Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 037 - Will Smith is Gay

Episode Date: August 25, 2014

Will Smith lost his virginity to a girl in the 5th grade and then to a guy in 7th grade. Listen in to hear about how he tried to turn himself straight by screwing women after his first gay experience with his christian counselor, as well as hear about his much later experiences with couples and straight guys, both in the military and out. Tune in for all the detials. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. Craigslist is definitely the gift like it's not given. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it. The temptation is just too much.

Real problem. Does your friend know that you're banging her? No, he has no idea. And anything goes. The motto of the show, let your reflect lie. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to re-hide your whips and change. Here are your hosts, Kathy Kay and Tommy. Hey, welcome to the Strait of the podcast, and you're on the phone with Kathy.

And as promise, I have a co-host with me, and my co-host is my cousin, Stephanie. Hey, Stephanie. Say hi. Hello. Hello, everyone. Hi. I know I have to just talk about your voice for one second. It's like a disclaimer.

I need to let everyone know because this is an explicit podcast. It says explicit. I have to check that off. And we do talk about adult material. And though Stephanie sounds like she's 12, she is of age. She's actually 30, even though you sound 15. Not even. You sound seven, actually.

You don't even sound like a teenager. You sound like a fucking toddler. Talk. Really, you sound like a toddler. I'm going to need a voice coach after this complex you're giving me. You literally sound like a toddler. You really do. I don't know your voice sounds so young,

but I just want the listeners to know that you are of age. I guess I am over 18 Yeah and so Stephanie doesn't live Anywhere near me so she's the co-host over the phone And since you're on a different time It was okay that I kept pushing back I mean the podcast today later and later But I have Mountain Time call a Pacific

I had to Google when Mountain Time This is how stupid I am It's really embarrassing to admit But like I was just trying to figure out Mountain Time When I once went on a cross-country road trip with a boyfriend And we went through so many different time zones We kept losing and gaining an hour Within an hour's like a half hour time

We'd be in another place and it'd be like Oh it's an hour earlier and later And like I'm obsessed with time zone I need someone to call in that lives Like across the street from a time zone change Like because I want to know how those people deal with it Like you know what I'm saying Like somebody lives down the street from a place

Where it's a different an hour way right? So like how does that work? You go over your friend's house for dinner And you gain an hour Then you go home and you're late because it's an hour. Like, how does that fucking work? I always, yeah.

You know, but I think it's Arizona or Nevada, one of those states that they never changed their time. So I went there once on a vacation, and it was the same time as California. I went there again for another visit, and it was an hour difference, and I was mind-fucked the entire time I was there because I had no idea why sometimes it was different,

and sometimes it wasn't. It was very weird. So they just always keep the same time? Yeah. I don't understand. why that is. Yeah, I don't understand. And what goes on in Arizona?

Like, what do they have to keep constant time for? I don't know. Maybe aliens? I don't know. Don't they have a lot of UFOs there. I don't know, but I googled the whole time zone thing and times in the middle of the country and there's a little weird shit that goes on there.

It's very confusing. I don't even know how many, I don't know, how many time zones are there in America? There's Pacific Mountain, Eastern. Central and, yeah, what the fuck is Central? One hour difference? I have no idea I know I didn't really know I was very confused

Central is two hours From you But you're talking From me To me To me The New York where I live Is the center of the universe

So we need to calculate the time zones from me Oh So I'm trying to figure So I was trying to figure I kept changing the podcast tonight And then I had to figure out You want to talk about why you were late Why?

Because I was on a date with a guy I know I told him but I let him know that I was actually going to be late for my podcast because for him. And that's a compliment because I'm not late to anything. Like I am such an on-time person, Simon Fannie. I wouldn't even really be late to a guy for a guy. But I was late for him because he was just like, I'm just literally on like a makeout high.

I don't know if you could tell. That's why I'm talking so fast. You can sound a little more peppy today. I'm on a makeout high. You've never had a makeout high or like that endorphin rush you get when you feel around. you. Yeah, that endorphin rush you get when you make out with someone that's really, like, really good and it's really fun and you have a good time. You should do that every day.

Every podcast? No, I feel a little high from it. I think it's actually not a good thing. I think I'm a little overly enthusiastic now. I once called up, what? Are you going to be able to pay attention to this caller? Yeah, totally. No, totally.

Absolutely. I turned on all my lights like I'm like in reality now yeah I had to throw them out I really honestly would have canceled the pot if I had like five podcasts in the bag and I didn't really have to do it I probably would have pushed it for another day but I really needed to do it because I didn't want him to leave he's um but I did and I'm good to go it's fine I though I don't know like I actually called my friend Robert Kelly um once from a waiting room and I had to whisper and he's like Kathy why why is your voice done so great I'm like what do you mean he's like it's so low and sexy I'm like well I'm in a waiting room so he's like you should channel like you should talk like this all the time so I don't know I think maybe I was talking like this like is that better is that a better way to talk he said

that it sounded like this is how I would talk in a waiting room do you think I should talk like this all the time Stephanie no sounds kind of creepy oh maybe it's because it's sexy and that's creepy for you because he was like oh this is sexy Kathy I've never

Yeah, that's creepy. I'm not going to have the same reaction. So gross. It's gross. Right, right. I can't do that on my podcast. I can't do that on my podcast with my callers, right? You know, but I think I do need to slow down, talk a little slower.

I think I need to talk a little bit lower a little bit. And I think I got the no cursing thing. down. I definitely don't curse too much. And I don't think the makeout high is good because I think I'm a little bit hyper. Plus, I had some coffee with him. He tried to turn me onto this amazing coffee and it actually was really

good and then I had some green tea at dinner. So I'm a little jacked on caffeine too, plus the high from the filling around. And so, you know, I think I just need to relax into the call. And I'll be fine. So who are we talking to?

Oh, we're talking to Will Smith. Do you know who Will Smith? that's a real will smith will smith is his name and he's actually he's a gay guy he found us because he listened to the maverick men episode or he was like googling them and somehow he found the podcast and he listened to it and then he said he started to listen to all the other ones and he decided that maybe he'd you know we'd be interested in his stories and uh this is what he said he said i got a lot to discuss and i think you might be interested to hear some of my stories we could

possibly chat about my first experience with a guy, the battle I had with fucking a bunch of chicks to, in quotes, turn myself back straight, L.O.L. We could discuss how difficult it is to have straight friends because I've been hit on by multiple straight guys, some who were dating female friends at the time, and we could also talk and discuss about the few couples I've dated. Do you think, do you think, so first of all, I love the fact that he's, his female friends, boyfriends are hitting on him behind their backs. And do you think what couples, when he says we could discuss a few couples, that he's couples with women or couples, gay couples? I don't know, because he says he screws girls to turn himself straight and he's, you know, his friends. So I don't know.

Do you think that the couples are gay couples or heterosexual couples? Well, maybe gay couples because if he's, well, maybe he's bisexual. That's why he's hooking up those. No, but he said he fucked about. bunch of chicks to turn himself back straight. So, I don't know, but I think he's a straight-up gay guy. Well, maybe gay couples then. Yeah, I don't know.

Yeah, but it's all interesting. I love that, you know, we had the Maverickman on because I like to have all kinds of callers on the show and, you know, we've always, we haven't. I actually taped a by guy once. It was such a great call, but the connection was really bad and he mumbled so much. It was just like no one could hear him. so I lost that call and he was never able to call back. But I'm glad that we have like a gay guy calling in that has some interesting stories.

Yeah, this is going to bring like a lot of, a lot more interesting topics. What do you mean? What are you trying to say my topics are interesting? No, no, no, they're interesting, but I think because it's been all heterosexual men. It hasn't by the way. Now, what? Well, I had a drag queen. I had the Maverick men.

starting to try. I like to try all different things. Like honestly, I just, you know, I just need to just get more people. I'll talk to anybody about anything. That's what the listeners need to. Yeah, but this is like a gateway into another world because you and I don't know anything about being a gay name. Yeah, no,

I love it. I love the whole gay community. Yeah, now this is good. Yeah, I love the whole gay community because they're a little bit more open and they do things very different and you learn about guys from them because, you know, at the end of the day, you know, they're, they're just guys being able to be more guy-like. You know, I have to always tell a lot of my straight friends, like, you'd be happier if

you were fucking gay, you know, because the women of men are very different in certain ways. But anyway, we'll let's get him on the call. We'll be right back with, we'll be right back with Will. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag lie and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com, with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Strictly anonymous.

Hey, Will Smith, you're on the air with me and Stephanie. Holy hell. I know, I'm going to edit that shit out. I'll edit out your real name. You're Stephanie. That's what you say. you always say you're going to edit stuff out, but you never end up editing it. First of all, just so you know, I always do.

Okay, sometimes I don't edit out the fact that I say I'm going to edit it out, but I edit out what I was going to edit. Does that make sense? It makes sense, but you might want to listen to some of your own episodes. Wow. I feel like I'm already starting off on a bad foot. No, no, no. First of all, Will Smith, I need to give people a little backstory on Will Smith,

because me and him have been chatting tonight because I had to have to push the podcast out a little later and Will Smith might be half cocked right now and drunk because he kept talking about cocktails and I might be on my fifth cocktail. So are you drunk right now? Will. Are you? I'm not drunk. I'm too old to get drunk. How old are you? I'm slightly buzzed. How old are you? I'm in my 30s. You're in your 30s. Okay, so we read you're too old. Okay. And how old are you will? I'm 32. He's 32 and you think you're too old to be drunk. Yeah, I'm too old To get drunk

Really? Well, you know what? I felt that way I 34 and I quit drinking Because I felt like an old person in a bar I swear to God I haven't drank in 11 years I mean you laugh But that's a true story I think you're going to the wrong bars

You're so drunk Why do you think Are you joking when you say you think I'm like this all the time I swear Okay so wait Your story is really interesting What I remember from your email is that you're gay I mean you found the podcast right

because you were Googling the Maverickman? Yeah, they came through my news feed on Tumblr, and they kind of rep the show, and that's how I got turned on to your podcast. They what? They rep the show, what did you say? Yeah, they rep your show. I gave you a shout out.

Oh, they did. Oh, that's good to know. Maybe that's, I was wondering if they ever did anything for it. Oh, so then you listened. Did you listen to their episode? Yeah, I listened to the episode, and I thought it was really, really interesting and good. And then that in turn, you know, made me, you know, go back and listen to some of the older episodes.

Yeah, and I'm glad, you know, because I wanted more gay guys to call in. I mean, I get straight guys that fuck trannies and get blowjobs through glory holes. I don't know if you've heard those stories of those people. But I didn't really, I never had a real. I had one guy that was bisexual, but something happened with the tape so I never got to air that. But your story is like you're a gay guy. You fucked girls and tried to go straight. and you fucked couples,

and that's the kind of shit we're going to get into, right? I mean, that's, like, really your deal. And I'm glad, though, that I had the Maverick men on so that I have a, like, I do have the audience of someone like you listening

that could call in, you know, because it's like, I want to hear from everybody. Yeah, definitely. Well, my first experience was actually with a chick, though. How old were you? I mean, you're full-fledged gain now, right?

Like, you're... Yeah. Right. Okay, cool. And so your first experience, how old were you when you lost your virginity? I don't know I know I was in fifth grade

Fifth grade What don't judge me I mean but you don't think that is that's maybe not sex That's called rape like or incest or like Yeah We were both in fifth grade My first partner that I explored with Okay

I stumbled upon some of my father's like tapes And it got me Interested in you know and she'll be back teaching sex education on the school bus. Right. You were talking about horn. You made everyone horny on the school bus in fifth grade. Yeah.

Okay, but I think that kind of stuff, like honestly, I think that kind of stuff is natural. Like, people do do those kind of things. But, like, and then you go play around a little bit touchy-feely here and there, but not, there's not, like, full-on sex. When you say you lost your virginie, like, your dick went into, someone's badge at fifth grade? Yes.

Really? That's shocking to me. And it was another fifth grader. Yeah, yep, yes. I remember her name? I actually still talk to her. I know what her name. I have a feeling I know what her name.

It was her name Jada Smith. Jada Pinkett. Is that her fucking name? Yes, it was definitely Jada. Let's go with that. So you met Jada on the school bus and she got turned on by your

dirty stories well it was kind of you know hey look at this and then I kind of talked her into kissing it and I'm like well you already kissed it but wait where were you in the back of the school bus under coats oh wait a second

on the school bus in the back and you pull out your wean and show it to her yeah and so first you showed it to her and she's like oh my god and then you said now that you saw it you should suck it or lick it or kiss it what yeah i talked her into kissing it and and mind you this wasn't all in one setting like this took a little bit of of time and coaching so um you know another

day you know i'm just like oh well you already kissed it you might as well lick on it and you know I talked her into doing bed, and eventually I talked her into actually, you know, sitting on it and riding. Wait, on the bus. Yeah, all in the school bus. You're shitting me. We don't even have to get into that. I fucking swear. Wait, we don't even have to talk about the other stories.

Let's just talk about all this kind of fucking you had in the back of the school bus in fifth grade. Like, I mean, you got to be kidding me. For real? Yeah, no, no, I swear. Is this what happens nowadays? or is, do you, like, were everyone doing that in your school, or were you the only one? I don't know if everyone was doing it. I know a lot of people were kind of lying about it.

But was everybody watching? Oh, yeah. No, everybody was kind of doing their own stuff. You know, it's a school bus, so everybody's, like, throwing papers and screaming and, you know, doing what kids do, you know, on school buses. So I don't think anybody was really paying attention. Right. So you guys had full on sex. And like after you had it once, like did you just do it all the time?

Or was it just the one time experience? Yeah, like in the coat rooms, just like crazy. But the funny thing is like back then, I don't think that I actually came. Really? But there was definitely intercourse. It was going in and out. And did she have orgasms? Do you know?

No, I think it was just uncomfortable. Maybe you didn't have an orgasm because you were. gay though I mean because I think maybe a strict do you think maybe that was the reason why you didn't come or do you think you're just too young no it's because he was 11 what did you say I said no it was because he was 11 no I don't think so I jerked off when I was way younger than that and would come by

myself like you could come when you're 11 you were coming when you jerked off right I know I have been I have had sex with females I have had sex with couples and I came. So I think it was just, you know, just me being young trying to figure out the whole anatomy situation. Right. Okay.

So that was just like you're like you're sort of figuring stuff out. But did you know, okay, but what I want to know, like as a gay man, now that you know that you're totally gay, at that point when you were younger, did you have any idea that you were gay or you liked boys or did you think you straight up like girls? Yeah, no. I think even back then I knew just watching my first porn I was much more intrigued by

than by the girl so I think I knew but it was just you know the whole developmental phase because it wasn't accepted and I was like no I'm supposed to like this so let me try to get into it right like and in fifth grade like when you were flown around with that girl did you did you could you tell then that you weren't into it Do you remember? No, then I was just kind of exploring and I was really, really excited to, you know, be kind of imitating some of what I've seen on the video. Right. And just that's, I got to tell you, when I was younger, I couldn't wait to have sex and just get into that world.

Like, you know what I mean? Like, honestly, I'd like read these magazines when I was younger, like Cosmo and stuff and they'd have these sex quizzes. And I'd be so pissed that I couldn't relate. You know what I mean? And I wasn't a part of that world. And I swear at a very young age, I just couldn't wait to start having sex and just get into that whole thing. So I understand that. You know what I mean?

Like just excited to be doing it, right? That's how I felt. Yeah, definitely. So, but I didn't start flowing out of fifth grade. And something funny had to happen during that time. And I was talking to some of my older cousins and I try to keep it short. And they were like, hey, did you use a condom? I'm just like, what's bad?

I didn't see the video. And they let me to believe that, hey, well, if you don't use the condom, then the girl's pregnant. So I ended up going back to school the next day and saying, hey, Jada, I think you're pregnant. She called her mom. Her mom called my mom. And it was pretty tough. And poor Jada had not even had her period yet, right? I mean, had she even had a period?

Doesn't anyone figure it out? I have no idea. I'm going to have to call her and ask her like off the line. Right. Yeah, that is hilarious. So, okay, so after Jada and the school bus, do you keep banging girls? Like, when did you eventually realize?

Because I think some people are by, right? Like, how did you know you weren't by? Because just growing up, because I went through a phase, and then I ended up. up, you know, having a sexual, you know, relationship or intercourse with, um, with a guy and went through this whole phase of, you know, uh, I would fuck a guy or mess around with a guy and then I would try to fuck three chicks to turn myself back straight and just kind of went

through this whole cycle of, uh, denial, so to speak. Of the what? Of like denial. Oh, denial. Right, right, right after you'd be with a guy. Yeah, so if I'm with the guy, then I'm like, oh, shit, I can't be, you know, I can't be gay. I don't want to be gay. So, you know, let me try to find a whole bunch of girls and try to bang them.

And so that's what you would do. How old were you when you first started having sex with men? I'm sorry, but wait, we need to reference her boys. Hold on, Will, doesn't Stephanie sound like she's 12? I just want you know because we're talking about our rated stuff, that she is of age, okay? She's not a minor, even though she sounds like one. Right, you're going to get retorted. She sounds like a little kid.

I don't know how to sound older. No, it's okay. How old were you? How old were you when you started having sex with men? Like seventh grade? Yeah, I think it was around seventh or eighth grade. How did you know seven grade? How did you guess that?

I don't know. Seventh grade, you like had anal sex with a guy? Yeah. How did that come about? It wasn't, don't please don't tell me it was in the school bus. It was actually being, I hope you guys were sitting down. Okay, it was actually my youth pastor at the time. No.

Oh, how. My family was. No, I hear about this. Like, some people would think that that's rape too, but it's not. What do you mean your youth pastor? Was he a younger guy or was he really old? He was significantly older than me. How old was he and how old was you?

Remember, this is anonymous, so nobody knows anything. You're basically Will Smith. Okay, so don't worry about out of him. But we do want to know the real ages, for sure. sure. Yeah, well, he was out of high school at the time, and I was still in elementary schools that kind of put things in perspective. Okay, so you're like around seventh or eighth grade, and he's like a high, 21. Do you know his age? What was he? Like, it was he in his 20th, 30s? I don't remember his age, but I would say, I would say maybe 18, 19. Okay, and then.

I would say. And how did it cross the line? Did he just start fondling you and it was like a molestation thing at first and then you're just like this is great or did you guys develop a relationship well we had a relationship already and we used to hang out you know all the time um at one point we kind of started wrestling and you know i guess turned on oh yeah guys totally wrestle all the time i mean they do no i'm not making a joke they don't get they don't get woodies no i know but that's a big joke about guys that it's like so homoerotic all these guys are so into wrestling but they don't like guys but you see them rolling around it is like i mean i feel like if that's the way to know whether you're into guys start wrestling if you're if you could do it without

getting a heart on then you're not fucking gay right yeah yeah that would be like the general rule of them right so you're wrestling and you started to get turned on with him right so i kind of pulled back and, you know, kind of tried to hide it. And he kind of reassured me and told me it was all right and grabbed my hand and put it on his dick and was like, hey, you know, see, you know, I'm, you know, it's happening to me as well. Right. And did that make you feel good? Yeah, it made me feel comfortable.

Right. Because you had never been with the guy at all, right? And so this is basically the first time you're like admitting to anybody, right, that you are exposing that part of yourself. Yep That must be like totally freeing right for you Yeah Yeah I'm like okay I'm not weird

I'm not the only one All right let's see where this goes So obviously at that point I was kind of intrigued and You know it kind of progressed from there Well how soon after did you guys like get it on Well we kind of messed around a little bit That day

Like he gave me head I gave him head and that was pretty much the extent of it. As I guess time progressed and we started hanging out more, we started exploring other things. And he actually

ended up stripping down and kind of riding me. The next time. So he came, right. And now I know that there's a whole like, oh, someone's the top, someone's the bottom. Are most gay guys guys just like either or or do both

of the go either way? Like, what's the deal? I think everybody likes to put people in boxes Right If I'm in the box I would be versatile Because I enjoy being fucked

And fucking Right So you're like both Right Yeah But do you find in the gay community I mean I'm just curious That's why I'm asking

Do you find in the gay community That like that are either Either or Or like what's the majority Of Pete guys like? I think The majority of guys are either or or bottoms. Oh, really?

Because like I always guys are like, yeah, I'm versatile, or yeah, I'm a top, but then they see me and they want me to fuck them, which is fine. Right. But they don't want to, but they, so that means they're a bottom, right? Yeah. And I mean, I don't know, like I'm not big to put people in, in categories. You know what I'm saying? I enjoy being, you know, sexually fluid and free.

You know, if I had to categorize, I would say that most people, most gay guys are bottomed. So how long did you with this guy hook up? And like immediately after you hooked up with him the first time, did you feel guilty and you feel like, oh, my God, I don't want to like be into this. So I need to go fuck girls. Is that how it started? Yeah. Like immediately after, you know, I was alone and I, you know, cross. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm going to hell.

Because you never think about it. I grew up in a very, like, Christian, like, household. So, you know, it was just all of this overwhelming guilt after the fact. I can imagine, right. And it's like a big secret you're carrying. Are you guys doing this at church or are you meeting other places? No, no, no, no. It's not in church.

Oh, well, I don't know. You were banging girls on a school bus. I have no idea. No, we would like take trips and, you know, park places. I remember one time he had a hotel. If my mom wasn't home, he would come over sometimes. There's a number of places, but we never did it in church. And were you guys out together?

Like, so you guys, it was like you guys were living, you guys had a total secret because you guys were sort of friends out in public, right? And everybody thought you guys were just buddies, right? But secretly, you guys would get it on, right? Yep, yep Is that a part of like the hotness of it Like did that make it a little bit even more Like sort of like hot for you

Because it was so kind of dangerous or a secret Or did that actually ruin it for you? I think at the time I confused You know what I'm saying? Right So I didn't think that that was hot or not hot I was enjoying what we had

But then afterwards I would feel bad about it Right. And then you go screw girls. It was kind of like this cycle, yeah. And then when you were with a girl, like you could have, you could orgasm, right? Like you could get off on it? Yes. But were you like, oh, tits, like you just see tits and you're just like, I don't even know what to do with these?

No, I mean, I remember I've watched a lot of videos. So I would just kind of pull from, you know, from my mental library, so to speak. and, you know, like, okay, I saw this, and I remember, you know, they pulled this back and, you know, put your tongue here. So, you know, I was really literally, you know, kind of experimenting. Right. So it was okay. And it was exciting. Like, I was parted on at the time.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Do you think maybe, I know you don't like to put in boxes or anything, right? But these are just words we're using to sort of gauge. Like, do you think maybe you're slightly by? Because, like, I always think that people fall on a spectrum, right? some are totally homo, some are totally hetero, and then a lot of people fall in the

middle, right? And some people will give them percentages like, oh, I'm 80% gay, 20% buy, you know, whatever. Like, do you think maybe you have a 5% of you that, like, is into chicks? Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Definitely, chicks are hot. You know what I'm saying?

Right. Right. But I know what I like for, and I know what turns me on more. Right, that's what I meant. If I would get this gay. Yeah, I think that there's some gay guys that bit, not one bit of a girl

turns them on. But I think that, you know, there's also some like you, that, like, they could see why it's a little, like you said, it's a little fun or whatever, but you know for sure that you weigh like guys more. But would girls fall for you and, like, did you have real girlfriends? I have had real girlfriends in the past. I haven't had one for a long time. But yeah. What was your longest girlfriend?

probably about a year or very close to a year and did they ever like do those girls know now that you're gay like when did you come out of the closet i don't even i don't hope that i'm not jumping too far so like when did you come out of the closet are you out of the closet um i don't think i was ever in the closet like you know i'm i'm weird and sorry that i'm your first gay weird caller but um what do you mean i love that I feel like, you know, my business is my business. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just, I'm just regular.

So I don't walk around and hold a flag. If you saw me in the club, you probably, you know, wouldn't know, and then again, you may, but it's not that important to me. You know what I'm saying? No, but I mean, I mean to your family and friends, to all the other people. okay when you're screwing that you're you know Jesus counselor you're not nobody knows that you're screwing that guy right and you're with women that's but you people know you're with women so you were keeping that a secret right so obviously you're that's what I mean by being in the closet like

when did you become open that you fuck around with guys um it was just kind of I guess straddling the sense so to speak um I finally kind of came to the realization that this is me is not going to change and, you know, who gives a damn either you like it or you you don't. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. So that was probably for me. That was probably when I was 22 years old is when I really kind of started finding myself, so to speak.

Right. And then I know that you said in the email that I remember you saying that it's hard to have straight friends because you get hit on them, right? Or by when they're dating your female friends. I mean, Stephanie, can you believe this? We can be dating guys that are hitting on our gay friends behind our backs. Like, that's out of control. The streak I'm on, it's only a matter of time until that happens to me.

But wait, so you have female friends that are dating guys and they get, they know that you're gay, right? because their girls tell them. Yeah, they both know. And then how do they hit on you? Okay. And just to clarify, I think in some instances, they just try to make me feel comfortable,

but they try so hard that it makes me feel uncomfortable. What do you mean? I don't know what you mean. Explain. Oh, like, they all over condensate? Yeah, like, okay, I'll give you a few examples. I move around quite a bit, And at one point I was staying with a friend.

And, you know, her dude, you know, after she leaves to work, he would walk around, you know, in his boxers and, like, jump in the bed with me and try to watch TV. And, you know, to me, it wouldn't look right if me and you, you know, are in our boxers just watching TV. So, you know, situations like that, wrestling, another friend of mine. And they know you're gay. They're not doing that to make you feel comfortable. They're doing that to cross boundaries with themselves and have a little gainess themselves. I'm telling you. No straight guy is going to do that.

Come on. No straight guy is going to do that. That's a straight guy that has a secret desire to be with a man, maybe 5% of him or 2% of him or 80% of him, but he doesn't have the balls enough to really do it. And he's getting his feet wet with you. Trust me. No guy's doing that to make you feel comfortable. You're, no. They're doing that to get a little Woody

and then they go home and they jerk off and think about you. I mean, that's just what I think. I mean, come on. That's how it started for you, wrestling. Okay. Right? Yeah, and grown adults, I'll tell you. Yeah, did you ever grab their joint and see if they're hard?

No, well, because, you know, like I was cooler with the female so I'm just like, yo, this is a line I don't want to cross, especially in that particular situation where, you know, I'm crashing with you for, you know, a period of time. Right. You know, you don't want to shit where you work or sleep. Yeah, that's a really, I mean, for the podcast, it would be really great if you did create some sort of mess like that. It would be really interesting. Because, I mean, to have a gay guy fucking around with his female friend's boyfriend, like, that's a great triangle that I'd love to talk about. But, you know, I think it's nice that you haven't done that yet.

So obviously you've never hooked up with one of your female friends' boyfriends. Have you ever? What do you say? Have you ever told your friends that their boyfriends are like in your bed and their boxers? They care. That particular friend because that friend is a little bit crazy. And she was a situation. with another friend of mine where every time I would come over,

he would, like, take off his shirt and, like, unbletting his pants and just, like, walk around. And I kind of just assumed that, you know, that's how he always was until she kind of pulled me to the side and was just like, hey, you know, do you, this is strange. And I was like, look here, strange. And this is also happening and this is so happening. Oh, this was the girlfriend. He had a girlfriend, too.

was your friend. This is a completely separate instance. But this is another one that's the same scenario, meaning this is a female friend of yours, this is her boyfriend, and he's taking his pants off and walking around in front of you? Yeah.

And she was, and he would do it in front of her? Yeah, if she was there, like he would take off his shirt, he wouldn't take off his pants. Okay. But if I was just there and she ran out to the store,

like he, you know, do that or run in and take it. a shower and come out with just a towel on and of course the towel will fall and it's you are kidding no i'm like straight i'm a bad porn i'm will smith i have nothing exactly that's why i let's why i do my show like this but you get it like you have a fake name i don't know where the fuck you're from like you that's why this is how you get people to be honest because to me the honest stories is what's so fascinating like this shit really goes down and it's like it sounds like a joke but i I know that this is like real thing.

So these guys, these straight guys are so not straight. They're coming out and dropping their towel by accident. And I'm sure they like the guy that works in the pizza place down the street from everybody, right? Like these are real straight, straight guys, right? Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Wow. And so they dropped their thing.

And then I can't even believe they could do this with a straight face. It's so obvious. Yeah. I mean, I would get just so uncomfortable because, you know, the whole situation and the triangle. So like a lot of times like leave on the phone or do something to kind of distract myself.

I mean, because these are like hot guys too. You know what I'm saying? These are, you know. Right. They're like good looking guys with nice bodies and they're exposing themselves to you. And you have to like kind of keep it together. Because you're in the worst position

because these girls are your friends and you don't want to be a scumbag. I mean, other guys might actually get it on and get into all of that. stuff, but that's not your thing, right? So it is uncomfortable. Yeah. But if you ever cross that line, make sure you call us.

I will, I swear. But wait, the girl that saw the boyfriend that was like, and then did you tell her, oh yeah, he goes to the shower, drops him, did you tell her that shit? Yeah, I kind of like unloaded. Like, that was my green light to just say, you know, everything that that had been happening that I thought was weird and that made me uncomfortable and things along those.

lines, you know, and even, hey, you know, I've seen them, you know, at the gay bar, you know, Oh my God. Carl. He, you saw him at, and so what did she say? Did she break up with him? She kind of laughed at all. I think they got into an argument and I'm sure they fucked. I don't know.

But they still remain together years after. Oh, that one was definitely probably gay and probably actually sleeping with men. I mean, I think some of them maybe, some guys, maybe they're just flirting and they just want to, maybe they haven't crossed the line yet. But that guy, come on, you saw him at the gay bar? Yeah. I mean, my old co-host, Tommy, I don't know if you heard some episodes with him, he owned a gay bar. And, you know, he would point out if you went to his gay bar, it was in the city, you know, if you go to his bar at like six o'clock or on a, you know, any weekday, he would point out to me when I was friends with him and go there. Like all the guys that were married and living in the suburb.

you know and on their way home from their work they'd stop at the bar and they lived double lives they have their boyfriends in the city or they'd be gay and they'd be like cruising guys and shit and then they go home to their families in New Jersey so yeah this is I don't know it's just crazy to me like I don't know

I'm an honest person right so I'm just like you're real think about how much energy it takes for all that nonsense you know what I mean just like if you're gonna be like if you want to fuck guys like just do it, right? Like, I don't get it, but people want to live those, like, double lives

so I think, you know, whatever. But how did you, how do you do the whole couples thing? Like, you said you also screwed couples. Like, I know you kept trying to go back to women, because you actually believed, I think you said in your email that you thought it was going to turn you straight, right, screwing women?

Yeah. You know, I slept with more women than guys, then maybe I'll be a little bit straighter. I did it, my first couple. I met them, like, on a trip. Like, another religious trip no no no no no I was

getting dealt with church okay how old were you when you're in this trip now when you started screwing couples like what how old were you on this trip I was I was in my 20s probably 25 26 years old

and and you know I was on a trip I met a guy online and we just kind of started hanging out. I didn't know at the time that he was in a relationship, you know, but I liked him. You know, after, I guess, a couple of meetings or a couple dates, he, you know, kind of came clean and was like, hey, you know, I'm in a relationship and, you know, all his good stuff. He's like, but, you know,

I'd like you to, you know, meet my partner. So I'm like, okay, you know, this is different. Right. So, you know, I met him and I was just thinking that it was. going to be like strictly platonic, but it don't ended up hanging out hanging out a lot, just even, you know, after the trip was over. And his partner was a woman

or a guy? No, his partner was a guy. Okay, go on. Like the Maverick Men? Yeah, yeah, similar. Similar. Right? But after we we were kind of dating

in a sense because they were both taking me out and we would go back home. and back to their house and fuck and you know it was just like a regular relationship and then at one point they kind of set me down and I thought they were going to tell me that it was over and it wasn't working out but they were just like hey well you know we kind of want to to date you a little bit more seriously and exclusively I was like what I understand I think that they have a name for that now like Polly Ammer I don't know there's all these weird or name.

Yeah, Polly Amherst. Poly Amherst. Yeah. I was trying to get Craigsville Phil to do this. Right. To have like an open relationship with like a couple people, right?

So did they want to move you in? Did they want to move you in? Yeah, they wanted to, but that wasn't going to fly just because I always need my exit plan. Right. I'm a very independent person. But like it was great while it lasted.

Like, you know, we would we were literally dating you know, pretty exclusive over a year. Wow. And we would take trips and, you know, have great sex. And I would speak with both of them separately. And it was just, it was pretty. Would you be together too?

Like would you do it all together too? Like the sex, would it be three of you are always separate and all together too, right? Yeah. Yeah. It would be together, separate. We may go out and see someone else's high. and bring them back and then we'd all fuck and it was just great. Oh my God.

It's like a lot of it just keeps growing and growing. Let me ask you this because I always thought like, oh, if I had two kids, like would I love them both? Like I mean, when you like, is it like kids? Like if you have two guys that you really like, like, did you like them equally just differently? Like, or did you, was there one that you liked more than the other or was the one that you were more attracted to or was it like the same for both?

They were both hot. there was definitely one I was attracted to more. Right. But he was dumb. The other one had like the brain. So I enjoyed like talking to and, you know. Right. So you had one boyfriend and two guys.

You know, intellectual conversations. Oh, that's good. So, you know, I felt like at the time, I was having trouble finding an actual relationship. So I felt why not just join a fully functional one? And that's why I ended up saying yes. Yeah. Listen, I don't even think, I mean, it's like, I think it sounds like a great experience. I mean, like, and there was no, like, were there ever any problems between you guys, like, emotionally, like this one thought you liked that one or they would fight with each other?

Like, did any kind of, like, problem come because you, like, they were having basically an open relationship? Or did it work out great all the time? No, that one worked out great or at least in front of me. If they fought, they fought, they fought when I went back to my place. Right. But when you were with them, everything was cool. Yeah, everything was good. Yeah, it's interesting.

You know, me and the Maverick men talked about that because they have a very open relationship, you know, and you see what it goes down with them, you know, and they talk about it a lot on their blog and stuff. And I give them credit for that because, and it really works. They're really in love with each other. These guys, like, that you were with, right? They were, like, in love with each other,

but they were also in love with you. Yeah, yeah, and they have been together for, for I don't know years at times it had to be you know seven or eight years which is like 50 years and in gay years or gay relationships how come

gay guys don't stare at each other because their relationships don't last oh they don't no it's like you know six months you know and on to the next and I think it's because a lot of people are too afraid to actually you know explore things

and they're too close-minded But are you that way too? Say again. Are you that way too? I mean, I think you said you were very independent before. I used to be. I used to be, but I'm not anymore. You see?

I'm very free-flowing. I don't think that I would ever be in a one-on-one relationship. No, that's what I meant. Right. So you have that thing. You're like the rest of the gay community and that six months is max and then you're on to something else. Yeah.

But you said the reason is because they're too afraid to get deep and shit. What did you just say was the reason why they don't get close? Because they're too close-minded. So is that what you're saying about yourself? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think that's why gay relationships don't last. But why don't they last? But you're saying the relationships don't last for you either.

No, before. Like at one point, I know we're kind of going out of order. But at one point, I was very monogamous, and I thought that you should only be with me and, you know, all of these things. You know, that was the younger versions of me. But then when I started getting exposed to, you know, other ways of having relationships, yeah, I started opening up my paradigm, so to speak. And I started, you know, being a little bit more free. And now I don't think that I would ever even want to go back to a strictly monotone. Anogamous situation.

Okay, but my point is this, I don't know. Stephanie, tell me if I'm wrong. I just hear you saying two different things that don't coincide. Like, maybe that's why all the other gay guys don't have relations because they think like you. Like, in one sentence, you're saying that gay relationships don't last because they're closed-minded all these reasons, and then you're saying they don't last for you because you're very open-minded.

I think the whole gay community is like you. I don't think so. No? no and the only reason I say that is because in you know conversations and when I approached people you know with you know my train of thought as far as you know I don't really believe in monogamy and things along those lines sigh away so either they don't want anything like intimate at all and it's just sex and fucking or they claim to want a monogamous relationship and they're cheating on each other yeah that just is just so you to

you just summed up every relationship for women with men. That's just how men are. It's no, right, Stephanie? Like, this is like what he said. No, I agree. Every girl is going to that same thing. Even if they don't know it, I had a woman, a friend of mine today talking about a guy that I might like and she's like, how would you

like him? He's such a player. He's a cheater. I'm like, every guy fucking cheats. I mean, like, come on. I mean, any hot guy, like, you know, I mean, listen, there are some guys that don't even hot ones, like right? But, like, it's a very small. minority. And so like I have this one friend who she was so like jaded. She's very attractive. She was

so jaded by guys that she, so late every now and then she'd have a boyfriend. But he'd be like a guy that couldn't wouldn't cheat on her because he couldn't. You know what I mean? Like it's like yeah, of course he feels safe with him. He's like has panic attacks. He can't leave the house. He has no friends and he's got zits all over his face. Like nobody would fuck him. Like yeah. Like that's what you get to be secure as a woman. Like it's like what's the alternative. I think we have to be open to the fact that maybe guys cheat. I mean, we talk about this a lot on the podcast, you know, because it drives

women crazy and we have these unrealistic expectations. And I think that the gay community is a little bit more forward thinking about it, you know, and open because so they're having these kind of, like, look at how that relationship worked for those guys. Like, they were out screwing other people, but they were in love with each other and they were together a long time.

I know I did a poll recently in like a secret Facebook group. Uh-huh. And I was shocked that how many people wouldn't even consider an open relationship. And a lot of people who I encounter,

I know people say that they're forward thinking, but I think the majority of them aren't willing to allow their partner to do stuff, but they want to do stuff on their own. Is this a gay poll that you took, or like was it open to everybody? No, it was strictly gay. Really? And most of them said no?

Because the ones that I meet in New York, they all, they all are. Well, I need to move to New York Yeah, I think you should. We don't know where you live, but you have a very southern accent. Right, you're someplace in the middle of the country. You don't have to tell. Remember, we don't know.

As far as I'm concerned, you live in Hollywood, and you're in movies. Yeah, definitely live in Hollywood. And your wife is Jada, and you met her on the school bus, and you fector in fifth grade. That's so hardcore. And we're out of it. you in your gay life on my podcast. I support it. Yeah, totally. But so you don't ever

plan on having any, like, but what, you wouldn't have an open relationship? Yeah, no, no, no. And that's the thing, I will have an open relationship. I wouldn't have a monogamous relationship at this point in my life. Right, but you would, but meaning you would have a relationship where you love a man,

like you love somebody, right? And you're committed to them in every way. And you guys, like the guys that you've been with the couples, you'd go out and screw other people together separately, all that kind of stuff, right? Yeah, definitely. What was your longest relationship with a guy? Two years.

And your longest with a girl was two years, too? Or one year? One year. The longest with a girl was one year. Stephanie's good. She listens. Did you just say one, Stephanie? Yeah.

Okay, that's what she's here for to correct me. Wait, did you, do those girls that you dated know now that you're gay? Like, does everyone know? Do they all, like, shit? Not all of them. The one that, the ones that I've dated for, the longest period of time, which is the one year, we became really close after the fact.

So she knows and we go out and every time I'm back in town, you know, we meet up and go out to eat and just kind of laugh and talk. So we've become friends, so she knows. But I don't think that I can make that many calls or even remember. Right, right. But I mean, sometimes you become friends with everyone on Facebook and then they got it, like that, you know. But, and they wouldn't care.

Like, who cares? the one girl that found out, did she say, oh, that makes sense because, like, you never really, like, did this or that? Like, did she have any clues? Did she know? Or did she, was she blown away? No, she were pretty, pretty intimate. Those videos actually really worked.

She was completely shot. You're a good study. But she didn't, she couldn't understand why we broke up. Oh, right. Do you know, I spent, I've always had a thing for unavailable guys since I'm really little. I have issues when it comes to commitment. And so my first two, the guy I lost my virginity to do is gay now and was always gay, but, you know, he was growing girls like you when he was younger. And then the second guy I was in love with is gay too.

And recently it was so weird, he found me in high school. And this was so fucked up because I was like, we went to, I was thrown out of like three high schools when I was growing up. I was very bad. So I went to like a school for people that get thrown out of school. So it was just like a bunch of dirt bags there. And me and him, I was like in love with him. like playing. Yeah, it was. It was great. We had a smoking room with music and we went bowling, I think, for gym. And we weren't allowed to take our books home and do homework because we were

the type of kids that were never going to bring them back. So they just didn't even bother. God, I need to go to their school. Yeah, you just have to be bad and don't listen to them. Then you could go. So, and so I always love this guy. And I would tell him to his face. And he never liked me. And he was always dating like this fat girl that worked at the school. She was like the cafeteria lady or something and I never understood it because he was very good looking I mean he was gorgeous and he was very straight looking he was like a model it was a very and it didn't make any sense that he was dating her I was a lot hotter than this girl this girl was like very busted and he told me so many years later when I found out that he was gay that you know he dated her instead of me because I he's like

Kathy you would have expected to me me to be like a real boyfriend to you you know what I mean and I wasn't capable of that. Like, so dating that girl, because she was so busted, she was just happy to have a boyfriend. So he really didn't have to be so physical with her, you know? And that was like, oh, I was like your girl. Like, I never understood. It made so much sense.

Like, why you didn't like me? We were best friends. And let me tell you, just like you, he fucked some guy. His first experience was his gay crisis counselor, like some gay hotline he was calling. No, and me, and this is a true story. It's very true. we had our first kiss

and our only kiss and the only thing we ever did is we made out once like I think it was like on graduation night and then he went home and he fucked his gay counselor and that was his first night

he had his first gay experience I mean can you believe and then so many years later I need to give me a gay counselor yeah well you had a you had even better when you have a gay Christian like who was it your priest you pastor

yeah I mean oh yeah I'm sorry, I think you trumped him on that story. You're a rude bastard. But he had the opposite. Recently he found me on Facebook and he wanted to talk to me on the phone for like four hours and he would ask me so many questions. And I was like, why is this guy like he's more into me than any straight guy ever met?

And then he went vicious on me and went crazy. And I think he was like doing the reverse thing. I was like, this guy needs to come out of the closet and be straight because he was like obsessed with me. And it's like you're fucking gay. Like I don't even know what your problem is. It was like really weird. Have you ever, like, do you think that there's gay guys that are really straight and they don't know it?

I don't know, but that's another podcast. How many other couples, what were we going to say? I don't, I don't, I don't, what were you going to say? I don't think that there's gay guys that's really straight. He was just so obsessed with me, like in a way. And then I made him so mad by doing nothing. And then he was like, I mean, he went, he was nuts. Everyone thought, like, it's like he was, like, obsessed with me.

It was, like, stalking me. It was really weird. And he was gay. It doesn't make any. Yeah. Maybe he just wanted to be a woman and he wanted to be me or he would, I don't know what it was. There was some shit going down. I mean, because, like, you know how you have like midlife crisis?

Yeah. I think a lot of gay guys go through that as well where they're just like, oh, I want a family. I want kids and things along those lines. So maybe he really, really, you know, wanted something serious, even though, you know, he was an able to provide you with that. Well, what about kids for you? How do you feel? Because now gay marriage is becoming legal, right? And, I mean,

I'm doing a surrogate to have a baby. Like, that's what I talked about in my last podcast, and I was trying to have a baby. And I know that a lot of gay men use a surrogate, so there are ways for gay men to have kids. Do you plan on one day having a family or anything like that? Is that in the plans for you? Or in your

future? I don't, I'm going to be perfectly honest. I really kind of don't like kids. Uh-huh. So you don't have to wear. I agree with you, Will. I think they're cool, you know, as long as their owners keep them under control. They have a dog. Right. If I get into a, you know, a serious long-term, you know, relationship, you know,

then we would have to talk about it and we would have to get someone to raise it. But it's not a desire of mine. Right. Mm-hmm. But what you said in the call really quick, because I know we've been on for a while, I still want to ask some questions, that you had multiple couples. So you've done the couple. How did you guys break up with it in that couple situation?

Did it just kind of like fizzle out or was there a big fight? Like how did that end? No, the first one that we actually talked about. Yeah. I ended up moving and leaving the country. Okay. So that kind of terminated everything. But whenever I am in the area, we still kind of fuck.

Right. So, but, you know, we weren't going to maintain, you know, an international. Right. What do you move around for work a lot, all the movies that you're doing? Yeah, for work. On location. Because, you know, I have movies all over the world. Blockbusters, really.

They're fucking blockbusters. The summer blockbusters. Shitty movies that make a lot of money. That might be breaking a law or something. What? We're breaking a law and making it too associated with the actual person. that's okay I'm sure they know we're joking

I know I know where do you so no what do you do for a living that you move around or are you just like you just move around just for like you know travel and then you just get gigs

in different places does your job take you away or do you just pick up and go yeah I'm in the military oh you are yeah do you fuck a lot of guys in the barracks yeah

is that what's the deal like inside that community What was that? Especially on deployments. Really? Right, because you're just stuck there. And let me ask you this. Do you fuck a lot of straight guys that have girls at home?

Yeah. Oh, yeah, definitely. Really? Yeah. And I feel bad for saying that because every straight girl with, you know, dating in the military guys going to be freaked out when. But, yeah, like, you know, guys. And I'm really, really outgoing.

you know just in public so if I see someone that I like then I engage right you know so it's not hard give me an example of how it crosses the line right like what is that moment where that straight guy that you know has a wife and kids or a girlfriend at home and he but he knows your gay like how does that transition to you pulling around with him alcohol like what what what What's the moment? No, typically, typically if you're in a deployed situation, like, there is alcohol, but you're not supposed to drink and it's not readily accessible. Right.

Normally it's like just a gym and we kind of build a relationship or rapport and we hang out. And I don't know, things just end up happening. Like we'll have that conversation or if we're getting too close, then, you know, I would let them know, hey, well, you know, I'm so, you know what I'm saying, because it's not really public knowledge, but I think if we're friends, I can let you know. Uh-huh. And, you know, sometimes they'll just say, hey, well, I'm curious

and, oh, really, you know, sometimes they'll storm out of the room. Like, oh, I don't fuck with this shit. And it's perfectly fine. But more times than not, people kind of just don't give a shit. And if they're interested, then they have a way of letting you know. Right. And so then you wind up Like someone winds up in somebody's

Room and then do you keep a room In somebody's room in the porta potty In the work tent The The porpoly guys are so gross The fucking poripati I mean how do you breathe How do you breathe and not breathe

And have sex at the same time? You can't breathe in a porta potty You got to time it's just right like right after they've been cleaned. So there are some girls, oh my God, poor, I feel really sorry. I wish I don't know why I chose to be a woman in this lifetime. I'm never coming back as a woman. It's like there are so many women right now at home waiting for that next Skype call with her guy.

And she doesn't know he just got out of a porty potty, he didn't fuck the guy in the ass. And you know what I mean? That's her husband. I don't forget. I have a question. Yeah. Stephanie.

Like, you're clearly not the only gay man in the military. Is this like a common meeting place, the porta-potty for other gay men hooking up with other, like, is this like a known secret spot? Right. Like, in America, it's the park, isn't it like the, like, you know, the park restrooms or, no, like the rest stops? Yeah, is that like the rest stops? Yeah, the rest stops are fun. Yeah, but is that the porta-potty, the rest-a-potty? No, I wouldn't play the porter.

That was good. The quarter parties aren't. There are like general, like, meeting spots. Brooms are always good ones. And just kind of, sometimes they have those little barriers so that if you get shot at, you kind of won't die. They'll block the mortar around. And it's like a little dark area.

So, you know, if you're trolling over there, then, you know, chances are you're, you're, you're looking for for another dude. Really? So, and everybody, that's kind of like an unspoken thing? Yeah. Yeah, on a deployment that I've had. Wow. So there's a lot of straight guys that have wives and girlfriends at home and they're on,

they, they fuck other guys when they're away. Yeah. I mean, and then you have to think about it as well. Like, you know, you have internet there for the most part. So you still get, you know, A for A and, you know, in some countries, Grindr and you know, you still have those apps as well, but like I say, I'm very forward

and if I like something, I typically go after it. But let me ask you this, are you afraid with your, like, with those, right, but like any of the guys that walked out, like, like, you know, sometimes like real macho guys, they could actually, if they're, you know,

get pissed about that and like, I mean, have you ever been beat up or like threatened? That's what I mean. Like, so you have a charming way about you that they don't get pissed. If they walk out, are they still friendly with you? I would never just, like, run up and, like, grab a dude's ass or grab a dude's dick. Right.

You know. So you're not forwarded that way. Yeah. But I'll just kind of, you know, just engage and talk to them. And, you know, chances are if someone's interested in, then they'll know, just like, in a strict situation. If someone's interested, then they'll let you know. Right.

Yeah. I mean, I love these stories because I think, you know, I've had, I've had some boyfriends where I'm like, oh, they're totally straight. But I've had some boyfriends where I'm just like, I want to put it in a gay porn and I want to put my hand on your wean the whole time and I want to see if you get hard. Like that's the task. And I'll be like, no, no, no,

no. It's like a lie detector. Like, let's see. Like, if you're totally straight, let's see. I guess especially after talking to me. No, I know. It's like, you know, I always make, I always say, like, I hear

you know, I do these calls and mostly it's guys that call and then they tell me all their little tricks or there are things that they're doing and I'm like fuck now you put that in my head so if any guy says this to me or that you know I know too much about men it's like how do you ever expect me to hook up with one that's what you give for having his podcast exactly now Kathy now we know nobody in the military you can't get anyone in the military I wouldn't say that no or you just have to you just have to assume that that's what they're doing that's the whole thing I mean it's bad enough that you think fucking women but then they're fucking men.

Do you know what I mean? It's like so it's so crazy but don't I mean, you know men are just I mean as long as they're still taking care of business as well. Yeah that's what I mean right I mean we talk about this like with open relationships I think like you know women and men

bring different things to a situation or to a relationship and a relationship is more than just sex for a woman right she's getting security she's getting companionship she's getting financial stuff from a guy so you know if the guy goes out and does whatever Is it really matter? No, but I think, you know, even with your gay guys that you say, say that they don't want, like, you know, open relationships,

I think we still just live in a world that we weren't, like, raised to believe that that's the way that things are. So it's just hard to buy into it in every sense because we just didn't grow up with it. Like, I wish that we were born and that was just the way that it was because then everyone would be fine. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. But it just not. And I think in a lot of cases, people feel like if you want to bring up. bring someone else in, they're, you know,

an accident or they're not enough, and they, you know, over-analyze and are emotional about the situation. I think, like, every relationship has now, it's, you know, very cut and dry. Like, you know, we sit down and we outline the terms and the conditions, and as long as, you know, you meet what I require and I meet what you require,

then we can continue to move as a union. But when we deviate, then, you know, we come back to the table. and see, you know, if it's time to split. And I think it's, you know, look at things from, from a rational perspective as opposed to an over-emotional state. Right. But when, okay, but you could start off being rational, right?

But eventually it becomes emotional. And that's where you have to, it's a fine line to keep that rational still involved, right? Because that's when everyone goes fucking mental, women, men, you know, because you start to get, when you open up your heart to somebody and you get, you start to, you start to get more vulnerable, right? And it gets more scary. And so that's when, you know, it's important, I think, to keep that rational thing still there, but still allow yourself to fall.

And I think that's a thing that's hard for most people. It's either one or the other, right? Some people are just totally closed off and they're all logical. Or some people are totally emotional. You know, it's hard to do both at the same time because, you know, the nature of falling for somebody is just like, you know, just fucking doing it, you know, and not really thinking, right? Yeah.

But it helps. Have you had in your relationships? Because I know that you've gone in and been the third party in a couple situation. Have you in your two-year relationship? Did you guys have an open relationship? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was open.

I mean, there were parameters. There were rules. Right. But as long as we all agree, you know, the individual can come in. And as long as none of us are disrespected, you know, you can go out and still kind of kind of, you know, do your own thing

and stay protected. You know what I'm saying? Right. So you weren't getting emotional with these other people and like the other guy wasn't getting emotional with. But you, with the couples that you were with,

you were emotional, right? They were emotional. Like, we were very intimate. Like, we would have, you know, romantic dinners. You know, we would all sleep in the bed. You know, so it wasn't just, you know, just fucking.

Like, we shared, you know, quite a bit. Right. But there's never a fear that like someone's going to leave someone for the other person? Um, not in that particular situation

in the relationship that I had was a couple that I was dating in England that was definitely the case. And, um, the other guy hated me. The what?

Oh, the, the boyfriend. The other guy hated me. Yeah. He started to resent you. That was. yeah definitely

well yeah I would think that that would happen yeah you know that's just I think that that's what's everyone's biggest fear I know that that would be my biggest fear because I have a fear of abandonment and I think everyone has it slightly you know I mean you know

so I could see that if you think that you're you know your partner is getting too emotionally attached to somebody else you know you start to see the writing on the wall and that's you know not a good thing yeah you're not in a relationship now No, I'm not.

I actually just, you know, people who... No more porter potty's for you. Yeah, no more porta-potties for me. But, you know, I have like fuck buddies and, you know, people I've got on dates with and things along those lines, but, you know, nothing, you know, serious just yet. And most of my relationships in because of just moving, moving to another country or another side of the country.

Right. That's most of your relationships. I think I missed something. Would you say most of your relationships because you move? Both are they in... Oh, that's why they end because you have to go somewhere. Are you back in the country for good now? No.

I'm back in the country for a few years and I don't know where I'm going to end up at. Oh, so the porta-potties will be back. you know, Porta Potty Porta Potty's Hot. I'm going to just said the porter potties are hot. I'm going to call this podcast.

Wait, I'm going to call this podcast. I'm going to call this podcast. Porta Potty's are hot with Will Smith. No, or Will Smith. Wait, Will Smith loves porta potty questions. That's what I'm going to name his podcast. What's up, babe? What's the port-a-potty question, Stephanie?

Are you just giving blowjobs in these porta-potties or is it full intercourse in these port-a-potties? Oh, come on. It's everything. Things are small. Oh, my God. How much sex have you had in your life? That's the whole fun. Not saying my real name.

Oh, sorry. I know. You're going to edit that out. I will. I swear to God I'm going to edit out your real name. That's the fun of doing it in a small... Oh. Holy hell.

Stephanie, that's the fun. Wait, wait till you hear the editing that I do in this. You'll never know. That's the fun of doing in a small place because then you're forced to, like, move in weird positions. Am I not right, Will? Yes. Chances too small.

Yes. I mean, and then, of course, Stephanie obviously has never had car sex. What? No, and just the fear of, you know, being called or being heard is always hot as well. Right. It's kind of like a little bit exhibitionist, like, because you're really kind of out there, but you're really not. Right.

Yeah. Yeah, that whole thing. Okay, well, listen, Will Smith, I could talk to you for like five more hours. I don't know if you've got this, but like on our call, we get people all the time calling in all the time. You know, we get repeat callers and stuff. So if you ever have any crazy triangles, if any of your, I love those stories when the gay, the straight guys are hitting on you behind their girlfriend's backs. Like, I could just hear 10 more of those. So, you know, if anything happens in the future, give us a call because, like, you're, you're so interesting.

I love these stories. This is a great call. All right, good deal. I'm going to air it this Sunday. Good do. And you'll see my editing. You're going to see my editing. I'm going to listen for it.

You're going to keep in evening. I can't wait. I can't wait. Thanks for calling in. It was awesome call. Of course. I will. You have a good one.

Take it easy. Bye. Bye. Bye. Oh my God. I loved him. He was so cool. Wasn't I don't know.

I loved him. Yeah. He was really easy to talk to. He was fun. Oh yeah. I knew that ahead of time because I actually called him because I kept switching the times. And he was like just so. funny and easy like you said easy

to talk to you straight off the bat so I knew that he had just a great personality in those stories I mean this is the real I always kind of knew that a lot of guys screw guys behind their girls backs and all this stuff but you know it's so interesting to me to hear the real stories even though I know that it exists

how about you did you know that shit existed yeah well I have friends that do that what do you mean they're a couple a male and a female and then they bring in a third party to live with them. And instead of paying rent, that third gender, it doesn't matter male or female, they sleep with that person until they got tired of them and then they move out.

Okay, so wait, so it's so that they're polyamoramor. Do they just use them for sex or do they have like emotional too? No, I think it's just for sex. Okay, so the guy will go with a guy or the girl will go with a girl? They have threesome. No, I know, but you said with women or men? Mm-hmm. So the-hmm.

They're a heterosexual couple. Oh, okay. So the guy doesn't go with the guy, but the guy will let a guy come in and fuck his wife and he watches. No, he sleeps with the guy, too. So he's not heterosexual? I'm, they're a heterosexual couple. Oh, meaning heterosexual with each other?

Whatever their liking is, they have no idea, yeah. Oh, okay. So then, so when they bring in a guy, he's with the guy, she's with the guy, or are they bringing in a girl, she's with the girl, he's with the girl. Yeah. What's their longest relationship? They had one girl for over a year. Like a slave girl?

Yeah. And who is, these are your friends? Yeah. Well, yeah. How old are they? He is 28 and she is 26. Yeah, it's funny. I was in B&H recently buying some stuff for the podcast,

And the guy was helping me for so long that we started talking And told him about my podcast And then when he started looking at some of the names of the titles He was like, oh, I'm interested in this. Me and my wife live in this lifestyle. He called it the lifestyle, you know? And then he started checking me out. I was like, oh my God, in two minutes this guy's going to ask me

to like go home and fuck him and his wife. Like he's like now probably thinks I'm into it Because he sees my podcast stuff. You know what I mean? But he was like, oh, I know this stuff. Like I'm really into the lifestyle. He's like, I've gone to munchers. Munchers are like these places where you meet other people that are interested.

So this couple, so it works for them. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. So that part of it wasn't surprising. No, it's interesting. I love the porta potty. Do you think I should name it, Will's me out? Do you think I should name it, Will Smith loves porta potty?

No. Or what about Will Smith? Will Smith gets it on in a porta potty. That should, I could like, you know, get on just Jared or Perez Hilton with that title dude everybody knows that my podcast is a joke Stephanie you need to realize

it's not serious I mean it's not a joke worried about your legal trouble no there's no legal problem anyone dude his name is will Smith do you think that there's not a million will Smith it's not it's like Joe Schmo like Will Smith you can't get any more generic than that I'm sorry to say it's not like I'm saying his name is Benetio del Toro del Toro.

What do I mean? Will Smith. Who would have thought to go into a porta potty? That's all that they have out in the, they're like in war. Oh. Horny people, Stephanie, when you're horny and you want to get it on, like you just, it's like, you know, if you have to pee, haven't you ever peed in the woods, like, or in a lake or in a, I used to pee in a bucket. I had a boyfriend

I swear to God I had a boyfriend whose parents lived upstairs and they wouldn't let me sleep over and he had no bathroom downstairs and so I couldn't go and I would stay over his house all the time and his parents didn't know so I'd pee in a bucket because that was the only place I could pee

and we would have toilet paper and then he'd go out and dump the bucket but I would pee in buckets you fuck where you have to just like you pee where you have to like if you have to do it you have to do it yes this is the way that it goes No, I think

Porta Potty's would be off my list of places I know, but you're not a guy Guys are just, you know, they're gross But you know, like he said, you have to do it when it's clean I agree. I can't, I have to breathe when I'm having sex And I can't breathe in a porta potty Because if you breathe then you have to smell

You know what I mean? Like I just can't Yeah The smell is so bad I couldn't do it either But I thought it was a great call Yeah, I liked it Yeah, he was interesting, right?

Yeah Yeah, I love it. Yeah, well, it was because I had the Maverick Man and I'm glad that I had the mom because it opened up my audience. So now I have gay people listening and then they'll call in. I just like, you know, I think it was great. Right? Hopefully this looks like a whole new genre. It was like the straight men calling in.

Same old. You're bored of it. Is that what you're trying to say? Yeah. Yeah, we need other things. Absolutely. I agree. You know what I like all.

Like, I mean, I like the repeat callers and I like everything. but I always like to hear something new. There was like, I thought Craigslist Phil was like a straight guy, but he did like really interesting things. You never know. I thought the last guy that I had on, the guy who fell off the wagon and you screwed seven people in one day in a week. Like I thought that was a great call.

And that was a straight guy. I just like different things. You know what I mean? He was just like a different thing. Yeah. And I think a lot of people to wonder about like the homosexual world. Right. but it's awkward to ask homosexual people questions.

Right. Uh-huh. Totally. So I think we asked them some questions, good questions, right? Yeah. Okay. So we'll be back next week with another co-host. Stephanie will be back again and we'll be back next week.

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