Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 048 - Sex Addicted Doorman has a Fetish for Pregnant Escorts.

Episode Date: November 16, 2014

Nate is a doorman who is addicted to sex and has a major fetish for pregnant chicks and escorts. Even though he's married with a kid, he manages to maintain a total secret life that includes tons of ...sex with multiple woman. Tune in to hear all the juicy details about his affairs with high school chicks, married chicks and pregnant chicks who charge for sex.   **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. Craigslist is definitely the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it. The temptation is just too much.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Real problem. Does your friend know that you're banging her? No, he has no idea. And anything goes. The motto of the show, let your reflect lie. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to re-hide your whips and chain. Here are your hosts, Kathy Kay and Tommy. Hey, welcome to another episode of Strictly Non-This podcast. I'm just going to go right in today
Starting point is 00:00:40 and talk about what we have, what I have on the call today. I'm doing my intro today after the call. So I already know what goes down on this call. There's a guy, a redhead, a ginger, a ginger doorman, who just emailed me and said he's a sex addict. And it turns out that he's got a fetish for pregnant women and hookers escorts. So he screws a lot of pregnant escorts. And even if they're not escorts, if they're pregnant, he turns them into escorts. It's a very interesting dude. He doesn't really call in for advice. I think he might be just calling in to brag. I mean, because he seems to be having a lot of fun in his addiction. I mean, he's the one that calls himself a sex addict, but I don't think he's looking to stop anytime soon. I think that's the weird thing about
Starting point is 00:01:29 sex addiction or a lot of addictions except like the boring ones like I don't know workaholic like when people are workaholics or they're like you know they're really into Jesus or addicted to stuff like that I'm like that's so boring like if you're going to be an addict like be addicted to something fun as shit like sex or alcohol or some sort of great drug like you know wolf of wall street people I mean I don't know about you but I saw that movie and I was like shit I want to come back as a man and be just like that in my next life. I mean, just for a short period of time until I almost die,
Starting point is 00:02:05 and then I'll reinvent myself like that guy. I mean, because that's not a bad life. I'm sure he doesn't look back and really regret much. He's probably, like, kind of happy that he sort of went to the edge, did a lot of crazy shit, had amazing time, almost died, right? And he lost a lot of stuff and he went to jail, whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:20 But, like, he survived, and now he could live a whole other life. So I don't think it's such a bad deal. So that's what I think this guy's like. I mean, he just seems to be. having a great time doing what he's doing. He's growing pregnant women. Ascords. He's, he's got, and he's having relationships with them, and he's got a wife and kid at home, and he basically lives a double, triple life. And, you know, you're going to find fascinating. People like him are fascinating. And, you know, I know guys like this. A lot of guys exist like this. I call him like
Starting point is 00:02:50 the tiger woods of, you know, doormen because he, he's got all that kind of going on. And that is an addiction. You know, some guys just cheat. You need a little, like, pussy on the side, a little variety every now and then that's one thing. But when you're like these guys that really are having so many relationships, and what really comes down to is they're just so needy. And they're like, to me, they're no different than slutty girls that are using sex to get companionship for men. These men are using sex to get women to like them. They're just, I don't know, their mommies didn't love them, you know, and they need to get every bitch to be obsessed with them. And they, you know, but I think it's basically underneath it all. I think it's really
Starting point is 00:03:26 about making women like them. They're so needy, and it's hilarious to me, but, you know, I, he's a good guy, and you'll like his story, and what did I name him? I don't even remember. So I might edit this out. I might not, if so, anyway, but if you want to, if you want to, if you want to, I'm supposed to do this in the beginning of the intro. Tell you where to follow. Follow me on Twitter at Strict Anonymous. You could also follow my Twitter account, which is at Cartoon Therapy. you can subscribe to my podcast either on Stitcher or iTunes. I'm on some sort of Microsoft Office or Micro, I don't know, some other thing too. I don't know where it is.
Starting point is 00:04:02 And write a review. Subscribe and write a review. I got a new review recently, actually, just the other day. And the guy was really funny. He basically said, like your podcast. Oh, this is from Ben 4575.0. He's like, like your podcast dot, dot, dot. but we'll never listen again if you have that douchebag Joe DeRosa on your show.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And then he did a hashtag T-A-C-S. I don't really know what that means, but I'm going to Google it. But Ben, I love your review. Thank you so much for writing your review. I can't listen to you. I mean, will I have Joe DeRosa back on the podcast? Probably no, never, but I like Joe Durosum. I don't know why you think he's a douchebag, but you're entitled to your opinion.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I love opinionated people because I'm opinionated. And, you know, if you fucking hate him, that's great. Just don't listen to that episode. But keep listening to the other ones. And most likely you'll never have to listen to another episode with Joe DeRosa. And it's not because I think he's a douchebag. It's just because, you know, been there, done that onto more people from Craigslist. I personally like the Craigslist people better than the people that I know.
Starting point is 00:05:09 But sometimes I do that too because I think it's interesting. Okay. So stay tuned. I'll be right back with the Ginger Dorman that likes to fuck pregnant escorts. Do you have a story? lifestyle or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com, with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Strictly anonymous. Hey, is this Nate? I'm going to call you Nate. Is that cool? You're going to what?
Starting point is 00:05:52 I'm going to call you Nate. Remember, you told me to make up a name for you. This is Kathy. Oh, yeah, yeah, sure. Okay, so you're Nate. Is this a good time? Yeah, I'm strong. You're drunk?
Starting point is 00:06:02 On the job? Yeah, it's quiet air. We're, okay, so you're, I explained, I do an intro and I explain to everybody that you're a sex-addicted doormand, and you're at work, it's one o'clock in the morning, and you're wasted. How do you have the alcohol at work? I have dormant in my building. Where are they drinking? Where do you drink?
Starting point is 00:06:20 Oh, I'm not drinking. But you said you're drunk No, no You misheard me What did you say? That it was quiet here It was okay Oh, oh
Starting point is 00:06:33 Okay, I thought maybe we were like Oh, so you could talk So that's perfect Okay, great So, you know, you didn't really get into anything You just said that you're a sex addict, you're a dormant You live with a woman, right? You're married and you guys just had a baby
Starting point is 00:06:46 Or you're not married and you just had a baby, right? Yeah, we're married A baby nine months ago. Uh-huh. And how old are you? And how old is she? I'm 31.
Starting point is 00:06:58 She's 37. Right. And how long were you guys dating before you got married? Like how long have you guys been together total? We've been married for two years and we were together for like two or three years before that. Right. And you say like you're a sex addict. And I have to say, out of all, I get a lot, you know, I've been doing my podcast for about nine, ten months now.
Starting point is 00:07:19 And I always put ads on Craigslist and I get people. people emailing me all the time. And one of the number one things that people email me about is people being a sex addict. So many guys think that they're a sex addict. And a lot of people don't think that that actually exists, right? Some people, but yet, like, it's not even like other people are calling it you that. You're thinking that you are a sex addict, right? Like, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Oh, yeah. Wow. And so how do you know that you're a sex addict? Like, why do you consider yourself a sex addict? I mean, I believe that it exists. And it's not like I don't believe you. I just want to know what you do that makes you think you're a sex addict. I think, like, a multitude of reasons.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I mean, I lost track of how many people I had sex that a long time ago. I probably have sex with four or five different women a week. And then I always have sex with my life, you know, like at least three times a week. I could go like three times a day. Right. So you're triple dipping. We call double dipping, a triple dipping. You're triple dipping because you're with your wife and then like two other random people.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Do you have like people that you see on a regular basis or like what is your extra girls all about? Yeah. Yeah? I'm a sugar dives for two different women. So I see once a week. Mm-hmm. And then two other girls are, like, high school girls. And I'm like, well, I'm kind of, they don't even really want that much money.
Starting point is 00:09:00 They're just, I'm just like a friend of benefit kind of thing. Uh-huh. Like I'll buy them something every once in a while I'm with them. Mm-hmm. But the other, the sugar daddy girls, they're like, we pretty, we pretty much just see each other in flux and then go on our way. like a couple of high school girls I met with in the last year. I, uh, they're both over 18. I think it's okay as long as they're over 17, but.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Right. Have you ever, have you looked that up yet? Yeah, yeah. No, New York is 17. Oh, okay. So cool. So they're, um, they're 18. Do they know each other?
Starting point is 00:09:40 No. No, but I've had, uh, I've had girls looking out for me for different, for different, for different girls to meet. What do you mean? Because, like, they know I'm okay with paying for sex. Right. You know, they'll, if they get serious with their boyfriend, they don't want to, they feel it's not right to be with me anymore.
Starting point is 00:10:05 So they'll just, like, hand me over to somebody else, like a friend of theirs that wants to meet me. Right. So you're paying, okay, so you just said, like, you pay for sex. How do you meet these women? Do you meet them in a way that you're soliciting them for sex with money? Like are they escorts or hookers or you just tell them that you'll pay them? Like, how does that transaction work?
Starting point is 00:10:26 Well, I mean, one of the high school girls I'm with now, I just met her on the street. I just decided to start talking with her. So, and I wasn't like, oh, yeah, let's meet for sex. You know. Right. It just happened naturally like any other hookup would happen. Yeah, yeah, which I don't really, it's hard to talk to girls, you know, out in public.
Starting point is 00:10:51 But why? I've gotten lucky here and there. Wait, why is it hard to talk to women in public? Well, because usually if I'm not at work or at home, I'm on the train. That's, like, the only time on my side. Oh, right, right, right. Okay. Well, how did you meet these other women?
Starting point is 00:11:12 Like, which women? Okay, so you won high school girl. you met on the street. What about the other high school girl? She was a younger friend of a girl that I met through Craigs
Starting point is 00:11:27 was. She advertised herself as a hooker and like so she was just like oh do you want to meet my young friend she's 18 now and she wants to be an escort
Starting point is 00:11:43 So I said, yeah, of course. I loved to meet her. So that was the first guy she ever had, you know, pay her for sex. How much did you pay her for sex? $100. And how much were you paid the other one before her? The one from Craigslist. She was like 140.
Starting point is 00:12:04 140? Yeah. I always see girls for an hour. Right. And so, and do you normally, like, do you keep the regulars? Like, the two other women that you say, your sugar daddy for? Were they escorts? Yeah. Yeah, they were, well, that's what I was going to get into. Most guys don't have this fetish, but I love pregnant women. Really? Interesting.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Yeah, I'm a fiend for it. I've even lost track of all the different pregnant girls I've been with. Yeah, how the hell? I mean, I could get, listen, a fetish is a fetish, right? You can't help what you're sort of into, right? And it's a thing. And so I can get that you'd be into it. I just can't believe. Like, how many pregnant women have you found that wanted to, well, I guess that's the really horny when they're pregnant, right? But are these women that have guys or are these like single girls that are pregnant and just can't get laid? So they're like, oh, great, there's some guy that wants to bang me. Most are, like, completely desperate. They, like, one girl I'm seeing right now, her baby's, you know, daddy is, uh, is in prison.
Starting point is 00:13:16 So she's, she's actually living, still living with her mother and she has no job, she hasn't had a job for a year. And, uh, she's desperate for money. And she, she was escorting before, um, before getting pregnant and didn't think anybody would hit her up. So she never actually made an ad. Mm-hmm. Since she's been pregnant, she had, that's another girl that I was seeing this girl as, you know, somewhat regular, like, as an escort.
Starting point is 00:13:48 And she, she wasn't pregnant or anything. But she hit me up out of the blue after a while of not hearing from me. And I said, you know, I'd like to see you, but I'm really, I really only want to see pregnant women. And she's like, oh, okay. So I thought she was upset. she didn't respond back. And a day later, and then she says, oh, yeah, my friend, she would love to meet her. She's pregnant and wants to meet you.
Starting point is 00:14:16 So then I talked with this girl for a few days, and then we met up. We've seen each other three times now. And you pay her? Yeah. So when you say Sugar Daddy, you mean, like, you're paying them for sex and they're, like, escorts? Well, her, she's like that. There's another girl. The two girls that I consider Sugar Daddy is like, you know, we've gone on dates, you know, before.
Starting point is 00:14:47 But lately because of my schedule, you know, we just meet for sex. But, you know, I've gotten them stuff before. And both of them, they were pregnant when I first met them. Right. And were they single and pregnant? Were they what? single and pregnant? No, one of them is...
Starting point is 00:15:10 I don't even want to say it. Why? One of them is married to a sergeant of NYPD. I was going to say, a cop. That's I swear to God. It's okay. He's probably cheating on her. Cops are like notorious for cheating.
Starting point is 00:15:28 I'm really pointing at close. Yeah, but that's part of the rush, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, it is. And I've never really done that. I've never been with a married woman at her house. Oh, you're at our house, at her cops, the sergeant's house? You're going to get shot. He's at work, he has.
Starting point is 00:15:47 You're going to get shot. Yeah, it's kind of scary. And you're not just banging his wife. You're banging his wife when his baby's inside watching. I mean, that is you just, you, I mean, I don't think I hate to say. The baby is in the crib. I can't. No, the baby's inside her right now while you're fucking her, right?
Starting point is 00:16:09 Isn't she pregnant? No, no, no. I met her when she was pregnant. Now, you know, she had the baby a few months ago. Oh, yeah, but you still, so if he caught you when you were banging his pregnant wife and you got killed and you were on the news, nobody would feel sorry for you. I don't even think your mother would feel sorry for you. She'd be like, what a piece of garbage.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Probably not. Probably not. I mean, you live in, like, to the cell phone. There'd be no sympathy for you. Because of the baby and the pregnancy. Oh, my God, and you're in the house. Okay, so now you're banging her in the house and the baby's, like, around and, like, on taking a nap?
Starting point is 00:16:49 Yeah. And, like, he's always so noisy. You just, you know, I come over and he gets, like, all excited. He wants me to play with. Oh, my God. And, you know, we're just trying to have sex. in bed and he won't stay out in the living room. He, like, uses his walker and, like, leave the living room and he's, like, trying to come
Starting point is 00:17:11 into the room. Oh, my God. And she's just trying to get off and do a quickie. And the kid is, like, you know, trying to get involved. It's like having a dog that jumps up on bed, you know, when you're trying to do sex. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And we'll put, like, you know, like, a wall of pillows on the bed because I can't, I can't have sex with, like, anybody looking at me.
Starting point is 00:17:34 never mind that you're like a baby he's like six or seven months now right and you just can't have the little baby eyes watching you I mean I'm sure that that would be a buzzkill I love being with her I'm the only guy that she has sex aside from her husband so you know we have sex without condoms
Starting point is 00:17:55 and she loves anal you know I've come in her ass before I've come in her pussy plenty of times When she was pregnant, I never pulled out. She always wanted me to come together. Right, because that was perfect because she can never. You weren't banging her before she was pregnant, right? Like this started when she was pregnant.
Starting point is 00:18:15 No. Right, right. No, no. She was desperate for some extra money because they have three or four daughters before the son that they had. Where are the other kids when you guys are having sex? They're all at school. They go to school.
Starting point is 00:18:33 I go to school, like, two blocks away. And wait. Okay, I know this story gets more interesting. Wait a second. How old is she? She's younger than me. I think she's like 27, 28. And she has four kids and this husband.
Starting point is 00:18:49 And so you believe her that you're the only person that she's banging on the side? Come on. Yeah, because if I, like, I don't think she would need any other money. I mean, I give her $200 a week. And how many times? you have sex with her? Just like once a week now. Okay, but do you think that $200 is a lot of money?
Starting point is 00:19:13 Yeah. But look, you do her how many times once a week? If she had two more guys like you, she'd be making $600 a week and she likes anal and she's really into the sex. So what makes you think she's not screwing other guys? Come on. I don't think if she is doing anybody else, I don't think she'd be doing it without a common. I mean, she's known me, you know, really a long time now.
Starting point is 00:19:40 You kind of sound like a dumb girl. No, you know why? Because, like, girls will think that that's like a guy doesn't use a condom with them and that he has a guy like, only with you, babe. But it's like, yeah, duh. Like, if he's not using a condom with you, he's not using a condom with anybody. And just trust me, if her husband's not using a condom with the girls, he's banging behind her back.
Starting point is 00:20:02 You guys are spreading around a lot of stuff. But anyway, I don't want to ruin your little fantasy. because that sounds like a very hot situation. I just hope when those pillows are up hiding, you know, the sun from you that it's not going to hide that gun when it's shooting at your head one day. What if he comes home? Isn't she nervous about that? No, she knows his hours.
Starting point is 00:20:22 I mean, he's like all that works. Don't you guys watch TV? I mean, do you guys, do you ever watch 2020 or Dateline? I'm obsessed with those shows. So I really believe that shit goes down. my wife is obsessed with those shows. Right. Oh my God. Wait till she sees you on the show or she's on the show.
Starting point is 00:20:41 She's not going to die. She doesn't realize she's living in an episode of one right now. Because let's get back to your wife. Okay. She doesn't have any idea that you're this guy. I mean, you're basically living a double life that is involving a lot of other. You're like the Tiger Woods, right? You're like that kind of a cheater, right? Yeah, pretty much. You got a lot.
Starting point is 00:21:03 And listen, I know guys like that. you. It's not like it's an uncommon thing, you know what I mean? And it is a sex addiction and it, and it exists. And like I said, I know plenty of guys that are like you. Friends of mine, I've had people that have called up the show and then we know famous people that have cop to it, you know? So you are like Tiger Woods where you
Starting point is 00:21:21 have like the wife and the kid and that life and then you have all this other shit and it's like a lot of stuff. It's not like you're just going and fucking some random hooker and coming home. It's like you're keeping relationship. Like do you have a separate phone? I have sex or what?
Starting point is 00:21:36 No, a separate phone. Oh, no. No, but I have my phone locked at all times. Okay, because, like, how do you manage, like, the call? Okay, what happens, though? Because sometimes, like, you know, if I'm out with somebody and I'm, like, with a guy and I think, like, say I'm dating to you guys at the same time, like, I always get nervous. What if someone texts, do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:57 At the, when someone's looking at your phone. Like, do you never get nervous about stuff like that? Because shit happens. No, because, I mean, I mean, I'll correspond with girls while I'm at work. Because, you know, most sports or whatever, they're always up all night. And so, like, I'll just arrange shit while I'm at work. And then I go see them once I'm out of work.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Right. And then so once I get home, you know, I'll have my phone on mute, or it's locked anyway. So I'm just sleeping. My wife wouldn't touch my phone. She's too busy taking care of the kids. Right. And she totally trusts you. I don't know if she trusts me too much.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I mean, she knows I have a wandering eye, you know, but she just thinks I'm checking out of a girl and that's it. Right. And I mean, so this sex addiction or this kind of like way of being, have you been this way with all women that you've been with? Like, have you ever been in monogamous or have you always had like multiple relationships in the same time? I blame it on losing my virginity at a late age.
Starting point is 00:23:02 How old were you when you lost your virginity? I was 21 Really how come you lost it so late in life First of all wait I always get the scale 1 to 10 How good looking or ugly are you I'd say I'm a 7 7 or 8
Starting point is 00:23:19 Most people say so I'm a good looking guy Okay 7 or 8 7.5 we'll say Yeah I got a full head of red hair Red hair Yeah No way I have blue eyes.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Wait a red hair. Yeah. Girls love my red hair. I can't even picture it. I mean, everyone remains anonymous with me on my calls, and I never see anybody. But I don't think I've ever had a ginger on my podcast. And red, what do you mean by a full head? Is it like curly or straight?
Starting point is 00:23:56 Is it really red, like orange red? Um, it's, it's like, it's like orangeish, brownish. Let me tell you, you live in New York, I live in New York. You're, I know that you're a doorman. I bet you you're the only red-headed doorman. I really, I feel like I'm outing you right now. No, there's, there's pun. I have like 10 doorman.
Starting point is 00:24:21 I have like 10 doorman that work in my building and not one of them has red hair. A full head of red hair. So, okay. you've got red hair, you consider yourself a 7.5, right? Yeah. And why did you lose your virginity at 21? I was just your stereotypical, super shy, you know, traffic schoolboy. You know, I think that might, I lost my virginity very early.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I couldn't wait to lose my virginity and get it on. Like, I couldn't wait to start having sex. Believe me, I felt the same way. But why didn't you do it? It doesn't ever happen. I was like, I was like staying on South Park. I felt like I wanted to puke every time I was trying to talk to a girl. Like, my heart would raise so fast.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I thought, you know, I feel like I was getting a heart attack. Oh, so that kind of makes sense, though, too, because, like, you lived all that time with all that sort of desire, and you never could sort of fulfill it because you had all this fear. So once you broke, like, once you sort of figure out a way to do it and to get it, It's just like now you're feeding that part of yourself. Do you know what I mean? That part of you that probably felt so insecure and couldn't have what they want, you know. And so now I think it does, you know, sort of make you who you are now that you had to wait for so long.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Because you didn't wait for so long because you were just not interested. It's like you really wanted to, but you couldn't make it happen. So now that you can and you have that power, it's like you can't give it up. And I've always been like so sexually attracted to. of Spanish and black women. And when you're young and late, like, even though I lived in New York City and I was around a lot of black and Spanish girls,
Starting point is 00:26:09 it was just impossible. It was never going to happen. Like, I was just, like, ask the girl out and go on a date. How come? It just, you never saw it. Oh, because you were white. Yeah. You married a black woman.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Huh? You married a black woman? Since I've been in my 20s, you know? Right, it was different. When I was young, I never seen it really. Mm-hmm. And when you're young, you're just even more, like, intimidated. Right, of course.
Starting point is 00:26:43 I had black guy friends, and, you know, I would tell them, I was like, oh, I was well-to-go with a black girl, and they would just look at me and laugh. They were like, I don't know, one black woman that would, like, go out with a white guy. With red hair. Especially with red hair. I'm sorry. I mean, I always looked like a nerd. I mean, I always run.
Starting point is 00:27:07 My hair parted, you know, I would always be called like Richie Cunningham or Ron Howard, you know. Yeah. And when I was a kid, I was called Opie, you know, for people that knew that show. and yeah when I went when I went to college it was like even worse I had like
Starting point is 00:27:33 you know public speaking anxiety and and just like so much socially awkward and and I was just like just try to overcome it and
Starting point is 00:27:46 just ask out girls and you know would just get rejected a tons of times, but at least I was like progressing. Yeah, no, you were facing your fear. No, you were facing your fear. I think that that's awesome. Yeah, I was at least asking them out, you know. And after a lot of, after a lot of misses, just eventually what, you know, what killed it, the anxiety is alcohol.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Oh, yeah, well, I haven't drank it 11 years because I, had a problem because I used alcohol for that reason. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That, that, like, killed it. And once I got all my confidence, I really, I don't need alcohol
Starting point is 00:28:32 or weed to, like, talk to talk to anybody. Right, of course. Mm-hmm. You know. And I, I, like, never drunk here. People can't believe that I, you know, I'm 100% Irish.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I don't even fucking, like, I don't even like the taste of beer. I don't even think I can't even think I could have sex while I'm drunk Right but that sort of helped you It helped you like lose your inhibition And do what you needed to do And then once you... But when did you get into like the hookers and everything?
Starting point is 00:29:09 I had some crazy incidents back in the day With like You know the back of the village voice Like calling them those bullshit escort agencies and they would never you would never get what you would want you know what was in the ad but then like
Starting point is 00:29:29 somebody somebody put me on to Backpage Oh yeah back page How many years ago to I mean I was just turned on to Backpage recently Like this year because I've been doing my podcast And I wanted to advertise to get people to call in You know other than Craigslist And I just found out about how long has the Backpage been out there for?
Starting point is 00:29:48 I don't know I've been on since 2010. Oh, okay. You know, and... So someone turned you on to Backpage. Right. Well, where was your first hooker experience? The first two times, I was so nervous,
Starting point is 00:30:06 and the building didn't even look that good, that I didn't even have, I didn't even penetrate. What did you do? That was, that was like, I used to work at a much, much, much nicer building, And I was in, I think that was in 2008. And, yeah, the girls, the first actual one, she was not what was in the end. It was probably a picture of the girl, like, 10, 15 years before.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Right. She probably was, like, 40-something. I had, like, stretch marks everywhere. Oh, my God. I could see her, like, cesarian line. and she only wanted to do doggy style because most of these hookers that look ugly
Starting point is 00:30:52 they only want doggy style because they just want you know, like, come as fast as possible and they don't want to like look at any guy because they know they're not that good loving anymore and it's true. You know your hookers. No, it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:31:09 I'm sure because you've been with so many you sort of see the trend. So when the hooker wants... I can write a book on Joe. just like cookers. Like I know I'm like I've talked to so many. Yeah, you should start a blog like
Starting point is 00:31:22 cook or sex. I know like most of their life stories. And it was so bad like because she was like, man this guy is never going to come because like I couldn't stay hard with her. And
Starting point is 00:31:35 she just kept trying to give me like a toothy blow job. Uh huh. You know. And um she was like, oh,
Starting point is 00:31:44 do you want friend to come in, you know, maybe you like her more. And I was like, I was like, yeah, sure. Like, anything would be better. Right. Oh, God. Than her in the second, right? So she goes, she leaves the living room where we were having sex on, like, a mattress
Starting point is 00:32:02 that was on the floor. And she comes back with a six and a half foot tall tranny. It was a tranny for real? I'm like, I'm looking for real. 100% white woman, you know, white woman, whatever you want to say. Nothing against trainees or whatever, but I'm completely not into that. And I'm just looking at her, and I'm like, my dick couldn't get any smaller at that point. You know, I felt like a six-year-old boy.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I just wanted to, like, crawl in the corner. Oh, my God. Did you get your, did you pay for that shit? Yeah, I had to pay. I had, you know, once I got the door, once I got the door, once I was at the, door she needed to say. I don't even remember how much it was. So that was your first hooker experience
Starting point is 00:32:52 and then you still went on to have another one? Yeah, I kept trying. But you know, with, I went like a year without doing that and back page and I think I was with I was with two regular girls
Starting point is 00:33:10 you know, meaning non-pregnant and they were good experiences. and then and then this black chick from Callie was put up an ad back when they wouldn't really
Starting point is 00:33:25 flag it now you could never find a pregnant chick on on back page oh really? Yeah even on Craigslist it's kind of hard because I think a pregnant woman got like she was like an escorting like in some other state and she
Starting point is 00:33:41 got like kidnapped and raped and murdered and so they're like really cautious they don't want. Oh, right, they're protecting the baby. Right, they're protecting the baby. Yeah. They don't really care about hookers. No, exactly.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Exactly. And it's bad because there's so, you have no idea, there's so many, so many pregnant women that, like, would love to get guys to pay them because there's so much attention from guys. I, uh, not to get off coffee. but like to do you know I know we were going like in chronological order but it's okay yeah this girl
Starting point is 00:34:21 this girl right now that I'm seeing um she's one of like two different uh pregnant chicks and she had me put up ads for her because every time she would have like her cousin put up an ad and then we get flags like right away yeah so so I was putting up like code words you know that or like just putting like slang words for uh for pregnant women right So that other people would be Googling. Yeah, so the guy's mail. So she literally got like 400 emails in two days. Really?
Starting point is 00:34:57 Yeah, 400 emails. But the problem is a lot of guys want to do bear back and they want to do anal. And I'm like, actually, she's like, no way I'll do anything bare. But I'm like, if you get the guy's papers, you know and he's gonna pay you a hell of a lot more than if it was a fixed on them you know I think I told her I think you should be open to it you're out of your mind no not when she's pregnant I mean listen if she wants to just fuck with that when she's not papers don't mean anything they could doctor that shit up and when she's pregnant it's
Starting point is 00:35:34 very dangerous like you just don't want to how you don't want to get anything I mean I've done it I mean I was you know girls that were like I was seeing on the regular basis. You know, I would show them my papers. And, like, they were like, okay, fine. You know, you just got to pay me more. But do you see their papers? Do you, are you concerned that maybe they have something?
Starting point is 00:35:58 I mean, they are hookers. And they are like screwing you, bear back. Most almost all the girls that have been pregnant, they never insured it before. They were just best for money. Like, they need to screw. or they need, you know, they need fucking diapers and shit.
Starting point is 00:36:19 So they're doing this. I, multiple, a multiple amount of girls, they didn't even, they didn't even have any family. But then you turn, but what about the one that you're posting ads for? So then you got them into it and then you turn them into escorts?
Starting point is 00:36:34 No, I've never done that. Oh, okay. I've never done that. So you, I mean, I've told girls, I said, listen, you know, that,
Starting point is 00:36:43 um, girls that are pregnant that have friends. They're like, oh, I have a friend. She wants like a sugar daddy. I'm like, well, you know, we have to have sex. Right. I'm just not going to just hand out money. And so they were like, okay.
Starting point is 00:36:59 And so, you know, I was the first guy that they did. I don't know how many guys they've gone since. So when you say you're a sugar daddy, every time you have sex with them, you give them money or you just buy them stuff? Sometimes they'll bring something for them if they ask. Like what? I'll order something online and then like have it delivered to their house. Like what?
Starting point is 00:37:21 Well, when the girls who are pregnant, I'll, you know, I sent like stroller and stuff. But other girls... Very sweet. Yeah. Other girls that's like, you know, your basic shit, they just want like a little bit of jewelry or something. Right. And what kind of jewelry? Like expensive jewelry or like, you know, $100?
Starting point is 00:37:44 Nothing crazy. Right. Nothing crazy. Right. But what's so crazy is like we were just talking about this and you're a single guy, you know, in a weird way, I feel like I'm having this conversation with you as if you're single. But you're really not. Like you're like a married man.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Your wife and baby are sleeping at home. So you live like this massive double life. How do you feel about that? I mean, every once in a while I get like strong. only huge feeling of guilt, you know. Right. But, I mean, most of the time I feel like, you know, I'm doing rape by her. You know, she never goes without her sexual needs.
Starting point is 00:38:33 You know, I'm a giver, you know, meaning that, you know, I eat her out all the time. You know, I'm not begging for both jobs. You were probably a great husband while she was pregnant, right? because you must have loved when she was pregnant. Oh, my God. Right? Yeah. I, uh, she couldn't, I mean, at first, I couldn't get enough of her and then in the third trim,
Starting point is 00:38:57 or she couldn't get enough of me. Right. And it was just like I was, I was like pushing her away from me. I was like, listen, I'm fucked out, you know. Right. But she doesn't realize that you're having other ones. Like, where do you do these other women? Like, you leave to go to work and, like, you stop at their place before.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Like, how do you find the time? Yeah, every once in a while, like if girls, you know, it depends on their schedule. If the nights are only good for them, I'll see them before work. And, you know, I used to work days, so I would just, you know, I just told my life that I was going to go to the bar with some friends. And I'd end up going, I've gone everywhere for pregnant women. I've taken the New Jersey Transit to like East Orange, West Orange, I've been to Hoboken, took the long out and railroad a few times. You'll travel for the baby bump.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Yeah, I just absolutely love it. And I've been to some real scary situations because I was like in some real hood areas. Like East New York, I've probably been there more than anywhere else. because I think I've seen like six separate pregnant women there. And where are you finding most of these people from on Craigslist? Yeah, Craigslist is the only place for that. For the pregnant women. Yeah, the first like three pregnant women I've seen, they were on back page, but that was like a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Right. And they stamped that out. So most of these pregnant women, though, are they just looking for sex? or they're not pimping themselves as as escorts, really. It's more just for sex? No, they want money. Right. How much does a pregnant lady get for a night in the sack?
Starting point is 00:40:58 It depends on a house. I don't, I don't negotiate. If they set a price, I expect with it. I'm not one of these cheap guys. So how much? Like I'll pay up to, for an hour, I'll pay up to like $2.20. That would be the highest I would go. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:17 But the majority is like 150 to like 200. Right. Right now I'm seeing one girl, she's black. She charges 150. We'll have to figure it for the third time tomorrow morning. And then the Spanish girl that I told you about. that I put up the ad for her. She,
Starting point is 00:41:48 she wanted one, she wanted up to like 200. Mm-hmm. And I was like, well, was 150 okay? And she's like, yeah, because she actually couldn't get anybody to go over 120.
Starting point is 00:42:01 You're so funny, you're just like, I don't negotiate. They give you a price. I take it. And now, one story later, you're like, oh, yeah, I got her down to 150.
Starting point is 00:42:11 No, but I learned. So you do negotiate. No, because she didn't know what her price was. Oh, okay. Oh, could you do 200? And I'm like, well, what about $1.6? And seriously, the guys are so fucking cheap. Are they tell you stories?
Starting point is 00:42:33 I don't know if it's because she's in the Bronx. I keep telling her to get it, just get a hotel room in Manhattan and stay there for the weekend. and then you know you would make like quadruple what the price of the run is you know right right but she can't she can't get away from her family she has she's living with her family and then her um her uh his father she they're their her mother is there all the time like keeping an eye on her and meanwhile she has like they won't give her any money whatsoever they just want to keep her like locked up and he had the house Right. So where does she do her, like her trip, like where she get doing these guys?
Starting point is 00:43:19 Well, she, I don't know if she's only a Mexican I think I put up to add. And she won't leave her neighborhood. She was in, she was in like Riverdale. Right. And so she'll see them in a motel over there. Right. And do you ever have any kind, like, I mean, because it sounds like you stay friends with these people. And I hear that a lot, right? That it's not just like sex and you leave. like, you know, you have like, you know, these guys, like, you become like friends with them, right? Yeah, because, I mean, they, they figure only I can understand them and they only can, you know, they're the only ones that can understand me.
Starting point is 00:43:56 So we have, like, you know, a verbally beneficial relationship because we, you know, we do like to talk to each other. Right, right. Because really what it is is like both of you are sort of being more real with each other than you are with anybody else in your lives. right because she knows your dirty secret you know her dirty secret and everything else is a big sham a little bit right like your poor wife is sort of on the other side of that she sort of gets a lot from you but she doesn't really know exactly who you are there's this big part of your life right and it's sort of an issue right you call it a sex addiction you emailed me and i don't bait and switch on on in my email it's sort of like do you have a problem or do you have a secret life you want to talk
Starting point is 00:44:41 about, right? So you, you know, you're dumping your stuff here. So you have like this whole big thing that involves a lot of players. I mean, look, we're like all over the place with all your girls. Like, you probably have a million of these stories, right? And your wife has no clue about anything. So you live like a whole other life. Yeah. And, you know, it's, I wouldn't consider my life a sham. No, not a sham. Did I say that? That was wrong. I'm responsible with her, you know. Right. You know, like I said, I do take care of everything. You know, I love playing with my kid. Her teenage daughter, like, you know, I take care of stuff for her.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Her father does, like, send her money. Not as much as he should. Like, I've been trying to convince my wife to, you know, send him to court to get more of money because it's a pittance, you know, what he spends. And, you know, with school clothes and her phone bill or everything, like, I take care of all that. Right, but the truth is if you could never be honest about what you do with her because she would never be with you. So you have to sort of, if you want to be who you are, which is this guy that wants to be married and have a kid, right, and loves this woman, but also has this addiction on the side. It needs to be with tons of women and get, you know, that, you know, those needs met at the same time, you know, she's not going to, who would put up with that, right?
Starting point is 00:46:06 So you kind of have to live a double life. I mean, it's hard. I know guys in your position. It's not like you're not the only one, you know? But you call it a sex addiction. So on some level, you do know it's a problem. Yeah. Yeah, there's a problem.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Like, I thought I literally, you know, gotten out of this phase, if you want to call it that. Like, I'd thought I would stop, like, when she was pregnant. Mm-hmm. But, you know, there were certain days where I was turning her down and then like the next morning while she was like either down at my parents
Starting point is 00:46:43 or or you know out shopping for the day like I would have a girl come over that was that was also pregnant in your house? Yeah. Do you get worried about like you know, them leaving stuff behind
Starting point is 00:46:58 like lipstick or pieces of their hair you know because that stuff is like easy to find? I'm really thorough. I mean once once once a girl, like, I don't do it anymore. I don't have girls come over anymore. Uh-huh. Because actually, we moved into a bigger apartment.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Uh-huh. But, yeah, when I don't have that happen, I was, like, Dexter. I was, like, like, we get the lint roller on, like, you know, every inch of the bed and, like, the bathroom and everything. I would have, because I would have girls, like, take a shower before and after. or, right. And then like, we always have sex like on a towel on the bed. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:47:44 And everything. So, and, uh, I was, I was pretty thorough and, like, making sure I wouldn't get caught.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Right. But you did take the risk with the bringing them into your house. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, it's hard. This kind of addiction is hard to sort of fix or,
Starting point is 00:48:02 because it feels really good, right? Like, that kind of sex. That, sex addicted, chase, you know, conquer, fetish sex that you're having is probably like such a high for you, right? Like, you know? So it's like. Yeah. And like any addiction, it's like you have to sort of hit a bottom for you to ever, you know, get sick of it. Like something really bad might have to happen to you for you to sort of stop. I mean, that's what normally happens. It's not like people
Starting point is 00:48:34 make most people like even when I quit drinking 11 years ago I wasn't like oh I'm going to be smart and I'm drinking too much and I should just stop like it doesn't come on like that you know what I mean it comes on like oh my god you're in the worst place of your life and you have no other choice because you're never going to leave an addiction you know for the to do the right thing because whatever you're doing is great it's a it's serving a huge like purpose in your life and you don't really realize what that purpose is until you quit the addiction. Like you'll never know why you're fucking all these women unless you completely stopped and didn't do it and didn't feed that urge and then allowed whatever was going to come up to come up. And then you'd be like, oh, now I realize
Starting point is 00:49:18 why I'm doing this because I'm insecure because of whatever, you know what I mean? Because of whatever, you know, but you can't ever figure it out while you're doing it. You know, I, when I quit drinking, I just thought I quit drinking because I was like blacking out too much, you know, and I couldn't physically drink. Like, that was what happened to me at the end, you know?
Starting point is 00:49:34 I used to happen. I mean, too. Yeah, I was a blackout drinker. And I blacked out thousands of times, but towards the end, and it didn't stop me, you know. But what happened towards the end was that I was blocking out after like 30 minutes, you know, and I was like crossing lines and I was thrown out of bars. It was like really bad. So I had no choice but to quit. And once I quit and I couldn't drink.
Starting point is 00:49:55 And I have very good willpower. So when I quit, I was like, okay, I'm not going to drink. And it was very devastating to me. I lost friends. I didn't know what the fuck to do. and when I didn't have alcohol I started to see that the reason why I drank
Starting point is 00:50:08 and it wasn't like I drank every day a lot of times your addiction isn't like you know even if you're not doing it every single day it's still affecting you all the time you know and I realized that any time I felt insecure anytime I had any kind of feeling that wasn't great you know
Starting point is 00:50:24 I look to drink because then drinking allowed me to go and screw people or do whatever it was to create some drama someplace else so I didn't have to deal with what I was dealing with, whatever, you know, and just all the stuff started to come up when I wasn't drinking that I never was able to see when I wasn't. So that's the thing about addiction. Like, you'll never know what that addiction is why you're doing it unless you completely stopped it. So it's very hard to say, oh, I'm going to stop because I'm doing this for this
Starting point is 00:50:50 and that, you know. And that's why most people have to hit a bottom. And a bottom for a sex addict is hard. And the hard thing, like, listen, with alcohol, it's easy to say I'm never going to drink again and not drink because it's not, you don't have to drink to survive. But Sex is a part of like real life, right? Like you can't say I'm never having sex again, you know? Like you could say I'm never having sex again with like millions of pregnant women on Craigslist, you know, and I'm just going to fuck my wife. Like that would be normal to say. But you can't say I'm not going to have sex with anyone.
Starting point is 00:51:18 It's not black and white. So you can't. So it's a very hard thing to sort of conquer because you kind of have to be moderate, right? You have to say I'm not going to have like meaningless sex or sex with strangers or sex with hookers and I'm just going to have sex with my wife. but how do you kind of do that? You know, there's a lot that goes into it for guys, especially with men, because I think men are not monogamous creatures to begin with, right?
Starting point is 00:51:39 Yeah. Speaking of when you said, you know, meaningless sex and, like, use them, I think that's one of the reasons why, you know, I get so much attention, like, after the first or a couple times, like, having said to be doing it, because I'm not, like, just going in and just, like, you know, fucking them as hard as why. possible and just leaving.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Right. But, you know, I want to, like, I want to have a conversation with them. I, you know, I do foreplay. I know, but I got to tell you, I have to tell you, a lot of guys are like that, that do what you do. Yeah. Yeah, because it's more that, the thing is that what you're addicted to isn't just the sex.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Do you understand? It's getting these people to like you. It's this added attention, this added relationship. Yeah, it's beating my ego. Yeah. So it's, it's so many guys that have your. problem, do the same thing and give the women all that stuff too. You're not the only one that's having these things and making them friends. You know, that's all the guys that have your problem are
Starting point is 00:52:41 the same way. So they're having these relationships because they're feeding, it's not just about the sex. It's about getting girls to like them and feeding their ego that need to get as many women as possible because you, you know, some part of you didn't feel good about that that you couldn't get it or whatever it is, it probably goes back pretty deep, a lot, you know, before high school. But, you know, and that's what it is. So a lot of guys that do, listen, some guys are just, you know, going into screw and that's it.
Starting point is 00:53:10 And those people don't really have a problem. I think that that's more normal. I always tell my guy cheater friends. Like, if you, you know, because I don't know how realistic it is to believe that a man's going to be monogamous to one woman his whole life, you know. But if you want to fuck a hooker every now and then, fine, go do it, whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:26 You know, but you love your wife. You come back. But what you're doing and what a lot of guys do is so much more than that, you know. There's so much more involved. And all the guys that I know that are like you, they make, they have these secret relationships with these women. And they become friends and they have these, like, you know. And it's fulfilling to them in a way. It's a different kind of relationship than you have with your wife.
Starting point is 00:53:48 But like you say, like you guys are really close, right? Like you have these conversations probably with them that you don't have with your wife and you probably reveal things to them. And you feel like it's special, right? Yeah. And, you know, I tell them about my life. Like, they know that I'm married and have kids and everything. Right. Yeah, I was going to ask that before, but I figured they know. Yeah, at first they think I'm crazy, but I'm just like, I can't help that. I just want to, you know, I want to have sex with tons of women.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Right. It's like an insatiable desire that, like, can't be satisfied. And probably never will because it's. not really like deep down inside not to get to like doctor fill with you but like deep down inside it's like not about all this stuff you know it's like some sort of empty sort vapid hole inside of you that needs to be filled with other things besides what you're going after that's why you'll never satisfy it you know what I mean no matter how many women you get no matter how pregnant your wife gets you know it's never going to be satisfied through that eventually if you're lucky because I believe that people that hit bottoms are the lucky ones
Starting point is 00:54:57 You know, I always felt like, shit, if I think back to when I quit drinking and what happened to me, I feel so lucky that the stuff happened to me to take me down. Because if that didn't happen, I would still be drinking. You know what I mean? And I would still be like the other person that I was and I wouldn't have changed, you know, being so sober for whatever. So if you're lucky, you'll, you will have something horrible. I know it sounds fucked up, but like you will have something horrible happened to you. Unfortunately, the horrible thing could be that your wife finds out. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:55:29 And that's like devastating because you'll lose a family. You know what I mean? Like you'll lose your wife. And I'm sure you love your wife. I don't believe that when someone's an addict that it has anything to do with them not being a lot. You know, it's not like that you don't love your wife. It's more that maybe you don't love yourself or you have some issues with yourself, you know? Yeah, whenever X-As would find out that I was cheating on them, that was the first question they would ask.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Like, do you really love me? Of course. No, but it's no different than the person that's married to the alcoholic. My sister was married to an alcoholic. And like, you know, you think to yourself, like, if you love me, you'd stop. You know what I mean? But they can't help it. You can't help it.
Starting point is 00:56:09 The attic can't help it. But it doesn't take, you know, just because you could sort of understand something logically in your brain, it's sometimes hard to accept it emotionally. You know, so the, you know, a woman will know on some level that it's not about her, but how could she not personalize it, you know? Yeah But there's like a lot of addictive personalities in my family And I don't know I think being a sex addict is probably the least Worst thing you could be you know
Starting point is 00:56:40 You think so? Yeah How come? Because it's the most fun It is more fun I've had like I have family members you know O-D I've had
Starting point is 00:56:54 You know family members like just getting to like countless fights while drunk you know right I see what you're saying you're saying it's like it's like it's not really hurting but I mean listen you know like cigarette addicts in my family like they've had health problems so
Starting point is 00:57:14 it's like right I don't know yeah no it's a hard one to say to say because it's like you know sex is so great and it feels so good and you're having a lot of fun but on some level we know you know it's a problem right I know it's a problem and it's a problem that exists but it's because it sort of has its benefits
Starting point is 00:57:33 right it's it's hard to say why stop definitely hurting my wallet that's for sure yeah how much money a year do you think you spend on these like sugar daddy baby daddy shit that you're doing yeah how much you think that your wife is not getting
Starting point is 00:57:48 spent on her I have no idea how to estimate that um well how much you pay out a week typically I mean in the last few months I guess every week I spend I spend like $3 to $450
Starting point is 00:58:08 $450 a week $4.50? Yeah so about $3.70. Like about half my paycheck goes to this. So you're spending about $20,000 a year? Is that it?
Starting point is 00:58:24 Yeah. I guess. Mm-hmm. So wait, you said you're doing, how many, how much a week? Like 375 a week? Yeah, three to 400. There's 52 weeks in a year, right? It depends on how many.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Yeah, so you're spending about 20 grand. You don't think that that's a lot? It's not that big of a deal. You're like, oh, that's it? Yeah, there's a lot. Well, no, it's like, listen, that's money that you could have and you could, you know, But I don't think that you'll ever stop until something actually happens. And unfortunately, I don't know if you've noticed this, if this has started to happen with you.
Starting point is 00:59:02 But like eventually you need more and more like sort of different kinds of situations to get you off. Like a lot of times that's what they say about addiction. Like it's like a progressive sort of disease if they want to call it that, you know. So it's like that what you need more stuff to get you satisfied because eventually, you know. That's true. Right. So, you know, all of a sudden now you're in, like, the cop's house and, like, that's maybe helping, you know, get you off and everything. But, like, you do, I guess, because you said that's true, that you do see it progressing like that for you?
Starting point is 00:59:38 Yeah, because, I mean, I've had three different threesome with two pregnant women. I'm actually planning on having another one. It's in the next week or so. Uh-huh. Trying to arrange that. A third. So two pregnant women. Yeah, I got a deadline because one of them is going to give birth by the end of the month. Right. So you're like, one isn't enough. I need two. Now two, right?
Starting point is 01:00:08 Yeah. It's amazing to have, you know, to be like kissing one of their bellies and like rubbing the other. And I'm like eating one out and then like fingering the other. Right. Yeah, it's pretty awesome. Right. I'm sure. Like, I mean, it sounds great. And I'm sure everyone listening, like, we should just have you just tell some, like, really hot stories.
Starting point is 01:00:35 I think everybody should have a pregnant threesome. A what? A pregnant threesome? Yeah, everybody listening out there should have a pregnant threesome. Right. But what happens at? What could you do after the threesome? Like, where do you go after that?
Starting point is 01:00:50 I don't even know. A four-s. I mean, you know, what do you do after the three-some? Yeah. There's nothing that can top that. I just, you know, I rest for just like a week or so. And, you know, get my bearings back. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:01:05 And you find, and you find that you're still okay to have sex with your wife all the time, too, like you're still interested in her? Yeah. Yeah, she's great and bad. She's amazing on top, which I always love with a girl to be, which is, is, is, pretty difficult for most pregnant women to do. And she was good on top when she was pregnant? Yeah. Yeah, and she's always been good on top.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Did she, was she surprised at how you navigated her pregnant body? Was she kind of like, was she kind of like surprised at how like, how, how sort of used to her pregnant body you were, like, by any chance? No, no. I just told her, you know, I'm, I'm cautious. Right. I just want to be cautious with her. And, you know, most women, whether they're pregnant or not, they're, like, self-conscious with their bodies.
Starting point is 01:02:03 So I've always found, like, a lot of girls don't want to be on top at all. Right. And, but I love it. I love, you know, when a girl has, you know, a nice big thighs and a fat ass that I'm grabbing. Mm-hmm. And, like, I just want them to go crazy. I'm just like just ride that like
Starting point is 01:02:23 it's a fucking dildo I don't care you know I'm just so crazy right so how many of your friends like do a lot of people
Starting point is 01:02:31 know about your this whole secret light like this whole thing that you have your guy friends no one time one time it almost slipped
Starting point is 01:02:43 because I had a girl calling me and I had her saves on my phone and it's said, you know, because it's, I save so many numbers. And I'm kind of like one of those memorabilia people. Like I said, I can't remember how many I've had. But I always, I have like, I have like a list somewhere which I like need to update.
Starting point is 01:03:08 And like on my phone I have like dates and times and, like, I'm like, you know, like where I busted my nut. Yeah, just so you know. No, that's the shit that's going to take you down. Right there. I like here. No, right there, right there. That's it. That's going to take you down eventually.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Somehow, that is like the dumbest thing for someone like you to have. It really is. It's going to take. That's the problem right there. That's the stupidest thing. If you never want to get caught and you want to be professional, pregnant man, you know, whatever. Extraordinary. You need to throw out your memorabilia and your lists.
Starting point is 01:03:50 I mean, your diary of your cheating. I mean, that's so stupid. I know. Like, two years ago, I had a separate calendar. I had a calendar hidden in my closet. Your closet, you're like a 15-year-old. Yeah. It has, like, everything down, like, how much I paid
Starting point is 01:04:12 what the girl's, you know, fake name was. Oh, my God, wait. Where is that calendar now? I have it hidden. You still have it? Oh my God. I really need you to burn that you need to burn that calendar. You cannot have it.
Starting point is 01:04:31 You don't watch Dateline, but I do and your wife does. And this is the shit that gets people taken down. Wives with knives, right? What? I said wives with knives. Wait, what did you say? I can't hear you. That's so wives with knives.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Oh, I've never heard of that. There's a show called Wives with Knives. Yeah. No, well, listen, there was a date. No, there was a date line the other night about a woman who, like, dated this guy and she was engaged him. And I think he sort of called off the engagement. So she went mental and started stalking him and called, like, she called child services on him. She called the cops.
Starting point is 01:05:09 She accused him of molesting his kids. She did the most vicious psychotic things, not only on him of people he knew. But what she did that took her down was she documented everything. She had some weirdo notebook like you where she wrote every single thing down. And when the cops went to their house, they couldn't believe that all the evidence was right. Like she had basically handed over to them. That's what you're doing right now. You are literally signing your death sentence.
Starting point is 01:05:34 And maybe it says, listen, I go to psycho now. I do psychoanalyst. My therapist is a psychoanalyst, which they believe that like everything is like subconscious. Maybe this is the part of you that wants to get caught. You're literally taking notes for yourself. Like, here you go. And by putting it in your closet, you're basically handing it over to your wife. It's just a matter of time.
Starting point is 01:05:55 You're so dumb. You have to, like, throw that shit out if you want to be a professional. That's, you're right, because the worst thing that could, to be honest, like, my life finding out wouldn't even be the worst thing that would happen. What would be the worst? My parents, my parents finding out about my life would be the worst possible thing. Right. Because, you know, I've always been close to my family. You know, them looking at me in a negative light would be the worst.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Right, for them to really know the truth. Or to them to just listen. For them to really see, like, this whole secret thing that you have would be devastating. Yeah. Because my ex before my wife, one of the times when she'd broke up on me because we eventually got back together after this intimate. She broke up in me after finding out that I was cheating on her. And she was with her, because she was living at my parents' house with me.
Starting point is 01:07:02 At the time, I was like 24, I think. And so she came with her best friend, another girl, and just to, like, get all her shit out of my house, out of my bedroom, really. Uh-huh. And, and, uh, she was just so pissed off in me that she went to my dad and was just like, you have no idea about your son. He's, he's, he's, like, he's been cheating on me since we, since I met. He, uh, he has, he has, he has, like, goes on dates with girls.
Starting point is 01:07:43 And, you know, he's, he's an asshole. He has, he has no idea. he really is or whatever. Mm-hmm. And that was like the most... My dad never said one word to me about that. He was just... Isn't that worse?
Starting point is 01:07:56 Yeah, he was just absolutely fucking devastated. That's what I mean. It's worse when they don't say something because that's like the old... Like that's... Like, that says more. You know what I mean? Of their sort of disgust
Starting point is 01:08:07 that they can't even say anything to you. And I was scared to death what he was going to say because, you know, my dad kicked me out of my house. like two different times for smoking weed. And, you know, so in our family, like, everybody, like, was married before they had a kid. And it was always, like, not like a strict, strict Catholic family, but, you know, I know all my cousins.
Starting point is 01:08:38 I know all my aunts and uncles. Like, everybody was always close and everything. And to find out somebody who was. like, you know, having sex with hookers and, like, you know, just having sex with multiple different women would be, it would internally make you a black sheep. Right. Well, but didn't he find that out when you were doing it with your, but I guess it's different, like, with a girlfriend than with your wife. Yeah, that was, I mean, that was a few years ago.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Let me ask you this. How did she find out? Well, this was years ago before smart phones. and I don't even think I really had a lock on my phone that I had. And she just went through my text and saw that I had been on a date with the girl. She, you know, the girl was just saying, like, oh, I had a great night last night or whatever, you know, can't wait to see you again. Right. So these were multiple relationships, too.
Starting point is 01:09:43 They're kind of like relationships, right, in a certain way? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that was years ago. I tried to, like, I tried to have, like, multiple girlfriends, you know. Before I get serious with my wife, I had, I had, like, another serious, somewhat serious girlfriend. And then, like, I had, like, a couple fuck buddies, you know? Uh-huh. And then eventually I just gave all that up, and I was just, like, it's just so much easier just to, like, have a hooker.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Just call a hooker and give her money, and then that's it, you know. Right. She's not going to, like, she's not going to bother you. to take her out on the date, you know. Right, and then when you get the emotions involved, like these other hookers and stuff and all these other girls, like, have you ever had any experiences of them, like sort of falling for you or starting to like you or now?
Starting point is 01:10:30 A hooker? Well, any of these girls that you've been doing business with while you're with your wife? They never said it. I mean, I kind of felt it a little bit because they just never take things, like, so into sex. and like, like, just wanted to kiss me every time they see me. Right. They were, like, happy to see me and everything.
Starting point is 01:10:53 And, you know, they would, you know, after sex, they would just, like, complain about, like, their entire life. You know, I'm trying to hang out with me. Like, nothing was, like, positive in their life. Right. So you felt that they felt you were special. But, I mean, has it ever become complicated? Has it been?
Starting point is 01:11:15 No. No. See, because that would happen if you were, dating like regular girls probably you know what I mean yeah right yeah that would happen I had one girl years ago obsessed with me she she comes she convinced my ex
Starting point is 01:11:29 that uh that I was part of a gang bang at a party one night and uh that I that I fucked her and that we that I videotaped it that it was on my phone or something like that my girlfriend believes that shit for the long time and it wasn't true
Starting point is 01:11:46 No. Right. Right. Well, the truth isn't that far for a bit, because you've always cheated on all your girlfriends, right? Did I what? Have you always cheated on all your girlfriends? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:00 You haven't ever remained monogamous. No, it's impossible. Right. You think it would be impossible for sure? It's absolutely impossible. I mean, I think any guy's saying that he could He's just lying. Any guy who says he's never cheated is lying.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Right. I think most of my we do, but the way that you're cheating is such an extreme, though, you know, it's not, it's sort of like, that's why you are going to probably be taken down. Oh, can I say one thing about my ex? Sure. The last time she both up with me,
Starting point is 01:12:40 she went through my phone and texted every single, female name on my phone but even included like long longtime friends that I've never even like hit on. Right. And what did she say to them? And she texted all of them and said that whoever you are
Starting point is 01:13:02 just cheating on you because oh my God I said my name. Can you believe that? 1,000% no problem for sure. I edit no no no don't worry I edit a lot of things So I'll completely edit that out. Go on.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, don't worry. So she said, whoever you are, you don't know who you're really with. He's cheating on you. I'm his girlfriend. We've been together for three years.
Starting point is 01:13:31 You should get yourself checked out because you might have something. And then, like, this long spiel that she sent out to all these girls. I only found out because one or two girls sent me a message like, hey, the girlfriend that you told me about, I think she sent me a text message saying that you were cheating on her and I'm like, oh my God.
Starting point is 01:13:59 And then so I tried to like patch it up with two girls that I was seeing. One girl was an NYU student. Another girl is this, like, smoking hot, like model looking like African shit. She was like the only skinny girl I've ever liked. Right. I never told you that.
Starting point is 01:14:18 I'm a really skinny guy and I don't like skinny women at all. Right, right. You like the thicker girls. Yeah. And so, yeah, she was like model level like six foot two and like from, I can't remember from where Kenya, I think. Right. And so I tried to tattoo with her in this NYU chick. And they were like, you need to not call me.
Starting point is 01:14:43 again. And it was, it was, it felt like shit because NYU girl, I was, I started seeing her when me and my ex was like, like single. We were broken up for a while. Uh-huh. And she gave to this day the best blow jobs I've ever had in my life.
Starting point is 01:15:03 She had the, like, fullest lips. Right. She was smoking hot and, like, I would make the boobs. And, uh, yeah we actually were you know we're going on dates and stuff so you were having like real like you were having a couple different relationships at the same time yeah yeah i know guys like that too i mean that's hard to keep up with isn't it like the scheduling and everything like yeah it was tough
Starting point is 01:15:31 but i managed for a while for a good year and a half two years i had aside from my my serious ex um i had i had i had at least one other girlfriend at all times right and at one time I had three girlfriends for a good year and what would how would they like
Starting point is 01:15:49 would they eventually how would they eventually get like out and get a new one in like would they eventually just find out that you were with other people like how would those
Starting point is 01:15:57 relationships end well like that girl but a couple of girls including a white girl that I was with um for a while I uh
Starting point is 01:16:06 I just cut her off I just said oh you know I found somebody and I getting serious with her. So she was like, okay, fine. Right.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Because, you know, it was never really serious with her. We would just, we would just, she could drink me under the fucking table. She was a part of the girl. And, oh, my God, we would go out and I couldn't keep up with her. Like, I thought I was a big drinker. And she, um, we would go home and that was the only time she was horny. Let me ask you this, though, about your wife. Let me ask you this about your wife.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Like, when you first met her, did you stay sort of, did you, Did you try to be monogamous with her? Like, or like, were you cheating on her right from the beginning? Or, like, did you ease into that? No, I was, I was, um, it was a month after my ex broke up with me. And, uh, I was like a big fucking mess. And, uh, I didn't even want to talk to him. And I was just, like, jerking off tons, plenty of times a day.
Starting point is 01:17:08 And, uh, like, a couple of my coworkers were like, dude, you need to get fuck out, you know? Right. They just don't being so depressed. Because everybody was like, knew I was depressed and, you know, there were co-workers that didn't really know me like that. They weren't close with me and I asked my close co-workers like, was he all right? Like, he looks like he's going to kill himself or something. Right. Which I would never do. I mean, I've dealt with depression like since I was like 13 or whatever, but I never would be serious about killing myself.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Right. But you were upset that you were in a breakup and you met this woman very shortly after. So you guys started, your wife, you guys started dating. Yeah. Yeah. She was just, like, so sweet and innocent. And she's like, she's really religious. She was a Bible study teacher.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Oh, my God. And she's, like, a real hard for a Christian. like if I say anything or we watch a movie that says anything like somewhat like anti-religious or forget about like family guy herself back i can't watch that around there she's just like oh that's splashed for me oh my god okay liz okay i can't i can't first of all i don't like my podcast to be more than an hour we're at or i want 14 minutes but i could talk to you for another two hours but yeah and now i go i know no it's awesome and i have people repeat caller so i'm going to definitely have you back on because i think just we just we'll have a call
Starting point is 01:18:39 where you just tell some dirty stories because people love that too. You know, you probably have like some really good stories. But I needed to get the background on you first, right? To figure out who the fuck you are. But this is the deal with this Bible study and she's like, you have to, okay? You have to right now when you go home tonight. Like you start, don't fuck anybody.
Starting point is 01:19:00 No talking to pregnant. I mean, go find your diaries and all that stuff and throw the shit out. I'm telling you. Seriously If you don't want your father To be disappointed in you Throw that stuff out Because when that girl finds out
Starting point is 01:19:16 You're never going to be the same She will find out I'm telling you eventually It happens at some point It really will happen So if I were you Right now If you don't want it to happen
Starting point is 01:19:31 In like the next year or so I throw that shit Throw that stuff out Your weirdo memorabilia addiction is going to ruin your sex addiction. Which one would you rather have? Which one's more fun for you? Writing in your diary or fucking pregnant chicks?
Starting point is 01:19:50 Fucking pregnant chicks. Okay, so throw your diary out, okay? With your little names and your prices that you're paying. It's so weird. You want to hear another thing? I also have a bag of panties. Oh, my God. Are you serious?
Starting point is 01:20:06 Where do you keep the bag of? of panties. In the closet underneath a bunch of shit. Oh my God, in your closet. I mean, do you guys live in a place where she has her own closet or do you guys share a closet? No, we have to like share closets. Because there's not a lot of closet space. Of course, I know.
Starting point is 01:20:26 I live in New York, okay? You share a closet space, right? Yeah. Yeah. And you're putting the bag of panties in her closet. Right? Oh my God You want to get caught
Starting point is 01:20:40 No I'm really serious You want to get caught Some part of you Doesn't want to do this anymore and wants to get caught So you know what? Leave the panties there And leave your diary there and please call me the minute you get caught I can't wait for you to get caught It's going to be so interesting
Starting point is 01:20:58 Okay Like for real Like seriously and you're going to get caught soon Okay don't I take my advice back Okay, my advice is keep writing in your diary. Keep collecting the panties. I'm going to send you my diary. I'll show you all my notes.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Oh my God, please send me like a text with like some pictures and shit. Like it's hilarious, okay? Keep that shit up, okay? Because on some level you want to get caught so you could be a better person and fix yourself. And that will help you. You've got to reach a bottom and you got to hit a bottom and that diary is going to help you. And same with the bag of pandies. I don't know which one it's going to be.
Starting point is 01:21:34 I hope it's both. I feel sorry for her when she finds it because it's going to be devastating for her. But, you know, eventually 10 years from now, it'll be the best thing that ever happened to both of you. Yeah. Yeah, if we fast forward the story, you know, because stuff like, you need to be, listen, you need to be taken down. You need to fix this part of you. I'm not saying you need to be monogamous for the rest of your life, but you're an extreme and it's something's wrong, you know. And hopefully one day you will crash and burn and you'll come out of it and maybe you'll do the right thing and you'll be a different person.
Starting point is 01:22:04 because I think if you rehabilitated yourself, you would be happier in a different way and you'd get off in a different way. Maybe, I don't know. But all I know is that I can't wait until you actually do get caught and I want you to call in let me know. But if anything, you know, before that happens
Starting point is 01:22:24 because it's probably not going to happen next week or anything, I don't predict that. We'll have you back on because I want to hear more of your stories. I feel like, you know, there's just so much more going on with you and you work at one o'clock in morning so we'll do another podcast at one o'clock of the morning sometime soon all right okay i'm sorry all right nate we called you nate once this but i think that's what was my made-up name for you all right nate thanks for calling in and i'll talk to you soon all right thank you happy to be on yeah cool send me those pictures of your diary okay all right bye
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