Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 075 - Walker the Exhibitionist Leads a Double Life

Episode Date: May 25, 2015

Sixty year old Walker has been married for 30 years but that has noever stopped him from having sex with other people. Walker has hooked up with women and trannies as well as has had virtual sex wi...th other men on AdultFriendFinder.com to satiate the exhibitionist and voyuer inside of him. He explains how he does it, why he does and what he gets out of it. Tune in for all the juicy details. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. Strictly anonymous podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. The Craigslist is definitely like the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it.
Starting point is 00:00:17 The temptation is just too much. It's real problem. Your friend know that you're banging her or no? No, he has no idea. And anything goes. Motto of the show, let your freak flag fly. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to rehire. your whips and chain. Here is your host, Kathy.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Hey, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the Strictly Anonymous podcast on Instagram or Twitter, follow the show at Strict Anonymous. Today I have a guy named Walker calling into the show. And he's another guy I found on adult friend finders. And he's about 60 years old and he's married and he plays around on adult friend finders and other sites, I think. travels a lot for business so cheating and you know sort of living a double life is very easy for him he's not calling looking for advice or anything he's just calling to uh sort of reveal his secret life and that's what we talk about um it's always interesting to me these guys you know i mentioned it on a
Starting point is 00:01:19 very early episode which probably a lot of you haven't listened to it i think it was the one with bondage guy it was like probably like my second episode i ever taped and bondage guy was like sort of the same as this walker guy which I'm assuming, and I think Walker confirmed, he's like this type of guy. But the very wealthy type of guy who's always on the road, who's living like a completely double life. And the double life is always like involving, you know, extramarital affairs, a lot of SCX and kind of stuff going on. Bondage guy's secret life was he was very into bondage. And he had admitted on that call that he was driving around with his whips and chains in his back of his trunk. And I was like, why don't you, you know, hide them?
Starting point is 00:01:57 Like the back of your trunk is like fucked up, right? Because like we all know he's going to get an car accident one day. And then the cops are going to be like, what the hell are these? And he's going to get busted and he's going to be dead. So he won't be able to explain himself. And then his poor wife's going to have to be like, oh, my God. So I came up with this thing on that episode where I thought I should start a business, which would be like a cleanup service for these type of men.
Starting point is 00:02:17 The minute they get off or they die, you know, because they don't know that they're going to die and have like warning about it. Like, you know, they could just die out of nowhere from a heart attack or on a plane and a plane crash or whatever. whatever. Right? Like shit happens. And who's going to take care of all this stuff? Like who's going to get rid of Walker's, you know, adult friend finder profile and all this stuff? Like, could his wife find that shit if he passed on tragically in a fast way without, you know, warning? So I thought of creating that service. I think it's a good service. I should still look into it. I don't know if something like that exists. I'm assuming that these very well-to-do guys have
Starting point is 00:02:59 somebody in charge of taking care of that mess or, you know, sort of paying off people or doing whatever they have to do, you know, maybe they do it in their will. I don't know. Do these guys have somebody in their life that does that for them? I know I have a friend who's, you know, in that status and has a very secret life, which I don't even know about, but he won't admit it to me, but I'm sure he does. And I'm going to offer it up to him and see if he thinks that people in his financial bracket is that the right term would need something like that because I think it's a good idea it's like a clean-up service for wealthy men to clean up their trash because the sad thing is that so many people are very judgmental when it comes to sex people really give a shit
Starting point is 00:03:43 about what other people do sexually and they get really super pissed off or judgmental you know about what other people do sexually which really is like so ridiculous because like Unless they're like fucking your husband or your son or your wife or, you know, they're doing something sexually that directly affects you. Why do you care? Why do people care? I think people that listen to my podcast don't care. They're curious.
Starting point is 00:04:06 They're interested. So you're pretty open-minded about sex. But we all know those people, you know, especially here in America, who are really judgmental about it. Like, who cares what people are doing? I feel like, I don't, I don't know. Like, I prefer, I mean, I don't care what you do sexually. I just, I don't like if, like, you lie and you say.
Starting point is 00:04:24 steal and you're not a nice person. Like that to me is offensive and that I judge in other people and that I don't like. But sex, what you do sexually, I don't really care. I don't care if you fuck goats. I've talked about that before. I'd rather be friends with a goat fucker than a chronic liar, terrible person. You know, because like, who cares if you fuck goats? Anyway, so, so that's what I have on the call today. Not a goat fucker, but a guy that might need my service one day, which is a cleanup service, because he, He's a wealthy dude who's on the road and who lives a double life that has a lot to do with sex. So I'll be right back on with Walker.
Starting point is 00:05:03 How are you? Terrific, Kathy. And you today? I'm good. So I typically get my guests from Craigslist or adult friend finders. I got a lot of people off of like being, like I went on to adult friend friends for like a week and I got a lot of guys that were interested in calling in and revealing or talking about their secret lives that they live on adult friend finders. When I get the guys from Craigslist, they send me. it's more like they respond to an ad
Starting point is 00:05:26 like they do have a problem and do you need advice and so I get long-winded emails from them about some sort of issue that they have most of the time it's about sex and we discuss it with the by adult friend finder guys it's like they just say hey I'm interested in being on the show and I'll talk about anything like you said and I have them on and so I
Starting point is 00:05:42 never know what their deal is the only thing I know about you is that you're on adult friend find finder is you're 60 I checked out your profile you didn't really tell me what we were going to talk about except that nothing was off limits which is great for my show you're six years old, you're married. You, from what I saw in your profile, you're looking for women to play.
Starting point is 00:06:03 You travel a lot for business. And that's what you do. Now, the thing that was weird to me, because I had been talking to you for a while before I got you on the call, was that when I really look through your profile, it said that you do not put pictures of your face or anything like that on your profile, you know, because you like to stay anonymous, which I would assume is smart because you weren't married. But then recently I saw a picture of you where you're like in a mirror in a really nice hotel room and you took a picture of yourself totally naked and your face is in it. So I was like a little confused that you were like outing yourself and I thought like, oh, that's a little bold considering you are married. So is that whole thing about staying anonymous?
Starting point is 00:06:43 I mean, you're still married? Yes. And you're right. I decided to just kind of take a bold step while the face is sort of, you can see it. There's the phones in front of me. I don't think you could pick me out of a crowd if I passed you on the street. Definitely not. But your wife could.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Do you think, like, right? Yeah, she could. But I, yeah, in the number of ways, she probably could. But I don't think the odds of her ever getting on this site, whatever happened. But if it did, it did. Right, right. Or other people. I'm just saying, I mean, you must know a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:07:21 I'm assuming, I mean, you're in that, and I don't know why. Did you like the photo, by the way? It's fine. Listen, you know, you had like that photo, right? And then you had like 10 dick picks, right? And I've always wanted, I've had a couple guys in my life that were, like, obsessed with setting me dick picks. And I've always wanted, and I think a lot of men are into that.
Starting point is 00:07:41 It's like that Anthony Weirner thing. Like, it's like he would, like, I had one guy that I dated for a while. And it would just be. constant. Like, and he was, you know, a CEO of a Fortune 500 company. He was always on a plane. He was always elsewhere. It almost seemed like he was actually more into like the long distance or far away kind of sacks. Like there's tons of dick picks when he was away and then he'd get here and I maybe see him like, you know, once. But he had this thing and I've always wanted to talk. He would never come on my podcast, but I've always wanted to talk about or talk to a guy that's into the dipicks or what is
Starting point is 00:08:13 it about sort of showing yourself in that way that is such a turn on. But I don't know if that's your thing. That's just what I saw on your profile. It was like eight dick picks. And then all of a sudden there was a pick of your face. And I was like, oh, that's kind of interesting because you are married. And I figured it's a secret life you're living an adult friend finder that like, I don't know, wouldn't you be. But I mean, well, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, also classify myself as a voirier and also I am an exhibitionist. And this is a great way to do that. Right. How long you've been married for? Over 30 years. Over 30 years. And for for some reason, I guess, because the
Starting point is 00:08:49 picture of the hotel that you were staying on looked very five-star, and you said in your profile that you travel a lot, I just assumed that you were like, you know, a guy that's, I don't know if you're whether you're in your finance or whatever you do, you're a high-level executive, you travel a lot,
Starting point is 00:09:05 and you have a lot of cash, and so you probably could get a lot of women. Yeah, your assumptions are right, and I also think that's probably what leads to, I mean, I'm a very sexual insatiable type of guy I always have been
Starting point is 00:09:20 but I also think that when you're in a job where you're very stressful it's very high pressure you're always in command and you're always making a bunch of decisions this kind of hobby lends itself to
Starting point is 00:09:42 the kind of guys that you described in the kind of man that I am oh that's kind of interesting It's sort of like a release because you're under so much stress and you're doing so much, right? It's like no different than if you just went and checked out like it drank a lot after work, right? Yeah, totally. It's a hobby. I mean, that's exactly what it is.
Starting point is 00:10:00 And it's one that provides a very stimulating release and also a very stimulating lifestyle in that, you know, there's lots of times during the day. if I'm under a lot of pressure and I got a lot of stuff going on, if I know that I'm going to have perhaps an encounter in the evening, either on cam or in person, it makes the day even go better. Yeah, no, and I would sometimes, because, you know, my guy was on the road all the time. He did, he was, you know, he traveled for business internationally
Starting point is 00:10:37 constantly and he was more out of town than he was in town. And, you know, sometimes it would be, I would be like, how the hell, like, this is a guy that's like more successful than anyone I know. You know, he has more responsibility, like you said. He's making more decisions than anyone I know yet. He could sext me for like two hours. You know, it's like his hard on and his sort of fantasy of like having this sort of virtual experience with me could last for hours.
Starting point is 00:11:01 And it just like seems like a big waste of time. But I guess, and I never thought of it that, you know, it's what you say. It's that, you know, because he is when you're that high level, you have so much pressure. You know, he would say happy, I'm making, you know, decisions. on billions of dollars and so many people's lives rely on me. So, you know, if you're in that position that you do need a release, like how do men like you sort of survive? Because it does seem that a lot of guys, like you are doing a lot of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:28 And one, I think it's because, you know, guys are just wired that way and they like sex and they like variety. And, you know, if you have that access to it and you're a wealthy man and women are attracted to that and you could have it, why wouldn't you want it? You know? Exactly. And even at 60, you know, a lot of, I have friends in this town that I would say after, my hairdresser just told me this, and he was always a really hot guy. He's a straight guy and he doesn't have a lot of cash. And he was saying how he started to feel invisible all of a sudden, like once he turned 60, you know, but that doesn't happen to a guy like you. Because when you have power and you have money, that's attractive to women.
Starting point is 00:12:06 So it's like age is different for men. You know, I mean, it's not if you don't have the cash, but the cash definitely changes the game. for you. Like, you're lucky as a guy. As I think of what I'm doing. Well, you mentioned that you've seen my profile and you saw my photos and you saw the new one. Do I look healthy to you? Yeah, sure. Yeah. I mean, listen, but I'm sure there are a lot of guys that still look good for 60, but they can't get laid all the time because women aren't interested in them because they're a little older. It's like a woman and, you know, women have the same sort of problem,
Starting point is 00:12:40 if not worse, because whether, even if you have a lot of cash, at 60 as a woman, nobody really wants to fuck you. I mean, it's not going to happen. It's a different thing for men and women, but I don't want to get into that. I want to get more into the stuff that you do on adult friend of dinner. So you go on there and you look for women that you could sort of hook up while you're traveling. And men are women?
Starting point is 00:12:59 Are you by or are you just straight? I forgot what it said on your profile. I'm bi-curious. You're bi-curious. So that means you're open to having experience with a guy. You still haven't. So there's a couple of things. I have had full-bore experience with a transsexual.
Starting point is 00:13:20 So even though they're gorgeous women, they still have a very functioning penis, which I find to be a very turn-on, and I have no problems in giving oral and receiving oral from that individual and touching it and playing with it. And I have experimented with anal, both top and bottom. Okay. With a Trannin. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Doing a man real time, you know, in the same room together. Uh-huh. But I will, but I will tell you that on, on Adult Friend Finder, uh, I enjoy coming you, I would assume, right? Like you said. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:14:12 You're a voyer and an exhibitionist. Exactly. Right. So it goes both ways. Yeah, adult friend fighter, like, I never had been on there before, but when I went on for my show, and I don't beat and switch anybody, I have on there exactly what I'm doing. You know, but I have to go on there and look around. And I'm just like, oh, my God, there's a lot of stuff in here.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Sometimes I tell my Craigslist callers, because, you know, there's a lot of guys on Craigslist looking for chicks. And it's like, there's not a lot of chicks in there. And there's a lot of, like, you know, dudes pretending their chicks and a lot of spam that I'm like, why don't you go on adult friend finders? Like, I don't know if it's, and, you know, are the women real on there? Because it seems like there's a lot more, you know, real stuff. I think you find, you find a few that are, I think there's a lot of people on Adolphin Finder that like to play that would never do anything in person.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Right. So it's all like virtual cyber sex stuff that people do. It's a lot of cyber sex. It's a lot of fantasy. Like there's a lot of guys that if I go on cam and because I am still, healthy and I don't have to take, thank God, any medications in order to get... No Viagra for you? Nope.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Okay. And I'm, you know, I'm a good seven and a half inches and thick and uncut. And that seems to be very attractive to a lot of men for some reason to see uncut penises. Really? Yeah. I guess maybe because they don't see it that often. I think that's true. And I get that same comment from some women, mostly younger women.
Starting point is 00:15:40 We'll say that. And they will watch me, and I enjoy performing for them, and they enjoy seeing it, and they will say a lot of things if they get you into the IM session of sending things back and forth. And you know that it's never going to happen, but they enjoy it. Sometimes I will get a guy that will want to call me. Sometimes I get women that will want to call me. Women are a little more cautious about calling you or you calling them. Right. But they'll do that, and that's about as far as they'll go.
Starting point is 00:16:12 You know, I've tested the waters a couple times with a few guys, giving them an email address and saying, you know, well, let's hook up, we'll meet somewhere. I won't meet in a car. I won't meet for a 15-minute session if we need. I want to meet in a hotel, and I want to meet before that, and blah, blah, blah. And then that scares them away right away. So, you know, they're just out there just, you know, for the moment, which that's fine with me. I'm not looking for that either.
Starting point is 00:16:37 but I do like I said I don't think I don't think that I would probably ever go well I might it depends on the situation and who the man might be one on one or in person but I do enjoy having them watch me and I do enjoy watching
Starting point is 00:16:55 them. Have you only been with one tranny or more than one? I've been with a couple okay and how did you find them was that strictly was that on adult front finders or what else do you do like how else do you neat people. Yeah, I found one on the Dalt Trend Finder and then and then I actually found one through an escort service. Right. And that was like an escort service that matched you up like it's a tranny
Starting point is 00:17:23 kind of a situation. You were on the road. Well, I don't know if you're familiar with the website EROS, EROS. Yep. But you can find some very, very attractive women on there that are women and also transsection. Right. And so you decided one day like, I mean, is it the type of thing where like if you could, you have access to so many women and I'm assuming you get attractive women, right? That after a while it's like kind of been there done that you need something a little bit new because it's just like you've had so much women that may be like a woman that's like really attractive but has a dick, you know, takes it to another level that's exciting because it's like, you know, you've done everything there is with women for so long. Yes, I think that's very true. Yeah, I think so. I mean, to me, sex is sex, whether it's male female or a male transsexual or you're camming or you're at a swing club or whatever it might be. Right. Do you go to swing clubs too?
Starting point is 00:18:26 I've gone to a couple, yes. And do you get a lot of action from, or this is what I want to know because I, you know, I was talking about my cleanup service before that I've tried. try to be like to warn people, you know, like where do you do your business with all of these people? Like, do you have a separate phone? I know my friend had like three phones. Do you have a separate phone or how do you do it so that you know you're not going to get caught or busted? Yeah, well, most of it's done through doing it through this. Or I have another phone that I use that I will have people either call me on or I will text them on and that sort of thing. Mm-hmm. And you've been married to your wife for 30 years and no kids.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Do you feel like if your wife found out, do you think she'd be surprised or do you think she sort of has a clue but she doesn't care? Like, you know, you've been married for what, 30 years? Yeah, I think it's probably a combination of. I don't think she would really, I don't think she would really care a lot. and that doesn't mean that, you know, we don't have a very strong relationship. But I also don't think that she'd be totally surprised because she knows how I am. And if she knows that it's, I'm going to find it. Right, exactly. And, I mean, after 30 years, like, what's your sex life with your wife?
Starting point is 00:19:55 You know, when you're married to somebody for a long period of time, let's face it, eventually the excitement factor there, unless you participate in something like this together, which she would never do, it starts to wane. Yeah, how could it not? Yeah, the excitement starts to wane. And I think that's partly what leads people into even being curious and experimental and inquisitive in finding sites like Adolf and Finder and that sort of thing. Right. Because listen, you don't want to leave, you're never going to leave your wife for anyone. This is not, like you're happy with that situation and you have that there. This is just like sex. You're still interested in sex. You said you have a strong libido. You don't even need, I mean, at 60, you don't need var. How many times could you have an orgasm in one day? I mean, a lot of guys I know, a lot of guys I know, they get 40, there's such a difference, you know, 40 or they're getting close to 50. A lot of my guy friends, I mean, they could maybe fuck once and come and then, you know, that's it. There's no more like, you know, five times or one.
Starting point is 00:20:58 whatever. Yet I meet every now and then, a guy who's older, God bless you, a guy who's older who could totally do it and they swear they're not on Viagra. And I'm like, bullshit, because how could you do it more than once? I mean, you say you have an insatiable desire. So, you know, I'm assuming you're at six years old can still like do it more than once a day. Oh, absolutely. I'm not like I once was, of course. But if, you know, if I, if I, if I, if I had sex in the morning, and, you know, I came, and I usually come a lot. I could certainly do it again midday, and I could certainly do it again in the evening. And you meet women through business as well, right?
Starting point is 00:21:46 Like, I mean. Yes. Business, lots of times if you're on the road and you're at the hotel, and, you know, you don't feel like really having, I don't like the set of the dining room table. if I don't have somebody, if I don't have a dinner companion, I will eat at the bar, which I enjoy very much, or you have a drink at the bar alone. It doesn't take long before you will normally find somebody that is in the same situation you are. She's on the road.
Starting point is 00:22:15 It's the end of the day. She wants to have a drink. One drink rates a two. You start talking. Invariably, it always ends up talking about something male, female. And you just kind of take it. get from there. Right. And most of these women will just go back to your hotel room and
Starting point is 00:22:31 bang you? Yeah. Interesting. I don't, see, you know what my problem is? I don't drink. I haven't drank in like a really long time. So that would never happen. I could never have that experience, I don't think, because it would take me a little longer, you know, so I always,
Starting point is 00:22:47 but I think alcohol really helps the situation. Like you give a woman a couple of drinks and she'll fuck you the first night. Whereas I think that if she doesn't it would be a little bit harder. But that's just the alcohol thing. Well, and it's also how you treat women. If you talk to women and you're not, if you
Starting point is 00:23:03 come on like a predator, you're not going to get anywhere. If you come on as a gentleman and you have an interesting conversation and you make ladies laugh and you have a good conversation and you're having fun, it's pretty easy to take that and transfer that to either
Starting point is 00:23:19 her room or your room. Right. And if you're not, listen, you know, people, whether your man or women, were animals too, right? And we're always picking up on people's vibes, you know, and we pick up on things that we don't even know we pick up. And I think attraction is about that, right? So if a guy like you, you're not desperate, right? You get late all the time. You could get women. You're a powerful dude, right? You travel all the time. So it's not like you don't, you know, if the guy is like that and he, like you say, if he comes on
Starting point is 00:23:45 like pretty letcherously, like a woman's going to be turned off. They could smell desperation. They could smell a guy that's just like just trying to get down their pants and is very needy of that. And it's not attractive. But if you're confident, you know, you're not desperate. I think women know that. And vice versa. You know, I mean, a man will pick that up too. I don't know that a man will give a shit. Well, I will also tell you if you, and, you know, I don't think that I, I don't look 30,
Starting point is 00:24:13 but I don't think I look 60. It's hard to tell in that picture a little bit. I mean, as far as the face, right. Right. And, you know, I dress well. And so I'm, you know, I'm fine. I will tell you that I have more success in meeting women who are in their late 20s, mid-30s, than you do women that are in their mid-40s or 50s.
Starting point is 00:24:40 And why do you think that is? I think there's a lot of baggage to a lot of women that are in their 40s and 50s and the ladies that are in their late 20s and 30s think more like guys. Uh-huh. It's a different generation, it's generational, I think. Yeah, and they dress different. I mean, if I'm sitting at a bar and a really attractive young woman comes in and she's dressed in business clothes, be it a nice pants outfit, or she's wearing, you know, a nice top and a nice short skirt with nice heels. Uh-huh. And you set and you start chit-chatting and talking with her, her body language in the way she will start to expose herself to you will tell you whether you're going to be able to control. continue this or not. Right, exactly. You know. You've been around the block. And I've had, I've had,
Starting point is 00:25:31 I've had women in that age group actually, um, uh, make the first move. So, right. But let me ask you this. Do you start relationships with them or are they typically like one-offs? Like, are you exchanging emails and texting them a lot and keeping in contact with them afterwards? Or is it just purely a sexual thing? No, it depends. Sometimes it's just purely a one-off one, one-time affair, times you try to stay in touch with each other and try to coordinate schedules and find out what's going on in their life and your life. And I don't text pictures back and forth, nor do they meet. If they did, I would end it quickly because I'm not looking for that. And I tell you, it's also interesting. There's an awful lot of women that are in that age range, again, 28 to say
Starting point is 00:26:21 35 or so. Uh-huh. That really have a thing for older men, which I don't know whether that ties back to some older men in their life or not, but some of them are very curious to see. You know how actually the men... You know, or do you think it might be like a fetish thing too, you know, or just like something different because like, you know, a girl that age if she's attracted, if she could get any hot young guy, right?
Starting point is 00:26:40 Well, they also, they also, I think they also know that if they come on to me or that happens to me, they know that I'm not going to be the moonstruck 20-year-old or 25-year-old their own age that one could be a loser to begin with or somebody that's just going to be chasing them constantly. Right. I don't know that women mind that so much. I think it might also be, you know, listen, if you're a powerful guy and you have a lot of money, it's just, it's nature.
Starting point is 00:27:07 It's like that's what women are sort of bred to be attracted to. So that plays into it. I don't you believe on a certain level? I think so. I think so. And I think the, you know, the older. age thing could be like a fetish. It's something different. It's something new. It's like why you're interested in trainees. It's just like those women could get like a young hawk guy, but it's like
Starting point is 00:27:28 somebody that's like something new. If she's never been with an older man, that's hot. It's like younger men that want to fuck a 45 year old. You know what I mean? It's the same sort of a situation, you know, and that's hot to them because it's something new. They haven't experienced it. So how old are you, Kathy? I'm 46. Okay. Yeah. So what are you attracted to? I never really talk about me on the podcast. I focus on you. What I was going to ask you really quick was that what is your type. Are you the type of guy that's like attracted to everything and, you know, all kinds of women?
Starting point is 00:27:59 Or do you have something specific that you go looking for? And what do you consider yourself on a scale of one to ten? I always ask my callers. I mean, I can't really see you on that picture. So I don't know. And I wouldn't give you my opinion. But what's your opinion of yourself? Oh, I think I don't think that I'm a ten.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I think in personality in some ways I'm a ten. but I think it looks. I've been told that I'm attractive and handsome. I would probably get myself somewhere eight and a half to nine. Well, that's very attractive. Eight and a half and nine is good. Most people are my, I mean, I only had one guy that said he was 12, but he was like certifiably nuts.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Most people say six or seven, eight and a half or nine is definitely, you know, confidence in yourself. What about your wife? What do you give her on a scale? scale one to ten? I would get for the same thing, eight and a half to nine.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Right. And as far as what you're attracted to or you look for in women, is it, are you attracted to all different kinds of things? That's what I would assume since you're so curious and open. Well, first of all, I am definitely a leg guy.
Starting point is 00:29:06 So I love, I love legs. But I didn't go for the total package. You know, I like somebody that is professional looking, somebody. Jeans and t-shirts are great also, but I'm talking about somebody that knows how to dress, somebody that dresses for themselves as well as for others.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I don't like real sloppy. I like, they don't have to be skinny, but I don't like overly overweight folks. It just doesn't turn me on. Short hair, long hair is fine. I'm more attracted to blondes than probably that I am normally. and, you know, I like a woman who is comfortable about being sexual and comfortable with herself, and that comes through, and there's a huge turn-on when there's a woman enjoys being a woman. She may be extremely competitive and may be very, very tough in her own way,
Starting point is 00:30:06 but she still deep down enjoys being a woman, and that is an extremely exciting turn-on. right and that's a matter of like listen a lot of guys I think you know a lot of those women out there that are like that you know it's about a guy bringing that out in them you know so if you treat that woman that maybe a lot of other people would be intimidated by or they you know men would sort of be intimidated right not see them as a woman and they can't bring that out but that's a matter of how you treat them right if you're very respectful and you treat that woman yep and I'm not into needy clingy right well that would be not good for you because you're not looking to have to have. I mean, the cool thing about you that I think is good, because I've talked a lot about monogamy on the show, and I think it's kind of like unrealistic. And it's sad for women that were sort of, you know, taught that it is. You know, and it's what we are supposed to expect.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And it's just a very unrealistic thing. But I think, and I, but I think that there's different levels of cheating. And what I've always said is, like, if I was with a guy for 20 years and he went out on fucked hookers or had one-offs, like it doesn't, it wouldn't really bother me because I know how men are. Like, sex is just sex, and it's, that's what it is. And it doesn't
Starting point is 00:31:12 mean anything. But a lot of men that I know that cheat, they cheat in a different way, whereas it's not just about sex. It's about feeding their ego and getting women to like them, you know, and, and they use sexes that way. And so that, you know, when that's involved and it's that sort of neurotic drive and a man, it's like they're doing a lot of texting and a lot of, you know, because they still need to get the women to like them. And that, to me, is a lot worse. Because A, that could lead to, you know, that's like full-blown affairs. And a lot of guys get it confused and they think, oh, that's just a guy thing. That's how guys are. But I don't really think so. If it's just about sex and you need variety, then you do it the way
Starting point is 00:31:48 you do it. You know, you're not looking for, you know, you cut these women off. You don't want any of that stuff. You have that woman at home. You have that sort of relationship and you get all of those needs met, I'm assuming, from your wife. And really what you're doing with these other women and men is just satisfying your sexual fantasies or whatever. Right. Right. Right. It really is what I'm not trying to. cheapen it or minimize it or anything, but I mean, it really is a hobby. Mm-hmm. Right. And it's a and it's a fulfilling hobby, you know, it, you know, if I'm on cam and doing, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:28 and I see five, six, seven, eight people starting to watch me, that's an exciting, extremely exciting, erotic turn on. And I don't always have to come in order to make that a great experience. Really? Yeah. It's fun just showing up. And then do you use those thoughts later when you jerk off or something? I mean, so, you know, what's the pleasure in that?
Starting point is 00:32:51 It's just the experience while you're in it to be sort of horny. It's the pleasure of knowing that I could be on cam for as high as 20 to 30 minutes, playing with myself and masturbating and putting on a basic little show. and knowing that those people are engaged with me for that length of time. Right. And sometimes they'll send an I.M. Sometimes they won't. Sometimes I'll send them and I am and ask them if they're excited. And, you know, the other day I had a guy that I came across, no pun intended.
Starting point is 00:33:29 And he was starting to get a little aroused. And he came, he saw me and he started watching me. And I could see he was getting a little more aroused. And I saw pre-come. And I said, so am I making you wet? And he said, yes. And he then got a little more aroused. And I sent him a note and said, so am I causing this that's going on I'm seeing right now?
Starting point is 00:33:54 And he said, yes, very much. And then he wanted to know if he could come watching me. And I said, sure. And he did. And he did a lot. But you did it. But I didn't. But that was a big turn on for me.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Right. But how come that didn't make you come? I wasn't really in the mood or in the vein that really need to come at that particular time. Lots of times I can just sometimes I can either physically come and it's, you know, obviously, it's obvious. Or I can come in my own mind and that's fulfilling itself. Or I just get the real turn on out of knowing that I excited somebody to the point of where they got so excited that they came. Right, because of you. Now, do you do these, like, online cam things ever when you're home?
Starting point is 00:34:41 Or is it always strictly when you're out of the house traveling for business? Oh, no. I do it when I'm home or, you know, when I'm alone. And I have a good time alone or in my own office in the house or later in the evening sometimes. And, of course, then on the road in the hotel room, I will lots of times just set the laptop up and turn the camera on and let it watch me, you know, getting ready in the morning, whether, which I find in a lot of people are very interested in. They'll watch me get into the shower, watch me get out of the shower, they'll watch me dry off or watch me shave.
Starting point is 00:35:16 I'm nude the whole time, you know, and they enjoy that. And the exhibitionist in you likes that, because I was going to say, like, what do you get out of that? Just knowing that people are watching? Yep, totally exhibitionist there. Right. And you said you go to swing clubs? Not on a frequent basis, but there's a couple that I've gone to in Miami,
Starting point is 00:35:36 and there's a couple here in New York that avail themselves. And you can either go with somebody and then split off or you can go as a pair and stay together. And again, a lot of that is exciting if you hook up with somebody and to know that there are other people maybe not really participating but they're watching you. It's very exciting. And as a man, my friend ran one or he like worked at one
Starting point is 00:36:00 and I used to love his stories. But at that one, if you were a guy, I mean, women could go in solo. right but if you were a guy you couldn't get in without a woman right that's correct the way that it goes in a lot of cases yeah and so if you're in new york and you don't need to out yourself or whatever city you're in if you go to uh you know you have women within the city that you live that you that you see that you could call up and be like hey let's go to swing club that know you're married and keep it cool yeah or if like you and i were friends and you wanted to do experiment and you wanted to see, you know, as long as I show up with you, that's fine. Once we get inside,
Starting point is 00:36:36 we could go our separate ways. Right. So that's how you've experienced it. You've brought women that you were sleeping with or that we're curious to go. How many people know about this part of your life? Like, you know, I think a lot of times guys are more open with, you know, men that they know, like, you know, people that you mean a bit, like, does any, is this like very secretive that all the stuff that you do or do any, does anybody know in your life about this? No. Now, there's a, it's, it's very secretive from that standpoint. And there's, only there's only a handful of people that, I mean, I've told you more in the time we've been talking and because it's anonymous than I've ever told anyone.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Right, of course. That's why I do it, Anonymous. That's what people do. But it feels good. It feels good telling you this. That's what people say. I have a lot of, and that's why I do it anonymous. I mean, to me, I find regular people fascinating.
Starting point is 00:37:23 And I think these kind of things that people do happen all the time. But nobody gets, is able to talk about it because everyone, like I said, is so judgmental. People take sex very seriously. Personally, I think it's like people that are judgmental. They're just jealous they wish they were doing that. You know what I mean? They just can't sort of release that in themselves. But, you know, I figure that if I do it anonymously, that's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:45 everyone would call up and be honest. And people feel like you do. Like, you know, there's a lot of like bisexual men that have been, you know, leading by lives. And they feel really great to sort of dump it and explain it. Some people, I think they like to brag about it. It's something that they do that they love and getting on. air and letting people know is like a great experience for them.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Right. Well, and would you be surprised if I told you even having this conversation for me as a turn on? No. I mean, nobody else has said it, but like, you know, I want, I've never had anybody. I mean, I did have one guy actually who I never talked to my guests ahead of time, like beforehand, like they'll say. But a lot of them always ask me to and they ask me personal questions. And I like to do most of the talk.
Starting point is 00:38:27 And like I like to meet someone first time on air. I'm recording it. that's the best way to get the best conversation. You know, how else am I going to ask you questions if I know everything about you? You know, I like to not know anything. Once in a while I'll get a guy that will really try and get me on a call before. And very early on doing my podcast. And I know a lot of like big comedians who sort of taught me to do this.
Starting point is 00:38:48 And very early on, I got a guy who wanted me to get on. And I could tell he was like horny and he was going to jerk off. And I thought, oh, this will be a great podcast. But he was like, I need to talk to you first. And I said, okay, I won't tape you. And I'm not a bullshitter. I would never back someone to a corner or say I'm not taping someone and tape them. So of course I didn't tape him.
Starting point is 00:39:06 I got on a call and he was totally jerking off the whole time. And I was so pissed. My friends like Kathy, you can't ever do that. Like you only do stuff on air. And I thought that would have been a great call to have gotten on. I shouldn't, I should have told him like I could only talk to you if I taped it.
Starting point is 00:39:19 I would love to have, would have loved to have that guy. And that was the only one that, you know, I knew was sort of horny when he was talking to me or turned on. I, a lot of times, to be honest, after I do these calls and I've talked about this, I get emails from guys afterwards.
Starting point is 00:39:34 A lot of times they'll send me a picture and be like, hey, do you want to meet up for coffee? I get asked out a lot. I never would go out with anyone. I'm anonymous too. Half of my friends don't even know that I do this. I use a fake name. Just because, like, look,
Starting point is 00:39:48 if you went to my podcast and you look at the names of my episodes, you just think it's some dirty sex show. I just like talking about sex. I think it's really interesting. I think, like I said, what people do, is interesting. I don't take it that seriously. I think sex is very healthy. You know, if you're not
Starting point is 00:40:04 fucking children or, and I don't even care if you fuck goats. Like, I don't know. Like I don't, but, you know, as long as it's not illegal. And it's, it's interesting and it's fine. And so I like to talk about just strictly because nobody else will. But I talk about it not in a dirty way. It's like, to me, it's just interesting if I was talking about to any other topic, you know, but I think if you look at my show, it looks like kind of dirty and people would judge me. So I don't really let anybody know most people in my life know that I do it because they wouldn't listen and they just go by the titles. But if you really listen to what I talk about, it's like really interesting, all of them, you know. Right. I totally agree.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Regular. This is what real people do. Like that's what I say all the time. Like you're sitting in restaurants, you're walking down the street, you go to a family function. There's somebody in your, you know, radius that's doing the same stuff. Like, you know, and doing and living this life, but just people can't talk about it. But it's real shit and it's really interesting to me. know, but no, I have never had someone say while we're talking, but that's interesting. But that's because I think you get off. That's the exhibitionist in you. Like you get off on sort of talking about your sexuality and what you do.
Starting point is 00:41:14 That's what turns you on. Very much so. Right. Right. It doesn't turn me on to talk to other people, but I think it's interesting that it does for you. Like, that's how you're wired, you know? So really, you know, the internet.
Starting point is 00:41:29 and online and adult friend finders is great for you because your insatiable appetite I mean you could really fill yourself up with a lot of different stuff. I mean, it's easy for you. It's not like it's one thing that turns you on and it's hard to find. You're pretty open to a lot of different things.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Right. So that's great for you. I mean, that whole thing, like when I talk about the whole cleanup service, like do you feel like if you drop dead tomorrow and, you know, by accident, you didn't have time to, you know, like tidy stuff up. Is there a trail
Starting point is 00:42:00 that you've left behind that your wife would be able to find? Only if somebody got on my computer and, you know, saw, you know, the cookies and the trail of, you know, where I visited websites. I clean out the browser every once in a while and I clean the cash out
Starting point is 00:42:16 but only because for obvious reasons for a lot of things. But no, I don't think that anybody's going to there would not be any, all of a sudden, any great secrets revealed. You have no babies out there with anyone. Not that I'm aware of, no.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Right. Do you use condoms with these women? Yes. And the transvestites that you've been with? Yes, absolutely. Right. And did I ask you whether, I know you said you've used your nose? Well, that's for, that's for sex now for oral, no.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Right. But can you get anything for oral? Actually, I had a guy on a sex addict on the one I aired last night, this guy that was addicted to oral. He, I mean, addicted to prostitute. He actually said he got gone. And he always used condoms with the hookers that he was picking up. He was like a street prostitute guy.
Starting point is 00:43:03 And he got gone away up. Yeah, he said that he got it. The doctor said he got it from oral because he never. And I don't know. And you can. You can? Oh, yeah, you can. And see, that's the danger of doing street stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Right. And that sort of thing. And if I met somebody, as I was saying at a bar and we went back to her room or my room, then I would wear a condom while I received oral from her. Oh, really? If it's the first time, yeah, probably. Uh-huh. Most of that time, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Uh, the difference is is that if you perform oral on her, unless you use a female condom or some other dent device, it's really difficult to do. And that kind of kills the moment, if you know what I mean. Yeah, totally. I mean, for both people, right? But how do you, but can you get oral? from going down on a girl or is it you can I mean you could get kind of gonorrhea I mean from
Starting point is 00:44:01 going down on a girl sure in your mouth you get it in your mouth gonorrhea in your mouth you can you can get that and several other STDs yes yeah it's crazy um so you're always you always use like hardcore protection even with low jobs yes do you meet a lot of women that you hook up with from adult friend finder uh only a few it's uh I think there's a lot of really fake people on that site. So it's the same like Craigslist. They like to talk. They like to email. They like to cam.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Some do, some don't. There's a lot of women out there that really, really just like to watch guys. I probably have 10 or 12 that view my profile that are in my so-called hot list and stuff. You know, I'll email them when I'm going on cam or I'll notice that they'll come on and they really enjoy it. sometimes they'll I am you. Most of the times they're not I'm in you because they're masturbating or watching while they watch you
Starting point is 00:45:05 yeah. Right, right. There's a lot of women out there that like to watch a guy jerk off. Listen, I'm sure there's a lot of women out there that like a lot of different things. Unfortunately, I don't get a lot of women on my show. I always sort of, when I do my intros, beg for women to call in. It's mostly men because I advertise
Starting point is 00:45:21 on Craigslist. The only women that have called in a listeners. But it's mostly men. When does your show on? How do I find your show? Oh, I'll send you a link. It's on iTunes and Stitcher.
Starting point is 00:45:34 So, you know, if you have a MacBook or if you have an iPhone, you have a podcast app on them on there and you just put in strictly anonymous. That's the name of the podcast. And you'll see, you know, my podcast there. If you don't have that, you could just go on stitcher.com and it's there as well. Perfect. I want to hear the shows. Yeah, there's a lot of really interesting stuff on there.
Starting point is 00:45:58 I mean, I've talked to men that are into all kinds of things. I would love to do a show with you and a female caller. Yeah, I wish. That would be interesting. Yeah, if you ever come in contact with any women or know any women that you think would be great on the caller, would be interested in calling in. I love to have women. My male, I have a lot of listeners.
Starting point is 00:46:21 You know, a couple of them email me all the time and give me their two cents. And they always were like, oh, get, you know, more women. And for me, because I don't like anyone to know what I'm doing, I don't solicit people on like any of my Facebook or any of that shit, you know, on my social media stuff because, you know, so the reason why I went on Craigslist, I always wanted a podcast and I wanted to help people with their problems. And I just like to talk to people.
Starting point is 00:46:41 And I like to sort of peel the layers back on all different kinds of things. So I knew that that's what I wanted to do with my show. And the only reason why I went on Craigslist is because I didn't know where else to sort of advertise to look for colors. And I went into the personal section. And it was like hitting. gold, you know, the shit that I got from there, like, and the people that wrote in and the problems, and it was just like everything and anything, but mostly men, you know, and because
Starting point is 00:47:02 that was so great and that was like the niche. And these guys, actually, what I found, what I think is really cool is like, men don't have people to talk about. Like, some of the guys that call up with these problems and most of the times they're sexual, but they don't have anyone to really talk to about it. So they have a need and they call in and I can't tell you how many times I've heard people say like, oh, thank you. Like, you really help me. I mean, this is a different situation because you're just, you know, what I hear from people like you that are spilling their secret lives is that it's really a nice release to get it out there and just talk about it. But the people that call in that have problems, the guys, they really find help.
Starting point is 00:47:34 And I find that like it's really good that my niche is men because they need it more and they need an outlet and I get a lot of guys. But I would love to have women on because I have a lot of male listeners and they want to hear those stories. I had a really great girl on recently who was a listener who was very open sexually and did a lot of different things. And it was great to talk to her because I, don't get a lot of those women on.
Starting point is 00:47:54 It's mostly men, but it's still interesting. I mean, it never amazes me that there's always something new or to talk about or a guy that's into something different, you know, that happens on a call. Right. You know. So anything else you want to know about me on this particular episode? No. I mean, you know, if you want to, like, you know, if you start to, I mean, I have repeat
Starting point is 00:48:14 callers. Once you listen to my podcast, you'll see people I do, you know, end of the year sort of wrap up so where are they now. And I also do people call in every couple. weeks with like updates. If you ever cross that line and you're full on with a guy and you want to call up and talk about it, you know, I'll have you back on the show. If you could find a girl, a woman that you meet on the road or how, you know, that you'd want to do like a three-way conversation. I could always do that and that would be very interesting. And if I get a woman on
Starting point is 00:48:44 then wants another man on, you know, maybe we'll have you on to, I don't know if give her advice, whatever it is, but you know. That would be great. Okay. All right. All right. Thanks so much for calling in Walker. All right. Thank you, Kathy. I'll let you know when I air your podcast. It'll be airing soon this week probably. That would be great.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Okay, great. I'll keep you posted. All right. Thanks, Kathy. Bye. Bye. Bye, bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book,
Starting point is 00:49:08 it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not going to be out until August 20. but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories.
Starting point is 00:49:42 And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person and I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format, and finally the audiobook is available. coming out August 25th, but you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint, okay? There's no way
Starting point is 00:50:32 you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other, and that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com.
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