Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 085 - Strike Out Mike has Been Striking Out on Adult Friend Finder For Years
Episode Date: August 3, 2015Strike Out Mike has been striking out on AFF for years but he calls in to discuss about what he actually gets out of the site and why he keeps using it. He also talks about his past relationship..., his Tinder hook ups, dirty sex within relationships, jizzing on girls faces, his experiences at multilpe swingers clubs, condom usage and more. Tune in for the details. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Today I have a guy and I didn't know what I was going to, I never know what I'm going
to title my podcast because most of the time when I get people, I don't know anything about
them. I just get on a call with a total stranger and I just interview them like Barbara
Walter style. And I get a podcast out of it.
I figure out the title. So while I was talking to him, I decided to call him strikeout Mike,
and that's what I'm going to title at Stakeout Mike. And I call him Stakeout Mike because I met
Strikeout Mike on Adult Friend Finder. And he never has ever hooked up with anyone, even though he's
been on that website for a really long time. I met him on Adult Friend Finder. He didn't strike out with me.
He got my number and we talked, but it was very G-rated. We have, we talked about all kinds of things,
his relationships, his sexual experiences, why he's on Adult Friend Finder, what he does,
even though he doesn't hook up with people.
In real life, he has like virtual sex with people, and we talk about that.
And it's really interesting.
But I call him Strikeout Mike because, like I said, he never has ever hooked up with a woman in
real life from Adult Friend Finder.
And that's what I find across the board, I got to say, from that website, that nobody
really ever meets the women in person.
But you know where this guy doesn't?
Strikeout is on Tinder.
He fucks a lot of girls on Tinder, and we talk about that too.
So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with strike out.
Mike.
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Hey Michael, you're on the Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy.
How are you?
Good. How are you?
I'm good.
So, you know, I typically get my callers from either Craigslist or adult friend finders,
and I never know anything about my adult friend finder people because you, I mean,
a lot of people have a lot of stuff on their profile, but you didn't really have anything.
I think you're just looking for chicks to bang on there as far as I'm concerned with what I saw.
How, like, so I just need like your stats.
First of all, how old are you?
You're in your 30s, I remember?
Mid-30s, yeah, 34.
Right.
And what do you want adult friend-freners looking for?
Are you married, single?
I think it said you were single.
So you're not single.
What am I looking for?
You know, it varies.
Sometimes you just look for that very casual conversation that could lead to something.
And sometimes you want to find that extremely horny chick that wants to bang.
Right.
And how many times have you found that extremely horny chick that just wants to be?
Um, zero.
That's so sad.
I'm sure lots of guys were hanging on your answer right there.
Zero times, right?
Well, I mean, it's like you can find that one girl that will like, you know, she seems rather legit.
You've got past the stage where, you know, you know, it's no longer a bot because she's actually giving you humorous answers.
And then all of a sudden it's like, oh, it's 1130.
Don't bring fruit to the movies.
Oh.
Don't bring Italian food to the movies.
Right.
Because you're expecting her to come on your place.
to the movies. Don't bring anything to
sex even or something. Buy popcorn
or whatever they have at the movies. That's it.
That's all you're allowed to eat. I bring water
to the movies. Is that bad? I don't think that that's
bad. Oh, right. Something more than
right. Exactly. Of course.
Like, listen, you know, this is
the time where like
there's tons of dating websites. That's where everybody
goes to hook up, right? From
okay, give it to match.com to Tinder. I think
you mentioned something about Tinder. You know, all those
places people could hook up and, you know, maybe
get dates out of it or have some casual
conversation that maybe won't lead to sex because those websites aren't strictly like,
oh, we're just looking for a booty call.
But I feel like adult friend finder is much more to the point.
I feel like if you meet somebody on there, you would expect it to go more farther than I
have to get up for work, right?
Like, what is a girl doing on there if she's not looking for some kind of, you know,
SEX, right?
Yeah, well, I mean, you would assume that by signing on there, there's a mild vetting
just in your, like, ability to sign.
up. You know, it's like, hey, I'm, I'm looking to either potentially get laid or, you know,
like, like your screen name. At least you put it out there, like, what's going on.
Totally.
You know, other people put it out there, like, you know, hey, and I'm married and I'm just
looking for erotic chat, you know, like, at least they put out there.
Yeah, right? Yeah, right. They explain, yeah. That's why.
But they put the vet out there. And some people are like, there's no bet. I mean, I,
I'm one of them.
I don't put a shit ton out there.
But I'll get to the point real quick.
Yeah, what is the point?
What is the ton of shit that you don't put out there?
That you could put out there on my show because I don't know who the hell you are.
You're not really Michael.
I don't know where you live, nor do I care.
What, you know, I always ask people to be honest about is like the shit that they do
and the stuff that they do behind closed doors or like some people leave, like live a secret life.
You know, I've had all kinds of people on my show.
I don't know if you checked out the titles of my podcast.
Yeah, I mean, I listen to a few of them
But it's like, you know
I mean, what is the shit that I want to do?
You know, or that you do.
Call it the flavor of the month, you know?
It's, you know, I mean, I think the problem in some of the vetting is you,
if you're out there just to also have a little fun,
you might narrow yourself because, you know, you're on AFF
and sometimes you read some of those profiles, you know, shit, I'm not into that.
Right.
And then the next day you wake up and you got a little tingle in your panties and you're like, ooh, you made me into that today.
Right.
You never know.
So, you know, I mean, it's, you know, call it an erotic story that's like happening in front of you, you know.
Choose your own adventure style shit.
But it's, I mean, I'm probably, you know, just because of my experience, I'm not due to AFF by any means.
I've taken it all over the country.
Oh, interesting.
And so it's nothing where I, sorry, that's my dog in the background.
I don't hear it.
It's nothing.
Oh, that's good.
It's nothing where I expect physical action anymore,
only because it doesn't happen very often in my world.
Well, you said zero times.
You said zero times.
Zero.
Zero.
I'm sure you get laid more often on Match.com.
Tinder, Bumble.
Tinder.
Those ones, right?
A friend was asking me about Tinder the other day,
because he just wants to just straight up hookup.
He's like, he's a divorced person and he's really better.
He's like, I just want, I'm like, I think Tinder is like the quick thing, right?
That's like a fast forward to sex, right?
I mean, you know, not to disclose, well, I'll disclose a shit tonne because it doesn't matter.
Yeah.
You know, I mean, I'll sit at a bar and literally grab a beer, swipe right until I ran out of lights
and just see what happens.
I mean,
call it like
the ultimate style of fishing,
but it's like,
let's see what happens.
Right.
And what happens on Tinder?
I don't know.
I've never done.
Oh, I mean, you'll get,
so it's like, you know,
it's swipe right,
swipe left,
and it's like,
who gives a shit about swiping left?
I mean,
it's not like you're there to go,
oh,
I got to be super discerning
about getting my dick wet.
Mm-hmm.
Who cares?
You know,
and your goal is to get laid.
Right.
You're not looking for a golf box.
Right.
Well, it's like, why be discerning on who you like in the beginning,
figure out who likes you back, and then you can cut the ass.
Right.
So you just go for quantity first, and then you could narrow it down if you've got that quantity to quality.
It's kind of smart.
I mean.
And in the process, although some of those girls that you would never really date or they're not that great,
you can maybe fuck up and it's okay.
Well, I mean, but you have to look at.
from the other side is, you know, you don't control Tinder when you're on Tinder.
So everyone else has their own strategy.
So as much as you want to assume that the girl that you're connected with on Tinder is only talking to you,
you'd be lying to yourself.
Of course.
So we'll give this shit.
I was going to say, do you really care?
I mean, please.
Right.
So go for the quantity and then go, all right, well, this one doesn't look that horrible in our picture.
We all know she's lying, but she doesn't look that horrible.
Right.
And so how many times have you gone, like, so the girls just shows up, like, that night, and then you just bang her.
I have friends that that's happened to.
I mean, I think that's pretty far for the course.
It's very par for the course.
I mean, I've had the under 25 minutes from first contact to in cyber.
Right.
And they're, and meaning cyber sex, 25 minutes, you're doing it, or in person?
No.
intercourse.
In person.
So 25 minutes you swiped.
She responded.
She met you.
But this is out in bars, right?
Like this is drinking at night.
Yeah.
I mean, we were both out.
And conveniently, an apartment was in between.
Mm-hmm.
So, yeah, 25 minutes.
Yeah.
I mean, that alcohol really helps all that situations.
Take alcohol, put it in people, and then give them something like Tinder when you're
out and about.
I mean, come on.
It's just like tons of people are getting so much action.
I feel bad.
I'm 40.
So I'm way older than you.
And I grew up in a very different generation.
And I just feel sorry for like my guy friends that around my age or like a little bit older who have been there done that.
And they just don't have that energy.
And they're not even that young anymore.
And they just missed out on all this crazy shit that goes down.
You know, I don't know.
I mean, I was kind of slutty when I was younger.
I don't know what I would have done with all this stuff now.
Now I'm not slutty at all.
And I don't like send pictures of my tits and stuff to guys.
I don't know.
But I don't know what I would be doing.
if I was younger with all this shit that people could do.
I mean, it's crazy, you know.
Yeah, but what's crazy is, you know, what's crazy is, so you read these, like,
so you have Tinder out there, which is like late Gen X, early Gen Y.
And then you have this high school generation, which, you know,
is typically the focus of, like, fats in America.
And they're actually having less sex than your generation and my generation.
Are you serious?
I don't believe that.
I was fucking blown.
I was like,
and it's like significant.
It's not like 1 or 0.1%
it's like 5% or more.
I'm like,
you're fucking kidding me?
You know who's having all the sex
is the really old people?
The biggest.
No, really, I'm really serious.
The biggest rate of STDs
is in this one old age community
down in Florida.
They're all getting massive STDs.
They have like a whole code.
Like if their garage is up,
that means that they're open for action
and they're all fucking each other
and it's like rampant STDs.
no, I swear to God, I think Howard Stern
were talking about it. It's like all over the news.
That's pretty awesome, actually.
They're the ones having all the sex.
So the young kids aren't having it.
But, okay, back to you though, right?
So you're on Adult Friend Finder,
and when you say you've taken it all over the country,
so you've obviously, like, moved around
and your life is what you mean by that, and you've just like...
Yeah, I mean, I've been in the Midwest.
I've been on the right coast, been on the left coast.
I've been, you know, down south and, you know, a little up north.
So it's like I've seen...
one, the evolution of adult trend finder, which is good and bad, but also just, you know, you
obviously get your different populations of people on there, and then you notice, you notice
different fetishes around the U.S.
Oh, really?
And do you span populations because, yeah, I mean, you know, you go to the West Coast,
and it's a little more fetish involved in just a natural person as opposed to, you know,
Midwest. Oh, really? Interesting.
Maybe because more freaky people go
move to cities. Or anal shows up a lot more,
you know, stuff like that.
More anal on the West Coast? Is that what you said?
Oh, of course.
It shows up more in
acceptable, you know, it's like
you fill out your personal information.
Mm-hmm.
And, yeah, I'd say there's
far more anal happening on the West Coast
than I think anywhere else in the U.S.
Let me ask you this. Do you get hit on
Well, first of all, are you by or are you totally straight?
I'm totally straight.
Oh, my God, but you totally hesitated on that answer.
You were, I mean, you're positive?
Yeah, I'm 100%.
I get questioned all the time.
Well, no, you took a long to you.
So like, oh, I'm totally straight.
It sounded like you were going to be like, I kind of, you know, I'm straight, but I'm kind of curious.
Well, I mean, I've been with another dude naked in the same room.
room so it's like you sit there and you go well yeah but that's called where does that fall in our world
but did you cross swords did you cross swords did you cross swords no no we didn't we didn't touch sword
we didn't sword fight okay so so you had a threesome with another guy uh it was like a foursome
how many guys how many girls uh two guys two girls right and was that something that you hooked up
with on like adult friend or is that was like something you did with your girlfriends or just
drunken orgy?
I asked a stripper to fuck me and she agreed.
Okay, so you're at the strip club.
You're putting somebody down her panties and he's like, can you fuck me?
And she said, okay, like, and did you go in the back room and fuck her for cash or did
you take her home afterwards?
No, so like I said that it's at like midnight at the strip club and I was like, hey,
here's my number.
We go home at like 2.30 and she texts me and she's like, hey, I want to take you up
on your offer.
Because you asked her at while she was dancing for you if she'd fuck you?
Yeah.
Okay.
And so she...
No money.
changed.
Trust me, a lot of my
guy friends have had that happen.
It's not that difficult.
Fucking crazy.
Yeah, so wait, so she comes back
when, how did the three other people show?
How did all the other people, do the two other people show up?
I was with my buddy.
And she took a girl home with her
because she knew I was with my buddy.
Right, so she brought somebody over for your friend.
Right.
And then you all fucked in the same room, but did you guys
switch girls?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
No money, no presents.
Did you ever see those girls again?
No money, no presents, nothing.
Right.
Did you ever see those girls again?
The stripper that I knew text me all the time,
just text me a picture from the back room all the time.
Oh, really?
Like just of girls changing and girls naked and stuff like that, you mean?
Yeah.
But you've never had sex with her again.
Exactly.
How come?
Because we live 3,800 miles.
away from each other. Oh, okay, you were on
vacay or something like that. Like, you were in Vegas
or something? Okay.
So what's your deal? Have you ever had, like, a
long-term relationship or you ever been married?
I was engaged
once. How long were you
with that girl for, and how long were you engaged for?
Engaged for
seven months
exactly to the day. How long
were you guys dating before you got engaged?
Nine, ten months.
Really? And so what broke
it? Like, how come it went, like,
happened? Um, I, if you can find out, I'd love to know. Seriously, I, I was out on a meeting
and, uh, came home to a packed up house. Okay. How do you not know what happened? I mean, there's got,
I mean, I'm fucking dead seriously. Okay, either you're the dumbest guy ever met. I mean, a lot of guys
don't like, don't sort of listen to what girls say. So sometimes they don't get it by the time
a girl's had enough. Like, you know, a lot of times she's been saying shit and the
guy's not kind of listening and he doesn't really take it that seriously.
But most of the time a woman lets you know that she's unhappy for a while before she packs
up and leaves.
So, I mean, are you that dense or like, did she really, like, I mean, maybe she was murdered?
Did you call the police?
I mean, what happened?
I mean, in my honest, to God opinion, I think she met someone in just fucking bail.
You think that's what happened with her, that she met someone in bail?
Yeah.
Okay.
No, I mean, because 24 hours earlier, we were having a great sex.
Okay.
Well, was she, like, a little commitment-phobic?
Like, was she freaking out a little bit that you guys were, like, getting married?
I think we were both freaking out a little bit.
Okay.
How do you know that?
You guys had discussions about it?
Yeah, well, that, and, I mean, we went to therapy, and, you know, we talked through some shit,
and we could both tell that there's, like, a little, oh, fuck in each other's voice.
Right.
Okay.
And so why were you going to therapy?
Were you guys having problems?
Listen, I'm very into therapy, and I love it.
I think that that's great.
But, like, were you going because you guys were, like, open to it.
And you thought, oh, this is, like, we should do this with our eyes totally open.
Or were you going because you guys had problems in your relationship?
Yeah, I mean, we had problems.
We weren't exactly the nicest to each other.
And I'm not saying, like, they didn't beat each other, but by no means what I ever do that.
But we're always the kindness with words and it was mutual.
All right.
You know?
But did you mean that way?
Like were you both sort of always like kind of rude to each other?
Or did that just happen over time?
No, it was, it was from moment one.
So it was almost common course in the relationship.
And maybe that's what you guys liked at first.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, there's the, you know, there was the attraction to the, you know, it's kind of a bitch.
Yeah, that's barring.
Right.
She could, she would, like, you're probably a feisty dude.
and she like stood up to you and you put me in my place yeah and you dug it and she probably
likes she's probably a girl who kind of has that in her so she probably liked that she could like
lash out on you and you were still cool and you could turn that into like a flirtation as opposed to
like you know someone being super sensitive to it right exactly i could see how that works listen
i'm a feisty girl and i have the fight in me and i i kind of like to fight it's why i have like i have a lot
of girlfriends but i like to have guy friends because i can see how that works because i
just be really mean to them and they're like cool with it you know what I mean I can let go of that
part of my personality because if I do that to girls they're like freak out and start to cry but guys
you know are different so it's cool and I definitely like to let that loose with my guy friends and I
need guy friends for that part of my personality but do I want to be that way with guys that I date
that I want to be romantic probably not so much though there's always chemistry though right but
there always is chemistry with that person though I get
why it's kind of confusing.
Do you know what I mean? And, you know, I don't know.
Like, because I have a guy that I work out with at the gym right now, and we're very much
that way with each other. And I'm always like, I would never fucking date you.
I mean, he's not available, but like, because we fight all the time.
And he seems to think that, like, he has friends that have that relationship and it works
for them. Though I don't think that that could be, or that should be the way that it is.
You don't want to be with the person that you're like, shut the fuck up.
Well, the other side of it, you know, I call it a few years of experiences, it usually leads to pretty good sex.
Right.
You know, it's never missionary style.
It's never...
But is it like hate fucking?
It's fucking, you know, toys.
It's, you know, everything else when you're sitting there and you, you know, it's...
you know, it blows your mind and you wake up with a grin on your face and you roll over and you see what you did.
And you're like, holy shit.
Right.
I'm allowed in this world, actually.
Uh-huh.
And you're okay with that sort of sparring that you have with that girl.
Like, you're fine with it to be, like, are you still romantic with them, too?
I mean, this was the first one that I'd taken to a level.
Mm-hmm.
And it, you know, once we got engaged, it did seem to get a little skewed.
Because you're like, you know, when you're dating, it's like, all right, yeah, you know.
But then you're like, shit.
This is my future wife.
So I really want to be like.
Climbing on her face?
Clamping her nipples, slapping around and coming on our face there.
Oh, my God, yes.
You should have never got engaged.
You ruined your whole relationship.
That's probably what happened.
You guys just got that in your head.
And I could totally understand that.
Honestly, I really can.
I'm like never been married, never been interested in being married, not since I'm five years old.
I just was not that girl that had that dream.
I was like the antithesis of that.
So, and I, but I believe in commitment and relationships and long term commitments and stuff.
But I totally think I would be one of those weirdos that if it got put in my head that this is now you're getting married,
you know, that it might fuck things up and make it a little bit weird, you know, that you start to
like this is supposed to be different when I don't think that it should be you know
but I can understand getting that in your head and then making it mess things up right
which is what happened and you guys probably had a good thing I mean we had a great
physical relationship but did you have a good friendship did you have a good friendship
did you have a good friendship uh I'm hard to not be friends with and I don't say that like a
a egotistical way. It's like I can
get along with just about everyone.
Uh-huh. And she's
probably the same way. So it's like
our friendship was good. We could
get deep and talk about shit
with each other.
But it wasn't
like, oh my God, it's my best friend because
if it was,
you know, I guess I looked at and go, would I
let her walk out of the life that fast?
Well, she just disappeared, right?
I mean, she packed up her shit and left.
I mean, were you going to go running after?
her is that your style?
I mean, did you?
No.
Right.
I mean, but sometimes a guy won't run after someone,
not because they're not really into them,
but because they have too much ego or pride.
Do you know what I mean?
So you might not run after anyone,
no matter how much you love them,
but that just might not be your scene.
You know, it's not ego or pride,
but it's like if you're going to pack your shit up,
it's like, even if I ask you a question of why,
like, am I wasting my breath already?
Because you made a pretty solid-talking decision.
Right. So you never even called, like, did you ever ask her why?
I mean, we talked for like a month afterwards.
And did I ask? Yes. Did she answer? No.
How old were you guys when this all went down?
30.
So a couple, how long ago? How many years ago was that for you?
About four years ago.
Four years ago. So that was your longest relationship?
My most committed, probably not my longest.
Did you ever cheat on her?
Were you pretty monogamous with her?
Like, what's your deal when you're dating somebody?
Physically monogamous with her.
Well, what other kind of monogamous is there that you were?
I mean, if you get on Adult Friendfighter
and you have an erotic conversation with someone,
I feel that's cheating, but you're not being
whatever style monogamous that would be.
Right, okay.
So you were like you never screwed anyone in real life, but you had like online sex with people.
Yeah.
And I mean, you always have that booty girl back in the background that you can text and be like,
what would you do to me right now?
And then you get 17 paragraphs and you go masturbate in the bathroom, you know.
But you don't have to meet her.
Right.
You've seen her naked before and probably in her better days when she was in the 20s.
and close your eyes and have a good time.
Right.
And so sometimes you would hit people up like that.
So that's how you got your variety sort of needs met.
Right.
That's not so bad.
Did she ever catch you doing any of that stuff?
No.
I think if you get questioned or caught doing that, like, fuck.
Yeah.
So what?
Who cares?
At least I'm not out there in fucking rubbing tug or, you know, the glory hole.
Right.
Glory Hall.
Yeah, I'm fascinated by the glory hall.
I've had some guys on here on Craigslist that have, like, some people will put an
out on Craigslist and then they'll, like, sort of host a gloryhole session in a hotel room
and people will come in and they'll just put their dick in a hole and they'll get, like,
blown by other guys or something.
You know, I've heard stories like that.
I don't, listen, I don't like, like, the reason I do my show is, and I love to talk to people
all kinds of people because I think regular people are fascinating and you just never know you know
what anyone's doing and people are doing crazy shit you might call it weird other people call it crazy
some people will call it sick you know but people are doing shit sexually because everyone has you know
creative minds and everyone is into different things and people just you know sometimes go to different
extremes to get their rocks off and it's fascinating to me you know and I talk to these people for a
good 45 minutes so I you know and what I love about it is like if you just take that
person in conducts and you're like, oh my God, he goes to a hotel room and he puts his
dick in a hole and another guy blows him. You're like, he's so weird. But if you listen to the
whole 45 minutes, I mean, he's just like a regular person in every other area of his life, I'm
sure. I mean, you might be sitting next to a guy that does that one day, and you have no idea. You
know, regular people are doing crazy things all the time. I mean, you just don't know, which is
actually... I've experienced that in my life. It's like I, there's this guy I used to work with. I
I mean, normal dude, total extreme dad bod.
And one day he comes up to me, he's like, hey, are you into this?
And he shows me his phone of, like, total bondage ties.
Right.
I'm like, what?
And I'm figuring on me out.
I don't mind that shit at all.
Right.
And he's like, oh, yeah, I tie.
And so he's, like, tying up all these women for this porn company.
Oh, interesting.
Do you still have his number?
I would love to get him on my show.
I've had bondage guys before.
And this was just a guy you worked with?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, like you never know.
But it's like you wouldn't have, if you met him on the street,
I mean, like probably 98% of the people are calling here.
Yeah.
You wouldn't have known.
Exactly.
I could just tell.
I always ask, let me ask you this question.
I always ask my callers, like,
what do you rate yourself on a scale of one to 10?
Like, what are you on a scale of 1 to 10?
looks wise because I never see anybody.
I don't, you know, I don't care what people look like, but I just curious.
You know, every girl I mean says I'm pretty decent looking.
Uh-huh.
They think they landed something.
Uh-huh.
I don't think I'm that good.
I mean, I'm originally from the Midwest, so I think I'm like the Midwestern dude.
It's like a solid six, but.
I was going to say, decent, I would give a six.
Yeah.
You know, so it's like, I don't know, six, seven.
Okay.
So you're a six out of, but girls, you know, and so what kind of girls do you go after?
Do you go after tens or do you go after six?
Do you stay within your league?
Well, I mean, I'm on the East Coast now.
So the 10 in this world is, you know, a fashion model.
Uh-huh.
All right.
First of all, you probably need to know a few languages and have a few more digits in your paycheck than most people.
Yeah.
And so it's like 10 is just now you're unattainable.
anymore. So you start at like
eight and then nine's
pretty good. Right, right. Yeah, I mean, I'll go for
an eight. And then I'll laugh and sell for
a six or a seven.
Right. Will you fuck a four?
I mean, is it four a.m.?
Exactly. You may be, right?
Well, I mean,
if it's four a.m.
and there's enough
for curtail in my body.
And how, what do you do for a living?
self-employed
okay so is that why you travel all around
and do everything like you move around a lot
I mean exactly yeah right
and do you think maybe you're like a free spirit that maybe
like isn't ready to settle down just yet
maybe you were like trying to get married a little bit too soon in your life
uh I mean
the body but you know
it'd be it'd be great to have someone
that can just
hop on the bus with me
and let's let's do this together
Yeah.
But, you know, it's like, and maybe you've heard this too.
It's like, I don't need the kinky side of me.
It's probably going out of it a little.
It's not horrible, but like I said, I flat my fucking future wife in the face
and then go, oh, hey, by the way, you know, we've got to run to the country club today.
Right.
You know, there's certain senses that will never make sense.
in certain actions and I'm like yeah I don't want to do that so meaning like you have a side of
you that's like really into like really sort of kinky things right but you don't want to bring that
into your relationship well I don't feel if it has a place in a long-term loving relationship
and I'll use the word love right well what kind of things do you feel like you like when you
say like that you wouldn't want to do with the woman that you were in love with but you
would do with like a stripper or whatever a girl you're just big yeah yeah like what is the
stuff that you're so into that like you feel like you have to keep that separate from your you know
relationship I mean there's a kinky way to like tie someone up and like just fuck them and just not
kind of care about them.
And then there's the
probably what's called the erotic
Julia Roberts,
you know,
silk scarves. You're right.
You can have like stupid fun sex.
So to describe it in terms of like
an absolute term
is probably wrong more. It's like
less of the
quote unquote like degrading sex.
Totally. Uh-huh.
You know,
that's probably what I don't want to continue in a relationship.
Right.
That I give a shit about the woman.
Mm-hmm.
Totally.
Because, you know, I give a shit.
And it's like, I don't want to look at you as just a whole.
Right, exactly.
And if you have, like, I mean, you know, listen, I would assume that any relationship that you have is going to be more than just sex, right?
So they are more than just a whole.
And sometimes I think, like, if you have.
you have like these little hardcore fantasies like there's like you could jerk off and think about that
and be done with it and be fine you know what I mean do you have to live out everything that you have in
your mind I don't think so you know I think some things are actually better kept as a fantasy and some
things are great to fulfill like in real life you know but so it's not like those other things
you can't go in your mind to those other places and do those things like whether it's in your mind
or it's online with somebody whatever and keep it out of your relationship and still be okay it's not
like you're like not satisfying your needs right because well i think there's there's ways to
play out somebody gentler things in a common relationship you know like like choking's probably one
that probably plays both ways pretty hardcore right and you can not care about a girl and
tell she's i don't want to say blue in the face but but maybe blue in the face but maybe blue in the face
But maybe blowing the face.
Or you can, like, you know, have a girl you care about and just kind of do a little oxygen deprivation,
more or less get her off quicker.
Right, exactly.
Because her body's going to end endorphine overload, and, you know, she's going to come over and over and you're going to look like a hero.
There's some that you can probably turn on its face and play with, but, yeah, there's.
other ones it's like yeah I gotta throw those out they're they're totally
masturbatory fantasies right exactly and have you had like you said a little some of it
is like playing out in your life and you're not really into it that much like is it kind of
like been there done that like you've got a lot of it out of your system already yeah I mean I
think so you know it's um yeah I mean been to the sex club has been to the you know tried different
things. So what did you do at the
Swingers Club? Would you go with girls that you were with? Because I know
most of the time, I had a friend who worked in a
Swingers Club. I've lived in the city for like over
20 years, so I had friends that
worked in Swinger Clubs when I was younger.
And in the one in the city
you weren't allowed in as a guy. And I think that's how it is most places.
You couldn't get in as a guy without
a chick with you. You know, you have to go
in with a girl, right?
Yeah, you'd have to go with a girl.
From my experience,
10 times out of 10, which
is twice.
The girl would go off and get her jolly's off and then you'd go home and she'd tell you
this awesome thing to happen and you'd have sex all night.
Right, but where would you find the girls?
Was it girls you were dating?
You would bring with you to Strip?
Well, I mean, dating is probably a loose term.
Right, right.
Someone you were sleeping with, like a booty call girl.
Right, yeah.
You know, the flavor of the month.
Right, and they would be like, okay, I'll try that.
Like, I mean, they were like, in.
it was like a first time thing probably for them.
Yeah, I mean, you know, you might meet this girl that claims to be super bi,
probably more lesbian than by.
Right.
And she wants this guy to put on the Brady bunch of parents in trying to her parents.
And, you know, so you go to the Stringer's Club and she hooks up with this girl for 40 minutes
and you're stuck at this bar talking with all the other guys that are having girls hook up and hippie.
Right.
So did you ever go with a girl and like get to fuck?
other people when you were there?
No.
No.
Wow, you just listen to some of my episodes.
A lot of other people that call it and have a lot better times
in swears comes than you, too?
Well, I think the opportunities
were there.
Right.
But the girl usually breaks the ice.
Mm-hmm.
And she was always busy, so I'm sitting there going,
I guess I could try to break the ice and, you know, run off of this couple.
But what happens when she rolls out and unballs beeping someone
all of his life. Right. So you
never hooked up with anyone at a swings
a swinger's club when you went when you went
right and you went a bunch of times.
Right. You've struck it. You've like
strike out a lot.
You're on adult friend finder for many. I'm sorry.
I'm seeing a pattern here.
You're an adult friend finders
and you have a zero for zero hookup in real life
but I have some great conversations.
with people. Like, I have friends all over the country.
That's cool. I mean, listen. That's cool. Right.
And do you, are they like friends that you could maybe like have sex with or like sexed with and they send you pictures or just straight up friendship that you've gone?
I mean, there's a occasionally sex.
The more of them are just like, I think it's more fun to just kind of check on people and see what's going on their lives sexually.
and it's not necessarily like
sexting
when you hear about like
whether or not they're getting plowed
right
it's kind of
and then you hear about them getting plowed
right and then that turns you on
uh course
right and so
so it is kind of sexting
that's kind of sexting
yeah but I think sexing is like a
intimate conversation between two people
and reference to two people
right
two people and you know I think it's like the lawyer sexting yeah listen if some guy was
texting me and why I hear about like my like you know hookups with other guys and I know
that he's hard and jerking off to the stories I I would consider that sexting yeah okay
well then there you know right right do you so you did these women that you maybe never
someone did you meet them in real life ever do you exchange pictures you don't have a picture
up on your profile. A lot of people, I'm surprised.
They put flat out face shots of themselves and, you know, and stuff.
And I'm assuming they're real people.
I've done the dick fake. I've done the face shot.
I've done the body fake. It's like, you know, it's all kind of pointless in my eyes
from a guy's perspective because, you know, living within a proximity of where you live,
Mm-hmm.
You know, in the real world, it's mildly easy to date women.
Men have the ability to just kind of choose and choose and choose.
You get on Adult Friend Finder, and it's, like, the exact opposite.
Right.
Girls have the ability to just kind of pick and choose whatever flavor they want.
If you put a picture out there, sure, they get to judge you on that,
but they can't judge you on what the conversation is actually going to be like.
when you fucking meet.
Mm-hmm.
So I've been, you know, due to my strikeout average, I'm like, well, fuck it.
Probably go strike out, so I'll just go out for conversation.
Right.
So you took all the, right, less is more, less information.
I always told my friends on, like, their regular websites, dating websites, don't say a lot
on there.
Like, I, because every girl, when you read, like, me and my friends, and we would do
online dating, it's like one sentence, you'd be like, oh, no, look what he said right there,
forget it.
you know, if everything else is from me.
Right, yeah. I mean, you say a word wrong or a phrase.
Yeah, there's like one little sentence that a girl doesn't like, she'll throw you out.
So I would always tell my guy friends, you want to get girls on these any kind of websites.
Like, just put one sentence.
Like less is more.
You don't want to give them anything to be like, oh, I don't really like that either.
So fuck him, you know.
And everyone looks that way when you're looking online.
It's just like a weird, you know, it's very weird backwards way to date or get to know people.
So, yeah, I get.
It's a big year's ocean.
you know you're fishing for something you got to hook something but you got to you know pretend that
your bait actually matters right and so you do you eventually send a picture of your face after you've
talked to someone for a while yeah I mean you know I mean you know you're not in the norm in this
because you fish for another reason but yeah yeah I don't ever ask for pictures of people people I can't
tell you how many guys after I have these calls with them they send me their pick or they ask
me to go out and I'm like I don't do any of that stuff but um and I don't want to see them I like
my show to be totally anonymous like I always tell people like no one's gonna know who you are
not even me I don't like care and I think that people are more likely to be really open and
really honest if all of that exists you know I ask what people look like because it comes into play
like if someone is a really good looking or really ugly and they're talking about like it's hard
to get checks like well then maybe it's because they're not so good looking I don't know I mean you
know you just I don't know but most people though I gotta tell you most people rate themselves
a seven straight up I had one guy that rated himself like a 12 and he was insane and but most people
are like six or seven they say yeah I mean yeah I you know I thought it was funny I listened to a few
of your recordings earlier and one guy he was one of your early call-ins and then you
posted another ad under a free sum and you like replaying
called in.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, 007.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, he...
Yeah, double seven.
I'm sitting there going, you know,
and it's like,
in back on my mind,
I'm like, man,
is this dude trolling?
But then I'm like sitting there
going, well,
no offense.
I'd probably stumble across that shit
if it was sitting on AFF.
Like, yeah.
I'm not trolling.
But you're always on there
looking around, right?
And, you know.
Well, it's like you, you notice,
you notice the new girls.
You notice when the girls
close to you change their
pictures.
So it's like, I guess it's like naughty Facebook.
Right.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, it's very naughty Facebook.
There's a lot.
I've told a lot of guy friends of mine.
I'm like, you know, I think it's a really interesting place for people that want to be a voyeur because people put videos and people do a lot of stuff.
And maybe a lot of people on there, especially the women, are never going to meet you in real life.
And that's what I hear from most of the guys on adult friend finders.
You won't, most, none of them really get the women who want to hook up in real life.
But some of them get women that want to watch them on cam, jerk off, or that, you know, and they have that.
And that's like enough.
And that's kind of fun.
You know, that's what I hear from most of the guys.
Do you have that?
Do you ever broadcast yourself?
Like, you could broadcast yourself, like, on adult front fronters.
Like, and I know I've had callers who do that.
I mean, out of in the past, I'm super drunk.
Mm-hmm.
But not recently.
Just, I mean, honestly, more for professional reasons.
Right.
But then I look at it and I know
If I'm doing it for professional reasons
And I'm talking to a girl that's
35, maybe 40
She's probably
mildly professional like me
So why am I giving a fuck?
Right, that she's going to out you put
Right
Yeah, it's like, is she really going to out me
Because I could out her
Just as fast
Right, she doesn't want anyone in her office
Knowing that she's watching some guy jerk off
on a cam on adult friend finder either.
Right.
So now what's your deal now?
Like where are you at? Are you living where you're living for good?
Are you looking for a relationship?
Are you just totally looking to just hook up with girls
and adult friend runner and Tinder?
Like what's your deal?
I'm probably staying in the Northeast for the next three to five years.
Uh-huh.
recently found myself a pretty rad little relationship on Tinder.
Uh-huh.
And we're taking it at snail's face.
So you're kind of in a relationship now.
What?
You're kind of in a relationship now?
I would say kind of.
You know, I'll use the word kind of as well.
Like, maybe.
How long have you known her for?
Known or six months.
Right.
But like known.
You know, I mean, we've probably spent the first three months of our relationship, like, guiding each other on Tinder date.
Like, oh, you're going on with this person, you're doing this, you know, so it's.
And does she live?
Elementary.
Okay.
Does she live where you live?
We live close-ish to each other, yeah.
closest like 10 blocks away or in the same city or like you 60 miles away
like closest is for me in New York is like 20 blocks away
close is 10 blocks away and a long distance relationship is like across town
that's how I feel in New York yeah I'm not I'm not doing it
we're not in different boroughs so you're in the same borough
yeah okay so why and do you see each other often or when you say that it was like sort of slow
and you guys were just talking about other things in the beginning because you've known each other
for six months like were you guys actually hanging out in real life i mean well time for each
or once or twice each like set aside like hey we're going out and you guys have had sex right
was she one of your quickie tinder no like that's that's that's that's
That's how she got you.
This is a whole other episode about her.
But, no, I mean, she was not quick.
She was extraordinarily slow about it.
Third date rule-esque.
She what?
It was almost like a third date rule for her.
Okay, so she made you wait three dates,
and that's a really long time for you.
I thought you were going to tell me she waited like you wait like two months.
Three dates could have.
happened in two weeks.
Yeah, no, I'm, well, yeah, three days had happened in two weeks, but they didn't, you know,
it was like, shit cut coming up, and it was like three days happened in like nine weeks.
Mm-hmm.
You know what I mean?
It's like, you go grab a beer here in between, and it's like, that's not really a date.
Right.
Like, if they were legit dates, it was like nine-ish weeks from the point where we actually, like,
truly met.
Right.
Okay.
So when did it-
I don't want to say that's a long time, but that's,
a long time. No, it is a long time, but that's like on both of your, but that's not, because
she wasn't banging you, like, you obviously weren't pursuing her hardcore that you guys
were like having those real dates and really getting in close with each other, right? I think,
right? I mean.
It was mutual. Right. How do you know it was mutual? I mean,
sometimes the girl's waiting for the guy. Sometimes the girl's waiting for the guy to, you know,
set the page.
Well, I mean, I wasn't knocking her.
I mean, it's like every time I ask her out, she'd say yes,
but it's not like she was calling me on Monday going,
hey, what are you doing Wednesday night?
Right.
So it was a very mutual, slow agreement.
And then when did it start to get more serious
that you're, like, thinking maybe it is a kind of relationship?
I guess I don't know when it truly flipped a switch
eight weeks ago, this definite point in a relationship.
Right, so two months ago, you guys started seeing each other more.
Is that what happens?
I think there was more just like a understood mutual base in time and mistakes with other people and more monogamous talk.
Yeah, when you're, I don't know how, like you say you're dating someone when you guys are talking about dating other people.
Right?
Right.
That would mean, like, you're kind of friend.
Like, that's what friends would do.
I would do that with my guy friend.
and I don't know, am I dating someone
if I'm on a date with them and we're
asking each other about other people?
Like, I don't know, right?
This is a little weird?
Well, it's strange language that we've created
with all of this electronic dating
because, you know, it's called electronic dating
and, you know, it's not like electronic scene.
Mm-hmm.
And so you get tender, you get, you know, match,
you get Army, whatever, whatever you want to.
But you can go on multiple first dates a month.
But they're all dates.
No, I'm not talking about what you're doing.
I'm talking about your saying,
like you and this girl started to hang out six months ago.
And you guys were hanging out with each other.
She waited three times to sleep with you.
She eventually did.
But you guys were discussing.
And you said what changed in your relationship is you guys stopped discussing other people.
Now, I would assume that one, you know, two people.
don't normally go on dates with each other and talk about other people that they're dating,
you know, even if, as a woman, you always know when you first meet a guy, he's probably seeing
other people and maybe you're seeing other people, but you don't talk to each other about it,
really.
Maybe you guys chose to, and then like you said, you knew that it got more serious when you
guys stopped doing that, or you guys realized you liked each other, right?
Yeah, well, and that's probably it.
Like we probably crossed a threshold in conversation where we're like, okay, this is probably more serious.
And I haven't really anything else in fun.
And then, you know, it's like, you know, I'm a.
Right.
And she was probably happy to hear that.
You let her know that you were sort of interested in meeting other people anymore.
Right.
Right.
And then she wasn't either.
so now you guys are like kind of exclusive.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I mean,
there's an exclusivity to it.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And do you see each other more than once or twice a week or is that where you're at now,
like twice a week?
I mean,
just due to the craziness of the New York City lifestyle,
it's typically that.
Sometimes we'll cross paths midday, grab a luncher.
But you text every day, right?
And talk every day.
Oh, yeah, of course.
Right.
That's cool.
Something, you know.
There we go.
That's cool.
And how old is she?
A little bit older.
Well, how old are you and how old is she?
I'm 34.
She's, what, just a shy of 40.
She's 40?
Just a guy at 40.
Right, so she's like 39.
That's cool.
You like older girls?
I don't really discriminate.
And do you know, like, how she's.
ever been married or any or had kids or anything like that neither right that's cool i think that's great
don't fuck this up by like jizzing on her face or trying to choke choke her or getting engaged okay don't get
don't ask her to marry you what don't choke her don't tie her up unless it's with silk scarves
and then maybe she'll stay dating you and why don't you just give up on adult friend finder i mean
you know maybe just keep it for like your virtual stuff i think that that's fine
and in all honesty that's why i do it i mean it's like yeah you know i i say some pretty
lewd and whatever shit but i at this point on adult friend finder i don't think i'd meet me
one right you know and it's not and it's and i say this with all due respect her it's not because
of her it's more there's a there's a pretty awesome little fantasy in my head of
like, I just want to hear how dirty you can get with your words.
Right.
You know, it's like, I would like to see what the capabilities of some girl typies are.
Right.
And it's not like I want you to get like, you know, into like scattering at that really raunchy stuff.
But you can get pretty graphic about positions and stuff.
just in a bedroom.
Yeah, totally.
Right.
You like very dirty talk.
And sometimes, like, you can live out that fantasy online with people where it's pretty safe because women will probably do that with you there as opposed to meeting you in person.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, erotic story.
Right.
Yeah, that's not bad.
And I don't think, listen, I think when you're in a long-term relationship after a while, like, you could bring that stuff into, I think you could bring dirty talk into a relationship too.
eventually. I think you ease into things like that once the, you know, because in the beginning,
you could coast on chemistry and the newness and a lot of stuff without having to add a lot of things
because the sucks is so great always in the beginning. But then when it becomes like sort of mundane
and whatever, then you want to like sort of become more creative, right? And, and stop. And I think
what's great like about having a significant other is you could do like really dirty things with
them, but you don't have to feel dirty about yourself. You know what I mean? Because it's like it's sort of like
the cleanest way to be dirty is with
somebody that you really care about,
that you're really close with, and you don't feel like
you have to take like 10 showers afterwards, you know?
I mean, for me, that's the way
I like it. You know, you can just go to places.
You mean, I don't get to leave $500 on the
day morning or no? No,
you don't have to like,
you don't have to be like, what the fuck do we just?
You know, it could just be a cool thing.
If you're with somebody that you feel
comfortable with and you guys could go
to a place and you know that it's just like a fantasy
and you're both sort of creative and you're both
or into things.
So it's not to me like dirty for dirty sake, you know?
It's like, but dirty is fun.
And you could have that, like I said, in a relationship, I think, and in a loving
relationship, as long as you're both like cool and open-minded about it, but you're not,
like, I had a whole podcast about jizzing on the face because I think guys that like
to jizz on a girl's face secretly hate women.
I think it is very degrading.
And as much as I'm really open-minded into a lot of things, I was never into somebody
wants a jizz on my face or there was this guy that told me he wants to like to fuck girls in the ass and then put his dick in their mouth you know like stuff like that like that kind of degree yeah yeah yes ass to mouth yeah atm yeah that whole thing i'm just like oh like i don't i don't think that's like dirty fun that's like dirty dirty dirty so then what do you say about the girls that you know you meet and they're like oh yeah just just blow it on my face you never had a thing i mean i've met girls yeah first time ever ever
fucking old.
Yeah.
And they're like, hey, just blow on my face.
Yeah.
I mean, I think they like to be degraded.
It's the same as the girls I want you to choke the shit out of them.
I think that they like to be degraded.
That's like what turns them on.
Just like some girls want to be raped and they want to be taken by force.
You know, with something in them that that like makes them horny.
You know, for me, I never had the degrading thing.
Like, that never got me off.
So I didn't go down the degrading route.
Other things got me off, you know.
But I think some people that is it.
but I think that that's like a degrading thing.
You know, so those girls like to be degraded
and the guys that want to jizz on their faces like to degrade them.
That's what, you know, but I don't know that I'm right or wrong on that.
I just, I did a whole poll about it.
I did a jizz pull on my podcast because I wanted to know, like,
if that's what it means and who likes to jizz on girls' faces
and do girls want to be jizzed on their face?
Like, I don't know.
And do girls want, like, do you want to fuck a girl to ask them and make her eat your,
her shit?
I just think it's, there's something deeper to that to me.
you know and I never got into that that to me isn't dirty fun sex that to me is just like
sort of degrading stuff I think sex is so great and there's so many things you could do
but but but so let can I can we spend a few minutes of can I flip it on you sure so a guy can
obviously control a degradation of a woman by jizzing on her face or you know choking her out or
laughing her around.
Yeah, that's okay.
Little stuff like that's fine.
Women don't have
the ability to
do as much
to a man.
Well, no, she could pee on his face or she could
tie him up and whip him. I mean, I think that's what
Dominatrix are about.
I think some men like
to be degraded.
I totally agree.
But there's a difference
between pain jiz.
Right. Okay.
So, like, there's an orgasmic experience going on when that jizz is exploding from a penis.
And sure, her face is the receptacle, and I'll use degradation terms just to stay in tune.
Right.
But, you know, it's like if you're standing in the shower and you, you know, are pissing and all of a sudden girl walks in front of it, there's no degradation.
no no no listen
peeing could be done in very different
like sort of situations
yeah I'm talking about like
just like jizzing
you could jizz on some
a girl's belly it's very different than jizzing
on her face so yeah if a girl pees on your stomach
and that's what you like or on your dick and it's what you like
but it's if she pees in your mouth it makes you drink it
and you're gagging and you don't want to
that's kind of degrading but maybe some guys
would be into that and maybe some girls
would be into that too
so I think it can be flipped
you know but that's just people that are
into that for a reason.
Yeah. Is that what you're into?
A roller. All right. You don't have to roll with it.
I mean, you know, I've had girls that have, like, kind of beg for it.
I'm like...
Beg for what? I don't really give a shit where I shoot it.
You know, it's going to come out anyway, so, you know, if I got a landing pad for it, great,
if not.
Yeah, that's just a girl that, like, wants something really dirty.
And, like, I said, like, I think that, like, there's a little bit of degrade.
grading in that, but that just might be
like what turns around. Like we talk a lot
in this podcast about how like cheating sex
is like the hottest sex imaginable.
There's something about it, right? That just like
makes it 10,000 times ago. Like is that
terrible to say yeah, but is it the truth?
Yeah, you know. It's the greatest.
Right. I know. Unfortunately, right?
That's just the way that it goes. It's just like there's
something about the doing the
wrong thing that makes it so great. Right?
So probably for the people that are into the jizz
on the face for those girls like that
that like that guy coming
the face really gets them off. I'm not into it. And I, like I said, I don't know that I'm right by
saying it's a degrading thing, you know. That's what I think. That's my opinion. I'm opinionated.
I'm very opinionated. Am I totally right? I don't really know. I'm not a, I give unprofessional
advice that I'm not a psychologist because I like to just give my opinions and I don't need anything
to back it up. But I don't really know. I mean, that one I struggle with a little more. I mean,
you've been in, you've been in, you know, the New York City area for 20 years.
I've traveled the U.S. for 20 years.
Probably had sex for 18 of those.
And I would say, you know, amongst those flyover states and when you get towards the West Coast,
the flexibility of use of condoms and, you're going to get towards the west coast, the flexibility of use of condoms
and, you know, I mean, everything about sex changes as you go farther less.
In one side, if people use more condoms there than here?
Nobody uses condoms.
I'd say in the middle of the American don't use condoms.
Nobody uses condoms.
I'll tell you who uses condoms because I'm one of them.
And I have booty-call guys that have used condoms and they're the same way.
And the common bond between the people that use condoms and that don't, is they're fucking
hypochondriacs, okay?
hypochondriacs use condoms because they're so petrified of diseases.
Everybody else, if you don't have that fear of disease that's so crazy, you're going to
fuck without condoms. That's what everybody I know does. I know people with herpes that fuck
without condoms. I know people with HPV that fuck without condoms. I know people like across
the board. This is what I tell all my friends. Like you could fuck everyone without condoms,
but just so you know, they could have herpes. People don't care just because they're
fucking without a condom doesn't mean that they know that they're clean. And the
Only people that are really safe to me are people that are like hypochondriacs because I'm a hypochondriac and I keep it really safe.
Like I had a booty call guy for eight years that I slept with off and on, always in between boyfriends.
This is my one guy because I like to be with the same guy.
I don't like to sleep with strangers because I'm a girl.
We're wire different.
And I wouldn't let his dick touch my leg without a condom.
That's how safe I was.
I would say that I run into the word condom more.
in the northeast
than I have
everywhere else
right well you just have bad luck
you're striking out there too
you're just strike out Mike that's what I'm gonna
yeah exactly that's what I'm gonna call
the podcast strike out yeah I'm gonna call
no that's the title of podcast strike out
Mike okay
I know so many people
just fuck without condoms so if you're
only finding girls that are forcing you to use
condoms and you don't want to strike out
again
because there are so many people,
I can't even believe what goes down
because I am a hypochondriac.
My booty call for the eight years.
He was a total hypochondriac.
He would never fuck anyone without a condom either,
so it was great.
But, you know, I've been with other guys
who they don't want to
and most people do not.
And they do not care about pregnancy.
They don't care about anything.
They really don't.
And that's just the way that it goes.
Is that a fact?
Probably not.
This is another one where I'm just giving my opinion
and making a blanket statement
and probably statistic
sticks as I'm totally off but I'm just saying in the maybe I just know scumbags and and
crazy people you know my friends the people that I know most people I know they do not use condoms
like ever like never seriously wow you use condoms you know I you're right that's impressive
you I you know I be honest yes and yes and no right right so when so is it yes because the girl
requests it?
Like, why sometimes yes, why sometimes
no? Is it just the looks of the girl? Or is it like,
yeah, you use it sometimes because that girl says, hey, where's
the condom?
Yeah, I mean, exactly. So the truth
is you don't use condoms. You just
use them when the girl forces you
to use them.
I carry them.
Right, in case the girl requests
you to, it won't fuck you unless you
fuck her with a condom, right?
Right. So just so
you know, I wouldn't call you
a condom user, strike out
Mike.
You only use condoms when the other
Exactly, you only use condoms
when the other girl
when the girl wants to use
a condom, but you'll fuck a girl without a
condom, no questions asked, let me tell you, I can't tell you
how many girls have herpes and we'll
fuck you. And then I've got
to tell you the funny thing is I have two
girlfriends that have herpes and one of them would like
fuck guys without and then she would tell
them like down the line
and then she'd be like, oh my God, isn't it so great
he didn't even care.
And I'd be like, obviously he doesn't care because he has herpes or he's disgusting.
Like, who wouldn't be pissed off if you fucked him without a condom and told him you had herpes?
These guys that didn't care, obviously had herpes too.
I would do naughty things for that person that I can't say on a podcast.
Right.
But she would be like, oh my God, isn't it so great?
Like, I just told him I had herpes and this was the guy she fucked with that a condom.
And he didn't even care.
And I'd be like, okay, if you think that that makes him a nice guy, you're crazy.
Like, I could imagine maybe he has.
AIDS, that's why he doesn't care.
Who knows?
I mean, I keep pretty, I mean, the one thing I do do, my lot of they do do on your podcast.
Yeah, sure.
The one thing I stay on top of testing.
So it's not like I'm out there just, oh, yeah, I'm clean.
No, I am legitimately clean.
Probably the most painful thing that I've ever experienced.
for first time was that.
But how many STDs have you had?
How many what?
STDs have you had.
None.
Okay, you're lucky.
Have you ever gotten a girl pregnant?
Yes.
Right.
So that can happen too, so, but people don't care about any of those things.
Well, I didn't know that I got her pregnant.
She told you after, do you have a baby?
No.
I mean, we don't know.
Gruson, sorry, but she told me when she was coming home from playing her.
God.
Right.
She killed your baby.
And then she told you about it.
Yeah, exactly.
She's like, well, I took care of business.
Right, right, right.
Okay.
Right.
I mean, I'll be honest.
I was 17.
So I'm not saying it was the good decision because it's probably never the right thing to say.
But, you know, I'd have a 17-year-old right now.
It's a little scary.
Yeah, that's crazy.
That would be interesting.
Right.
Uh-huh.
You have a very different thing.
I probably wouldn't be calling into this, probably living in a trailer park somewhere in Oklahoma
worrying about the next tornado, you know.
Yeah, exactly.
You'd probably still be on an adult friend finder, though, for sure.
Because if you're still at you and you have all that wanderlust in you and all that dirty wind
and you weren't allowed to choke people for the past 70 years and get it out of your system,
you'd be like, I don't know, you'd be choking people in private.
You might be doing guys.
I mean, you'd have to, like, let loose some other way.
It's actually good that you have to have to.
that you have no babies and you've been single
and you've been able to sort of be yourself
and let yourself experience whatever.
It's okay.
I mean, strike out Mike.
It's like, you know, it's like a story, you know.
It's not bad.
I think that, I think that, you know,
I think it's good that you're kind of starting a relationship with somebody again.
I think it's, you know, you try to have that relationship with that girl.
And I think that it got messed up for weird reasons.
And I think it's hard when you don't.
get real closure in a situation that's always
hard sometimes you just don't get closure that's just
the way that it fucking is everyone's like oh I need closure
it's like sometimes you don't get it and that's just life
and so fucking deal with it well
but that's okay
a lot of my friends were like that they're like man you just
you need to know why and I'm like
I've gone through enough
of life at this point
and
but that does make it harder
I don't give a fuck
well you don't now but you probably
did then okay you probably did that
it is way harder
a bottle for a bit.
Totally.
It sucks without closure, but sometimes
closure is not a definite thing.
Sometimes you don't.
I've had relationships where I did not get closure
and it's the worst thing in the world.
But you get over it and that's just life
and you have to get closure on your own
and that's just like you move on, you know?
But I think that
that's always something tough to go through
and I see a lot of people,
a lot of people that don't typically
have long-term relationships that often
when they do and it goes awry.
They tend to sort of sometimes
stay away from relationships for a long time because they get really affected by it, you know.
So it's good that, like, you know, it's been four years since you've had, like, a long-term
relationship.
It's good that you're starting off with this girl.
I would hope that you start to see her more and go maybe a little, I mean, but maybe she's
on the same page.
You know what I mean?
That's what you both need, sort of to go with it very slowly.
But it's good that you guys are not talking about other people with each other and you're now,
like, into each other.
And so you should make that happen.
conversations probably
progressing faster than
the physicality, which
is comfortable
for me. Right, but you got
to live it in real life too, so you're
going to like, you know. Well, right. Yeah.
And, you know, maybe because of that
wanderer loss, like, you know, when you move
around a lot, I don't know, I get the sense that
you might be a little bit, and listen, I'm a total
commitment folk. I, you know,
I'm a very free spirit.
And so I get
a little bit of a sense from you
that, you know, you might not be so, you know, open or not open.
You're not, like, you might be a little afraid to get, like, locked down in a situation.
Well, a spade of spade and say, you know, last time I locked myself down, she rolled.
Right.
That's what I mean.
That's what happens.
So, like, a lot of times when I said, it's like you're a gun shy.
But it's good that you're to have the balls to do it.
It's good that you have, because I.
I've seen guys not ever date anyone again, you know, become like really, because they got really shafted.
So I think that it's good that you're putting your foot in the water and going into it again because that's what you got to do if you want to be in a relationship.
We're going to have to take that risk again to be totally shafted again.
That's what it's all about.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, you know, if I get shafted again, I'm just going to go to Europe and my European pussy.
fucking game over in Europe.
Okay, well, do me a favor and call me when you do that.
Just go for the accent.
Yeah, well, you could get hooker sex over there, no problem.
You know, and you could get the European people here.
I mean, you're in New York City, I guess, right?
You said that before.
You could get that here.
Yeah.
But, yeah, everyone had that go-to fantasy.
I think of Costa Rica.
I know what hooker sex is.
Come on.
Right.
It's more like you can go over there
and just experience different cultures.
And, I mean,
the one thing that's always been
as serious to me is,
sure, you can have sex in the U.S.
and we have our customs and our norms,
but I wonder if they fuck different
in, you know,
somewhere over there.
Yeah, they're very,
they're very, um, more open-minded about sex.
I've had podcasts about it.
It's very interesting.
They're much more open-minded about it.
You might be, you know,
it's a very, very whole different scene.
I can't get into it because I like to keep my podcast to be about,
no longer than an hour and we're ready at an hour and 12 minutes.
We're at it, yeah.
No, but I mean, I've had longer ones and so that's cool.
So I can't go into all that.
But yeah, you will find a different thing.
So if things go south with your girl and you go to Europe and you start doing shit there
and you're on a adult friend finder and all of a sudden you're not striking out,
I want to hear about it and I'll have you back on the show.
I'll have you back on the show.
We will totally stay in touch either way.
Yeah, definitely.
And I'm going to title the podcast, Strike Out Mike.
And I will let you know.
I'm probably airing it tonight, so I'm going to go edit it and put it together and air it.
And so thanks so much for calling it.
Send me a copy if you don't mind.
Yeah, it'll be up on iTunes.
Do you have iTunes?
I do.
I listened to some earlier, so I'll go back to that.
Yeah, yeah, and Stitcher.
It's also going to be on Stitcher.
I mean, it's going to be right up there.
You could download, listen to it on your phone like it's good to go.
Oh, excellent.
I can do it on my commute.
Yeah, totally.
All right.
Thanks so much for calling in.
Strike out Mike.
All right.
I'll talk soon.
Thanks.
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