Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 068 - Rainbow Talks About her Crazy Sexual Escapades
Episode Date: April 5, 2015Rainbow started having sex at a very early age and calls in to discuss her crazy sexual escapades. She talks about the a threesome she had with her first boyfriend and his stepbrother, her exper...ience as a submissive in the BDSM world as well as the 3 year affair she had with a guy she met online while playing Warcraft. How old was she when she started having sex? Did she ever try double pentration? How did her husband find out she was cheating? Was he able to ever trust her again? Tune in to find out the answers, plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I taped two different people this week who actually emailed me.
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she wrote me like you know a long-winded email about like her you know what she started like
she started having sex at a very young age and she like got it on and did like pretty hardcore
stuff early on with boyfriends uh which is very interesting and she gets into some of those
stories. So without getting, and then she gets married and she has an affair online and her husband
finds out and then they're better for it. They work through it and they stay together and you know,
that's the whole story but it's like really interesting to listen to the specifics of everything,
you know, because we get into some stuff about monogamy and cheating and this is what we talk
about all the time and sex and like I said, she's very, she's very open-minded sexually this woman and
she's tried some really cool things if you ask me. I was kind of like jealous of her and you'll hear about that
on the show because she's like done like you know she was pretty balzy in her young age
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Hi, is this
Rainbow, right? I'm calling you Rainbow.
Yes. Rainbow.
So I know that
you sent me a long email and you gave me
all the information of what we're going to talk about today.
And I just like for you to just like start your story
off. I think what I
want to start off with is, I know, like, on a side note at the end, you're like, oh, by the way,
I slept with a 55-year-old when I was 18. And we can start there, but then we'll get into,
like, everything else, all, like, the really good details. But so, and sorry about mixing up
central time. I have no idea. Like, central time is only an hour behind Eastern time, or is that
different at different times of the year? I don't know. Am I so done? I don't know.
You don't know either. Okay.
No.
You were going to say to me that you were listening to one of the episodes.
You had something to say also about one of my episodes, previous ones, right?
Yeah, I listened to this morning.
I listened to this last one with Craig Blissville.
And when you guys were talking about whether the swinging couple,
the one who likes to watch his wife have sex with the other men,
if he's real or not.
And at first I was like, well, I didn't know if it was,
but I think he's true.
I think he's being honest.
Have you listened to all of them?
I didn't listen.
Which ones of John?
I listened to all the one of his.
No, no, of John, you listen to a bunch of his?
Yes, I listen to almost all of them.
There's the last one that you did with him.
I haven't listened to that one yet.
That one is a little farfetched.
I got so many emails, I have to tell you, from people.
Like one of my listeners who always emails me his two cents.
I really like him, but he's a little opinionated.
You know, he's very opinionated.
He's like, if you don't call him out,
on his shit than I think you're in on it.
Like he thinks like I know that he's lying and I allow him to.
But I got a lot of people that are like he's full of shit.
And this one you have to listen to it because he did say some stuff that seemed very like not real.
So I don't know.
Like maybe he could be mixing some truth with some fiction.
You know, some people are like a little bit of storytellers.
Like they tell a story and they exaggerate and then borders on lying.
Like maybe that's what it is.
It's not really my job.
And I've said this before in my podcast and I've told people that write into me like to
sort of back my collars into a corner and ask them if they're lying or anything.
You know what I mean?
Like that's not what I do.
He called into my show.
I can't really do that.
You know, he's really nice.
I've gotten to know him over, you know, just talking to him.
So I can't do that to him.
I, you know, I, I feel like it's kind of interesting if he is lying and I'd love to
get into that.
I just don't know how to pose it with him.
Like, I don't know how to bring it up, you know, without sort of turning him off or being
rude to him, you know.
You know, when he's ready to admit he's lying, if he's lying, he will.
But my listeners are getting sick of it.
But the good thing about you is that you're real and you're definitely, you were like a listener of the show, right?
I mean, this is how I get girls.
This is the only way I get girls because no girls are ever on Craigslist.
And I do get guys calling, writing in and saying, why don't you have more girls on?
So I was so glad that you emailed me.
Well, yeah, I found your podcast just happened to find it.
And I immediately fell off it just because I'm,
love hearing about other people, whether it's problems or just different adventures or whatever.
And so, and I, and I enjoy you and I like your personality.
And so I think it's been really fun to listen to all these different people come and just talk
about their lives.
Yeah, that's what I like too.
That's why I do the show.
You know what I mean?
Because I just like analyzing things and like getting into shit with people, you know,
and like, and so my friends are like really irritated by that part of my personality,
you know, because sometimes they really don't want to talk about it.
But I find that on my podcast, if somebody calls in or they write in or they reply to my ad,
that that's exactly what they want to do.
So it's like perfect.
It's the perfect pairing.
I want to scrutinize, not scrutinize.
I want to like analyze your life with you.
And you want to like dump it on me.
Like you said, like you have a lot of stuff.
Is that you said like you have a lot of stuff that you just like to put it out there because you never really have?
Right.
A lot of like your secret stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, there's just some things not.
everybody you need to know about or wants to know about or you might not want to share it with the people
that are directly in their life every day.
They might look different.
Yes, people are so judgmental.
That's the problem.
That's why people don't talk about this stuff.
I think other countries that's different.
I think America were very prude, you know.
And so it's even worse here if people are really talking about what they're doing behind closed doors.
And that's why I think it's great on my show because the people call up and you hear about all this stuff that people are doing.
And, you know, everyone, a lot of people are doing it.
People that are sitting next to people right now that they have no idea are doing these kind of things, you know.
So I find it interesting, too.
So what's your deal now?
You're 35, right?
You're married, I think you said, for eight years, right?
You have kids.
Yep.
Yep.
And you started having sex very early on.
I did.
I was 14 the first time.
And that first night, it was me and another girlfriend of mine.
we had snuck out of our houses and met up with these guys.
And we both lost our virginity that night.
And I mean, there were two different guys, but we were in the same room.
Right.
So it was a little orgy.
There was obviously, like, a lot of alcohol involved.
Were you guys, like, wasted?
We had smoked pot, and it's also the first night I had ever smoked pot.
And I didn't really drink at the time.
And so, you know, I was only 14, and I just, I don't know.
I never really cared about drinking that much.
So even back then, but yeah, we had been slowly hot and it just, we went into it knowing that kind of that was what was going to happen.
How did you know?
Like, was it sort of talked about or like were you and the guy and the girl?
Like, were you all always like?
It was me and my friend, the other girl.
Yeah, we had kind of, you know, knew that we wanted to lose our virginity.
And we knew that these guys were probably going to be more than willing to help us to cut.
And so, yeah, we like, hey.
you guys want to get together on this night and the guy that we went to his house,
he was the same age of us.
His mom was,
she didn't care.
She did,
he did whatever he wanted,
so.
Right.
So you guys both lost your Virginia.
So you lost your Virginia at 14 and you were like ready to get it on.
I was the same way.
I have to say when I was like 15,
I couldn't wait to lose my virginity.
I always wanted to just like start having sex.
Not so much in a slutty way.
I don't know.
It was more a curiosity.
You know,
I always wanted to be more of a grown up than be a,
child you know I wanted to know what that was all about and sort of be in the know you know and
so I couldn't wait myself and I you know and so I guess you and your friends were the same thing
I think people nowadays you know you're 35 I'm like 10 years older than you but so you were still
I think in your generation it wasn't common that people were doing it at 14 I think nowadays
people do it earlier and girls are much more open-minded sexually but I know in my day it wasn't
that it wasn't the case right I agree I was pretty young among you know
the girls in my school.
So, I mean, I think nowadays, you're right.
It is a little bit more, I mean, with the internet, there's so much more out there for the kids.
But, yeah, I mean, it wasn't, it was young.
And I don't, I don't regret it or anything.
You know, I didn't have any super bad experiences.
I think the worst experience I had didn't probably happen until I was older and I was,
and I was 18 and I slept with that older man.
Yeah, I know.
And you said he was the worst, like, was it?
Because he was.
But hadn't you heard?
So you said, like, this is just a little side thing where you're like, oh, when I was 18,
you slept with a 55-year-old.
And you heard that he, like, he was really good at going down on girls, right?
And he was a very, he was like the, he was supposedly a really good lay, right?
But it turned out that wasn't the case.
Yeah.
Well, I knew him from this older lady I was friends with, and she was a bartender.
And she, so she knew him and knew of his conquest.
And, you know, it would come up.
jokingly, well, it just ended up that she would, I'd go to her bar and she'd serve me, you know, alcohol
even though I wasn't old enough. And it just, I was really drunk one night and he was there and he
was hitting on me. And I just went back to his house with him and thinking that I was in
for this great experience and it was awful. I mean, it really, it wasn't good at all. And then I
felt like weird because he was really, really old and he wasn't really that good looking. And
So I just kind of got up in the middle of the night when he was snoring and I left.
And when you're 18, I mean, someone that snores is like, you know, a grandfather.
Yeah, I was like, oh my God, this guy is as old as my dad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he wasn't even hot and he was bad.
I don't think that's an age thing like because I have like literally slept with people of all different ages right now.
I'm sure that you're older.
Like I was one of the best lays I ever had was a guy who was 52.
too. It wasn't when I was really young.
So I don't think it's because he was old.
But did he have like old man's ass?
Like did he have that old man ass thing or like a really old body?
Like I know the guy I was with didn't have that.
His body wasn't that bad, but it was starting to get kind of like that old man's sagginess.
Yeah.
So it was kind of like that.
And no, he did not have a nice ass.
And he did not eat pussy well at all.
I don't know if he's having an off.
or something, I don't know,
but I was not willing to give it another shot.
Right.
That was an alcohol-induced sort of thing that you regret.
So now, but let's go back to your high school days
because you dated a guy for a while in high school
and you guys definitely, you know, did some pretty hardcore things, right?
I mean, as far as high school is concerned.
Even if you were like older, you know, like you guys,
so tell me about that.
What happened with your high school guy?
Well, I, I, we dated almost all through high school from like 10th grade clear through until I graduated.
And, you know, I mean, we had a lot of sex.
Just we were, I mean, we were teenagers.
So, you know, you're, you're wanting to just experiment.
And he was willing and opened to experiment with a lot of things.
Not only that, the great thing about when you're a teenager, because I think back to this nowadays all the time,
because you just don't have sex like that when you're older.
Is that like you have nothing else to do?
Like you don't really have a car.
you don't have any money.
You can't really go anywhere.
So all you do is like your whole day is about like getting lead.
It was like fun, you know what I mean?
Because it was like all you could do.
It's true.
And his parents had a really nice house with a hot tub and in the same room with the hot tub.
They had dartboards.
And I mean, it was really nice.
And so and they loved me.
So they didn't care if I was over there.
And so we'd spend the day in the hot tub and, you know, experiment.
was all sorts of different things, but he also had an older stepbrother, and his older stepbrother
lived there, too.
And I had a huge crush on him, and that's what I initially really liked, but he was enough
older that...
How old were you at the time, and your guy...
You and your guy were the same age, right?
You and your boyfriend?
Yeah, I was 16.
And then the stepbrother?
The stepbrother was like 22 or 23 at the time when I was 16, and so he was like, no, you're
too young.
I don't want to be in trouble.
And, you know, he, later I found out, too, he had just gotten out of, like, this weird, bad relationship.
I don't know all the details of it or anything like that, but I had a huge crush on him.
He was really hot.
And so, and he knew it.
We all knew it.
It wasn't, like, that hidden.
And so we kind of flirt back and forth.
And the guy, my boyfriend didn't seem to care, I guess.
I don't, I don't know if I don't remember that part too much, but he didn't seem to care.
Well, it ended when, when I was 18, and.
And we were out together all one night.
We were out fishing at his parents had bought a new house,
and they had a pond and had a dock.
We were all out fishing, all three of us one night.
And it got really flirty because it was boring to me.
I wasn't particularly fishing.
I know.
I don't get fishing guys.
My brother is a big fisherman.
I think he's like it's a brokeback mountain gay thing,
but everyone else seems to think he just actually enjoys sitting there,
doing nothing in the middle of the lake.
Like, I think it's so dull.
Yeah.
So, I mean, you know, they're just fishing.
I'm bored.
So I start, and it was summer and it's hot here in the summer.
So I was dressed scantily.
And we went back up to the house eventually.
And the house is completely empty because they hadn't moved in yet.
They were, I don't know.
I suppose they were remodeling some parts of it.
And it got to the point where they started chasing me around the house.
The two brothers?
Yeah, they'd chase me around the house, and when they'd catch me, they'd take clothes off, and I'd run and pretend like I didn't like it.
And they eventually got me naked, and we had an amazing brinketone together.
And it was a really, really, really, really good experience.
I thoroughly enjoyed it.
And then not too long after that, the guy and I broke up, and we didn't really, I mean, it wasn't like,
really bad, but we didn't keep in touch.
Okay, but before you go on to the other stuff,
because you have a lot of, like, interesting things that come
next, too, I know that. But, like, what I want to know
just about that scenario is
like, after it happened,
like, was your guy, the guy, like,
your boyfriend, was he freaked out, or
was he totally fine with it?
Because you fucked his
stepbrother, like, in front of him. Like, so your
threesome involved everything, right? Like, you
guys, you screwed them both, like,
everything kind of thing?
Yeah. Did you do a double?
Let me ask you this.
I have to.
Did you do a DP double penetration?
Yeah.
You did?
Yes.
Okay.
I admire girls that could do that.
Like, it looks really hard.
I really like, I enjoy that.
I do enjoy that.
And so it was the first time I never took, obviously, and I was nervous, but I did, I did enjoy it.
He didn't seem the boyfriend.
He didn't really seem jealous.
I think we both kind of knew we were maybe outgrowing the relationship.
a little bit, and so it probably wasn't going to be, you know, it wasn't going to lead to marriage
or something like that.
So I don't think he was too jealous.
It never came up as jealous me.
We'd talk about it a couple times, and then eventually, not too long after that, we broke up.
Right.
And did you ever screw that guy again?
You did, right?
Yes.
The stepbrother, right?
Like eight months later, he called me, and he said, are you interested in meeting up with
and just hooking up.
And I said, well, yeah, sure.
I mean, I wasn't dating anybody.
And so he said, well, what if I have another friend involved?
And I'm like, well, it would depend on who it is and what's going on.
And he told me, and I knew of this guy.
And so I was okay with it.
And he's like, well, I'll call you back in a few days and I'll give you the details.
And so he called me, he called me back.
And he's like, all right, we're going to pick you up.
and you're going to be wearing a mini skirt, like a dress, a mini dress that zips up, like, all the way up,
and stocking, and he told me what to wear and what to bring, and that they'd pick me up.
So the day came, and they did, they picked me up.
His friend was very, very wealthy.
His parents had left him a lot of money.
So he picked me up, they picked me up in a really nice car, and we went back to this guy's place.
And it was a really nice house.
They made drinks and they had pot and, you know, we kind of watched some movies, like, sort of watching a movie.
And then they just started ordering me around, you know, like get naked, stand in front of us.
Do this, do that, whatever.
And I gladly did it.
They were, I mean, I liked them both.
Right.
And he had to be.
And that was a turn on to you, right?
Like, I mean, you were into that.
Oh, sure.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, definitely.
I, you know, I like.
I like being bossed around.
I definitely identify as a submissive, and this guy kind of introduced me to that as far as, you know, like being restrained a little bit during sex or spank kind of snapped around a little bit.
And I enjoy that.
So them ordering me around, that worked for me definitely.
It was great.
And we screwed the whole night.
I mean, all three of us.
And then there was times when one of them would fall asleep.
and me and the other guy went to the hot stuff for quite a while and smoked a lot of pot in there while we had sex.
So, I mean, that was a really fun night.
I looked back with that with a lot of good memories.
Right.
And the other guy was hot.
Like, you were always into the stepbrother, right?
He was hot.
Was the other guy hot too?
Yeah, he was hot.
And they didn't do it.
They're not doing anything with each other, right?
They're straight guys doing with you, right?
And did you do double penetration?
Did you do double penetration with them too?
Yeah, I did a couple times that night with them.
Right.
But they were very straight.
I have to say I'm a little jealous.
I'm a little jealous.
I don't think, I mean, this is the truth.
And I've said this on my podcast before.
The double penetration thing I've done like with a toy and a guy because it's always
been, I think it's hot too.
But I've never felt like I could actually do two guys in the same time and feel okay
about it.
I don't know.
That's just me.
You know what I mean?
But like I do, but I do, that is a fantasy of mine.
that I don't know if I lived it out in real life, how I feel about it,
but I think it's great that you do and you have and you enjoy it, and it's cool.
Do you know what I mean?
So I'm a little jealous, but anyway, go on.
Well, I think a lot of that stems, too, is I've read a lot of erotica from the time I was really young,
and so I've read a lot about these things, and maybe it wasn't such a surprise,
and it was kind of intriguing then.
So it was kind of always fun to have read about these things and known about them
and then actually experience them.
Totally.
And so, yeah, that was a really good night.
That was a fun night.
And I think if he ever would have called me again, I probably would have, I would have jumped right on it.
But I think he's married now.
Which one?
The other guy or the stepbrother?
The stepbrother.
Right.
But you say that he introduced you to like rough sex bondage and stuff.
Like, did you guys get it on more than that?
Or was it that night that they did a lot of rough things to you?
Also, we're friends.
Like, before we, before we, before we.
ever had sex
and I think
we were friends
I mean
we really
he you know
we would talk about
different stuff
we like the same music
and we like the same
things and so he
kind of
introduced it to me
before we ever even
had sex you know
right you guys were always
talking about sex
with each other
yeah yeah
and he'd have
magazines and movies
or whatever
and so
and he was a lot
older and he
you know
had a woman that
was experienced
in that before
and so he
yeah he totally
introduced it to me
before
we really ever even had sex.
It was like a friend thing.
Right. So it was something that you were always looking into and you were like, you know,
sort of you knew you were into it anyway because he sort of brought it up and you were like,
oh yeah, I like this. So you were into the bond. You realize you're into that.
Right, right.
And you know, back then it wasn't like you could just jump on Google and.
It's so different, right?
Google anything.
And so it was like you were finding out your information from other people.
And so it's like now there's so much openness with it and like with fat life and and with all the people that, I mean, you can just find anybody.
You can just usually find it.
And it wasn't quite so easy.
I feel like in a weird.
For me.
Yeah.
No.
And I feel like a weird way.
I don't know about you.
And I don't know if I've talked about this on my show or because I know I recently talked about this.
I don't know if this was on my show or with a friend.
But like for me, I think it's kind of sad like what in when we were growing up because there wasn't the internet and all that free porn and you could just have whatever you want, whenever you want.
whenever you want or see whatever, you know, that they don't have that experience that we had when
we were younger where, like, if you got a new porn or you saw a dirty thing, you know what I mean?
Like it was like the most amazing thing ever because it wasn't so easily accessible.
You know, now you could be horny and go on and be like, oh, do I want to watch this?
And you're like, you could just push it to such limits and anything is available that it almost
takes something out of it, I think, for people.
You know, they don't, right?
Don't you agree?
Oh, yeah, I definitely.
I agree. I just think, you know, discovering something maybe by accident just because you happen to see it, you know, or whatever.
Now it's not saying you can just find whatever you want.
Yeah, it takes a fun out of it.
Right.
So to me, when we were younger, if you found anything, it was like the most illicit hot thing you've ever seen because you don't see things like that often.
It's not, it wasn't easily available.
So it's like, and now I think, you know, and I feel sad for the younger generation because they'll never have that feeling that we would have when we were younger when you, like I said, when you got that new porn or you found like.
like someone's porn and you looked at it, you know, or whatever that was.
Yeah.
Like, oh my God, it was like the hottest thing.
Now you could like, I could sometimes could be in the mood and be Googling a million
things that, and they don't do anything for me.
It's like overload, you know?
Yeah.
Yes, exactly.
Well, I mean, and, you know, like, then it was a big deal to third 18 so you
could go into the porn store.
Totally.
You know, the adult store.
And now, I mean, you could be, you could probably be a 13 year old and order anything
like that from Amazon just because.
Oh, yeah.
I once one day, I mean, I lived in the city and I had a really good friend who was 26, when I was like 26, his, it was like when 42nd Street in the city was 42nd Street where it was hardcore porn stuff, you know.
And my friend's family, his business was porn, you know, it was like a very legit old school, like his father, his grandfather started this business.
And he was taking over for his dad.
And so when I was in college, I worked for him and I would have to dupe porn, like dupe, like make copies of it and then write like the, like, write the blurbs and stuff.
And it was always fun for me.
So porn for me was always like a fun thing.
And I remember one year giving porn to everyone for Christmas because I had no money.
And I thought like, oh, I walked past this porn store and was like, you know, get like two things for 20 bucks.
And I'm like, oh, who's not going to love like a new porn?
You know, because no one wants to go to stores and buy it, you know.
So I went in and bought like 30 things of porn to give everybody.
And like the guy like gave me his card.
He thought I was like a hooker or something.
I don't know.
Because I was like, I want the boxes too.
These are presents.
You know, we want to give me the thing.
but you can't get that nowadays.
I don't even know why I brought up that story.
But go on to when you met.
Let's get back to you though, because I know that I only have you for a certain amount of time
and I want to make sure I get all your information.
So then you meet your husband, right?
Like, how old are you when you meet your guy that you're with now?
I was 22 when I met him.
And we met through friends and we just sort of, I don't know.
I mean, we hit it off.
had a lot in common and
you know
he was different than anybody I'd ever
really dated before and he's
he's a really nice
person you know some of the I've dated
some of the guys before
haven't we all?
Yeah so it's kind of
refreshing when you meet somebody that's really nice
and you know we had
a really good sex life
and then I had
my first my first child
and I don't
No, I guess, I think looking back, I know it was me, but I didn't realize it then that it was like my problem.
I think I had, like, put some of depression, you know.
Uh-huh.
You just, you're, everything changes after you have a baby.
And so I, that kind of got us into a slump, and then I wasn't interested in sex and we'd always had a, you know, a really healthy sex life.
And it wasn't, you know, kinky or anything like that.
It was good, right.
Yeah.
And so then we play a lot of video games and we were playing World of Warcraft.
What was it called?
And I met World of Warcraft.
Okay.
It's a big online game and you play with a whole bunch of people.
It's very social.
And so you end up playing with the same group of people all the time.
And, you know, I made friends online with a lot of the people.
Well, one of them was a guy and we started talking outside of,
of the game and we'd chat like all day because I wasn't working and my husband was and this guy
was at home working and so we would talk all day and it eventually turned to like sex stuff like
the BDSM stuff he was really really really into it and have lived that lifestyle for many years
and so of course naturally that intrigued me because I was having those texts and
that had always intrigued me anyways.
And we ended up having, you know, a relationship, basically, over the internet, an online
relationship where he was the dominant and I was the submissive.
And we would, you know, have phone sex and email pictures and stories and talks and everything
else.
And it...
Would you Skype or do, like, FaceTime?
Was that available at that time that you were doing this?
Yeah.
I mean, we would Skype, yes.
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
And was he married, by the way?
Was he married?
No.
Okay.
He was not married, no.
Mm-hmm.
And, I mean, he knew I was.
He knew my husband, too, because we all played together.
But it just, I don't know, it turned into, like, an obsession almost just because
every single day I could talk to him, and he'd tell me what I wanted to hear.
He was always writing me dirty stories, and I've always been, I'm a huge reader, and I'm a huge reader,
and I love erotica.
I read all the time.
You get turned on by what you hear.
Like some people are that way.
Oh, yeah, definitely. Totally.
And so he would write me these stories,
and sometimes he'd write them and then he'd read them and send them to me.
And, you know, they'd involve me or any number of situations.
And he just knew what to say.
And I enjoyed that early.
And then it all came crashing down, of course,
when I didn't know to cover my, how to cover my travel.
enough apparently because my husband
found some of the emails and
Oh my God. How long wait
But by the way how long was this
So how long were you guys sort of getting it on
via the internet
While you were before you got caught?
Oh really? So you have
I mean that's the whole thing with cheating and people say it all the time
Like it is kind of easy like you can do it and not get caught if
You know you have half a brain
I mean you'll tell me how you got caught right like I mean you
You got it on with this guy for years
And now that whole time that you were doing it with him
Was your sex life with your husband still kind of lame?
Yes.
So it didn't help your sex life with your guy.
You were just sort of getting your rocks off someplace else.
No, because, right, because I wasn't pursuing that.
And I don't know.
It was kind of dysfunctional.
We were having, you know, there was other underlying issues.
It wasn't just our sex life.
So it was a whole thing.
And then when he found out, it was like, he was immediately, of course,
ready to just say leave.
I'm not going to, this is cheating.
You're cheating.
How did he find out? Tell me what happened.
Because every time he'd come into the room, I'd like turn off the computer.
I was acting weird, I guess.
Of course. I'm sure it was obvious, right.
Yeah, and he checked my email, and they were right there.
And then he found a couple pictures I had sent, you know, and so that didn't go over too well.
And it wasn't good.
But we, he's, I ended up staying and he said that was fine.
We could work, we could try to work things out.
But there wasn't a guarantee that it was going to be worked out.
It was just like, you can't just kick me out in the middle of the night, like the second you find this out.
It just wasn't going to happen.
And so we, I immediately, like that very same night, I canceled my email address.
I mean, I canceled everything.
I dropped it. I have not had any ounce of communication with this man.
Yeah, I was going to say, did he contact the guy or say anything?
Or you just like, it just stopped and deleted everything?
It just stopped.
And sometimes I think about that and I like, I'll feel a little bit bad because, you know, he doesn't know what happened.
But he could probably put it together.
I was like, you know, at that moment I had to decide if I wanted to like, like,
pursue this guy that lived halfway across the country that, you know, who knows what he was telling me was completely true about him.
Exactly.
You know, he might have been married.
I mean, I don't know.
Exactly.
I don't think so.
But so, you know, or do I want to try to save my marriage?
Because I do love my husband and I do love my kids and my family.
So I decided at that exact second.
I'm like, okay, well, I'm going to just drop this other kind of flat on his face because I, he's not.
I like the whole excitement of everything, but do I really know him?
I don't know.
Right.
What are the odds that that's going to turn out to be something, like very slim to none?
Right.
And, you know, I have kids and stuff.
I'm not going to try to fly halfway across the country to meet some guy that I perhaps don't know as well as I think I do.
Right.
And we, we, you know, my husband and I, it took a long, long time because this has been three or four years ago.
And we just sat down.
And we told each other what was going on on each of our ends, you know, in the marriage that's why it wasn't maybe working or what was working.
Although at that point, it was like a lot of anger.
And we worked it out.
And I think it was really close to divorce.
And I really think that most people probably would have just been like, fuck it, I'm done.
Right.
I'm not going to deal with this.
But we decided not to do that.
And I'm really, really glad we did decide that because now today, like, our sex life is amazing.
And it's been because I've been open.
I opened up to him and I'm like, you know, I need a certain amount of cake in my sex life.
I can't just have a vanilla life.
And I know that about myself now.
And he never knew that about you before.
No, I mean, he knew I was a little bit freaky, you know?
I mean, we've had like anal sex into him that was, you know, really the craziest thing.
Right.
Yeah.
And, you know, he's been a little bit sheltered in that way.
And so I just brought it to him in a positive, you know, informed way and said, let's look at it together and figure out what you like in this world that will work with what I like in this world.
Right.
And so we can, you know, like come together that way.
And because we've come together finally in our sex life together, it's made everything else, you know, that much better.
Right.
Like all the other stuff in your relationship, you mean.
Right.
Like, you know, emotionally we're obviously a lot closer now because, well, we're, for one thing, we're communicating a lot more.
But, you know, when you're married to someone and you're not having sex with them, I just don't think you can feel that close to them.
Like, I don't know.
It's a part of it.
It's a part of being intimate, you know what I mean?
That's the different, you know, and it has to, it's not everything.
I mean, some people think, oh, it's everything.
It's not everything, but it's not, it can't be nothing either.
You know, it has to be a part of the pie.
You know, it has to be a piece of that pie, you know.
And I think all the pieces should be sort of equal, you know, but you have different parts that you're,
you have together with somebody.
But it has to be there and it should be healthy night.
But I think anytime you're married with anyone for a long period of time,
to think that you're never going to go through a really rough patch, you know what I mean,
is unrealistic.
You know, it's a matter of like whether you're willing to sort of stick it around and work
through it.
And I always hear people like you when they do.
And I think when you have kids and stuff, I think it's really ridiculous sometimes when
people that have been together for a really long time and someone cheats ones that they,
they're like, oh my God, it's black and white.
I have to leave this person.
I think that's like bullshit because a lot of times, you know, cheating and unfaithfulness,
it seems like terrible.
Like if you hear it out of context, when you hear it in the whole story,
sometimes it's like you understand how.
it happens and sometimes people cheat and it's not something that they want to do and it happens
because of different problems but it can be resolved and you could work through it and it doesn't mean
once a cheater always a cheater people try to be so black and white about it and it's so stupid you know
you can't really look at things like in your relationship with you and your guy like you went through
that you have been married a long time I think children always change relationships and it's hard
both on the men and the woman for different reasons but you know you hear that all the time
but it worked for you guys and I think that that's great
and when you have kids I think it's worth it
and smart I think it's great when couples do what you guys do
and work through the hard times instead of just saying
you know I'm out of here and you're smart let me tell you
I'm obsessed with date lines and 48 hours like I watch those things all the time
and I think it's because you were the woman and you were cheating
because how many times I've seen on dateline these shows where
the guy is the one that's having an affair
with somebody that lives somewhere else that he doesn't even know
he winds up leaving his wife for that girl
he winds up like killing his wife and then that other girl is crazy or she kills him and it's just like why are these guys so stupid like you just think this person that you're having an affair with it's so hot you think it's better than your real relationship it's like you're living in fantasy land of course it's better it's like non-existent it's like you know what I mean it's not a real relationship it's like so it's like you were at least smart enough to know that it's like how at the time these guys are like so fucking dumb they just see a new piece of ass and they're like oh my god this is going to be better than what I have but it's like
That piece of ass is going to be the same real relationship with all these other things, too, if you go there, you know?
Yep.
But at least you were smart enough to realize that.
Yeah, well, I'm thankful, too, because I just don't know.
I mean, you can, somebody can tell you anything that they want to over the Internet for a number of years.
I mean, it really can, and you can make anybody believe anything if they really want to.
And it wasn't worth dropping my whole life to go chase an unknown.
Not to me.
I'm not that much of a risk taker, I guess.
No, you're just no more, I don't think it's about being a risk taker at all.
Absolutely not.
I don't think that's what it's about.
It's about being, like, less grounded.
I think you're just more grounded.
I could get that sense just from talking to you, you know, and you're more, you live more
in reality than fantasy land.
I think a lot of people have issues and they like to check out and they check out through
having these kind of affairs.
And it's like, you know, it's a, it's a problem.
You know, it's a dysfunction.
And so, of course, that other thing that isn't really realistic, they could live in that fantasy
land, but it's like not a real relationship.
A real relationship is what you have with your husband, you know?
And it's a lot of different things.
And just because the sex has gone off the window, doesn't mean you can't work on it or change
it.
Like you said, like you have a better sex like with him now.
And I think that that's a great testament to like how, like, you know, just because something's
bad doesn't mean that it can't go back to being good or if not better.
Like you're, it's better with him, right?
And did he ever cop to cheating on you?
Like was there any sort of things going on as far as affairs are concerned on his end?
Because you weren't having sex with him either.
No.
No, I really, really, really do not.
I don't see.
He's just not that type of person.
And I just don't get that feeling.
And if he ever has, then that's in the past.
And I don't want to know about it now.
But I think you would know.
I think if you don't, listen, I don't think every guy cheats.
I think most guys cheat.
a lot of guys cheat. I have a lot of guy friends, but there's like a good 10% that just don't. And you know
those guys from a mile away. Like I just feel, you know what I mean? That's why I think you married him
because you said he was like a really nice guy, like nice to the core, you know. I meet a lot of nice
guys, but they all have that sleaze factor or that just guy thing that's like, you know,
they just are going to fuck the next hot girl that when you turn your back. You know, it's
a lot of guys are just wired that way. And I don't even think it's necessarily a bad thing.
It's a guy thing. But there are those guys and it's like a breed. I always call it. It's like a
certain breed of guy that they just wouldn't and you just know those guys so I believe you when
you say that he wouldn't you know you're probably right in that assessment you were the cheater
not him yeah yeah it was totally me well I don't think it was him at all because I mean he was
you know there were times where he'd still want to initiate it and it was me like oh no I don't feel
good or any number of reasons and so it wasn't like he wasn't funny if you you you know I'm I'm
I know he took care of himself quite a few
times because I wasn't interested and I wasn't interested because I was, you know, cheating.
And I wouldn't necessarily, I'm not necessarily good, I mean, not from my relationship.
I wouldn't say it would work.
But, you know, there's relationships that are open and having sex with other people.
It's great.
That's fine.
If that works for them, that's great.
But this was more than that because I was emotionally, like, I, looking back, I know I was
emotionally invested in this other guy, too.
It wasn't just like, oh, it's a good time.
get off. Of course. Right. How could it stay that way? Because it's like it was a three-year
thing. I mean, you know. Yeah. So it has to involve other things after a certain point. At least for
women, I don't know. Men say that they could like just have sex that someone had never developed
feelings. I don't know. You know, that guy on the other end, he was like, okay, that bitch either
died or her husband caught her. Like those are the only two reasons for why you would just
completely disappear. Did he know like your real name and information and stuff? Did you ever
give him that information? Like, could he look you up?
Yes. Yeah, we, I knew, I knew his real name. He knew my real name. He, he, he's, I, we had,
I had written him, like, an actual letter in my handwriting to mail to him because he wanted
that. And he had mailed me some, a couple things. And so, yeah, we, I mean, we knew each other,
you know, our real names and everything. And so. But he never tried to reach out after you
disappeared. Like, he didn't sort of go after you.
like, and get you back.
Right.
That's good.
That's better for you.
You're probably right.
Yeah, he probably knew what happening because he knew I was married and he, you know,
he knew the risk there.
So you're right.
Once I probably just like fell off the face of the earth, he probably realized.
I mean, we had been friends on Facebook and everything.
And so I, I'd be friend of them.
I mean, every, every contact, all contact.
Oh, yeah.
No, if you had him on your Facebook and you'd different him, he knew for sure you got busted.
Yeah, that's true.
And how long did it take you do you feel like for your husband to trust you again?
Because he must have like...
For the while.
Right.
When you say a while, do you like a year, like six months, two years?
Because I think that that's hard.
I think that's the hardest thing for the other person.
I think that's what's so devastating with cheating.
I think people can work it out, but it really sucks more.
I feel like sometimes for the person that gets cheated on.
Because for you, you had to like give up your guy, right?
And just cut those ties.
But for your husband or even for the woman in the situation, you know, they have to rebuild
trust and that's so hard to do, you know, when somebody that you trusted completely shows another
side of themselves that you didn't know existed, you know, he obviously trusted you before, right?
It must have been like a total slap in the face.
Right.
And it was.
And that's, I know that's how he felt because he told me, you know, that's how he felt.
And it did take a long time.
And it took a long time of me, like, really working my ass off to prove to him that this is what I wanted.
And I wasn't going to, like, go out.
again and and and it has I mean did it was a bold disclosure like did you did he check your phone like you know did you like sort of you know when he got paranoid or just trustful did you like sort of show him stuff you know what I mean like was it was it was how did that work like we didn't I didn't use my phone with with with with the guy just because I was like that that freaks me out from like I'm going to get caught right if I'm like if I'm like you're like you
in my phone and because my husband like looks at the bill and stuff and if there's a whole bunch
of like texting calls from some new jersey number it's not going to go over well yeah you know what i
mean like randomly so i kept it all to email and and you know like online stuff and i didn't
keep like i sent pictures and there was like videos and stuff but i don't keep them around
really after i sent them i i erased him because i was afraid of him being the
because he'd always be like, oh, you should let me take pictures of you.
And I was always like, no, I don't, like, why do you need pictures of me?
I'm like right here.
And here I was sending pictures to someone else.
Right.
And so that was, that really hurt.
And so I had to eerie with him.
There just happened to be the last couple days of emails, you know.
And he just happened to find him.
And so, I mean, I told him everything that happened.
And it's not like, I didn't tell him the gory details as far as like, oh, he really made me come really good.
His stories really, you know, got me off.
It didn't hurt him or he things like that.
You didn't tell him what you didn't have to tell him or what he didn't know.
And there's no need for that.
Right.
You know, when people, I remember once I had a caller who like was a cheater or he didn't even get caught.
He felt like I had to tell.
I just think it's really selfish when people who are cheating, like make themselves feel better by sort of copping to it or whatever.
I don't think that that's always the best thing.
I mean, your guy found out, so you had to let him know.
But you didn't, like you said, have to let him know about the gory details and make him feel even worse.
You know, it's bad enough to know, you know.
That would be like, what's the point of that, you know?
What's the difference?
Yeah, it's like rubbing it in.
Yeah, totally.
And if you were stopping and you were really done and you knew for sure, then does it hurt to not let him know all that?
No, I think it's actually nicer thing to do.
I don't think that's, and I'm a very honest person and I believe in honesty, you know,
I don't think that that's dishonest in a bad way.
I think that that's when it's okay to be dishonest, you know?
Yeah, you don't need to, like, cruelly hurt someone.
No.
It was already bad enough.
So it, and, you know, that's the part, like, I felt the affair winding down just because
I was having this overload of this isn't what I'm supposed to be doing.
And I am, that's probably, that's, that is the most dishonest thing I've ever done.
Right.
I mean, it really is.
I don't like to be dishonest.
It just, you know, it happened.
It wasn't like on purpose.
I wasn't searching for it.
It just happened.
It's just part of my life that happened.
Yeah.
And so, you know, I definitely felt rotten about myself at the time.
And that's probably like I wasn't like communicating with my husband or having sexed him because I did.
I felt bad in a way because I knew I was deceiving him.
Right.
You were like basically at work.
You know.
Yeah.
So there was definitely.
a lot of that
going on. Yeah, for sure.
But yeah, it's like, listen,
I think that it's great when people
like you tell their story because I
think that people, like I said, when you take
cheating stories or situations out of
context and you just say, this person cheated in this
person, you could just be like, oh, she's a
whore and he should leave her, you know, and
that's it. But if you really talk to most
people, like sometimes things happen.
Like you said, you didn't go
out looking for an affair.
You know, it just happens. And that's the scary.
thing about relationships
and especially now with social media and everything
that goes on on the internet like look you met this guy
through a gaming site you know like
now people are so connected with
strangers that it's so easy if you're
feeling any kind of dissatisfaction
in your relationship to start for something
like that to start without you even
I don't think people intend listen there are
some guys and women out there that are
completely intentionally doing it and that's
a whole different thing but a lot of times
these kind of cheating scenarios just happen
without, when you're not really thinking about it, you're not a terrible person.
It's just like, it's, you know, it's just an issue.
It's a part of your story.
And in the long run, when you look back at it now, because we're not talking to you right
after it happened, you know, it's great to see how the stories progress.
That it actually, you'll probably say it was good for your relationship in a way
because it brought all the garbage out so you guys could like discuss it and fix it.
Because if not for that thing, you guys would have still just continued to be living
like separate lives with each other if you didn't get caught, right?
I mean, who was going to bring it up?
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't bring it up.
No, you would have just kept getting your rocks off somewhere else
because that was easier than doing what you and your husband had to do,
which was really face your problems, really talk about it,
and do like the hard work.
But I think it's great that you guys did.
And it was, I mean, it's still, it is, you know,
I feel like looking back because I still, I mean,
I still feel young sometimes, but I was really young when I got married.
you know, there's 22 isn't that old to be with someone for, you know, for a long time.
And so I've grown massive amounts since then.
And that one, that period of my life really made me grow.
I mean, you know, my early 30s until now, I've grown a ton just because of not necessarily the good experiences,
but those negative ones that have helped me along my way and helped me and my husband,
because you're right, it has.
that if that one that's happened and I wouldn't have gotten caught who knows what we'd be we probably wouldn't be together we probably would be divorced right exactly and it might have not been because he found out it might not been because you had to relate it just would have been because you guys just were so like you just were looking in opposite directions that your relationship just deteriorated beyond repair like and you just couldn't so like thank god that that happened in a way because it it happened at the time where you guys could still make it work and I think of it right there was there wasn't
huge disconnect and it let us reconnect.
So, you know, you can't look back completely negative on things because, you know, it shapes
who you are today and it really did shape our relationship now.
Yeah, I don't think that.
That's why I like to tell, like, I think it's great that, you know, we're talking to you like
three years out because if it just happened, like, sometimes things seem like terrible things
and you don't really know how great they are until a couple of years later, no matter what
it is in your life, you know?
I mean, I believe that that's what life's about.
I think everything that happens to us, even the harshest things.
And most of the time, those are the things that teach us the most.
And those are the things that you're like, oh, wow, I'm so grateful.
I've had a lot of douchebag guys in my life.
But I look at them as like, oh, blessings that came, you know, people that came into my life that taught me certain things.
And that's what I needed to do.
They're not terrible people.
Like, I believe, you know, you attract situations to yourself so that you could grow and change and do the things that you need to do.
And it's all, that's just life, you know.
And if anyone thinks they're going to avoid things like that.
they're just, they're really not living.
You know, living is not about being happy all the time and being perfect and doing everything
right.
You know, you don't grow that way.
It's just not the way that it goes.
We're all fucking imperfect, crazy people, you know, and we learn the way we learn and the
way we have to.
And, you know, that's just the way that it goes.
But I think, you know, your story is interesting because, like I said, it shows the progression
of everything that you've been through and you guys are in a better place.
And that shows that, you know, that can happen for other people.
Yep.
I agree.
and I think more people should, you know, try to fight if they want to.
Obviously, I'm not against divorce at all.
Right.
My parents are divorced and I totally advocated for them to get a divorce.
Right, when it's so toxic.
Yeah.
But it seemed like you and your guy, like it wasn't like, like you guys just thought, like you said, there was like a disconnect.
I think sometimes, you know, you see people in their in relationships and it's just like, it's like someone's trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.
Like it's just not right.
You know what I mean?
And it's not because they disconnected or because a child came into play.
It's like they're just fundamentally not right for each other, you know?
And those kind of relationships, you're like, oh, thank God they got divorced or broken up.
Yeah, yeah.
It's so toxic to be around that energy of two people that just shouldn't be with each other.
But it doesn't seem like, I mean, you said your guy was like a nice guy and you seem like really grounded and you were like a relationship person.
So it seems like you guys were right and compatible with each other.
You just went through a difficult time, like, which is very normal after being with someone for that many years at that time in your life.
You're completely right.
I'm going to 46.
Like you change so much as a person, you know, from like a 20 to 35.
Like it's insane.
And then you keep changing in your 40s, but it's a different kind of changing.
But you wear many different faces, you know, when you're in 20s.
And I didn't have kids or get married.
I would have fucked everything up if I did.
So I can be credit that you were able to hold it together.
You know, you're pretty stable for your age, you know, to be able to sort of go through all that changes and still stay on the same page and be able to make a relationship work.
I think that that's really hard to do.
because you are changing and growing at that time in your life.
So I think it's, you know, whether you broke up and even if you, you know, you and your husband
divorced two years from now, it still wouldn't be a failure.
Like that's a big success.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I totally agree.
I wouldn't feel like anything we've done has been a failure up to this point.
We've managed to stay together for a really, really long time.
I mean, 14 years we've been together, and that's a long time.
That's very long.
And I can't stand when people think that like, oh, a marriage failed if they broke up after, you know, 10 years or 8 years or 15 years or 30.
It's like, that's like, that's like, just the way life goes.
It's like very rare that maybe you're going to meet somebody that's going to stay on the same path and just be meant to stay by you doing the same thing your whole life, you know?
Some people have that.
Some people don't.
But like 14 years is a really long time.
And maybe you will go the distance with him and that's great.
But even if you didn't, like you said at this point, it would still be like,
a really successful relationship.
I don't think, I don't see divorce as a failure.
Sometimes it's just,
it's just a change of life.
You know, it's just a change.
And people look at it very negatively, you know.
Yeah, I agree.
You know, like I said, I'm not against divorce.
Sometimes you're right.
People do change.
I mean, I've changed a lot.
And luckily, he's changed enough in the same way.
Well, you know, it's not like we grew apart.
Uh-huh.
How old are your kids now?
11 and 8.
Right.
And no more kids, right?
So you passed the like the difficult kid thing.
Oh, right.
Yeah, no more kids.
That's great.
So I think it's a, I'm glad you called in because I don't know like, I mean,
I think people will really be into like the hot stories of all your three sons and stuff.
But I also think it's interesting, you know, how you got through a cheating scenario and
distrust in a relationship and a major break like that and how you came back together.
For me, that's what I take out of it.
And I think it's really great for it to talk about it and let people.
here in real life how things work, you know, in context.
Yeah.
I mean, it'd be nice if it, you know, somebody heard it and it helped them too.
But yeah, it's nice to just get everything out and say your story because, you know,
not everybody knows.
I mean, not everybody knows that I had crazy threesome with two dudes at once.
And not everybody needs to know that.
Right.
But isn't it fun to kind of like let people know and relive?
I mean, there was a Brazilian girl that, there was a Brazilian girl that called in recently.
And she was just like, she was lived in New York
and she was like this girl that was like obsessed with this guy
who wasn't so great.
But she really was into him sexually.
So she just get wasted and then drunk dial him and go and have sex with him.
And she really made me miss that time in my life.
You know, I'm older now.
I don't do those kind of things.
And I'm not going to go back to it.
But it's fun sometimes to sort of reminisce about it or remember those days,
you know, because you're like, oh, the good old days.
When you didn't give a shit about it.
Look, you're having sex all day because there's nothing else to do.
You're having threesome's whatever.
You know, and it's not all serious.
you know, so I think it's fun sometimes to go back and relive those times because when you get
older, it's just not about that anymore. It's just other things. Right. I love reliving those memories.
It's great. That's nice to be able to talk about it because, you know, not everybody wants to hear
about your sex life. So. And people will be very judgmental. People will be very judgmental.
It's sad, but true. Especially more so it sucks. I think more so for women than men, you know?
I just, it still is that way. It's ridiculous. Like, men could go out and fuck a million people,
but if they found out like a girl like you're 14 you had sex if they found out you had three sums oh my god
forget about it but a girl a guy with two girls oh my god that is like he gets trophies for that shit you know
it's still a little bit of a double standard so you should probably keep your stories a little bit to yourself
you know because i think people unfortunately tend to be too judgmental but you know i know my listeners
i know my listeners are going to love those stories well good so thanks for calling in rainbow i love your name
I didn't call you Rainbow as much as I should have.
People would call in like, oh, Joe or Jim, these guys.
No one's, like, interesting.
But I think I have a guy named Cotton calling this week, and I have Rainbow.
So I have good names this week.
So good.
So thanks for calling in and thanks for being a listener to show.
And if anything ever happens in the future, you know, I always have repeat callers on.
If, like, you have another illicit affair, which I hope you don't.
You know, we'll definitely have you back on.
All right.
Well, thank you for having me.
Thanks.
Bye.
Bye.
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