Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1067 - FETISH FRIDAY: All About Pantyhose and Guys Who Wear Them w/Robert Safko from Shapings.com

Episode Date: March 21, 2025

How can Hosers (aka guys who have a pantyhose fetish) can properly buy, wear, size and take care of their pantyhose? Well Robert Safko, CEO and owner of Shapings.com called in to talk all about it.  Tune in to hear all the details including  how tons of guys wear pantyhose and how and why they’re should’t feel self conscious about it, the four things guys look for the most when buying hose, how and why guys look mostly for glossy hose and which brand is offers the best glossy hose, the top brands that offer the best functional/durable hose, the three brands that make great Compressions hose that will fit guys, his fave seamless hose brands and why he likes them the most, how he properly sizes guys for pantyhose and the specific info that’s key to getting it right, what a Cetme is and how it is used in sizing, fave brands that carry a ton of sizes for men and why, the best brand for glossy hose hands down, how t how to care for you hose to make them last the longest and how and why storing them in their package is best way keep track of your hose, how to put them in to avoid runs, how and why the internet has helped guys purchase hose,  why guys who wear pantyhose shouldn’t ever feel shy about calling up and buying hose from Robert plus a whole lot more.  **To see anonymous a pics of my female guests + get TONS of exclusive CROSSDRESSER and or HOSER episodes and content + hear all the anonymous confessions, join my Patreon Crossdresser tier it's only $8 a month for Hosers and $10 a month for crossdressers (you get also get Hoser episodes too!) and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://butterwellness.com/ For 20% off your Butter Wellness perineum massager use code STRICTLY https://beducate.me/march2025 Use code anonymous to get an additional 10% off the campaign’s current discount - that’s 60% off Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's just, you know, my hosers are guys who have a fetish for panty hose. I do have extra episodes over their exclusive episodes that have never been aired anywhere. But I love to have a fetish Friday episodes for hosers too. And this is one that I typically would have kept in the bag for my Patreon. But I decided to put it out there because there are so many hosers that aren't signed up that need this information. And I am talking to Robert from shapings.com. Robert Safko. He knows everything about pantyos you will not believe. I mean, this guy travels the world. It goes to the factories, knows the people that run the place, has major relationships with

them. He owns Shapings.com, which was like a brick and mortar store and then became like an online business. He carries so many different brands. He knows his shit when it comes to panty hose. I'm talking to him about buying pantyhose for hosers who buy pantyos. That's what we're talking about here. How to buy pantyhose. Where to buy pantyhose. What to think about sizing. Den, the types of things that most guys look for in hose, the brands that he recommends, how to size properly, how to put on properly, how to care for them properly. This is all you need to know about buying and wearing pantyhose for yourself or for your partner. Robert, like I said, ownshapings.com.

You can get really great pantyos over there. Plus, he sells to guys all the time. He's used to it. We talk all about that on the show. too, so I'm basically spoon-feeding you a place where you could go as a guy and call up or email and say, hey, I'm a guy who wears hose. You know, what are the best types of pantyhose to buy? He gives you so much information on this episode. If you need more information, you could, of course, go to his website, shapings.com. That will be in the description. But you're going to love this

conversation. It's very specific to guys wearing panty hose and all the information you need. So I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Robert. Hi, Robert. Welcome to the Strictly anonymous podcast, Robert from Shapings.com, Robert Safgo. How you doing today? Robert? I'm doing great, Kathy. How are you? I'm good. I'm excited to have you on because who better to talk about men in hose, who I call hosers, who better to talk to than you. I mean, I love talking to you about pantyhows. You own Shapings.com, which is like a worldwide panty hose, like online, panty hose shop, right? It didn't start online, right? It was like a retail store that you had. And then it went into that. And you talk to guys all over the world, send panty hose to guys all over

the world. We all know that guys wear pantyhose and that's what we're going to talk about here, you know, and the people that are going to be tuning in will be hosers, right? We're going to talk about, you know, how, listen, I think that maybe some guys that have a pantyhose fetish or like so embarrassed me, we go into a store and buy and stuff. But like, like, they could like literally go into shapings.com and order. And, you know, people that like you, you know that guys order Annieho's, right? Like, you get guys calling you up, guys emailing you, right? Like, no big deal to somebody like you, correct? Like, they don't ever have to feel self-conscious. Well, yeah, it's a daily occurrence here. It's something that we, uh, we receive emails about, you know, special orders. When's

this going to be in stock? These are my favorite pair. Yeah. Signed John or Joe. It's like I wear these daily. Yeah. Like it's becomes, it's like a guy's underwear type of, uh, uh, business at this point because it's not something like, oh, here's a guy buying panty hose, like what's going on here. It's like, yeah, it's just natural. And being online for 25 years, or 25th year, it's just becoming, you know, there's, there's such a great amount of men out there that enjoy wearing this full leg covering. And that's what we really feel this is. It's just a nylon-based, non-cotton, full-leg covering. Yeah, I like that.

It takes away the, like, maybe a stigma, like you're wearing women's clothing or something, right? It doesn't necessarily have to be women's clothing. It's all how you frame it, right? Yeah, it's like for a sheer knee-high, which we sell, like a woman's knee-high is, you know, traditional. It's like, well, there's men's dress socks that actually have nylon lycra. Totally. I've seen them.

They're just filled with cotton as well. Some men's socks have nylon lock. It's a nylon lycra cotton blend. So remove the cotton, and all of a sudden, it's just nylon lycra, and it's seethrough, and guys' feet shouldn't have be exposed in a sock. You know, this whole see-through business in a legwear for men sort of draws the line between men and a woman's garment, right? That's really what defines a men and women.

Like, can you see skin through it? Yeah. But, I mean, the truth is, and now this is like, you talk to hosers all day long for 25 years, so you know it's across the board. But I would say majority of hosers are looking for the see-through nude panty hose when they're looking to wear, right? It's not like they're looking for black, opaque tights. You know, though there are some guys.

I've talked to hundreds of hosyhoes. hosers right at this point too. You've talked to more, but typically they do want that see-through nude panty hose look to make their legs look perfect. They want them to look polished. They like the, I guess the perfection of it. There's a lot of sophisticated men out there that just want, you know, they don't want the hairiness. They want something that's polished. And, you know, it's like someone that really loves to see a nice, clean, polished car. It's like, I just want it glistening. I want to, you know, rub my hands across. So it's a textile thing. thing. We've touched based on that as well, but it's visual. And it's the feeling of slight

compression, like even a tendonium can feel a little bit, you know, it could hug your legs in a way of feeling, yeah, you know what? This feels nice. It feels a little bit of compressionist on my lower half. Yeah. Yeah, and they dig that. Now, do when guys call you up, because they can email you and get advice and stuff, but sometimes they call on the phone, right? And you're talking to them straight up? Yeah, all the time. I've got men actually enjoy wearing the retro style stockings, like the 100% nylon.

So a lot of guys are into the garter belt and stocking wardrobe. So, and with that, they love the way they feel like glass. They like the look of traditional, you know, 1950s. You know, they look themselves in the mirror. They like the feeling of a garter tugging on their stocking. So I have a group of men that enjoy that. As well. And then I have the men that enjoy, well, they not enjoy, but they need full-waste compression hose.

Yeah. I was talking to a customer, he's multiple orders. And I just actually talked to him on the phone the other week. And he's a doctor, and he specialized in vein therapy. And he's saying that if you're into like Barraco's veins or you're feeling sluggish in the legs, wear a full waist-high panty hose in order to combat and relieve and prevent any venous issues down the road. This has come from a doctor. And I said, how do you justify the women's and the men's, you know, over the knee?

He says, he's just throw that all out the window. you're into a full leg therapy garment. You know, it's not fashion. It's actual like a bandage. It's like a tensor bandage for the leg that's technologically knitted to be tighter at the ankle and work their way up, decreasing the pressure as it gets up the leg. He says it's hydraulically beneficial for anybody's legs, men or female. Yeah, no, that's true.

And let me just tell you, I'm going to take that a step further because I love that he's a doctor and he gave out the real facts about that. I had a caller once who's very out and proud walks around his neighborhood, doesn't give a fuck, told his girl that he's with about it and everything. And you know how he got around that, like right from the get-go? He wore compression hose and told people this was ordered by the doctor for him to do it. Like that was his way of just like getting past any kind of stick mess around it. So I think that's like kind of like, you know, if you want to be out and proud, but you don't want to tell people you're wearing panty hose

because people are going to think you're wearing female clothing, you can use that excuse. Oh, my doctor told me to wear have varicose veins. That's what he did. Let me tell you. Everyone in his town and his neighborhood from his girl, everyone knew. And no one gave a shit after a while, you know?

Well, yeah, that's one, you know, having an excuse, but actually having that. No, I mean, yeah, I love that. It actually does it. But I'm just saying it's also something that you could say because the truth is a lot of guys, you know, are listening to this episode on the DL, right? They're not out and proud.

They're not walking around their neighborhood like this guy was with shorts. He sent me in pictures with shorts and his hose and go into the grocery store and doing his living his best life. Every hose you're listening would love to be that guy. But most of them aren't. They're hiding in their room and wearing every now and then when no one's around. Okay, guys, have you ever tried a little anal action or are you totally curious about trying a little anal action? Well, anyone who listens to my show knows that I am on a mission. to get every guy out there open to anal action.

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with shorts and his hose and go into the grocery store and doing his living his best life. Every hosier listening would love to be that guy, but most of them aren't. They're hiding in their room and wearing every now and then when no one's around. But let's talk about all these hosers that do dress, you know, whether they're out and proud or they're dressing at home. Like what are the trends. And then we're going to get very specific. That's what I love about you. You could really talk brands and stuff because Shapings.com has like the widest.

variety of brands and stuff. Like you travel the world looking for the best stuff to sell, and you have really great prices on your website. But like, let's talk general first and then get really specific about, you know, these hosers that are dressing at home or out and proud. Like, what do you typically see is the den, the color and the shot, you know, that most hosers like, and then we'll get specific with brands and stuff? Well, it's definitely on top of the list, it's gloss.

It's shiny gloss. sheer, slippery. I have countless emails wanting, you know, what's the slipperiest hose out there? I want my legs to glide. So you're getting into a 15 to 10 denier, glossy, you know, like the Eternos from CDR, Eternon, Nines, tens. They all have that slippery, glossy, shiny, you know, wet look, oil look to it. So that's top of the list. And then you get functional. We have a bunch of guys that love into the 40 Denier. They just don't want to deal with their feet going through. They're not up on, you know, pedicures. They just want something that's pantyhoish-hous-fe-hue feeling. Yeah, that's a good word.

Without, you know, they'll see-through, but durable enough that they could just slip on and not worry about, you know, their toes going through the hands. Yeah, true. There's a lot of guys out there that want sort of the utilitary aspect of panty-hose. It's with, you know, a daily wear. under their pants to not really feel delicate. And I think that's a line between men's hosiery and women's is the delicateness of it. Yeah.

And, you know, how you need to, you know, wear to protect this delicate fiber. And that's why it's more feminine because there's more work towards it to wear an ultra-shear. And women have that kind of dainty, you know, touch. You know, carefulness. Right? Yeah. So, or guys, you know, they just. you know, slow, you know, but then there's men that enjoy wearing the ultra shears that do have

that sense of, you know, care and they have their feet done and their toes polish. But the other side of the guys just want to wear hose and not worry about, you know, putting their fingers through it. Right. So there's just the guys that want the functional value of saying, you know, a lot, 10 pair or 10 wares for one pair of hose. So, and then you've got the, again, the compression style. I have a very large group for therapy as that.

So you've got sort of stages between ultra-shear, shiny, glossy, every day. And then we have the seamless. We have a lot of guys looking for the seamless because it's comfortable. It's anatomically more designed for a guy anatomically because there's no gusset. There's no seam to, you know, cut in. So the seamless is a very high demand for guys. because of that reason.

Yeah. Do me a favor, Robert, because you just broke it down. And when you were talking about the glossy guys, right? The guys are like, I want something glossy and it just slides. You're like, oh, like the CDR 15 or 10 or 15 Den. Why don't we do the same thing for the functional guys, the compression guys, and the seamless? Like, what would be, like, for the functional guy that's just looking for value and something super durable, he calls you up, like, what is going to be the brand that you would suggest to him as well as the compression and then the seamless?

too? Well, there's a lot of styles. Let's base it on a denier, 40 denier. Okay. Now, again, denier is the weight of the fiber. It's not the thickness of the hose. It's the weight of the actual fiber before it's knitted. It could be a semi-shear. It'll still look like a panty hose, and then you've got a 40 opaque to look like a thicker tight. Yeah. So it depends on how much that fiber is knitted per square inch, right? It's just, they use just, but it's actually the weight of the roll.

the denier weight. So at that point, you have different brands carrying, say the Gemini 40s from CDR. You've got the different 40s by Orr Blue. You've got the Aferra 40s by Omero, Debbie 40s by Transparenz,

Kelly 40s by Gerardi, which uses the same yarn as Wolford. Wears like iron. You could probably get 20 wears out of it. It's like a tailored suit. you have the Coonerts satin look 40s so all these brands carry that wide range of denier and depending on which style has say a back panel or an extra large without a panel yeah now that's

another thing that men can benefit with the back panel is because it comes into a V where it meets with the front theme which might be more comfortable for anatomically for men but it adds more width to the panty. Now, a lot of men enjoy not having that back panel because of the smaller hips that a guy would have, right? So I think you've touched that on with your other guest, Ben, that he did a whole review of the hosiery that he received. But the extra back panel, but most guys have,

you know, they don't have child-bearing hips. So the back panel would make it larger and would make it slide down. But it would actually benefit for fit for an anatomical reasons. So the ones without the back panel sort of has your basic gusset and front and back seam,

which can be a little bit more uncomfortable for a guy. Yeah. So you have to look at each brand to say, okay, which will give me the longer leg? without a back panel. CBRs usually have their size fours with the back panel because they know that their market

justifies the back panel for the female market. So they have to look at different sizes and what the back panel doesn't include in each brand. So it sort of isolates which product you can get into for fit-wise. At that point, it's like it's what flavor you want and then we have to go for each brand to say, okay, which sizes will allow me to wear that flavor. Are they all, though, like that, like, you know, so if a guy wants, like, oh, give me 10

of something, like, what's the cheapest one that's going to give you, that of the 40, that would be maybe top of your list for someone that wants to buy a bunch and not break his piggy bank? Well, we're dealing with European styles. Usually the 40 denier comes with a double-covered Lycra blend. It depends if he wants shear to waste or a reinforced panty. There's not many reinforced panties out there that we bring in because a lot of people love the shear to waste look. The reinforced panty will give you more durability. You know, you can go in the washroom.

Your thumb doesn't go through it as much. But 95% of our customers enjoy the shear to waste. So you're looking at around in U.S. dollars, 14 U.S. for a pair of 40 Denier, Omero, Philodoro, Even the CVR Gemini 40s are around that range. So not expensive. And you're still going to get a double-covered lycra. And the double-covered lycra is, again, it's a lycra fiber wrapped by two nylon fibers. So it's like that, you know, it's like a cable.

They're knitting a cable before they actually knit the hose. They spin it. So it protects that liker yarn and you get better fit qualities, more springback, better color rendition, more durability. You're going to enjoy wearing a covered laker, and that's usually European brands. They knit it that way because they want that quality of product. Now, what about the compression, and then we'll do seamless.

Like, is there a specific company that you work with that you highly recommend that has good sizing for the guys who are really into the compression? and panty house? All our three brands of compression, Segretta, which is part of Ibichi in Italy. We have Ellie, which is a very old company. They're just outside of Milan.

L-E-L-L-Y. Oh, okay. Solidia, which is a very high-end compression hose out of Italy. We carry those because of the generous fit. Like even the foot size of

Segretta can fit up to a size 13 men's foot. Oh, you're kidding. That's good to know. So you're not going to get that, you know, toe binding, squishiness from the toe to the reinforced heel aspect. And they come in very large, like long legs that will fit a guy. So the generosity of their sizing, we carry those brands because of that. And they're not very compressive in the panty. So a lot of, some other brands want that whole leg compression with a very tight control top. And these brands don't go that route because they want the compression of the leg, not necessarily compressive of the panty.

So they actually have lighter compression panels built in with higher compression panels to give you that butt shape. Yeah. So below the butt is compressed up like a bra. Yeah. And then it has a thinner material for the butt. butt cheeks in order for your butt to hang out over top of this lifting. You don't really see in a compression support pantos.

Right. And what about those? All our three brands. Those three bands. Yeah, all three brands. A lot of men wear them. Like I have a guy from Minnesota. He's buying like 50 styles in his next order between Ellie and Segretta.

And he's a six foot four guy and he wears them religiously every day. Wow. Wow. We're going to get into sizing and get even more specific on, like, how to put them on so that you don't rip them, how to size yourself, how to buy, like, you know, and get a little bit more specific with certain brands that you love and stuff. But let's do the last one, which is the seamless. For those guys that love the seamless, what are you typically talking to them about when they call? Well, the Chinese brands, it's getting into the sizing of the panty. The Chinese brands, when you see them online, you always see that very large, wide waistband. and it sort of bleeds into the hips. And that's their manufacturing, I guess. It's something that they don't, they can't get from the actual seamless part, from the crotch to the waist.

They can't get that stretch. So they have to widen that band in order for it to fit around you up to your waist. Where the Europeans sort of, they've got a technology where they can increase the sheer seamless part up the waist before it hits the band. La Borgier has a beautiful, it's called Comfort 20, and that thing could just stretch right up to your belly button before the waistband even starts. So that would help if you have a wider waist, wider hips, because as you increase the hip size, that stretch up your waist will decrease. Because the fabric has to stretch outward instead of upward. Right.

So that's one thing that we look at is that how high can that waistband stretch to give you without a feeling like it's sliding down like a hipster style. Men and joy, we have CBR Libero size 5, great for longer legs. They're missed 20s. There's a 20 dinye microfiber in a size 4, extremely stretchy. The trans parenz, Claudia, 20 again, a 20 dengue microfiber. stretches like no tomorrow. But again, it's that panty fit that can give the guy much more freedom as a regular,

compared to a regular gusset hose. Yeah. And again, they all have that type of 20 denier microfiber, 10 denier microfiber because of that stretchability at the panty. Now, the sizing, you have to be aware that sizing is based on volume. How much volume is your leg? It's not your weight and height, which is a guide, but for men's, generally, a man's weight is more mass compared to a woman.

A woman's leg with the same weight would be more volume compared to a man's leg because he's more dense, muscular. So a woman's leg would be more volume, which would probably would take her into the next size compared to, of the man with the same weight in height. So it's like how many marbles could fit in a bag. Right. That's what you mean when you're talking about volume.

Yes. It's like how much volume is this leg going to take up in the hose. Right. So if I have more, you know, thickness, the hose has to stretch more round, which would decrease the length that the hose could stretch up. Hey everyone, want to learn how to talk really dirty in bed or give your partner, whether you're a guy or girl, really great head. Well, then you need to get Beducated. Beducated has sex courses on everything you could think of from self-pleasure to kink.

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Right? But as soon as you fill something in, you can't stretch it as long. And that's how a leg works. It's the volume. So the size chart, you know, you get that, you know, how. I'm between size three and four, and you usually say, well, I'm going to go into the size four if I'm on the border. Well, that may be the case if you have larger legs, but we've been on photo shoots with a

five foot nine model, and we would bring a size three. And they'd be so long on her because she's got thin legs. Wow, interesting. Yeah, that makes sense. Uh-huh. Yeah. And you think the opposite. And now she's got so much extra material at the top.

It's like, oh, damn, you know, she has to, you know, stretch up. higher than bulk up at the top because her legs are so thin that the hose could stretch up higher. Right, the volume, because she doesn't have as much volume. But guys do, right? You're saying? Well, yes and no. They could have thinner legs compared to a larger, fuller figured woman.

They would weigh the same. You see those little legs and the big bellies. Right, exactly. You see them walking around all the time. They're thin, but most of their weight is above the waist. Of course. And their shoulders and their chest and their muscle mass. Exactly.

But they've got these skinny chicken legs. Yeah. So we've got to be aware that, okay, I'm a guy. I'm going to wear the largest size, but not necessarily because most of your weight is above the waist. Yeah, but tell people, Robert, how you size people. Like, say somebody, and this is what's great about Chapings, and I have a lot of, like, I heard about you from my hosers that were, like, obsessed with you. I'm like, oh, you need to talk to Robert.

he's the guy I've been using, blah, blah, blah. And, you know, what is great about you, and they're learning from you now, but people do call you up or they email you and they give you their specific information so you could pick out the right size for them because you know your brands really well and you know how to size someone. Like what is it that you ask someone when you are trying to size them so people know like what they need to take into consideration when sizing themselves? they're in seam. So it's a measurement from the floor to their crotch. So basically how long their actual leg is. And they're hip size. That gives me an indication that they're going to need a back panel. Right. And on the back of a panty hose thing, though, like the sizing is always height and weight. Yeah. Well, that's a guide. Yeah. And again, it's we should have more of a hip size. leg length size chart, right? Yeah, but that's how you size the people yourself.

If someone comes to you, that's what you would ask. But that's how someone to really get the right size, that's what they need to know even about themselves, correct? That's right. And there's a size testing apparatus that manufacturers use. It's called a C-E-T-M-E. It's C-E-T-M-E. These are actual, there are two plates that look,

like a full leg, like a side view of a leg, but it's very augmented. Like, it's very large looking. I'll send you an email showing what these plates look like. Okay, I'll post it with this episode on Patreon. Yeah, and I will, I'll send you what they, so they pull the hose over these plates, and there's two bars at the bottom where the thighs would be. Like, these are upside down, and, you know, they pull the hose down. And wherever the crotch ends up with these bars,

at the bottom, that would be the size at these plates. So it's sort of like a calibrated sizing method across the industry with these plates. They say, okay, they stretch it down. It hits the bars. This is a size two, because they have the plate

sizes from size 1 to 8 for CDR's purposes, right? So they stretch the hose down and say, okay, these are size 4. This is how much we can pull the hose down until it hits these bars at the bottom, which is basically the top of the thighs.

That is basing the volume metric, volumetric characteristics of that yarn in how far it could stretch because each hose, even though the leg can be the length, the same length of the package, they have to fully stretch it across these calibrated plates in order to get the size. Right. So it's all based on volume. It has nothing to do with weight and size or, you know, that just gives you more of a, user-friendly, more understandable type of saying, oh, yeah, I'm 5'8.6, I weigh this much,

and I should be taking this size. But for guys, like, say, for a guy isn't calling you, right, but the good news is they can, or they could also email you through your site, and I'll put your information in the description. You know, how should a guy go about sizing themselves if they're looking online and what are, and then let's get specific about certain brands that have, like, great hose for guys because they run way bigger or, you know, larger? Well, again, there's larger women out there too that need a lot more volumes. So it's not just the men. Men are generally, you know, taller.

Right. So looking at the size chart, you can see the height. So base it on the height first. Okay. And you'll be a little bit more in tune of, okay. you know, this can go this tall. But if you have a really big foot, add in a little bit to your height, right? Because height is not taking into, if you have a 13-inch, you know, that's adding a foot to your height.

Well, yeah, it's not a size seven little petite. Yeah, yeah, you might need to add some stuff, yeah. You know, putting your hose over a boot against volume. But for a guy, I would generally go for the height and then decide, do I want the back panel? So if they could say there's, which would give you a longer lay. but it doesn't have the back panel, then I'm going to go into a back panel because my height range falls into that chart.

Right. So for a guy, I would definitely make the height being more of a priority on the size chart than the weight. What are your favorite brands? If you had to give like your top three, for when it comes to sizing, we're going to go into gloss and all that more specific next, but let's just talk sizing first.

Like, you know, if you had to pick your top three, go to for bigger guys, right? Not the guys that are smaller, like the guys that are like really big and find it hard to find hose that fit them. The guy with the 13 size foot, that's six foot five or whatever, you know? I would put Coonert of Germany at the top because they're dealing with a lot of larger people in Germany. Uh-huh.

And they're larger men. So they're quite generous. So when you look at the size tart with Cooner, you actually can actually drop down. Wow, that's kind of unheard of, no? Yeah. Yeah, they have a very large standard of sizing. The next I would go with oral blue. They have a great small, medium, large, extra large and maxi.

The extra large is the longer leg without the panel. So for that reason, most of their styles will have that long leg without the panel. Right. CDR, you're looking at the longer legs, but they, usually have the back panel in size fours. And I've been telling them for years to, you know, drop that panel in the size four. But not in the eternal styles. See, eternal, their eternal line, they don't have any back panel right up to size six. Right. Because of the stretchability in the panties. So for that reason, I put them high in the list as well for length and width because

of their stretch in the panty. They don't need a panel. Right. stretchability. Friends in from Italy, it's an older company. Again, they have size one to four without a panel and then they have their maxi as well. So I would say the brands that have that size four without that extra large back panel would be something that I would you know steer men towards. Sylvia Grande from Italy, it's a smaller company. They have a size 4L so it's four long before they get into 4XL, XL meaning with the back panel. And that's explained in the actual product description. You know, 4L would be length.

And they actually have some styles with a 5L, very long, without a panel. And that's not normal. That's not like typical, right, to have it that big without the panel. Right. They actually developed some hose for a very long-legged female model. She had like a 40 inseam

extremely long legs So they developed some Styles to fit her She was thin She didn't need a back panel She just needed longer legs Wow interesting That they would do it

Just for that For their marketing Okay let's get to You know the glossy glosses I mean I know you did talk about the CDRs You know what are your top picks For the guy that wants The hoser that wants

The glossy silky Silky feeling And look well they've they've got the whole market pretty much buttoned up in Italy in Spain is the eternal lines eternal 10 9 and 20s you're going to get that gloss shine you're going to get the fit you're going to get the length so they've pretty much mastered that whole the CDRs is what you're talking yeah yep they can't like China can't compare with the sizing and the quality of the yarn with what CDRs has done with this eternal line. And I just got an email this morning and a little bit of a something secret developing

in the eternal line. I don't want to put it out there because other manufacturers might be or other retailers might be looking at it. Yeah, but they've got something brewing. It's going to be a little bit more pricier, but it's going to take care of a lot of categories. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Yeah, so they want my opinion on it. They're going to send some samples. But my last meeting in October, I forced their hand, especially with what China's doing. And I said, you've got to go back to your Italian manufacturers and make this happen. What did you see the Chinese manufacturer, manufacturers doing? Well, they're doing, they're getting into that sort of, they are into that glossy,

you know, oily feel as well. And they're into the seamless, they're into body suits. So they're sort of taking over that kind of wet look, oil look, glossy, dipped in oil. But their sizing is a little, because they're China, they don't feel like the larger sizes can be accommodating. Right. Or need it. Whereas the Italians is like, listen, we need to develop something that's a little bit more, you know, lengthy for the North American market. So that new technology of oily.

Now, there's some brands out there that really get into that, like Pearl and Poseidon. They're exclusively made in China. Not a very good company to deal with, very odd, but they do have that sort of market towards that glossy shine. But this new product from CDR coming out will sort of go head to head with them. I guarantee it. Oh, interesting. I mean, this is like you're very in the know. I mean, you're talking to these people.

Are they in the know about the large mail market, too, I'm assuming. Oh, yeah. They have a Chinese retailer that actually markets. They have so much photography based with men in their marketing, wearing their products. So they know it. They know because they brought out the size 7 and 8 in the eternal 20s. They know that it's there. The owner is sort of old-school, you know, pushing 80 years old.

and he's sort of like, well, okay, we'll do it. But I think with the advent of the Internet, I don't think the Internet has increased men wearing pantos. I think it's increased the community, but I don't think it's increased men always wearing them throughout the decades. Oh, no. I mean, the people that I talked to were wearing way before the Internet. Right.

So that has broadened the community. It makes it easier for these guys to order without having to walk in a store because some people would never do that and they don't have to steal from somebody. So I think it changed people that way. But most of the people I'm talking to, like I said, they were wearing way before the internet. The internet was just like the perfect thing made for them. So they could just buy it. Well, yeah, you walk in the truck store, you get your pair of legs and walk up to the counter with, you know, your, you know. Yeah, as a guy, that's embarrassing for a guy.

A lot of guys would do it. It's for my wife or sister. Yeah. It's like, well, does the cashier really care? Yeah. Like, really, does you walk out and they're like, okay, whatever? They're not going to. Right.

But I think for a hoser, buying online is key. It's safer. Yeah, for sure. And I think that they could reach, like, experts like you who could really help them and are really in the know. You know, a lot of people find my show and email me and they're like, oh, you know, I don't feel so alone and stuff, you know, because a lot of hosers aren't out to everyone.

They have no one to really talk to. You know, and it's great if they have a place where if they're like buying that they could like reach out and get information, you know, and that person knows that they exist and that this is a thing and that guys wear panty hose. No big deal. Well, we do have our forum. We do have a forum on our website. Oh, you do.

You can join it. You could post your pictures tastefully. There's huge community. of people that talk about, you know, styles and sizing and what they're wearing. And so if you go on there, it's, you could just, you know, dive right into a whole community of people that enjoy pantyhoes and tights and stockings. But we, we run it quite classy, no nudity, you know. They could come to my site for that, to my discord, actually.

They wanted the actors up, then they could come to me. I got those pictures. Post your pictures, you know, show off. your legs if you're laying on the couch so you don't have to show your face you know if you're out in about in the you know out in the park you know show it off and say hey what do you think and it's it's completely safe and just you know make up an account and you're off to the races with other people in the community do me a favor and talk about care do you wash do you line dry do you put in the you know dryer how to put them on so they don't tear you know how to keep them stored

I think you told me once like, oh, always keep them in the package. It's a great way to always remember what they are. Like, to give them all that information. There's some talk about having labels sewn on the back to know what they are down the road. It's like, well, that's what the package is for. Right. And keep the package. Right.

Pull them out of the package in the morning. Wear them. Keep the package on your dresser. And when you come back, you know, it's best to actually wash them out. after you wear. Don't let them sit around because the lycra, it decomposes from body oil. Oh, interesting. Only you would know this stuff, Robert, this is why you're on, yeah. Even wearing your bras in panties, it's like the lycra in there, in blend, don't let it sit

around because if you're sweating during the summer and you let your bra sit around, it eats at the lycra, the stretchability of the fabric. And then the lycra just sort of breaks. and now you don't have that stretch. It's not good to have your body oil sit on these lycra-blended products. So it's good to just throw them in the sink, use a little just hand lotion or hand soap, swished around, get that body oil out, rinse it and hang it. You're done.

And then you have your package sitting in your dresser. Throw it back in. Throw it in your drawer. It's protected. You're not having a whole bunch of tangled hose that I see online. It's like, what do you? What are you doing in that drawer? You've got to pull out and say, what is this?

What's that? What's this? And you stretch it out. Does this have a run? It's like, that's what the package is for. This is the brand. That's the color. That's the size.

This is what you're going to pull out and say, yeah. This is the tendoniae with the control top or this is sheer away CDR Eternals. I've never understood why the package gets thrown out and you throw that ball of delicate yarn mixed in with a whole bunch of other you know it's like grandma's you know knitting yarn in a basket beside the couch it's like what are we doing yeah but i have to say robert you're the only one that doesn't understand that i would say probably 99.9% of the people take it out of the package and throw it away when you said keep it in and that's the way to file it and i've had some hosers that send me in the pick of their stash you know because sometimes i'll get like oh send me in the

pick of your stash you know i'm like always interested in how they keep them a lot of times just thrown in the drawer, but when I see them in the actual case that it came in. I'm like, oh, that's so smart. It's such a great way you could file them. You could keep them neatly and you can know what they are. But I like, I know you're dumbfounded by why people don't do that. When you brought up the fact that people should do that, I was like, oh my God. Why didn't I ever think of that? Well, it's actually super smart, but most people think throw it out. Well, in the mail and when we ship it, what do you do with it? Do you take it all out of the package, right out the bat and throw the package away? No, you take the that new package of hose, you throw it in a drawer, and then at the time when you wear it, you throw the package out, why don't you do that as soon as you get it out of the door?

Right. Well, now they know not to, okay? Right. So it's like, this isn't a chocolate bar where you eat it and you throw the wrapper out. You're still using this product. Throw it back in the package. You can even organize it in shears, semi-shears, compression in your drawer. You know exactly where you're going. And then there's, there's people that wear them daily and then they group up into their laundry day and then they throw it in their I guess their laundry regular laundry with your mesh bag do not put it in separately you got to have it if you're going to put in the washing machine putting in your mesh bag but for God's sake do not put it in the dryer just right you know even with your brazen

you know just you're dealing with a delicate material I know they'll throw it in with your jeans Right. Unless you want to just wear it. And then don't complain if they have these things aren't wearing well. Well, how'd you wash it? Yes, they could put the tags on the back of the waistband, adds to the cost. Then they have to print up individual tags with the different size on it.

And then, you know, it's just if you want to pay more for that or just throw it in the package and you know exactly what it is. Yeah, I think it's so smart. And I can't stress that enough. It's like the package is there. There's your tag. Yeah. And it's protected in your drawer.

It's not going to be bundled up in a whole bunch of other, you know, rats nest of panty hose. And it's got all the information you need. Now, what about putting them on, how to properly put them on? I mean, I know you felt gloves. You sent me gloves when you send me some? We do sell cotton gloves, and that will take care of. You're into an ultra-shear.

Whose hands are perfectly smooth and manicured, depending on where you are. You could be in the winter-type setting. you've got the dry little nail hangies that catch on as you're pulling, you know, crunching the hose up to your toe. Put the gloves on. It's protected. Make sure your toes are smooth and filed down. Put moisturizer on your feet.

Make sure you're, you can get heel files that sort of, you know, take the roughness out of your heel. Throw in a nice moisturizer on your feet because 90% of the runs do occur. at your toes and heels because they're the stress points. And if you got an ultra-shear being stretched fully at the heel, it's going to break because you're walking, you're bending, you're in the shoe, the toes are being poked at all the time. So make sure your toes are polished or even filed down properly and then moisturize. That will take care of a lot of runs. Now using the gloves will prevent that catchiness and snagginess that's,

your rough skin will catch. And then it's like Velcro. You know, the hose is the smooth part where your hand is the rough part of Velcro. It's going to catch it. So wear the cotton gloves while you put them on. A lot of hose coming out of the package needs that extra stretch because they need to, you know, they've been washed, they've been iron, they've been. So we recommend we're using rubber gloves afterwards.

So once you get them to the waist, you might have a, saggy crotch, throw in a pair of gloves from dishwashing. It's got the grippy palms. You can manipulate your hose around your heels, your ankles, leave a little space in the toes for wiggle, and then fully stretch from your ankle all the way up to the crotch. Twist and turn and do whatever it needs to do, because you're the only person that knows how it fits. Right. Rubber gloves will prevent you from using your fingertips. A lot of people use, I see them on reviews. They try to grab that hose off of the leg and use their fingertips and their bare palms. Rubber gloves is the bomb.

You have to use them and you'll never go back to adjusting hose without them. Yeah, I love that. Especially with seamless. Seamless hose really needs rubber gloves to adjust them properly. Robert, listen. It's a bit of an awkward type practice if someone's looking in, Anya's like, what do you doing? Who cares?

If it's going to keep your hose that you love in good shape, who cares? Yeah, we used to have them in our washroom at our store because our employees, they were always in hose and they'd go in the washroom. They always have a pair of rubber clubs in there to get them on properly and up and off the hole. Right. And that would probably, you know, prolong the wear of the hose just by the up and down practice of wiring hose. So now, listen, Robert, you need to give, now I don't know if there's anything that we didn't talk about that you want to tell guys that you think is important. and I also wanted you to give like a shout out to all your stuff. I'll put a link to shapings.com in the description.

But is there anything that I didn't ask you that you think would be really beneficial for hosers to know about buying panty hose? Be shy. Yes, I love that. Yeah. That's what we started with, right? Like seriously, that's, you know. Like if you want to call and just, you know, it's this whole runaround of, you know,

looking for my girlfriend and she's this tall and she's kind of larger and you know what do you recommend and then they start getting into well I kind of like the feel of this on her it's like well you're talking to

I could tell it's for you just say hi I'm looking for panty hose if I wear them let's just start from there because you know to be blunt I don't care yeah no I love that

daily thing and enjoy it because when you're dead, you're dead. You can't enjoy this anymore. And it's like we are in a time where we have this accessible. A hundred years ago, we didn't. Yeah. And I feel like I'm spoon feeding them, though, also someone who for sure for the past 25 years have been talking to other guys just like them. So they know they're not going to be judged.

They know that you know that they wear. It's like a no brain. You know, and I think it's like super scary or how would someone know that if they reach out to a Pani Hoastor that they know that guys were? You know, I don't, I think some people don't know that people like you exist. And I love that like, you know, you do exist. I found out about you from my hosers who talk to you and have been talking to you for a long time. And that's how you have, you know, I found you as a guest. And you've been on my show many times. I have a lot of exclusive episodes between me and you over on my Patreon. But I love the fact that there's probably a lot of people now listening. to this Fetish Friday, you know, episode looking for, like knowing the fact that you know that guys by Panheos that you've been talking to him for a long time, that's going to be a big plus for them, you know, because it just takes away all that fear that I think maybe a lot of guys have. Well, it becomes a taboo when men enjoy wearing this, okay? You're a human being.

You love the feeling of this type of fabric. You need a woman that says, you know what, I love, because we do. have our female customers that love wearing pantos, they love how they feel, what gives them the ultimate right to say, this fabric is available and it's only me that can enjoy it? That whole other half of the population, sorry, you can't enjoy what I'm enjoying. Yeah, that's, I like that. I like that angle. Like, and then men sit there, well, I, can a woman sit there and say, well, I, I, I enjoy wearing this traditional guy thing and we're going to sit there and oh geez that's is that a taboo or is that just being a female with all options under the sun for her yeah where a guy's like you know what

if you love in wearing this textile you know technological wonderment that was invented what 80 years ago then why can you not enjoy the sensations that this provides you get over it yeah yeah yeah get over and call Robert or email Robert. Robert, you need to give out all your information. Give the shout-out, but just for people that are driving, that are listening, don't worry about it. I'm going to put the website, the link to the website, in the description, and explain to people how they could contact you. I mean, it's shapings.com. Well, shapings.com, again, it was developed from 1995, our bra store. That's why it's called Shapings. It was traditionally shapewear and bras.

So that's why it transitioned, and then the hosury, just to give you a little quick history of it. But contact us. We have a contact us page instead of giving up the phone number. It's right there. Give us a call. We have contact us email. We look at that constantly through the day.

We answer it. We don't let it go a week later. We get an answer. Be specific. Don't be general. We have a lot of guys saying, yeah, I'm a guy. I'm 5'6 or 5 foot 10. What do you recommend in pantyhoes? It's like, seriously? we need to, you know, what's your denier?

What do you enjoy wearing? Is it shiny mat? So be a little bit more specific as to what you want to help with. Yeah. And if it's sizing, remember what he told you to give him the measurement. We generally write back, I fit this size of genes. Because the guy's jeans is basically in seam and we've measured. Oh, okay, good to know.

Right? Mm-hmm. Because guys' jeans aren't based on dress, like what women's jeans are. Yeah. Men's, it's all in seam and waist. So that's a great visual of what your legs are. And that we can base that on where you should be going and sizing. And shoe size would be great as well.

Right. So write in, be specific, pick up the phone call. And what's great also, too, about Robert, is that, you know, the pricing, I mean, all of his stuff is so, like not expensive, right, but really high end. And you have such a variety on there that you do have a discount like buy five pairs, but it's not like five pairs are going to break your bank because the stuff on there is super inexpensive. And it's like high quality stuff. Like CDRs are not $50 a pair?

Well, compared to some of these UK retailers, which I don't understand, you're probably getting ripped off when you're comparing the prices. It's like you have to look at the currency, shipping cost. and apples to apples, right? So look at currency is a very large thing. Look at our discount, our bulk discount. And because we buy direct from their manufacturers, we were able to, there's no middlemen to bring you into our country, so we don't have to pay someone else and then up the charge.

And then we're actually sitting there thinking, should we increase the price in order to make the quality equal to the price? And then you're thinking, well, should I make this $15 hose $20 because people would think it's a cheap hose? If it's only 15, right. Right? Which is not. So you're basing yourself on value and quality and the availability of saying to the customer, is this a good hose?

Why is it so cheap? So we're basing it on what it costs us and our markup and our margins. and we bring that right through the whole variety. Yeah, and you have really great deals. I mean, I tried some hose that were very inexpensive that I would have thought, oh, they're not $50 like Wolford, so how could they be as good? And they were as good if not better. So you know your stuff.

You were the only person that ever sized me properly. Besides you sending me hose and sizing me properly, I know for a fact you've done it for lots of my hosers. Like I said, you can. Well, I think we got you in those some eternal nines in a size three. and you felt they were too large, and I sent you the size too, because now of a sudden that hose fits your body without too much extra at the top of your thighs that you have to stretch up and then it starts sagging.

So being too long could be a lot worse than having something that's fully stretched and fits your body perfectly instead of having too much yarn to deal with. But listen, the point is, though, that the CDRs, if I blew my money on them and they weren't the right size, it would have been, you know, what, $20 compared to $50 if they were Wilford's wrong size. So I think that that's like a makes a big difference. And they're like amazing panty-ho.

So anyway, listen, Robert, send me those pictures or whatever pictures you want to go with this episode. That would the picks and stuff will be on my Patreon for my hosers to see. This is going to go out of my Fetish Friday episode. So send me them ASAP, okay, because it goes up on my Patreon tomorrow. Okay? Because they get them early. All right. Thank you so much for calling it.

it's always fun to talk to you. Always a great talking as well, and I just hope I can add more to the hosiery world. You can. You are right now what you just did. I bet you anything you're going to get hit up, okay? Let me know. So just keep wearing and don't worry about what people think. If it's something in private, just enjoy your private time with them.

Yeah. If you want to share it with a partner, that's all another issue. Yeah, no, Carpe Diem, trust me. That's where they could come to my thing. I have people share to the partners. I can hear all those stories, but you're someone that could help them buy hos, and that's what this episode is about.

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Strickly Nononymous Confessions. Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. What I did was I picked out the 17 best episodes. That was very hard to do. Okay, I picked like one from each category. and I retold the story from the third person. So it's not interview style. It's a little bit more erotica. The only place where I took creative liberty was in the sex scene. So it's even hotter than my episodes. Like I said, it's told in the third person.

And they're all true, just like my show. I mean, these are real stories from my show, just written out. Like I said, in the third person, not an interview style, more like a story, but a true story, a true super hot story. Now listen, it is available for pre-order now, and it's not coming out until October 14th, and I was like, oh, my God, that's a long time away. So I figured I'd incentivize people. If you want to pre-order it now, I will give you free access to my Discord if you pre-order

it now. All you got to do is screenshot, a pick of the receipt, just screenshot it to me. Send it to Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. And then I will send you the link to my Discord. So that's a little incentive to pick it up now. It's on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Simon & Schuster. The link is in the description. So make sure to click on it.

And if you get it, send me the pick of you purchasing and I'll give you free access to my private Discord that is a totally naughty, super hot community with a lot of people over 2500 people over there having fun. Remember email me the pick at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com.