Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 061 - Kevin's Nigerian "Girlfriend" Needs 30k and he's Wondering if he's Being Scammed

Episode Date: February 16, 2015

Kevin met his much younger "girlfriend" on Sugardaddy.com and they've been dating long distance for about 6 years. She recently sent him an email stating that she got deported to Nigeria and needs 30k to get out and he's actually wondering if he's being scammed?! Sound unbelievable? It does but for some reason, even though he hasn't actually seen her for over 2 years, Kevin is still wondering if he should believe her. Tune in to hear how they met, how much money he's given her so far, what he gets out of it and a whole lot more.    **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Today I have like the greatest call. I talked to a guy named Kevin. He wrote me an email that, I mean, was straight up like something that you just, like, you know, you hear about, we've all heard about the whole thing. We've heard this sort of story, but we, I don't believe that it's true. I thought the guy would be pulling my chain when he called in. But he was the real deal and he had this real issue.

And this is the thing. He says this. He writes me and he said, hey, I have a girlfriend from Philly. She claims she was deported to Nigeria over an assault charge and needs $30,000 to pay a fine and come back to the state. am I being scammed? We've been together for six years, but I haven't seen her in two years. Is this the type of thing you want to talk about on the show? I need advice, please. So I thought, you know, of course I thought, oh yeah, it's a scam. When you hear Nigerian, I need

money and all that stuff, we all know that's a scam. But I thought this guy's probably scamming me because I can't believe that anybody, you know, that speaks English and could write on a computer actually would fall for this, right? Because we all, like, so I'm thinking he's going to be fucking scamming me and he's just going to call in as a joke and tell me this crazy story. But this guy's not a scammer. He's a real guy that is in this real situation. He's had this relationship with this girl for six years. To me, it's like I, like I said, I always thought that I felt like he's going to be scamming me.

But it turns out he's like a real dude with this real problem. And it turns out it's like, you know, bigger than the 30,000 he wants to pay. And he has six years of like sort of stuff that goes that's gone down with her. And he discusses it all. And it's all fascinating. It's like, you know, a dateline episode. know on air. So I'll be right back on with Kevin. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well,

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or the host of the show I'm good thank you so okay I don't know whether I could believe your email because the whole Nigerian thing is always such a fucking scam right

basically you wrote in saying that you're dating a girl for six years six years right that's correct she is supposedly has been

is in trouble and she's being deported back to Nigeria and she needs $30,000 to get out of it. Supposedly, though, this is the thing that was a little bit like I was like, oh, maybe he, because I'm thinking you're lying to me and you're just like this is a lot like because I can't believe anyone to believe this because this has been on TV a lot about this whole thing being a scam. But you say that you've dated her six years. You haven't seen her in two years, but you actually did meet up with her at some point. Oh yeah, we've been together several times like for a weekend at a time. and a couple of times for a week at a time. Did she have sex with you? Yes.

So where did you meet her? Online. Okay. And then, like, how did the relationship start? Like, you've been dating her for six years. Can you count on your two hands how many times you've actually seen her in person? No, it's more than ten times over six years. Okay.

And then now what's going on? All of a sudden she has this issue and she needs $30,000 from you is what you saying? Yeah, like she was, she was downtown somebody jumped her and she got in the fight. And so she told me she was the charge of the assault. And on the charge, she was, she was supposedly deported. Right. And I said, send me your lawyer's name. Oh, he's not with this case anymore. As well, show me the paperwork where he deported. Or there's no paperwork involved. Okay, first of all, I'm like an avid Judge Judy watcher, like I'm obsessed with Judge Judy. And There's no way, okay?

There's no way that there's no papers, no lawyer. You know what I mean? There's no way there's no documentation. I have to say, I mean, you've been, first of all, let me just get a background on you and on her. Like, how old are you? Yeah. How old are you? 59.

You're 59? 59. 59. And how old is she? Less than that. She's 32. She's 32. Okay.

And you met her. So when you met her, you're in your early 50s and she was in her 20s. That's correct. I was exactly twice her age. She was 26. Right. And did you meet her on Craigslist? Did you meet her on like a legitimate website?

Like a not legitimate, but like you know on a dating website like Match.com or something like that? Or did you meet her like on a Craigslist? It was a legitimate one. It was, well, you know what it was? It was Sugar Daddy. Oh my God. You're so funny. Yeah, it's totally legitimate.

But I mean, you're totally the, you know, the girls that are on there. I mean, come on, sugardady.com. I had this one girlfriend that I knew wanted to go on there. And she met some dude that was like wanting to pay her a lot of money so she could like rub his feet or some shit. I mean, people go on there looking for dudes with cash, right? I mean, that's what it's about. So legitimate, yes, but like a little bit of a red flag in your situation, I would say, oh, yeah. So you made this 20-something year old girl.

Now, on sugardady.com, is it this, I think this is the website where you're actually put in how much you're willing to spend on that girl? Isn't there like a price range sort of like thing? It asks what your net worth is, eh? Yeah, but do they also ask how much you pay for the girl? Like there's some sort of website out there that? No. No?

No, I didn't ask that, no. Okay, what is your salary range? Like, what did you put your salary range as on that site? Half a million to a million. Well, sorry, my net worth is over half a million. Okay, and what do you do? I'm actually retired now, but I was a, I worked in a nuclear plan. I was a technician, eh?

right okay I'm not a doctor or lawyer I'm not a rich guy but you have but you made over half a million is what your network worth as or did you lie oh no I didn't lie no

okay now have you ever been married do you have any kids or any kind of dependence I've been married three times okay and I don't have any kids no oh my God there's so much story here okay first of all the whole Nigerian thing like we have to figure that out okay

I mean it's I don't even I understand it's I understand there's a lot of scams in Nigeria. I do. But I mean, most of times people have met the girl, right? Yeah, but I don't care that you did. Like it doesn't, like, why wouldn't somebody meet you? You know what I mean?

Like, I just feel like it doesn't, yes, a lot of times they don't, they don't meet them. And that's why that was when you said that in the email that you met her, you know, I was like, okay, well, that's a little bit different. Because when you do hear Nigeria and I need this money and I can't get, you know, we've all gotten that email, you know. But I think why wouldn't somebody also just take that scam up a notch and fuck somebody for it? Because that's no different than being an escort, but she could maybe score 30 grand from you. You know what I mean?

She's on sugar daddy.com. Okay. So she's basically looking for some guy, some, you know, she's a young girl. Like, oh, I could get some older dude that has some cash to pay some stuff and all I have to do is have sex with him. You know, is she really good looking? Incredibly gorgeous. Right. She's a model, actually.

Okay. And on a scale of 1 to 10, what do you rate yourself? Okay. I'd be a 5 or 6 probably, eh? Okay. So, I mean, and let's just be honest, okay? I don't know who you are. You don't know who I am.

Okay. What do you think, okay, this is what's so funny to me about dudes, you know? What do you think at 52, 53 years old, you're a 5 or a 6? And what do you think a girl that's 23 that looks like a model is doing with you? Yeah, yeah, I know. She wants you just for your cat. That's correct. I'm aware it out, yeah.

Right, so you don't care. So when she's trying to take it up a notch and she wants more money from you, like I just, I wouldn't, I wouldn't trust it. You just can't. How much money have you given her so far? Like what other sort of,

has she pulled any other kind of like small scams on you to get like money? Have you lent her money in the past? Yeah, yeah. Like one. And she was in a car accident and got sued. So she had 70 bills, right? How much money? money did she get for the car accident and from you?

All of it. How much? All of it, 70 grand. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Stop, Kevin. You're not serious, are you? You gave her 70 grand.

And now you're wondering if you're getting, and now you're wondering if you're getting scammed for 30,000. You should have called me at the 70,000. At least I have, really. I do. But don't you, do you have friends or family or anyone that you discuss this stuff with, please? You know what?

My one sister and my one buddy, because I'm embarrassed by this, really. I realize I've been screwed, eh? I'm embarrassed about this because I realize I've been screwed, eh? Yeah, where are you from? I love your accent. Are you Irish? I'm Irish descent, yeah. Right.

How long you've been in this country for, your whole life? Oh, I'm not in your country. I'm in Canada. Oh, okay. How long you've been in? Oh, okay. So you kind of have like a Canadian accent, too, right? It's like a mix.

I guess so, yeah. Yeah. And okay, so you've been embarrassed because you feel like you, on some level, you know what's going on here. But on some level, you were getting something out of it. You're like, I don't care that I'm being used for cash because I could screw this girl. I'm like, are you texting every day? Like, if she doesn't live, where does she live? Well, she's lived in Philly when we're dating.

But she's in Nigeria now. I'm just, please. And I give you emails. Stop. Who cares even if she is in Nigeria? I'm just telling you. Like, even if that was the truth, let her fucking stay there, okay? stop with the money. I mean, if this is where you want to go, if you want to have some kind of relationship

that is totally bullshit and you want to live in like fantasy land and have this kind of situation that is set up, that's fine. If you know exactly what the deal is like, you know, this girl's with you because she likes the cash and you get what you're getting from it, then that's okay. That's a mutual exchange and you want to pay her out and spend your money that way. That's all right. But if you're like at the point in your life where you're like the, you know, you sort of are seeing the reality of it and it's not sitting well with you, then we could talk and I could help you get the fuck out of that situation. But if you're okay with it, that's your, that's your thing. You know what I mean? I'll tell you about, like I sent him money last week, okay?

How much? $500. Okay, $500 for what? To buy a computer, right? Over there. So she talked to me regularly. Okay. Well, what is your relationship been for the whole six years?

Like, what is this scenario? Like, so you meet her on sugardady.com, right? That's how you meet her through email. She's like a fucking model. She's gorgeous. You're older. You've been married. You're like, this is like your dream come true, right?

She's totally into you. Oh, for sure. Right? And so what is your first meeting like? Like, how long after you meet her on that website, do you actually meet her in person? How long of a time? It's probably a month. Okay.

And in that time period, are you guys texting, talking on the phone, Skyping, like, what's the communication like? It was a text and email. Okay. So then where do you meet her? You're in Canada at this time and she's still in Philly? Like, that's where it started six years ago?

That's correct, yeah. Okay. And I went on a holiday of South Carolina and I met her down there. So you flew her out, though? You paid for her to meet you there? Yeah. Do you fly her first class? She took a train.

Oh, a train. She had her own train ticket from, from, something else and from a modeling gig apparently so I met her down there on the on the train a modeling gig they don't even okay so she comes down to south carolina and now what's that meeting like do you does she screw that first time when you meet her do you take her out to dinner like what happens that first encounter we met at 11 o'clock at night and so i had to go to a hotel room and we didn't we didn't have sex the first night no we didn't okay so she meets you at the why did you meet so late at 11 she it was when when her train got

She missed the train and then she got the next one in And that came in about 11 o'clock at night 10 or 11 some of that So we just got a room We had a couple drinks and we left with the room But we didn't We slept there that night We didn't have sex that night

Okay and then so how many days do you spend that first At that first meeting together? Just three days Okay so do you need two nights Okay so you spent all your time together And you were like taking her out to dinner And then you started having sex with her that first time That's correct yeah

Okay and was the second? great. Like, did you guys have great chemistry? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. And so then you leave and then you guys keep in touch. Yeah. And we met. And actually, I took her to the airport and I went to wash her. I said, how's you doing? She knows there's a problem.

But she needed $400 for some kind of a goofy problem. I don't even what it was now. So right off the bat, that first meeting, I'm sorry, because sometimes it's hard to understand your accent a little bit. At that first meeting, right, after three days, you take her to the airport and she says to you, oh, by the way, I need 400 bucks for something? Yeah. Okay. And what was the problem? Do you

remember? It was just some stupid thing? It was. I don't even remember when it was. Something at home, I forget what it was. Okay, so she greased you with the sacks, and then she's like hit you up for some cash. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And you gave it to her? Yeah. Okay, and so she flies away.

What was the problem then? What did she need the $400 for? Do you remember? But it was a scam because she got a phone call in the two minutes. went to the election and we came back to him to have this $400 problem. You know what I mean? Oh, God. No, I know what you mean.

Do you know what you mean? Oh, my God. When you look back at it, you realize that's going on, I, so. Yeah, yeah, you realize, oh, my God. Okay, so after that, she leaves and then how long, like, and so now you're just, like, in touch. And when's the next time that you actually see her in person? How long? I think it was two weeks later.

Two weeks later. Okay. Where do you see her then? I met in Buffalo because she couldn't come to, didn't have a passport to come to Canada. Uh-huh. And I'm near Buffalo, so we met over there. Okay, and then did she hit you up for cash that time? I think she probably did, yeah.

Okay, and you don't remember how much you just gave her some cash. I think it was 400 that time, too. Was there, like, was there an issue, or did she just ask for some money? Um, it's probably just, I can't remember really, but there was, there probably was an issue, but she needs $400 for you and I gave it to her. Okay, so basically this girl starts asking you for cash, like, all the time, straight from the beginning. 400 turns into, like, what is the $4? Because, you know, eventually you give her $70,000.

In between $470,000, like, does it just keep increasing over time? And is it always like a car accident or a transportation? She went to L.A. to work, hey? So you need to get to an apartment, and that says, get an apartment for $50, 100, eh? So she gets one for $3,000 a month, eh? Uh-huh. And, um, and, of course, she was fine. In the six months later, oh, I missed my rent. Can you, can you help with the rent? And I had to borrow the money to get to pay that really. And I had to borrow the money to get that, eh? So, right. Okay. And that was just, okay. So she asked you for rent money, the $3,000 for rent money. And how do you know that she was? paying $3,000 for her apartment. I mean, where was she

getting that money from? She's from these modeling gigs. It was true. My name is on a lease. So I did see the lease. Okay. And so, but she knew, and how was she paying for this on her own anyway, for the 3K? But she was modeling, giving, she decided she would go there for

modeling and that's what she was doing there. But it's very inconsistent, obviously, right? Right. And would you see the modeling pictures? Yeah. What kind of modeling? She's in a couple of videos, eh? Uh-huh. Off here, I'll tell you her name, and you can Google her name, eh?

Right. She's in a couple of videos, and she's in one video with LNFAO. Uh-huh. She's in one of their videos. Right. Okay. I don't think there's that. I asked her about royalties, and she says, oh, no, it's just a fee of fun.

That's all she got, eh? Yeah, you don't pick up that much for that kind of stuff. Not to support yourself $3,000 a month, I'm telling you that much, okay? Yeah. She's probably got like five other guys helping her. So she got the, I mean, I hate to say it,

but please. No, I'm not an idiot. I figure that's probably the case. Right. So she hits you up for a couple months rent, right? So you give her $3,000 a couple times in a row, right?

Yeah. And so she's always like, and she keeps you, like, she keeps you happy like this whole time, obviously, like on some level she was fulfilling your emotional needs besides too, right?

Because you're thinking this girl is your girlfriend, right? Yeah. Are you guys like, texting and sending emoticons to each other and smiley faces and all that shit is that just like going on constantly yep yep and we're on you i have a messenger on camera quite a too right okay and so you see her every now and so after the rent what does she hit you up for uh well one of the big thing she needed a car right and i said i can give you three grand three grand to get a car right so she says okay okay that's fine so she calls me i've got a car it's seven grand just like she always like double her shit. She's not stupid. Remember the apartment's 1500, but she gets one for 3,000. She wants a car for 3,000? That's very typical. I get one for 7,000. Okay. And I'd say, well, I'll send you 500 bucks. Can you make it six? Stuff like

that, right? Right. So you gave her 7,000 for a car? Yeah. She had the car picked out. Yeah. But didn't get it, eh? But buys a Mercedes instead, eh? Okay. And 7,000 was a down payment, obviously. Uh-huh. And you sent that to her? Yeah, I sent her to the $7,000 to buy a car. Okay, what comes after that? Yeah, what comes after that? She bought a Mercedes instead.

Right, I get it. And somebody ran into it, and it's in the garage, and she never drove it, actually. How do you even know she bought a Mercedes? Dude, how do you even know she bought a Mercedes, you know, with that $7,000? I suppose I'd get pictures of a $3,000 car. I never got pictures of any car, really, hey? Right, and she just told you she bought a Mercedes, and she needed. and she paid $7,000 for it.

And then she told you someone crashed into it and it was in a car. She's got a lot of car crashes because eventually you pay $70 grand for a car crash, right? That's right. That's right. Oh my God. Dude, I love you. You are like hilarious. I really didn't believe that people like you actually, like you really exist.

Like you're not pulling my chain. Like this is a real story. I couldn't make this up. No, yeah, no, I guess not. But wait a second. So, I mean, you should go on like date line or something because you. You know, I don't know. I bet you like it would be a really good episode because if they investigated her,

they probably have like five other guys like you on and you could all be at all. That's probably the case. Figure how much money she's banking a year off of you dudes. Okay, wait. So she pays $7,000 for some Mercedes. All of a sudden it's like in a wreck and she can't even use it. And do you ever ask her what that? So you never get any, you never give her anything as a loan, right?

It's always money just given to her as a gift, right? Well, at least I said this is a loan. I need this money back. Yeah. I've said that a few times, eh? Uh-huh. And actually, when I gave it 70, I sent her an email and she signed it, but she came me back.

Uh-huh. And what she handed it to me, it was very, it was very telling the way she handed it to me. Just opened up a person, oh, here. And that was it, actually. Right. That was. Like I owe you for 70,000. It wasn't any big deal, eh?

Yeah, right, exactly. She's not giving you back any money. So how does she eventually get to the 70,000? So you give her $7,000? for a car. What else? I said the 70 for the car crashed. No, no, 70,000. I thought it was 7,000 for the Mercedes.

70,000? No, it's 7 for the car. Right. But somebody hit her, somebody hit her, or she hit somebody and they sued her for 70,000. How long? Stop it. How long? Oh, come on.

How long has, after she bought that car, did the car, car crash happen? I don't even it's all the big blur to me really so she calls you up one day it's like oh my god baby my car got busted like they're suing me I need 70 grand you know what

it was it was a rental that she had that she hit somebody with and she didn't have insurance and in Canada I know you can't you can't rent a car without insurance yeah yeah you can't uh huh no you can't like in

no in America you have an option to take insurance or not a certain insurance Yeah, absolutely, but she's still full of shit. I don't believe a word that comes out of it. I almost would say you're on her side now. Am I on her side? No, I feel like, I mean, you know. I was going to say you were for a second.

Yeah. Yeah, wait. You know, when you add it all up, there's just too many crazy, crazy goofy stories to be believable, really. I mean, 100% she's using you for your cash and she's swindling you. Like 100%. There's not a chance that that's not happening.

And even you know it because you last when you're telling it because you know when you hear it outside of yourself and you hear yourself saying it you hear how ridiculous it sounds right i mean everything it's straight out of like a made-up story you know the old man with the young girl the model quote unquote i mean what kind of model is she she's on videos you know what i mean she's you don't even make that much money she's on sugar daddy dot com i mean you can't make this shit up it sounds made up because it's so sort of stereotypical you i can't even believe that this like someone could really be taken, but I think that that's what happens.

And I'm going to use the D word, and it's so rude to say, but when people are desperate, it's, you know, women get taken all the time by men in that way, too. You know, we see it the opposite. We see these women that are older that get, you know, these guys come in and they sort of take them for all their money and shit, you know, and it's like, it's a, it's a desperation thing because, you know, what, what is it about you that would be, would, you know, because you're not stupid. You can't be that stupid, right?

but on some level you lived in denial so that you could get what you wanted. You put all your rational thinking aside because you were so desperate to get that attention or whatever it was that she was giving you that you chose to look the other way. A great piece of ass. Totally.

And you know, you would have spent a lot. You could have had a good piece of out. And I promote this stuff on my podcast all the time and it's very terrible because it's like illegal, you know, like escorts and prostitution. But you could go to Vegas and like get free hookers. And not freehookers, like legalized, you know, prostitution for less money than you're paying for this girl if that's really what you want. But, I mean, was it like more than just the sex?

I think it was more than the sex. I think it was like all the attention and thinking that you had like a girl that really cared about you, right? Like, we go up somewhere. I said, I felt like a celebrity. When you walked through a bar or restaurant something like or you'd walk downtown, I felt like a celebrity walk along beside it early, eh? Right. So it's like an ego thing. You're a five or six.

Like, what were your wives? Like, were your wives hot? Or were they, like, the people that you actually really had in real life? My first wife was a 10 also, right? Okay. Were you better looking at that time in your life? Were you, like, a seven at that time? I mean, come on, you told me you're a five.

I don't. That's not that good. Canadians are very humble, eh? What? Canadians are very humble. What is? I couldn't understand that. Canadians are very humble.

Oh, okay. So maybe you're better than a five. So your first wife was a 10. And how come that went sour? What happened with your first marriage? How long were you married for? Three years. And what happened?

She found out that wasn't rich, eh? She decided to leave me, eh? Okay. Why did she think you were rich? Because I was good looking, eh? Right, okay. She thought they went together. I just pulled in her leg, yeah, so.

Okay, so she divorced you after she realized there's no cash there. And then what happened the second time? How long were you married for? three years again but I'm not going to get into the other two okay okay so okay interesting there's no big deal really

but I don't want to tell the world about it I didn't be I didn't be anything like that I no no no I believe that no no I totally get that about you I think it's just your ego like that's why I ask about the other stuff because it just sort of would be the reason like all these things sort of compile up and sort of weigh on you and then they fuck with yourself esteem and then it's like so low that you know you sort of have acted desperation.

I'm not a lonely old man who never had a woman in his life and got hooked by the girl, but that's not the case. No, no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that you've had too much experience that totally, like, sort of, you know, ruined your view of yourself because of stuff that you've been through. I've seen a lot of guys. I have guy friends that were in marriages where they were very abused by their women sort of emotionally.

You know, the woman gets, like, sick of them, and they stay with them. And then the women are just, like, every day, like, on their ass. totally not into them, putting them down, putting them down. By the time they get divorced, it's like they have no balls. Their dicks were chopped off. And they're like bitter, like low self-esteem dudes. You know, they come out of it on the other side, totally different. It happens to women, too, in a different way.

But like, so that's why I ask not to think, I'm not saying you don't have any woman that you're desperate. It's like that you maybe had too many of the bad experiences, that it changes who you are. And it, you know, it creates, it makes you do sort of things that you wouldn't have done 20 years ago. I'm going to tell you something that might not be irrelevant, but all three women I was married to are black, eh? And I've always dated black women.

Uh-huh. And I don't know if that's irrelevant or not, but that's the case earlier, so. What, that you've always dated black, that these women are all black? Yeah. No, I don't think that that's relevant. I mean, obviously, this one, the Nigerian thing

is, you know, of course she's black if she's claiming the whole, but no, I don't think it's relevant. I love black women, more so than white women. They're so fascinating to me. They're colorful. They just have more personality. They're more out there. You know, they're less uptight. There's a joke on the internet.

A buddy of mine sent me. A guy, a date to a Scottish girl, and she gets drunk on the first date. They have sex in the first date. He dates a black girl. It takes her dinner the first date. The second date he pays her rent. Third date, he pays her mother's rent. I don't know. Is that how they roll? Is that the deal?

I mean, he said it to me because he knew I'd pay her rent a few times. Right. Well, people could say that about Russia. I have friends that go with Russian girls and they're like horrified because those girls have no problem put their hands out for money and maybe that's just, listen, some people, you know, you just learn by like if, you know, people are sort of oppressed or they're, they come from like a culture where like I said, they're oppressed or, you know, they learn survival skills, you know, and a part of it is like putting their hand out for money for men and, you know, on a certain level and it's very base and this is like the lowest level like, you know,

women are sex objects and men, you know, provide money. Like, you know what I mean? Like that's the exchange that's really going on underneath it all, even in nature. You know, a woman looks to a man for survival instinct. So is it you know, when a girl is sort of doing that like really right off the bat, you know, it just might come from like a survival

kind of a thing, you know? Yeah, for sure. I understand. And if you're willing, like I said, to do business that way and you know what that exchange is for, then it's okay. Do you know what I mean? It's okay. You want to feel like a movie star walking through and this girl's giving

you like I don't think like if that's what you want and you kind of know on some level that you just have to pay her some money and take care of her quote unquote problems then that's fine but you know when she's taking you for 70 grand or 30 grand and you're not in you don't really have that kind of money that that's a lot of money for you like that's fucked up I'm sorry you have to draw a certain line or have some kind of boundaries you know what I mean if you want to stay in this kind of scenario which is you're basically both using each other she's a she's a You're using her as much as she's using you. I'm not saying like you're the total victim.

You're getting something. You're not as to that much. It's not like you're this big stupid sucker, you know. It's just you're using, you know exactly what you're using her for. For sure. For sure, yeah. You know, you want to look good. You want to feel good.

You want some sex. And you have the perfect relationship. I'm sure she never fucking nags you like a real, like a real girlfriend. She probably doesn't have to see you. There's probably none of that garbage. It never really had a fight. Yeah, of course, because there's no real relationship going on. In real intimacy, you know, when someone really cares about you, there's all kinds

of clashing that goes on. That's like the sign of true love. Do you know what? The only fight with that is when we're texting back and forth, she needs money. Oh, I can't send you money to me. I got to help somebody else say. Right, but that's, right. So that's what I'm saying.

So on a certain level, as a man, every man, you know, has this fantasy. Like, I want a girl that, you know, doesn't fucking. talk that doesn't give me any problems that just likes me that just fucks me that looks good you know but it doesn't want to deal with the bad stuff and this is the only way to have it that's the whole thing you know what you are sort of selling your soul for it so that's what you get and that's what it is and I know plenty of guys that go for that and you want to trick yourself into believing that she likes you for you on a certain level you know that that's not the case but you also don't like her for her you guys aren't having a real relationship you're having like one that's kind of safe and maybe

at this place in your life, it's enough for you. You know what I mean? Like that's all you really want. You don't want a girl. You know, you've been married three times. You've been through the real stuff and that's like hard work. So this is kind of easy.

As long as you pay for it, you get all the good stuff, right? That's correct. So that's your choice. And I know plenty of men that take that choice, you know, or make that choice. And that's, you know, because the other choice is you go back to having real relationships and you have real intimacy and you have a girl that doesn't put her hand out for money.

But, you know, sometimes you get in fights and she wants to see you all the time. And, you know, and it's hard work and there's all those other problems. And that's the other thing, you know. Fairly. Yeah. Yeah, you've had both. But, I mean, if you just want to know whether she's scamming you, dude, she's been, she's been, is it a scam at this point?

You guys have been in a six year sort of not, I wouldn't call it a relationship. I would call it like a partnership, like a partnership, like a, A business, well, it's like a business relationship where, you know, you're both getting what you, each person wants and needs. And at this point, do you want to pay $70 grand for it? I mean, no, you've paid $70. Now it's $30. Like, this is less. Like, why all of a sudden are you like, wait a second, I'm getting scammed now?

Are you starting to get sick of it? Oh, yeah, for sure, right? How come? Because it just, well, like, I mean, I just, well, if I had the 30 grand, I, I, if I had the 30 grand, I probably would have done it, but I don't have anything. So the problem is you can't support this situation anymore. That's the problem? Yeah.

Right. If you could, you would, right? Yeah. I'm glad that I can't really. When I get to $30,000, where do I send it? She doesn't even know where I send it to it really. What do you mean to know where to send it to? Well, it's a fine.

I have to pay the American immigration. It's a fine for immigration, why she got kicked out. That's right. And where do you have to send it to? Oh, she doesn't know. Yeah, trust me. She doesn't know because she hasn't figured out the scam yet. She hasn't figured out where she's going to tell you to say.

You're not sending it to anybody other than her. Trust me. Yeah, that would be the answer. Just put it in my account and we looked after, right? Of course. Well, I'm not going to do that, of course. But where did you send the $70,000 when you sent it? And how did you get that money?

How did you get that money? Well, I had that money. I actually do have a 30 grand, but it's locked away in my retirement day. Yeah. And how come, this is what I want to. Like, how come all of a sudden, and I guess it's like you said, because you really just don't have the money, that all of a sudden this is like you're starting to think, like, am I being, quote, unquote, scammed?

Well, see, in June is when she got deported. And they said she gave me the court of 30 days. Then she got another 30-day extension. So after August 1st, She says, well, I'll be gone tomorrow. So I said, well, we're not going to say goodbye? And she didn't say goodbye to me. And then I heard from her just before Christmas.

She was in Nigeria and got access to her computer. And just the story's in Nigeria. Like, I need money. I have to have an escort to take me to the computer office. This is not safe for a woman here at all this. And I'm out of, I don't have any food. I'm here with family. They're poor.

They don't have any money. Don't have my food. The stories are just getting so freaking crazy. I know. I mean, the most. model stories that I'm in L.A. And I crashed a car. Now she's getting, she's getting more creative. Or

to me, lazier because this shit is like so obvious. I mean, the car crashes. I don't know. You know what I mean? Kevin, please. Like, I don't know what you want from me. Do you want me to tell you like, like, I'm trying to

read you and see where you're sort of at. I mean, because sometimes people aren't at the place where they're like, like, you know, when you say I, if I had the money, pay, like maybe you're not ready to give up this sort of, like, arrangement that you have. You know? But maybe you could find a cheaper arrangement. I bet you there's some girls that would, you know, would need a lot less money and still

fuck you for, like, maybe, you know, a thousand a month. Oh, really? Yeah. Don't you think? Why don't you go back on sugar daddy.com? Try to find yourself a new Nigerian princess. Yeah. I'm not being a smart ass, but this chick is the hot-us-looking mom.

I've been a scene in my life. Right. That's what, that's what it is. That's how they get you. That's how you're being gotten. Like, that's the deal.

That's the thing. That's the, that's like you're a kryptonite. Every guy, every woman, everybody has like a kryptonite. Your kryptonite like is like a, it's the looks.

It makes you like you say it's that thing. It's like an ego thing with you. And you're being taken because you're feeding that part of your ego. That's what it is. Yeah. You could either let go of that and live in the real world or you could live in fantasy land and keep feeding. your ego and like, you know, and just have your bank account or your retirement fund dwindle.

Like, what are you going to do if you wind up like sort of broke from for this shit? I mean, at a certain level, you have to come out of this phase. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Don't you? I mean, you're not like, you don't have millions and millions of dollars. I mean, we've all heard about the like the millionaire that's gone through this, you know, the old man that's just being taken.

And he doesn't care because he's like got unlimited funds. But you don't have unlimited funds. they are limited now what they are limited now for sure right so you're at like a crossroads you're like fuck because you're not really done with the scenario you know you're being taken you know it's an arrangement

you know she's kind of using you but you still don't I still don't think you care but like if she called me today and said the whole whole horror story I probably send their money the next day if you had it yeah I feel like it is saying that but I mean it's probably a case she's probably

to talk me into it. It was several times I said, that's it. I'm not, no more than she was talking into it, eh? So. Dude, she struck gold with you. I mean, you guys are the perfect couple in a way because you're both giving each other what each other needs. On some level, she doesn't want a real relationship either at all.

She's just taking, she just wants your cash. And you just, like I said, want her, you know, want the status of her, like what she gives you by just, you know, in relation to you, like, whatever. in my mind I'm still thinking I hope she gets here this summer and I'll take over dinner and show her off to my friends like right exactly that's actually going yeah no I can't listen I think I think it's great that you sort of have an awareness of it yet you're still and you're able to laugh at it but yet you're still not sort of attached to the fact that like when you're laughing it's like that's you like well who you're talking about making jokes like that's really where you're you're at. And I think if you really went into that sort of feeling, you might get sort of upset about where you wound up and where you are, because there is some sort of big vapid hole inside of you that you're filling up with like this nonsense on a certain level. You know, if you get to the

point where you have no more money and you can't feed it, it's like a drug addict. You know what you mean? Like what are you going to get off on? What are you going to get off on? You know what I mean? This is what's fulfilling you. Like you could look like a thought of like, oh, maybe she'll come in the summertime and I could show her to my guys. Could last you. You. You know, you're going to for six months. You know, you don't even need to see her in all that time. You could be alone and just be fine knowing you're seeing her. Like, to me, it's more of the thought of what's going on is fulfilling you, like this fantasy land. You know, you're either going to have to get a new fantasy girlfriend or you're going to have to bust out a fantasy land and just start living in reality again.

It's your choice, you know, but fantasy relationships, you're going to, you know, there's consequences to them. And for you, since you're the guy in a fantasy relationship, the consequences, you're most likely going to have to pay for that. We're set up another relationship with some crazy girl that lives long distance and is emotionally unavailable. I don't know, but to get the good looking girl, the girl that you want,

that fits your fantasy sort of situation, you're going to have to pay. I suggest you get a new one if you're not ready to give it up totally and get into psych therapy or something and start figuring out, like, what you really, what really makes you happy and fulfilled in life.

like you know or find just get some escorts like is is prostitution legal in canada i just had to someone email me about how terrible it is that i tell people i think to like have to go to prostitute but like i mean is that is that legal to take out an escort like a companion you know what i mean uh it's well we have craigslist here yeah yeah and that's basically the same pain really eh so right right you're gonna be paying for it yeah you're kind of fucked you're definitely being scammed i would not center the 30 thousand like do not and you know what happened you might not lose her totally don't give her the 30 grand and maybe she'll just you know when she realizes she can't shake you for that she'll come back when she needs

like a thousand or something you know what I mean she'll just try to get whatever she can from you don't you think yeah well I just tell you what when I sent her a 70 grand I didn't hear from her for four months and I thought she's just fucked off to Hawaii or something like that totally she went traveling then out of the blue I got email I got deported she said right because it was a car accident. They said she paid on the last day, and they were the claimant she wasn't paying, and they reported her in immigration.

They reported her by mistake for four months. Uh-huh. And where'd she go that? Oh, that's why. And she couldn't send you an email? That's correct, yeah. I watched Tyra Banks one time at her show. She said, you know, a gorilla with no fingers

can send a text day. Wait, wait, what did you say about Tyra Banks? You went on her show? I saw that. I watched her show one time. Oh, right. And she said there's how the relationship. A gorilla with no fingers could send a text.

Yeah, right. Or an email. Like, there's really no reason. She disappeared for four months after you gave her $70,000. And then when she reappeared, she said, oh, I was deported. I mean, she must have girlfriends that she sits around and talks to, and they just have, like, the biggest laugh. Like, I mean, I couldn't, this was my friend, and she was scamming a dude. And she was like, oh, and then I took $70.

And then I disappeared. And then I called him and said this. he was like, okay, like, I would be like, you've got to be kidding me. Oh, yeah, really. I mean, I'd be like, I want to talk to that guy. I'd be like, I want to talk to that guy. And now I am talking to you, and I'm like, I don't even really know what to say to you. Yeah, you know what?

It's just, like, I'm talking to you here, and I've mentioned to a few fans, and it's sometimes 90% of account that she was on the way. Well, 100% of it said, Kevin, you're being scanned. Stop it. Yeah, it's 100%. But like I said, it doesn't even matter. You know you are. You laugh about it. You completely know.

I don't think that you care. I really don't. I don't think that's the problem. I think the problem right now is you don't have the money to support your habit. But I think that you're fine with it. Yeah. You know, but I think I'm... Yeah.

I didn't hear from it for three months in the fall, which supposedly went to Nigeria. And I thought, well, that's it. I'm over it, really now. I'm fine. And then I get a text. She has a cousin in Philadelphia who texts me supposedly. She can get to a phone, eh?

Or she can get to a computer. If you're a doctor tomorrow, eh? So, you know, I know I'm being scammed, eh? And I guess hearing her from you makes the final, really. No, come on. You know what it is? No, it's like when, you know, when, it's like you need to hear it from yourself. Like, there's like, you need to come to the, like, the 100% realization.

And I think what's scary about that is when you really sort of face that truth about yourself, you might come, like you might feel really horrified and really upset and really like not good about yourself. And I think that's what you're afraid to do. So it's easier to sort of just avoid those thoughts of like the truth of the situation and keep going. Because what you're going to have to face is that you were taking that none of this was real. And that's like really, really depressing. But I promise you that if you go to that place and get depressed and feel terrible about yourself, and let go of her and feel like you never have like

when you come to the other side of that you'll be okay you know what I mean but if you keep living in denial about it and keep going to wind up broke you're going to have no money and it's just going to get worse and worse because you're like addicted to this situation you know and you're not you're you're refusing to let go of it I am yeah but you know what I heard what you just said and that's that's great therapy for I'm right

there because my first wife, I was mad to not with her. Yeah. And I broke up with her. We broke up and I said, you know, the worst thing in my life happened to me and I survived it. No problem. Yeah. So, so nothing else can bother me after that now.

Right. That's 30 years ago. Right. But, you know, what happens is, and I think as we get older and I've seen this happen to many people, it's happened to me. Like, we get really, really hurt by somebody. And then we're so afraid to get hurt again because we know. But we know.

But on another level, like you just said, you also know that you survived it. You know what I mean? And you were okay. But what we all don't want to do is we don't want to go to that really painful place because it's painful and it feels fucking terrible. I'm an addict. I'm a sober person for like 11 years. And the reason why I drank all my life and what I realized once I quit drinking is that I did that to not have feelings, like not have bad feelings. You know what I mean?

I don't like feeling pain. I do anything like, you know, I was a hypochondriac. I would create diseases when I didn't want to. You know, I would do anything to get away from a bad feeling. and live in denial of whatever was going on. So I totally get it. And what the biggest fear is is just feeling bad. But if you could realize that it's just a feeling

and that the more that you just feel bad and the more you go through it, the less it becomes and then you're okay. You know what I mean? And we've all done that too. Like you said, you did that with your ex-wife. You just need your fate. Like you need to get to that place

where you like loop out of it. You know what I mean? You have to get into the place where you're in the full reality of like how bad this situation is. You know, now you're laughing about it. We're making jokes about it. You kind of know it intellectually,

but you need to know it like emotionally. You know what I mean? You need to sort of really attach to it in a different way. You know, do you go to therapy at all? Only crazy people do that, eh? Oh, please. If you don't think you're quote unquote crazy, come on. Only crazy people don't do that.

Yeah, crazy people don't go to therapy. I'm joking. but I did once 15 years ago. I did. Yeah, listen, it's very hard to find the right. I think a lot of people get very turned off to therapists because a lot of times you go to like therapy and they're like fucking nuts

or something and that's like anything. You know what I mean? It's like it's hard to find a good knee doctor. They're all terrible. Like you know, to me it's the 90-10 rule. Like 90% of everything out there is garbage and 10% is amazing and you have to find the 10% and everything you do, whether it's a doctor or a therapist, a hairdresser.

There's more people that are bad. doing what their job is, then good. So it's very hard. I think a lot of people go to therapy. They meet a therapist and the therapist sucks or they're crazy and it doesn't work and they think therapy is bullshit. But if you go until you find, if you really look into it and go until you find like the right person, it's amazing and it's really life-changing and it really does help and

there really is something to it. It's just hard to find the right therapist, you know, and the right kind of therapy. my my feeling is I'm 59 years old what's a 35 year old psychiatrist can tell me that I don't know already really well I have to say

right but first of all you know right but you know I have to say that I had a therapist recently who was a psychoanalyst and they're very expensive but that kind of psychoanalysis is actually really amazing

if you could find somebody in your area that does that and they just go to a lot of school and she like talked to me and taught me things because she was just so well educated in this stuff that you can't really know for yourself. It's not about life experience. These people know how the brain works and all these other things. Like it was fascinating.

And she really changed me as a person. And it was like really good therapy. It was psychoanalytical. Like if you look into that kind of therapy or cognitive therapy, you need somebody to like wake you up. You know what I mean? If you can't do it yourself. Sometimes if you don't wake up in a situation. What happens life teaches you those or you'll be woken up by like losing all your money like something will take you down

So it's either get the help before that happens And you know your take down or your bottom could be in your control, right? And you could decide I'm going to go to this place and get depressed and let go of this girl and go through the fucking breakup in my mind. You know what I mean? Because you don't need to break up with her. You need to break up in your head. You know what I mean? Because this whole situation's happening inside your mind, you know?

You could go through that on your own and do it in control. Or you could continue to look the other way. And eventually it's just all going to blow up in your face. really terrible way. Either you're never going to hear from her again or you're going to lose all your money, you know? So it's really your choice. It's like somebody that's at a job and they hate it and they just never quit and then they just

eventually get fired. Like I mean you're, it's this whole shit is going to blow up. It could either get, it's going to get worse and worse or you could decide now is the time to get out and get out means like just go to that place of like I have to let go of this bullshit

you know that's keeping me satisfied. It's like fake it's like you're filling yourself up with nothing it's fake fulfillment it's that's why it's not enough you know that's why it's not enough for her because she's not fulfilling herself with money from god you know it'll never end there and it'll never end for you because you're trying to fill yourself up with something that's not real it'll never make you fully happy it's just like bullshit you know oh i'm gonna make my friends think i'm great i'm gonna walk through a room you have like these little moments of like sort of feeling great about yourself and then what's in

between three months of torture three months of fucking torture because you haven't heard from her and you don't know and you know it's like I don't know that's a tough way to live it's a tough way to live thank you very very much yeah you wouldn't as in a respective form I really

yeah you have to look at it that way like I said I don't know what you're ready for if that's where you're looking to go with it or you're just looking to figure out how to pay the money you're definitely being scam like I said scam isn't the right word you're definitely in a situation that is based on you giving her money

and then she'll stay with you. And if you can't give her any more money, then maybe you're going to have to end the situation. But you should look into all these other sort of things just about yourself. You know what I mean? And where you're at and figure out what you want. To me, as long as you're alive

and you're fucking breathing, you could be learning lessons and you could be changing and you could be growing and you could become a better person. You know, you don't need to, this doesn't have to be the rest of your life. You know what I mean?

You could go back to having real relationships with women. You could have another marriage. You could have another life. long-term real relationship with a woman that maybe you don't walk across the street and everyone's staring at you, but she really, she really likes you when you like her and you enjoy her company and you guys are like really good friends and you know what I mean and you make each other better people.

Like maybe you could have that again in your life. You know, there's always a chance for that. You're incredible. You made you feel really good. Okay, good. Well, I'm glad. I mean, keep me posted. I always have people that call back into the podcast and find out I know I'm going to get emails

about you because people are going to go crazy over this. story because like I said, I think we've all heard about people that do this. And I mean, I watch a lot of date line and those kind of shows. I love them. And we see these people on. Like I said, if some of my girlfriend was doing this to a guy, I'd be like, I want to talk to that guy. And I got to talk to you.

And I feel for you, but I get where it's coming from. And I don't see you, like I said, as a total victim or a total loser. I think certain people could find themselves in this kind of place in life because of shit that happens to them. You know, you get hurt so many times. you have shit that happens to you and you but like I said you you know as long and now that you're you're you could still change you know what I mean and you could better this situation and I think that you need to and I always believe that anybody that's cruising through Craigslist looking to get laid or looking

for some sort of situation then they see my ad because I don't bait and switch I put in there like do you have a problem do you want to talk about it you know anyone that calls me in a certain level I believe you really are open to wanting to change or else you wouldn't have answered my ad to begin with that's correct. Yeah, for sure. Really, yeah. Yeah, and that's why I do my podcast, because I love shoving my opinions on people's throats,

and I love helping people with problems. But when I try to do it, when somebody that's not really ready for it, like my friends, they're like, go fuck yourself, and I'm really irritating. But when I have people call in to my podcast, my posting, they actually, like, oh, I always have these moments where they're like,

oh, thank you for that. Like, you really open my eyes because that's really what you're ready for. There's some part of you that does want to change. And, you know, it might not, it's not going to happen overnight. That's not how it happens. but at least you could start thinking about the things that I said

and start trying to like, you know, change your situation and your life so that you could be happier because I don't think this is ever going to really make you that happy. Thank you very much. Okay. God, let me put your list here, ad in front of me today. Yes, exactly. That's how I feel.

I'm happy. It was great talking to you. And keep me posted. Let me know how things go with you, okay? I'll keep in touch for sure. And I really, really appreciate your help. You've helped me about your health. All right, good.

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to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay. I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other.

And that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access. to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase,

whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone? Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com, with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous.

Strictly Anonymous.