Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 072 - Tom Hooks-Up with Women and Couples on AdultFriendFinder.com

Episode Date: May 4, 2015

Tom uses AdultFriendFinder.com to find most of the women he hooks-up with. He travels a lot for work so he uses the site to find women and couples to have sex with while he's visiting other cities. He's been on AdultFriendFinder.com for a couple of years and has had a bunch of really great experiences. Tune in to hear all about those experiences as well as all about his 3 year relationship with an older women who turned him on to the swinger lifestye. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the strictly anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow the show at Strict Anonymous. If you want to also be on the show, I love, you know, I go on to Craigslist, I go on to adult friend finders, I post on Backpage. I do everything I can. I mean, you guys don't even understand how many dick picks and crazy things I have to do and how many times I just have to like email perverts, like all day long or I am with them to just try and get guests on my show. But I don't just look for like, you know, guys that have like weird sex stories and shit like that. I would like to talk to anybody. So, you know, if you are a listener and you have

a problem that you want to talk about or you live a secret life and you just want to get it off your chest totally anonymously, I'd love to have you on the show. You could email me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. Again, that's strictly anonymous podcast at jemal.com. And I'll have you on. Today what I have on is, is a guy that I met on adult friend finders. What I do on adult friend finders, I just log on to the IM chat. And I get like a zillion guys.

Like, it's so funny if you're in my apartment because you just hear the beep, like every five seconds. And I have just this thing that I cut and paste and sent to each guy like, hey, do you want to be on my show? I'm not looking. I'm not here looking to hook up, blah, blah, blah. You know, I don't try to beat and switch anybody. I try to get to the point.

And every now and then I get someone to say, like, okay that sounds like fun actually I got a couple guys recently that were into doing it so um the guy that I'm going to air today is named Tom he's a young guy he's 28 he's on a doll friend finder he said because he travels a lot and he can't really have a real relationship um so he goes on that that on that site to pick up girls just so that you could sort of meet them when he's traveling he's been on that site for about seven years so he's got a lot of experiences to talk about and then when he was like 23 he dated an older woman who was like way older than him and they had like they're like swingers so he gets into that too so it's a really interesting call

his name is tom like i said i met him on adult friend finders and i'll be right back on with his story so listen this is the deal you probably know nothing about my show because nobody on adult friend finder really reads my profile i think you have to have like a membership or something i mean i put on my profile that i run this podcast and that people call in and most of the time i get my callers from craigslist right um but every now and then i go to adult friend finders and I have a couple people on from there. I mean, and typically the way I get people from adult friend finders is the way I got you. I just go on like the chat thing and guys just start sending me dick picks.

I don't think you send me a pick. And then I just send them like my info that I'm looking for someone for the show and then every now and then I get somebody that wants to call in. So I always start off with my adult friend finder people like just asking them like what they're doing on adult friend finder. And I'm curious if you get any action. Just so you know, people on Craigslist barely get action. a lot of the time when they're looking for girls because

it's a lot of dudes and a lot of prostitutes on Craigslist? Like there's not a lot of real women on there? Do you find that you get a lot of action from being an adult friend finder? You know, it's hit or miss. I would say it's probably more on the flow side

than anything else. On the what side? More on the slow side than anything else. Right. I travel a lot for work, so you know, some areas are better than others. But, yeah, it's definitely better than Craigslist. Right. So you go on there trying to, like, create, like, set up hookups for when you're traveling for work in different cities?

Right. Right. And do you, like, could you give me an example of, like, some sort of recent hookup that you had? Like, what, like? The last one was actually in hometown. Uh-huh. So, yeah, it seems to be, I don't know, I think people are a little leery of you when you're not from. the area, you know.

Yeah, totally, I'm sure. I mean, I would just think women, I mean, being a woman in general, like, I'm a woman, right? So if I'm meeting like a strange dude, I would be a little leery anyway, whether I'm in my same town or I'm like far away, you know, because you're just meeting a man and he could like fucking kill you. That's what I think. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but really.

There's a lot of crazies. Right, but the truth is there's just a lot of horny guys out there. Most of the time, all you dudes on adult friend finders, who have these big pictures of your Dicks, you're really just looking for a piece of ass. You're really not looking to murder anybody, right? I just don't understand why guys think girls. Like, I just think a lot of men

would be much happier if they were gay. Because I just don't understand how men think. And maybe it's just like, I tend to think maybe guys are just like born hunters, so they kind of like that. Most women aren't into what they're looking for, so it takes like longer and it's like a harder sort of

catch to find that one horny girl. It's just going to fuck you and not even know you. But most of the time, like women just aren't wired like that, you know, yet there's millions of you guys out there that are just like on these sites, like just not believing the truth. You know what I mean? And figuring there's got to be some slutty girls out there that'll just screw me and not have any feelings and whatever. Right, right. Right. And do you...

No, there's a huge element of that. You know, most of the time it turns of just kind of a tidal thing, you know, you know, you know, talking about some cool. people. You need to meet to meet people. Most of the time, it's, it doesn't prove to be too terribly fruitful. But you do, you get a chance to get to know people and get to know the areas, you know.

Right. So, I mean, but how many girls have you actually fucked from adult friendfinders? And how long have you been on? Probably about seven. And I've been on it, probably at least five years now. Five years? And, I mean, can you count how many

girls you've actually screwed? Or is it too many? to count? I wish I could say it was too many. Yeah, that's what I figure. In five years, how many I want to do the average? It's about seven. So seven. Most of them come from hometown.

Right. So out of five years of hard work, 12 months, you nail about one girl a year. It's like fishing. This is why I think guys are into fishing. They just sit on a pond for like 10 hours, and if they catch one fish, they're happy. I feel like it's the same thing with these kind of sites with guys.

Like, guys are just, I don't get it, but I guess it's like that challenge of finding that one person, right? I don't know. Is it like, and have you had great experiences those seven times? Well, I'm really quite picky because, you know,

you get murdered and killed just the same. Or taken. You could get robbed. I think you're more likely to get drugged up and robbed than killed. I don't. don't know. I watch a lot of like these shows on TV, like, you know, 48 hours in dateline. And most of the time, I would say it's men killing women, because I guess women are

annoying. I don't know, men can't deal with women. They just like, instead of divorcing them, they have to always kill them. It's very bizarre to me. But it's not, there's not that many women. I mean, well, sometimes there is the wife that killed the man. But I think it's more men that kill women. But yeah, you could get robbed for sure. Right, right. And you can catch something. You know, you don't want to, you don't have a, night of fun turned into a lifetime of cramps, you know? Right, but let me ask you this. First of all, I always ask all my calls all my call.

Because everyone, my show is called strictly anonymous, and everybody calls them their anonymous. I don't look at pictures of anybody. I mean, I've seen your dick pick because it's like your profile picture. Is that really your cock, or like, do people put up fake pictures? No, no, no, that's fine. That's yours. So an adult friend where I was really interesting.

Like, I pay to be on there because this is where I get people for my show. And it's just like, I tell people sometimes, like, you go on there. and like people have videos of themselves and there's like a lot of information on there you know and I always and I think that all the stuff is really real you know so like people have pictures they'll have like 180 pictures so you know it's not

180 fake pictures of the same person that they could find you know so there's a lot of freaky people on there looking for action but what are you on a scale of 1 to 10 what do you consider yourself as far as looks

looks wise one being really ugly and 10 being totally hot. I told myself in the category of a seven or six. Six or seven? So let me ask you this. Are you also on regular sites like, okay, Cupid or Match.com or J-Date or whatever? Like, are you on those sites too or just strictly adult friend finder?

No, it's just an adult friend finder. And how come? Because let me tell you, I live in New York City. I won't out where you're from. I let tell people you lie about your name. You lie about where you're from. Just be honest about everything else. But like I live in New York and, you know, I have tons of guy friends.

in this town and they're on, I don't know, listen, they wouldn't probably tell me if they're on adult friend finders, but they're also on those other sites like, okay, Cuban, match, I'll come, and they get laid all the time on those sites. Like, seriously, you know, it's very easy nowadays to take a girl out, buy her a couple drinks, and screw her on the first night. Like, I can't even, I don't drink, I haven't drank for many years, so I'm not an easy lay, but girls that drink are, and my guy friends tell me, like, most girls they go out with on these sites, we'll just, like, fuck them the first night. So, like, and I think, that you'd get a lot more than seven in five years like did you ever think of

trying the regular sites and sort of going in in a different way instead of saying hey I just want to fuck you like kind of being that typical guy and saying hey I'm looking for a relationship but really you're just looking to screw people I had started previously on those websites but you know it I don't I'm not a player you're not a player I don't want to play games I don't want to you know very straightforward I don't want to mislead people. And, you know, most people that are on the other websites, if they're there for that, that's their prerogatives.

But I don't, you know, I don't want to waste someone's time that's not at the same time. Right. And now, you're 28, right? You said, I mean, like I asked you before, it says you're 31 on your profile, but you're 28 in real life. Did you ever explain to me why you made up a difference of three years? Like, I don't understand. Did you put 31 by accident? No, no, I put a different agent just because...

Oh, you don't want no one to know who you are? Right, right, right, okay. Not until I get to know them. Right, of course, of course, because you're a straight shooter, but like you're not going to put that shit out there right in the beginning. Right, right, right. Right, but so what's your deal? You're 28 years old.

Have you ever had a relationship, like a long-term relationship? I have, but I travel, so it doesn't... It doesn't usually enough last in too long. Right. What do you do for work? I do different consulting. Consulting. You're a consultant, right?

Yeah, I know people that do that. They travel from like, you know, Monday through Thursday of every week. Yeah, pretty much. Right. So you haven't been able to find, like, a girl that's willing to settle down with that, right? That's a difficult thing for a girl. Yeah, exactly. There's a lot of people that say that online, but, you know, four months in, they haven't seen you hardly.

Oh, I'm going to annoyed. Right. And so what was your longest relationship? Have you ever had, like, oh, it's anything that lasted a significant amount of time? I mean, you're still young. Right. Longest was three years. Oh, so that's long.

And so you were doing consulting at the time, or was that, like, in high school or something? That's as I was starting to get into it. So, coming out of college and into the whole consulting industry. Right. And were you, like, a pretty monogamous person, or did you cheat when you were in that relationship because you were always on the road? Like were you doing the adult friend finder thing behind that person's back? I wasn't doing it behind her back. We were actually swinging at the time. Oh. That's kind of another element to it. Yeah, that's interesting. That's why that lasted three years.

You guys were on the same page. Exactly. Exactly. And there's not a lot of people like that. No. I have a lot of guys that call in. I don't know. You know, you can check out my podcast after we're done with this. But I have a lot of guys that call in that either want to see their girl screw another guy or they want to get them into threysums or they want to get them into swingers and every now and then I get a call from a guy who actually has a girl like that but like you said they are hard to find like where did you

meet this girl and how did that come up in your relationship she was actually a bit older than me how old was she and how old were you I lose 23 and she was 31

okay so She had done it supposedly in her younger years. Right. And, you know, so she had talked to me about it, and it sounded appealing. So we started into it. She was basically the one that exposed me to it all

and showed me the lifestyle, if you all. Right. But, I mean, was that very early on? Like, what is that first conversation like? Like, where do you meet her, first of all? If you're 23 and she's 31, like, where do you guys meet? Through friends. And what was she on a scale of 1 to 10?

How hot was she? I would put her at a solid 9. So she was really hot. She dug like younger guys or you guys just like sort of hit it off? I think it was really we just hit it off because me being younger I think kind of put the end to the relationship.

Right. But how early on did she let you know like, hey, by the way, this is what I do and are you into it and this is what I want to do with you? I mean, what guy wouldn't be into it? I mean, actually I feel like I know some guys wouldn't. Some guys, when they actually start to like a girl, a lot of my guy friends would never want to see them with somebody else because they maybe would get jealous. You know, but when did she sort of introduce that to you?

How early on? We were, it was less than the year, but we'd been together probably about 10 months. Right. And she just brought it up one day like, hey, by the way, I'm into threesomes? No, no. I mean, we knew quite a bit about each other. I knew that though. something in her past and I think it was just

something we started to talk more about and explore right and then so when you say you guys were swingers like did you guys go to swing clubs like what was your what do you guys do together did you put ads and bring in other women or other men we would we would go to different swingers clubs uh huh uh huh

so it was you know pretty much the pick of whatever was there it was really more it was all about her what do you mean like would you fuck other girls there or would you watch her fuck other guys or her with other girls? Like what was what was she into? It was she was into either so I mean it was really matter of whatever whatever

she liked at the club that night. Meaning a woman or a man. She would go both ways? Right. Right. And you would watch and jerk off? No, no, no. We typically would be, you know, typically it'd be another guy and three of us would all go to them. Uh-huh. And then you'd watch.

And you'd both fuck her. Yeah. Right. And you like to watch her get screwed by other guys. Yeah. I mean, there was an element of pleasure for her and trust between the two of us. That was awesome. Trust, you said?

Did you say trust? Trust. Right. That was awesome, meaning that it, like, made you feel closer to her and turned you on? Yes. Yep. Right. That's interesting.

Because a lot of people, like I said, I think would actually think maybe they would feel the opposite, right? But because you were open to that and that's what you're kind of into and she was, I think it's great. I mean, it's very rare. I had one other guy on who was older who had a girl and they were together. They had both been married, you know, been there,

done that monogamous thing that didn't really work and they were interreligious with each other and they were open to swinging and they were, you know, he was really into her and loved her and didn't feel any sort of like conflict with that whole thing. Whereas I feel like a lot of regular guys would. And women. You know,

any mean they would feel very conflicted about it even if that's what they wanted to do do you know but it's cool that it's it's certainly not an easy thing for for most people i think you have to be i think you have to accept exactly what it is and it is exactly what it is at that time of moment right but it doesn't but i mean you would go home and like cuddle with her and look at her like your girl and also like feel romantic feelings of her like she just wouldn't be that like horridish girl doing these dirty things. No, no, not at all. Right.

Right. That's good because I think like I believe that a lot of guys, as much as they fantasize about that stuff when it comes down to it, they sometimes can't get past that. You know what I mean? And they would be very judgmental to women. I know that the one guy who called in said that his girl

right after their first experience, she started crying and was really nervous that he would look at her differently. You know what I mean? Or judge her for what she did. And I think probably a lot of women would feel that way that the guy would say he wanted it. But then he'd have a double standard and be like, oh my God, I can't look at you any different.

You know what I mean? Yeah. I would say 90% of the time it goes, it goes negatively for people that net to it. Right. But like I said, you know, she, this is something she had done. There was, it was only we talked about extensive. It was what we did. Oh, you discussed a lot about before it happened.

Like, were you nervous that you would actually, like, did you not know? how you'd feel or did you know for sure like this was something that you were always fantasizing about and you'd be into it or she the one that really sort of opened your eyes to it? I was aware of it was something I was interested in trying and seeing

and I would say yeah she was definitely a one way. Right I think that that's like it yeah go on. I wouldn't say it was terribly comfortable the first time but no it was it was basically it was a new adventure

that only she and I protect us right it was very personal right because it wasn't probably something that you guys would be able to talk about to a lot of people right

I mean did you go well but you were young you were 23 did you like go back and brag to your friends or did you keep it private no no no that's cool you know that was that was just for us

I think that's what I really liked about it yeah see I think you know that's what's cool about you Like you said in the beginning, like you're pretty much a straight shooter. That's why when I asked you the cheating question, I was kind of like, you know, you're probably not the kind of guy that would cheat. You just, you know what I'm saying? Because you said that and at least it's cool that you didn't run back.

Because I think a lot of guys would go back and sort of maybe brag about it to their friends. Do you know what I mean to make it not something? I don't know if you can really brag about letting your girlfriend sleep with some other dude, though. Yeah, you're right. Well, maybe if she was with another girl or I don't know. You know, I just see, like, listen, guys will, like, show me, my guy friend show me pictures of their girl's tits, the pushy shots that they send them, like, everything. Like, I don't know. I think that that's really fucked up.

Like, you know, and I wonder if they would do that with girls that they really cared about. I don't know if there's a difference, you know, that they're just like. I think so. You think that's what it is? Yeah. I mean, if you're selling it off, then she's a trophy. Right, but not really. But do you show off the girl that you like?

It's true to be a good thing, but it's not definitely. Right, because with this girl, she wasn't your trophy. She was like your girlfriend. You guys really dated for three years. And how many times did you guys go swing? And so when you say it was hard the first time, though, can I just go back to that? Like, were you like a little

jealous? Was that what beat it like her? I mean jealousy. You know, are you nervous about the other person being nice? And just all sorts of things. I mean, there's pretty much everything runs through your mind while you're there. Right, right.

But did it wind up to be like a really hot experience for you, or did you get more into it like the second time? The first time, honestly, I kind of just let myself go. Really got pretty into it. The first time? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you hit a point where you're either going to not be okay with it,

and at which point you're really going to just stop. Or you can open your mind to it and have fun with it. Right. It's like that you make that decision. And you made the decision to totally go for it. And then now, did you do anything? You're not by, right? I looked at your profile really quick just to see what you were into.

Are you by or are you totally straight? No, I'm straight. I don't, in sex, you know, my girl. Like you'll cross swords, they call it, crossing swords. Like you'll be, you'll, that's what I used to have a, co-host who was a guy and he would call it crossing swords. So you'd screw, like, did you would do like double penetration or like she'd be blowing you and the other guy would be screwing her?

Like, you'd do stuff like that, but you wouldn't do anything with the guy. No, the guy's didn't really, you know, didn't interest me. Right. But what about when she was with another girl? Would you have sex with the other girl? I actually wasn't allowed to. Interesting. And let me ask you this. did you feel like that was like some people would be like oh that's totally not fair but like

i believe in these kind of situations like you guys make up your own rules and if you decide to say that that's cool with you and you know like that's the way that it works so were you do you wish that you could have screwed the other girls or was it enough like what was going on well i was like i just wasn't allowed to fuck them you were what i just wasn't allowed to actually fuck them and what was her yeah When everybody's in bed, you know, there's really, there's no, there's not, like, a no-touching policy. No, but you, there was a no-fucking policy. Mm-hmm.

Right? Right. So, but could you do other things? Like, could you go down on the girl, but you just can't screw her? Or was it, like, you can't do anything with the girl? No, I just couldn't actually fuck her. Right, but you could. I think it was more on her end.

No, of course. You want, I'm sure you were open to fucking somebody else, but she didn't want you. you too, right? Right. And like, did she say, but yet she fucked other guys. That's, it's interesting, you know, it's like an interesting double standard. But, you know, if it works and you were cool with that, that's fine. But she would let you do everything else with the girls. Right. And would she get, like, was it because she would be jealous or in her mind there was something about you screwing somebody else that would be sort of like crossing a boundary that she wasn't into? Like, did she explain why? the boundary that she just wasn't comfortable crossing.

Right. And you were cool with that because you're like, hey, I got this girl and she's going to like, fuck other guys, have three sons. You know, I mean, you pretty much had a lot, right? So why are you going to be like, why are you going to argue that one point, right? Especially because you could do other things with the women. Would you guys go, would you guys, like, did you guys have other couples? Like, did you have, like, relationships outside of, like, the Swingers Club? Like, did you ever post stuff on adult friend front or something?

as a couple and get people in? You know, it was always just something we did at the club when we wanted to. Right. It really never went outside of that. And that was kind of our rule was we, it was our alternative life. And we wanted to leave it right there and be able to go to untrouxed as you believe. We didn't want it to cross it into our normal life. I think that that's actually smart.

Yeah, yeah. I think that that's actually smart because I think that the, there's a very big difference between, you know, being, you know, with somebody else sexually when you're in a committed relationship and then, you know, having a crossover into something emotional. And I think emotional is worse. I mean, like, I'm sorry. Like if I knew, if I'm married for 20 years and my guy was out fucking a hooker every now and then that he never talked to, he went and he paid, he fucked her and left. Like, I don't think that that's that big of a deal. But if he's like texting a coworker, do you know what I mean? And like having an actual sort of relationship and start, you know, that's where, you know, that's where. you know, their trouble could start. So I think if you just go there, you have your sex and you leave and there's no exchanging of numbers or there's no seeing each other outside, then, you know, you could keep problems from, you know, it's a good way to stop things from happening that could happen in those kinds of situations, you know? Absolutely. Absolutely.

So there was never, you never cheated on her. She never had to cheat on you. I mean, you guys had, and you, you know, your relationship wasn't sort of compromised by outside people because you guys never engage with these people outside. How to come your relationship ended after three years? She, like I said, I was young. Yeah. And she was really more ready to settle down, like location-wise. It just wasn't in the cards for me.

And frankly, I didn't even know it until I drowned. What do you mean what wasn't in the cards for you? Settling down? Yeah, you know, life was still an adventure. And I'm sure it still is at 28. I mean, you're still really young. Right, exactly. Yeah, right.

Like, I can see the benefit of settling down and being there for anything. Mm-hmm. It just wasn't of any interest to me at the time. Right. You were still really young. Do you guys keep in touch? Do you keep in touch and, like, screw each other over the years that have passed, or did she, like, wind up getting married?

Do you know what happened to her? She, unfortunately, never. really found what she's looking for. Right, because it's kind of like it was just a timing thing. Like if you would have been older, she would have been younger, right? It wasn't like you guys weren't into each other. Like everything else was sort of, you guys were compatible, right? Yeah, that kind of sucks.

I mean, maybe in the future when you're older, I don't know. But wouldn't you say she hasn't found when she wanted it? Like, she's still single and she hasn't found someone to settle down with? Yeah, because she's a... Nobody knows who she is. Talk on her behalf. Why the fuck? She's got her list of

Frank. They're kind of hard. You mean she's picky? She's too picky? Yeah. Yeah, I would say so. Right, right. So you feel like she's sort of sabotage.

Like, you know, sometimes when people are like that, I believe it's because they don't really want a relationship, maybe, you know? Maybe. Because if they're unrealistic, you know, if she's unrealistically picky. You know, and at 31, you know, you're dating a 23-year-old. Like, you know, is that because, like, you know, you kind of know. you kind of know it's not going to last or it has a shelf life and you know you have an out. I always had commitment issues on my life. I don't have them anymore. It took a long time and a lot of work

to sort of work myself out of it because relationships to me always felt like a trap. Like it was like, oh, you know, so I always needed like some sort of door out, you know, an opening. And so to me, if it was someone was way too young or like, you know, if there's some sort of big red flag that you know, oh, you know, you could see the ending somewhere. That's kind of safe for people with commitment issues, you know. So you could take someone younger and you know, even a if I'm with that person for a couple of years, I'm never going to wind up with them. So it's kind of like a safe way to not, to have a relationship that, but not feel trapped if you have commitment issues.

Yeah, I think so. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. There's probably a lot of truth to that. Yeah, totally. I mean, I've lived that.

And sometimes I have a lot of girlfriends that are like, oh, he's complaining. They don't have somebody. But I just really feel like if you really want somebody, there's somebody for everybody. And I think you could find it if you're really open to it. And most people that don't have relationships is because on some level they don't want it. Or they're afraid of it or whatever. You know, I mean, you're still really young. So, you know, did you, you know, hook up with a 31-year-old swinger that you could fuck anyone with?

Because you had commitment issues? No, you were young. Like, you know, it was a different thing for you because, you know, you might not be looking for a relationship until you're 35, you know, or in your 30s or something. You know, you don't have to worry about that. Your jizz works until you're about 50, just so you know. No, like a woman over, like it's in her 40s, her eggs are failing and it's When a guy's like in his 50s, their sperm is failing

So, you know, you have a long time to like procreate and all that stuff, you know In between your like seven girls, you fucked on adult friend finders Do you have like people that you meet in real life that you've tried to have relationships with at all? I have, I have just nothing's really fanned out I mean, because how do you keep yourself busy besides, like, just, you know, text messaging people on adult friend finders? Like, do you have girls that you're texting and sexting and, you know, stuff to fill up your time? Or are you basically pretty much been single ever since you and that girl broke up? No, I've had things for just months at a time.

Like I said, it always lasts like two, three months. It's hard. I live in New York, and I don't want to date a guy that lives in, like, more than 10 blocks away from me. And you know what I mean? But that comes from like, I used to only date guys that lived. I dated a guy that lived in San Francisco, a guy that lived in Nashville, you know, long-term relationships were actually good. If you could find another girl with commitment issues, it might be a plus for her to have

you sort of gone a lot, you know, some sort of built-in distance can be a good thing for, like, the right dysfunctional girl, you know. Absolutely. It's the regular girls and the girls that are really looking for someone that's going to be like, fuck that, you know, like you really want, if you like somebody, I know for me now in my life, like if I really like a guy, like I just want to see him more and more. I just, it's really frustrating to me at a certain point if like he's gone all the time. Like it's really, even though nowadays, like it's really easy to keep in touch with FaceTime or Skype or whatever. And I think

maybe younger people because that's how they communicate. Like maybe that's enough. Like I think if you hook up with like a 21 year old, she'd be happy to just talk to you on Skype for a whole life. what her relationships are all about. Like my nephews, they don't even see each other in real life. Yeah, I'm not sad. I know. It's so weird. Listen, I'm way older than you. And like in my time, we had like answering machines and we, you had to meet somebody out. There was no cell phones, you know, it's a totally different world. Though I love it all. Like I'm totally into like growing with the times and stuff. I'm not complaining. But I just think that the younger, I'm old school. Like I like to talk on the phone. I like to see my friends in person. But I also like

text messaging and stuff. But I feel like the younger, younger generation, they do a lot of their interactions via emails and texts and social media and all that stuff. So I feel like maybe if you go for girls that are way younger that they'd be kind of fine.

But I don't even know. Are you even look like, do you wish you could find a girl that was into having a relationship with you and you just can't or are you not interested in that anyway? No, I'm totally interested in it. It's just not been very fertile over the last few years, so I bothered, you know.

Right. I think you have to try. Do you typically, do you like older women, or do you, I mean, are you sort of open? Like, if you were to put on your, I always am interested in age ranges on when I used to be on dating sites, the eight guys' age ranges were always so fascinating to me. It'd be like a 50-year-old guy in his age range would be like 23 to 35. Do you know what I'm saying? So, like, what's your age range for what you look for in a girl? Like, what's the age range for you?

I like older women. Right. Because if you're the type of guy that I think that you are, you say you're sort of a straight shooter, you're pretty open-minded, you're more evolved than the typical caveman guy. I always say you're farther away from the ape, you know? Like, the more evolved guys are like farther or, like, they're more evolved. And then there's some guys are like just like one step away from being a fucking ape, you know. But you're a little bit much more farther so you could appreciate it older women. but those are the women that are going to, you know, want to spend more time.

I believe if you go for a younger girl, if you set your sights for someone a little bit younger, that generation is very different and they probably wouldn't mind if you stayed connected via, you know, your iPhone or whatever. You could probably keep that relationship going. What's consultants? Like with consultants, I used to have roommates that were consultants when I was younger, so I know that deal. Like, is that, do you just work like that for your whole life or do you ever move on?

to like a different sort of schedule or are you just going to be traveling forever? No, I figure out sick with this and travel space until I get sick of it. Right. And then what do you move on to? Well, hopefully something into the management side. Right. And where do you just travel within the United States?

What's that? Do you travel within the United States? Yeah, it's all throughout the U.S. Do you have any like ongoing booty calls or anybody in some place where you do? travel to that you see on a daily basis so you can at least get like you have some action some constant action someplace yeah i've got i got long down in florida so right and when you see her you guys just screw and but it doesn't turn into anything more than that well frankly it's either one of us decided to you guys would be a good match yeah okay so and how old is she

she is 32 she's 32 and you're 28 now so that's a good thing and what do you mean like because you just said before when I asked you like would you be open to have a relationship you said that you would right is it that she's not open to it like what keeps you from having her be the one now she's not open to it she's not

yeah and I mean I agree with all the reasons and what are her reasons because you live someplace else and she lives in Florida Right, and she's gone all the time for her work. I'm here all the time for Whitehall, anything more than one day. Right, but maybe one day in the future, you feel like if you both sort of settle down or have more settled schedules or like, you know,

you would be more in sync with each other and would be able to date? Right. Do you guys keep in touch a lot? Like, do you do a lot of communicating or is just strictly like you see her when you're in Florida and you'd fuck and that's it? Because I think the reason why I think,

like certain people when they don't want a relationship, you have a long-distance thing, because it becomes like, at least for me in my long distance, it's like you're seeing somebody just on vacation, you know, and how much do you really know somebody when you're just having like these great weekends together outside of your real life, you know, and you never really get to see that person on a day to day basis in regular life. And I think the key to having a relationship or real intimacy comes when you really are like just day to day with somebody. And that's why I like to have a boyfriend that lives like, you know, two blocks away. So that you could, you know, you know whether it's going to work. Like that's what it's going to be, you know, in real life, you know, the day-to-day stuff. So I think it's like, you know, when you're having a situation where you're not even going there with somebody, how do you even know if they'd be right for you?

You really don't, you know? Yeah, you don't. And that's part of, you know, part of why we don't go any further, really. Yeah, totally. Did you meet her on Adult Friend Finder or did you meet her just like in your travels? Met her in my travels. In your travels. Okay, so tell me your hottest adult friend finder story if you can.

and then I'll let you go. Like who's the hottest bitch you found or the most interesting story? Have you ever had, or and also tell me your worst story? Like did you ever show up and it's like not the person? Like, do you have those stories too? Do you have a best and worst? Oh, yeah. Yep, yeah.

Okay. So the best story is in a different part of the nation. She was actually on the West Coast, but she was from my hometown. Okay. And did you know that do you guys, did you guys know that you were from the same hometown? Like, did you out yourselves early on with each other? Yeah. So we were talking, we found out of both in the same area.

Okay. No, she was. She was a 10. Well. Okay. Is that what you said? She was really good-looking? I thought that's what you said.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. She was very good looking. Okay. And so I was in her area for about a week. year and a half. And I'd say after like two, three days of talking, we'd try this thing out. Heavenly. Like the best sex ever?

Yes, probably the best sex ever had my life. And what happens after, like, you fly out of there? Like, how come you're not still screwing her? Sometimes, do you still go out there or do you not travel out there so you can't see her? I don't go out there too often. I don't go out there too often. I'm a deal when she's married. Oh, she was married. So he is cheating sex is sometimes very hot. We all know that. Yeah. Did you know her husband?

Was he from your hometown too? No, he was from the car area. He was from, oh, where she was from. So she was cheating on her husband with you. And like, so for that whole week that you were there, did you screw her more than once or was it just a one-night thing? No, it was. But were you guys like screwing in a van in a parking lot someplace?

Or was she coming to your house? Like, where does a married person screw people? I always think that they're doing it in a car. somewhere in a parking lot. Like, I guess because you're not married and you're there and you have a hotel room, you're screwing in your hotel room? Yeah, exactly. So she just came to the hotel room.

I mean, listen, don't get me wrong. I think sometimes, like, the screwing in the car or that kind of stuff, like, it's kind of fun, right? Like, that could be not just because it isn't, like, someplace normal. But so she would found fine reasons the whole time to just screw you as much as possible before you left and it was like the best sex ever. Right. And then on to the next one.

And so you don't keep in touch with her. Who was your worst? Or another good one. My listeners like these dirty stories. For me, I like to just interview people about their life stories because I find regular people to be fascinating. That's why I do my show. But I know that sometimes my listeners want to hear like dirty stories,

so I'm just trying to get some shit out of you. Or interesting stories, you know? That's why I asked for the bad ones too. No, so that was my death experience. Mm-hmm. You know, that was just perfect. I mean, I've had other really cool experiences. You know, I've met up with couples.

Fucking crazy. Right. And while they're guys watch or they join in, I mean, probably that there's so many different variations to that, right? Yeah. Well, you know, I think every other than I've overcome across. But they never just stay watching. Oh, they say that at first, like, we just want to watch, but then they just get so turned on that they join in. Yeah, so pretty much

I mean you end up You know undressing their wife And they come over to the bed And they're gone down on them And you know I don't know Maybe I'm paranoid But I always keep down with my husband

Because you just want to make sure That he's cool with what you're doing Right exactly I think that's cool of you I think that that's cool of you To be that way And they probably get the sense of that And that makes it like a good experience

Right Right So I mean So they're usually really far away and then they get a little closer and then they fall up a chair and then they're not usually call just take it out and enjoy it, have fun.

Right, and do they out like do you guys go through with these couples like are there all these things like discuss like you know he's not going to join in but he might or like you could do this do they have like parameters a lot of the times or rules or regulations or it's just like a free for all? Yeah, there's always some set of guidelines you know

and it's always like I said it's always It's all he's just going to watch. Right. And it never turns into that, which is fine. Like I said, I don't care about guys. What's the oldest couple you've been with? Like, how old are these couples that you've been with? Because you're pretty young.

You're in your 20s. Right. I was going to say, I would assume that they're like older couples. I don't know why I assume that. So they are mostly in their 40s? Yes. Yep. Yep. And you're into the whole mill thing?

You know, you used to turn into. but really aren't just into sexuality. Right. Like whatever is turning you on at that moment, like you're open. It's not like you have anything specific, right? Because you're just sexually open. A lot of it, if not 100% of it. It depends on the other person.

Yeah. You know, if they're into it, I mean, if they're into just watching you, have fun. That's great. That's a turn on. Right. If they're turned on, I'm turned on. Right, exactly.

Even the guy, like, is there, is there like a thing for you that's like a turn on that to have a guy watching you screw his wife? I'm sure you could turn that sort of a thing in your mind to be like a really like turned on situation, right? Oh, actually, it's a girl from dude's stroke as hard guy. Right. Even though it's not that you're looking at his cock and you're turned on, it's the situation. Because you're not by at all, but you're just open sexually. And now do any of your friends know about like the stuff that you're. you do or just like a private sort of life that you have?

This is entirely private to me. Right. This is why I do my show and I get people. I mean, it happened by accident that I solicited people on Craigslist because I just wanted like a call-in advice show because I like to analyze shit and talk to people and, you know, whatever. And I didn't want my friends to call in because I didn't want anyone to know I was doing it. So I just posted on Craigslist because it was free in the personal section.

And I just got all like these dudes looking for. advice. Like for me I always advertise like are you looking? Do you have a problem that you need help with or a secret life that you have that you want to divulge? You know, and I find that there's so many people. And that's like doing my show out there. You know, when people are sitting next to them, people work with them, people are friends with them that are have these sort of secret lives that they do because everyone's so, you know, a close minded and judgmental when it comes to what people do sexually, you know, so they have to keep it a secret. Yeah, it's weird. Like, why do people give a shit? I don't, you know what I mean? Like I don't, you know, I don't, I don't, I think it's very personal.

It's your own fucking business. It's, you know, it's what you like to do. It's what turns you on. I think on a certain level some people can't help it. Like, you know, it's like how you're wired and it's what you're into. And what does it matter? You know what I mean? And I've talked to the most freakyest people that are into those freakiest things.

And I don't think any different of them. You know, it's like what they do sexually or privately. And like I said, I think people keep a private because especially in this country, we're very prudish when it comes to sex. Other countries, they're much more open-minded. I've talked about this on the show before. I used to have a German friend. And when I was young, I drank law and I was pretty slutty.

And I used to have this German friend, and I'd call them up and be horrified about what I did sexually the night before. And he'd be like, I don't understand why you're so upset, Kathy. Like, in my country, you know, people do this all the time. Like, it doesn't matter, you know? They're much more open-minded. But here, we're so puritanical and weird about sex. And I think it's because people are just, like, fucking jealous and wish they were doing it,

you know, because everyone's secret. horn bags as far as I'm concerned. I would agree. Do you know what I mean? And, you know, it's sad because you've got, you know, women, I find they're more open to it, but more afraid to try it. Totally. And can I get that, you know, for a multitude of reasons?

Mm-hmm. Whereas guys, you know, like, like I've been in bed with a guy's wife, you know, you can tell the guy is just incredibly turned down. Right. You know, just, I mean, he's totally lost in it, you know, and so, you know,

I always tell, I'm like, yeah, come on over, it's cool. It's hot-in, you know? Right. Like, why if it's getting to your life, hey, you should more merrier, you know? Right, uh-huh. And always, always, always,

the first thing they do is end up touching my cat. You're kidding. I kid you not. I mean, they go in and, you know, they act like they're going to mess with their life. And I've always ended up with a hand on my cut. Right.

So you believe, like, that's like what they really want to do. And maybe they're little by or they're just sort of, you know, curious, right? But they just need to be talked into it. Yeah, I think so. Or me to feel comfortable. Right. I think most guys. a woman into, or excuse me, a guy into their marriage, if you will, because they want to be with a guy.

Right. And now how far has that hand on your dick went? Like, have you ever been jerked off by a guy? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Right. But this is the thing, Tom. Some people would say, I know that I'm going to get emails from listeners being like, I call bullshit.

Like, he's totally bisexual. Like if someone jerked me off, right? A guy jerked a guy off. he would consider himself by, but you don't consider yourself bisexual. Yeah, because it frankly does nothing for it. Right, but you allow them to do it because you're cool and you don't want to ruin the moment kind of thing. Well, yeah. I mean, I've mentioned you're, you know, just making out with them, playing with the wife.

It's like, hey, dude, do you want to go for that? Go for it. Oh, my God, you're like, that's so funny. You're like, that's like the victim mentality. Like, oh, like, I should allow you to. do that because like you kind of feel like obligated you're like I'm letting he's letting me fuck his wife I should let him touch my dick oh my god that's so that's so funny so you just allow yourself to sort of be violated but you don't feel like it's a violation or you're not freaked out

by that I was the first time but well just so you know you can say no no no means no next time if you don't want them touching your dick you can be like sorry I'm gonna fuck your wife but you're not gonna touch my dick like I mean you can make those parameters if you want you know right right but it is interesting yeah it is interesting that I have like it's I don't know I think a lot of people are kind of by and I think that there's like a ratio you know like it's very rare that you meet someone that's completely 100% heterosexual or a hundred percent homosexual I mean you meet them it's not rare like you meet them but I think a lot of people fall in between that you know and some people are like 90%,

you know, straight, but maybe 10% curious, you know, and I have a lot of guy friends, and I think a lot of them, if I found out that they were fucking a guy or they blew a guy or they got blow, you know, I would not be surprised because, I don't know, aren't you just like curious even? Like, you know,

and then there's something that I know, like, they're completely not into it, but I think a lot of them are curious and, you know, I mean, I have, my co-host that used to work on the show he owned a gay bar. I mean, he had guys in his gay bar that were straight up living double lives. I mean, they were totally queer and they had wives at home and that they were like, you know,

meeting their boyfriends at his bar and then going home to the suburbs to meet their wives, you know, that's a whole other thing. Well, you're... You're going to go back for both parties on that side, though. Totally. And that's a generation thing. I think in that generation, because these are older guys. It was just so wrong.

Like, they weren't allowed to be gay. You have to feel sorry for them. Totally. You know, and on some level, don't their wives know. Like, I don't know. Remember that Jim McQuary guy or whatever the fuck his name was? And his wife was like, she's like some big victim when the guy was gay the whole time. It was like, come on.

On some level, you had to have known. You know what I mean? Right. Right. Yeah. I think if you don't know. Yeah. No, they don't want to know.

That's what it is. So it's like like it tracks like, whatever. As much as he's a liar, you're in denial and that's basically lying to yourself. So you're both liars, you know. But whatever. I think it's interesting that the guys kind of touch your dick and you get, I think it's even more interesting that you allow them to and you're not really into it. Do you ever, you've never, so you don't come from it.

Or do you? No. No. No. Like I said, it really just doesn't interest me. And, you know, most people, if they don't pick up on that right away, you just tell them they like, stop their thing. Right.

So it doesn't go on for that. Did anyone ever try to, like, give you a blowjaw? Yeah. You know what I mean? I've had people try I've had people just like start to go down that way and you know

Right that's where you draw the line And do you like You've never like made out with a guy or anything have you No Right So they've tried to suck your dick and you're like No You won't do that even for

Even as a victim No You won't give them a pity blowjob Because they're letting you fuck you Their wife Like that's where you draw the line It's interesting Okay Tom

Well you know good luck on adult friend finder. You know, hopefully, eventually. I think my advice to you, even though you're not calling my show for a problem, but I think if you want a relationship, you should try younger girls. I think they're more likely to be cool

with your lifestyle. I think you should try it. And I also think you should try to do, I think you should also try to do regular websites too. Just put on there straight up that you travel most of the time for business and you might find a like-minded person. If you're really ready for a relationship, but that's what you're looking for.

there's somebody for everybody and I bet you anything you could find a girl and make it work with your schedule somehow I believe that yeah yeah I think so you know it's a good point about the younger girls that might uh you get a younger girl with a like what a couple more than a couple months yeah with the younger girls like you know a lot of times there's that you get a younger girl with an older soul you know and she can be pretty mature and like minded look at 23 you were you know this person that was like totally able to relate to a 31 year old. So you were very ahead of your time. So there's probably a 23 year old out there like you, you know, that's looking for you know, a guy that's like her, you know?

So. Yeah. Yeah, but like, you know, if I think if you like go on to the other websites, go back on there and do business on there as well, you more likely have a chance to find somebody. Though you do want to be, you're going to have a relationship with someone, you want to be open about the stuff that you do, right? you want to swing with people? Is that a definite thing that you want in your relationship? Or do you believe that you could have just a one-on-one monogamous relationship without that kind of stuff?

I don't know if I could do that. Right. So you would, yeah. And I think, like I said, also with the younger generation, I think they're more open to doing things that are more out of the box. So try that. And keep me posted. Let me know how it goes. I'll, I'll email you when I post your podcast.

I'm going to probably post it tonight. But I'll send you an email. And you need to give me your email address, though, when I hang up, when I end the podcast. You give me your email address so I could send you an email. Okay? Okay. Cool. All right.

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