't want to see them again. And then, you know, guys can get blacklisted. And what I found is the community of escorts, they do these meat and greet. And the girls in these different cities all talk. What do you mean meeting grades? They'll do a thing like 30 or 40 escorts will get together. And you have to be invited to it. And you go, and it's in a bar.

And you get to meet different girls. And they get to see if they like you and you like them. and you schedule an appointment off of that. Oh, mean, greet for customers, but while they're there, they talk to the other girls

about the guys that are there. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm, you know, we've talked, I've talked to several about how they do that,

and I'm actually okay with it because a lot of them are doing it for safety. They'll just say, hey, this guy was a jerk, or he was rude, or, you know, if he slapped my ass too hard,

or whatever it is. Right. They're not talking about your personal shit. They're not talking to be gossipy or, like, you know. No, no. And then, I'm preferred 411.

They also do a thing to the guys where women can look, and they can look at what's in my profile and see what the other escorts who have okayed me have said about me. Oh, so they leave comments. So you have comments under your name? Can't see them. Only the escorts can. And I had one of the girls offered to log on and let me see. But I felt like, you know, if the client's not supposed to see that part, then I'm okay not seeing it.

Oh, but come on. Don't you have any scopage? him what someone has said about you? Yeah, I'd want to know. Yeah, don't you want to know? It gives one comment. I did ask. And what was your comments?

You know, they said they don't talk like about talk size or anything like that, but they do talk about, you know, if the person was respectful, they have, like, boxes they can check. Right. And if it would see them again, and if on there, like, you know, are they their all-time favorite client, are they a client that they kind of put up with, or a client that they would prefer not to say? so they give you ratings like that.

And according to her, I had all nine's and ten. Right. Interesting. I would think that girls would be like, you know, sort of, I mean, they're like, they're close with each other and they're not in competition for like the richest guy or the guy that gives the most presents. Like they want other girls to get that guy too. I would think that they would be a little bit,

just because of the human nature of women, a little bit sort of maybe not wanting other, to let other women know that this guy is like really good and he's very generous because they would. want to keep it to themselves. That happened. Right. Yeah, that happens.

One of the escorts that I saw for quite a while, some of the hiring ones have assistants to do their screening and their booking and all that. And then she had another one in a different city and it was the same assistant. And the assistant had told the first escort that, hey, you know, one of your favorite clients was looking to go over here. And so then the second escort had emailed me and just said, hey, out of respect for this other woman I'm not you know I'm not going to see you and I actually thought it was kind of shitty because so why should they be my only escort exactly yeah and so what I did was as I

scheduled my next appointment with her and we didn't fool around I just told her I said you know I'm not going to feed again here's why I just don't think it's cool and what did she say she must been horrified to lose the business I think she was more hurt but she know it's funny but I saw part of her that was really like you said, possessive and almost angry. And I just don't do well with that in any relationship. You know, I just don't feel like you put shackles on people. And so for me at that point,

whether she would have said, hey, I'm sorry, and that's fine, I was done. Right. And then it's interesting because that other escort, our schedules have not meshed up, but I just emailed her last week, and I'm going to see her in July. So you book that far out, because you're doing these girls on the road. right travel schedule for work I do a lot of speaking for other companies and so my my speaking schedule actually books about six to nine months out uh-huh when I know I'm going to the city to

speak or to do a conference then I know I'm going to have certain appointments and so I want to block out time if I'm going to see a woman so usually I'd book about a month out right all the girls that you sent me in the list you fuck them all yeah oh yeah I wouldn't send you ones I didn't Right. The first really liked and had fun with. And then the second one was just regular escorts that are some of my favorite. Right. Yeah, I wish I could name names because I would want to know specifically.

But I can't. There was one that I really knew from Howard that has a lot of tattoos. Right. That was on the code. Yeah. Don't go there. What? No, I'm choosing.

We're talking in code. Yeah. So all those porn stars were ones that you really liked. all these i'm showing to Tommy i'm saying which one i'm showing in the list we could talk you don't know which which one were you talking about oh i was talking about the first one the most she's like the most like i know her just from her name because she's you know pretty well known you don't have the list in front of you do you ray no yeah but i know who the first one was and she's amazing she was amazing you know i know that she's always talking about trying to get out of the business and shit but she she she would be one that i would think

would have an assistant and a whole thing set up, right? Because she's been in the business for a long time. Yeah, she's really a smart business woman where she has all these ways to monetize herself as a brand. Uh-huh. And it's doing quite well. And she's cool? Totally cool.

Just such a sweet, nice person. Just, you know, incredible. I mean, really, just like one of those people who you would be friends with. It's a great person. Right. Is she one of them that you became friends with or you still just sleep with her? because I know that once you become friends with someone, you don't sleep with them anymore.

Did you, do you still sleep with her? Yes, I do. And I've really kind of held the friendship back. There's some things that she felt like we could connect on on a business. And I'm really holding some of those things back because I really do like sleeping with her. Right. You don't want to cross that line because you don't want to stop sleeping with her

because she's good in bed. Is she one of the girls that you told us these stories, these hot stories about? Oh, she's the one that you wind up talking and just somehow you wind up in bed. and it's just like the hot as that. Right, correct. Yep.

Yeah. One of those things where we, you know, I know what she likes to drink and sit down and just start having a drink and chatting. And like I said, I don't know, but usually an hour hour and a half into it, suddenly we're fooling around and they're naked. When you're with somebody like her who's recognizable,

to me she's recognizable to a lot, I think to a lot of people because she's gone on other shows besides porn, right? And she's been with famous men and stuff. So will you go out in public with somebody like her or is she somebody because she is pretty well-known and people might know what you're doing with her that you keep it in the bedroom?

Yeah, I would not go out in public with anybody who is well-known like that. Right. I just don't like in Las Vegas when I go to Vegas for work, I don't ever go, not ever, but rarely will I even go get a drink with an escort outside of the room because there's just too many people that know that escorting is kind of like drinking water in Las Vegas.

Right. it's what's going on it yeah but no and that's no disrespect to her i just i wouldn't do it no because and i'm sure she doesn't take it as disrespect it's just because you don't want anyone to know your business and you know and she's well known she's got to know that about herself yeah i mean it's just paramount for them as well as the client and so they're not looking to do anything to call attention to you or them right they're trying to keep it on the down low as much as you how many guys do you think that these do these girls tell you like how many guys like do these girls fuck in a month like do they have like tons and tons of guys

or do they just have a couple yeah well you know it's interesting because um usually as you get to know them to kind of they'll work in kind of what their number is that they're comfortable with and i've noticed that there are women who have scheduled two or three or four appointments a day wow and once i're triple dipping time yeah that's when i'm kind of done not because of judgment because I just think, well, you know, at some point, you're not going to enjoy this. And I don't want to be number four when you're exhausted. It just doesn't seem like it would be fun. But then there's some of those hiring girls who, you know, they limit it to like one a day or one every other day,

whatever their sexual drive is that they're comfortable with. You know, the women who are into quantity over quality, you can tell pretty quick in the emails because they'll schedule you, you know, I'll send that first email, and they'll write back saying, yeah, I'll see you. And the ones who are into quality over quantity, it's going to take two of free emails to find if you click before they schedule time with you. Right. Do you find that the ones that are a little bit more seasoned or more professional have been doing it for longer,

or the hotter ones are more into quality over quantity, or it doesn't really matter? Girls who are in it for a long time who wanted to get out because they were starting to resent men and not enjoying it anymore. And then, you know, I've seen some who have been in it, And it really is a career, and they still love it. So, you know, I think it's probably for the escorts, it's like for all of us who are civilians,

depending on their sex drive and what they like, there's probably a whole different, you know, a whole different season and pattern for each one of them. Right, exactly. And you like the ones that are natural with themselves where they're just doing it by their sex drive. They're not just doing it like a business. Because you want the girl that really wants to fuck you

and is really into the sex. Like you believe that these women, when they're having orgasms with you, right? You could tell? Yeah, I mean, some you can tell because, you know, it's pretty hard to fake some of the way that they react. But then others, I'm sure have faked it. And I just think, well, I appreciate that. I'm going to tell you a tell for a woman. This is a tell.

First of all, you could feel convulsing in the inside, okay, of her pussy. Like, you feel the movements of the inside, like, move in a way that happen when you're, having an orgasms that you could tell. The other telltale sign that you need to know is that her nipples, but you were with a lot of girls that have like fake tits and they have their nipples are always hard. But a woman's nipples will get extra, extra hard right after they come. Like it all construct, the whole body constricts like that. So that's where you go.

You just feel her fucking nips. And if they're not hard, she didn't fucking come. I don't care what she screamed or yelled or did. Like that's the telltale sign. So, you know what? That's your litmus test right. I think fake tits, when girls have fake tits, aren't their nips always hard? Yeah, I've had a couple women who have, and you guys have probably heard this term,

I had before, but they called it squirting when they came. Yes. Of course. I wasn't sure if that was really them having an orgasm or just kind of peeing a little bit. No, that's an orgasm. That's an orgasm. That's, you know for sure is an orgasm. Yeah, that was interesting.

And I was fun with it, and I just wasn't sure. I've been trying to squirt my whole life. It's a mission of mine. I can't figure it out, but I really want to. I'm very jealous that people could squirt. I think it's fascinating. No, it really is. It's not fair.

Why could other people, like, imagine there was something that other guys could do. Like, all you guys come the same way. Imagine if some guy could come out his balls too and, like, it was hotter. Like, wouldn't you want to? Like, it's not fair that some women could squirt and some can't. The first girl who did that was, I'm on a, I do yoga for, exercise and I'm on this yoga website where they have all these workouts and certifications and stuff so I can do it on the road. And one of the girls who's on there, I had met for coaching and turned out she was also an escort.

And she was the first girl who did that and just kind of walked me through like for her what it was. But I didn't know if it was bullshit or if it was real. It has to be real. You can't squirt without it being real. No, it's just, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, there's no way. Well, that's good to know. Yeah, I don't think.

So unless she put, like, water inside her badge first and then just pushed it out. Yeah, that wasn't bad because I explored it pretty fairly. But, yeah, I just wasn't sure. And I'm sure that some of the women have faked it. And I actually had one in Salt Lake City who, she just told me she doesn't have a lot of fun, but I just don't have an orgasm. I just didn't get it. You know, it's like, well, you're not. That's ridiculous.

Yeah. I just didn't get it. There's no point in it, right? Well, I didn't see her again because it just seemed like, I don't know. I just couldn't understand it. I appreciate her honesty, but, you know, I feel like, why tell me? Why tell me?

Well, she was like he said, she was, she was honest, but that, she doesn't understand that that takes the whole thing out of it. Like, like, as a woman, I want to know that I'm getting a guy really turned on for real. And as a man, a man wants to know he's really making a girl really calm. I don't even like to watch porn when the person's faking it. It's a real fucking downer. Don't scream and yell and you're not even wet. Like, it's so irritating.

You know what I mean? Like, you just really want to know that somebody's into sex if you're with them, you know? Yeah, I mean, that's exactly how I feel. It's like, like I said, it's not just about me. It's about them, too, and I want them to have fun as well. Yes. And if, you know, I'm not floating their boat. Like, I always send the girls a picture, and I'm just like, if I don't, you know, you're not attracting me.

I'm okay with it. You know, it's like, you're not going to have my feelings, but you should know what you're walking the door to you as well. Right. Exactly. So, yeah, to me, it's very bizarre. I mean, listen, a lot of women. can't have orgasms and that's like an issue for them and it you know they should be trying to fix that asap because orgasms are great and it's a part of life and everyone should experience

them and it's very natural and it's uh it's a great thing that we could do with our bodies but you know if a woman's having all kinds of sex event and she's not orgasming and she thinks it's just as good she's fucking wrong it's not just as good it's not even it's like it's not even it's like a waste of time you know i think it's crazy um i will never have sex and that orgasm. Like even if the guy has to work harder, if it's taking me a little longer, I don't really care. Like, that's the whole point. You know what I mean? Like, I could think I could count on my one hand how many times I faked it because I'm not going to be with someone unless I'm going to get out. Like, that's the, you know what I mean? That's like the point. It's the same

thing for a man. I mean, what guy doesn't come? I just think it's easier for men to come so you don't really meet a guy that fucks and doesn't come ever. Right. Yeah, I know that that should be. So it's, um, and you know, when you look at that list, there's that on the point, So it's just one that's pretty inexpensive compared to the rest of born stars. She was actually just, she would like come very, very quick. And I didn't just have that knowledge of the nipples yet. So I'll check that next time. But she comes from oral, like probably within two or three minutes.

Right. She can't help herself. Yeah. And she like does this weird thing where like she'll kind of keep scooching back. And it's almost like trying to get away a little bit slowly, you know, not like she's squirming away. And then when she kind of hits the back of the headboard where she can't go anywhere, she just kind of opens up her whole body to me. And I actually, touching myself or rubbing myself in the bed or anything,

just because her orgasm was so sexy and explosive. Right. I did. And I told her she needs to try it more because I think that her rates being low and being in the industry she's in, I think sometimes people think probably it's too good to be true or what's wrong. right here's a here's a Mercedes for $5,000

and you're thinking okay what's wrong with the Mercedes or what I don't know so Yeah on your list you have three girls that are like 500 I mean the porn stars we're not naming any names But they range I would say the top girl is 1900 per hour Right and some of them have a Like they won't do a minimum right

And most of them their minimum is more than an hour right Correct so if the $1,900 girl You're almost paying $4 grand for her each time you're with her But you have a couple. You have three girls, no, four girls, actually, the porn stars that are only 500. So that's the lower end, right? Because most of them are about 1,500 or they're all over 1,000 per hour. Yeah, actually, I never pay for more than an hour.

And I'll negotiate with them and just say, look, I'll do 90 minutes the first time. But other than that, once there's a connection, you know, if they want to stay longer, that's cool. If I don't have something else going on, but I'm not going to pay. for $5,000 for one night because I can get a weekend for that, you know, with some other really nice high-end girls. Right. But if you're paying two, if you're getting these girls for two hours, you book them for two hours, it's about $4,000 for some of them or $3,000, right? Yeah, the highest girl there is like $1,900 for an hour. But like I said, I would do an hour and then, you know, I'd pass the night a little longer, right.

I agree with them, but, yeah. And because you've been screwing them for a while, they give you longer time anyway. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't. Well, after that first meeting, and they get familiar if they want to see you again, then it's never about, you know, we don't even, I don't even say, look, just for an hour on Monday the 5th. I just say, you know, hey, could you see me at 4 o'clock on Monday? And, you know, then that's it.

Yeah, we don't even discuss those things. Right, right. And never, never, of course, in person, you know, we don't ever even discuss the envelope or the card or any of right you just get uh you just you make it like like you said you're into the romance and the seduction and all that stuff you don't want to get you that would ruin all that oh it's okay for me to give a friend a gift of cash but it's not okay for me to pay a woman and expect something right exactly yeah right so you have it all settled so this was another interesting call it's a part two ray k part two yeah ray i can't wait for part three actually what will be part

three. I don't know. A new experience or something. Yeah, something interesting. Yeah, we like to have repeat callers. We have John that calls in all the time. Tuna always wants to call back, the foot fetish guy. Actually, so bad to that kid, like we should get him an escort. Don't you think he had a hooker? I said the same thing. Yeah, he had a hooker. He needs one, right? There's a big difference between, I think, a hucker and an escort. He needs somebody who's going to care for him and teach him how to be with a woman. right right and someone that's not going to care that because he has a he has a lot of like insecurities about like his social skills and stuff so he needs somebody who's really cool and really kind like you said that could come and make him feel comfortable being himself so he could be himself and relax you know because his whole thing is like how to talk to him and stuff you know so yeah he needs a higher end one that's going to be paid some money so maybe we'll do like a drive for tuna a tuna um what are those called a telethon a tuna Yeah, let's get tuna laid

A tuna telethon I will contribute to that Okay All right All right, cool Ray Thanks again So much for your time I appreciate it

Yeah, we'll talk to you again Bye bye Thanks Ray Alright Take care Bye bye Bye So we'll do a tuna telethon

Yeah I think so I like Ray man I really do I think yeah Tommy was Literally I was like all the girls Because we have the name By the way. Okay, so we have the names. Obviously, we're not going to say, but so when I didn't see the list, Kathy had the list, she showed me the list. So of course, what did I do? I googled the highest N1 and the lowest N1. And while we're talking, Tommy's showing me videos of them, sucking people's cock. They're on the real porn stories. They're on X-hamster, porn hub, everything. And it comes right up. And I got to tell you the one super-harmes. And I got to tell you the one super-harmes.

high-end one, the $1,900 an hour. Yeah. Looks like fucking Kim Kardashian, but hotter. Right, right. That was the one with the big, Tommy was showing me this video that was out of control. And I'm trying to concentrate on the call. She was blowing a guy whose dick was probably about 13 inches long. Right.

So all those girls, he sent me a list, you know, and we have to be private, but he sent it to us. All those girls on that list, Tommy, he's fucked and paid for. Like, that's what you get on preferred 4 and 1. Amazing. I mean, but this is, I mean, obviously, it's not the same. site for the average Joe. No, the girls on the bottom are cheaper. Yeah, they're cheaper, but I mean,

they are, what you're called? This is, this is something, this is more of a high-end thing. Yeah, you got to have some cash. You got to have, yeah. $5,000 can't be that much money to you. Yeah. $5,000 needs to be like, you know, $40. That's just for the gal. The gal. Oh, you're talking about our other podcast?

Remember last week, our other podcast, the gal guy. Yeah. That's just for the lady. you also got a figure in the hotel room and all this and on top of it they're tipping i mean this is uh yeah that it can't be like that can't be like your big splurge it has to be not a big deal tuna's not banging these uh no but we're going to do a tuna drive yeah he wants to help tuna yeah we should all help tuna yeah um yeah but like i said before i i like ray you know he's like he's honest and he's and he's not doing it in it i swear to god it's like doing it in a way where he's just

Yeah, he wants to, you know, satisfy that crave of having sex. But he does it in such a dignified way where I don't think it, you know, degrades women. Obviously, you know, there's without getting political where, you know, sensationalizing prostitution. Because there's a dark side to everything. Of course. You know, and we're not promoting it in any way. We're just listening to it or something. I just want to clarify that because there is.

We need, I asked him to get an escort to call and he hasn't gotten one that's been interested yet, but, you know, because we don't know from their end what goes on, you know? Yeah, obviously. And, but he does it in a way he does it. It just, it seems very, uh, vanilla, innocent. Yeah, but it's hot, but he's, but he's, but when you look at the girls, the women that he's really banging and when he tells us specific story. They ain't so innocent. He's not, and he's not having innocent regular sex. He's getting down and dirty.

The girls that are coming in are a lot more, you know, good to go than he is. You know what I mean? Yeah, but he's obviously probably got a lot of experience now after being with all these people. I mean, these are the girls he's wet. Yeah, absolutely. And all that stuff that they do. Oh, I feel, what's he going to do if he goes back with his wife? She's going to have to get a tutorial.

She's going to be like, what the fuck are you been watching? I know. He's like, I've been watching a lot of pornography. He's going to be like the basilies she's ever had. They're like, what the hell did that? Where did that come from? I've been watching a lot of videos. Yeah, exactly.

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