Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 070 - Jerry is Addicted to Crazy Women

Episode Date: April 20, 2015

Jerry cant help but be attracted to crazy women. His first ex-wife cheated on him, his second wife tried to kill him with an ax and every women he's dated since, seems to be totally nuts as well. Is he attracted to crazy because he doesn't really want a rreal elationship, or because his mom was crazy, or is he attracted to crazy becasue he's crazy? Tune in to find out plus hear the details about all of his dysfuntional relationships. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. The Craigslist is definitely like the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it. The temptation is just too much. With real problems.

Your friend know that you're banging her or no. No, he has no idea. And anything goes. The motto of the show, let your freak flag fly. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to re-hoblon. hide your whips and shame. Here is your host, Kathy. Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the strictly anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow the show at Strict Anonymous.

But today I actually have on a guy who I met. And I know, this isn't someone from Craigslist. This is someone that emailed me after we had Matt and he knew I had a podcast. And he was like, hey, can I, do you want to co-host? You know, I'd love to be a co-host on the show because he's into podcast and stuff and he's a guy that's like doing comedy and stuff on the side and I was like I don't really need a co-host I prefer to have a co-host that I know and that's here with me in studio talking as opposed to over the phone this guy lives in or wherever I can't say where he lives. I'm going to delete that and so but I was like if you want to be on the show that'd be great do you think like is there anything you want to talk about to you have an issue or a problem and then he started to just like list all the

crazy scenarios with crazy girls that he's had he's one of these guys he's like a really nice guy that dates crazy girl crazy girls like or you know the nice guy that's like attracted to crazy I know you know one we all know one I know like five it's a breed and he's that breed and he's here to talk about and he has a lot of crazy stories I've already done the podcast a little while ago he's a lot of crazy stories about all the crazy girls that he dated and fucked and married and all that kind of good stuff so I don't remember what I'm calling him because we made up a name and I just don't feel like looking for it right now but I'll be back on with whoever that is, okay?

I'll be right back. Hey, Jerry, how are you? You're on the strictly anonymous podcast with Kathy. So listen, this is, I got to explain to everyone the deal because I know you. It's not really anonymous, but I am making up a name for you just because I don't know why, but because you should just be anonymous just a case because I am going to talk about how we met and that will bring up like the person that we mutually know, maybe? I don't know.

Right. This is the deal. I met Jerry. Jerry came into town. with my sister's friend. You were dating, banging. What were you guys doing? Dating? Banging?

Both? Yeah, okay. Something halfway between two of those. So you were like, something between banging and dating? What's between banging and dating? Like friends with benefits? You know, it was a more,

no, because we both sort of had outside friends with benefits while we were dating. So you had an open relationship. friendship? Yeah, it was semi-open. I think we each had one other person. You, and you both knew about it?

Yeah, we both knew about it. And for separate reasons, we both really couldn't be with that other person whole time. So, I mean, in the sense of like dating, I mean, we were the ones who would go out on a daily basis, you know, to dinner for drinks and sex. And then when we could be with our other people, we were with our other people. right so you came into town with my sister's friend and when you were dating her and then we were talking and you found out about my podcast and I told you about it and then you guys eventually split up or whatever happened I mean this girl that I know I mean she's insane and then when you emailed me to be on the show and you emailed me like a whole bunch of like situations that you've been in that maybe you could talk about I was like oh you probably just like attract the insane people because you to date that girl is to sort of be attracted to that type, right? I mean, you like, hooked up with her. And she's like, I always believe that I'm going to see her one day on like an episode of Dateline or something. She's totally like, not that she would kill somebody, but she'll get killed. Right. Yeah, she's, and she might be

sort of typically what I've attracted. I mean, I'm a professional and I've had a, what I'll call a normal marriage for a long time. And I got divorced there. And, And then I think that's when I started attracting, we'll call it, that's crazy. Well, okay, you know her well. I mean, she's kind of crazy. Well, 100% crazy. Total drama-filled, total drama-filled crazy. Not bad.

I mean, I think she's hilarious. But, you know, you can't take that seriously. No, and I don't think we went. I mean, it was never sort of intended to be serious. No. No, to be honest, when it ended, I was kind of upset. And had it end. So you're having this friends with benefit situation.

Let's just talk about this situation first because you're dating this girl that I know, that I know of. And she's just a total train wreck, probably because of issues and stuff. We won't get into her things, you know, but she's always got a lot of crazy shit going on, you know. And I do tend to believe that like attracts like. And maybe because you had, I see a lot of guys, you know, in our age range that are. divorced, you know, and then they start to say, like, like you said, like, and then all of a sudden they start to go with all these, like, crazy bitches and stuff. And it's like, maybe on a certain level it's because you're not really looking to get locked down in another relationship. So, you know,

you sort of go for people that on some level, you know you can't wind up in that kind of a relationship with. You think maybe that's the case? Possibly, but my problem, I think partly, I try to make it work. So my... With the crazies. My second wife who I, who I was married to... right before I did your friend, was probably, possibly, um,

crazy. Um, but my problem there is I'm hooked on that second wife. Like I, you know, she kind of comes in and out of my life. Oh, so you just love crazy.

And, you know, I would, listen, I only met you one night, right? Like for a couple of hours, but I could get a good sense of somebody.

And you're like a really nice guy to me. Like, that's what, like, guys like you, nice guys. Like they do like the crazies because they're like they like to help them. It's like maybe it's like that sort of part of you. Like do you like to help these women?

I mean, I've pointed that out in my, I mean, and I do best in that part of the relationship where, you know, the woman needs help. You're saving them. And it usually goes well during that time. And then one sort of like the real relationship sort of has to come in. it falls apart. Right. And you're like, when you say you're a professional, you're a lawyer.

Like you have your own practice. Like I'll tell the truth about that right because nobody knows who the hell you are. But you're really like you're a lawyer. You have your own practice. Like you're very professional. You have to be super smart. Right. And yet you have the side of you.

And I've seen it before. And there's women like that too. There's women that are like so amazing at their jobs or in their work. Or like, you know, in their career. But yet when it comes to men in their life, they're like completely like the opposite. You know, they sort of don't have any control or they're sort of crazy. So it's like, you have this one side of you that's a lawyer and you're really professional and probably buttoned up over there. But then, you know, you want to like save these crazy bitches. I've seen

it before. It's a type. You're a type. I'm trying to break out of my type. You are? I am. Well, I guess we'll get up to it and I'll go into some of my latest relationship in a bit. Yeah. But we were talking about the friends with benefits situation. Yeah. It was actually probably, and I'll just, oh, I don't need a name for her. What is call her FWB, Friends of Benefits, Flow, we'll just, we'll just, we'll just go out the athlete of Friends of Benefits. Flo, who I've known since in college.

It actually dated my best friend, and before Facebook and everything came on, I hadn't talked to her in 15 years. And sort of our last interaction 20 years ago was she broke out with my friend, and she was giving me a ride home from a bar. I went to kiss her, and she kind of just rebuffed me. And that was the last time I heard from her in 15 years. And finally, I'll hook back up on Facebook a few years ago. And the first thing, well, not the first thing, but, you know, I just wanted to apologize.

You know, that was wrong of me trying to kiss you back then. You know, you didn't want that. And she goes, no, I really wanted you to then. It was just that I had dated your best friend and it would have been wrong. So she and I sort of, and this was right after I got divorced the first time. And the first marriage was like my long marriage. I had my child and I've married 12 years. Right.

So we sort of became friends and flirting and she lived in a different state than I did. So we didn't get together for a long time, actually physically get together for a few years. Does she live, like I know where you live, does she live in the same state as you do or in the same city? Are you guys close where you live or no? No. She lives a few states away. Okay, cool. So it took years before you guys hooked up again.

Right. And there was an incident. Right after I got married the second time. She had just sent me a message on Facebook that, hey, her husband and her had just gotten. divorced. And I messaged back bad timing. It's a bad timing.

I just got married. Oh, yes, that is bad timing. That kind of sucks. It was a tongue-in-cheek joke. But, and honestly, I didn't,

having been involved in my first marriage with cheating, being a cheater and being cheated on. Oh, you both cheated in the first marriage. Who cheated first? I did.

Okay. Well, I don't know. In my defense, Yeah. I left first. I mean, I had the person there. I left, got with the person I had the affair with,

and then went back to my wife. But if that's what that happened. You were on a break. I'm going with her on a break. Totally. It's a total. And it's sort of, well, you know what, we'll backtrack. We'll go with that story for a second.

You cheated on her. You guys had a break. Things were going south. And then you found out she was cheat then eventually when you guys went back together. She started cheating. Well, I wish it was that simple that I found out. I would, it took about two years for me to figure it out. I was suspicious and I would accuse her when I real, but she would come back at me constantly with,

what are you talking about? You're the one that cheated and you don't trust me. And this went on for the point where I was completely paranoid. I started checking your emails and phones and I couldn't find anything, but it was just something wasn't sitting right. Right. You wouldn't be that paranoid for no reason unless you're a psychopath. That's what I always tell

my guy friends and people like a lot of times when someone's like flipping out and like unless they're really like a bipolar situation. You know, most people get really distrustful when they're with someone that can't be trusted. And I'll finish this part of it and I think this might be why I have

you could just go crazy and people I know aren't going to relationship. So this is going on for two years where I'm suspecting her. And we're living in the South, and she gets a chance to get a job out west. And at this point, I've been trying to be the good husband who cheated, even though I'm sort of suspecting her. And I'm like, you know what? All right, we'll move, you know, 1,500 miles away.

But what I had been doing, and she worked out of the house, worked for a big company, but she worked from home. And I was putting a tape recorder in her office. And after she go to bed, I have to sit at night and, like, listening to fast forward with all her conversations. I thought I was going insane. And finally, right after I agreed to move, I finally heard the conversation because that guy worked with the same company, and he worked in that office that way. Oh, interesting. So she was moving you to closer to him.

Right. And so I flipped out. You know, it's like three in the morning I woke up. I'm listening to these tapes. and I think this is where my distrust really comes from. We have a daughter. She's there for a few months, and every Monday morning, she's dropping me at the plane.

I'm coming back south and going to my office and working. Friday I go back out west, and it goes on for a few months. And I said, look, did you quit? You know, did you find another job? Do you quit yet? Because this is getting a little nuts. And this is like three months in. At the end of the year, she goes, look, up the space at the end of the year.

I'm going to get this big phone. you know, that way at least if I leave the job and have the money, so I say a few more, you know, a few more months. So I have six months rolls along. And now I'm an attorney, and I should be smarter about this. And I'm working with this other attorney and she's like, you know, your wife's setting you up. And I said, no, we're going to counseling. I thought we were even trying to have another child.

Meanwhile, essentially she's setting me up. So there's one Monday morning. She drops me off at the airport. Kiss goodbye. I'll see you Friday. she drives off and then a process server walks up to me in the airport and like boom here's your divorce papers oh no way and so where the way this works is you know wherever the child is for six months that's where the child's residence is so and of course the other guy filed for divorce at the same time

and they were they were going to be happily after so um that's that's a big mistrust i think part of my mistrust for women. This is five years later. I still fly back and forth every month. Well, you know what I think it is? I think it's really hard because, like, it's not just like what she was doing that was so deceitful. It's like even that you, like, I think it's really hard when you're sort of like

there that last day, right? And you're at the airport and you're saying goodbye. And she's looking you straight in the face and she's completely like pulling your chain. You know what I mean? You have no idea. Like shit like that I think is really like it makes it really hard to trust in the future when somebody's really just like in front of you completely living a total lie you know straight to your face it's not even like you know what i mean like that day she she knew the whole

time she's going to serve you and she's like giving you kisses and shit like that's fucked up oh it was beyond looking back every now and then something will still pop in the head like oh shit she did i thought we were you know we were trying to have a child so it's these little sticks that didn't tell you when you're ovulating with the ones a good time to yeah try And suppose, you know, I wasn't there all, you know, for the last six months. I didn't, so supposedly she was using them. So that morning, I was like, oh, I was first used this, you know, and she had no clue how to use it in my head.

I'm like, wait a minute, she's been using these for six months. How did she, you know, she makes some excuse like, oh, it's a different brand or something. I mean, I wasn't thinking it all the way through. Right. And there's some of the little things like that. You know, she had like, your brother-in-law, you know, call me the day before and make plans for the future. so I wouldn't suspect that something was going on. So I was with that what became the, my second lot was out there out west.

And it was a bad relation. We were together for three years, we were only married for about two months because every few months I would leave because it was just horrible. This is the second marriage or the first one? I'm so confused. This is the second marriage. So you wind up married? Okay.

But wait, so you end in your divorce? with this girl. I'm getting back to the original story, okay, and then there's this girl flow in between who's someone from your past kind of like the one that got away maybe, right? And then you marry another woman and that's like not a good relationship, obviously because you're two months into it

you're like leaving because it sucks, right? Well, well kind of because, okay, so going back to the whole reason I came up for the favorite story was I would always leave my Facebook on. I, you know, I didn't log out of it. I didn't think I was ever doing anything wrong.

But I had left that message update, the bad timing message. I didn't leave on the screen, but it was just, I didn't realize she just went through my Facebook whenever I was out of the house. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And so she sees it. I don't know she's seen it. And she goes through and delete every woman on my Facebook who she thinks I might have had any interest or ever been with or ever. And basically probably about, you know, 30.

women who she thought were a threat. Oh, God. Okay. She's a second wife. We'll just call it psycho. It'll just be easy. Right. So the psycho deletes all your friends.

How long did you know her before you married her? Two and a half years. Two and a half years. Okay. So call out psycho wife and I said, why did you delete them? I only realized it was a couple at the time. She said, well, I didn't do it. I said, okay, I'm going to add them back in.

It must just be a computer error. And she flips out. Why are you adding them back? I go, well, if you didn't delete them, I didn't delete them. And they say they didn't delete me. It must be a computer error. So I'm just going to add them back. Knowing that she's lying.

So second wife, psycho wife, would talk in her sleep as another personality, who I could talk to. I guess there's no point keeping that name a speaker. That name was Amy. It had no relation to anyone in life. But she would talk at Amy in her sleep and she would protect Psycho Wife. You better be nice to her. It was scary. Dude, I can't.

But this is the girl you keep going back to. I know. Jerry, something's wrong with you. Yes. You're sitting there talking to Amy, quote, unquote, in the middle of the night, who's protecting psycho, quote, unquote. All right. But at this point, it had only come out at night.

So after the truth. Even more psychotic. During this incident, this whole Facebook incident of friends with benefits, or who would become friends with benefits, I worked out of the house and kind of in the back office where it was sort of only one way in, one way out. And she came in with an ax. No joke.

Okay, but let me ask you, was it Amy or was it psycho? It was Amy. She was talking about herself in a third person, and she said, you better listen to what she has to say And she's holding an act above her head And my only thought is like One of us is going to get killed Or get really hurt

But there's no good way this is going to end Uh huh And the office is sort of in the garage And I grab a tennis racket Off the shelf And it's like a movie Hold it like in two hands Like over blocking the act

Get in my car and drive straight to the airport Not to the police Not for the what it's like to do what do you're going to do so what you're just trying to kill you yeah but i've been back there funny times now what but at least i actually i actually didn't get divorced at the marriage and no so um so so that in just a few months um friends with benefits and i got together for the first time i'm sorry but jerry i just hold on one second okay like if you ever do get axed up by Amy or psycho.

I'm going to air this podcast if they have a date line about you and we're not going to feel that sorry for you because like you like you have axes being will and like you go back to that girl like that's fucked up. You're right as least as recently as last month. We'll get up to that.

Okay. Go on. So yeah so now I'm starting to realize Sarah my friend Sarah who I believe she should be on a date line because she's out of control is really not like the end all be all for you. You have way worse than her. And I'm going to out your state that you live in because people know this about your state. You're from Florida. And that's just a crazy place with crazy people. But don't forget these two wives or out west? Where? Out west?

Out west. Okay. Okay. So Amy and Psycho lives out west. But anyway, so you're from Florida, but you're crazy too because this is who you do business with. Okay. wielding Amy with the act. I mean, it's out of control. And for you, that's just like, can we move on to another story? Yeah, that's... That doesn't... You don't even seem to think that's that interesting. You know what?

The first person I dated for just a short period of time, right after the four friends with benefits and after the... The moment, the first night we're lying down in bed together. It just turns the light off. And I've told her these stories about Amy. They were fresh at the time And they were my interesting stories at the time Why is the light going off?

I go, what if Amy wasn't in my ex? What if she's in whoever I'm with? And turn the light off. Oh my God, that's a good movie. That's a good movie. That's so funny you say that. I started writing a script to just say something like. Yeah, you should.

Yeah, you should. I like that idea. That's a good movie. That's a good twist. That's the twist. Yeah. It follows me around everything in the way. Thankfully, that hasn't happened. Okay.

All right, so in February March, I started dating And I started seeing friends with that I mean, we saw we met in Vegas when we got together And then Let's see, when did I meet? I didn't meet your second until Later on that year.

But why don't you And when you finally hook up with Flo, the girl, it seems like you guys have been talking It's never been, you know, you guys have never The timing has never been right. finally the timing's right. You guys hook up. I'm assuming it was like amazing. You why does it not develop into a relationship? She's a therapist and I've had to kind of, people who are therapists,

oh, really therapists because they had some real issues themselves. Yeah. She's so, as much as I care about her, she's had some real bad experiences with guys, you know, when her first boyfriend would hold a gun to her head when they had sex. so she's got some deep-seated issues. She's opened up a lot of interesting things in me, I mean, as far as exploring pain during sex, but we've definitely explored some things together,

and we've touched on it. I guess I'm probably the one who kept it from being a relationship, maybe because it could work. I don't know. Yeah, I think so. Because, I mean, big deal of those problems. It sounds like you deal with a lot worse with these other ladies that you marry.

So what the hell? Who cares that, you know, someone put a gun to her head. You let, you know, axes go to your face. It's like, sounds like you guys have a lot in common. You know what?

I didn't even put that parallel together. But yeah, I guess we, you, Amy and her and her ex-boyfriend could double date. Anyway, so it doesn't, so for some reason, even though this is the one that you really like, you don't turn that into relationship

and you just keep doing business with other people because you eventually meet my friend. right Sarah and you have some crazy situation with that that doesn't last right you were kind of upset what it didn't last it it lasted like six months and I said we had our friends with benefits both did during that time and I think you know I think your friend also loved her friends with him he was in a situation that she couldn't he's married oh yeah that's right we could talk about it nobody knows who the fuck we're talking about

It's, you know what I mean? Yeah. So she's, she's not in love with the married guy. She, she's like to fuck him. You know, I mean,

come on. How in love can you be with the married guy when you're banging him in the car in front of, you know, in the house? You know, that's not love.

Right. You know, there's no relationship. It's hard to have a relationship. They're not seeing each other every day. It's, you know. That's just because he's unavailable.

She's messed up too. So she only had, like, the only guy she really likes. Out of all the guy is the guy that's married. yet she dates all these other guys and none of them are right i mean there's not that's not a co-win so she i was going to see um last may a friend friend with benefit who lives out of state and basically that morning um your friend susan and basically ended things that morning when i was i mean it was discussed that i was going in the triple stem for a few weeks

but she essentially ended it that morning um that i was going out there But that went south. That's not even that interesting. You sent me an email saying, I don't know what we should talk about, but I have a lot of, like, interesting stories. I mean, what we should talk about is, like, to me, maybe you're not in this place yet in your life. And this isn't how you see the situation. But to me, you're a guy that, like, is attracted, you know, has an issue, like, you know, has your own issues. So you're attracting women with, like, hardcore issues.

And, you know, so, like, this is like, you're, like, a person that has a relationship issues. Like, we should be talking about your issues. I mean, the stories are interesting, but I always like to get behind it. Like, you do know you have something going on here, right? I know. So I was dating somebody normal for the last seven months until psycho wife called and had an issue. And I essentially ended, I didn't tell her that was why, but essentially ended things, was with, not sexually with psycho wife either this time.

I went out there. So if you were just going to go be friends with, like, and go help her, why couldn't you keep the relationship with the seventh month girl going? Why did you break it off? I don't know what my, I mean, I had the answers I told myself that seven-month girlfriend had issues. That's probably her only issue is if she drinks too much, she's just out of control. And I don't have a problem with drinking. I like going out and drinking and drinking a lot sometimes. Uh-huh.

I don't like being the, like the drunken center of attention. Right, so it turns out with her, you were probably never, though, drunk and send her attention. She probably was. Right. After the psycho-wife thing, it died out, of course, as it inevitably did, you know, after a few weeks. I actually called up seven-month girlfriend. And so we've been starting to date again.

I was actually in your town this weekend. I saw her. Is she the one you're coming in New York with? Yeah. Yeah. I was going to wait until the end of the month to come to see her. Now I also saw her this weekend as well. She like took a short-term job there, like a six-week job.

Right. So you're going to come here. Yeah. Yeah, so she's crazy to take you back because you'll probably do the same thing to her. I think that I wouldn't. Yeah, but you sound like a mess, Jerry. I hate to say it. And it sounds like, you know, no different than Sarah, unfortunately, that there's always

going to be that thing, whereas the ones that you can't get are the ones that you're focused on, and the ones that you can and that are okay, are the ones that aren't like, they don't just sort of do it for you. You know? It's just like Sarah, like the only guy she really likes is the married guy.

Yet she had you, like you guys, you seem like a nice guy. You guys could have, you know, but it just seems like the girl, the worse the girl is, the more you like her. And when she doesn't have that bad of a problem, something's missing for you. What was your mother like?

Was she a crazy, crazy bitch? She has mental issues. There we go. Right. Yeah. No, listen, this is why I asked because whether you're a man or woman, we all want to fuck our parents, like somehow. We all date that. We want to, we need to work that out.

We work that out through our relationships. That's what our relationships are, you know? So I have a thing for like narcissistic. boundaryless men, you know, because of my father. So we all sort of do that, you know, and that's what you do. So I just don't know if that seventh month girl is messed up enough for you. And I just believe that if somebody else comes along with, you know, another talking Amy or an axe or like, you know, some sort of real mental issue, you're going to like leave this girl cold. You probably will. But, you know, listen,

She's not a victim. She's going back willingly. I might think that I wouldn't. You could think whatever you want, but let's make a bet. You want to make a bet? You can make a side bet. Not a side bet. I bet right now, right on the call, right?

I want to bet you. All right, what are we betting? I'll bet you $20. You could bet. Okay. All right, we're shaking. 20 bucks and a podcast. You're going to have to call back in and cop to it and look like an ass.

I will. Because you're going to be wrong for sure. You should meet us for a drink when I come to New York. No, not a No, no, no, no, I can't. No, I can't. Now it's so much, listen, I like the way I do my podcast in that. I like that I don't know people.

I like that I don't see people. A lot of people always try to send me pictures. Most of the guys I talk to always ask me out on a date after we get the call via email. But I like the way I keep it like now if you're going to be a caller on my show and I'm going to be following this and I'm betting on it. I don't want to meet her in person. I just like to get the facts over the phone. There's something about it that I feel like in a weird way you think I'd get more information in person, but I like to talk through it because I think you're like, listen, this is the first time we're talking, right?

And you're getting all the stuff out. And it's like, to me, it's very confusing. We're going sort of all over the place. I would like to hone it in on just you and your issues with women, you know, but you have like so many different things going on, you know, and now we're betting on this. And there's like still stuff in the email that you sent me because there's a part of, there's, you said something about mutual hand jobs on a flight. and I'm like, just mutual hand jobs mean you and another guy with a guy? Or you're talking about a hand job with a woman? Like, or just hand jobs?

A woman. Oh, okay. Okay, I didn't know because then you do go into homosexual experiences when you're an adolescent. So I want to get into that stuff too. But because it's like all over the place and we're just talking, I want to try and sort of focus it. It's hard to because, but with you sort of talking and going all over the place, it's giving me more information about who you are and what issues you have. you know, that's what I like to do on my show is just sort of like

peel back the layers and get to that kind of stuff. Sure. But I still like the stories too. And I mean, you know, let's forget about seven-month-girl. Like, you're going to meet up with her. Flo is out of the picture. I ended

things with Slow the second month that I was with seven-month-girl. Just because we said we were going to be monogamous and I was like, you know what? I'm just going to do this. to be monogamous. You said you were going to be monogamous

with seven-month-girl, so you decided to be. Right, and that's probably the first time you've been monogamous in a while, because a lot of these situations you're telling me about they were open, you've mentioned the word open relationship. You've had a lot of open relationships. And that's probably a trust issue thing. If you don't have trust, you're like, why

bother even trying for that, right? Right. I had trust issues for most of my life, too, and I tried doing a lot of like a sort of open relationship or all kinds of different kinds of relationships just so I wouldn't have to go there and actually trust somebody, you know?

But it never really works because it's just like, you know, you have to really trust somebody to get to love. Like, I mean, you know, that's, you got to go through that to get there. So, you know, what do you really have if you have an open relationship? I don't know.

It's always it was torturous. I think you could do open relationship later down the line. I've talked about that shit on my podcast a million times, so I don't want to go there again. But so Flo, you ended it, you're seven-month girl.

So how are you being like, monogamous if last month with seven-month girl if last month you had a mutual hand jobs and fingered a girl on a flight well that was I guess that was also the week that I ended things technically right before but I had made the decision to end thing so and a hand job can't possibly count as my name you fingered the girl and she and she put her like and she jerked you off well she tried I mean she tried to I mean it was a three row seat and then the person next to us but I realized it was going on and created an issue.

So it had a thought. But how do, okay, you're on a plane. This is what I want to know. How did, was it a nighttime flight? Were you in first class? It was in nighttime, yeah, well, because I said I still go back and forth between Florida and out west, but every month. Right.

So you're on a flight. You're in first class or are you in coach? No, this is Southwest. You know, you pick your own seat sort of situation. Oh, okay. And the, um, I pick the same, I'm tall. I pick the seat. There's like an emergency seat that has no seat in front of it.

I picked that one. I have extra room. And this woman comes on. Pretty good looking. I mean, maybe a few years older than me. And she's holding this big bag. I see the yoga mat in there and some pillows. I make some joke about her going camping.

She goes, oh, no, I like to do yoga. And then she goes, I like to do it naked. This is right on the side of another one minute. Okay. And let me sit down. And the person, I'm at the window. She takes the middle and this is other man in the aisle. man on the aisle, his wife, across the other aisle.

So the woman, she turns to me and she goes, are you an air marshal? I said, no. She goes, oh, because I once gave a hand job to an air marshal. So I say, well, I could be an air marshal. Right, yeah, that was a good move. What else am I going to say? Yeah, yeah, that was good. Uh-huh.

So, nothing happens. Oh, no, she had all these drink coupons. We're drinking. So it take off and you have probably two drinks each. And this blanket that she had in her bag with her yoga mat, she has to have a blanket on her. And my hand's kind of over the armrest, sort of on her leg. And I'm wearing jeans. So my hand essentially, she kind of puts it under the blanket and takes my hand, lifts her yoga pants up, and puts my hand in her pants.

And then kind of starts stroking me, but through the jeans. and the blanket's not really covered me, and I'm holding my iPad, trying to sort of just cover what's going on there and pretend that nothing's going on. And the married guy next to her sort of noticed and pointed out to his wife, who starts just glaring at us.

So it sort of ended everything. But, you know, it did make for an interesting, an interesting flight. Did you guys like, I mean, did you ask her for her number at the end? I did. And I even, in South Carolina, She didn't have Wi-Fi, so we were on each other's Facebook.

I don't know if she, but I tried to text her or message like two or three times after, and this is maybe a month or so ago, a little more. And she did no response. And she lives locally to this. I don't know if for whatever reason she was embarrassed to do that or I did that or I did a job or I'm not sure. Right. Maybe she has a fear of flying, and that's like just the way she just. The only way she can make it through.

That's exactly possible. Yeah, that's how she distracts herself. So I always, you know, I always meet interest. That was the most, you know, I always need interesting people on swipes like that. So not like that, but. I never talk to anybody on the plane. Like, I just don't like to.

I don't know. But I don't drink. So I think if you're drinking, it's more like that. Yeah. Right? You know, I made, I mean, somebody who, like a year ago, who now I'm sort of, I'm not a friend of that acquaintance with someone.

with benefits, you know, who I met on a flight back to Florida, who lives locally here. So, but I spend some of time on planes. Maybe that's just why I'm just comfortable with it. It's just where I spend a lot of my recent time. Right, right, right. You're always on the plane going back and forth, so it's like, why not? And you're a guy. It's different.

Guys are different about being, like, picking, talking to girls and girls are talking to guys. You know what I mean? Most girls are not interested in rapping with anybody on a plane, but guys, of course, always want to pick up women. You know what I mean? Just like new, new, new, new tale, you know? Like, it's, I think it's just a guy-girl thing.

But girls don't look at it that way. We're not, like, always looking for, like, 10 more guys to bang. But I think guys are. Well, it turned out, you know, on a recent flight, there was a girl next day, pretty girl. And I started a conversation. And she had the same name as my daughter. So it was an easy conversation going.

And she started mentioning her partner. So it turns out that she's gay. But she has a little. legal issue that I could help her with. So we've actually been emailing and she's been helping her out with her legal issue, which turned out kind of cool. Oh, that's fine. Yeah, that's great. I don't always have to have sex on the

plane or try to. It can be. Right. You could meet a friend. You could meet a friend. Yeah, and that's what you should do with your, you know, because you have that side of you that like sort of like help women and whatever. I mean, you could do that if you, you know, as friends with somebody, but like you shouldn't probably date those women. You know what I mean? But yet, that's what you, you actually date them, but maybe you shouldn't, you know? Like, you can help them as a friend. You could do, like, what I try to do, because I think that we can't help, like, what our thing is, you know, and I have a thing where

I will always attract to myself, not even that I want to date these people, but like a certain kind of guy who is very similar to my father, and I just, it's not the right person for me at all. I mean, what I do now is I just keep them as friends, you know, I don't look for that like that guy is not the guy I would ever want to date, but that guy will always show up in my life, and I just keep it where it should be, which is as a friend so I could work it out that way, but it doesn't sort of do that dysfunctional.

I don't get into that dysfunctional dance because I'm not sort of crossing over and falling for them and letting them really in and get really close, you know? I think that's a better way to be, but, you know, I don't know. I don't know if there's a way to avoid it. You know, that's unfortunately sometimes this is who you're attracted to you can't help it.

I mean, are you looking for a relationship? Like, what are you looking for? I mean, part of me, yeah, I am, and part of me even think maybe I want another child. How old are you? 42. Right, okay. I mean, I'm at the higher end, but if I need someone who's a couple years younger than me, it's not like... Oh, no, no, now it would be your time.

No, I think it's smart to be thinking about it now, 42. That's totally a good time for a guy. And, you know, any girl in her 30s or late 30s, you know, know 35 or older you know that's the perfect time right so yeah you if you want another kid that this is the time to really do it but you want to get another you know don't you want to maybe try to have a kid with someone that you might last with that isn't like the first way if you know you have to start really thinking a little bit you know you got to start picking maybe a little bit smarter maybe you know there maybe you will try to make it work with the seven month girl why not flow

again because she lives far away um I don't know if I mean that's sort of just an excuse. I mean, I already lived far away from my kids. I mean, I could, I mean, her family, I mean, her mother's in town here. I see her mother every now and then. So, I mean, if I push, I don't know why not. I don't have a good honest reason. Why not?

But it just fizzled out. You're not into her anymore. Not well. I mean, when things ended a month ago, I kind of checked, you know, kind of checked back and she's basically her and her boyfriend sort of decided even though it's the same one she's with that sort of made things monogamous so um even now she's in a relationship so that doesn't even make up sort of possibility right now yeah no that's kind of yeah i forgot she's like a mess too you guys had relationships other people but you were together like i mean it just sounds too confusing

i think you need a whole new person i don't know if seventh month girl will be the one but you are going to try you you you're going back to her and you're hoping that it actually worked out how old is she 40 she's 40 okay and does she want kids no she's already has the grown oh okay so no but you're going back thinking maybe you would want to start another relationship with her I do and I mean I have tried to sort of break down why I really ended things in those was it just to get back with psycho. I mean, of course, seven months has to have her own issues, too.

She wasn't working for seven months. And so she was just always at my place. Right. And just even when I, even though I'm out of town like every other weekend. So I'd leave on Friday and she'd be there Sunday night when I get, and I was like losing my space. And I've discussed.

She's like, hey, you know, I need some. And it works out that she's in New York now. and probably will be for at least most of the summer. Right. So she finally got a job. Yeah, she got a job. And that was the thing. She had job opportunities here.

She just didn't want to work full time. So maybe she's got her own issues too. No, but maybe when she does get that. But maybe when she gets that taken care of, it'll create enough of a distance that you need. You know, like a little bit space because she's got other things going on, right? So that she's not always in your phone. face, it's hard to judge if she's like out of her, you know, schedule.

It's not like she's on a schedule because she's not working. I mean, it was nice, you know, not having seen her for a few weeks going there last weekend and knowing I'll see her in another two and a half weeks. So, I mean, that's probably a good pace for right now. Yeah, that's hard. But I think when you really want a relationship, like you want to, like, isn't it like if you really like, wouldn't you think if you really like somebody, especially in the beginning, like you want to kind of see them all the time?

Oh yeah, and I think that was the problem. I did it. You know, it was, I just felt like I would leave in the morning and get dressed for work and she'd still be in bed at 6 o'clock. And I just like, that's ridiculous. You can't just lay here and watch TV all day. Six o'clock at night or six o'clock in the morning? Yes.

I'd get up at 6 in the morning. Yeah. Get ready for work, leave at 7 or 8. And yeah, she would be there at the end of the day. And now is like that. Oh, my God. Sitting in bed still, you haven't done one thing? Well, I mean, my house would be clean in my laundry.

done, but still. Oh my God, like a maid. Right. I'd rather go out and get a job than sit home and do someone's laundry and clean his house. You know what I mean? I'd rather go do any job than that. Like, that's the hard job. Like, I mean, that's crazy.

We would never work out then. So, okay. Oh, why, you want the girls to do that for you? No. Oh. No problem. I've been doing my own. I'm just too.

No, but I mean, like, I, no, I think it's funny that that's, but yeah, that maybe she's just a little like too lazy for you. Yeah. But maybe with her work, you know, we'll see. I mean, I was trying to decide. I really feel like I honestly missed her and I ended things for the wrong reasons. So I don't know. Yeah, you give her another chance.

I still have 20 bucks on it. I think something's missing. I think something's missing. You win. How long do I have to make a ghost that I win and I don't have to die with her? Four months. Four months. No, the year.

Four months. You're not going to last a year with her. Four months. Four months? I can do it to me. No, you can't. I'm going to, I'm going to wish a psycho your way, okay? It's summer's coming.

You know, everyone's going to be scantily clad. You're going to be in a bar. Some crazy psycho who just moved to town somehow is going to be in your radar. And you're going to dump her for her. It's what's going to happen. Four months. I give you four months. The summer's easier for me because I have my daughter for the summer.

So I have her most of the time. It should be easier. Oh, you're telling me maybe I should make the bet to be longer? I'm stupid to do it. No, no, no, no. I'm just saying I kind of get like a two-month like cushion because I don't have much time to date it in the summer. Oh, okay.

So right. But when does she come back to Florida? She's coming back with the first week of May. But I think, you know, she's in like the teaching field. I think she's, I think she's, I think she's, I think she's, you're, took another or she's trying to get another summer job in New York and then we'll start here in the fall. So I think she's going to be gone most of the summer.

She'll be here for May, June, and then go back to New York. Yeah, no, I think that you're just not going to. I think that there's just something missing there and you're not going to wind up. That's whatever was wrong for you to leave in the first place is going to be wrong in the second. Like, I just don't think it's going to work out. I think you're going back to her now because you have nothing else going on. and I think I think

you know who did you just end it with like you have a million endings and beginnings like you know because you got the ex-wife right that she you ended that with her you weren't even with her but that's the reason why you ended the other girl

and then something else ended like a month ago right right? Yeah so I think she's just like filler because you have nothing else going on I mean and I think and that's just what I think not that I'm right

but I bet you I am No I mean I mean If history is right Then you're gonna be right I'm hoping that you're not Right You don't think it's just that you miss her

Because she's not here And then the minute she comes back there And it's what it is It's not gonna be right Um Possibly I mean I guess I won't know

And so Yeah we won't know We won't know for four months I'm telling you It's going to take a little while. All right. Well. Yeah.

I just make that bad. But I think because I don't know if you're like, I think like you have to go through stuff. Like you don't seem to me, you're not calling up because you have this problem and you're like, oh, Kathy, I want to call into your show because I'm attracted to crazy women and, you know, and I'm looking for a relationship and I don't know. And I have no trust because of my issues, right? Not that. That's not why you called in.

You called in because like you like my podcast and you like podcasts, right? And you thought, oh, you want to be a co-host, whatever. So you're really not looking for help and you're not at that place yet. So there's no way your shit is going to change. Like your shit and your patterns and this whole nonsensical phase you're in that you've been in since, you know, your first wife fucked you over and massively ruined your trust. It's never going to end until you like sort of hit a bottom or something like sort of has to drastically change. You know what I mean? And I just don't know that you're there yet.

you don't just people just don't change like you know it's like it's that comes over time and it takes and it's hard you know i've done a lot of changing in my life and it's been pretty brutal it's always happened um you know by bad things happening in a way you know i had to quit drinking i had to do a lot of stuff to really change those patterns of myself the commitment issues i had the trust issues i had all that stuff it didn't just like oh i logically decided to make the right decision and everything worked out i wish it was that way but it just, it doesn't, it doesn't play out that way, you know. That's just why I think it.

It's just, that's because that's how it sort of goes. And that's a big deal because, like I said, you didn't call into my show because you think you have a problem. You, like I said, you blew over that girl with an axe over her head trying to kill you as if that was like, you know, no big deal. I think that's a very big deal, you know. Well, it was, but it was two years ago, so, you know. But you still talk to that person.

Like, you just dumped the girl that you wanted to. date for that girl. That's what the big deal is. To me, that, you know, when I watch date lines and 48 hours and I see people get murdered by people, you know, it's like maybe they're like you. He deserved it.

No way, you don't deserve it. But I had it. I should have known that. Well, like, why did you run? Like, why are you running back to that person? Like, I would not run back. Like, I don't know. When I, I believe that people kill people. Okay. Like, I seriously, I believe that because I watch those shows. A lot of men

kill a lot of women. People, no, I'm not going to defend her. Just let me finish. People actually really do kill people. So in my life, if I meet somebody and I get a vibe that they're like sick in the hat or mentally unstable or they literally have an axe and they're trying to, like, I will stay away from that.

Like, I just won't let that sort of swirl in my, around my life. We can throw in. Her father is in jail for murder and drinking for murder. Oh my God, stop. Oh my God, I can't even. I can't even. Oh, my God.

Okay, so she has murderous genes. Is that a word murderous? Like, she's got murder genes. And so to me that you like blow it off and then you say, well, that was two years ago. I mean, and you just left a nice girl to date her. Like, I really believe, like, you could get killed by her. I believe that people kill people. So for me, like I said, when I, you know, a healthy person thinks, you know, in a way, like,

that they would get away from that person. and they wouldn't go back to that person. Like, that person's dangerous. I mean, you just literally told me that her father is in jail for murder. She's taken an act. This last visit may have been my rock bottom with her. Because usually even after we're done, like, I'm back talking with her the next, you know, it's been, if we were done, I'm like, love, don't contact me.

And I haven't contact. I think she contacted me one. But in the last, you know, three or four, whatever it's been. Listen, if the axe wasn't your bottom, this wasn't your bottom. Your bottom might be like your house being burned down, okay? I don't think, I don't know. Listen, you're lucky if she just goes and like murder somebody else. You know, you might not, she might not feel enough for you to murder you.

And that might be the good thing. Like you might have fizzled out enough for her not to have any kind of rage against you to kill you. But she'll probably kill somebody. All right. We'll play the podcast then. Oh, my God. $20 for that, too. I give her, but she's not going to murder whether she murdered or not.

She's not going to murder. You're no fun. She's not going to murder anyone in four months. I say she murders within two years. That's another $20 bet I have with you, Jerry. All right, because that'll probably get you back by the $20. And you know what? I'm sorry, but I can't believe I thought, like, we always make jokes about Sarah being.

And I tell this to her face. Like, she's just straight up from a dateline episode, you know, with her big boobs and the way she looks and how she does business and who she fucks and, you know, her married guys and her affairs. and whatever. Like, and I'm always like, oh my God, she is like the, like the total woman on date line that like, she doesn't like she gets killed because she's involved in all this shit. And I just didn't realize that you are the Dateline guy too. You are and I guess everybody that's on Dateline lives in Florida.

That might be, that might be something that I could come to terms with because I think that that's what I figured out because you belong on that episode too with this bitch and this crazy shit and all these people that you do business with and the lady that whose father was a murderer and she tried to kill you and she talks to you at night via Amy and that's part of my problem is I always and you know what your friend looks like and that's just good looking woman and she looks she's great uh-huh right and that's kind of like everyone I try to date is sort of similar right but there are attractive women Jerry that are aren't psychotic

murderers. I can't seem to find them. I can only find the crazy one. Well, that's because you live in Florida, I think. I don't know. I'm going to lose, I'm going to lose listeners in Florida.

I mean, every Florida girl has big, fake tits. They all have breast and plants. They all look kind of hot. Like, aren't there lots of hot girls in Florida? They can't all be crazy. I think most girls aren't crazy. I think there's a lot of great girls

and a lot of girls are pretty girls. There's a lot more pretty girls than there are hot guys. Okay, that's just a fact. So I don't see why you can't find a hot girl that looks like. like Sarah that isn't crazy. Yeah, two out of three.

I can't seem to find the not crazy part. Right. Because I've probably broken up with people who probably were normal and I'm like, but I probably shouldn't at this point. I like care how hot they are. But it's to a degree. No, you can't help. But listen, you have to have physical attraction.

That's important. But I just don't find that there's no women that are physically, I think what you're really being mostly attracted to, you think it's just the outside. but it's something on their inside. It's their crazy. It's not just the outside. So I think that, you know, there's women out there that are as good looking as these other women that you've dated that just don't have the crazy insides.

I mean, I think I see beautiful women all the time. I mean, I live in New York. So New York, it's like a pretty girl's a dime a dozen. Not a lot of hot guys. Like, I go to the gym and I'm a friend at the gym and he's always talking about all these girls in the gym and how hot there. I could talk about maybe one guy at the gym that's hot. There's like barely any guys at my gym that are hot. Like none, there's none, okay?

So I think it's a lot harder for women to say, but not men. Yes, women. Right. And there's just women, I mean, are very good looking. But I think Florida, I mean, go to Miami. Like, I mean, there's beautiful women there. And I think that they're not crazy. I always find it, I always find a bizarre when my guy friends or any guy says that they can't, like,

sort of find a good girl. I find, like, most women are pretty good. I think men are garbage and a lot of them are pieces of garbage and they cheat and there's a lot of issues there. But most of my friends don't cheat and they want relationships and they're nice girls. Like there's a lot of nice girls out there. I just believe that and good looking ones. So I think if you're just meeting the crazies, it's not so much that you're just going for their looks. You're going for a type.

Maybe it's too trashy of a type, you know? I don't know. It's what's what you're smelling on the inside. We all have it. Like I said, we all have our dysfunctional pull to whatever that is, you know? And they actually say, like, the more horny you get for somebody when it's like that kind of, like, horniness that you just feel like it's such insane chemistry without barely even knowing the person. Sometimes, like, you should run away from that person because that's the person that's going to really, you know, stick it to you and make you feel like whatever is from your childhood, you know?

Whereas the person that maybe you feel like you kind of like, but it's a little flat. but it's good, you know, and they treat you well and you feel good around. And like, that's the person you should stay with. But sometimes that's hard because that other sort of feeling you get from like a Sarah or an Amy or whatever is probably really hot. Right? All right. I'm winning this bet. Which bet?

The murder bet? Well, I hope I win the murder one. I'd hate murder good. I'd go to jam. But no, I'm not going to. Oh, my God. You're so funny. Did you hear what you just said?

That says a lot about you, Jerry. you said I'd hate to her to go to jail because you don't but like do you not want her to go to jail like you don't want someone to get murdered you don't want someone to get murdered by her you don't want to her to kill somebody to me it sounded like you don't want her to go to jail

because you like going back and forth with her no no I'm done with that too okay you're done with the going back and forth with the murderer that's what we're going to call her the murderer. As far as I'm concerned, she's going to... I'm done with the murderer.

First of all, how do you know she hasn't murdered yet? Well, I guess she hasn't been caught in, she might have. Yeah, you have no idea. I was there when she almost killed. I was husband number three, so husband number two almost died. She, what do you mean? She killed, she tried, what do you mean she tried? You saw her try to kill someone else? Well, kind of.

When we, I mean, I got, I met her while she was still married and I moved pretty quickly. And so he moved into a friend who happened to live across the street. So she wanted her truck back from him. Uh-huh. And she decides to go over there and take it. She starts it up. If he runs out of the house, jumps in the back, she drives onto the interstate.

I catch up maybe 20 minutes later after about 10 cop cars have pulled her over. We're having her ex-husband in the back of the pickup truck driving down the interstate. so yeah that may have been a red flag early on right oh she did that before you well but i was right well she did that at the beginning of you know when she was ending with husband number two when i just moved in right my god yeah she could have already murdered i mean you just don't know a lot of i mean you just don't know right she just might be good at it um i guess i hope

a lot of times these people are very brilliant you know i don't know if you could be like dumb as a doorknob and like totally insane. I think there takes a certain amount of intelligence that comes with being completely psychotic. Do you know what I mean? No, and I need a certain amount of intelligence, even if it's crazy intelligence. Well, that's what it always is. I mean, you get someone who's really smart and then you give them like fucked up parents and then they turn nuts.

You give someone like that's really stupid fucked up parents. They don't go as nuts. They just don't, you know? So unfortunately. being really super smart always is a little crazy you can't help that you know especially if it's like

fucked with you know like with and who's not fucked with like we all had parents from like that weird generation where they were so messed up and they messed us all up you know so we all have our shit I mean and I guess I have to put that on myself too intelligent and kind of messed up yeah but you present

you know you you're definitely like a certain breed you present as someone very normal okay and someone very nice right but really when you dig a little you're like you're a complete mess in a sense kind of but you don't really wear that on your sleeve like that's not very apparent you sort of present yourself in a very different way I don't want to know that I'm

who does for business personal and yeah no but I mean it's like kind of like a double life like there's a little weird disconnect like there's two different times of people and I think they say it's like the different side of the same coin some people act out some people act in you know and like so some people's shit is like all on the surface and some people stuff is like way down you know and I think maybe you're just one of those you know you do have your shit it's just not very apparent you know but you are like in that sort of place do you go to therapy at all I have but not really right I mean you might want to like that could really help you especially

if you're going to procreate again and start another relationship and you're only 42. I mean, you're still young. You might as well try to figure out some of this shit. I know that you didn't call up to talk about this stuff and just maybe just tell fun stories, but like I think you should go a little deep into your stuff and maybe talk to somebody because you could be a better guy and you could be happier and you could be a little bit more stable in your love life.

Obviously, you're stable in your career. You know, you've got all that other stuff in your life and you're, I'm hoping you're a good dad and that kind of thing. You know, don't you want to be like a good guy, a good husband, a good boyfriend, or whatever. I mean... I do. Right, but you do yourself of... And the girls, a disservice if you don't sort of work on yourself.

I don't know. I believe in therapy. I think it's really great. It's not something that you have to do for your whole life, a certain period of time. If you find the right one, they could really help. I know of one in Florida, because my friend goes to one in Florida. That's fucking amazing. You'll probably wind up banging her because she's nuts.

okay um and because they all are kind of crazy but she's really really fucking good she it's like psychoanalysis and i'm telling you that shit is really good and it's and it could really change who you are and you know while you're doing all this stuff and you're having fun you know why not go once a week and just talk to somebody it could really change you and make make things better and it could help because it's just not going to change it's not like you're going to meet the right person they're going to change you have to change you know when you change then your horizons change you know you'll start meeting slightly different people so you know it can't hurt if you're into it i don't know that's what i suggest oh yeah and you can you can send me their

name no no i am and i have been and i've been it for the right reason i've been it for a lot yeah and sometimes listen i think it's very important it's very hard to find a good therapist okay so many of them are really bad and they you know but if you find a really good one and like i said i know one that does psychoanalysis which is the best kind of And typically it's really expensive. Like here in New York, it's like 275 to 300 an hour. But this bitch is in Florida and she doesn't charge a lot. And like she's hardcore amazing.

Like seriously, she's really good. And I think you'd get a lot of it and it would help. And maybe you'll get a date or you'll, you know, get a new relationship with another psychopath, which is her. Right. You know. I think they have rules. Yeah, but it doesn't matter. Those is like transference.

It's transference. It's so psychotic. They're the most biggest psychopaths on the planet. But she's really good, you know. She is really good and she can help you. And, you know, and that will only help your relationships. And, you know, it'll only help you maybe stay with that seven-month girl instead or I'm going to get that 20 bucks because I just don't think you're out of a place

where you're changing your patterns yet. I think it's, you know, I don't think you've hit a bottom. I think, you know, Amy will be back eventually. Hopefully that's fizzling out, like I said. And she's just, you know, sort of hyped up. up and rageful on somebody else and somebody else is going to get killed. I know you say you hope, but I think

some part of you doesn't really hope. I think some part of you doesn't ever want to lose her. You told me you're like whipped to her on the beginning of the call. So like an hour later, you're over her. You already told me like that's you're obsessed with her. Well,

at least that I have, I mean, it's hard for me to say having done it just a month ago that I'm done. So we will see. Right, exactly. Like, I don't know that you guys have a very dysfunctional thing that keeps going and coming and like, you know, that, will it ever go away? I don't know. But if you change, the things that swirl around you changes, that's what I believe. And it does

help. So get yourself into therapy. But like, I, I mean, I would love to hear more of your stories. And I know you, you're sort of a listener to the show. And I want to, like, there's other stuff in your email, like your adolescent homosexual. sexuality stuff and like different kinds of things. And I like to follow your relationships. And maybe when you actually do need help, you could call up again. Because I know that you're not really looking for help, but I'm shoving my opinions down

your throat. Because this is why I do my podcast, really. I do it because people like you or my friends don't really like to hear it. And it's irritating. Most people that call my show are calling because that's what they want here, you know. But so, you know, I apologize for like going in all those other directions. but that's what I do and that's what I think makes for an interesting call but I'd love to hear what's going on with you you know in a couple months when you know things go down because things

are going to go down there's going to be a new crazy in town and you're going to date it that's what I believe I will I will fill you in a few months and catch you up okay okay Jerry I'm going to I'll text you when you I'm going to text you the information of that therapist and let me know if you go okay I appreciate that. Thank you so much. All right, good luck. Don't get killed. Stay safe.

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