Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1024 - Alain is into BDSM and Started a Private, High End Sex Party in NYC

Episode Date: January 31, 2025

Alain is a dom into bsdm and he runs a high end NYC sex party and he called in to talk all. About it. Tune in to hear all the details including his first memories of being a dom and being into being a sadist, what being a sadist is all about and what he loves about it, his first sexual experiences out of the gate and how they were very unconventional, when he started bringing his dom side into his relationships and what would go down, how and why he hated the bdsm clubs he went to early, how he would figure out if women were into being a sub or not, how he’s always identified as hetero and how he’s currently wanting to be more fluid and what he’s doing about it, how and why he tried being pegged for first time recently and how he felt about it, the bdsm party he attended that inspired him to start his own after party, how and why he started vetting out “takers” and how that changed the whole vibe of his parties, the sub he dated who helped him start and run its sex parties and how their relationship was set up, how he enjoyed training her to deep throat and what he loves so much about deep throating, the workshops they have at his sex parties and the kind of stuff they teach people, how more people have sex now at his parties then when he first started, how far he gets domming someone and the extreme things he’s into including, caning, deep throating, drool, drinking pee and more, how and why he decided to shut down his party for a few years and why he eventually decided to start it up again, the process of vetting people for his party and what you have to go through to get , the rules they have including the mandatory sti testing, the whole vibe of his party and ow and why that’s what has made his parties so successful plus a whole lot more. HIS NYC PARTY https://www.topfloorclub.com/ **To see a pic of ALAIN plus see pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://shop.butterwellness.com/pages/vday Get 20% off your The Perineum Massager by Butter Wellness. Go to butterwellness.com and use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20$ off your entire order https://beducate.me/anonymous2025 Use code anonymous To get an additional 10% off the campaign’s current discount - that’s 60% off Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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He explains that whole journey. He talks about how BDSM played into all of his relationships. And along the way, he had so many different experiences that we talk about. And eventually we get into his whole experience with throwing parties. He does currently throw a very high-end sex party. I think it's called the sex party called top floor in New York City. It is like the hottest party to get into in New York. That's what he does now. And we talk about that whole journey as well, how it fit into his BDSM life, when he started it, why he started it, how he ran it and why.

You know, he's very into the vibe of it. And he talks about how he vets people and what you got to do to get in, what goes down at the party and all that kind of good stuff. Like I said, it's a super interesting episode. You get his whole backstory and all the crazy BDSM stuff that he's into. And there's a lot of stuff that he's into. that's super interesting as well as his journey of starting his super great party that not only is just a party he actually the day before the party they run these workshops that is really interesting

he talks about the workshops and what they teach you all kinds of fun things like deep throading squirting squirting i don't know i think it's great that they have those workshops so all of his links to the stuff will be in the description but i'm going to get right to it and be right back on with alon hi allan welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast how are you today hi kathy how are you good now listen And Alon, I talked to your girl, Marz. She's someone you work with. You guys both started, or you started, a very famous sex party. What you could call it a sex party?

Or a sex club or a... Yeah, I mean, we tend to say play party, but it's certainly, it is a sex party. When people know what play parties, I think, well, it's a sex party. Yeah. In the city called Top Floor. Now, I already talked to your partner. I don't know who I'm airing first, but because both of you have, like, really salacious, like, backstories, you know, before you guys met.

And she came on and you guys started Top Floor again together. I decided to do you guys separately to get your backstory. Now, I know from you that there's some BDSM in your backstory and everything, like we'll eventually work up to the point where you get to Top Floor. I will let everybody know that, you know, the links to Top Floor, if people want to check out your party and they happen like now, like two times a month, right? Once a month. Once a month.

Well, if people want to go and check it out and everything, and because you're going to explain it all when we get to that time in your life, there will be links in the description. But let's like, so like that's where you're at now, right? Like you're a guy who runs this party. Are you really into BDSM? Is that like your thing? It's a big part of my thing.

It used to be my only thing, but now I have expanded my, my repertoire or my, you know, I'm more fluid in other ways. But yeah, I'm basically really, really kinky most of my life. Okay, so let's all that. All right, cool. So that's what, let's start with that. Like where, where? Where does that start?

Were you like a little kid that love to be like tied up? You know, I mean like quite too. No. So my first, yeah, my first memory of anything like this is when I was six years old. I remember tying up my sister's Barbie dolls. And I then put red marks on them like cane marks or something. And then I remember how pissed off she got about it. And I checked with her recently and she remembered that, she remembered that incident.

So that was sort of my first memory of it. Yeah. But I also, there was a TV show. I don't know if it's still on it called Batman and Roll. Robin, right? And that was always, and Catwoman was a total dominator. She had her slaves and she wore that ridiculous outfit. And they were always being bound and tortured in the most awful ways. I used to always fantasize about cat girl, I mean, bat girl, sorry, bat girl, and tying her up and doing terrible things to her. And that was sort of the, and I just sneak

off when I was really, I guess it was eight or nine years old. I remember sneaking off, I was watching TV that when my parents would come home. I'd run into the bedroom until that I was studying. I was just watching Batman and Robin and all that stuff. Getting aroused. Very early. Very aroused very early on, yeah. But you're the Dom in these scenarios, right?

That's who you are, right? Really from the get-go. From the gecko, a Dom and Asatus too. Oh, okay. And so explain like what Asatus is. Is that just somebody that loves to like inflict pain on others or see them in pain? Like, what is that really about? Yeah, yeah, that's actually a pretty good description for it.

At first it started off really around my desire to create that, but over time it's turned into finding partners who really enjoy the experience of pain and also the moment by moment being connected to each other that requires. I imagine as I'm doing something to someone, whether it's pinching her nipples really hard. I'm watching her face. I'm seeing the winces in her eyes. I'm seeing her breath. It's this deep connection together

through this experience that they are having and I'm connected to them and imagining very closely what they're experiencing. Yeah, that's so interesting. I mean, I remember talking to my first BDSM guy when I was doing my show

and it was around the time that that stupid book, 50 Shades of Gray, became really big, you know, and so I, being someone that was never into BDSM had really no clue about it, but I just thought it was like a second.

thing, right? And then when I had my first guy on, this BDSM guy, I forget what his name was, but he was on a bunch of times, I was really surprised to find out that it's so much more than just sex. There is a depth to it that I think, you know, is the big draw to the kind of people that get into it, right? Oh, for sure. And for the submissive in a scene, they can often go into subspace and have a transcendental experience. And the breathing is intense, the moment by moment exploration. Now, I, from the beginning, I knew I was different than most people in that field because, I don't know if I call it a field, but when I was growing up, it was much more the traditional dominant and there are rules and it's all structured. And I'm much more improvisational. I can't remember from one moment to the next what I did, you know, an hour ago. So I have to be in the moment, I'm much more into exploring how things go and where things are going, creating a dance with someone and responding to how to how it's going and what they're doing and just seeing where it goes. And I love that. about it. I never like to do the same thing twice. Yeah, but let me ask you this, because you are inflicting quote unquote pain on people. There does have to be some discussion ahead of time,

correct? Of course. Where the boundaries are and all that, correct? 100%. So for example, let's start with something like if I want to start slapping someone's ass or spanking their ass a little bit, I might say, okay, so I'm going to start with a light when I'll say, so what was that on a scale of zero to 10? Yeah. And they might say too and I'll say, okay, so what would be ideal for you is the max that you want to reach? And they might say, or seven. So then I'll check in with them on the next one. Then once I get the number right and I kind of, it's in sync with them,

then I can play with that. Now, that's just in terms of a specific impact play, we call that. But in general, finding out what someone's into, I am not into playing with someone unless it's really hot for them. So finding out what's hot for them and what their limits are and where they want to push things and what they enjoy the most and what gets them to come easily or what gets them to edge. Edging is so much fun too.

So that's another aspect of domination and sadism, which I love, which is taking someone really, really close to orgasm over and over again, or making it playing games. Like, for example, I might, and this isn't even, this is really not sadistic, it's just dominant. I might go down on a woman or have a vibrator on her, but the rule is if she shows any signs at all that she's enjoying it, any signs at all of this on her, then I would stop. So she has to totally control herself and it's like fighting herself to experience the pleasure and not experience it. And I love that delicious dilemma.

Yeah. So wait, let's go back to when you're younger. So you have all these little things going on, all these hints. It's obviously, I don't know, you're born in it, whatever. You have it, right, as a little kid. When do you start experimenting or it or bringing it into maybe your relationships with women? I don't know. How did you start living in life?

Sure. So I always looked much younger than I was. So when I was 18, I looked 13. Oh, that's funny. Nine. So my first sexual experience was when I was, when I was 13, I actually paid to go see a submissive sexual slave prostitute, a sex worker that had advertised in the local rag in Manhattan. And so my first time having sex and intercourse and playing with him was a paid submissive at 13 years old. And I remember, and I remember I was so timid because I really didn't know it was okay to like,

smack someone's ass. So the first time I tried her with her, I just tapped lightly. She really encouraged me to go harder and harder. And that was sort of the beginning of my experience. I'd say the first four or five experiences that I had were all professionals from the time I was 13 to 16. I didn't really have sex with a woman that I didn't pay for until I was 17 years old. But always, there were always elements of, from the beginning of being dominant, even though I initially shied away from, shied away from the, my strength in it. I took it very cautiously because I thought I was a bad guy. I thought there was not right to do what I was doing. But always, there were always elements of, from the beginning of being dominant, even though I initially shied away from,

shied away from my strength in it. I took, I took it very cautiously. Because I thought I was a bad guy. I thought it was, you know, it was not right to do what I was doing. Yeah, but you had balls. I mean, it was the Dom and you that, like, actually at 13 decided to pay a sex worker and go do that. I mean, like, I don't know many 13-year-olds that would do, you know what I mean, like would actually go through it and maybe they think about it. I mean, but like to really actually do it at 13 and show up to like a professional, I don't know, that takes balls. Yeah. It's a little crazy if you think about it, right? You ever look at Google a 13-year-old boy, you know what I mean?

And when you see that little kid online, you're going to be like the fact that the kid that's that age had the balls to go sort of. of do all that for yourself. I mean, you obviously had a real drive to get into sex, right? Like you said, you're really kinky at a young age. You were. Yeah, I don't think, I generally still, still at this age, I still master it once a day, at least. That's great. Right. Yeah. Okay, so you're fucking all these women, like you're going slowly, though, with them, right? Because you're 13 and, but this is something that you're into. So you're, like, playing with them in that way, like doming them a little bit when you're playing between 13 and 16. And then so 16, you fuck your first girls out when you lose your virginity to like a real like someone that's you're

not paying like a girlfriend or something yeah that was the first time and there was absolutely no BDSM at all it was just like I was I was so thrilled to have a real experience with someone yeah but I'd say it wasn't until my early 20s that I started putting it into my relationships right okay but it started more like with with rough sex like like like forcing deep throat or throat fucking someone or slapping their ass and stuff like that was how I had started. But then after a while,

I somehow always started attracting women that were both basicistic and submissive. They would just be drawn to me. And so I guess, you know, in my mid-20s, I started having really much more intense BDSM relationships where the play was edgy all the time. whether, and I just love to, yeah, there's so many different ways I can go with that. I don't know where you want to go. Well, no, I mean, listen, I always think that people could, like, some people think like it's all a coincidence that you mean people that are like exactly on the same page or as unavailable or as a kinky or as whatever as you are.

But I think we all smell that shit from a mile away, right? So you, you know, like attracts like. So, you know, you were finding your people early on. Now, did you ever, like in that time, like, did you ever get married or anything? Did you have long term relationships or were you just like, you just like, you were you just like? like interested in like seeing multiple people like how did you identify since you were like this super kinky person i got married but that wasn't until i was in my mid 40s oh okay so not till later yeah yeah that was until i had done a string of relationships uh that included bdsm type stuff in them yeah but were they non monogamous only like you know how were you rolling when it i was i was monogamous most of my life uh and certainly even monogamish especially in the in the in the in the BDSM relationships, she was my submissive, I was her Dom, and we would play with other people, but we wouldn't have relationships with other people.

We wouldn't have other lovers, per se. Right. So it was just more, and traditional BDSM was not very open. It was like, I'm your Dom and you have to ask permission of the Dom to play with the sub and all that kind of stuff. It's very different today than it was 20 years ago, 10 years ago. So when you got into it, this was a long time ago, you're still really young, let's stay there, right? you're now in your 20s or whatever, you know, are you like going to clubs? Are you finding your people? Are you just strictly doing it with like one-on-one with like the girls that you're dating?

Yeah, I was strictly doing it one-on-one because when I'd go to clubs, I was so disappointed in the caliber of the people and how dingy they were. I mean, we're talking about in the 80s and 90s. It was, they were dives. They were dirty. People weren't very attractive. They weren't people I wanted to even want to be friends with. it's a it's it was that that was part of the impetus for for creating my own party yeah yeah because because because i wanted to find a group of people that i for my caliber and not to

that that doesn't know that had all their teeth uh for example i got it yeah yeah back then it was very underground i mean i remember the city in those days you know so i could just you're talking new york city in that time are you here yes yes that's where you are right well new york city until and then and then san francisco for for 15 years oh okay and so where did you stop In 2011, you started top floor here or in San Francisco? Here in New York. Here, okay. And now, was this, and I'm going to get back to the chronological, but was this before

or after you were married? Before. This was after I was married. Oh, okay. So married, or while you're married, you start your party? No, I was married very briefly. Oh, okay. The story there was that I met a woman who had always fantasized about being submissive.

And it was a long-distance thing. She was in Europe. And we did a fiancee visa thing. And by the time she got here and we finally got married, she didn't want to do it anymore. And that was so important to what my sexuality, that it just didn't work out. And within a very short amount of time, we were like, this is not going to go anywhere. Yeah. So how did, though, you mean, was it just that you just like all the girls that you met were kind of like into the same thing like you said, like back in the day when there wasn't the internet?

You couldn't go on an app. You know, how are you fighting your people? Was it just luck? Well, so I met a woman on an airplane. on a trip to New York where we were flirting a little bit. And then I said to her, if you have to be in control in the bedroom, it's not going to work. Right. And that was, and she obviously got turned on by that.

And that was, so there are ways you can, I could, you know, figure out pretty quickly if someone was into it. Or it's just if I, if I'm kissing them and I then take their hand and put it behind their back, hold their arms behind their back, and they're into that. Or I pull their hair. I mean, there's so many different ways to get at least that the vibe is there. Yeah. So, yeah. if you're on the same page.

Yeah. Although it's also, it was really disappointing a lot of times because I'd find someone that I really, really liked in many ways, but they just weren't a good sexual fit. And that's partly why I've been working hard

to expand my sexuality the last year. Oh, that's interesting. You know, I so wish I was fluid in all the ways that you can be fluid sexually because all the adventures that I don't have because I'm not. So what are the things that you're not fluid in, that you wish you were?

Well, I'm still wondering if I have any by-side to me at all. I've always identified as heterosexual. I recently had a date set up with a man who was going to be very gentle with my first time just to see if it was even a turn-on for me. That day got postponed and it hasn't happened yet. So that's one element that I really would love to be fluid. And I think the ability to find a way, if it's possible for me, to be as turned on or at least turned on by men as women would make it a lot more fun to do what I do, for one. And certainly, the other fluid is around being submissive. I'd love to be able to really not just do it because I've done it many times, but to actually get rock hard from it, right? Right. It's one thing to do it and enjoy the experience you're giving someone else that they get to be dominant, but it's another thing to be like hard and about to come, right? Yeah, I got it. But like, listen, do you just think that there's not enough submissives out there that you've ran out of it, that you want to be like a switch? I feel like there's always going to be another one around the corner for you. It's funny. Maybe it's because of who comes to our parties and stuff, but almost everyone I know. know is fluid that way. There are very few pure submissives at our party. And so there's so many

opportunities to be with people that are, that play in different ways. And I want to be able to be fully. Right. So you meet the submissive ones, but they also want to be dumb sometimes and they want you to be more flexible and you're just not fluid that work. Right. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. And two weeks ago, I was pegged for the very first time. Oh, for the first time. I'm surprised. for the first time. Yeah. Yeah, I'd never really expressed my, my, I'd never really explored to express my, my, my, my g-spot, right? Yeah. So, so we actually, I don't know, at our, at our parties on Friday nights, we do workshops and we did a workshop about, I guess about eight months ago, so, which was discovering, exploring the male g-spot,

where we had two couples demonstrate the females basically playing with the males, and their g-spot, and their male G-spots. And I was like, God, I want to experience this, for sure. So I started, so I bought myself an anal probe and started experiencing that. And most recently took a pretty big dildo up my ass. And that was really fun to have that experience. Yeah, why not? Yeah. Yeah, that's so funny.

You know, I'm a big promoter of like anal play for guys. It's like ridiculous. I just feel like, you know, half the guys that say they would never actually are doing it all the time and I've been doing it since they're little. And half the guys would never fucking go there. And it's so dumb because, you know, all assholes are made alike. And there's a lot of nerves in there. And if you just get over whatever that stigma is in your head, like guys would find it super pleasurable.

I'm a three and girl, I love it. So I'm always like pushing people. A three infant, is that what you said? Yeah, yeah. And Better Wellness is a big sponsor of mine. I should get them to like, maybe you could work with them with your party and stuff because they're big proponents of like, you know,

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Did you have one yet? Like, have you had a prostate orgasm? I haven't had one yet. So now I'm, I'm even more excited about them. Oh, my God. You'll know because it's like they say literally, like every single guy, the way they explain it is like it's all over. It's like an all over body thing. And it's kind of like squirting, I think, in that like once you could figure out how to do it,

you could do it. You know what I mean? You just got a get it. And sometimes it takes a while. you know, but I love that you were open to it. I'm surprised it took you so long. Yeah, I'm, yeah, it's taken me longer than I had opened. I was very fixed in my dominance and hetero ways and didn't, and I even had the misconception

that somehow having something in my ass met I was less of a man, right? Yeah, isn't it? And I say this and I don't care that people have heard it 10,000 times, but I'm just going to give my little analysis because somebody did say on my show one time recently about a guy that was getting fucked in the ass by his wife or something. And he's like, oh, that's like, you know, one step away from being, you know, being with a guy. I'm like, really? Like, so lesbians are like fucking their girlfriends all the time with drop-ons.

Do you think they're one step away from going and fucking a guy? I don't think so. No fucking way. Okay? It's not going to happen. It doesn't happen the opposite either. It's so stupid, you know? But yeah, it's surprising because you sound so open-minded, especially when it comes to sex.

But it seems like maybe you just like really lived in that world and were just like into your domping and having so much fun that you didn't try all these other things. And for the first. For a five-year chunk of time during the party, I was dating like my perfect submissive, you know, slave war collar all the time. And we just had, it was the most incredible sex. So incredible, so often that I didn't need to do anything else. It was just so hot. Does Valentine's Day have better sex with Blue Chew? Blue Chew is a unique online service that delivers a chewable tablet at a fraction of the cost. Blue Chew is the original. Blue Chew is the original.

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It was just so hot. Well, let's get to that point where you start your party and how and why. Yeah, let's get there. Yep. Okay. So it happened. So in 2010, she, this. this woman and I, it was this perfect partner for me, we got invited to a party put on by

New York Fedest Tribe, which puts on and still puts on public play parties, BDSM parties. And at the time, 2010, by far the best thing going on. It was like the crowd was hip, it was young, attractive people. And they had really put together some good principles for how to have a great party. So we went to the party and within a couple weeks, two of the guys running the party showed up in my office because they wanted to work for me. and I thought, well, that would be really fun to go from not really having any presence in the New York scene or the party scene to being in the center of these great parties. So I hired them, and for the first year, I used to run all their after parties. And I thought this is going to be a great opportunity to experiment with some concepts I want to try out.

The first concept was what would happen if you don't invite any takers to a party? What does that mean? I mean people, so people that, yeah, people that don't have the best interest in mind. They're either really selfish or at the extreme maybe their sociopaths or psychopause. They're basically not interested in the well-being of others. Right. Right. And it's a small percentage of the population, but they mess it up for everybody else.

Yeah. And by not having them around, by like not inviting them, but also throwing them out when we found out they were takers, it made the vibe so much better. And I put the vibe at the center of everything for these after parties. And the after parties immediately got the reputation of being incredible. People would be like, how do you create such a great vibe? So a year later, the opportunity came up to throw a hotel party. And the guys running the fed of tribe were all married and they didn't want to do a Saturday night party. And I was like, okay, I'm going to jump in and do this.

And right away, we use that principle. We just reversed a lot of the typical ways that people throw parties. We don't do gender pricing differentials. We don't have any planned performances. entirely improvisational. So we create a frame for people to have a great time and then we kind of unleash everybody. Right. And it, so that happened in 2011. But were you with that girl at the time? Like, were you at her start? Okay. Yes. Yes. We were there and we were there for the first three or four years of the party as well. Where did you meet her? I met her when my wife and I went to

play with another friend and his submissive and that was a submissive. And interestingly enough, Well, interestingly enough, my wife, and my wife that night had an intuition. She was like, you're going to be with that woman. I was like, no, I'm not. No, I'm not. But this woman was such a perfect match for me. So I met her that night. And then when my wife and I broke up a few months later, that's when we started dating.

But wait, did you guys have a threesome with her? You all hooked up? Like, what went down? Yeah, it was a foursome. It was a foursome. Okay, well, that's like an interesting story. He should say that sentence. Yeah, we all had a foursome.

That's how you met her. That's kind of interesting. With your wife. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. Did your wife ever find out? I mean, I'm sure she did. I mean, because she did sort of guess out. Absolutely. Right. Absolutely. She found out. Yeah. Yeah, she knew. She was like, she was right. She did have the intuition. She was right. Okay. So she was throwing the parties with you. Yep. She was throwing parties with me. She added so much to the attention, the detail that we put into it and taking care of people. I mean, she's such a woman in terms of needing everything in the bathroom to be comfortable at a party, whether it's the cotton balls for the makeup and the hairspray. And so, you know, so she was so instrumental that way. But from a sexy perspective, we would, we would almost always play at the parties. And it was just great to have my submissive, my slave submissive at the party.

Now, when you have a submissive as a dom, like, do you want her to go fuck other people? Is she just yours? Is she only allowed to fuck women? Like, I mean, is it a setup kind of a thing? Or like, how does it work in your relationships with your sub? Well, that's changed over time. Right. Let's say with her.

Now, with her, I was much more protective and insecure initially. Oh, okay. I didn't want her to play with others unless I would be there and I would orchestrated and I would make sure she was safe. And, I mean, she's so submissive that she didn't, I was concerned that she wouldn't be safe with others unless I was around. But also I was, I was insecure and had some jealousy stuff going on. So I think I operate very differently today than I would back then. Right. So with her, but you would set up her to play with other guys and stuff like that.

I mean, you did have an open kind of relationship. One of the things I love to do with her was to train her to deep throat. And I trained her deep throat. And she even had TMJ when I first, was it TMJ? Yeah. When I first met her, I'm like, we'll fix this. We'll handle this. And having trained her, then, it always was fun to have to see what she could take and how much you could do.

That's hilarious. I think you should teach those classes because I'm always like, you know, there's certain party tricks that you just want to have, like, in your back pocket. I don't necessarily think you have to deep throat to get someone good head. But, like, I think it's fun to show someone that you can. Like, it's just, like, fun to know. And I don't know how. And I'm like, you should, like, teach that class at your next party.

How to fucking deep throat. It's good. I think a lot of people want that. It's like squirting, you know. You just want to know you could do it. Yeah. Squirting's the next one. Deepthroding is one after that.

Yeah. Oh, you're doing a squirting one? So actually, the very next one is, is, cunulings. Okay. And bars is teaching that in a couple of weeks. And then we're going to just squirting one after that. Oh my God. Then do deep throading.

I think that's a good one. And then do deep throating. Deep throwing is a little bit of a challenge because while you're narrating it, it's hard for the demos to keep it up. Yeah. No, it's hard for them to keep it up. Or to talk as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So when they see these way real quick, though, so these, what is it called? Courses. Workshops? Yeah, workshops. Yeah, workshops. Sorry. These workshops that you're having, it's like why you're seeing the action, right?

Like, that's what goes down on these workshops. Like if I'm taking the squirting thing, someone's going to be up there getting someone to squirre or the, let's say the going down one, the connollingus one. Yes, that'll certainly be the culmination, the highlight of the workshop. And we're going to have an iPhone capturing and projecting it onto the big screen so everyone can be seeing it really easily. Because, you know, you don't often get a close-up look of how to do it well and being taught that way. Yeah, I think it's important. So I love that you guys do that for your party. Now, when did you come up with stuff like that?

Did you come up with like workshops and everything with these parties back in the? those days when you were starting the party or was, were you just doing the parties back then? No, no, even back then, we would always have a Friday night or we'd also have a Friday night before the Saturday night. Oh, really? Only did people come into the Saturday night, but we'd do workshops. In fact, we did a squirting workshop, I think, back in 2013 or so. Oh, wow.

Yeah. So Kenneth Play got his start at Top Floor. I don't know if that's, I mean, he's like a big squirting guy and his very first workshop was a top floor. Oh, wow. So back in that day, it started at this one place, right? Yeah. Yeah, we've actually been holding it since 2011 the same exact hotel penthouse suites for all these years. And they know what we're doing. They love us. We take good care of them. And it's been an amazingly lucky and beautiful relationship with the hotel. And now back in those days, how many people would show up like in the beginning? Did it quickly catch on because you had such a good vibe? Yeah, yeah. I think our very first one was 80 and then within a year we were at maybe 200 and then within three years. We actually maxed out of 300 people at the parties. Now we can't have more than

200 people because people like to have sex a lot more than they did back then. Back then it was just great to be there for a lot of people. They were out to show up and see some people having sex. But with the vertical space being, I mean the horizontal space being more limiting, now 200 is the cap. Oh, wow. Because people are getting it on more so nowadays than back then? Oh, much more. Why do you think? It's a great question. And I don't really, I think there's such a, there's such a vibrant play community in New York, especially since COVID ended, or since COVID, that people just don't want, most people don't go to a play brand unless they're planning on to play. Yeah.

Whereas back then, it was still, maybe I'll meet someone, maybe I'll play. I'm happy to just go to a sexy party and see others play and engage in great conversation. They're great people here. So, yeah, it's just, it's just become more standard. Right. Now, you said you did play with your girl at the parties and stuff. You would be able to enjoy yourself, even though this is your party and, like, you would get to dom some people or you're submissive while you're there?

For the first two, three years, I was like, I'm not going to throw the best or one of the best parties in New York and not have fun at it. I was like, there's no way I'm going to do that. It's too much work. I'm going to let cut loose. But then I learned a valuable lesson that I was over partying and I had to really stay on top of it. And when we brought the party back two years ago, because we took a break, when we brought the party back in 2021, 2002, I didn't play at all.

In fact, this last weekend, two weekends ago was the first time. that I had someone else run production on Saturday so I could do other things and go to dinner and then show up at the party. And I had a great time. It was the most time. I played three different times. We actually initiated the top floor squirt tub club, which was, so we had squirtmasters, me and someone else were squirtmasters and we had three women and that we were all squirting into the big master bathroom hot tub as a, as a, as a, actually. activity. So that was really fun to do. What was that called again? I like it. It's a tongue twister. The top floor squirt tub club. Squirt tub club. I love that. Oh, my God, that's great. So you're

going to have that at every party, the squirt tub club? It happens. It's always organic, but hopefully, hopefully I'll get to do it again and that'll become a thing. So when you're back in that day with that girl, how long were you with her for and how long did she run the parties with you? And then how did it end and why? So the so so she I was with her for five years Starting about a year before the parties and maybe three or four years into the party The the she let's see how do I want I don't want to it'll be obviously she so I don't want to put but but There were oh I'll just go ahead and say it there were some since abuse challenges and and I and I yeah I couldn't like over time I just couldn't and I and back then there was a there was a sense of

and dominance back like 20 years ago that, oh, if you had someone that had some substance issues, you could dominate them to get over their addictions. And that's just ridiculous. Yeah, of course not. Unfortunately, because that would be great if that worked. Yeah, wouldn't it, right? Yeah, yeah. Because it's really up to the person, unfortunately, you know? And for me, I also, I was projecting it all onto her. I had my own stuff to work on. Yeah. And my own addictions and my addiction to pornography and my addiction. So I was like making her the problem and I realized that that was just a substitute for me. me looking and looking at myself.

Yeah, we do that all the time, right? That's a very common thing. So when she left your life, did you tend to your stuff? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I'm still tending to my stuff. I mean, it's an ongoing thing, but it's a, I've always done a lot of work on myself and strive to find just ways to heal and grow always.

Yeah, don't you think, maybe you feel, like, because I'm the same way, but I think it's because I really believe, like, that's what we're here for. Like, that's what life is, right? so as long as you're alive, like that's what you're doing, growing, changing, taking things on, fixing yourself bettering, move on, next thing, bring it on, you know what I mean? And you could keep doing that until you die. Like, that's the fucking purpose. I think some people reach a certain age and they're like, oh, I'm done.

You know what I mean? It's like, not really. I mean, I think as long as you're alive, that shit should be going down. You know, that's what it's all about. So when she, so she broke up and so then you're running the party by yourself back then. Yeah. I was always running it.

I mean, she wasn't really functioning to the point of being able to run a party. But yeah, but she was great to have her out and great as my, as my, she was almost like my private porn actors. Yeah, there you go. But I mean, listen, I mean, after she left your life, you have these parties and then did you, like, continue to date people or were you like single because you had these parties and you always have like kind of action going down? Oh, no, I continued.

And I continued to date people and I fell in love a couple of times. And I did someone else for the last year of the party, who was also submissive. And we played mostly that way. And yeah, no, yeah. So I mostly did that. But I tended to go back and forth between falling in love with women who really weren't sexually good matches with me. Oh, that's interesting.

And then having relationships with women who were, but I wasn't necessarily as in love with the women that were like great sexual matches. So that was always a frustrating thing for me, which is also why I wanted to become more flexible. Wait, I'm confused. So this is how it worked for you. Like the women that weren't so great sexually with you were the ones you could fall in love with and the ones who you were like the perfect match with, those were the women that you

couldn't become fully, like you couldn't, you didn't fully love them. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. It's kind of interesting. Well, I don't know if that's, the way I used to think about it, and I don't know if this is a true, but I used to think about it is I was really attracted to hot messes and the hot messes that were submissives were just incredibly fun, but they never were great relationship material. Yeah, well, that makes sense. So, yeah.

So you could never fully go there. Yeah, exactly. So they were very appealing, though, and of course you were always attracted to them. It was super hot. Yeah. But you did, so you did date women, though, that weren't submissive and tried that. Yes, I did. Yeah, and had that work for you.

It was frustrating because I would still, I feel unfulfilled, and they knew that I wasn't completely letting go, and it wasn't quite, you know, so, yeah. And, and yeah, and I have, you know, I have a lover today who I adore, but we're not, we're not, sexually fully aligned and that's frustrating. Well, let me ask you this. Do you have an open relationship where I was? Because like I talked a lot of open, people who are in open marriages, especially couples who have been together for a very long time eventually open.

And what they, a lot of times come to realize and what they've said, which I think is super interesting and very true really is like, you know, they eventually realize because eventually a lot of them start to play solo, you know, because it's hard to get a four-way connection and they play solo. And then they come to realize, like, you know, they could go do the certain things that their husband or their wife is not into, they could go do with their other partner and have it done. Isn't that beautiful? Yeah, exactly. And they say, like, what's great about that is, like, you just really realize, like, there's never going to be that perfect person out there that gives you

every single thing that you want. So if you have that freedom to go get, like, that one thing that you're into that, that other person doesn't, why not, you know? So that partner that you have now, are you guys open where you can go get the things that, you know, that she doesn't bring to the table? You could go do that. Oh, oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And I think, you know, and she's really more of a, like, a really, really dear friend and a lover. Right. It's how we think of each other. And for me also, you know, from getting to, I am so amazed by the female by the pussy.

And it's such a miraculous thing and so mysterious and so, and having a woman come and and convulse and and continue shaking and shaking. It's just one of those beautiful things to experience, which is something I rarely experienced as the dominance and the sub because they tended to, I just never seem to, they somehow didn't own as much of that in terms of their own body as a woman that I dated. So this is a much more, this has been a great experience for me around, around being with someone who's so womanly and so in touch with their own body. And she's submissive, this one, right? No, no, she's not. Oh, she's not. She has that's what she doesn't bring. Okay, but that's the big thing she doesn't bring. So that's kind of a big thing because that is a big part of your life.

Well, actually, so she's submissed, but she doesn't, there's no impact play. There's no, there's things that she just doesn't, doesn't enjoy at all. And so, of course, we're not going to go there. Yeah, I got it. I was going to ask you, that was going to be one of my questions before I asked you a million questions about your party, was like, you know, how far do you take your Dom role? Like, what are you into? Like, you know, where's your limits or, you know, how far do you go? What do you into?

That's a great question. And so I'd say at the extreme, I really enjoy having a submissive drink by pee. That's interesting. Yeah. And there's quite a few people that love doing that. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah.

So I love that. I love predicament. So for example, if I can have a woman with her nipples with clothespins on and then they're attached with a string and then there's a rope that is pulling. that overhead so she has to stand on her toes. And so she asked at some point decide if she's going to pull them off herself or just, you know, yeah, pull them off herself or just keep up there as long as she can, you know, getting her more and more on her tippy toes.

I think it's just so hot to see someone in a challenging situation like that. But so that's one aspect. I love certainly prolonged like, like, like, dildo deep throading is super hot. I used to be known as Genghis cane in the years because I used to have a pretty big cane connection, a collection and loved the sound of a cane, leaving welts on someone's bottom. I don't think that any of that stuff is too extreme.

I think the drinking of the pee is a little extreme, but I mean, I just did a poll on my Patreon, like, you know, are you into water sports? And I heard a lot of different things that people are into. And I do know people are, of course, obviously into it. There's like a, you know, there's tons of that porn online. but I think that's a little extreme, right? Yeah, I guess so.

And I'm referring back to the woman that I dated at the beginning of top floor. She actually much preferred the taste of her ass over the taste of her pussy. Interesting. Okay. And so we had so much anal sex and so much ass to mouth. And so it was like fantastic. It was so fucking awesome. All right.

That's interesting too. So you're like into stuff like that. Yep, yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. and tough bondage positions and forcing someone to, for example, like hold their mouth open and not move at all as I move my cock in and out of their throat

in their mouth. And just getting to be so still and so in the moment as the drill comes out, I love drool too. Oh, that's why you love the deep-throating thing because you've brought that up a lot of times, right? That's definitely a big thing for you. And is it the drool? Drill is definitely part of it. We actually, you know, at top floor, at top floor, like a drill pool. Well, about a year ago, a couple of women that were volunteering were like,

hey, let's go do a scene. What do we want to do? And I forgot who suggested it, but what they ended up doing is they recruited two other women to wear strap-ons. And they found a double-ended dildo, and they were ass-to-ass. So pussy to pussy with their dildos, they were on all fours, and they were each being face-fucked on opposite sides. by the two women with the strap-ons with a bowl underneath them to cat and they were having a competition for who to catch the most the most drool.

Oh. So I don't know if I described that in a way that you can imagine. Yeah. But yeah. They're like almost airtight. Are they airtight? Am I getting that right? Like they're all holes filled?

It was just pussy and mouths. The double dildo was in their pussy. I thought they're. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah.

Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. And that was like a contest. Yeah. Yeah, it was a contest. He would come up with most drool. Yeah.

Yeah, that's so interesting that you like drool. Like, how do you figure that out? I mean, it's just something I guess you figured out over time. Like all these, like, it's like very specific things that you're into. Yeah, you know, so very recently had a partner who heard her drool land on the floor. Yeah. And which, and it really got her hot. And she had no idea that would get her hot.

So that's like, yeah. Well, like, listen, we're going to have to see whether you're going to have to let me know whether you get into the guy on guy action. because you're deciding to try that, right? You never tried it. You don't know how you're going to feel, right? Never tried it. I was deep throwing a dildo the other day, and I have a lot more compassion for first-timers who are trying to take something back.

Now, like, oh, okay, maybe I should have been a little bit less. Yeah. That's hilarious. Yeah, that's so funny. All right, so let's get to your party. So, you know, after she leaves, at what point, though, did it shut down and why? And then how many years was it shut down before you started back up again? Sure.

So we went 2011. to 2016. At the end of 2016, I was done. I was like, I'm done. I thought I would make of the party again. You know, so because we would, because we would remove people who were not good for the vibe, because it was at the time one of the most sought after parties, and it was a secret, it was totally top secret for all those years. We, I pissed off a lot of people. Oh, interesting. Okay. And I would often go out to other parties and some people would threaten me. and it was always amazing that no one sued me or attacked me, but no one did. But the drama, the drama and all the, and there was also a lot of toxic male,

toxic masculinity at our parties by the end of 2016. And it just felt, it just didn't feel, I don't know, it just didn't feel good to me anymore. And I was getting burned out on it. And it was a hobby. It was no business. I was doing as a hobby. And it was a tremendous amount of work. I mean, everything was so customized, so many hours to put into it.

And so I just wasn't enjoying anymore. So I gave up and I thought I'd never do it again. And I went off and did two other big projects in my life. And then, fast forward to 2021, I was sitting there going, well, what do I want to do next? And really, throwing this party was the most fun I ever had in my life. The impact you have on people's lives, the kinds of people I sit across from on interviews who are some of the most amazing people I'm getting to meet in this process. It's just such a fantastic thing to do.

and I thought, okay, let me just bring it back. So I brought it back to turn it and see if I can make it into a business. We opened it up to the public because back in 2016, there wasn't the acceptance yet in the culture enough to have it be open and be known. Now we can be open. And there are many play parties in New York. There must be like 30 or 40 named play parties in New York or ticketed play parties in New York, regular ones. So it just became time to bring it back and open it up.

So that's what we did. it. And that's when Mars came into the picture. I thought it'd be impossible to bring the party back after a five-year hiatus. But the principles all still work. And we vet, I think probably Mars mentioned this too, but we vet so carefully. So everyone that comes to the parties has been on a 30-minute Zoom call with us. And that's only after we've seen their applications. And we say, yeah, they're likely to be a good fit. So maybe one and four people who apply get in. Oh, wow. That's crazy.

So that means three. Don't get in. Yeah. Okay, so like walk me through that because you just said, oh, you know, I've sat across from like super interesting people. You have these great interviews, you know, I would love that job, right? Because I love talking to people. But, you know, what is that process? Like, what do I have to fill out first?

Like, what are some of the questions on there that will even get you? Like, do people sort of fall out even after that first thing that they sign up for? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They typically fall out by the interview. No, we don't want to interview people unless we think there's a good chance that we're going to accept them. Oh, okay. So it's that first thing you send that the three drop off typically. Exactly.

And we, we, we, we, we, more than I look at it as we want to only, this is a community where we want people that are going to be our friends or are going to be our lovers. So that's really the criteria. And so we look at, are they interesting? Are they someone I'd want to have a conversation with or on other stuff? Yeah. Because this isn't just, this isn't a swinger party where people just go and have a transactional sex. And that's not really only what swing a party. are but but there's a there's a community and people these are friendships these are life lifetime

friendships people get married people have kids that meet at our party so it's really about building something sustained that's going to keep growing over time that are people that are people that are and keeping the bad people out so the interview is really essential to making sure none of the takers get in but the but the but the application's pretty short but we want to we want to kind of see what someone what someone is what they what experience they have if someone's coming for the first time to a play party, then we certainly, they have to be really desirable because there's a risk involved there. There's a lot of factors that go into it.

But so we sort of just, we, we get the applications. We rank them on a scale of six and up. And right now we're basically only interviewing sevens, eights and nines. Wow. And now let me ask you this. Is there a picture that needs to be sent? So we don't ask for pictures, but we do ask for social. And if someone doesn't provide a social, but they're, but they have good references from other

people in the community, then we'll still interview them and go from there. So looks is important, but it's not the, it's not the, it's not the only thing that's important. I mean, there are plenty of sexy people that have different body types and different looks. Of course. But certainly physical attractions is part of it. I mean, no one wants to admit it, but, you know, yeah, you need to have attractive enough people at a party to make it work. Yeah, of course. Of course. And people want to know that. Like, you know, right? It's not like they want, it's like when you said you were going to those clubs back in the day. Like that was the worst part of it. Like there was nobody there attracted to. I mean, what's the fucking point? The toothless thing was definitely a thing. So do you ask people their age?

Like what's like what are a couple of the questions that are on that? We don't ask their age. The questions are, gosh, I don't have in front of me, the questions generally tell us a little about yourself and, you know, why this is something you're interested in right now in your life at this point. What previous experiences do you have at play parties, if any? What other artistic communities or art communities are you part of? Whether it's, have you been the Burning Man? and the house of yes, et cetera. And, yeah, how they found out about the party. So it's just a pretty short list of questions.

Maybe it's a five-minute, ten-minute thing to fill out. Right, if that. And then if they pass that, then they get that interview with you. And that's a Zoom thing where you see people, right? Yep, yep. We spend 30 minutes with them. We asked, before they get to the interview, they have read our really extensive rules and recommendations.

And it's like a 10-page document. And they would have had to have proved that they read it because we hide an extra word in there that they had to find when they read it. And then on the call, which March says most of the calls. But she tests them on it. So she quizzes them on it. Wait, do they know ahead of time that there's going to be a secret word? Because this is what I do to my assistant if he does something to me.

I tell them. I'm going to fucking quiz you after so I know you did the work. You know, I think that's smart. But they know ahead of time? They know. They know. Yeah. Oh, my God.

And give me a couple of your rules that are. on there? Like give you your top five? Well, confidentiality is super important. Okay, I love that. In terms of making sure that all the details of the party, the people there, everything has to be completely respected so that it can maintain the privacy of the party, for sure. There's no photography, allowed at all during the party. You can't have your phone out at all during the party to protect people's privacy. So that's all around privacy. Around safety, we have a medic on site full time in a back room just in case we ever need them. We hope we never need them,

but they need to know that there's a medic there and how that works. Yeah, I love that. You know, it explains about the rules of consent. We go through all the, what explicit in these acts of consent is, you know, that's continuous and it's revocable. We share how to reject people gracefully. Love that. That's all really important.

That stuff is really important because I think, you know, if you're a newbie, you have no clue. I've always, you know, when I have people on who run swinger parties, those are always the most interesting facts I hear because, you know, I don't have never been to Swingers Club. I don't know how it works, you know, but there is a way, you know, and how consent works in there. And it's much, and it's actually super important. So I think that stuff, that information is important for people to have. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And yeah.

And another thing we do is we use the traffic light system, which is the red, yellow, green. Mm-hmm. I think it came from BDSM. Essentially is, if you check in with someone and they say, green, that means all good. If they say yellow, it means let's pause. If they say yellow out of the blue, then let's pause and find out what's going on. And if they say red, it means absolutely stop whatever is going on right now.

Oh, wow. So everyone's given the rules like that's what, that's how, that's like the code for everybody. That's the code for everybody at the party. Absolutely. Oh, I like that. That's so it's easy. Yep. Yeah.

Okay. So if they may, so then after that interview, you let them, I mean, by the time they're at the interview, are they like in if they want to be in? is or do you still vet after that? By the time at the end of the interview? Yeah, like that, I mean, do you ever like talk to people, look at them and then like two weeks later they get, oh, by the way, you're not invited? I mean, we have some.

It's like harsh. No, well, so we definitely reject people that we, that we talk to. And that's a hard, and when you know at the beginning of the call that, oh, my God, I know, it makes the call a little bit painful. Yeah. And we can't really explain why we reject people because then that would get into a whole other, you Yeah. Just a bottomless pit there.

And there are some, yeah, so, but generally we tend to want to accept everyone by the time they get to the interviews because that is such a painful way to reject people. It's much easier to just ignore an application you get. Yeah, of course. Because you're not interested in it, then it is to, you know, take the time. Someone's read the rules. They're excited about coming and then suddenly they don't get to come. Yeah.

But people have been taken very, very graciously, thankfully. Yeah. And now, so because you do all this work and you have all this experience, I'm assuming that everything in that document is there for a reason and you learned all of that stuff over time. You know, when you show up to this party, is it like the best fucking party ever because everyone's like so super cool? Like explain the vibe that you create. Yeah, no, I think for sure. I think the character of the people is so good.

We also have mandatory STI testing now that we started two parties ago. That means everyone coming in has had a SDI test. Yeah, within three months of the party, it's not. You can't make a safe party, but you can make it safer. Yeah. And so everyone's required to show, to upload their documents for their tests. And that also has up-level the crowd. There's a lot more, you know, you have a lot more responsible people that really care about the well-being of others and themselves in the room.

Because like they're not as much as everyone says, oh, yeah, we get tested all the time. We tend to have some cognitive dissonance around, oh, I thought it was recent, but in fact, it was really only, it was really six months ago that I got tested. I thought it was three months ago, right? It's so easy to, because no one really enjoys the process of getting tested. But this way, we, you know, and it's a, by the way, I don't know if it's, it's a membership club. So, but when they finish the interview and we accept them, we then invite them to join the membership club, and they get a free trial of the club through a week after their first party. And after that, it starts at $75 a quarter if they pay a quarter lease or annually, and it's a sliding scale thing.

But they get membership cards, and their membership cards, on their Apple digital wallets have their SDI test date on them. Oh, so that's right there. They can, it's right there, and they can also use it if they have other partners. They can show other partners. They're validated SDI. Yeah, that's great. Now, do you accept single women, single men, couples, like all of the above?

Like, you're not, and are there any, I'm assuming there's no, like, age, I mean, well, I'm sure there's age limit. Yeah. Well, there's 25 and over only. Okay. That's a policy. It's not a hard rule. We've had a couple of exceptions, but we generally don't.

find that people need to be at least 25 to have the maturity to come into this kind of space. Makes a much safer party. And then as far as age limits, 60s is probably the oldest that we have. Although that might change soon. But yeah, the next party. But so there's that that's aged. Certainly single men and single women. We're much more careful with single men that they're going to be able to behave well because it's incredibly stimulating environment. And when you're there and your dance. By the way, when you show up there, it's a high-end black-tie creative party. You can't tell that it's a play party. It looks like a high-end cocktail party. It's the top suites, been incredible views, you know, food and two open bars, et cetera. And then suddenly

an hour later, you might look around it, and a whole bunch of people have started having sex. And then an hour later, like, oh, my God. So it can be really overstimulating all the activities that's going on. So for a single male, it's important that they're ready to just come in and just learn the first time and just make friends and connect and if it's their first time ever coming to a play party. Right. And do you feel like you vet so well at this point that you're pretty good at weeding everyone out beforehand that you don't typically have problems? No, I mean, we sometimes have parties with no problems at all, but we often have parties where maybe one person has gotten or two years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, especially because we go

till seven in the morning. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it can get a little dicey a little bit at times. But generally we're, we, most recently we had no, no visible lack of sobriety, which is so important. You can't have consent if people are not sober. Loaded. Yeah, totally. I agree. Yeah, I love it. Give it all your information of where people can find you, how they start the process.

Sure, sure. I'll put, uh, just so people know that are driving or whatever, you don't need to remember shit. I'll put like a link directly to your website in the description. But give out your shout out. Thank you. Sure. Yeah. So it's top floorclub.com.

Topfloor club.com is the website. The Instagram is the website. is the top floor club. And those are really the easiest ways. If you go to the website, there's a link to fill out the form to request invitation. And it's as simple as that. There you go. And this takes place in New York City.

Do you have out-of-towners that sign up because they travel a lot? Like, how does that work? Yeah, probably 10% or so of our participants come from all over the world, actually. Yeah, yeah, I can imagine. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. So listen, Alon, I love your whole story.

It's super interesting. I'm sure a lot of my people listening are going to want to check out. your party. It sounds great. Do they see pictures or do you have like or I guess there's no pictures, right? So like you can't. There's no, there's no picture. It's all in our imaginations. Yeah, yeah. That's fun. We never got into love as my religion by the way, which is a whole other element of all this. Is that a part of your club story? Story, personal story or part of it? Yeah, it's part of my personal story, but also I think people often said to me, you know, this is more than a sex party. This is a love party. And I think there's so there's, and it's also my personal story of crazy ass

experience I've had with bringing an energy of love into sexuality. No, but I love that. That's just like a little tagline for the, for the whole vibe of your party. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

That's good. That's a good way to end it, I feel like. What's that sentence again? Love is my religion. Yeah, love is your religion. Yeah. There you go. That's the top floor.

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