Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 052 - Mike Watches his Girlfriend Penelope Have Sex with Other Guys

Episode Date: December 15, 2014

Mike has been dating his girlfrined Penelope for a couple of years and they've definitely had their ups and downs. Penelope drinks way too much and has cheated on Mike while she's been totally blacked out. They broke up but eventually got back together and that's when Mike brought up the topic of watching her have sex with another guy. She was into it and they eventually found someone and had a threesome. What went down and how did it turn out? Listen in for the all the details. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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life that you have, you could call in. If you want to brag about all your sexual escapade, that's cool too. I just like for people to call in and be extremely honest about things that most people aren't extremely honest about. And that typically seems to always be revolve around SEX. For some pee reason, people have a problem talking about sex. I personally like it as my favorite topic of conversation, and probably because nobody else likes to talk about. it. I just think it's interesting because it's taboo or maybe I don't know why I think it's interesting. It's like, but it is. And the guy who's calling in today listens to the show and he listens to John episodes. John's actually calling in soon again. So we're going to have another

episode with him. But this guy says that he really cuckled with his life, with his girlfriend, not his wife. His name is Mike. Her name is Penelope. By the way, a lot of people call me Penelope. that was like my fake nickname with feeble i love the name penelope penelope pit stop somebody said i reminded them of penelope that was like a cartoon character that put on a lot of lipstick supposedly anyway um this is a guy named mike he's 29 i think his girlfriend penelope is 25 they've had a very tumultuous relationship i think she's a boozy damaged broad who uh fucks other guys in front of him is that what culling is all about. I don't really know that we're, I don't even know if I'm saying the word right.

Um, but he uses it as, uh, he uses it as a subject line, I think. Yeah, a real cuckold. Um, I guess that's when you watch a girl fuck somebody else, I'm assuming. I didn't Google because I just didn't feel like it. Um, and I figure I'll just get the scoop from him. But him and his girl have been screwing other guys. Um, and I think it's not working out or it is. I don't really know. That's what we're going to talk to him about. Um, and I'll be right back on with Mike. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Directly anonymous. Hi.

Hi, Kathy. Mike, how are you? So, I didn't read your whole email to my listeners, and it's just going to be me and you on the call. I don't have a co-host with me today. But I still don't, I don't know why I have a mental block for what cuck holding is. Are I even saying it, right? Does that just mean you let your girls fuck other guys? Like, what is the actual definition of that word?

I think I don't think there's a better word for it. I think the term that's used is actually meant so people who like to be degraded about it and stuff. That's not really me. I'm not into that. I think maybe a more appropriate word would be wife sharing, even though she's not my wife. She's my girlfriend. Right, wife swapping. Yeah, I think cuckold is more of like, oh, I'm cooking your girl and you're a small penis loser and all that stuff, which I'm not really into.

plenty of people are i mean if you if you look it up online that's what you know most of the stuff you're going to find is all about and so who's into the who's in the cuckolding experience who's into who's getting turned on the person with a small penis is like oh i'm this is so hot they're making fun of me and then the person making like is that guy getting turned on by it um the guy who's screwing the wife or no the guy who's being uh i guess degraded right he must be getting turned on by that right I think so. I mean, most of what I read is about that.

I'm assuming if that's what the people are into, that's what they want to read. That's what they want to see. That's kind of what gets their rocks off. But that's not you. No, no. I think, I wouldn't say a swinger. I think wife sharing seems pretty fair. It is more what I'm into.

Swinging, though. Is it swinging? Would you say it's like swinging? No, because I don't have much of a desire to sleep with other women. I don't know. I mean, you're like John, kind of,

right? So let's start with, like, you're dating this girl for three years, right? You're calling her Penelope.

By the way, that used to be my fake name. I have a friend who always would call me Penelope for some reason. I like that name. It's cute. Yes.

So Penelope is your girlfriend, right? Correct. We had a really rocky relationship. A lot of drinking, a lot of booze, a lot of partying. It really wasn't good.

You're 29, she's 25? Sorry, I just want to get all your back, sorry. Flip it, flip it, yeah. She's 29, you're 25? Correct. Okay, so you're dating an older girl. Yes. She had a real, a real rough life, and we met at work, and, you know, I just, I really fell for her.

I really liked her, and we weren't into this before, and, you know, a lot of drinking, a lot of partying. And then one night, November, a couple years ago, she goes out with her friend. I have to work in the morning. And I'm not, you know, I'm not jealous. I'm not that guy or anything like that. You guys look together? No, we didn't at the time. We do now.

Okay. So she goes out with her friend. Has a good time. I assume they come home. Now, mind you, I'm in bed. I don't know. I don't know what timelines. I just know what happened at night.

Um, they, so sometime between the time they got home and the time he went to bed, she took my car, went back out to a bar, got completely shit-faced. Um, a guy took her home and fucked her in, in, you know, with me five feet away in the bedroom. In your bedroom with, while you were there sleeping? Yeah, well, I was asleep. She was, they were in the living room. Okay, right, right. Okay. So literally like right outside your, you're, door practically. Exactly. How do you know? Now, go ahead.

How did you know she fucked him if you were sleeping? So I wake up the next morning, getting ready for work, and she passed out on the couch naked, which isn't that weird for her. I mean, we both sleep naked. So I'm thinking, oh, whatever, you know, she just passed out, but I see him on the ground. And I'm thinking, oh, that's not cool. So I wake her up and I'm like, what the fuck? and she's like, talk to the roommate or her friend about it. They were roommates. He's her gay best friend.

So, and he's cool. But that's not the guy she fucked, the gay guy, right? No, no. It's someone else. I never met him. Right. So she's like, whatever, just talk to him, whatever, whatever. So I leave a bee.

I have to go to work. So I shower, I do my thing. As I go out the door, I keys to there, but my car's not. So I'm like, oh, motherfucker, what's going on? So I wake her back up and she's like, I have no idea. Fucking I don't know what's going on. So I wake the roommate up. He brings me to the nearest bar and sure enough my car's there.

Wait, who's car? They drive and you drive in his car to the bar and see that your car's there? Yeah, no, he drove me there. Like I woke him up and I'm like, man, can you like help me try? Because I'm not going to call the cops right away because I have a pretty good idea of what happened at this point. Right, because she's already a, you know that this girl. been dating her for a while already at that point and you know she's kind of like a train rack. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

So all that kind of blew up in our face and I'm like, fuck you, I'm never talking to you again, just back together. So I cool down a few days later we talk and we try to patch it up and it was a real rocking couple months. Right before. But wait, wait, wait, you got to stop right there. Okay, hold on one second. Did the gay guy rat her out and say that she fucked another guy or did he try and like keep that on the down? though like did was that ever did it ever come out he no he had no idea he had gone home and gone to bed she took my car after he after he went to bed right he didn't take and so he was like that's not

mine when i asked him about it he said it wasn't his so then you know i know it wasn't mine and i know it's not his so it can only be one other first and then did she explain the story when you when you got home she just says she's blacked out and she doesn't remember Well, I was a blackout drunk So blacked out doesn't I mean when you're blacked out you really don't remember It's not like bullshit No and I

I'm you know the more The more Not to skip ahead We went to therapy She went to therapy Talked a lot about this stuff And then I went to a few sessions And a lot of this stuff came up

So that makes sense You know I wasn't buying it then Yeah people don't buy I think there was like this one I don't know if remember the news story Where the girl's husband like on their I think it was like their honeymoon. This poor girl's husband, like, fell overboard and died.

And she has, like, no memory of what happened that night? And I think she was, like, on Oprah. And even Oprah is like, what do you mean you don't remember? Like, the whole audience is, like, what do you mean? It's like, duh, when people black out, they really don't remember. And you could be walking and talking and you look fine. But, and you don't, like, it's very different than stumbling drunk. You know what I mean?

You could, people could be drunk and totally be walking and talking and seem, okay, but drunk, and be completely blacked out and not remember. one thing. It's not like you're falling on the floor puking because I mean, I was a professional blackout drinker swine now. Anyway, go on. Yeah. And I mean, that's not the first. I mean, we've had nights where she like, she like, what did we do last night? I'm like, we had sex for two hours. You don't remember? She's like, no, was it good? I was like, yeah. She's like, oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah. Again, you know, kind of, kind of, in the heat of the moment, I didn't believe her, but looking back at it. So, you know, we talked about it. And, you know, we talked about

I wasn't too happy, but we had a rough couple months, and it was like, you know, well, you're not drinking anymore, da, da, da, da, da. She's like, oh, I'm going to fucking drink what I want to. I'm going to grow up, this, that the other. But were you devastated that she fucked another guy? I was, I was pissed off. But I, you know, no. Turned on to? No, no, not yet.

No, not yet. I was just pissed. And I was just kind of like, whatever, you know, it's in the past. Let's move on. I do love her. And then the drinking started again. And then the same behavior that had really, you know, hurt me and hurt us came back. Is she, you know, just controlling.

She was really jealous. She was kind of crazy like when girls would come on TV. It's like, are you looking at them? Do they turn you on? It was just a mess. It was just a fucking. Let me ask you this on a scale of one to ten. First of all, what does she look like?

Is she really hot? Like, what's her deal as far as looks? I think she's, I think she's hot. She's not fat by any. I mean, all girls think, or most girls think they're that. She's not, Chatho. She's got, you know, a flat stomach. She's got nice curves.

I mean, nice boobs. Her ass is, I like it. She doesn't, she's not a fan of it. Her what? But her ass. Oh, her ass. Every girl thinks her ass is too big, but they don't understand, like, big asses are good. Like, a lot of girls are horrified by her their asses because they, oh, she's got a small ass?

She doesn't think it's too big. Oh. Yeah, no. She just thinks it's, like, weirdly shaped. Is it weirdly shaped? No. No, I think it's sexy. Okay.

Yeah, and I mean, I'm, you know, I'm not, so, and again, I'm, I don't, I'm not going to bring him up a whole lot. I don't, like, John is what got me into your podcast, but I don't really buy the whole story, but it's beyond the point. You don't buy his stories? A lot of people write in and say that, by the way, just so you know. Yeah, it's fucking, like, really a fucking gladiator outfit, like, what is it? Yeah, it's, that's a little too much for me. But, again, I'm not going to go down that road. I just, you know, I think she's sexy.

But to what I brought him up for, I don't like worship the ground she walked on or anything. I think she's a very pretty girl. I'm obviously attracted to her, but it would be like, you know, she's not, you know, she's not particularly tall and she's not like, you know, a model. She doesn't have a model body who does, but that's what it was. And she was just, she was crazy jealous and a lot of it came, you know, with the drinking and all that stuff. Of course, because you said she grew up, she had a very bad, like, difficult childhood, right? Which makes her kind of crazy. And alcohol is just going to fuel all that.

And then the jealousy that's all very typical with that kind of personality type as a woman. You know what I mean? That all comes with that, you know, that package. Exactly. And you must be one of those guys that like to save those girls. I find that, you know, those kind of women only last in relationships with a certain type of guy. And that type of guy is somebody like you because, hey, you're not even looking to fuck other people. and she fucked other people.

Like that there's something about you that probably somehow likes to save somebody or you have that quality because that's the kind of men that wind up with the girls like this and really love them. You know, because a lot of guys wouldn't respect them. You know what I mean? A lot of other men would not tolerate it. Their egos would be in the way.

You don't mean. They think she's a whore. And you're like, that's your girl and you like try to protect her. So you have like that savior thing in you, kind of. I mean, have you dated messes before? Nope. Really?

She's your first. and you're hooked right you didn't even realize it was your thing yeah it's crazy but you know I woke up one morning after a giant fight I was just like honestly

I can't be able to be able to be more so I got out of work that day and I ended it essentially I was like I'm fucking done I'm walking away this this didn't change like you said it was going to after what happened I'm done so walked out you know we talked a little bit

just as far as like the separation of, you know, getting my stuff back and, you know, giving her stuff back and, you know, just, you know, straightening, you know, the odds and then that happened in a breakup, just straightening that stuff out. And then we didn't really talk for two and a half, three months. Was that your longest separation up to that point? Yeah. Yeah, definitely. And then all of a sudden I get a phone call one day and it's from her. I never deleted her number. We didn't talk, but I just never deleted the number.

And I let it go to voicemail and I pick it up or I listen to the voicemail. It's like, hey, I just wanted to talk. You need to me and you get this. So I called her back and we chitchatted and she pretty much said, listen, I've been going to therapy. I've been going since we broke up. My doctor thinks it would be really beneficial to my recovery. If you could come, I totally understand if you don't want to because of how I treated you and everything. And I'm like, wow, she sounds really good right now.

That's shocking to me. I was like, sure, I'll go. Was she ever in therapy before or was this something new for her? No, never. Okay, that's good. This is brand new. Yeah, so, and she was going weekly. So I went, we talked, and then I brought her home that night and I didn't talk to her again until she texted me.

And she was like, hey, you know, my therapist asked her. you were coming again. She thinks it would be a good, you know, very helpful. So I was like, okay. So the next time I went, you know, we talked more and more and more, and she really opened up and I opened up and I ended up bringing her home that night. We talked and we didn't really do anything since the goal. It was just like talking and everything and I ended up going home. And this went on for probably about a month and a half and then we slept together one night. and I stayed there and then that just kind of was like

all right well how do you I mean how do you deal like I don't know normally like when couples break up like that's the thing that always gets you back together is you can't help but not have sex with each other like you would go after being broken up for two now

like all that time no sex you guys didn't fool around at all no not us I mean she had a guy who actually turned out to be the guy an hour three so turned out to be

yeah exactly and then I had a girl who I saw for a little bit had sex with sometimes that was it

right okay so it wasn't like we weren't getting any but we just weren't with each other and I mean I was just

a part of me I think was like oh well maybe she's actually making a change so maybe I won't I didn't want to dive right into

you know trying to get with her that night because I didn't want that to hurt her therapy and Right. So you guys didn't have sex for about a month and a half. And so now you, and then you wound up sleeping with each other, right? That's what happened?

Correct. Yep, exactly. Okay. Go on. So we, after that, that was kind of us just now we're back together. That's just what it's going to be. And, you know, it wasn't, we didn't go right back in the way, you know, oh, I'm staying over here every night. Like, we had our own lives at the other. And she openly told me, I mean, the guy who she found, it was kind of weird, he looked like me. So that was a little weird.

So the other guy, she was dating while you guys were separated. Yeah. just like me. It was really weird. The girl I was like, it wasn't completely opposite of her, but she was different. But the girl, the guy she picked was just like me was really weird. Right. Was he younger than her too? Does she just like younger guys? Yeah. No. Well, I don't, I mean, she dated an older guy when she was having all her problems. So maybe. She's never really expressed like a turn on or anything by an older guy.

Right. But I think that that relationship just kind of happened. I just, I don't think she really has a preference. I think it's more of, you know, I think it's the build more she likes the taller white guys. Right. She is a shorter Hispanic girl. Not shorter. She's probably average type of a girl.

I'm 6'2 for instance. And, you know, the guy she was dating was thinner than me, but. He was just about my height. Right. So how does he come into the picture? They knew each other from work. I didn't work there anymore. I hadn't worked there for about a year.

But how does she say get him involved with you? Like how does it come up that you guys start to get involved with, you know, other people sexually? Because that's ultimately what happens, right? Yeah. So we got back together and we're talking and, you know, she's not really drinking. and the relationship's going really good. So that's where the clock were, we do drink one night. We just get some beers just so you're, I mean,

she used to like kill like a three-quarterlyer bottle of tequila every night. Right. Yeah, so she was pounding it. So, you know, three beers, it isn't a whole lot. It'll get you a little loosey-goosey if you hadn't drank in months, but you're not, you know, you're not tanked or anything. So, you know, we have a few beers and start talking, and I just kind of dropped it on her. For whatever reason, when we had broken up, I found out about the whole life-sharing cook-old thing,

and it really turned me on, and that was the porn I watched and everything. And I just kind of dropped that out there one night. I was just like, we were drinking, and I was like, you know what? I'm just going to say it. And initially she was like, that's crazy, da-da-da-da-da-da. and I think it's because maybe she thought I was testing her because of what it happened. I don't know. But she's just like, that's crazy.

So we talk, we talk more. I keep talking about that. And eventually she's like, she kind of, you know, fueling the waters a little bit. She's like, oh, I can see how that would be fun. So you guys were drunk when you were having the conversation about whether. Yes. Right? Correct.

Okay. So, and I just kind of dropped it because we. It was just like a, you know. But she was kind of acting like she might be into it. Like she was kind of feeling you out. You were kind of like, did you hear a podcast that I had recently with a guy that wanted to see his girl, fuck other guys? And we talked about this whole thing. Like he just didn't know how to broach it without her maybe freaking out.

You know what I mean? But I think really the best way is if you're really drunk, right? Exactly. And, you know, we were drinking. And it just kind of came out. I was just like, drop it. Right. And that did it.

So. She was into it. Yeah, well, no, not at first. She might have been, I don't know, she says it in. Either way, after a couple weeks of talking about it more, she was. Right. So we went out and she didn't like anyone. You know, we tried a couple times.

So she decided, but the whole thing, were you guys setting it up where you wouldn't, like, it's like sort of the John thing. I know you say he's making it up, but it's sort of this John thing where you guys are going out to find a guy that she's going to have sex with. You're not going to be involved, right? You're just going to watch? Correct. Right. That's what you guys are setting up.

So you goes, and she's into it eventually. She becomes into it. Correct. Right. And you, do you want to fuck her too? Or are you just going to be on the sidelines? originally just a side line okay so you guys go out eventually that's right i don't know what that means originally that means maybe you eventually get involved so but you'll let you'll let me know that as

you goes on so then you decide to um so you go out looking for a stranger correct okay and what happens uh she didn't like anyone nothing really tickled with fancy okay um so we talk a lot more talk a lot and eventually i bring it off on my bullet about him? Maybe, no, maybe. Very unassertive. So I tell her, just

let's see what happens. So she just, I don't, I never saw the conversation. I don't know how it rolled out, but eventually he said yes. But when you say what about him, who's him? The guy she met at work. Oh, okay. So the other

guy that looked like you? Yeah, After you went out looking for a stranger, you couldn't find it. You said, what about that guy that you were just with? And she said, okay, let me check it out. Yeah, exactly. Okay, cool. Go on. So we just kind of, apparently he was down.

So we felt the waters. She felt it was something she wanted to do. Well, she knew it was something she wanted to do. Right. He was down. So all parties involved, thumbs up. So we set it up one night. He comes over for drinking.

And again, originally it had just been I was going to watch. And he was okay with that. Right. So she got a little too drunk. I was the silver one. I wanted to make sure so I could control the situation. just from, I guess you're right, maybe I do have that kind of savior thing in me. I'm not sure.

But I was, I've always been the one like, if we don't have a plan and people are getting drunk, I'm like, all stay sober at school. And I'm always capable. Especially when she's such a mess. You need, someone needs to take care of the situation. Exactly, exactly. So eventually, excuse me, eventually. Um, eventually it comes down to, um, you know, the night's kind of, kind of getting closer to, you know, it's tense because he, he knows what's going to happen. I know it's, I'm excited for it.

Um, and I fully expected to masturbate the whole time. And that was my plan. Yeah, that was my plan. Um, so it starts, it's going really good. He's, um, a little longer than he looks thin. He's got like a pencil dick. I'm about seven and thick. He was probably seven and a half,

but a lot thinner than me. Oh, that's the worst. Yeah, I know you hate pencil dick. Like pokey, pokey, I call them pokey pokey pokey. I don't know, I don't like it. It's like a probe. I don't know, it's not good. I don't think anyone, who would like it?

Did your girl like it? No. Well, no heat of the moment, it was fine, but she said it was oddly shaped. Right, okay. So, um, so they're going at it, going at it. And then he got,

like performance anxiety he was afraid. He couldn't get it hard. So I said, all right. Because there's a guy that looks just like him sitting across the way.

He was going good for a while. I don't know what happened. Okay. I go, all right. I'll, you know, I'll leave you to be and do your thing.

I'm going to go in the living. So I grab a beer, sit down. I don't turn the TV on. I just listen. I have my phone out, you know, you know,

what people do when they're biting time, just flip them through your phone, check them news, that good stuff. And then I hear it picking up in there, you know, the, the, the moaning, the, you know, the body parts slapping, all that good stuff. So, oh, okay. So I get back in there, and I'm not really no, well, I'm sure I'm noticed, but they're, you know, I'm not greeted or anything like that. And they're just going at it, going at it, going at it. And he gets soft again. I'm like, all right, well. And then she suggests, she goes, well, why don't you try? Maybe with,

you know, you not watching, you participating, maybe. Maybe. that I'll make it easier. Okay. So, you know, I'm already horny as fuck. So I, you know, I dive in and we all had a pretty good time at first time. I would say it was a success. Do you do anything with the guy? No, no, no, no, no.

I have absolutely no day tendencies. Right. Okay. And he doesn't either. It's not like he's bummed out that I'm not. Right. So all that ends well. Have a great time.

her big one and the whole thing was for us to come on her face. We did. We blew on our face and she was so happy about that. Oh, I've had jizz polls about that. I just, she likes to be jizzed on the face. And you like jizzing on faces? No, I never really did before, but kind of the whole, like we had talked about it. And the whole thing, she was like, yeah, it'd be really hot.

So we did. Uh-huh. So that's that. It's over. I had a great time. Um, our sex life is crazy. We're having like four or five times a night we're having sex. Like waking up at three in the morning when I have to work at six and we're fucking like rabbits.

Um, so we're having a really good time, but probably about a week and a half goes by. And I'm like, have you talked to them? And yeah, you know, we talk, we talk. I'm like, well, would he be down for it again? He said, sure, definitely. And I said, well, am I going to watch or am I going to join in? She's like, why don't you just join in just to, you know, make it easier. Okay, that's fine. So again, it's pretty much repeated the first time. This time

we actually, we both, we didn't use rubbers. I'd never used the rubber with her after like the first year of dating. And the new boy was somewhat undamaged good. He had only been with one girl, so she felt pretty safe. They were pretty good friends. So we both came in her. It was really hot. And that was more of my want. That was something I was like, you know, can we do it like this? The time she's like, yeah, for sure. So he came in her first, then I came in her after. And it was really hot. Right. So the turn on is that like you're in there and there's the other common there. That whole thing, right? Yeah, it was just, I don't know. It was, you know, you see it in porn and it's hot. So you want to do it. Right. Um, so. So.

I'm so you know we we all have a great time all parties involved and you know we're talking and you know think it's going to happen again but we we kind of I'm sitting there I'm at work and it's on my mind I'm thinking about it thinking about it and I go to myself there's got to be a way to get my fantasy you know what I want it um you know to watch to see it to do this what's your fantasy yeah that's what I want it so I keep thinking of it. I keep thinking of it. I keep thinking and I go, oh, perfect. I know exactly what I'm going to do. I'm going to let those two fuck without me. Right. We, you know, after the breakup, I think she, you know, in my head I'm telling myself this. And, you know, I'm talking to her on it. She's agreeing.

She realized, you know, how much she really did love me and what she would do to make me happy and what I've done already and what I would continue to do to make her happy and all that this stuff and we're really honest with each other and all that stuff. So I'm thinking, all right, great, why don't you two? And like I said, we had gone from like being in a three-year relationship to being broken up for a couple months. But when we went back to it, it wasn't like, you know, you know, I pretty much lived there kind of thing. It was like, you know, I stayed over most nights and I went back to my place the other nights and, you know, I had my friends and she had her friends. And, you know, we did a lot of separate things. We did some together things. But it was

It was more of like a love, but in like a slower relationship because we wanted to rebuild that trust. We wanted to get back to, you know, that really good foundation of, you know, when you're with someone that long, you know, I know you're not whole, you know, oh, I don't want to get married. I don't think you want to get married. But, you know, when you're with someone, you tend to, you know, if you're with someone for like four years, you have more friends together, you have more, you know, you do things together, all that good stuff. Totally. So she had plenty of time where I wasn't there. be worked opposite schedules that doesn't help i was working um till 4 30 she was going in at 5 i'm in bed by the time she gets out all that good stuff so i'm like all right here's what we're going to do

um he can have that you whenever you want to have him i request two things one i'm told about it in detail in juicy juicy detail and in two you take a few pictures for me not anything crazy It doesn't have to be videos. I just want to see the pictures. Right. Okay. Cool. Awesome.

I'm down, he's down, she's down. Right. We're having a great time. I'm getting details. I got one picture. Getting a lot of details. And then all of a sudden it's like they stop and she's like complaining about them a little. And she just gets really weird about the whole thing very suddenly.

And I never really figured out why. And I'm like, well, what's going on? You know, I thought everything was going to her. She's like, oh, it is. He's, you know, he's busy this, that the other. Well, fast forward a few days. And there's a mark on her tit that wasn't from me. I know who it's from.

And I asked, you know, have you guys, you know, been together? No. And I'm like, well, then what's this from? And she's like, all right, we have. I'm sorry I didn't tell you. I, you know, I know you want pictures. and I'm just so shy and it's weird and I feel really uncomfortable doing it

and this, that the other. And like all of a sudden, she's just very against it. And I'm like, okay, well, that, you know. She's very against what? The whole idea of sleeping with him. Even though she's doing it behind your back? Well, she did it once.

And I believe that. And I'll kind of go into why I believe that. Yeah. She did it once. Okay. And I'm like, well, you know, why? Like what, what, it went from so good to so bad? What happened?

And she's just like, he got weird. And, like, he kind of apologized when we were cool. And we had sex again. And then he got weird again. And I just didn't want anything to do it. And I'm like, what do you mean? It got weird. He told me he wanted to be with me.

And I'm like, well, he is with you. And she's like, no, no, be with me. And I'm like, oh. Okay. Meaning what, date her? Yeah, he fell for her. Oh. And she's like, she's like, I'm dedicated to you and I didn't want you to get mad and I just didn't want to do anything more with him.

Like I felt like he played me. We had sex after I thought he made off with me and, you know, he does it right after. And I'm like, oh, good Lord. So the guy pushed out on me essentially. Right. Right. You were like the girl in the relationship. Yeah.

So that kind of put the kibosh on that. And I was really bummed out because I, it was so hot. I mean, I was like, I mean, constant boners. It was like jerking off all the time. Like, I would come late four times a day. I'd jerk off twice and then I'd go fucker twice. It was awesome. Right.

Because that's like the beginning of something so new. It's like, you know, because it's something you never did before with anyone else, right? Yeah. And it was awesome. And fast forward to now. Oh, no, sorry, not quite. So I kind of just let it be. I'm like, all right, I'm not going to push it.

She's clearly, you know, disheveled by this. So I'll just, you know, the waters kind of rest and let it be. Well, one thing led to another, you know, busy couple months. I'd say probably about three months. And then all of a sudden, you know, I bring it up again. And she's really against her. She's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And it's not what I'm saying, you know, just go find someone.

Right. No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't want to do that anymore. I love you. That's enough. And I'm like, I love you, too. And it's not about that. It's about, you know, this is really hot for me.

I want to do this. Do this. And that was that. And, you know, she was really against us. So I would let it go for a little bit. And I'd bring it up. I'd let it go, bring it up, put it go to go. So I'd say, we're probably talking about, like, March of this year by this point.

And I move in and I bring it up one more time. And she's like, no, I'm not into that anymore. I'm done. Okay, that's fine. So I kind of just back burner it. And something, I had a dream, something just brought it up, and it was just me and another guy just pounding a ladder. And I was like, oh, this is so hot. And I woke up, you know, so fucking horny.

And that's all I've been doing for like three weeks now. That's actually how I found out about your podcast was I'm looking, you know, I'm trying to, I'm reading stuff about it. I'm just kind of taking everything I can about it because it's such a turn-on for me. Right. Right. You can't get it out of your head. This is like what now, what you're into. Right.

How are you ever going to go back to having a normal relationship with someone where that doesn't fuck a lot of other guys in front of you? I mean, you know, we've always had a great sex life. Yeah, but now this is what gets you horny. No, I mean, that's not the only thing. I mean, that gets you like. It's like the greatest thing ever, no. I'm just saying like, yeah, in a good way, not a bad way.

Yeah, no, I love it. Like, it's such a turn-on. it's just not something she's into and I'm bummed out about it and I've expressed that to her and she just kind of leaves it be and like I said I haven't brought it out for a while you what because she was just I haven't brought it up for a while right just kind of like she kind of put the kibosh on it but like I said about three weeks ago I had a dream and I hardly ever remembered dreams so on top of the hardly ever remembering dreams it was that it wasn't like oh you know the time my grandmother took me to the fair around I was for

right you're right so I'm like oh god I want it again um so I've just been taking even like I said I found your podcast and I started um you know listening to the John stuff he's obsessed with it um well but no you know what so it's so weird is people I could look at all the statistics you know of all my episodes and the John episodes are the most downloaded people must be like like it's very odd to me that men want to see, because I know a lot of guys that would never want to see their girl, fuck another guy.

Right? But there are a lot of guys that must be into it even if it's just a fantasy because so many people find my John podcast and it has to be the same way you found it, right? You weren't listening to my podcast for all the other things. You were like Googling to find this cuck holding thing or whatever

like this exact scenario, right? And that's how probably the other people that aren't subscribed, my podcast find it. So there must be so many guys that are into this type of thing. And I think a lot of them just don't know how to bring it up. I mean... Yes, because most girls would slap you in the face. Most girls would not be into it. But if you have a girl like Penelope, who's kind of a mess and who's a crazy drunk and who's a blackout drinker and who acts out sexually and with alcohol, you know, that's like,

you know, that's the girl that's not going to get mad at you if you ask her. do you know what I mean like she didn't get mad at you and she actually was into it and tried it you know for a little while I had a caller recently who wanted this is his big fantasy I mean he just he's really into it he actually what he's done to get his fantasy and get his rocks off is he's done it with other people do you understand he's never he doesn't know how to broach the subject in his own relationship because he has a good relationship but what he does is he like fucks other people and he fucks other guy's girlfriends I think that's what his deal was

you know what I mean that's how he's had it that way you know but he wants to do it with his girl yeah you ever think you're doing it that way or no I really don't have any interest of a stranger and a girl right yeah yeah I just it has to be your girl like that's the fantasy yeah and I don't know

I mean I love her to death I mean we're you know I think again, I know you're not into the whole it's unnatural to be with one person but I don't see myself with anyone else. For 30 years. I don't think it's a natural for five or ten years. Yeah, no, and I think that's

the kind of the point we're both at. And I think that's probably part of it with her. I think she's afraid. But she's especially like, oh, no, now this is like a ticket for you to cheat on me. And I'm like, but it's not like, that's not what I want to do. What I'm getting out of this is what you're doing.

That's what, you know, it's, that's the turn on for me it's like watching porn right it's not like you're asking you to see her I think she should be more worried if you were asking you to see her with other women right because then that might be like you're sort of craving other women but you're really not you really want her to be

the only woman right it's much more about that thing yeah and it's you know it's about I think it's about having it in front of me having it like a live show I think it's about her I think it's about all that and

I just can't get that message through to her because it's, you know, oh, no, you want to take it to cheat on me? I really don't. I mean, if I wanted to cheat on you, I wouldn't have never gotten back with you. I would have just said, you know what, I'm happy with other women, not you, don't talk to me again. Right, and what about Penelope with her little cheating ways? Okay, Penelope fucked another guy while you were sleeping, and she fucked other guys in front of you. She fucked that guy in front of you, right?

So she's like, I mean, you know, that's a little double standard. But a lot of times that's the ones that are the most paranoid. It's like really it's from their own distrust of themselves. Yeah, and I think that's exactly where it comes from. And she and I, but, you know, that's not, I've never cheated on, I mean, I'm never cheated on a girl. It doesn't, I mean, if I don't want to be with you, I'm just going to tell you, I don't, I'm not a feeling to the whole minding thing. I'm not the, I don't know. I'm just.

John's the same way, by the way. John says I don't buy his stories but it's the same thing he's not into other women but he likes to watch his woman fuck other guys it's something about that scenario

like I said I know a lot of guys that would never be into that right but I know there must be a lot of guys that really are and like you said it can't be a stranger right it's my episode number 47 Jay is dying to watch his girlfriend that guy

he you know he he has done it with other couples just because he likes the whole man man woman thing you know and he said his hottest vision was one time I think he was like underneath the woman and she was getting fucked in the

ass by another guy and he just saw that vision you know what I mean like right up close and that's what he like but he might have had a little gay tendencies kind of I mean do you like stuff like that or is it mostly like you watching or and participating like right after

Is it more like that kind of a thing that you're into? I mean, I would have been, I was fine watching. He was the other guy was the issue. That's why I had to stop watching and get involved because he was the one who was uncomfortable with me watching. Right, but you're happier watching than having to get involved? I mean, I thought it was, I mean, I never got to really watch it, like a whole section.

I watched the first half of one, and then I was just involved in the second one, and then I got pictures after a picture in a couple stories. But what is it that when you're Googling to listen to my thing, right? And other people are obviously doing the same thing, right? What is it in your guy? Because you must be like, you know, you're all probably wired typically the same way, maybe different. Like what is your hottest fantasy in this scenario?

If you had to make, create the John's story that didn't exist, right? Because you believe he's just making it up. Like, what would be the hottest most perfect? If you could control everything and have your girlfriend do exactly what you want, and you could tell like the hottest story of cuckolding or whatever you want to call it what would that be for a guy like you like what are you guys looking for like ultimately is it you know is it to watch and see her screw a guy that you think is great like what would be the perfect scenario for you i think um god i've never really thought of it um how could you not thought of it you probably jerk off and think of this stuff all the time yeah but like the ultimate ultimate that's what i'm saying like what i find really but what do you even just jerked off to in your head about this. Like what is it?

I'm just trying to figure out what it is about the scenario that gets you off. I put myself in their shoes. You know, I kind of pretend that I'm John

and she, well, not really, like I said, I don't believe in. All right. For example, we go out, we go to a hotel room,

she goes downstairs to the bar, finds a couple of guys at a table explains the situation, brings them upstairs, there I am. She has a whole grand old time, and I just sit there watching. Right. Filming, watching.

That's kind of what I would prefer to, yeah. I mean, just for keepsake, but. So you like, right, because you're very visual, because you said before you liked that you wanted pictures the last time, or you like to watch, because you want to play that out again, right, is what you're saying. This Memorial Day, shop one of Avocados' Big Eighty, mattress sales of the year and fall in love with sleep again. At avocado, better sleep starts with better materials.

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So in a weird way, it's somehow it's like almost more erotic to not be having the sex, but imagining that you can have. And it's almost like pining for it from afar than actually doing it because you could be actually fucking her. But there's something hotter about like not fucking her and watching someone else do it and imagining that you're them. Yeah, I think so. I mean, I can kind of, you know, get it whenever I want. Right. because we're together.

Right. So maybe that's what it is. It's a tension. It's like sort of a like some sort of sexual tension that you create for yourself that like maybe creates more excitement. Yeah. Again, I don't really know. I mean, I think if, I mean, when we were doing, when we were living the whole thing out, I never had to watch porn. You know, I was never horny enough where I was like, oh, I need to put on porn because I was getting it.

I was either getting it from her or I was getting the stories of the pictures. I get you go right to those. Right. But, you know, when it doesn't happen, I'm putting myself into the story and, you know, pretending I'm there and just kind of going from there. And you don't want, like, John's scenarios where it's a little bit too far-fetched. You just want straight up, like, you're in a hotel room maybe, and she's, like, screwing. You like more than one guy?

Is that preferable? I mean, shit, if she wants to bring home $7,500, I'll take it. I'm not rich like John. Right. you know, if I'm content with, with, you know, what I said, you know, a hotel and she goes down to the bar and has a great time and brings them a couple friends. Or we go to a bar together and find someone and bring them back to our place or whatever the case may be. I'm not, you know, I don't need, you know, high class escorts and, you know, four black guys and a double mirror room and all that other crap. I don't need all that.

Right. I just need, you know, I need the kind of the basics. And that's what we do with for me. Tell me about the guy, though. Do you care about dick size? Like, I know John has a thing that he likes these, you know, the guys have really big dicks. Like, I think there's something about his wife, like, totally being taken by that kind of a guy. Does dick size matter to you in your fantasy of, like, this situation?

As long as it's good for her. Right. So it's really, you want to see her get turned. turned on by another guy. Yeah, I just want to see her have a good time. I want to hear it. I want to see it. If he can get her off

and get her, you know, go in with five inches, more power to him. If, you know, if he's bigger than me, good for him. It doesn't really matter to me either way. It's more of she getting off is hot for her,

you know, kind of along those lines. And the condom, is a big thing, right? Because if you don't use the condom, you get, like, the cum, and then you get the visual of that sometimes, right? Or just the knowledge that it's in there, and, like, that's, like, exciting to you, right? Well, we would probably use a condom if we picked up a random guy. She felt pretty good about him.

I mean, he had been with, you know, two girls, and I don't think she trusted him. He was very kind of, like, blinders on. like he seemed very sheepish kind of, you know, virginy, but not a virgin, you know what I mean? Yeah. I'm one of those guys kind of, you know, young and awkward and all that good stuff. But the fact that he did have a condom on, like, kind of turned you on, right? No, I thought that was pretty hot, yeah. Right.

But I wouldn't go actively, like, you know, I wouldn't, if we went out, I would definitely. I mean, it's, you know, it's because, you know, I'm having sex with her, too. and, you know, I want her to be safe because I want to keep having sense with her. Right. You know, I don't want her to, you know, get fucking AIDS and die, so I would want her to wear one,

but I wouldn't, you know, like for a friend you could call on at that point, I thought, you know, she felt comfortable with it, and I said, well, it's your call. I mean, whatever you want. Do you have any desire to see her with a woman or is it just strictly men?

I mean, if she wanted to, I'm not, I wouldn't, if, If we were to go out and it was my choice to be a guy every time. But if she's like, well, what about a woman? I would say, sure, you know, whatever kind of floats your boat there. Right. And so at this point, are you kind of fucked because she doesn't want it at all? Are you, like, trying to get her back into it?

Like, what's your deal? I don't, I haven't made the decision if I'm going to bring it back up or not. I mean, she's working now. Maybe I bring it up tonight because I got the balls to talk about it. Right. With someone at least To kind of get it off my chest But I don't know

I mean I'd love to I mean if we don't Then it's you know It's a fantasy forever I guess But how long has it been And why do you think she got turned off to it After doing it for a couple times It wasn't so great for her

Do you know? No I think I think the whole him kind of falling for her thing Just kind of turn the whole idea sour for I mean Personally I think that it was, you know, if we're picking up a random guy,

maybe that has something to do with the fact that we went out like four times and she could find it a random guy that really kind of turned her on that she thought was hot. Right. Why don't you do this? Have you ever said to her like, is there a guy that you know that you're into? Because maybe, because she knew that guy before.

And a lot of girls are wired that way. They're not just, if she's like, you know, that John's, girl has a total type, you know, she's into these big black eyes and he's a white guy. So she just sees one and she's into it. But like your girl might not have a type like that. And a lot of girls aren't wired that way. They're not wired visually where they see a gorgeous guy. They're like, oh, I want to fuck him. You know, so maybe, but they're wired like if they know a guy, you know what I mean. And they like his personality or they think, you know, they eventually think that then they're wired, I want to fuck that guy. So, you know, maybe you need to say to her instead of going out and looking for her. strangers, you know, ask her if there's any guy in her life right now that she's attracted to that she'd like to fuck. And then you can work on that situation because maybe that's what she needs. I didn't think about that. That's a good idea. Thank you. Yeah, because think about it with the other guy. You know what I mean? She knew him. She felt comfortable. She might, you know, she was already with him. You know, he kind of looked like you.

You don't know that, you know, girls always have these little flirtations on the side. Like, you don't know if there's somebody else at work or somebody that she knows. that she's like, oh, maybe, you know what I mean? And so you should work on her that way because obviously she's not the type that's just going to go out and pick up a random stranger. You know, maybe it's a stranger thing

that's getting in the way with you. And maybe she's too afraid to bring it up that she's like likes another guy or whatever because she's so paranoid, you know, because listen, imagine you told her, like if a girl said to a guy like, oh, like, you know, is there anyone you want to fuck? And then if you're like, oh, yeah,

there's like 10 girls at my job that I want to fuck. Like a girl will go mental. So maybe she thinks you would go mental if she told you. I don't know. But, like, maybe you need to bring that up with her. Yeah, I will, I'll give that a shot. If I get the balls to bring it up and I'll give it a shot.

Yeah, just be like, is there anybody that you, maybe, you know who's the best people for girls to sleep with are guys that they used to go out with? Does she have, like, any ex-boyfriends? None that she really talks to. and they all kind of ferned out like we had originally broken up and they were like I was kind of done with her and I mean until she had called me that day about therapy I had no intentions of ever talking to her again

and I think that's kind of I think I'm kind of the alone exception to that because she decided that all right I do need help it's time to make changes she's still in therapy No, she wrapped it up after about six months. Her insurance had run out, actually. Right. But that's a good amount of time. Yeah, and I mean, she really got a handle on her drinking.

You know, we go out places and I'm not like, I don't feel awkward if I, like, look to the left. Right. And there's a girl there out. I'm not like, oh, gosh, she's going to yell at me or anything like that anymore. We're as close to normal as he can be, really. I mean, we're... So everything else in your relationship is actually, like, better than it's ever been.

It's fucking amazing. I'm so happy. The therapy was the key. And we've had, you know, since we got back together through the threesome stuff, the past year and a half, we got actually, it's been about two and a half years now at this point.

But it's just, it's going really well. things going really well. I'm really happy. She's really happy. We're, I mean, we're in a great place. Nothing's really ever slowed us down. We don't fight a whole lot anymore. I mean, we fight normally. That's how I say it's weird because we fight

normally now instead of all the time like we used to. And that's nice. That's a nice touch. Right. Yeah. So it sounds like, well, first of all, I don't even know if you called it because you had a problem. It was more like you just wanted to talk about this scene, right? Like, I mean,

do you have a problem or you feel like you're kind of fucked because she doesn't want to do it anymore and you got kind of into it or are you okay to just let it sort of drop off I mean I wouldn't you know cheat on her or dump her if we weren't doing it I'd be

I'd be you know not upset I don't know what's disappointed I guess would be the right word because I want it I mean it's what I want for sure I think you have to try the different you have to try a different angle yeah

I'll have to give that a shot Yeah, try the different angle because maybe the going out and meeting guys isn't working for her. And you said that she like kind of stopped drinking. She's not drinking as much. Is that, is that? Was she drinking when you guys were doing it or that happened after even after therapy? I forget. No, she would, she drinks just not like she used to.

The first night we did it, she drank a little too much. Right. But the second time we did it, she didn't drink at all. Right. So it's not like the alcohol is slipping. off and now she's not like into doing these illicit things anymore. Exactly. It's, I think the first night was nervous more than anything.

So she was kind of drinking more. But the second night she felt comfortable and the drinking was not there. Right. Well, listen, it sounds like you're in a perfect situation. You're better off than my guy, episode number 47, who could never broach it. His girl is pretty normal and they have a regular relation. You know what I mean? You know, he's not, you know, he's, but he's really.

wants to do it with her and he's like you he would never cheat on her he's not looking for and if it doesn't happen he's fine with staying with his girl except he just has this thing that he'd like to do that would be really great and he just wishes he could sort of bring it into his relationship you know yeah and you know hopefully i can too well you did a little bit that's why i'm saying you're doing better than my other guy and maybe if john's lying you're doing better than him too because maybe I'm going to doubt I didn't know 47

was about this too so I want to make sure I download that one I'll get off the ball he has a lot of stories I mean he does these really he he's a guy that has really sort of taken that fantasy of his

and taken into the next level because he hasn't been able to live it out in his relationships he's lived it out in other people's relationships he's really into just like I guess maybe it's like the threesome experience but he so he was doing it with couples that he met on Craigslist but he's just trying to bring it into like I said his relationship too

so he's a little opposite you but his problem was like can I bring that up and can I get her into it you know and let her or will she freak out if she knows what he's done on the side you've never done this before right this is your first experience correct right so you really have to um you know you're you kind of hit the jackpot because she was into it once and I think if someone's done it once and twice, you know, you have a good chance of her getting into it again. Maybe give her a little time and then bring it up in a different way and try and make that shit happen. Just don't cut her off a booze totally or else it's never going to happen.

Let her keep drinking a little bit. No, and, you know, it was really, it was before all the therapy that I put in a drinking rule in. So I think the therapy helped both of us. And, you know, here we are. Right. And now you're dating how long now, three years or four years? we were together for three broke up for six and now we've been together for another two and a half so we're going on almost six years oh wow and you're living together now right

yes yep yeah so listen your relationship is pretty solid to have been able to go through her cheating on you with a guy in the other room her blackout shit therapy you guys fucking other guys in it not working out for her and you guys are still together so you're a pretty solid couple considering right

I mean a lot of people would break up because of one of those things. A lot of relationships break up because of things that are halfway as not so bad as that. I mean, a lot of people would break up if they knew that their girlfriend fucked another guy. But you guys have been through that all and like I said, brought other people. I have friends that did threesomes with women and it broke up their relationship with their girls. And a lot of times that's like the ending point. And you guys have even done that with another guy and have made it through. So you guys are doing pretty good. Yeah, thank you.

You know, I mean, you know, I don't not believe in marriage. I mean, I believe in commitment and relationships. Do I need to the whole marriage thing is like, do you have to get married? No, but if you want to, like, why not? If you have a horse and buggy at your wedding, I'm going to think you're fucking imbecile. But that's, I'm like, what's like, you know, this is like 2014. There's no horse and buggy. But, you know, I think it's, I think you guys are doing great.

I just hope that you get her down for it again in the future. And I think you probably will be able to. You just got to figure out the right situation for Penelope. Well, maybe I'll broach it tonight and I'll give you an update. Yeah, we love the updates. John's giving us an update. He's calling me Tuesday, so I'm going to air his update next week. So you could listen to that if you want to hear more of his stories.

And yeah, and definitely call back when you get some more of the real deal stories. For sure. All right. Thanks, Mike. Thanks for calling in. All right. Thanks, Kathy. Have a good one.

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