Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1005 - Rob Hooks-up with Bi Couples, Men, Women and More

Episode Date: January 7, 2025

Rob is into hooking up with bi couples, men, women and more and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how he was very into couple porn and guys getting bj porn early on and how that shaped his future, how and why and when he went on to Adult Friend Finder to look for couples to hook up with, the first couple he met and exactly what went down with him and the both of them, how he was always into cum and facials and the first facial he got from a guy, how he felt after his first encounter and how long his relationship with the first couple lasted, the first time he topped the husband and exactly what went down and during that threesome, how he eventually would also hook up with the couple solo and tape their sessions, how and why he’s more picky when it comes to the guys he hooks up with vs the women, the second couple he met and exactly what would go down with them, the first prostate orgasm he had, how it happened and why it was so amazing, the single female he met that he took to a swingers club and what went down the first t time they went, how they then started looking for single guys with big dicks to hook up with together, their first dvp and exactly what went down, the train they had with a guy and exactly what went down that night, the married woman he started sleeping with who had a husband who gave her a free pass, the MFF threesome with another woman he had with her and exactly what went down, how she was into bdsm and the kinky things they did together including using spreader bars and public sex, the judgment regarding male bisexuality and how and why he wants people to be less judgmental plus a whole lot more. **To see HOT pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order https://beducate.me/anonymous40 Get BEDucated! For 40% off PLUS a FREE 24-hour trial, click the link and use code: anonymous Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's cc.com and you get a free trial. So you can check it out for free. use Myco 37712 or go to the description and click on the link. So today I have a great guest on. Oh my God. I didn't have to say one word with this guy. He told a great story. He was such a great speaker and he has a lot of great stories. This is a guy from the get-go that always knew he was into couples and guys. He had no shame around it at all. He's a single guy. He's living his best life. He's been hooking up with couples and men, mostly by couples, you know, where the guy is by, since the dawn of time. And he's now 39.

And he talks about all of his stories and all the different things that he got into and all the steps that he took and all the new things he tried and everything that he did with all of the couples that he's hooked up with, as well as all the single women and the different threesomes he's had. He's into facials. He's into com. He's into anal. He's into everything. You won't believe his story's. they're great. He's the best storyteller. I didn't have to say one effing word. He is fantastic. You're going to love his story. He's, you know, he's a guy that's into guys and he's like totally cool with it. And he has the best story. So I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Rob. Hi, Rob. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm doing well. How are you? Thanks for having me. I'm good. You are driving, but for some reason it doesn't sound like you're driving. So it does. Yeah, it's a...

You're driving to Vegas. I got lucky. What happens in Vegas? Days in Vegas, I don't know. You're a guy that, I don't know if you're single or not, Rob, but what I do know is that ever since high school or since you were younger, you always sort of played around. You've hooked up with guys. You hook up with couples.

You really like the couple thing. That's what you seek out the most. Is that the short story? Yeah, that is kind of the short version of it. But wait, let me ask you a quick question, though, Rob. I just want to know real quick right now. Are you married? or are you a single guy and how old are you?

So I'm 39. I'm single. I never been married. No kids. Nothing like that. Okay. So you're still young. So let's go all the way back and why don't you go to the start of this story?

Yeah. Well, you know, I think everybody's, you know, sexuality is in part in tune with like how they grow up. Totally. I had and I, and you hear, unfortunately, a lot of people who are, you know, explorative in their sexual history. A lot of it comes from something bad like trauma. But I actually had the opposite experience. I had a really good childhood. I have great parents.

They're still married. You know, they've been married for like 46 years. And so in our house, you know, just growing up, me and me and my brother, you know, there was never any, like, shame attached to sex. I think I was like, I just turned 13 when I went when I started puberty. And so that's kind of early for boys. And I, ever since then, I've always had a very high sex drive. And so, you know, like most boys that age, I found porn on the Internet like almost everybody

did. And so I started watching stuff and I was just kind of checking it all out, seeing what I liked. And I very quickly kind of found my little niche, you know, the kind of videos that I really liked. I was watching primarily, you know, like, I don't know if they were married, but they were people in committed relationships who were putting their videos online. That's your couple's connection, right. Exactly. That's exactly right. And, you know, at the time I was just watching what I enjoyed. But I didn't really enjoy, like, watching the big studio productions.

I liked the homemade movies. the couples who kind of got famous making porn on the internet. And so, and some of them are still going. It's, it's funny to kind of reflect back and see that some of them are still making porn 20 years later. And so I'm in high school and I'm watching these videos and, you know, like all young boys who have never gotten a blowjob before I was really into the blowjob stuff. And so, and probably late in my high school years, it occurred to me, hey, I'm one of the reasons I'm really enjoying this blowjob stuff is I really really. like some of these guys' dicks. That was part of what I was doing it. I was, I wasn't even

searching for like blowjob scene. I was searching for the guy. You know what I mean? And so it occurred to me like, hey, I'm, I really like that guy's dick. He's got a great dick. You know, and the act of giving someone a blowjob is really, really kind of cool. I kind of like that. And so, you know, I had a girlfriend. We've been dating for a couple years. And my sophomore year in college, she and I broke up. And so I said, well, now I'm single. Now's the time. Right. If I'm, if I'm going to experiment and try stuff, now's the time. I don't have a girlfriend anymore. So I got on adult friendfinder.com because that was the site at the time. So I made a profile and I just wrote on there, hey, I'm looking to give a guy a blowjob. And I would kind of prefer that you be a married guy

and I would prefer that your wife would be there and she could watch or she could join or whatever. But there's just really this thing that I want to try. I've never done it. I might not like it. It might go bad for all of us, but I want to try. So I started sending out messages to a whole bunch of people, and I got some back. And so there was a couple who messaged me back, and they were only about 20 minutes away from where I lived, and they were great. And so we exchanged some messages, and finally they said, hey, come over on Friday night. And so Friday night, I went over to their house, and we sat in their living room for a little bit and made some small talk, and everything was great. They had sent me some pictures beforehand, so we all.

kind of knew what he kind of looked like they were they were a very attractive couple they were a little bit older than me you know i was in my early 20s and they were kind of in their early 30s and that was actually one of their hangups about me was how was how you know young i was but eventually you know after talking with them a little bit they could see i was definitely more on the mature side for guys and so they were they were good with it and so i went over to their house they were very good looking though and you know he had a really great dick and so i was really excited and so we made small talk for a little bit. I was very nervous. And then finally after a little bit, I said, okay, I'm, I'm ready if you are. And they said, absolutely, we're ready. And so I just, you know, they had like an L-shaped sectional

in their living room that we were sitting on. And so I just got up and I walked to him. And he stood up, and I took his pants down and he had a great dick. And so, and I just started to suck on him. And as soon as I did, I was like, yes, like, this is exactly what I wanted it to be. It was super hot. And so his wife joined in and so we were giving him a blow job together and I got really turned on and so I'm you know I'm like rock hard in my shorts and so you know she starts rubbing me and everything's going great and so one of the things we hadn't talked about was like what were we going to do when he was ready to blow his load and so one of the things that we hadn't really talked about was that I I kind of enjoyed come I hit you know as one of the things I had done as a youngster you know playing around was I had you know tried my own

come and I kind of liked it. I was like, oh, that's not, that's not so bad. I think it was probably after my girlfriend had been like, oh, that's not so great. And so I was like, it can't be that bad. And so I tried it. And I was like, that's not bad at all. But I was also kind of into the facial thing, right, given facials, you know, because I, you know, I experienced this watching porn. And so, you know, we're giving this guy a blowjob, and I'm loving it. And he's super hard, and she's super turned on, and I'm super turned on. And, like, we're all into it, and it was going great. And so finally, I kind of surprised him and I said, I want you to blow it all over my face. And so, you know, who doesn't get excited is the guy to hear that. And so, you know, and so like, you know, about 30 seconds

later, he's coming. And it was a nice, big come shot just like I like. And so it was awesome. Everybody's super turned on. You know, he, it was the first time someone other than myself had ever come on me. And so, you know, that was, that was new, but I, but I liked it. It was fun. And so it was great. And so they, you know, they clean me up a little bit. And so we're sitting there and she said, you know, you got really turned on doing that. I said, oh, yeah. And she said, well, how about he and I give you a blowjob and finish you off? And I said, that'd be great. So, you know, they, they went down on me and, and she was, she gave me a great blow job. That was, I mean, that was only the second person ever to give me a blow job. But even to this day, when I think about some of the best blow jobs I've

ever had in my life, she's at the top of the list. I mean, that was tremendous. Okay. And so, So that was our first encounter. And so, you know, I drove home, and I was like, that was fantastic. That was exactly what I wanted to be. Like, I hope we get to do that again. And so before I even got home, they had texted me and said, hey, you were great. Like, what do you think about coming over in a couple days? And I was like, absolutely.

And so I actually, for the next two years of my last two years of college, I saw them for about two nights a week. I would go over to their house and we would play together. Wow. And yeah, and it really grew into this. really tremendous kind of thing we had. You know, he was, and it, you know, he was a firefighter and she was a teacher. And so he would be gone for days at a time, you know?

And so it was usually like Wednesday night and Saturday night where the two nights that I would kind of go over there. So I was, you know, this college kid who would disappear on Saturday night and everyone could figure out where I was going. And I would tell, you know, I'm going back home, you know, because I didn't go to college very far from where I grew up. And I said, oh, you know, I'm going to see my parents or I'm going to see so and so or whatever. but I was really going over to their house. So you were definitely living like a little secret life. For sure. In college, I definitely was, just because, you know, it was so new.

And it was very taboo at the time. You know, it's gotten a little less as times gone by, but it's still kind of taboo the whole, you know, guy on guy thing, which is really sad, but that's just the truth. It's gotten a little less as times gone by, but it's still kind of taboo the whole, you know, guy on guy thing, which is really sad, but that's just the truth. but it was it was great they turned out to be a much more like advanced and experienced couple than I had realized when I first went over there they had been you know in a lifestyle for a number of years but it really turned into this great thing for me because they they started letting me tag along to house parties and we would go to clubs together and and we would meet you know other couples and the husband had a had a gay friend that he would that he would invite over and so you know I would show up and those two would be

fucking each other and so me and the wife would kind of do our thing and then you know and then you know we would kind of switch it up for round two but uh one of the things you know i i had never i had never had sex for a man before and so uh his wife said i you know i really want to i really want to watch you fuck him and so i was a little nervous about it i had never done it before but i was like you know sure yeah like let's do it i want to do it and so it was it was it was one of the the most fun experiences of my life it was even better than the blow job and so the the first you know she was she was super excited she loved watching the men play together and so she was super excited she was really turned on and so you know she was great we were making out you know she was stroking me and

then you know she put the condom on and she bent him over and she looped him up and then she looped me up and then you know she grabbed the base of my dick and put it right there on his hole and you know I kind of slowly started to fuck him and it and it was it was on it actually was the first time I'd ever put my dick in anybody's ass man male or female oh interesting yeah and so but it was awesome. It was almost like, I don't want to use the word intimate, but like she and I were kissing as, you know, I'm fucking her husband in the ass. And she was super turned on and she loved watching it, you know, and she would, you know, stroke him a little bit too. And, you know, they would kind of talk to each other a little bit about it. And it was, it was super hot. And so, you know,

that was kind of my first experience, you know, fucking another man. But over, over two years, it really blossomed into like this really great, you know, relationship where we all kind of became friends. And it got to the point where kind of in that second year, you know, I would see them separately as well. You know, when he would be gone at work, I would go over and we had, they had bought a webcam. And so she and I would fuck and we would record it on the webcam.

And we would just point the webcam at the bed and whatever happened would happen. And then, you know, he would be gone for three days. and then when he would come home, one of our favorite thing to do was he would play back the video and I would give him a blowjob while he was watching the video. And she would just sit there kind of in what,

and usually she would just watch, and usually she would kind of masturbate too, because watching two guys together really, really was kind of her ticket. And so, you know, for two years, that was kind of our deal. And this was the only couple I was seeing, but then after I graduated from college,

I moved to Denver to go to graduate school. to go to law school. And so, you know, I moved away. And so now I'm kind of like starting from ground zero. So I get to Denver, you know, and so I do exactly what I did the first time. I get back on Adult Friend Finder and I basically repost the same ad like, hey, this is what I'm looking for. And so I'm, you know, and it turns out Denver is way better than where I was in Texas for finding bisexual couples. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. I don't, I don't know. And, you know, I grew up in Texas, which is a very conservative place. And so I think that might have had something to do.

Yeah, but sometimes those conservative places are where you find the most freaks. So I don't really necessarily believe that. Actually, at the end of this, we'll circle back because the place I've had the most fun is in Salt Lake City where all the Mormons. That's what I'm saying. Do you know what I'm saying? Like in Nashville, it's like every corner there's a church and then there's a porn shop. You know what I mean?

Like it's just where you find the most religious people, you find the most freaks. It's just, yeah. Yes, there is some pent-up sexual energy. Salt Lake City, I can tell you that. Yeah. Okay, so anyway, keep going. So now you're in Denver and there's a lot of couples to choose from. Yeah, and so I met the first couple, and it was a very similar to experience to the first couple. They were, they were not quite as attractive, but they were certainly, you know, they weren't, you know, Brown, they weren't a brownback special or anything like that. You know, and I'm not very, when it comes to the women, I'm not very picky, you know, I don't, I do have a type in women,

but, you know, when it comes to my type for the couples, you know, I'm very, I'm way more broad in my selection. But the guys, I'm more picky about the guys. That's interesting. Yeah, I don't know why. And this sounds bad, but I don't like fat guys. You know, I take good care of myself. I'm in good shape.

You know, I kind of want the people I have sex with to be in good shape too. And then, you know, I do have a thing for guys with big dicks. You know. You're a size king. That's cool. Yeah. Like, even though I'm the top, like, I still want the guy. to have a big dick. I don't know why.

Well, because you're blowing him and you like, it's a visual thing, right? And that's exactly it. Like, I love the way, you know, I love the way it feels in my mouth. I love the way it feels in my hand. I love the way it looks. Even when they're soft, I like the way they look. You know, and so yeah, I definitely enjoy the guys

with the bigger dicks. And so the first couple, they were great. They were all into the exact same things. I was atop. He was definitely the bottom. This couple, though, kind of introduced me into more, this was the first couple that I really got into the like cuck and stag kind of thing with. The first couple, it was just straight bisexual fun and everybody was on the

same level. And this was, you know, this couple in Denver was, it was very much the same, but he definitely enjoyed watching me with his wife. And then, you know, when I would play with him, there was definitely, and I don't want to call it like Dom Sub, anything like that, because I don't think it was that but it was definitely more of like his his wife really enjoyed uh watching her husband get fucked by a more like alpha guy i guess i would say mm-hmm you know and so you know and he would he kind was kind of the same thing you know he really enjoyed you know that when i would take control and just kind of have my way with him and so we we definitely got like a little bit a little bit kinkier with this couple uh than the than the than the original one we got into things like

Well, she was the one who really introduced me to the ass play. You know, he really liked having big, big dicks in his ass, and I'm pretty well hung, and I'm pretty thick, which is what he really enjoyed. Yeah. And so, and she did, too. That was really what she enjoyed about my dick, too, was the girth, not really the length. But she really introduced me to the anal play. And so, you know, when we got together, you know, I was pretty clear.

Like, I'm definitely open to it because I've heard people talk about how explosive, of like the prostate orgasms can be. Yeah. And all those types of things, but I had never tried it. I had experimented, you know, with like putting my finger in my ass in the shower and, you know, things like that. And I enjoyed that. But I had never, I don't think I'd ever actually, like, gotten my prostate stimulated

or anything like that. And so she had this little toy, though, and she said, this is, like, this little thing here is the truth. And so her husband was like, yeah, this thing will rock your world. And so I said, all right, well, you know, we'll give it a try. And so for all of the heterosexual guys out there listening to this, let me just tell you, like, enjoying this little thing in your ass does not make you gay, it doesn't make you buy. If you want the best orgasm you've ever had in your life, you need to give this a try because it will, it's a completely different orgasm than what you're used to. And I don't know what everybody else's experience is, but mine was amazing.

She put this, you know, and she was nice and slow and gentle, but once she got this toy in there, it just kind of started like vibrating a little bit on my prostate. And about, I don't know, less than a minute later, I'm having this like incredible, like full body. Yeah, that's what they say. This orgasm came from like somewhere deep inside of me. And my dick wasn't even hard. Yeah, that's crazy. It wasn't even hard. and I shot this like huge load out of nowhere, out of this, out of my soft dick.

And I would, it honestly took me like 10 minutes to recover from it because I was like, what in the world just happened? But that was, that was a, that was a tremendous deal there. I highly recommend that. But, you know, for them, it was more about, they really enjoyed me kind of, you know, dominating, I don't want to say dominating, because that's not completely accurate. But there was, there was definitely, you know, I was kind of in control of both of them, you know, when we would fuck uh you know i you know she really enjoyed rough sex and and he he enjoyed watching

her do it with other men so you know she and she enjoyed like when she was given me head you know i would kind of make her gag on my dick a little bit and and and she kind of like to have a she like to have a you know a hand wrapped around her throat even though you know like i never you know like did anything to hinder her breathing you know i i think it's really just like i don't know it's I think the neck is a very like erogenous zone, just like a bunch of other places. And so, you know, I think there's this misconception about people who like to have their hands on their throat. It's not about choking them. It's about the same way you would kiss their neck or suck on their neck.

I think that was more. That's definitely way more of it. Anyway, and then she really liked, she really enjoyed me kind of giving him orders on what to do in the bedroom. And our favorite thing to do is she would lay down and I would make him eat her pussy while I would fuck his ass and she really was into dirty talking which is something i really didn't even know that i was really into into dirty talking and so she was really into dirty talking and she loved to hear how tight his ass was and you know and and and when it got really aggressive she you know she would be like tell me you know he's your little slut and so uh you know and i got really into this and i and i it was the first

my first real exposure to it and it turns out i was really into it and so and i don't know how like crass or vulgar you want me to be on the on the on the on the deal here you could be as crass or as you want. Okay. Because I tend to be that way. I'm, I'm, like, editing myself a little bit. Listen, you're like the best storyteller. I have my microphone on my lap, which I never do while someone's, while I'm talking to someone, because I don't have to say one word. Just keep telling your story. You're just amazing. It's like on a Friday, on a holiday. I love this. You're making my life so easy. Be as vulgar as you want. People love it. Keep going. Okay. Okay. And I assume, like, there's a bunch of people who will, like, that'll make the podcast better.

if I am a little bit more vulgar? Yeah, yes, for sure. Okay. So guys are listening. Okay. That's true. That's a good point. That's a good point.

So, yeah. So her favorite thing was, you know, to lay down and be eating out while I was fucking her husband in the ass. You know, and I would say all kind of, you know, how tight his ass was and, you know, how much I was stretching his ass out with my big shit dick and how he just loved to be fucked by another man while he ate his wife's pussy. And so, like, and sure enough, you know, she could. you know, I could reach around and kind of jerk him off and he would come, you know, you know, from being fucked in the ass, which is kind of rare that I've, in my experience, I haven't found a whole lot of men like that. But he would, he would get hard and come from being fucked in the ass.

Yeah, that's great. And so, yeah. And so she, that was a huge turn on for her, you know, she could tell when, when he was starting to come and that would do it for her and then she would just have these huge orgasms, you know, when that, when that would happen. And then when I was done with him, you know, then I would, I would swap the condom out. And then I would sit him in the chair and start fucking his wife and make him watch. And it was basically much the same thing.

Like, my dick fills her up so much better than yours. And look how much harder she comes on my dick than yours. And, you know, you never make her moan or scream like this, do you? And he just, and they both just kind of ate it up. And I, you know, the more I said, the more the hotter it got. And I was like, man, I'm actually really into this. Like, this is kind of a new thing for me. And so same thing with that couple.

I think they were a regular play partner with me for about a year and a half. And then she got pregnant, not with my kid, with his. And that was kind of of it. You know, we fell out of touch and I'm actually not sure where they are now. But, you know, for a year and a half, we had a bunch of fun. And they were great because the clubs and the house party scene in Denver is actually quite good. there's a bunch of really nice lifestyle clubs and then the the best thing for me about being in Denver was the clubs in Denver had you know bisexual's night and so that was a great place for me to go

and meet you know bisexual couples and so you know I met numerous couples and had some great experiences with them both in the club and then you know becoming a regular thing you know certainly had a lot of fun there was in addition to the by thing I was also kind of just kind of just just looking for some, you know, no strings attached sex just with a woman. And so, you know, from time to time, I would put ads out on Craigslist. And so I'm a half-decent writer. And so, you know, I could put some clever stuff out there. And so there was a woman that I started, that I started seeing. She was also in graduate school. And so we had a lot of, you know, and for us, she just, she was very vanilla. At least I thought she was. You know, we just had some pretty

vanilla sex, but she also had a very high sex drive like me. And so I saw her a couple times a week. And so finally, you know, we were having some pillow talk and she was like, what do you, what are you into? Like, we've had some pretty normal sex, you know, but like, what are you into? And I said, there's actually quite a bit, you know, and she's like, oh, yeah, everybody says that, but then they won't tell me what it is. And so I said, you know, I'm, I'm bisexual. I like to have sex with men. and so she reaches over and grabs her phone and opens it and she's watching gay you know she had like some gay porn thing opened on her phone you know and she's like I love gay porn oh my god oh my god you got to be shit so she's like she's like can you know like can I do it with you and I was like what do you mean she was like let's can I can I watch you fuck another man and so I was like well how about we go to the we go to the club together you know we go to the swingers club there's there's a by night you know once a month you know or whatever it was. So she was like, hell yeah, let's go. So the two of us go to the club, and she was super nervous. She had never done anything like this, you know, but obviously I had,

you know, quite a bit of experience. So we go into the club and it's, you know, part of it was outdoor. And so it's, you know, it's the summertime in Denver. It's super nice out. And so they had these cabanas you could rent. And so we rented the cabana. So it's the two of us kind of hanging out in there, you know, and that's kind of like, you know, our like home base while we're meeting people and stuff. And so, you know, we met, we met a guy who was, you know, similar to me and that he was just there by himself, but, but, you know, he was kind of looking for some guy on guy stuff. And so, you know, she was like, you know, what do you think? And I said, well, I'm, you know, I'm good with him. If you are, you know, he was good looking. And, you know, I said,

hopefully he's, you know, hopefully he's got a big dick. And so, you know, we go to our cabana. And so I was like, you know, like, this is all about you. What do you want to have happen? And she was like, I don't know. Just do it and let me watch. And it was really kind of funny. And so, you know, he and I just started going at it. And, you know, he started giving me head.

And then I started sucking him. And then I started fucking him. And so I'm, you know, she's, you know, she's super into it. And then before you know it, because we're outside of this cabana, you know, there's a whole bunch of people watching. And so that was kind of how I figured out. I really enjoyed when people were watching me. And even though we had been to the clubs before and been to the house parties,

there was never, and I don't know why this never really happened, there was never a whole lot of playtime for us. That was a great way for us to meet couples and meet other people. But we never, you know, there was never much sexual activity there. It was only until later we would bring somebody home or we would meet up with somebody another week or so later and then we would play. But this was the first time really at the club. that I had been, you know, fucking somebody.

And so, you know, there's, I don't know, four or five people standing there watching and, you know, a couple of the guys are jerking off and, you know, the ladies are watching watching, and, you know, they're super, you know, turned on watching guys go at it. And so all of a sudden, you know, I'm like, holy smokes, I'm really into this. I'm like putting on a show. Like, you know, and I get this huge inflated ego, you know, like, I'm the star of the show right now. Look at me. And so that, you know, we had a good time with that guy and, you know, never.

never saw him again but had a great time and she was like that was that was awesome that was that was exactly what i wanted it to be and i said you know do you do you want to like get involved in that and she said yeah like next time yes i i was nervous to ask but like yeah can i can i be in there with you three and i said of course like that's and so then i kind of explained to her my history with couples and that was actually like kind of more what i was comfortable with and so you know we started putting uh we started putting at she and i would put ads out on craigslist looking for single, like bisexual guys. And so now like she and I became like this pseudo, you know, we were like the pseudo couple,

you know, looking for, looking for, you know, guys. And so, you know, we found a whole bunch of them, but you got to vet those guys really carefully, one, because it's Craigslist. And I don't know if you ever were involved in that, but that was always a shady, a shady platform. Well, I got all my callers from there early on, by the way. Okay, yeah, that adds up. Yeah.

You know, but like, there's a whole bunch of married guys. I know. You don't know what you're dealing with on there. Yeah, it's a lot of bullshit, a lot of Beat and Switch, a lot of fake people. Yeah, people. But it was a free-for-all for sure. Yeah. Yeah. You know, but like after some vetting, you could find some people that were legit. And so we found this, we found this guy. And he was a super handsome guy.

And so obviously in our post, we put, you know, like, the bigger your dick, the better. Because, you know, I'm into that. She didn't really care. But I did. And so we found this great guy. You know, he was like half Hispanic, half white, and so he had this great, you know, the great complexion. And he had a nice big old dick, which is kind of rare because he's half Hispanic. And so you know how those stereotypes go. You're like, oh, he's got a tiny dick. He had a nice big old dick.

And so it became like a kind of a regular thing for us to play with. And so, and she was, you know, we eventually did a spit roast with her. And she was super turned on by that. She loved that. It was the first time she'd done anything like that. But just like the feeling of having multiple men, she really got off on that on having both of us together. And then, you know, after a while, she said, you know, I want to try double vaginal. I want to do DVP.

And so I was like, okay, well, you know, I've never done that before, but I think it would be super hot, you know, to feel that inside of you. And so he was totally down for it. He was ready. And so, you know, we did that. And that was another deal that was just unbelievable. It was just, I mean, I think the number one thing is we had to get her super turned on because it's just, you know, two guys with big dicks. And she had a tight little pussy too.

I mean, this thing was tight. And but she would get super wet. And so, you know, we're like, yeah, we can make this work. You know, we just got to get it really turned on. And so, you know, like, we put on this great show for, you know, we were sucking each other off. You know, we were jacking each other off. you know, I think we fucked each other for a little bit, you know, and then she's just like dripping wet, ready to go. Like, all right, I think I can get both of you in there now.

And so, you know, like she lays down on the bed, he gets on, or, you know, like, he lays down, she gets on top. And then I, and then I'm like behind them trying to get myself in there. And after about a minute or so, we made it happen. It was really tight. And, but, I mean, that was an absolutely incredible feeling to feel another man's cock in there with her. and so you know i was the one kind of like doing the fucking because i'm in the back i'm the only one who can really move at this point you know like it's it's a real i don't know if you've ever done it but like logistically it's kind of a hard thing to get done yeah i've heard

and and so you know like i'm the one doing all the fucking and and he was moaning and like the two you're familiar with with cox on the on the underside is like the main vein that feels really good yeah and so like the way were oriented you know like the the two of our like main veins are kind of rubbing on each other and even through the condoms you can feel it um and so the two of us are just like absolutely rock hard and so i mean it didn't take very long i think after about a minute of fucking he's like oh my god i'm gonna come and you know he had a condom on and she was she was fine with him coming in a pussy and so he starts coming and then so when i feel his cockthrob inside of her i'm like that was

it for me. And I, you know, generally pride myself on my stamina. But when I felt his cox robbing inside of her, I was like, oh, that's it. Like, that's the point of no return for me. Here I go. And so, like, the two of us coming inside of her together was just so hot. It was so erotic. It was so sexy. And then, like, she, you know, we start coming and she can feel it and she can hear it. And I'm, you know, you can tell by talking to me, I'm kind of loud. And so like, and I'm, and I'm extra loud in bed. And so, you know, she, she has this huge orgas. And so, like, all three of us are coming together. And it was just this, like, synchronized, harmonious, like, bliss. It was just absolutely tremendous. And so, you know, we're all kind of laying there. And, you know, we're all just kind of coming down off of that high almost. And so, and so I made a joke about, like, that was so cool. Like, the next thing I want to do, is like, I want him to fuck you and then I want to fuck him into you. And they were both like, yeah, we could do that.

And so that was kind of like the next fun thing that we tried. Is this all the same night? No, this is like a week later. Okay, cool. So you're just like still hanging out all together trying to stop out. Okay, cool. Go on. Yeah.

And so like the three of us are just kind of like doing what feels good, you know, going with the flow. And yeah, so the next thing we wanted to do was I wanted to fuck him into her. And I had seen that in some porn and I thought that was pretty cool. So basically, like, they would fuck missionary style or something like that. And then, you know, he would, she, he would put her legs up over his shoulders. And then I could get behind him and I could put my dick in him. And so. Oh, it's like a train.

Yeah, exactly. So I'm fucking him and that's what's actually thrusting him into her. Okay, interesting. Okay, I got it. And so it's like this kind of unique way to like fuck both of them at the same time. And so we did stuff like that, and that was super hot. I really enjoyed that. And then, you know, she and I were, were having sex on, like, some random night or whatever. Just the two of us. He wasn't there. And so I had told her that, you know, I had come on her face a couple times, and she was cool with that because I really like giving facials. And I like taking them, too, so it's equal, you know, like it's not a one-way street with me. And so, and so I told her, I said, hey, I want to, I want to show you. something that I that I want to try and so she was like all right and so it's you know like snowballing where you come in a woman's mouth and then she and then she kisses you and so I said I really want to

try this I like I already know what my come tastes like I've tried it a bunch of times like it's just fine to me and she was like yeah I would I would love to do that and so we did it and it was it was super hot it was super sexy you know she she gave I feel bad saying that she gave okay blow jobs I you know knowing that we were going to snowball, I, you know, I came really hard. And so she and I are sharing this really intimate kiss, you know, and we're sharing the come. And I was like, man, this is, this is another thing that I just kind of really, really enjoyed. And so, you know, that was kind of like the next, you know, evolution of things that I kind of really got into. And so, you know, you know, fast forward now, you know, I'm in my kind of early 30s and, and I'm, you know, and I'm, I'm seeing, I think at this point I had, I was seeing three different couples at the same time, all in the bisexual kind of realm. And so it occurred to me like, hey, I, I probably, like, I'm not really interested in having kids. I'm on, I'm needs deep in my career right now. You know, I work 80 hours a week. I work six days a week. Like, I really don't need a kid. Like, I need to go have a vasectomy.

And so, because I'm doing all this fucking, and the women I'm fucking are not my wife. They're someone else's wife. You know what I mean? And so I went ahead of vasectomy. And so one of the couples that I was playing with, you know, I told him, I said, hey, you know, I'm going to be out of commission for a little bit. I'm having a vasectomy. You know, like there's just no reason for me to risk doing this. And so the husband said, well, you know, once you have the vasectomy, you know, if you wanted to go get tested, I would be totally fine.

if you wanted to fuck my wife without a condom. And so I said, well, let me think about it, you know, because the one thing I'm very proud of is that I've always, you know, sexual health has always been very important to me. And so I have always used protection. There has never been like one time where I've ever said, fuck it and not used it. You know what I mean?

And so now I'm like, you know, I just, I don't know. Like you guys are married. Like, I don't know. But, you know, finally I did cave and I said, all right, I've had a vasectomy. You know, if we all go get tested and everybody can prove that they're clean, like, I'll do it. Like, I'm game. And so, and so I'm, I started fucking his wife without a condom.

And, you know, and that was cool. It didn't do much for me, but they really, they really enjoyed it. That was, that was a big thing for them. And so at this point in my career, I had, I had been promoted a couple of times. And so finally I got to the point where, you know, my, the company I was working for asked me to start traveling around a whole bunch. And so, you know, we were, the firm was based in Denver, but, you know, they wanted me to like basically everywhere on the West Coast, all the big cities, like Seattle, Portland,

Boise, Salt Lake City, Phoenix, L.A., San Diego, the Bay Area, like, everywhere. And so I was like, sure, you know, I have no family. I just work. Like, let's do it. And so, you know, that was about, that was about 10 years ago that that started. And so ever since then, you know, now that there's all kinds of apps, you know, and I'm on the apps and that's been great. But now, you know, I'm able to, you know, kind of like branch out and meet people like all over the country. And so I met this, this woman in Seattle. And she was, I met her on, I met her on, on Tinder. And so she was in a bit of a unique situation.

She had married like a significantly older man about 15 years earlier. And so now she's, you know, she and I are about. the same age and he is to the point in his in his deal where he's just not interested in sex anymore and so you know he got he got permission for him to basically go find someone to have sex with and so you know i met her on tinder and we were talking and i said hey like i'm not based in seattle but i'm going to be there and uh you know and i'm going to be there for six weeks and so you know and here's the dates i'm going to be there and one of the nice things about my travel is it's not for like a week or two weeks it's for like you know six weeks or a month

or whatever. And so I'm actually able to like meet people and establish relationships and like get to know people and see people more than once, all that kind of stuff. And it's not like, hey, if it's not Friday night, that's not going to happen, you know. And so I met this woman and we hit, we had, you know, chatting through the app and then, you know, exchanging numbers and chatting over text. We had great, we had great chemistry. And she had a super high sex drive and she was, she was ready to like, not ready.

She had done a bunch sexually in the past, and I don't know if she married this guy for money or whatever. It definitely wasn't for the sex. You know, she was definitely very open-minded, and so, you know, we had talked about some of the different things we wanted to try. And so I went up to Seattle, and so one of the things that I had told her that I was into that she was really into was the cum thing. She also, like, really happened to enjoy the taste of cum. And so she and I did a bunch with that. you know we even got to the point where you know now that I had kind of gotten a little comfortable

you know having sex without a condom you know I kind of had the same deal with her like hey you know you and I are going to have to kind of be exclusive to do this you know to protect ourselves but if you're okay with it if your husband is okay with it like you know I would like to come in your pussy and then eat the come out of you and she was like that is so hot and so I was like well like if you If you can get that approved, let's do it.

And so, you know, her husband was fine. He was like, you know, I don't think you and I are going to have sex ever again. Like I have no interest in it. And I don't want to have an interest in it. And so I was like, well, that sucks for that guy, but good for me. And so she and I, you know, we did a bunch of that. And so we actually kind of, you know, I was there for six weeks. And so, you know, we spent a bunch of time together.

If I wasn't at the office work and I, I was spending time with her. And so, you know, she and I spent a lot of time, you know, together with the, with the cum thing because that was definitely the big kink that we had that we kind of shared. And she knew I was bisexual, too. She knew that. But she, you know, she wasn't really into like the two guys thing. But she wanted to do, she wanted to be with another woman.

She had never done that before. And so, and oddly enough, I had never had a threesome with two women. I had done it with two men and a man and a woman a bunch of times, but I had never done it with two women. Oh, interesting. Yeah. And now when I told her that, she was like, there's no way that's true. And I was like, I'm serious. Now that I think back on it, that's never happened.

I've been with two guys. I've been with three guys. I've been with five men and four guys. I've been with five men and four women, but I've never been with two women. And so she was like, well, you know, let's do it. And so we, you know, we found another woman. And so we had our first, like, MFM threesome. Oh, I'm sorry.

MFF. Yeah, yeah, there you go. There you go. MFF. We had our first threesome with two chicks. And that was awesome. And it was great for her because that was something she had wanted to try for, like, the entire time she was married and even before then, but just never did it.

And so, you know, we got into some really cool situations. eventually one of the women we met there that we went on a coffee date because you know you're in Seattle so everyone has everything has to start with a coffee date in Seattle and so and so we uh we met this woman on Tinder and she was definitely kind of into definitely way more until like the BDSM world but she loved women and she was really intrigued more more than anything by like our situation the fact that this woman was married and you know but not to me but permission to fuck me and so she was really kind of interested in all of that and so this woman kind of we all kind of got involved in a little bit of BDSM play with with this with this chick her her whole

deal though was she really like to be restrained and then she liked to have people have their way with her and so she had like a spreader bar which was super cool I really enjoyed this I don't know if you know what the spreader bar is yeah for sure yeah okay so that was you know and that like you know handcuffed and being tied to the bed or, you know, being tied to the sofa or anything, anything you could restrain her to. That was her whole deal. Right. You know, and then, you know, people just kind of have in their way with her.

You know, she had that, she had that super intro, it was the little strap that straps the vibrator to your leg. Have you seen that? It's a strap that, it ties it to your leg? I don't understand. No. It's like, okay, so, like the magic wand? Yeah. So put the wand on your pussy and then lay it on your leg and then strap.

wrap it to your legs so she can't take it off her pussy. Oh, that's great. So it's hands free is what you're saying. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's awesome. I like hands free. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And so she can't, like, it won't move, but she couldn't take it off even if she wanted to. Yeah, because she's tied up. Right. I got it. Exactly.

Exactly. And so we would do all kinds of stuff with her. And one of the things that she really, she really liked to be face fucked. And I had never done that with anybody. And so, you know, I got really into that. I really enjoyed face fucking her. we'll call her my girlfriend but my girlfriend

really loved eating this woman's pussy and she had a super juicy little pussy it was super tight she got super wet um and so that's what it was for those two was just going down on each other while I face fuck her

and so we got it we got into the into the I mean we did it was such it wasn't like hardcore BDSM or anything like that but it was basically just restraining each other and then kind of like my last little fun adventure with this woman as I was telling her,

you know, about one of my time at the, at the club in Denver when I realized I really enjoyed when people watched me have sex. You know, I was, you know, I was fucking that guy in the, in the,

in the, cabana and everybody was watching and I got really turned on. And so, and she made a, so I was telling her about it, and she was like, okay, you know,

that's kind of cool. I kind of like that. So about a week later, she and I are walking down the street, uh, in Seattle in downtown from the restaurant bar we were at back to my hotel room. So we're walking down the street and it's probably like midnight, I don't know, midnight, 12, 30, something like that.

It's, I mean, it's late. It's not like there's a bunch of people out on the street, but there's people because it's, you know, it's downtown. And she was like, she was like, hey, stop right there. And I was like, why? So I stop and she just gets on her knees and pulls my dick out and starts sucking on it. Right there in the middle of the street. Oh, my God.

The middle of the side, it was the sidewalk, middle of the sidewalk. And so I'm saying, like, there's people walking towards us. There's people on the other side of the street. And so, like, half of me is super turned on. And the other half of me is like, are we about to get in trouble? You know, because at the end of the day, I am still a lawyer, you know, and so I'm like, oh, my God, what laws are we breaking? You know, like, how do I, you know, like, what am I going to do?

And so, like, she's sucking my dick on the middle of the sidewalk. And I'm like, holy hell, this is super hot. And so, you know, that was a great deal. She didn't finish me off or anything. We had to hurry back to the hotel room so we could fuck. But, you know, like, you know, and that was just like about a year ago now. And so every time I go to Seattle, I, you know, I see her a whole bunch. But I'm basically like this traveling lawyer, and I just go from city to city to city conducting, you know, business.

And then at night, you know, I'm just kind of looking for couples. but you know like you asked me how old I was I'm 39 I'll be 40 in the spring and so you know like I guess like one of the reasons I wanted to call was you know one of the things I have not had in my life is is a big outlet for for what I do sexually you know like you ask people all the time like are you out and proud and I guess for me like the answer is really kind of no you know nobody really in my business life or in my family kind of knows what's what I'm doing. You know, and some of that's because there would be professional ramifications for me, I think, that would be unfortunate because I really do love my career.

But, you know, I plan to retire in five years, you know, because, you know, financially I've done pretty well. And so, you know, my plan is to retire in five years. And so, you know, in a little bit, it won't matter anyways. Right. But, you know, I was listening to your episode a couple, probably about a week ago now with Brian from front porch swingers. And I thought he made some absolutely incredible points about, you know, you know, bisexuality in general and, you know, and people who are in the lifestyle.

And I'm kind of with him. You know, I really don't like calling it that. I think he said something about it. He doesn't like using that word or, you know, he doesn't like calling it that. You know, because as many great experiences as I've had and as wonderful as it's been and as much great sex as I've had, there are some really judgmental people, you know, in this area of life.

You know, I've met, I've met, you know, couples, you know, at swingers clubs or house parties and they say, oh, you know, you're by. We don't get involved with bi people. And I'm like, my guy, I've seen your wife eat other women's pussies, like numerous times. Yeah, it's true. So anyway, like, you know, part of it is I you know I I want to do something to help like end the stigma of especially male bisexuality because it's like that you know female bisexuality is so celebrated and no one's got any problem with it at all and it's so open and it's just like if in this day and age if if you're in your 20s or 30s and you haven't kissed a girl like what what are you doing like you haven't lived everybody's done that you know but on the but on the other side of the coin it's it's completely different you know and and and I and I

And I'm kind of interesting in my sexuality because my interest in men is purely sexual. Like I would never, I would never consider having a, you know, a real relationship with a man. You know, I would never, you know, nothing like that. You know, mine is just, it's very carnal. It's very, it's very physical. Like that, for me, that's, that's all it is. Yeah, no, I get it sounds like it. I mean, you know, you're having a great time.

My mission in life is to get guys to be more open about it because I have a lot of guys on my show that are doing all of the stuff that you're doing very much on the down. low and you still have to do it on the download even in the I mean it sounds like you were like when you were in Denver they had buy nights which is super cool but even in the lifestyle there's a big stigma around it and that sucks so I'm glad that you called in and shared your story because it's just another person being out and proud but I'm going to tell you the truth the truth is the younger generation they don't give a fuck they're all by okay all of them the men the women it's not just the women it's everyone I watched Disney movies with my kid and all these teenager movies and they're all, the guys are dating guys, the girls are dating girls,

they're all making out with each other. Like the younger generation, they don't give a shit. They're all open and out and proud. It's more like the older people that need to get on board. You know, it's sad because the truth is that, you know, there's probably a lot of guys doing what you're doing on the DL. You're not because you don't have to because you're living your life the way you want to. You know, but a lot of people kind of read the book,

felt like they had to get married and do the right thing and be straight, but they're really not. they're living double lives and that's a sad thing. And that is, and I've worked very hard in my sex life to avoid those people. You know, like even vetting other couples that you potentially would have sex with. Yeah, Brian said the same thing. He doesn't like to hook up with anyone that's not out and proud. And so he, a lot of times he's with a lot of gay men because a lot of the straighter guys,

you know, or the guys that aren't gay are on the DL or married. And he's not into that. You know, he wants someone that's out and proud and is not doing it behind anyone back. So yeah, you should email him. You should email him because he was exactly right. You have to, hey, like, I have, I've had to turn a hundred people, a hundred people away. Like, hey man, like, not interested in you guys. Like, your relationship is clearly

fucked up and you're, like, this is a last ditch effort. And I'm not interested in being that. Like, good luck moving forward. Like, sorry. Yeah. Well, listen, you're going to have to join my, like, now I'm allowed to, like, gift people free Patreon. So whenever people are on my show, I could give, I'm going to give you a gift for my Patreon for the first month. And you could go on there and talk to everybody that comments on your episode.

And I'll also give you free access to my Discord. And there's like a guest channel on there. There's like a Dick Pig channel. There's a by guy channel. There's a lot of guy on guy stuff going on over there. So I'll also give you free access to that. So you could go in and, you know, keep this conversation going. And like, listen, I got to say you were like the best storyteller ever.

And if I ever need to do another guy on guy like, you know, talk like I had with Brian, you know, I'll definitely have you back on. you made my life super easy. You're a great storyteller. And I could tell that you want to keep talking bigger picture, which I love too. Yeah. Yeah. Email me anytime. Okay, cool.

And I'll email you. Or if you just want like some down and dirty, like play by play. No, no. That's, oh yeah. Cool. Yeah. We'll do a part too. Like people love that shit all the time.

So yeah, you'll be back on when I want to free. When I want a vacation day, I'm calling you. Okay. Because this is like the easiest episode ever. email me email me i'm i'm connected to my damn phone so email me thanks so much for calling in and i'll send you links to everything on your free access and your episode will be up very soon in january okay okay awesome thanks so much rob thanks for calling in you're great yeah my pleasure yep my pleasure okay okay i just want to tell you before you go that my book it's called strictly anonymous confession

secret sex lives of total strangers is now available not only in paperback and ebook but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story.

There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang-bang girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person, and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book.

Think like Penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around.

You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format. back format. And finally, the audio book is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay. I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of

contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook or the paperback. Send it to me at strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.