Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 045 - Dirty Prank Frank

Episode Date: October 27, 2014

From dirty prank calling, to screwing hookers, to bjs from trannies, Kathi's friend Dirty Prank Frank did it all when he was younger and high on cocaine. Though he's been pretty clean for awhile, he... calls in to explain how he "celebrated" turning 50, how it feels to be that age, why he used to secretly prank women, what it was like to be with a trannie and more. Tune in for all the details. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. Craigslist is definitely a gift like you've got to find. Real people respond. You go to stand a forward to Thailand. You can't not do it. The temptation is just too much.
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Starting point is 00:00:38 Today I have on someone that I know, and I have him on as a guest because he used to do really fucked of things when he was drunk, like double life, dirty sexual stuff when he was younger. Like, you know, seriously, like stuff that nobody knew that he was doing, but I eventually figured it out and caught him. And it was pretty fascinating that that's who he was. was. He was leaving a double life because Frank was just this dude. He was just this dude who, you know, was like a bar fly. We knew each other through this bar that we hung out in. But he was on the down low. He was doing a lot of crazy sexual things while he was drinking.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Now that he's older, I mean, he had a birthday recently, so we're going to talk about that. He doesn't do those things anymore, but he's willing to talk about it because I think they're interesting things. There's probably a lot of people that can relate to it. Or it's just like, what I'm interested in that, you know, normal people, people that you could be hanging out within a bar or people that you could be friends with because this guy has tons of friends and nobody knew that he was like living this double life when he was wasted and doing all these kind of illicit things. So we're going to talk to him about that. I will be, he hasn't given me his name yet.
Starting point is 00:01:48 I've texted him to make up a name and he hasn't gotten back to me. So I don't know who the fuck he is or what we're going to call him. But I'll be right back on with whatever his name is. I don't know. Do you have a story? lifestyle or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com, with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Strictly anonymous. Hey dude, you're on my podcast. You never sent me a name. What do you want me to call you? You just call me Frank. You want to just be Frank?
Starting point is 00:02:45 Yeah, I answered back to that. You at? I always answer to Frank. That's what people call me. Okay, nobody knows your last name. Frank is such a generic name, so nobody don't know who the hell you are. Anyway, I didn't explain what you used to do in the past with me yet because I, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:02 I just wanted to, uh, Sort of surprise everybody because it was just so interesting because I didn't know you were doing it either It was just like the big reveal at the end. I figured out you were living like a total secret life and you were doing very Dirty sexual things high on alcohol Was it alcohol or cocaine? What made you do that shit? Oh, but there's cocaine. That's what makes you very, very horny Coke? Yeah, it makes you do crazy shit. Crazy. Really?
Starting point is 00:03:30 Right, but last night, okay, so you just had a birthday. You turned the big 501. last night, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, you don't like... Very annoying. Very annoying. That's a whole other subject. No, I love that because I love when men turn 40.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I hate when people say, you know, you feel young. It doesn't matter. Oh, no, when you said... Yeah, when you said, oh, my God, I'm old, I'm like, I know you are. It sucks. Yeah. People, you know, I feel young, but that doesn't change it when I'm out. And, you know, you see, like some 23-year-olds all having fun.
Starting point is 00:04:03 If you walk older there, you're the old guy. I know. I know. The old person in the bar. That's why I don't go to bars, really. I mean, and there's a lot of people in New York that run around in bars. The bar is seen older. And I think, you know, if it's going to be acceptable and you got to be old, the old person in the bar, you want to do it in New York. But I got to tell you, it still seems lame to me. There's something so pathetic about it to me. And that means me judgmental, I guess. I don't know. But I was out with some people recently. And they're all drinking. So they don't see, you know, I'm not drinking so I'm out and you know I went to all these they were like they went to two well there are two different bars I went to and there are like bars in the city that are pretty fancy lounges where like older people hang out and I got to tell you with like no beer goggles on everybody just look like such so desperate you know there's nothing desperate about being 25 or even 32 you know nothing out in a bar acting sexy picking up some beat you know what I mean that's what you do at that age but when you're like yeah
Starting point is 00:05:04 And when we were 25, if you saw somebody like in their 40s at a 4, what would you say? If I'm that guy when I'm 40-something shooting, you know? Well, no, that's why, I mean, I was telling these people, like, for me, I never wanted to be the old lady in the bar. I never wanted to be somebody in their 40s, like a woman, like trying to be hot, like a 25-year-old is hot, trying to pick up guys. Listen, I'm single, so I still got to pick up guys. But I feel like the way I'm attractive at my age is, like, you know, over a cup of coffee having a serious conversation, as opposed to like slurring my words and like party girl you know i don't i don't think that that's hot at that age you know you got to like reinvent yourself but a lot of these poor people that i saw they just look like walking corpses
Starting point is 00:05:45 like everyone's old but they're trying to dress up and they're all like looking around and it's just like it's i don't know it's embarrassing to me i was there with a guy so i was like at least i'm like paired up but like my girlfriends wanted to go to this place recently that's like a trendy place because i went with this one guy to this place and it was like a lot of hot older wealthy men at this place. I'm like, oh, this is a good place for my girlfriend to go to pick up guys. Let's all go. And then I was like, you know what? I can't do that.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I can't dress up, you know, like a piece of me and walk to a place looking to pick up a guy. I just can't. Even though I would like to pick up a guy, I just feel like I have to do it in a different way when you're older, you know. It's like embarrassing. Yeah. Right? I don't know. I know.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I know. I agree with you. I don't know. No. It's just so natural when you're like, you know, in your 20s, you go out. You feel like a god, you know, you look good. Yeah, and there's something sexy about and hot. It's hot and okay to be like completely out of control of yourself
Starting point is 00:06:42 and pimping yourself out as like a piece of meat when you're really young because that's like, you know, that's a lot of who you are. But when you get older, whether you're man or a woman, like I feel like, you know, you're about so many other things that like a bar is just not the place to like showcase yourself and go out to meet people. I don't know. But people do it here all the time. And I feel like if you're going to be single and older,
Starting point is 00:07:02 you might as well be in the city because it was probably 10 times more depressing in the suburbs. But these people in the city, even though they look good and they're dressed nice, they're still, to me, it still looks like pathetic. Like you're the old man or the old woman in the bar, you know? It's like. I know. Very depressing, especially, you know, there's a group of young people you look over and you used to be them. Now you're the old guys.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Yeah, do you think the older people, though, they think that they're fine? I don't know. I don't know what it is, but I find it embarrassing. And I think maybe that makes me judgmental. I don't know. That's maybe because I don't like to live in the age box. This is why I had no problem telling you you are fucking old at 50 last night. You're like, oh my God, you're so honest.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And it's like because at the end of the day, this is what's going to happen to you, Frank. Because to me, 50 is the 40 for a woman. You know, 50 for a man is like 40 for a woman, right? When a woman hits 40, when a woman hits 40, yeah. It's very big. Not for yourself, but it's like in society. You know, you're old and you're like off a lot of lists. You know, a lot of people won't do it.
Starting point is 00:08:02 date you. A lot of people would never consider to marry you. You know, there's just something about turning 40 that's not great for a woman. And I feel like a man in his 40s is fine. He doesn't experience that at all. But when he turns 50, it's the same. It's weird for a guy. Yeah, and you're going to
Starting point is 00:08:18 be a senior citizen in like 10 years. At least as a woman, you turn 40 and then you got a good 20 years before you become a senior citizen. You only have 10 years to go. You become old and then you die. It lives so fast. Which I think is hilarious for a man because of women.
Starting point is 00:08:35 But this is what I'm going to tell you, Frank. That's going to happen. You know, you're going to be 50. And maybe for the first year, you're going to live in that age. And you're going to be like, oh, my God, I'm 50. So I can't do this. And I just, I don't know. That's what happened to you when I was at 40.
Starting point is 00:08:48 I started to really freak out about age. And I lived in the age box. And I was never more miserable in my life. I really, I mean, I really was miserable thinking about my age and how it affected me and thinking about what that meant. so I just eventually decided to just forget about it and never pay attention to do it and just go on with you like
Starting point is 00:09:07 because you just feel so bad to feel so bad that you're like fuck that I'm just going to pretend you know you're gonna you are young at heart you feel good that will all come back and you'll forget about the fact that you know you have some weird age that means something swear that's what I'll have yeah
Starting point is 00:09:21 plus I've been analyzing the age thing for years so I'm not like surprised by it yeah but I was because I thought I was fine at 40 I really was like 40's not affecting me. And then I cut all my hair off. I got a bob. And I was like, sleeping with a 25 year old. And I was like, holy shit, I guess 40 is affecting me. Do you know what I I mean? It was a lot worse than I even expected, even though I thought I had a good grip on it and I didn't care. I realized, you know, the way I lived my life that year and the things that I did that
Starting point is 00:09:52 it actually was bothering me. But, you know, you get over and you get past it and you move on. And then what did you do last night? Because you texted me, you know, you were out, you were drinking, and I want you to do this podcast because you used to do these really illicit things when we were younger and it was kind of like a secret life thing because I found out about it
Starting point is 00:10:09 because I busted you but like did your other friends know about this whole thing all this kind of shit that used to do when you were younger and a high on cocaine? Not really. I think some people know
Starting point is 00:10:20 but I don't know how I guess word gets out you know someone has an idea I did this or I did that but no one's really haven't said anything to me that confronted me.
Starting point is 00:10:31 They talk about it. You just have a feeling sometimes people like, like, I don't know. If the phones come on, someone will say, yeah, you know, you and phone,
Starting point is 00:10:40 it's like, I never want to know what they mean. Oh, right, because you know, you're like, you feel that shame because you kind of know,
Starting point is 00:10:47 but probably they don't know, Frank. They're just probably just saying anything, but it's your own projection. It's your own guilt. But, um, because I don't know how many other people you did this too.
Starting point is 00:10:57 But last night, though, you said that you were out, and you weren't home. So I was like, oh, did you, like, because I don't know that you, I mean, I don't know who you bang or you don't have a girlfriend, right? Like, did you fuck a whole girl last night or did you do something because you were out for your birthday and you were like really wasted? You said maybe you'll do the podcast out like 3 o'clock morning and then I never heard from you. And then when I text you this morning, right?
Starting point is 00:11:17 And I was calling you incessantly. You were someplace. You're like, I didn't sleep home. Where did you sleep last night? Well, I got home, probably like three. Right. car service that Uber car When I got home
Starting point is 00:11:33 I was all still like waxed Drinking or cocaine Did you do coke last night Somebody had some So that's just a yes or no question What do you mean? Someone had like to say yeah I did some blow
Starting point is 00:11:47 Yeah I mean it wasn't a plan thing But I just did a little bit enough How many lines? I mean what's a little bit Like a bump or like I don't know probably like three trips to the bathroom with somebody. Okay. I've done coke and learning.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Yeah. Okay. Best enough to make me get that as corn baggage. So I got home and I surfed the, was it, backstage. Oh, back page. I put ads there sometimes. That's all hookers. So you fucked a hooker last night.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I knew it. I knew that you had done something. Well, I figured you fucked somebody and I'm like maybe you just picked up a random stranger, but you screwed a hooker from Backpage last night. Yeah, it was easier, you know. You just get home, you surf a little bit. For how long?
Starting point is 00:12:30 For how long? For the right one? I was supposed to be an hour, but then I just pay that should stay there like in sleep, which only was like, you know, a few more hours. By the time everything was done, it was like on almost seven in the morning. But for an hour, how much did you pay? An hour is 200. Because a half hour was 120.
Starting point is 00:12:51 I got the whole thing for 200. And did she just like let you do anything to her? It was just, you know, she got on top, did that, you know. There's nothing like really kinky or anything, but I was kind of messed up, too. Do you make out with these people? No. No? Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And do you wear a condom? Tell the truth. No one knows who you are. I just want to know the truth. Yeah, they make you. They have it, you know? They have it, right. Anytime I've ever gotten a little bit, they always have a condom.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Okay. How many hookers have you got in your life a lot? Because we're not, what you used to do in the past was not hook or sex. It's something totally different. But what did you, what was, what, you've had hundreds of hookers? When I was younger, you know, nothing was going on like a hookup at the bar or something. Sometimes you just drive to the city and just, you know, get a blow job or something. But there was none of that internet stuff like, and so it wasn't like you'd come home and find someone.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Yeah, did she have her real pictures on? Like you look at a picture and then she's, yeah? Yeah, I noticed a lot of them said 100% real pictures. And so this girl was her real picture. Yeah. Was she hot? It's pretty hot in the old. How old?
Starting point is 00:14:08 23. She says. 23, 28. Like, what's the difference? It's just not anything close to 50. No, I know. It's that young, beautiful stuff, you know? Not 45 like me.
Starting point is 00:14:24 What? Yeah. Well, now it's like when you turn 60, you gotta pay for that. Really what I want to talk about is all the shit used to do, the sexually, the sexual deviant stuff you used to do when you were high on cocaine. So I had a dirty prank caller.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Okay, this is serious. This is like what you used to do. Like I had a dirty prank caller for many years. Okay, Frank, we knew each other for a very long time. And what the callers need to know was that me and you got it on. Like we hooked up plenty of times. I even believed, because I was into phone sex when I was younger,
Starting point is 00:14:57 that me and you used to do real phone sex with each other. So I was, this is what's so weird about it is I was available to you to do phone sex or anything that you kind of wanted, right? I mean, that's just the way I did business. And you, though, on the side secretly, unbeknownst to me, because I didn't know, okay, for many years, many, many years, I would have this dirty prank caller. And he would say this is what you would, because it's Frank, everybody, okay? you would say
Starting point is 00:15:27 what color panties are you wearing like seriously like that's what that was your in like that's what you used to say like what color panties you were like like probably like a week before you had taken off my real panties and we got it on or we had just had phone sex but yet you had this weird thing where you wanted to do it
Starting point is 00:15:44 as a stranger and that must be some sort of like that must be some sort of dangerous like you know like did you get off on that thrill of like being somebody that I didn't know and sort of crossing that line with me maybe I don't know or could it just been I don't know what do you mean you don't know I could have just I could have just called you and just been myself and just try to you know get you into doing something but I don't know why I did that you don't know why and let me ask you was I special or were there others did you do this I'm assuming you did this to a lot of people right I did when I was younger to a few people you like would you call up random strangers or were they people that you knew and you pretended you,
Starting point is 00:16:28 you know, you were like a stranger to them? A couple of people I knew, you know. I think I might have did a couple of, you know, just random. You did, oh, you would just make up numbers and calls. And now nobody ever engaged you, right? Like, I mean, you would just get hung up on constantly, right? Hung up on. But, you know, it's like, you know, sometimes people come close,
Starting point is 00:16:50 but it's almost like I think everybody's scared. It might be someone they know, so they don't want to let themselves go because then that person are like be like, hey, I guess I got so-and-so to do this, you know what I mean? Not really. I would say no, you're living in Fantasyland and most people are not interested.
Starting point is 00:17:07 I mean, what are the odds that, you know, I don't know, like I don't think, but maybe maybe there's your, you know, you connected every now and then with somebody that was like in that weird place too, but I don't think so. I think that that's your own projection, but most of the time, you know, someone calls up
Starting point is 00:17:22 and says, what color of panties are you wearing? You just You just hang up. It's like the dumbest thing you've ever heard. I don't even know. It's not even hot, you know. And then what happened was, this was so fucked up about you is you, I knew you for years and I would get these dirty prank calls and it wasn't like incessant. It wasn't all the time.
Starting point is 00:17:40 I would say you did it about three times a year. You know what I mean? But it was constant. And it was like this same dirty prank caller. I didn't really know that it was the same person, but I just remember knowing that I had, you know, what I remember is that I had this collar for a long time. time or I was, you know, harassed like that. And then I moved into the city and you married.
Starting point is 00:17:59 You got married to one of your, it was like a really good friend. I remember being really happy for you because you were single and out of your mind for a very long time. And you finally had like this great relationship and you married like your really good friend. And I remember being happy for you. I think I sent you a present. I don't know what happened. But like I was a part of that.
Starting point is 00:18:18 We were still great friends. And I swear to you, I'm not lying. Frank. I don't know if you remember it like this, but this is the truth because I have a great memory is the week after your wedding, I got a phone call. My dirty prank caller called me and said, what color panties are you wearing? Just like always. But for some reason, that time, it's something clicked in me that I know this voice. And then I think I kept you talking. And then I had this inclination that I thought maybe it was you. And I said, if you want to know what color
Starting point is 00:18:48 my panties are, if you want me to tell you, tell me your wife's name. That's what I said to you. and you were so fucking dumb that you said your wife's name. Like, seriously. It's all coming back to me now. It's crazy. Really? Yeah. That's what you said.
Starting point is 00:19:01 And you told me her name. It wasn't even that hard. It's like, are you kidding me? And you know what it is? This is what I think. Because I go on to Craigslist and I'm always trying to get these guys to call in. And a lot of times I get these guys that are jerking off and they want to call me right now.
Starting point is 00:19:13 And I know that they're like dirty prank caller people, you know? And I always lose them. And I always think like, shit, you know, I got to get them when they're in that zone. because it's almost like a drunk place to be. You know what I mean? You're literally like not even in control of who you are. It's like you're wasted, right? That high you get from being horny, right?
Starting point is 00:19:31 Especially if you're like checked out and you're in like some sort of like really crazy place where you're doing something like this where you're keeping it private, you know? So you're not like even thinking rationally. You're like a what you're like wasted on your fucking hard on that I, it's so easy that I ask you your wife's name and you tell me like that's the dumbest thing to do. It's like it doesn't make sense. but it does because you're in an altered state, right, of like psychosis. Yeah. Right? You know, that happens a lot of times.
Starting point is 00:19:59 You get to like a state where that's all that's on your mind, no matter what you're doing, can't snap out of it until you're done, you know? Yeah, I think people call it an addiction or sexual addiction because you need, you're so horny for it. Like, you know, that drive to get what you want and that horny feeling, it just, it just propels you forward to do anything that you will literally, people wind up in jail, People wind up crossing a lot of lines and doing a lot of crazy thing for it because you don't have control of it. I understand that because I didn't have control of like how much I drank, you know?
Starting point is 00:20:29 So it's the same thing, you know? You literally become like not yourself. So I asked you what your wife's name was and you told me. And so now I know it's you. So now we're having a regular conversation and me being the, I don't know if I'm a loser for this or not. But like my first inclination is to help people, okay? And I say, okay, Frank, listen, this is what you need to do, okay? Like, if you're into this, you just got married.
Starting point is 00:20:56 I felt for you. I'm like, you're going to ruin your marriage. You know what I mean? Like, you just got married. I swear it was a week after your wedding, Frank, and you're doing this shit. Like, that's not going to last. And I was like, Frank, you need to call your wife because she was a bartender. You married a bartender.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Okay? And I was like, you need to just tell her that you're into this. I gave you, like, advice. Like, you need to tell her that you're into this. And, like, you need to tell her every now and then, babe, I need to call you up and be like a dirty print caller. and I'm going to call you at work. I'm going to call you in your drive.
Starting point is 00:21:21 And I'm going to do this to you and you just get into it. But I guess for people when you're in that zone, like you don't want it to be a fantasy. Like you have to do it for real or else it's not like gratifying. I don't know because I don't know why you wouldn't have done that with your wife, you know? And I don't know what you said to that. But what I know happened after that that made me really, really angry at you. And I never talked to you again for like, this is a really long time.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Is that you kept calling me. And now you were calling me incessantly. Because like the cat was out of the bag and you wouldn't even hide your voice. You'd be like, hey, you'd be like, hey, what color panties are you wearing? Like, ask Frank. You leave it on my, this is back in the day where there was answering machines. Half my listeners probably don't even know what that is. But, you know, you would leave it on my answering machine from my roommates to hear.
Starting point is 00:22:08 And you do like, what color panties are? And you were harassing me. You literally started harassing me with your own voice. And I had to say to you one day, like, listen, if you don't stop calling me, I'm going to either call the cops or I'm going to call your wife. And I didn't want to do neither one of those things. I don't like to be a fucking snitch, you know, but I just wanted you to stop. I was dating a guy at that time.
Starting point is 00:22:27 And you did stop. You actually did. And your relationship went to the shitter after that. And I think after that, like you tried to be a friend to me or get me to be friends with you again every now and then for like the next 10 years. But I wouldn't take you back as a friend. Because like I have to say, when I found out that it was you, dude, it is so crazy. to find out like, you know, something like that, that there was like somebody that, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:53 it's like finding out your friends like a serial killer, like serious. It was like literally finding out you have a whole secret life. And I remember I worked in a hair salon, and now you got a cop to this too, because you're coping to fucking hookers. You're copying to be a crazy dirty prank caller. And you're going to cop to screwing a tranny soon
Starting point is 00:23:09 because I know that you did that too. We're going to bring that up. Okay. But before that, I was working in a salon. Okay, and this is where I think I picked up on your little sexual deviance, um, is I was working in a salon and there was this guy that was flashing people, okay? And they did a composite of him once in the paper.
Starting point is 00:23:32 And I'm like, oh my God, that looks exactly like Frank. And I remember, because this is what a, how I am, I called you up and I said, hey, Frank, listen, I know you're like the stalker in the back jerking off. I need you to know that they're like on it. They got you. Like there's a composite of you. Like you're going to get busted. Like stop doing it.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Like I was like, I was looking out for you. Yes, it was. No, it wasn't. That's not my thing. You swear to God, it looked exactly like you. And why did I think that that was you? Because I knew on some level you were doing something. Like, seriously.
Starting point is 00:24:01 I was like, and I was trying to save you. That I could never do. Like, I still have my, like, a little thing in my mind that knows. That's like serious, you know, that's jail stuff. Okay, so, but let me ask you this, because there was rumors that you used to send dildos and vibrates. and put them in girls mail boxes. Did you do that?
Starting point is 00:24:23 Tell the truth. Oh, wait a minute, though. That wasn't a sexual thing. It's coming back. I don't know who we did that, too. I know who you did that too. I don't want to name the name, but it was like a friend of it.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Like it was that girl, the crazy girl that's friends with a friend. You know who. You screwed her. She's insane. Donna. I'm making up her name. Yeah, but I'm trying.
Starting point is 00:24:47 of things who we did it to and why it wasn't a sexual affair i think it was to just just to do it okay so all right so it was a boss okay anyway it was a bunch of us that did it oh okay so it wasn't a part of your secret life so really no this was like a few people that's i would have never thought of that but i remember doing that with someone a couple of people i forget what we got it i think we had the bar and someone had it okay and someone might just put it on so-and-so's car or in a mailbox Okay, so that was just a dumb prank. Okay, so as far as like, as far as the sexual stuff that you would do when you were high on Coke, like was just the hookers and the dirty prank calling, was that the extent of it or was there anything else?
Starting point is 00:25:33 Come clean because it's so interesting. What? Just do it. It's okay. It's okay. I can edit out the dead air. I know a guy that, uh, you know, you. He was a total straight guy.
Starting point is 00:25:48 He shrank a little bit, and his wife left him, and then he discovered cocaine, and he started going crazy with it. And he would get warning. He got looking. And then one day in the middle of the afternoon, he was standing in front of this big picture window. People were, like kids were playing on the block, papers around. And he just totally naked and sort of whacking off.
Starting point is 00:26:11 He's crazy. We read it in the paper. And you knew who he was? You knew who he was? Yeah, we knew. No matter of fact A friend of mine was the first one
Starting point is 00:26:20 To give him for a And then he went on a crazy chair He loved it He told him Don't mention that name So started with the divorce Then he became an alcoholic And he said it was okay
Starting point is 00:26:30 And then he had to sell his house Because of embarrassed him Oh my God That is First of all Some guys like It's like they get divorced And they're just never the same again
Starting point is 00:26:39 I dated a guy once And he was like a really good friend of mine For many years And then he got married And I was always in love with him And then he got married And then he got divorced and then he came back to date me and oh my god it was like someone it was like his ex-wife had chopped his dick off He was like bitter. He had low self-esteem
Starting point is 00:26:57 He was like such a weirdo with a capital W and I was like oh Diverses it and you know unfortunately at my age I have to date people like that you know because most men are like single and available They're like a divorced or separated and They all a lot of baggage a lot of bitter baggage a lot of bitter Yeah a lot of people with baggage out there Yeah, but I think, but I love it if the guy's baggage is like in front of the window jerking off to the kids. Oh, it's so funny, man. We read that.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Oh, God. I felt bad for the guy, but I understood how your mind gets there, but I don't think I could have a goal that far. Like, it makes no sense. You're going to get arrested, you know? Did you ever, did anyone ever catch you besides me with the dirty prank calling? No, I think some people might have got wind of it. I don't know how. But, you know, sometimes, like, if crank calls get mentioned or something,
Starting point is 00:27:52 everyone always says, like, me and phones, you know, I don't know what they mean by it. I mean, we could do a lot of crank phone calls, but it just seems like a lot of people heard little stories, but no one knows that it's true or not. Yeah, but I'm telling you, I didn't know until I knew. I mean, all those years, I didn't know until I knew, and I caught you with them. Yeah, but you have to mention it to someone that we both knew or something. Oh, please, of course. course of course and that person probably tells someone else oh oh yeah yeah i told our mutual friend
Starting point is 00:28:24 and then she told her husband and then he's friends with you and all your and then so everyone knows yeah so you're just yeah you know there's always an underlying thing but a lot of people are cool about it they don't say not or they understand they never speak be different you know no one cares you know everybody's got their thing that's exactly and that's what happened frank because after that I was so mad at you because you wouldn't stop calling. I finally threatened you and you really left me alone. And then you tried to be my friend for many years. And I was like, no effing way.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Like I would not. I was very, and a lot of times I'm a very forgiving person, almost too much. So, you know, I'm just friends with everybody, you know. You get me in the right mood. I'll just forget about anything you did to me. But with you, I was very surprised you were that mad for that long. What? I was very surprised that you held a grudge that long.
Starting point is 00:29:12 I held a grudge on you for so long. You even sent me a really nice email on Craigslist. I'm not Craigslist on Facebook when it first came out. And you sort of like apologize. I ignored it for two years. And you know what happened, which was really weird? And what reminded me is you just said, like people know, but they just like don't say anything or whatever. And you're like, you know, people I guess they just understand.
Starting point is 00:29:37 What happened was I think with me is once I quit drinking and I change as a person and I really understood a addiction and what it does to you and everything and, you know, and understood about myself and other people. I think what happened was I was looking through my, I think I just felt differently about you because what happened was I was looking through my Facebook messages, looking for something else, and I came across yours. And this was so many years, like you said, later, two years later. And I must have just been a different person because I reread your email to me. And I just really actually thought it was like really great. And I totally understood. And I was like, why am I holding a grudge on this person? Like, I understand. Like, he was fucked up. He
Starting point is 00:30:15 was doing things. So I reached out to you and we talked and like you're like, I don't do that shit anymore. And at least you came clean and you could admit it. And you know, I do this podcast now because I, I see people and I believe that so many people have a lot of things. I mean, some people don't. Like a lot of, you know, I think 20% of the people in this population are kind of normal, you know, and by normal I mean they had good childhood, you know, and they're kind of like really healthy and they don't have any, not as much shit to work out. But a lot of other people have a lot of weird shit going on that, you know, nobody sort of lets anybody know about. But I see it in people.
Starting point is 00:30:48 And because I'm not judgmental, so many people tell me that side of themselves in regular life. That's why I do my podcast and I get people to call up and do, you know, sort of reveal even more. And I like it because it's like, this is what people, this is what a lot of people do. Look, you're like a normal guy. People know you. People sit in a next to you in a bar and they drink a beer and they talk to you. And, you know, they don't know that you were like a secret dirty prank caller, weirdo.
Starting point is 00:31:08 I know, I always think of that That's why, like, I try not to judge, you know, if someone famous, they have a tape recording of a phone conversation, you know, everyone, like, kills the guy the way he's acting on the phone. I mean, the people have conversations that V-K's on the phone. I know.
Starting point is 00:31:25 I know. There was like, yeah. Everybody's got a side to, you know? Yeah, there was a great quote. I wish I remembered it because there was somebody famous said, you know, everybody has a part of themselves or side of themselves were, something that they do that is like the worst part of them,
Starting point is 00:31:41 like something that triggers the worst, most horrific side of them. And we all have it. For me, it's customer service people, okay? I, and I work on this in my life because I, it really is a flaw in me, and I could literally be on the phone with somebody that's not helping me properly, and I could just literally cheat them like they're not even a human being. And it is a really disgusting side of me if you were to be in my house, You saw how I would talk to them, or it was taped and I was famous and it went out.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Like, I mean, they would put me in jail. And, but I think everybody has that. You know what I mean? Everyone has it. And I think a lot of times what people are afraid of is that if people knew that side of them, people wouldn't accept them. And if everybody was more able to just cop to their shit, you know, and understand you have stuff, other people have stuff, and everybody would be, like, more accepting
Starting point is 00:32:33 of people. And then people would be able to be more honest, you know? Because so many people are just such fucking liars, you know, And then they attract liars and everyone's lying and everyone's so afraid of the truth. And why don't you just beat yourself? I know. You know? They hear somebody do stuff that they've done in their lives and they first buy them.
Starting point is 00:32:49 You know, but they know like they've actually been there. Of course. They won't admit it. You know what I mean? And they just don't. And it's so gross, you know? And, but I'm not like that. And I think like I, but listen, I have been like that because if I think about it,
Starting point is 00:33:03 I judged you for so many years. I was so like I would not even like listen to. your story. And I think that a lot of times out of context, things, you could just look at something on the surface and be like, he dirty prank called me, he's a pig, and that's the end of the story. You know what I mean? But no, that's not the end of the story. You're a person. You have this thing where when you do cocaine, you know, there's more to it than that. I know, right? It's true, though. Yeah, totally. I came. Like I said, I changed and grew as a person and became less judgmental myself because obviously I was judgmental too, because why
Starting point is 00:33:38 I didn't I forgive you for so many years. I mean, it was right for me to get mad at you, okay, because it was fucked up, and it wasn't healthy for your relationship. And it was, to me, it bordered on criminal behavior, okay? Because, like, you're not supposed to call people up as a stranger. It's like, you know, but you kick that because you kicked the cocaine. And even though you did blow last night, how did you fuck a tranny, though? Like, can we talk about the tranny thing? Because you told me this great story.
Starting point is 00:34:03 I didn't, I didn't screw one. I know. You all get blow jobs from them. No. That's what I did, but it was weird. I was living in... Don't say the name of where you were living. I was living in a town, and probably like 2003 or so, maybe, 2002.
Starting point is 00:34:24 And I went online somewhere. I don't know how I met him, because I don't think there was a friend's list running from back then. But it happened to be like it. It happened to me. She happened to be, like, three blocks. from where I live. How did you know? Because I was, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:44 texting. Oh, okay. You know? And then it was so tempting, you know. It was late, you know. Wait, wait. I need to ask you a question before.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Did you know she was a tranny or did she just look like a hot bitch on Craigslist or wherever? It looked like a hot bitch at first. And then I caught on. And at that point, I didn't care. Okay. I just figured just don't look down, you know.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Right, but let me ask you this and be honest. Did the fact that she was a tranny, like, kind of add to the hotness of it all? Because it was something, like, really sort of naughty and dirty. It made a little dirtier. Kind of, I guess, you know. It's just like, you know, she looks really hot, you know. Right. But I did just say it's all over there, you know.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I don't want no parts of what, you know, down below. Uh-huh. You know, I said she's probably going to be good because she probably knows what guys like. Right. And she was. She's very sexy. She was dressed really hot.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Uh-huh. And, you know, I went there and she gave me a really good ball job. It was crazy. I know. Do you still talk to her? I want her to call my show. No, I don't know where the hell she is. She probably screws so many straight guys.
Starting point is 00:36:05 You know what I mean? Like, that's all she probably gets is, like, a lot of straight guys. I think like a friend of mine ended up Like we were talking about it one night And he ended up going there But it's not like I told him about it He just ended up there one night Yes, that's what you told me
Starting point is 00:36:24 This was so weird So me and Frank wind up poking up We become friends again And then when I was actually doing my podcast I wanted you Frank to be one of my co-host Because you got a really good voice It's hard to hear you on the cell phone connection But you have a really good voice
Starting point is 00:36:35 And you're one of those like blah blah blah Like you have a lot of opinions about a lot of things But more so about politics and sports and that stuff and that's the stuff I don't really talk about but you're really into that kind of stuff and you're really smart and you like to debate and I thought oh frank would be great you know on my podcast I wanted you to be a co-host then we just started talking a lot and uh I was telling you about because I just noticed when I got on my show that a lot of people sort of started copping to this whole tranny experience and then the more people I would tell the more of my straight
Starting point is 00:37:04 guy friends would admit to me that oh yeah they did too and then I told you and you're like oh I did and then you're like and then you you wound up your friend admitted that he did too and you guys both screwed the same tranny wasn't he your roommate uh no but we were very close okay so kind of right
Starting point is 00:37:22 and you both admitted to each other so within the guy community like you could admit to another guy I think it is with guys it's like you know what are the trannies are all about sex you know it's like it just seems like easier with them like that's the only
Starting point is 00:37:39 thing they're there for it the artist we feel, you know? Uh-huh. Like, you know, what are they there for? They're not going into modeling, you know? It's just like, they just seem like when you see them, they just represent sex stuff, I think, guys. That's why we kind of, like, tend to go there.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Okay, and what do other women? What does a regular hooker offer you? Sex without a cock? I mean, like, what's the difference? Yeah, it's the same, I guess, but it's just weird. When we see the tranny, we think they're, like, into it, I guess. Because they have, like, the guy. Because they have the guy mind, do you think?
Starting point is 00:38:13 Like, it's not like a girl. Yeah, we just figure that, you know, look, if you're going to turn into a, you know, you're a guy who turns into a woman, we just figure that, you know, sex is on your mind all the time. Like, it's all that extreme. But it's, you know, I'm sure that's not the reason, but to us, that's what we see. That's what you think? Or you just see, like, the hottest bet.
Starting point is 00:38:31 You know, a buddy, being a buddy of mine went to the city one night, and we went to a tranny bar. Uh-huh. And they were tons of them in there, you know? Uh-huh. And you know what I noticed? that they're just like regular girls. Like the ugly ones,
Starting point is 00:38:45 the ones that, like, you didn't want to even see us, were coming up to you all night, trying to talk to you. And then the hot ones that you went to, they didn't want nothing to do. You were getting blown off by the hot trannies. It was the same thing. They were stuck up.
Starting point is 00:38:59 It's like trying to get the hot-looking dick in the bar. You've got to deal with the attitude. You've got to move. You're good enough. Very humorous. We had a ball that night. Oh, my God. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:39:08 But did you get blown by tranny that night? No, we just went out for a night. We just had a ball. We went to, like, in the city. And I didn't know where they were. He knew where they were. And a lot of them were all gone, but we went to that one. It was still there.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Oh, my God. That's so funny. So even though they were dudes, they were, like, acting like girls. Because you know what happened? Like, girls have, there's a sense of power that women have over men, right? And I think that they, we use it without even realizing it by playing those kind of games. And I think we all, it was not even something conscious. As weird as it was, it seemed normal.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Like, you would see guys, like, you would see something that had a boyfriend. Like, you know, they'd be hanging out like a couple, but one's a friend and one's like a regular guy. Yeah, they'd leave, holding hands. It was very, it was so weird, but yet, like, it looked normal. If you didn't analyze where you were or know where you were, you might not even know.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Right, exactly. You'd think you're in a regular straight bar. You know, definitely occasional ones that look like they got a bad job. It should tell them. for the most I thought far, you know, you can't tell. Right, no, and you can't tell. And no one could tell if they saw you at a bar that you were like a former dirty prank caller, like, for real.
Starting point is 00:40:20 And that's all you were. You weren't the guy jerking off in the bushes at my job. Now we know. You only got a blow job from a tranny once. You screwed a lot of hookers. And you did this all with cocaine. Let me ask you, when did your career as a dirty prank caller stop? Like, because I know sometimes when you have an addiction
Starting point is 00:40:36 or you're into something, like, it's so hard. hard to stop it. How did you stop it? I think after you, you know, is the blow start is fading. Right. Well, was it after your divorce? You might have been the last. I was your bottom. That's what they call it. You need it. You have to have a bottom. You have to, like, bottom out. Was your bottom, though,
Starting point is 00:40:58 your divorce from your wife, maybe? No, that was fine. We just drifted apart, you know? How long were you married her for? We were just friends. I was bored, I think. That's why you got married or you were bored? That's why you got divorced. Yeah, I thought like, you know, I'll be the one to get married now, you know.
Starting point is 00:41:17 I could do this. And then I realized I was hell of my building. Plus, I was still living at home when I started dating her. And I kind of moved in with her. And I think I got, I think I got, like, moving out and finally, like, being out of my parents' house. Uh-huh. Like, mixed up with it being her. Because once she left and then I was in the apartment.
Starting point is 00:41:38 by myself, like after two weeks, I noticed. I said, this is great. I think this is what I want. It's like my own place. You know, she just happened to be in there, and I thought the way I was feeling was her, but I think it was just being out of my own. That's smart, right. So it wasn't even devastating the breakup. It wasn't even devastating the breakup, is what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Like, were you ever really in love with her? I don't think so. No? I think sometimes we rewrite stories. So I wonder if at that time, you know, I think sometimes we go back. I know I do it. We all do it. We go back and we sort of remember things differently.
Starting point is 00:42:14 I think at the moment we might talk ourselves into thinking something love, when you look back on it, you say it really close. Right, but you did. I mean, was it a traumatic ending, or you both were like, okay, like, let's leave him. You make it sound like you were friends. You got married. I think I was a little bit more like hurt my prize, you know?
Starting point is 00:42:34 At first I was a little annoyed. But then once he was gone for two weeks, I remember it was like two weeks. I went out with a bunch of friends. It was my birthday. So we went to this place, and I remember I took extracuse. And I ran into two girls I knew from high school, and we had a fall. We hung out all night.
Starting point is 00:42:54 I mean, nothing happened to the pictures. I had a fall. And I remember getting home, and to some reason, I had forgotten my teeth. So I had a crawl in the window. The window wasn't locked. If I crawled in windows, I'm crawling in. I noticed my ex-wife had come during when I was out and took the TV
Starting point is 00:43:13 because I remember I didn't want her to take the TV And as I'm going into the window I'm going shit the TV's gone Fucking bitch And when I looked around I said This is a great night I said you know I'm really going to enjoy being single When I all the barc
Starting point is 00:43:27 That's when it hits me I really didn't care about it Right you were like more into the drama Of like you know Just being a single life like crawling in doing ecstasy, shit stolen from your house. Like that's like, yeah, so we're having a ball. That whole rush of like. Two girls from high school that still looked good.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Right. You had a great night. One of them gave me their numbers. So everything was like, yeah, I'm on top of the world. So I'm only like in my early 30s. Right. But let me ask you this. Like did that all like sort of giving that all like, I mean, did that sustain you forever?
Starting point is 00:44:01 I mean, you've been single ever since, right? You've never got married again. Have you had any long-term. girlfriend since her? No. Not for me. It's not for you? Yeah, the whole marriage relationship.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I kind of like being able to do what I want, you know? I want to have to like Friday night. We have to let's go out, you know. We've got to go to dinner. But don't you think... Okay, but let me ask you this. Like, don't you think that if you actually really like... Because I don't think that people, or I know, okay,
Starting point is 00:44:31 if I'm going out with a guy on a Friday night for dinner, It's not because I have to. It's because I want to. Like that's what happens when you like somebody. Like you want to actually be with them. It's not like you're forcing yourself to be with them. It's like you're like excited to see. Yeah, but it becomes a routine.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Like a lot of times I just like to come home and play if I eat it. A lot of weekends I'll do not enough on a couch, but sometimes, you know. Uh-huh. And you don't think that if you could meet and you don't think that if you met like the right person that like that person would accept that? they always say they can but they never can
Starting point is 00:45:06 so you're the big 5-0 and you don't have any relationship so when you want to get laid do you have like a booty call or do you just screw hookers what do you do? I have some booty calls but I really don't anymore right now because it's like you know
Starting point is 00:45:20 as time goes on they end up having a boyfriend and some even get married again you know it's weird they all eventually leave you they use you for their time of like nothingness and then they...
Starting point is 00:45:31 Yeah then you know they find the serious thing, then they're on. They move on because I won't, you know, hop to the relationship. Now I'm just honest. Right. Like, if I need something, I tell them, I'm not into this.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Like, if you're looking to something, serious, you know, we're at that age now, you don't want to be alone. When you're older, I said, I'm fine with being alone. I'm not looking for something. And they always say that's fine, because in their mind, they think I'll change them. Right. And then a lot of them, when they don't change me, it goes bad.
Starting point is 00:46:01 I was with this one Colombian girl. was gorgeous. It was a little bit chubby, but the kind of chubby where a lot of guys like today. Of course, of course. He was beautiful. Uh-huh. And I told her that, and she was like, fine. And all of a sudden, about a month, maybe a little over a month, we're out.
Starting point is 00:46:21 You know, we went out to eat. We met up with a bunch of people. And we went to another place. And all of a sudden, we're out of place where she, her boyfriend used to hang out with. But now I hear her like mumbling to herself. And then she starts talking to the barcender really loud about her old boyfriend. You know, oh, you happen to call me today. So now I know she's trying to get jealous.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Uh-huh. You know, but I just said like, all right, what's the problem? And she's like, well, what are we? Are we just friends or what? She's really pissed. I said, where's this coming from? I told you about the relationship thing. You said you were fine with it.
Starting point is 00:46:58 She said, whatever. But then she starts talking about a boyfriend again, And I said, listen, I got to tell you something. I'm like, I must have been in my early 40s. I'm like 40-something years old. I felt with the best that making me jealous. I said nothing makes me jealous anymore. The whole thing talking about your boyfriend's not working.
Starting point is 00:47:18 With that, I turn around, and she's freaking well the glass at. Oh, I like those Spanish girls are so fiery. I might see her and went across the bar. It was late. There wasn't too many people in there, so it didn't hit anyone. I just blew up. I couldn't believe it. She went crazy.
Starting point is 00:47:38 And she left on her own. And I said, you shouldn't drive. You've been drinking. Let me drive us home. And I'll go, I'll walk home from here. She hurts me out and left. Then she pranked me at 3 in the morning and didn't say anything. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Their number came up on my phone. I just got to say, you there. You're home safe. But I just worried. I didn't want nothing to happen. Right, right. And then did she leave you alone? And she left me alone.
Starting point is 00:48:05 And that was that. That was that. She got pissed. They all get upset. Yeah, girls aren't wired that way. And if they are, there's something wrong with them. No, they're not weird. That's normal.
Starting point is 00:48:16 You're weird. It's more weird to be able to. But I don't think it's weird. No, no, no. I don't think it's weird. I just think it's people are different places at different times. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Yeah. It's called that your thing that you don't want to, like, get involved. You know, you don't mind. going out once in a blue moon and pulling around like a good time like two 20 year olds then I'm fine
Starting point is 00:48:37 but I'm not looking for this they always think that yeah yeah yeah whatever you know like one girl was doing it with me like once or twice a month we'd meet and then we'd leave the bar
Starting point is 00:48:48 and we'd come to my house and then you know she started like complaining to like some of her girlfriend but I knew that I'm like you're using her I'm not using anyone I told you
Starting point is 00:48:58 you know this is great what we're doing I'm not promul. I mean, using you is if I'm promising you something and then I'm not delivering. Right. You just want the positives, the little positives of a relationship and none of the negatives. There's plenty of people that are like you.
Starting point is 00:49:11 It's called being emotionally unavailable. And what happens is women try to be emotionally. Sometimes there are, listen, there are plenty of emotionally unavailable women that could do business. And a lot of times, if anyone's doing that with you for a long period of time, they're unavailable too
Starting point is 00:49:26 or else they wouldn't be sticking around. But a lot of girls in the beginning before you were honest, maybe they would think that, you know, they could change you, whatever. But a month, two months into it, if nothing's changed, you know, two months, three months into it, it's nothing changing.
Starting point is 00:49:38 You know, any normal girl is going to be like, see you later. Somebody that's like a little bit emotionally unavailable, too, is going to play that game. They still might get mad and they go crazy. But at that point, you got to be like, hey, babe, like, you're probably unavailable too or else you wouldn't be, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:51 sort of buying into this, you know? I've been both. I've been very unavailable in my life, and I'm more available now than I ever have been. and I have to say I just would never sign up for that. I just, I want to be able to be with someone that I could actually like. I think there's something so hot about that. I think it takes balls to fall totally in love with somebody.
Starting point is 00:50:11 And like when you say, oh, that thrill of like climbing in the window and see, you know, that kind of drama. It's like to me, that's like you get that same kind of rush of like really taking a risk and falling for somebody and really going crazy for someone and starting a relationship. You know, and listen, I know it gets hard and crazy after and routine eventually. And then that's, you know, when it becomes hard work. But I have to say all my casual relationships and my open relationships, those become work, too. You can't get nothing for something.
Starting point is 00:50:38 You can't get anything for free. I mean, there's just always consequences, you know? And it's all difficult. And my relationships with people that were unavailable when I was unavailable, it was so fucking exhausting. That now it's just like I'm not, I'm not into that at all. Like I said, I'm more available, more open. And I think somebody, like a man who's capable of that. wants that as like a lover, not like a close-off person, like a lot of men, is like so hot,
Starting point is 00:51:03 you know, and so much more attractive. Well, another good thing I have on my side is I get older and I don't do drugs, like, between getting older and lack of drugs, sex doesn't take over my life as much. Uh-huh. So no one can, like, control me with that. It used to be like I'll say anything because I want sex again. Then I'll have some sex and not going to blow you all. And then when I get that urge again, I'll start fronizing.
Starting point is 00:51:28 as being everything, but that doesn't happen anymore. It doesn't take over my life anymore. Between my natural sex, so I'm not being as crazy as it was and the lack of drugs, I don't want to more normal, so I won't do anything just to get it. That's hurtful to people, too. You know, you start saying anything. When you're young, you don't care.
Starting point is 00:51:48 I wish you try to have a relationship again in your life at some point. I know that you say you don't and you're content, but I think that... I don't rule it out. I don't rule anything out. Anything can happen, you know. I don't want to say no to anything, but if it doesn't happen, I'm fine with it. Right, right. Now I got a million channels.
Starting point is 00:52:06 I got basketball season starting. I got delivery guys on feed dial. What do you mean delivery guys? Drugs or food? No, food guys. You have changed. They got here in eight minutes the other time. Don't, no names.
Starting point is 00:52:25 They got here in eight minutes. No names. No names. We can't say where we're from. I don't want anyone to know where we're from. No names of towns or shit. Oh, yeah, that's right. So you have your food being delivered.
Starting point is 00:52:37 You have everything. Okay. Well, Frank wants me to give him a man makeover, right? You requested a man makeover from me last night when you turn 50. Maybe you're having a midlife crisis. When I come to town next time to visit my parents and my family, me and you will go shopping. I'll make you over. All right.
Starting point is 00:52:54 We could do before and after pictures. No face shots. but we'll do before and after body shots, right? I want to get those expensive, like, over a hundred dollar jeans. Oh, yeah, like $200 and something, jeans, but I'll get them for you. I'm frugal. I'm a good shopper.
Starting point is 00:53:08 We'll go to, like, a place. I'll get you. I'll hook you up. You know, you've got to spend some cash, but if you do a chunk of it, I'll get you the basics, and you look good for 50, you know, because just... Yeah. I just went to Century 21.
Starting point is 00:53:21 That's a cool store. Yeah, totally. You could go there and get great things. Like, jeans, it doesn't matter if they're from last year. As long as they're not from like 10 years ago, you're fine. But you need to wear, I think it's very important for guys to wear good jeans. Most guys in the city do, but I feel like in the suburbs and places around, they really don't. They're still stuck in some other time period.
Starting point is 00:53:40 I don't know. You need to be wearing like really good jeans. And, you know, you could find them and like you don't need, listen, you can wear jeans a million times, you know. You don't need like 50 pairs of jeans. If you have a good, you know, five pairs, you're good to go. That's it. So we'll do a man makeover. And then I'm going to show, I think I'm going to do pictures because.
Starting point is 00:53:57 I'm really good at man makeovers. I've done them in the past for just for friends. That's a good idea. You could use me as a model. Yeah, I'll use you as a model. I wish we could put in your teeth because when I did wind up bumping it, this is the last thing we'll talk about. When I did wind up bumping into Frank after so many years, we hung out.
Starting point is 00:54:13 And I thought, oh, his skin, you know, you haven't seen somebody for like so long. I'm like, oh, skin looks good, his body is good. You know, everything was fine, but like your teeth were so yellow. And somehow I managed to. A little coffee and cigarettes in my life. Yeah, and somehow I managed to tell you that. in not an insulting way. I don't know how I am, like I come so honest,
Starting point is 00:54:31 and it's not like I insult people. Like somehow I'm able to tell people stuff like that, and they don't get mad at me. You actually called me and or sent me a text, like thanking me, actually. You thanked me for telling you. Yeah, I liked it because I noticed it, but then when I heard it,
Starting point is 00:54:45 it just said, I wonder if it's very noticeable because I noticed it. Sometimes you think no one else does and you notice it so I was happening. Right. And I told you, which just confirmed.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Those strips are so easy to put on, but I'm so lazy. And you still don't, how are your teeth now? Are they white? Yeah, but I kind of would slack off the strip. I'm going to go get some more. Yeah, just do it. You just got to keep up with it. But yeah, like I did that for you, and I liked if I see somebody that's like a good project,
Starting point is 00:55:13 you're like, oh, look, I was like, you know, listen, if you just made your teeth whiter, it would, like, really up your game, you know, because your skin looks good. You know, there's certain things, little things, little tweaks that people could do that would really change them. that I was like, oh, I'm going to tell him about his yellow teeth. And you were very receptive and thankful. And then somehow we talked about your clothes and uping your game that way. And now that you're 50, you're into it.
Starting point is 00:55:34 And next time I'm home, I'm going to do it. And I'm going to post pictures on my Facebook page, okay? All right? All right? All right. You don't. Pretty print call people anymore, right? No way, right?
Starting point is 00:55:44 I won't do it, but I had the urge with you last night. You did want it to do it last night? No, really? Be honest. I said to myself, when we were thanks to me, that I said to myself, I can't do anything to stupid or whatever tonight. Oh, you were going to do it to me?
Starting point is 00:56:00 I was thinking, no, I was making myself not to say, I better not send her a dick-pick later. Oh, my God. Are you a dick-pick guy? No, I'm really not. Tell the truth. I thought it would have been funny because we thought about it. Yeah, because I was out drinking in the history,
Starting point is 00:56:17 but then I said, I can't do it. Oh, my God, because you don't understand. I'm, like, obsessed with getting a dick-pick guy on my podcast. I had a guy that I dated that was very, very into dick pics and I didn't really I've never really known one before him you know but I got so into the dick not like into it like I liked it but just so into like the headspace like the like what's going on in that person's sort of world because it was so incessant with this guy that I've been dying to get a dick pick guy on my show because I'm sure what you would have this
Starting point is 00:56:48 technology like 25 years ago was in so much trouble right I know that's why I feel so sorry for the Instead of calling, I would have been like, spend the inches all night to people. I would have bought the throwaway phone so they can't track. Instead, we had like old school answering machines. In some reason, it took me like 10 years to figure out that it was you. What color panties are you wearing? Just say it what for us right now.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Say it. Do it. In the fake voice. What color panties are you wearing? No, you did it worse than that, but it was just this creepy. It's, that's fucking creepy, dude. Don't ever do that. I really had to try to, you know, you knew my voice.
Starting point is 00:57:27 It was a very distinct of voice. Yeah, you had to really change it because I didn't know forever. Anyway, thanks for calling in and being honest. We'll do the man makeover soon. Coming like within the next two weeks. Okay, I'll see you soon. Call me soon. Okay, bye.
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