Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 031 - A Drag Queen Named Phil

Episode Date: July 13, 2014

On this call we welcome a drag queen named Chaka Khanvict into the studio and we grill him/her for all kinds of info. We want to know what it's really like to be a drag queen and in the process we find out who Chaka Khanvict really is. It turns out his real name is Phil and though he has a hard time opening up at first, we manage to find out what's really behind his over the top persona.    **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. Craigslist is definitely the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it. The temptation is just too much.

With real problem. Does your friend know that you're banging her? No, he has no idea. And anything goes. Mottow of the show, let your freak flag lie. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to re-hide your whips and check. Here are your hosts, Kathy Kay and Tommy. Hey, welcome to Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy and Tommy.

Hey, how you doing? This is the intro. The intro is, how is everybody doing? We want to hear from you. So we want to get your feedback and your emails and your questions and everything at Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com. Also follow us on Facebook and Twitter at Strict Anonymous and download us. Well, you're obviously downloading. Subscribe to us so you get all the shows on iTunes podcast,

but also do us a solid, right? It's a great review. We got two reviews this week. What did we get? Tommy, you know what? I can't do, like the fact that you don't even check to know, I'm not even going to tell you. What do you mean?

Are they positive reviews from me? Yes, totally. Not for you? For you? No, they're just positive reviews. I seem to get all the positive reviews. Yeah, you do, whatever. I think that's a guy-girl thing.

Yeah. Seriously. I really do, but that's for another podcast. I want to get into what's going on here today because it's a little bit different. Unfortunately, and I've noticed that this is a pattern, any person that's calling into the show that says they're nervous ahead of time. They flake. Yeah, how do you know? You don't even know, but you know. But I know. Yeah, I don't know, but I know.

Yeah, the ones that tell me that they're nervous, every single one of them, I've had three so far. They keep saying, oh, they make a date. They say they're going to call. then they say they're nervous, but they're really excited. And then the day comes and they fucking flake out. What happens. Whatever. I don't know why people are nervous. It's a pre-recorded phone call.

I know, but this is actually cool because we're doing something a little unorthodox for our show today. And by her not calling in, you know, something good happens. We actually have a guest in person in our, what would you say, our Times Square studio? Yeah, if that's what you want to call it. we're like 100 yards from Times Square. Yeah, so we have a drag queen here, and we're going to ask him a ton of questions. I've already been, I mean, I made a list of questions this morning,

and then when I told my cousin on my cab right here that we were interviewing a drag queen, because she's a big fan of the show. She was like, oh, my God, and she started rifling me text messages with questions. I feel like everyone wants to pick a drag queen's brain because we want to know, like, the backstory. I mean, you could watch that.

What's that show, Rupal's Drag Race, whatever, but, like, you don't really know, like, how I want to, I know like a lot of things about a drag queen. What's your name as a drag queen? I forget. Hi, everyone. My name is Shaka Convict. Get it?

And I'm super happy to be here. How did you come up with the name Shaka Convict? It was between Shaka Convict and Aretha Frankfurter. And then I got arrested. As what, Aretha Frankfurter? No. Yeah, but it's funny that you call yourself Shaka Khan because she's black and you're totally white. Did you think of that beforehand?

Is she really black, though? She's totally black. Oh. Have you ever Googled her? No, of course. I love her, but I mean, you know. Yeah. What does that mean exactly?

Why does it matter? I don't know. It doesn't matter. I love people that just do shit that doesn't make sense and they don't give a fuck. Like if you ever watch Louis CK's show Louis, his wife is totally black and his kids are as white as they could be. And I googled it because I'm like, I don't understand it. Am I missing something here? And he said he just doesn't really give a shit.

Like that's what he does. He doesn't care. That doesn't make sense. Do you know he directed Pootie Tang? Yeah, totally. Yeah, he's great. But we're not talking about him, we're talking about you. Because I just Googled you and saw pictures.

And you have a lot of different looks going on. I do. Those wigs, I love them. What wigs? It's all my real hair. Bullshit. Just so you know, callers, I just want to paint the picture. He's sitting here looking like a total normal dude.

That's right. Are you hitting on me? No. That gets me into my first question. She might be getting sweet on you. It's been a while for Kathy. You do have that like dough boy thing that I like. You just call me fat?

No, chubby. I'm a chubby chaser. I like chubby, beefy. Like, you could be in to play football if you were in a drag queen. You know, you got that linebacker body,

which I think is hot. I've always liked it. But are you? So I can only speak in terms for myself. I don't know what other drag queens do. And frankly, I don't really care. I am real gay.

Like, as gay as it comes, like, gay, gay. You totally sound gay. I mean, please. I mean, just your voice. is gay, but you're also gay in real life. Yeah. Even sometimes when I'm not speaking, I'm still gay.

Right, but are all drag queens gay? I mean, I don't know. Anyone can be whatever they want. What do you don't know? Like, you're in that world. Like, you should know that. Do you know every girl that talks on the radio? What do you mean?

Right? I don't know every queen in the world. The queens that I know are all gay. And if they say they're not gay, there's probably a bigger problem. Right, so that's what I'm looking for, like your opinion. Like, most people that you met are gay. I mean, it's very rare. You might find a crazy.

cross-dresser, but that's very different than a drag queen, right? Yeah, well, he's got a wife at home that's probably crying. Right, exactly. But what is the difference between a cross-dresser and a drag queen? A cross-dresser is a man typically lives a straight lifestyle, a heterosexual lifestyle, that happens to wear women's clothing, typically crappy women's clothing, I'd like to add. And they go out to bars, and, you know, they just look like, you know, that homeless bag lady. But that's their fantasy, so, you know, let them have it.

You sound a little pissed off. Like do you, do tranny? I mean, tranny, I'm sorry. Do cross dressers and like, like, as a drag queen, do you hate cross dressers? I don't hate anybody. But, you know, if you're going to do it, do it right. I can't stand some guy that goes to H&M, picks up a dress, and all of a sudden they think their share. You know what I mean?

It takes work. Like you've been devoting your whole life to this. This isn't just like. My whole life. Yeah. I mean, how long you've been a drag queen? I mean, this is your career, right? Well, no.

Wait, what did you start? We were talking before. You did makeup, though, right? Well, I actually have a degree in advertising. I sold advertising space for the Baltimore Sun for a couple of years. And while I was doing that, I was also at Mac Cosmetics. But before that, when I was in college, I was the president of our gay group on our college campus. And we had a charity drag event.

I hosted it. And I'm like super, super funny. So then I got hired to work downtown in Baltimore. But were you doing all this in drag? You mean like going to class? No. No, not class. Like when you, like, when did you start doing shit in drag?

The first time was a charity drag event. Someone lent me an outfit. You know, I was friends with some drag queen downtown. Someone else did my makeup. And then I, it just clicked. I was just good at it. You know what I mean? Oh, interesting.

So it's not like something like you were little and you were like rifling through your mom's shit and trying it on and putting makeup on and like you were like knew you were a drag queen. It came out way later. I was familiar with concealer. But for the most part, no. never had that fascination to dress like a woman or, you know, do anything like that.

I mean, I'm sure in high school, you know, I probably got drunk and put a brawl on or something. Right, but it was not like that was like, oh, because I would think like drag queens would know that that's what they want to be when they're little. I always had an appreciation for very beautiful women. You know, I'm the total queer when it comes to Cher or Madonna or, you know, any of these diva performers. Right. And now you're a diva. Aren't I? Yeah, totally.

especially in those pictures. I mean, you have to go to his Facebook. What's your Facebook? Shaka Convict. It's spelled just like the very black singer, Shaka Khan, and then V-I-C-T. So Shaka-Convict. Yeah, and you have a lot of different personas. I'm pretty consistent, but do you mean in terms of my looks?

Yes. Yes, I have very different looks. I've been doing it since I was 19 years old. I cannot stand when a queen has one wig. The whole point of this is to give a show. Every single week, I'm rocking at least five different looks. So you're an entertainer? I think so.

But let me ask you this. When you like screw other guys... You know, I may have been drunk in a cab before I never had to pay for the ride. Something could have happened. What you're saying is... No, just answer the question. Like, yes, I'm sure you've done both, right? Listen, the only time I ever truly had sex and drag was with a guy that was just imagine like an Adonis coming from the sky.

And he came into the bar that I work at. And it was on like Donkey Kong. Was he straight? I don't really care. But was he? No, I mean, because that's going to lead into my other question, which is like how many straight guys have you fucked as a gay man or a drag queen? Because we all know.

I'm not into the straight thing. You're not? You're not into the converting? No, I can care less. I like a big lady boy. So this Adonis was like a woman man. Like a venom. Like very.

No, he was masculine. I mean, it blew my mind that he was hitting on me. I think I like lady boys because that's what hits on me. But this guy looked like a beautiful, like fitness model. And he wanted it. And I took him to Poundown. In the cab? Well, a little bit in the cab and then back at my place.

Right. And you stayed in drag. I did, yes. But most of the time, you don't stay in drag. Oh, absolutely not. I mean, I'm very much having sex as Philip. And you're meeting dudes as Philip. That's your real name.

Yes. Okay. It doesn't have to be your real name, but it is your real name because we're strictly anonymous. We don't really get. people's real name, but is that your real name? Just in case you're looking to hook up through our show and somebody sees you and they want to send you a message. You hook up with guys, like, so you dress and drag once a week or whenever you're working

and then you go out as fill up. So you have like two personalities. Yeah. Doesn't everyone have a, like a, you know, a little bit of a different personality? I have like 18. Everybody. I think if you're a real person, no, I think if you're a real person, you have lots of different parts of yourself that doesn't, that doesn't make sense, right?

I just happen to have two closets. Right. With two different, right. So you have guy clothes and girl clothes. I don't really think of my drag even as girl clothes. I mean, my clothing is so over the top, usually, that there is no real woman that dresses like this. Maybe a few girls up in like Harlem.

Right. But as a man, do you feel for women with makeup and all that shit, considering you have to put it on? Like, do you enjoy your days better that you don't have to put all that shit on your face and get all decked out? Or do you enjoy that process? I'll tell you what I enjoy, the attention. It's so worth it to throw the heels on, to throw the wig on, to be two hours in makeup. Because I love the attention.

I was an only child, so I guess it's playing itself out. What are you about your parents? Do they know that you're a drag queen? Absolutely. My mom is a huge supporter. You know, my dad's okay. He's as good as he can be. I grew up like in a trailer park.

So for a guy from a trailer park, he's great. Right. You've done great. Or it's great that he actually is supportive because he's from a trailer park. Oh, I get it. But your mom is cool with it. She loves drag. She's probably the reason why I kind of was so comfortable getting into drag.

I mean, she's kind of a drag queen. Your mom? She wears a lot of makeup. Right. Well, most women do, no? She, like, wears Kardashian makeup. Oh. Tommy told me something about your mother, and I want to know if it's true.

He started to talk about your ship before we got in the air, and I'm like, please don't tell me because I want this to come out on the air. But it's so fascinating. I'm going to bring it up if you're not going to go there. He told me that your mom's a nudist. I didn't grow up with her being a nudist She met a guy recently Probably five years ago And he took her to a nudist colony

And she literally Flipped her shit Since sold the house I grew up in the house The trailer The truck This is the funniest part though Is they bought a triple wide

Which I didn't even know they make At the nudist resort So she's just Just free balling it now And how old's your mom Like she just loves to be naked My mom is 62. God bless her.

Wow. And how old was the guy that took her to the nudist colony? This is funny. It's actually a nudist retirement community. That's awesome. My mom is kind of like... I think I want to be like that when I get old. My mom is kind of the young hot piece.

Right. So he's like in a 70s. Right. So she's like, oh yeah. I don't want to be a swinger. I want to be a nudist. I just want to be something weird. But you have to understand that what I heard with all old people,

they're all getting it on like hard. really fucking hardcore. Like seriously, they say that the biggest amount of STDs are in old age homes because they're all fucking each other. And what do they care?

Exactly. Why did you go to that line of questioning from my mom to STDs? I don't like that. Exactly. So your parents are obviously divorced. They were never married. They were never married.

Oh, they were never married. Hence the trailer park. Oh, so you just live with you grew up with just your mom. I grew up with both of them, you know, separate housing. Right. And where did you learn how to do your makeup?

and everything. Like where do you, I mean, that day that you changed into those clothes and shit, did somebody turn you on to that? I'm a pretty quick learn. And the person that did my makeup was, you know, I just watched them. And after I got, you know, the first time I did drag, I never thought I would actually be doing drag as certainly not a career. I was in college. There's no clown college. Right. For drag. Right. But, you know, I just picked it up and I realized that if I'm really going to do this,

then it's something you've got to learn. But do you date, do you date other drag queens? Have you date other drag queens? Or is it like a competitive thing? You seem like it would maybe be like a competitive thing. Well, it's called a Kai Kai Kai, just so you know. Oh, what's a Kai Kai Kai? I've never heard that.

A Kai Kai Kai Kai Kai. I never heard that. Is when two drag queens get together. Right. And it's that's what they're, the act of having sex in drag with another dragon is called Kai Kai Kai Kai Kai. Have you ever kikide? Hell no.

That's disgusting. Oh, right. You think that's disgusting? I bet you other drag queens don't that. I wish we had another drag queen here. Because I feel like I wonder if other drag, do most drag queens think kai-kying is disgusting? I think you really hit the nail on the head with the idea of the competitiveness. Yeah.

So I just don't think it would work. But I know a few drag relationships that, you know, work out enough. Right. I feel like a kai-kai is like incest. Well, no, it's also because if you're... It is, yeah. I think it is like incest. The drag community, you know.

But it's also like goes against their desire because if they're mostly gay, they don't want to fuck someone that looks like a woman, right? You want to fuck a guy. You want someone to look like a guy, right? So that would take away from the gay thing. So you'd have to be like a cross-dresser that's straight, right? To want to fuck someone in drag. Because they look like a girl. And where do you get your tits from?

Like you don't have tits right now, but you have tits in all your pictures. Well, that's- Could you teach me how to do that? You actually have a nice rack. I was admiring your rat. I do, but how do you make your boobs look so big? The same way you contour a cheek, you contour the tit. And also, I have a pretty high-calibing.

diet. So you have like, you have be cups and you just push them up and you wear like a be cups as a boy. Right. And then you push them up with like, because your tits look huge in all the pictures. Yeah, you know,

I have a dope under garment that kind of smushes them together. And then also I wear a ton of makeup. Right. Over here to make it. All over my chest. Yeah. Some queens don't do it, but I think that it adds to the illusion.

Yeah. I saw, you know, I see Shaka and drag. And I think the way you do, the air brushing, as opposed to some of the other drag queens. means it definitely

from afar makes it look like you got huge tits on. Totally. I mean, they look like double D's. You walk in and you're like and then you get up so, oh, I see what you're doing. Oh, and then you can see that. But you've got to be like right there

and you're like, okay, I can see what's going on. Like most people are in the bar, they don't fucking know, right? Yeah. I can't stand when people grab them though because they don't realize it's makeup. And then when they get touched too much by the end of the night, they're kind of like

they disappeared. Yeah. They disappear. Do you, this is a question for my cousin. She wants to know if you get hit on by a lot of straight guys when you're in, not as a gay man because that's a whole other show, but as a drag queen. We, I work with a lot.

I work with a lot of girls that are a lot, the term is fishy, meaning more feminine. I definitely try to go more of the persona. I think of myself as a drag comedian. And, you know, what I do in nightclubs, Wednesday nights, I host a show at the Ritz called The Real Deal. And then I'm a host.

but I also sell jealous shots. Whatever it takes. Whatever it takes. Totally. Okay, go on. So I have this comedic persona, and I'm telling jokes, and I'm busting balls, and I'm taking names, you know, and I'm doing this whole thing. So I don't feel like that is frightening for straight guys to, you know, come in contact with, period. But, you know, there are some other girls that love that attention.

And, you know, they're called working girls. Right. And by girls, you mean other drag queens. Drag queens, yes. Right, right. You're not one of them. I mean, you know, I would turn a trick. It depends on how much money do you have.

All right, then I'm going to ask as a straight guy, because I know I've been to Tommy's bar years ago and he would like point out to me all the guys sitting at the bar like at 6 o'clock or 7 o'clock after work that are guys that, you know, are making their way home to their wife and their kids and they stop by and they live like these double lives. As a gay man, do you, because we haven't had a gay man on here yet. As a gay man, do you get hit on by a lot of those kind of straight guys that are living that double life? I think I just put it out there that I don't want to be a part of that. It creeps me out. Like, be who you are. Right. If you're a fag, you're a fag. If you're straight, you're straight.

Someone's going to love you. You know what I mean? So I guess I come from the place of no when it comes to those men. So you don't get a lot of that. I think I put it out there. No, I don't want that. I'm not trying to convert anybody. I'm not knocking on anyone's doors. If you want to come to my party, you know, boom. So what, you know, I obviously, you know, being an owner of a gay club, I know a lot of the answers to this is. questions but I'm gonna ask him because our listeners obviously don't know them but where would you say besides just going out to the bar where would most of the hookups come from this day and age the forget the gay hookups yeah this iPhone right here is I think the number grind her hookup grind it's grinder it's scruff it's hornet it's Tinder has is gay now I mean it's like it's so easy it's dial a dick

Right. I think, yeah, I think most, I have a feel, like, I always tell a lot of my, like, real player, straight guy friends, that they'd be much better off and I'm more happier if they were gay, because, like, women are not going to engage, like, sexually with a man the way that gay men engage with each other. You're lucky to be gay because your desires are equally matched to the person that you're meeting. You know what I mean? Like, the shit that happens in the gay world would be considered rape in the straight world. No, I'm going to tell you a story. This is a fucking gay story, okay? My gay friend's on a bus, okay? Imagine this is having a street girl. My gay friend's on a bus going someplace, and he sees this guy, and he's gay, and they start looking at each other, and they're winking at each other. Then the guy takes his cock out, and then the guy, and my friend looks, and then he starts

rubbing it, and then, like, they do this thing back and forth, then he takes his cock out, and he shows, and then that guy gets off the bus, and then he follows him, and then he fucks him. Now, I'm sorry, if I'm on a bus, and some guys, like winking at me and then takes his dick out and starts drinking him, I'm gonna call the police. Yeah, but my friend followed him off the bus and went to his house and fucked him. And that's how

like it works in the gay community. How come your friend never called me back? He hangs around this out. Sorry. No, but I mean, I see them in the clubs on Grindr. And I mean, it has like a GPS locator. It tells you these people are

like a foot away from you, 10 feet away from you. But you guys have called up. Tinder, I know girls who I'm pretty sure you know, you might call them whores or whatever, but... No, we don't call anyone whores on the show. These anonymous whores. Right. But I'm telling you, Tinder is...

People are on there straight up having sex, and it's scary because could you imagine being a woman in New York City inviting a guy? I mean, at least I'm another man, so I can sort of defend myself or hit him with a wig or something. That all happens when you're drunk and you're not even really thinking that. Because I used to be

promiscuous, I don't drink for the past 10 years, but I fucked a lot of guys when I did. And it's just like that shit kind of just happens when you're drinking. It just does. Amen. You gave me a face for. You gave me a face like, ill. I have no STDs.

Yeah, no, but I mean, so I think most of those girls are doing it when they're wasted. You know what I'm thinking. That's still scary. I know, but you're not. But you know what? Most girls don't wind up getting, I never got robbed. I never got raped.

I never. I mean, maybe some things I would consider rape, but I don't because, you know, you're fucking drunk. Now, let's, Let's get to the meat and potatoes here because you know. What do you think is the meat and potatoes of a dry? I bet you, no, I bet you some of the listeners want to know, like, what was like some risque stories? Like, you know, working at the bar and then met someone that night and walked into something or, you know, some story that kind of sticks out in your mind that even would make you sit back and say, wow, that was pretty fucked up.

Tommy, Tommy, Tommy. Well, I told you about the Adonis. I mean, that was pretty hardcore. I mean, it started in the bathroom of a bar and then boom. You know, I'm bringing some crazy guy home that wants to have sex with me while I have a wig on. Yeah, but girls do that all the time, too, though. I'm just telling you. Well, I top.

Do girls do that? Some girls, actually. I was never into that, but, yeah. I worked at a bar that's since been closed. It's called Splash. And it was in Chelsea. And the thing about it was the cab drivers that came there to pick up anyone, kind of knew the deal. and there were numerous times

when the cab driver would just beg me to sit in the front seat and just like you were talking about you know I was the drunk sorority chick all right so this one time I actually even knew his name he um he picks me up from the bar and he's just like you're gorgeous

you're beautiful and I'm like thanks is that front seat available like I was the aggressor we're driving in the car and I just I just go down let's be honest so like my wig is bobbyes Oh, you're talking about the cab drivers are hitting on you. Yeah, yeah.

Oh. They would deliberately go and sit out in front of the gay club to take a drag queen home. So I don't know. This is confusing to me, but we want to continue with that question because you say you don't like straight guys. But are these cab drivers like flaming gay guys? No. Who knows what they are? They're like a badge.

Are you fuck straight guys? Yeah, these are straight guy stories, by the way. Remember I asked you before for some, do straight guys hit on you? Yes, Kathy. cab drivers hit on me all the time when I worked at Splash. Okay, but anyway, come up. They're fucking straight, by the way.

Oh, really? If you're banging cab drivers, you don't like cissy cab driver. I haven't rarely met a sissy cab driver. Well, I guess I think of it in terms of differently. And also, I haven't really, this was when I was younger, I had first moved to the city. The reality is, is that I didn't care if he was

gay or straight or whatever. I was drunk and ready to go. Totally. That's a lot of people drunk people. Okay, so you would get hit on my cab drivers, and you just go in the front and you just blow them while they're driving? Usually I'd wait for a stoplight. Okay, but please tell me that they didn't

make you pay for that fucking cab. No. You're a loser. Really? You blew them and bait them? Would you tip them too? Oh, my God. No, but this is not going well for me. I have had one ask one time about the fair and then he said

well, how about just half? Oh my God. So that was your big break. Oh my God. Imagine the story the cab driver was like, this is great. I took someone home. They sucked my cock the whole way. And they paid me.

And it was a dude. I'm sure he leaves that out of the... Of course he leaves the dude part out. This is why I don't do that. This is why I don't do that. No, see, these are the kind of stories I find fascinating. Not when you're fucking real gay guys, but when you're fucking cab drivers.

I'm wondering how many cab drivers I've been in the cab with that like picked up a gay guy at a place and let him blow when he was driving. How about this? many times you as a woman, you know, an attractive lady, been propositioned by a cab driver on the way home? Never. Never, ever, ever.

No. That's the vibe you put out, though. Just like I'm not really into the straight guy thing, but it happens, you know. How many cab drivers did you fool around one? Well, when they started charging me, then I got deterred. No, seriously, how many cab drivers? I would say probably. I've had that experience, I guess, which you're really interested in that.

drag queen, bucking a straight guy, maybe five to, you know, 35 times. No, probably about five times. Five times for real. Oh, so including the Adonis. And you're in drag? At the time. Oh, okay. So those guys are pretending it's a chick.

It's kind of like Tommy got blown by a tranny once. So it's kind of like maybe the same thing. Did my love to say that? Yeah, absolutely. Did you know? What? Yeah, he knew. And just so you know, we have a lot of guys on the call.

that call in that have done that. And I have a lot of guy friends. Like once I found out this is something that guys do, I found out a lot of guys have gotten, straight guys have gotten blown by trannies. So maybe the cab drivers is the same thing, Tommy. Like they see your fake tits. They don't know that it's spray paint.

Well, and they're like, blow me. And they're looking at the back of your wig and that's like enough for them. Yeah. I think we're focusing too much on a, on, on, we're pretending like, it's like this whole psychology.

The straight guy is about, dude, by the way. And he just wants to throw it in a warm hole. Let's be honest. Right? I mean, I think you're giving men way too much credit. Yeah, maybe I am. I don't know.

That's why I'm asking you these questions. I like to ask those questions because, like, everybody thinks differently and some people don't tell the truth. Maybe you're just being honest. But I think maybe it's that you look like a chick and, you know, they need maybe that. I mean, as a straight guy, as Phil, like what I see right now, how many times have you gotten a cat? I'm not a straight guy.

Okay. I mean, as a straight guy, meaning straight, like not in drag. How many times have you been in a kid? and they pulled you in the front seat and you blew them like this, looking like this. Never. Zero, right. So I have a feeling that it does have to do with the drag.

No offense. I think you're absolutely right. A female impersonator. Right. I think it's more than a female impersonator, though. I think it's like the epitome of femininity. That's what drag is. Yeah, that's what I mean.

It's the exaggerated. Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah. So it's no different than the guy getting blown by a trainee. He might not get blown by Phil, but he might want to be blown by Shaka Khan. Vict. Yeah.

I don't want to get sued. Yeah. Trademark infringement there. Yeah, Shaka Khan probably needs the money. She might just fucking sue you right now. I got to say, though, and I don't know, you can agree or disagree, but I think the whole drag profession has gotten a hell of a lot more popular now that it's like on mainstream TV, not just Rupol's drag race, but it's just becoming more and more popular.

Because I couldn't remember, I mean, would you remember in the 80s or 90s, like, drag queens? There was Dame Edna being as popular as they are now? No, anytime anything gets into the mainstream, it's great for people because it makes, like, your community well-known and a little bit more accepted, right? Like, I mean, how has it changed your life as a drag queen with, like, the whole thing with it being on TV? If one more bitch asks me make-up tips or she's a young drag queen that wants to start off, I don't care. I'm not running a charm school. No, what I'm saying is that so many more little gay boys now want to be a drag queen.

Right. Taking my damn jobs. Right. So you are competitive. You guys are competitive with each other. You're definitely seeing like an influx of drag queens. You can look. I remember going to a gay bar and being like, oh my gosh, that's a drag queen.

And now you walk into any gay bar in Hell's Kitchen or New York City for that matter. And there is at least three queens. Unless it's a bar that doesn't. doesn't really support the drag queen thing, in which case, like, I'm not down with. It's very odd to me, that whole, you know, that subculture of the gay world where they're like, no drag here, you know, no feminine guys.

I think that's really odd. That exists? Absolutely, yeah. Do you wear high heels? I'm just looking at your weird shoes. You have these, I've never seen those in it. Did you? Jeremy Scott, limited edition, Adidas?

Yeah, they're Adidas, but they have wings on them, like yellow wings. That's pretty cool, so they can fly away. Yeah. In case it gets too real, I can run away. That's so interesting. But do you wear high heels? Yes.

But I also, my persona is really loud. And sometimes I will wear my sneakers, but I think it's funnier. Well, no, I actually have crazier sneakers than this. Right. But, I mean, this is a little bit of drag. I mean, aren't we always in drag the second we leave the house, really? No. Anyone?

No, I'm in no way am I in. But isn't that your drag? I mean, you know, a little bit. No, I think my personality is so. You have a great. Is a drag? Well, I'm at the gym. My personality is a drag.

Drag, fuck you. I'm like, I kind of drag draggy, like personality. Like, over the top, like loud. That's what I mean. But so I actually try to, to avoid people sort of knowing kind of how weird I am. I try to dress very plain. I'm like one of those. I can see your boobies right now.

You're in pigtails. Giving a little flirty smile. Come on. The pink tails are because I just came from the gym. I only wear pink tails to the gym. Oh, so you're in pig tails and you're bouncing up and down on an elliptical. No, the gym is like my bar. Like I used to pick up dudes at the gym.

That's weird. I mean at the bar, now I pick them up at the gym. That's where Kathy trolls for asses at the gym. Yeah, because I don't drink anymore and I don't go out of my. Yeah, she doesn't go out of you. And so she's like, I've never heard of someone so insistent about going the gym. And I was like, what the fuck? Oh, shit.

That's not the reason. And come on. No, it really isn't. So that's your drag. That's your truth then, you know, because you put your hair and your pig tails. I have a sexy tan. I will tell you, like, when I used to drink and go to bars, like, that was where my ego got fed. That's where I picked up all my dudes.

Like that's, I love that. Now, since I don't have that, where do you go to be hot? I feel the hottest at the gym because I work out like a guy. I'm really in shape and there's no other girl in my area and all the guys talk to me. And like that's just where I feel like I get a lot of attention. So that is my place to go. All right. Yeah, why not?

You know, we all need that. Do you want to announce what gym you're at so they can see this a box of blonde bouncing up and down? No, no, definitely not. And I've only had two guys at the gym. But I like people, you know, you want it. I like people, guys that are into physical fitness. Like, I like working out with people and stuff. So I would like to.

Me too. You do too? No, I was talking about sex. Oh. Have you ever had a boyfriend? Oh, yeah, definitely. What's your longest relationship? Oh, it's super long.

It was at three months. Really? I knew. I would have bet you a million dollars that he's not going to, he didn't have like a long-term relationship. I don't. That's okay. I haven't really either.

So I'm not dissing you. I'm just saying I get that vibe. Here's the thing is that I always know who I am. I know what I want. And I'm not, I don't want to waste anyone's time. So if there's one thing that I know for a fact is a deal breaker, why would I waste his time? And I think that goes back a little bit to why I'm not really into like pursuing a straight guy or anything like that because what's going to happen with that? When you say deal breaker, you mean you have too many deal breakers for the guy or everybody you meet has a deal breaker for you.

It's definitely tough to go out with me. I was on a date one time and we were walking around Hell's Kitchen and the guy just looked at me and he goes, what are you? the fucking mayor of hell's kitchen because when I walk in the street you know I've been doing drag here for eight years when I walk down the street inevitably I'm like hey girl hey girl hey girl you know oh see at the bar tonight oh you know two dollar jello shot that's right and it's a lot for a guy I feel like to handle yeah but probably some guy listen I probably some guys would actually be into it because there's some sort of power in that don't you think if you're listening that guy out there you can find me at shaka connics on Facebook and Twitter yeah but I'm

sorry to analyze you though I mean you could just be I mean because I know I have this issue too. You might just be a little commitment phobic so you keep those people away and you only attract the one. You know, maybe you just don't like relationships. Like, how do you feel about relationship? I'm completely supportive. I mean, I didn't have a very good like, like, like the only time I saw a positive relationship was when it was on like ABC or NBC. Right, me too. That's the problem. That's what I'm trying to say. So there's probably a lot of guys out there that would love all that stuff and everything, but you just don't attract them so you don't know that. That's not, it's like you're playing a story out. It's because it's what you think, so it's what you see. But there

could be a different story. And I think the other story could be that a lot of dudes or somebody that would actually like that because there is power in that. You're kind of like famous in Hell's Kitchen. Do you know what I'm saying? I have a girlfriend like that and she gets a lot of people like loving her because she's like the mayor of like downtown. It's just the way that it goes. But that's probably because you had a single mom, right? You didn't see them together. Not often. No. Did she have any long, like did you get a stepdad or anything like that? She did have long-term relationships, but I don't think that they were extremely positive. I mean, we're not talking an Ike and Tina situation at all.

But I'm saying like, you know, truly a mature, emotional and, you know, I know it was physical, though, because our walls in the trailer were thin. Oh, my God. My mom is down. Oh, my God. So you would hear your mom having sex. This is interesting. While I'm trying on her makeup and practicing my drag routines. Yeah.

What's weird about that? So you were doing, how long did you live with your mom for? How old are you? I moved down when I was 17. Okay, so I do math, okay? And so you can never get something past me. You say you're not like doing drag until you're 19, but now you're saying you're like in the other room listening to your mom have sex and trying on makeup. I was joking about that.

I wasn't, I wasn't really doing makeup. Oh, okay, sorry. I'll cut that out. So I won't ruin your joke. I'll delete that. Tommy's like, shut the fuck up. So you, so you heard your mom having sex a little like a lot of different guys or she would have, like, was she promiscuous? No.

No, she had, um, when we moved out. of my dad's space we I think she was with that guy for like 13 years but it was on and off just because she was with somebody doesn't mean it like just because you're with somebody for a long period of time doesn't mean that it's a wonderful relationship it just means that you guys are like yeah bullshit terrible thing that you can't get out of a lot of why I've had very short relationships because you know I don't want to waste anyone's time but specifically mine right right you have a fear of commitment so do you that's that's That's why I'm saying.

I admitted that before. That's why I know. I'm not putting it down. No, you just said so to you as if like I'm pretending that I don't. Tommy's the only one here that could fake his way into a relationship. Me and you are a little bit more honest. Tommy's just as dysfunctional as we are, okay? But he's like read the book on how to be a normal person and he's subscribing to it.

Okay. So nice. Well, if you're going to try to rip me like that. I'm not trying to rip anything. So are you. What was that about? I know. I said that before.

Or I have issues, that's why I could see it in you. You have a fear of commitment. That's just the deal. I don't think I do. I think that I just haven't found the right person yet. I'll tell you why. How old are you? How old are you?

I'm 28. Okay. My career is, it's really tough for a gay guy to date a guy that dresses up like a woman five nights a week. Okay. He wants to be with a man. Okay. But Phil, I had a relationship when I was 15 for two years with a 21-year-old guy. Okay, you didn't start doing drag until you were 19.

What happened? And when did you lose your gay virginity? And have you ever fucked a girl? Two. You fucked two girls. Shout out to Mary Lou Bailey. Okay. When did you?

Any relation? How old were you when you fucked Mary Lou? I was, I actually didn't fuck her. Okay. I was 15. Okay. And so was that your first girl? It was literally everything but actual like sex, sex.

And then I did have a girl that I actually went all the way with, you know. So that was you lost your virginity with women at 15. When did you lose your virginity with men? Maybe my, uh, probably my first. semester in college? Because where I grew up, there just wasn't any other gay guys. You have to remember that. That must be, come on, that first time must be memorable in your head.

Not really. I actually, I do remember. I know it's anonymous, so I'm not going to say his name. But it was all, all of 37 seconds at most. I was so excited. It was like my first week in college. I do actually remember it now. And I went off.

I went off. For 37 seconds. It was the best 37 seconds of his life. You were at the top. Yes. Right, right. So that was, because I would assume if you're, you always knew you were gay, right? I think so.

Since you were really little. And since you're 28, like when you were little, did they have like, was porn on, on like online? Were you able to, like, how did you start fantasizing? Well, didn't online porn really didn't start to like 90. We're so much older than you. So I would have to find videotapes to see porn. Like how did you get your gay rocks off? When I started coming out, it was around 15, 16.

Yeah. And it was actually to Mary Lou. And she was like, I don't think so. Oh, because this is after you fooled around there, you told her you're gay? I think she viewed it as a challenge. Oh, my God. Poor Mary Lou, if she was here, she's probably has so fucked up from that. She says, we trace it back.

She has so many issues with guys because the first guy she fucked turned gay. I don't think it's her. Oh, she was a horse. She was around the way, girl. So go on. I, somehow she had like an older cousin or something somehow I got a hold of a porn videotape

Right and that's like the first time I ever saw anything gay And I was like holy shit Right That looks amazing Right and that's when you knew that that's what you wanted I mean were you confused before that? Yeah totally I mean do you ever know what you want at you know 15 to I think most I think well Tommy you're a straight guy

Yeah Did you know that you were totally straight? Yes Right so I think that you do know So I think the fact that you were confused was a sign. Yeah, probably. But, I mean, just like what Tommy, did you know that you only wanted to be with blondes or redheads

or brunettes? No, I knew that I just always wanted variety because, you know, I grew up in, you know, what would you say, the VHS days? I mean, yeah, that's what I grew up. I mean, the generation before me was magazines. So I grew up in the VHS days. I mean, I remember when we first got our VCR and then, you know, I grew up in the suburbs. So everybody's parents worked

And we would hit someone's Dad's collection You know And they'd be like 20 kids jammed into somebody's room With a VCR and we'd watch a porn And I remember everybody's like All right I gotta go home

And like bikes went in every direction You know Right but you saw what you were looking for Because there was tits and ass on it When you saw like sex between a man and a woman Like you knew that that's not what you were interested in I don't think it's that clear cut. I mean, do you think it's, do you think it's that black and white?

It didn't turn you on as much. I think for bisexual people, it's not. For straight heterosexual, yes, I do think it's like one. I think, I mean, you know, we're talking in general terms. Straight guys are straight. Like, guys are just, they just want to be with girls. But like, I think girls and gay guys, I think there's a little bit of a gray, you know. Oh, but there's also a gray area with guys, too.

Come on. I don't think that there's two. Yeah, you know, what about all the cab drivers that you blew? Well, how do you know they're not? not gay though you know I think they're straight or oh yeah they're straight with a convincing woman they're like big girls they're picking you they're picking you up at a gay bar so they know you have a cock under there so on some level they know but we don't we already went through this because Tommy blew a tranny like you're not you don't consider whoa whoa whoa I mean I'm sorry yeah

I know I won't delete it but we that was not the truth that was not the truth you got blown by a trans yes and you don't consider yourself gay no I definitely But she has, she probably had, well, first of all, she could very well have had a vagina. Yeah. I mean, it's not like I didn't see anything, so. Right. It's not like you're thinking. It's not like I was, I had my hand on the cock.

What do you think about when tranny's, you know, they have a full functioning vagina? I mean, at that point, they're a woman, right? Well, it's funny that you brought that up because I was just watching a TV show yesterday called botched. Uh-huh. And it's like people who have these horrible plastic surgeries. And then they go and this, you know, the celebrity of the show or there. this panel of three plastic surgeons that basically try to fix what was quote unquote botched. Right.

So they had this famous tranny porn star on there called Kimber. And her, you know, she wanted to get her nose fixed. Her tits were too big. And she had her penis cut off. And she wanted to get her vagina fixed to look more like a better looking vagina. and it was weird because... It's like a Mr. Potato Head. Yeah, it was...

Yeah, but first of all, the girl was... Well, the tranny, but she's now a girl, was a complete knockout. I mean, if you were into California Porn Star look, she did not look like the Tranny, especially after they did everything. But then the guy who was a, like, Labia specialist, whatever, he gave her like this pitcher,

perfect vagina. So how would somebody know you're with this blonde chick with huge fucking tits, the body, she had a rib taken out and everything. You know what I mean? And she's got a vagina. Well, we've had guys on that have been into transgender people. What I'm saying is you would never know that that was a transgender person. Right.

So that's different. That guy's straight. Yeah. But I'm just saying that, you know, I think that there's people that are bisexual. men and women. I think the only reason why you don't get more bisexual men, you know, copping to it and putting pictures of himself making out with his guy friends when he's drunk is because it's less acceptable. Before it became acceptable for women to have girl crushes, no girl would admit it. And then when it became acceptable and Tila Tequila was on TV, like every girl is fucking

by. And I think that that, I think you have a lot of bisexual guys out there that just aren't admitting it because it's still a little taboo. Yeah, well, the only reason why I personally feel that the girl crush thing, two girls, is more accepted than the two-guy thing. Because they're prettier. Straight white, you know, men fantasize about two women. So then, you know what I mean? That's why it gets, you know.

Right, but I don't think that you, that means that that means that there's less taboo. Yeah, but I don't think that that means that there's less by guys out there. No, no, not at all. She's not promoted as much. I think mathematically speaking, you, I think most people fall in the middle of the gray area. It's just statistically speaking, it's very rare to find someone. totally hetero or totally homo. You're totally hetero.

You're totally homo. I am. And there is still that experience I had with, you know, little Mary Lou. Yeah, but that was when you were young and confused. I love the fact that you were young and me too. Bailey. You were young and confused. Uh, yeah.

I mean, also, you know, I'm still a guy. And I was 15 and horny. Right. So you would just like take it from whoever. Well, give it to whoever. So when you're, so you didn't fuck a guy until you were how old, 19? Uh, no. I was in, it was my first semester in college, so probably 17, 18.

Oh, okay. So from 15 to 18 were you sleeping with a lot of women? No. You only two. You only flew around the place. I was chubby and I grew up in a really weird conservative town. So like. So you just jerked off a lot.

Yeah. And you thought about guys when you're jerking off? I can't remember what I thought. I'm sure I did. Of course I did. Yes, you can remember. Come on. Yes, you can remember what I jerked off about this morning.

I'm not asking you. Normally, I'm talking about your formative years. What got you off in your mind? It had to been dudes. That's how you had to know your life. What do you mean? Yeah, I'm sure. You're you. You're allowed to know.

You know yourself. Yes. Yes. Okay. So you jerked off to fantasies about dudes. That's how you knew, right? Yeah. Right.

Were you jerking up to girls' tits in your head? No. Okay. So there you go. Yeah. I don't know why you. Yeah. No, I don't know why you won't, like you say you don't remember.

It's interesting to me. I try to like analyze people. Do you see the boredom and look on Tommy's face? That's because I'm doing my girl thing. because I like to find, you know, your psychological issues. Well, I don't have any. Yes, you do. I'm a complete sane person.

As any man is. Just because people have issues, everyone has issues doesn't mean you're sane. I think everyone has, how can we not have issues when we're raised by other human beings, like, that are fucked up themselves? I mean, come on. So how do you think the drag thing comes into play? Because I look at drag as, like, theater. Totally. But how do you think that, like, my formative years and how does it all intertwine?

I don't think that that there necessarily has to be a correlation between any. That's just probably your calling. Like you wanted to be, you're very flamboyant, you're creative. I think it's a creative thing. It's like, I think you like attention. You're an attention-seeking person. As much as you think that puts other people off, it's what turns you on about yourself. Like, I think you like being the mayor of Hell's Kitchen, right?

And you found a way to make that shit happen. You know what I mean? So many people are actors that are dying for that fame thing. You probably have that in you too. but this was a quick or sure way to get, you know, that part of your ego fed. So I don't think it necessarily has to be any kind of cycle. I think the issues with you with guys and not having any relationships in your 28 and you thinking it's because of your fucking career. Like, I think that's where your issues live.

I didn't say it was because my career. I think it's because I'm smart enough to know when it's just not going to work. Yeah, but I mean, I could say that too. But there's plenty of smart people that are with people. I mean, are they just big stupid? You're still in your 20s. You know what I mean? We went off on tuna because he had no long-term relationships.

But the guy never got laid. He only got laid once by a hooker. That's a problem. Okay, but at 28, no long-term relationship more than three months. It's fine, I mean. You're trying to make me cry right now? Yes. No, I'm not trying to make you cry.

Trying to just try to find you to like see, maybe see things. I'm married to shock a convict. Yeah. I'm in a relationship with that. Right. That fulfills you. No, I'm just saying that that's a fear of commitment. I'm sorry.

It just is. No, it's cool. But, yeah. Tommy's not interested in that stuff at all. But that's good because probably a lot of the colors are another. So take it to someplace shallow right now. Well, no, that's fine. Go.

What? Take it to shallowville? Yeah, take it someplace else. I'm not trying to take it somewhere else. No, I don't think it's good when you do that. I also want to remind, I want Chaka to promote her nights wherever she works and your Facebook and all that stuff. You want him to promote his stuff? Yeah, I want him to promote his stuff.

And then after he does that. He's going to leave and then we're going to analyze him. I want to be here for that. All right. You want me to tell you what I think? Analyzing. Yeah. Tell me.

So just really quick. Yeah. You can catch me every single Wednesday at the real deal at the Ritz, 46, between 8th and 9th. We've got two shows. I'm constantly having sex with cab drivers in the show. That's basically the entire show. And I always have my $2 jello shots every single Wednesday and Friday at the Ritz.

And if you have a car and you're not going to charge him, you could come to the Ritz and pick him up and he'll blow you for a free ride. He'll even tip you at the end. This is what I would discuss with Tommy. And I have no problem saying shit to people's face. So I'll discuss it in front of you if you want. I think it's interesting. It's your perspective.

Yeah, you might get insulted, but I don't think that you will because I think that you probably know that this is true. But like what I would say to Tommy is that I think that what, that you're, you're very, you're very on right now. So it's very hard to get the truth from you because you're more interested in telling jokes and being funny and being funny and being in your

persona than just being who you are. Do you understand? And that, for our call, like, I like people to be more real and just more themselves. I like Phil. You know what I mean? I don't think we got a lot of Phil on this call. Do you feel like with comedians, though, because I do consider myself a comedian, even though I'm a drag queen. Do you feel like that, do you ever get to know them?

Have you ever seen a real interview with Joan Rivers? Do you know what I mean? Yes, actually. Yeah, she did a great documentary where you really got to know her. And I worked, just so you know, my job, I worked. in entertainment with specifically comedians, like hardcore, like with real, I can't out my places, but like at the top places with the top comedians. So I know a ton of comedians. That was like my job. So, yes, you can get to know them, absolutely. And they're very different offstage. And they happen to be

very complex people. And I think, I don't think that you're not complex. I think the reason why I'm having a hard time getting through to you is because you're a fucking comedian and you're complicated and you're warding me off because that's a comedian thing. They're all little, crucifix. They're all a little twisted and complicated, which is what which is what I like about them and why I decided to switch because I was working in an agency and working with actors and I just found them to be so

vapid and boring. And so I'm like, you know, who in the creative world can I work with? And I chose comedians because I found them to be the most interesting, complex, deep kind of people. But sometimes it is hard. I meet someone like you that's like very, very on, on, on. That irritates me because, and you find some comedians that are like that, but I feel like you're hiding

something like who are you really but a lot of comedians you could get past that if you're talking to them off the air you might be like honest because you're on air so you're like acting i mean not to stray away from but it's like i always wondered that you know i'm i'm asking you this question i always wondered you know you see some of those comedians that are like you know who's the guy who is always like uh the redneck guy with his sweater cut um jeff the cable guy yeah yeah the yeah the cable guy. He's obviously not that guy. That's his character. But he always has

to be this, you know what I mean? Well, you know that I work with Gilbert Godfrey. He was one of our clients. And he's not that same care. Like he's He was a maniac when he was on, what was it called up all night? Yeah, but I mean that voice and that thing, that's not him. He's like a very nice normal guy

off thing. I mean, he still has his quirks and he's not like a total average Joe. He doesn't come off and he's completely the opposite end of the spectrum. But he's not that character because I talked to him all the time because he was one of our clients. So that's a little different though. You talk to him all the time. I'm sure the first time you met him. Yeah, but this is still did the voice

and was quacking like a duck, right? Right, but I just like to, I just like to, you know, I like to cross people's boundaries and try to get to the real shit. And you're difficult, you're difficult to get, you're hiding something. That's what I think. What do you think I'm hiding? Who you really are. Phil. It's starting to feel a little bit more bisexual right now. I, I, I am going to have to go to the gym and pick her up. I am very masculine.

Yeah, you might have to pump some iron. But stay chubby, because I like the chubby guys. Yeah, I think you're... Sorry. I think you're... Yeah, I think you're hiding who you are. And that's okay. I think that's a...

We all put walls up, especially when we meet people for the first time. Not everybody. Not as much as this one right here. Yeah? Yeah. Well, I think, I mean, you know, I'm a drag queen. And so I think I've developed my entire career. And really, a part of my life is, like, literally creating a facade.

Right. So it is really tough, you know, when you want to interview a drag queen, but you don't want to interview Philip. Well, Philip showed up here. You're not even in fucking gas. It's hot outside. I would have melted. Oh, come on.

You could have brought a bag and put your shit on. You're underestimating how hard it is to be a drag queen. I see them get ready. Oh, really? It's like hours. Right, right. Okay, but the nature of our show, I'm sorry to do this, too, is to like go beyond. That's what I like to.

It's go beyond that. So you could have shown up here in full drag, and I still would have tried to get to know Phil. Well, I like that, though. Yeah. Yeah, it's more interesting. And I think a lot of people like that. Our fans, I think that that's what they like.

Yeah, but I mean, I could also see Phillips' perspective when you're doing something day in, day out every week on a consistent basis. Because, you know, it's like a lot of people who are in the entertainment and service industry, if you don't work, you don't get paid. So you're constantly working. So while you're always having to have to almost be on, be on beyond. Your only time off is kind of when you're home or you know what I mean. It's I could see how I could see how somebody when they go out the switch goes on whether they don't want it to go on or not.

Totally. I was doing this podcast before I got you as a co-host. I was doing it with a female friend of mine who's a comedian and it didn't work because she wanted to be on all the time and she was so it was so important for her to tell a joke because she's a comedian. She needs that and it's what she does and it's the validation. She thinks she's working so she switches into that mobile. but I didn't like it because it's like that's not the vibe of the show. And I don't, I like real people and real things. It's interesting that you're a drag queen and all these things, but I like to know like real people. Like, I mean, that's why I started this show. It's a call and advice show because I think people are just fascinating.

Like everybody. Agreed. You know, right? I mean, if you really interview and talk to anybody, even the person that's walking on the sheet that looks so boring, like they're fascinating. You know what I mean? Well, don't give them too much credit.

If you ask them enough questions, I don't know. I just think regular people are really interesting. That's why we never. Talk about celebrities really on the show. I don't like to. Because I think regular people, I think Phil is interesting. I just wish I got to know more about Phil.

And, you know, and you're... Well, maybe you guys can go out to dinner. No, no, this is the show. The show is all that doing it on the air. I know. You try to make a hook up. I think Tommy always thinks that I have a little straight in me. I do.

Maybe Mary Lou, it's the Mary Lou thing. Mary Lou Bailey. I'm going to have to call her and be like, listen to me. You fuck two guys. Are you still friends with her? Enough. You know, Facebook, you're kind of friends with everybody always. I know, but not really friends.

I'm just tired of Facebook now. I'm just, unfortunately, I don't ever see that ending, but I just hate how everybody has a window into, I mean, obviously it's you only, you know, they only see what you post, but it's just, uh. I don't post anything on there. Nobody knows anything that I'm doing. As far as I'm concerned, everyone in my high school thinks I'm a lesbian, because they've never seen. seen one picture of me with a guy. Which high school? You were like thrown out of 50 of them. No, three.

Three. Three high schools. The main high school, like my town high school. Oh, yeah? Yeah, the other, the high school I graduated from, they were so fucking wayward. They're all like a mess. I'm the only like normal one that came out of there because I really changed myself. Because I was wayward when I'm younger, but I'm not wayward at all.

What's an example? Of what? Like, why did you get kicked out of? Three school. Oh, because I was so bad. I was just really bad. I was very rebellious. I had a tough time when I was younger and I acted out for sure.

And I would not listen to anybody. I mean, it started with my parents. No one could tell me what to do. I was very much my own personality. Plus I was very smart. Plus I was fucked up. So that was a very bad combination. And you put me in a place with rules and regulations and any kind of structure.

And I was like, I'm not fucking into this. I hated being a child. It was not fun for me. I like being an older person doing my thing. And as an older person, I'm actually the opposite. I'm like super not rebellious, super like together. Super normal, but as a child, I rebelled hardcore. Because I didn't like to be told what to do.

I didn't like authority figures. And I had issues with my parents, so I acted out, and I got thrown out because I wouldn't listen to anyone. But you had to go through that, you know, to become, like, the more introspective adult that you are. 100%. Been there, done that. But, you know, it's weird because I went to this school for people that get thrown out of school. And, like, a lot of the people I've gotten in contact with. No, it was just a school for people that didn't do well in the main school.

I know what school it was. You can't say the name. I won't say the name. But you don't know the school was. It wasn't the famous one where all the people stabbed each other. I went to the other one. Like there was two and they tested you and took your IQ to see which one you went to. And the one like where everyone stabbed each other was for the stupid people.

I went to the one for the really smart people. Smart people. My Q's 140. I was like a genius. And I was put in the smart people that got kicked out of high school. Are you mensa? Are you a part of it? No, that's not a menza thing.

No. I tried. I took the menza test. I was a little couple points ahead. I mean below. below I'm not men's a smart I'm smart enough to be fucking weird and fucked up

do you know what I mean that's a little of that's when I grew up I cannot relate to you at all because I grew up completely wanting to please everyone well yeah but let me just tell you that that's a different side of the same coin you could put two kids and give them the same kind of trauma or some kind of trauma

and there's two ways to work it out one works it out outward and rebels and does everything and acts out and one person acts in and tries to please everybody and that's a whole other thing And they become a little bit more narcissistic, egomaniacs. And you don't really see their issues as much as you might see someone like mine. But it's the same shit.

Different side of the same coin. I like that, though. And you just, you called it good. Yeah, it's just the way that it goes. You should be a therapist. That's why I do this because I never wanted to. You want to know why I couldn't be a therapist? No, because all my friends call me up for issues and problems.

Even Tommy. Tommy doesn't realize this. But every time Tommy was down in the dumps, he would always call me to talk. And that's the friend that I am because I am good with advice. But the reason why I can never be a therapist is because you're not allowed to really shove your opinions on people's throats or tell them what you think. You kind of have like my therapist is really great. She just like goes with me. You know what I mean?

I'm too opinionated to be a real therapist. I get so nervous trying to give friends advice. I have a close friend of mine's going through some stuff right now in like a relationship. And I always hate, you know, you never want to push the view on somebody. Right. Because unfortunately with people who are married or like long-term relationship, you try to help your friend. And even though you know the partner, they always get back together. And the partner always hates you.

Dagger. Yeah. And you're just like, I had that happen to me. And it's just an uncomfortable situation. So the same thing, my wife, I always tell her. I say, don't get involved. And she's like, why? I was like because.

Girl always get involved. No, because they're going to get back together. And then we're going to have to go to dinner with people. and it's just going to be uncomfortable. Yeah, but I don't necessarily take sight. Like, that's not like my thing. And I believe that people are free spirits. Like, I don't like to really rule anybody's life.

People could do whatever they want. I help in a different way, and that's why I think people call me and tell me. I'm also very non-judgmental. So my, you never called me up when I told you what to do. You just called me up when you were down. No, to confide in a friend sort of. Yeah, so I don't think I really tell people what to do, but I like to try to help people see the truth.

I get asked for advice all the time. You know, something, there's something about, like, that motherly thing with drag where, like, I feel like a lot, maybe, like, some gay guys maybe don't have the best relationship with their parents. They go to a bar, they see a drag queen, and they, like, just, they just ask questions. Oh, interesting. Three weeks ago, this guy came up to me and was like, you know, Mark is cheat. I'm so bad at this anonymous thing. Sorry. I could delete it out if you want me to.

Yeah, we'll delete it out. I won't say the boyfriends. Don't use names. Okay. He was like, you know, he's cheating on me. And I was like, well, you don't deserve that. You know, fuck that, dude. Like, peace out.

I actually didn't even tell you about this. It was three, maybe a month ago. And the next day I was here, I was at work. And the boyfriend came and just took an entire drink and dumped it on my head. When you were on your makeup on? Yes, my head my makeup. Oh, shit. And he just dumped it on my head.

And I was just like, okay. So, you know, I got security and they took him out. And I was like, you and I can talk about this later. Like, we can mend this. And then, you know, two days later, he came and it was apologetic to me. It was just like, you told him to leave me. And I was like, you sucked another guy's dick. Right.

I mean, but then I realized, first of all, shut your mouth, shocka. Shut your mouth, shocka. Right. And just, I should have just been like, you know what? Maybe he. No, I don't see. No, first of all, that guy was the wrong one in the situation. You just gave, you said what 90% of people would say to somebody if they said, oh, my boyfriend fucked another guy.

Say, dump him. Like, that's what everyone was. I mean, the fact that he. threw a drink on your face makes him the weirdo. Like you're not the wrong person in that situation. I mean, come on. Yeah. For real.

I mean, then I did try to have sex with his boyfriend. No, I'm kidding. I didn't. I'm joking. You probably could have. Like, seriously. He sucks someone else's dick. You need to get even.

How manipulative. Yeah, that would be great. That would be a good story. That would be a good story. You have a story like that, Brad? I don't like, I would never want to be that manipulative to somebody. Right. I mean, I've, you know, I've like, competitively, yes, like,

I've gotten other drag queens fire. Oh, really? That's not nice. They deserved it. It's terrible. They were taking my gigs. No, that's so terrible. You literally get people fired?

I don't get people fired. I got a queen fired. One. Yeah. Okay. So you exaggerate it because you're like, I've gotten Queens fired. So you got one person fired. No, I've also had, I've gotten Go-Go Boys fired.

I don't like that. That's not nice. You can't fuck with people's life like that. I don't agree with that. I was, well, that queen I actually did. And I'm not like her. It's not good karma for you. Well, you don't know what she did to me.

It doesn't matter. People do horrible things to me. You never fight dirty like that. What's fighting dirty? I don't know. Yeah, turning around and getting someone fired. No, you never do. Let them be scumbags.

Don't go lower than that. I know, but then you have to work with a scumbag. Who cares? That's life. That's life. I got to work with Tommy. He's late. He cancels.

He's so irritating. He doesn't listen to the podcast. He's bored half the time. He doesn't even want to talk. I'm the best co-host. Okay. And I have to deal. I don't get him fired.

I try, keep trying to fire him. She's like, I love him. He's a great co-host, and I really like him, so I have to deal. Well, maybe next time I'll try to deal with some of them. Yeah, try not to do that, but we're not going to get to that because that's boring. So we're not going to talk about you. We're just going to wrap up this one. We're not going to have our thing where we talk after.

Yeah, but let me go on and remind the caller. So if you, you know, this is the first time we actually had a live guest. And, you know, we want to hear from you because you kind of drive the, the car sort of say you dictate how the show goes with your comments so don't forget to email us at strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com um the twitter and the facebook you know strict anonymous um we want to hear feedback from you the write-ins and stuff like that you know the last show we did we did we read the emails from everybody um so that's also great we want to do another show like that in a few weeks so we need to hear your comments you know what i forgot to talk about

in the beginning of the call and I wanted to, but we'll do it on the next calls. I got a lot of emails about whether John's a liar or not. Because we have this guy John on the show who fucks a lot of people with his wife. You got to subscribe to the podcast. You got to listen to a couple of them. And write a review. And right. Yes.

No, but, and so we asked the listeners because I think he's lying at this point. I might not even. And a lot of people wrote in, which I'll talk about. And we also have a jiz quiz. Yes. I'm obsessed with finding out whether guys like the jizz on girls' faces or not because I have a whole analysis about that. and it keeps coming up on the podcast. So I posted a Jiz quiz.

I think like 20 something people have already taken it. So take our Jiz quiz. It's on our Twitter if you want to find it or on the Facebook. And I also want to plug my whiskey. Did anybody send any pictures in? No. Damn it. All right.

So if you do something fucked up with a cold cock bottle, American whiskey. That sounds very. We're going to send you a T-shirt. So it's Coldcock, Herbal American Fused Whiskey. It's the only one out there. So send us a pick. We'll send you a T-shirt.

And that's all like that's all like that's all like that. Yeah. Thanks, Philip. Thanks, Thank you guys. Yeah, Shaka Conveck. Go to his website. I really want to thank the Australian madam that backed out because this was awesome guys.

Thank you so much. Oh, good. We love that. Okay, cool. Cool. Bye. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly

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