Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1079 - Burt & Audrey Had an Affair & Now They’re Into Threesomes, Foursomes, Fisting and Moresomes

Episode Date: April 3, 2025

Burt and Audrey had an affair and now they’re a couple into threesomes, foursomes, fisting and moresomes How did their affair start? How did they get caught and wind up together? And, what kind of naughty things are they into? Tune in to hear them explain how and why they both were unhappy in their marriages, the one thing that went down between them that made them both realize they were totally into each other, how they are both bisexual and both of their first bisexual experiences, when and where they started cheating with each other and what exactly went down, how they hid it at first and how they eventually both got caught and then wound up together, Burt’s kinks that he confessed to Audrey including his interest in extreme anal insertions, nipple torture, pee play and eating creampies and more and how and why Audrey was down for all of them, how she fisted him early on and why she was totally into it, the guy they met on Grinder and what exactly went down at their first mmf threesome with him, their first threesome with other woman, why it didn’t end well and what they learned from it, the foursome f*** fest they had with his childhood friend and his wife and exactly what went down, why they post pics on Reddit including their most recent double anal fisting pic, how. Burt likes to sub and Aubrey likes to dom and how they sometimes switch, how she had been fisted previously by a girl she dated when she was younger, how Aubrey felt first time she saw Burt with a guy, the cuckold fantasy they want to live out and how they’re both into chastity play plus a whole lot more. REPEAT THURSDAY originally aired 1/24 **To see pics of BURT AND AUDREY and my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors:  https://butterwellness.com/ For 20% off your Butter Wellness perineum massager use code STRICTLY https://bluechew.com Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON https://beducate.me/march2025 Use code anonymous to get an additional 10% off the campaign’s current discount - that’s 60% off Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'll have Bert come on for 30 minutes. And then Audrey come on for 30 minutes. When Bert was talking, I was like, oh, my God, I could go for a fucking hour with Bert. Bert is very hardcore. Audrey is as hardcore, too, even though she doesn't feel like she is. She's hardcore as well. So I went a little bit longer with the both of them. This is going to be an extra long episode.

But it's fucking worth it. And it probably should have been a two-hour episode because I could have went longer with them because besides their hardcore sex that they're both into, and what they do with each other and the stuff that they do together. They had an interesting way that they met. And we talk about that a lot. That's where we start. They both were cheating on their partners with each other. They were both very sexual people and very vanilla, unhappy relationships. They were neighbors. It was a very salacious way of meeting. There was a specific event. They both talk about it. That specific event that happened that kind of got them on the same

page and realize that there was something more there with the two of them. Then they started cheating and then they got caught. And when they were like cheating, they were like fisting each other. I mean, you don't understand. They've been hardcore with each other right from the get go. Burke comes on first and he talks about all this kinky stuff that he's into. And when I say he's hardcore, he is and he's an extremist. He's very into anal insertions. Like the bigger, the better. He's very into fisting in his ass. He's into nipple torture. He's into being pegged. He's very into pleasing women. He's also really into peeple. Okay, he is as extreme as they get. He's a submissive. Sometimes he does like to dumb Audrey, but they're perfectly suited because Audrey has a total dominatrix inside of her too. I mean, she's a very domy kind of girl. They haven't been together long, but since they started being hardcore with each other right from the get-go, they have done a lot in the two years they've been together. Okay, they had a threesome with a guy. Bird is very bisexual. Aji is very bisexual too. She's very into seeing her guy with another guy. Their first threesome they had was with another guy. And they talk about everything that went down. It was a great experience for the both of them. Then they had a threesome with a threesome with a bisexual friend of his. That he always knew and always wanted to kind of do a

swap with. And he gets very specific about what they did. And then Audrey comes on and tells me her whole side of them meeting up and fucking and doing all the stuff that they did and cheating. And then she talks about that first experience seeing Bert with another guy and how it was like so hot for her because she was down for that. She always wanted to fist a guy. She always wanted to peg a guy. One of her fantasies is to do a whole cuck scenario with Bert have him caged up for a while and then have her bring home a guy and take advantage of that guy right in friend of Bert while he watches. We hear from the both of them. It's a super interesting episode. They are on Reddit and they post a lot of stuff over there, but they didn't want to give out their Reddit,

but they did send me naughty, hot picks of them. I have those over on my Patreon. So if you want to see them, they will be over there. They'll also be on my Discord. If you want to go there, it's patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. The link will be in the description. You're going to love their story. You're going to love hearing from the both of them. Bert is super interesting. Audrey is as a interesting. Their story is super interesting. And I don't care that I said interesting a lot because it is fucking interesting episodes. I'm going to be right back on first with Bert and then Audrey will be on. Hi, Bert. Today we're going to be talking to not only you, but you and your wife, Audrey. You're going to come on first. I like to do couples this way. It's kind of fun. We save the best for last, which is Audrey. My listeners love hearing from women who love sex.

So we're going to have Audrey on second, but we're going to get the story from you and then she'll be on. I'm just going to give the brief overview. You and Audrey Matt, you guys were cheating on your husbands and wives. You were neighbors. I mean, what a fucking story for the block to talk about behind your guys back. You guys were like having an affair. You left your partners and have been successful. I mean, now you're married and you guys are living your best life when it comes to sex, especially. And I typically find that this is a common thing that in second marriages or a lot of times the second time around. You're much more honest and up front about all your stuff, right? And so, and so you get right to it. I mean, you guys know everything about each other. You're totally into

the same kind of things when it comes to sex. You're both bisexual. You're into Chastity Play. You're a switch, subs, doms, all that kind of good stuff you guys are into. You also do threesomes and four sums and that kind of stuff as well. Am I, is that the correct short story? Yeah, that's pretty much summed up the short version of it. It's funny you mentioned that you're in the second relationships. You're a lot more up front with things because that's exactly how we did it because we're both. And I'll speak to me and Audrey when she comes on, she can speak from her perspective. But we were both in relationships that were very unsatisfying.

I was open with my ex about my sexuality and she was very religious. And anytime it would come up, it would use. Julian with her literally saying the words, I need prayer and I need therapy. And so it was a 20, it was a 20 year relationship. It wasn't a short one. It was a 20 year relationship of you need prayer and therapy and getting shamed for it. Oh my God. I finally just had enough. And it's interesting, though, with you that you were very honest about what you were into. The fact that you were bisexual and you were open about that with your first wife straight up. I mean, I give you credit. A lot of guys keep that on the, you know, under wraps because of exactly. And, you know,

the way your wife reacted. I mean, that's what they think they're going to get. And so they don't even tell them and they're just out blowing guys behind their back. Yeah, I only, I fooled around once behind her back with a guy just because I wanted, I'd never experienced a guy. And so I did try one time just to know if I would like it. And I really did. So I knew that it wasn't just like a thought in my head once I actually acted on it.

I had a really good time. And I knew that was something I was going to want to have in some form in my life. And it was something that I discussed. We discussed swinging with my ex and she was never into it. And so leaving that marriage, which that's whatever, I'm glad that that's gone. But leaving that marriage, I didn't want to repeat those same mistakes. I didn't want to have another unfulfilled relationship where I spend 15, 20 years getting shamed for what I want.

So when Audrey and I started talking and started realizing that there might be something there because we literally live right across the street, if you walked out on my driveway, right across the street here and hers. And kids same age, so we spent a lot of time doing mutual kid being's birthday parties, play dates, stuff like that. And we were just friends, but, you know, there was one specific event that brought us a lot closer. And once we realized that there was definitely something more than just a friendship there,

I decided if we were going to pursue it and make the, I mean, it's a giant change, divorcing your exes. Oh, my God, for the neighbor? Oh, it blew the neighborhood. We had a very tight, close-knit to neighborhood, and we blew that entire block up for sure. Wait, you said, though, that there was one specific thing that happened that brought us closer. What was that? So it's totally cheesy, and it sounds really fucked up, and it kind of is in some ways, but it makes me laugh now.

We were having a family game night. It was myself, my ex, and Audrey. Her ex was not there, but it was the three of us playing, playing some board games and stuff. and I mentioned that the next day I was going on a motorcycle ride, and Audrey, who was in the thick of her own stuff and just needed a bit to distract her and relax and just kind of break free from everything she was going through, asked if she could come along, and I was like, yeah, absolutely. That's something, that was a sticking point, and I actually hated my motorcycle,

hated the fact that I ride. It was a sticking point many times over our relationship, and Audrey jumped at the chance to get on with me. And so we went on a ride, and it was, as soon as she got on that seat behind me, the electricity started flowing. Wow. And took off up the coast in California, got into some mountains, and did a little bit on the interstate. And there was one part that was, it was probably six hours into what turned into a nine hour ride. Right about six hours in, we stopped on this, this canyon road overlooking the Pacific Coast Highway somewhere around Malibu.

and I asked her what her favorite part of the ride was and she told me it was the twisty-cherny parts they're exciting and asked me what my favorite part was and I said well actually it's the interstate she says it seems kind of boring why is that your favorite part I said oh well you hold on tighter then stupid cheesy corny but it was like I wanted to share how I was feeling

and that was the only way I could like open that door and I realized after that she starts holding on tighter and wouldn't let go at stoplights and it just there was an energy that's hard to explain, hard to describe it. It was very palpable. And we both knew without even talking about it that our relationship completely changed in that one day. And since then, we've not spent, well, we've spent some time apart, but not intentionally. So. Yeah, but after that ride, I mean, do you go back and fuck in the woods

before you go home? I mean, like, when do you start having a physical relationship? No, I didn't, I didn't want to get, I didn't want to ruin our friendship because we had a really genuinely good friendship. And so I didn't, I didn't want my dick to get me in trouble, basically. So I literally rode that motorcycle probably about 100 miles an hour as fast as I safely could back to our street and I got her the fuck off the bike because I knew I couldn't be around her because I was going to do something stupid that my dick told me to do. And I just, I had to get her off the bike. So I rushed home, got her off the bike.

She went to her house. I went to my house. We ended up coming back together and later that night and talking and there was a lot of flirtation. And we lasted an entire week with some pretty heavy flirting going on. And I told her, I wasn't going to make a move. I said, as long as you don't make a move, I won't make a move. Well, after about a week, I told her, I said, look, I can't last anymore doing this flirting. I'm going to make a move if you don't tell me no.

We ended up coming back together and later that night and talking and there was a lot of flirtation. and we lasted an entire week with some pretty heavy flirting going on. And I told her I wasn't going to make a move. I said, as long as you don't make a move, I won't make a move. Well, after about a week, I told her, I said, look, I can't, I can't last anymore doing this flirting. I'm going to make a move if you don't tell me no. And we were actually having a very large barbecue. I'd smoked a brisket and had a bunch of people over and everybody was at my house.

And she had to run back across the street to check on her dog. and I knew she was the only one in her house, and I was out tending the brisket, and so I snuck over really quick and kind of pushed her up against the counter, picked her up by her ass, set her on the countertop, and just started kissing her, and it was just, that was a week after the ride, and from that kiss, things progressed very quickly.

And where would you guys cheat? So this makes it sound a bit more fucked up, which that's okay. Some of your listeners are going to absolutely hate this, and I get it. But we were both going through our own, divorces, right? I'd already told my ex I wanted to split. She'd already told her ex that she wasn't continuing the marriage. We were both military families. And so her ex was actually deployed. So he was gone. So we would just go to her house. Oh, okay. So that was a little easy.

It was super easy. Yeah, it was super easy. My ex was completely oblivious to anything going on around her. And her ex wasn't there. So she'd asked me literally say, hey, I need you, I need your help in the garage, getting something off of a shelf because she's pretty short and I'm a pretty tall guy. So we'd go to the garage to get something down and be furious making out. We'd end up in the laundry room for 30 seconds together. Cheating sex could be very charged. So I'm sure those first times were like unbelievable. Considering you also had all this chemistry, you're cheating.

It's the first time you're probably having good sex at a long time from the sounds of your wife. She'll talk a lot about this and her situation with. her ex, but I know that she wasn't very fulfilled, and she's extremely sexually charged. So, and I already had a reputation in the neighborhood because I'm very open with my sexuality and the things I enjoy. So I'm, I'm, I'm the guy that makes every conversation turn to sex. Like, it's just that's, that's, I'm just that guy. Yeah. And I really enjoy my sex life. And I really enjoy talking about sex and hearing other people's sex lives. That's why I listen to your podcast. That's really fun for me. And so,

I already had a bit of a reputation as a sexual person. So she kind of had, she was looking forward to our first time. And the first time I actually snuck over at 3 in the morning. It became a thing. 3 a.m. is a big thing for us. Anything that happens at 3 a.m. is always a great time for us because we did that for weeks. I snuck over. And at that point, we had already talked about all of our kinks because,

before we were going to actually take this sexual, we wanted to make sure it was something that we were going to be compatible with and this wasn't just going to be a one-time fucking ruin our friendship and ruin the kids' relationships and all that stuff. So I'd already told her all of my kinks, which I got, for a guy, I'm pretty out there on some of my kinks. Why don't you list them? Okay, so I really, really like anal play, but I like extreme anal play.

Like my big goal, my first big insertion was the top of a bowling pin. Oh, my, wait, at top of a bowl. Where do you find the bowling pin? Do you own a bowling alley? I mean, or you order one on Amazon? No, no. I had a bowling alley at my disposal on a location I was stationed at. It was a remote location and I could go in there any time and turn on the bowling alley.

And we didn't actually use it, but it was just kind of sitting there defunct. But I had access to all the bits and pieces I wanted. So I found a brand new bowling pin in a box and I made it my toy. and that was a fun toy for a while. I put a baseball bat one time with a thick end. I had a favorite color's purple, and I had a number four pool ball that I like to play with. That was fun.

But I like extreme anal insertion, so that's one of my big kinks. I really do like submissive play. I like being tired of. I like being physically hurt. I want to be spanked until I'm damn near crying. We've had some fun with that. We've had some missteps.

and we've learned a lot about each other, but I, she has really laid into me. We got a crop that just does some amazing things. And she has, she has fun, she has fun taking out any frustrations on me for sure. But I love nipple torture. I mean, your own or torturing somebody else? Mine, mine, mine. Yeah, my God. Like she damn there rips them off.

And if ever I'm struggling to get hard or stay hard, she just starts ripping on my nipples. that I am like a flagpole. But you knew that you had all these kinks. Like, were you ever able to live them out before you met Audrey? I mean, because your wife wasn't doing the stuff with you, was she? No, she made like a token effort to try. But it was usually after some of, like she, she tried to peg me a couple times. And that's another one.

I love being pegged. Yeah. Tried to peg me a couple times. But it was after those times that that's when the prayer and therapy talk would start. And so it was never, it was never something I could enjoy because there was never something she was interested in or would initiate. And for me, it's not fun. If my partner's not having fun, neither am I. Now, it's not hot if you know that the other person's just doing it for you.

No, it's like I really need my partner to be into it. So that way, like, like I get off. Like, I'm the guy, I eat, another big kink is oral. I love eating pussy. And I eat pussy for her pleasure. And so, like, I get off on her. having orgasms. Yeah, but don't you think that that goes with the submissive part of you?

I think that that's a very submissive kind of thing, right? That does. That does. I really want her to be pleasure. Like, her pleasure should always come before mine. There's just no other way to it. That's just a fact of life for me. Her pleasure must come before mine.

I also like pee play. And I don't, I don't just like getting peed on. I like getting peed on, but I like drinking it straight from the source. Oh, my goodness. I mean, she'll just unload a full bladder and I'll swallow every drop. That's a fun one. love eating cream pies and being snowballed as well. I like a lot of stuff.

And what's great about it is when I started, and I was extremely open with all of these kinks with Audrey before we had sex the first time. And I was honestly trying to scare her off. I was like, I'm going to make sure you know what you're getting into. And I don't care how open I am and how weird you think I am. But you are going to realize that I'm not the guy for you and you don't want to do this because I'm a freak. Yeah, yeah.

I got that. And the gleam in her eyes. when I talked about getting fisted and putting things in my ass, was damn near scary. She got so excited. Apparently that, and she'll talk about this again, but that had been a fantasy of hers for a long time, was fissing a guy.

And when she realized she had that opportunity, she got so excited. I was honestly a little scared night. It was one of our 3 a.m. meetups. I prepped myself really good before I went to sleep, and then I sat in alarm for 3 a.m. snuck out of the house. house went over and met with her and she fucking destroyed my asshole.

Oh my God. Wait, how long did you guys fuck each other before you left and blew it all up? Well, we actually got caught pretty quick. We got caught. We actually, probably about a month and then we decided to take a trip out of town together. She made her excuses to go away. I made my excuses to go away. And by this time, her ex had returned.

So we both went away and my kid decided. excited that they wanted to use my old Apple Watch at the park. And so my ex turned on my old Apple Watch, which I hadn't disconnected it from my phone. So she turns it on and all of the text messages start popping up. And so she's able to read all these nasty, naughty messages between Audrey and I. And what you did friends with Audrey, though? Because this is your neighbor. were, they were, not good friends, but they were, they were close enough that they would go out on, take the kids out on girl dates and stuff like that.

Oh my God. Oh, my God. I was the first one to take Audrey's kid fish in and like, I mean, we would, we were all pretty close, but, but Audrey and I were definitely the friends of the group, but we were each, because, you know, tried to keep it, again, there was never an intention with her and I to be sexual. And so trying to keep. things appropriate. I was friends with the ex-husband. She was friends with my ex-wife kind of thing because that was the appropriate roles. No, and let me ask you this, because I know that you, like, you weren't intending to be sexual, but once you were sexual, were you even intending at that point to be emotional as well? The emotional connection blossomed on that, on that motorcycle ride. Once we went forward, we had a very honest conversation with each other, and we decided if we're doing this, we're doing this all the way. We're pushing. our divorce us through as quick as we can and we're having a relationship and and we're going to

we're going to take it as far as as far as it'll go and well here we are now married on a home together and co-parenting and how many years well we've been married for just under two years now so wait so your wife finds out and then i mean you were already getting divorced though anyway correct she didn't know why though she just knew i was unhappy but i we we didn't We didn't tell them that we had anything going on. We weren't planning on telling them anything about us until the divorces were final. Yeah. But she finds the messages on the old watch, takes it across the street and shows Audrey's ex.

And they didn't call us or nothing. They waited for us to get back. Oh, my God. Come home from our trip to get confronted with the angry exes. And it blew up. And it was, yeah, there was a lot of drama. That in itself is probably a whole 30-minute story. But, yeah, that's crazy.

But I mean, in those text messages, was there like fisting and pissing and pee play and all that kinds? Was it that hardcore? There wasn't pictures that they ever found. And a lot of the messages weren't that descriptive. But there was a lot of I love views and, you know, talk about can't waiting, not being able to wait for the exes to be out of the picture. Oh my God. Yeah. That's bad enough.

That's worse. Yeah. It was, it was nothing that specifically. said, hey, we're fucking, but it was enough to know damn well that, hey, we're fucking. Yeah, and like I said, I'm sorry, but as a woman, it's worse to see your guy saying, I love you to somebody else. She'd rather you'd just be fucking because you're going to actually be in a relationship with the inside of that other woman. So to me, that's worse than seeing you fucking hurt, because then she can maybe just think it's like a fling, you know?

And I think that they both thought that was going to be the case at the beginning. And that they genuinely believe that confronting us was going to end. it. And it didn't. We actually just doubled down on everything at that point. And we're like, okay, well, now you know. So now we're not hiding anything. So it's us now. Sorry. And we just, we doubled down on it and push through the divorces, got the divorces done. And we got married. We actually had all of the children who were at the wedding. And it was a good time. So now when did you start living out all your other fantasies? I mean, you were like, she was fisting you before you even got divorced, like right from the get go. I mean, did you start

hooking up with guys and doing your threesomes and foursums together and stuff like that early on. I mean, how did it all that? Yeah. So, I mean, we've only been together a couple of years as a couple, right? So it's all happened pretty quickly. But we actually had an opportunity. We had no kids. They were with their respective ex partners.

And so it was an opportunity where we had just dropped the kids off with her ex. And we're driving back to our house. And we live in the South now. So we're driving through a couple of different states. getting back to our house and Audrey makes a count on Grindr as we're driving and we find somebody that looked entertaining and we never use his real name so I think I can say it. We call him lunch. That's his name and so we find lunch and we schedule a meetup and it works out and it was just totally kind of a spur of the moment decision and he comes over to a restaurant near our house.

We meet, we hit it off. We say, let's go back to our house. And sure enough, we start in on this threesome with another man, and he's going down on her, and she's laying on the bed, and he's kind of bent over between her legs, eating her out, and I start eating his ass, and I'm sucking his dick while he's been over from behind. And we fall into this pretty easy, you know, rhythm. And we each, I never fucked him. He sucked my dick. I sucked his dick. I never actually fucked him. I don't remember that first time if she pegged him.

me during that at all. I'm not sure if we used a dildo, but at one point towards the end, and he came a couple of times. I had popped up by Hager to make sure I was going to stay, you know, stout through the whole thing. And we'd all come multiple times. The other thing about Audrey, she's multi-orgasmic. She can have repeated orgasms. I think this morning she had, yeah, this morning she had six before she took over and started paying me. So we'd all come multiple times at this point, but it ends with me on my back, her sitting on my face and I really love like take my breath away, choke me,

make it difficult for me to breathe. I really, I really like that, like sit on my face. So she was sitting on my face just grinding away while he's between my legs fucking me and she's whispering in his ear for him to come in my ass and that just pushed him over the age and he came in my ass. And that was our first experience together with another partner, her first time seeing me with a man.

And my first time, other than the one quick little lunch break trist that I had had to experiment with years prior. That was my first time really getting to enjoy sexually another man. And we had, when he left, we went on and fucked for probably another hour after that because it was just so fucking hot and reliving all of it. I mean, we were both amazingly turned on, had a great experience with that. And the next one, unfortunately, I got, we ended up finding a girl that we brought back. Yeah, because Audrey's bisexual too. Yeah, yeah.

And she was one of those girls. And you've talked about these on your show where she wasn't really into women. She liked to make out. She was really there for my dick. Yeah, yeah. And I got extremely excited because, hey, here I am getting to fuck another woman with my wife. So I got a little overzealous, a lot overzealous. And I lost focus of Audrey and started focusing more on getting myself off and having my fun.

And so it kind of turned, that was like one of the big learning moments for us. us where I realize, I got to be a lot better about taking care of Audrey in these moments. It's not about me. We're creating a very vulnerable situation. And if I don't respect her, that's going to kind of ruin the entire moment for us. And it did. So that night, we stopped short of finishing, asked her to leave. And Audrey and I had a very long conversation.

We did come back together that same night and end up, I guess you've called it before, reclamation, sex, reclaiming. So we kind of reclaimed each other and it ended very well and we took the lessons away from it. But that was a rough lesson to learn. And then I've had some long-time friends that, you know, I fooled around with a little bit before. And we talked about having some sort of swinger activity with my ex, actually, but my ex was never into it. So nothing ever really happened there. And I've had some long-time friends that, you know, I'd fooled around with.

a little bit before and we talked about having some sort of swinger activity with my ex actually but my ex was never into it so nothing ever really happened there but these friends of mine became very close friends with Audrey when we hooked up we all four hit it off together and we had an opportunity that popped up where we ended up traveling to them and we didn't know for sure if anything was going to happen we hadn't planned but we left the opportunity open and And that ended up in a wild all night long fuck fest with the four of us with we everybody's mouth was on everybody. We didn't have time to prep for anal sex.

So I didn't fuck him. He didn't fuck me. But, you know, there was at one point where I was almost nutting because Audrey and the guy friend were both sucking me while his wife was sitting on my face. And it was just, it was, that was a wild, wild experience. And that was your guy friend from like your long time guy friend? My guy, my long time guy friend and his wife. I mean, I've known them since.

I mean, I'm 40 and we met in high school. Wow. So did he, did you guys always know you were both bisexual but just never hooked up with each other because you were married or something? He was the only person. I was, I'm very closeted. Back then I was very, very, and well, I was very open about sex minus my sexuality. I always told him.

We just kind of felt each other out. And we both knew we were both a little kinky, and so we just let the conversation flow and kind of came out to each other. There's very few people in the world that know that he has that bisexual side. It's kind of limited to maybe half a dozen people that know about him. But he and I always knew about each other. I mean, probably since the time we were each 20. But never did anything with each other. Other than a little bit of touching mutual stroking, never to completion, just teasing.

Yeah. Because we never wanted to cheat. That wasn't our goal. We didn't want to cheat on our spouses. So we were like, hey, this is fun. We want to do this. Let's see if we can get them on board. But we'd never do it without their consent.

And it just never happened until Audrey. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. And we all got together and made it happen. We had actually two nights of playing with them. So, yeah, we had a lot of fun with that. And of course, that night started on a hot tub with me in a chastity cage. So that was

And his wife was bisexual too I mean we're gonna we're gonna talk about Audrey because she's very into women as well Yeah she she had curiosity She had one really bad experience with a woman But was open to trying more And for her the reason that she never did anything is because trust is a big thing She has to feel very safe and I've known her for a long time

And I'm very good friends with her And I love her as a person can love a friend So like she felt very safe and comfortable with me Yeah. And so she was able to really, and getting to know, Audrey quickly felt safe and comfortable with her too. And so we were all four able to really relax into each other, knowing that our relationships are safe with each other, our friendships are safe with each other, our, you know, desires

to experiment, we're all going to be very, you know, caring and supportive of each other. There's no shame in anything. And so everybody was, I mean, as relaxed as you can imagine anybody being in any kind of sexual, interaction. It was the easiest, smoothest interaction to have. And again, it started out with us playing a little game just to kind of break the ice. And we're playing a dice game and depending on if you rolled an otter and even, you'd get to choose who you'd do something with. And I'd tell, I'd tell Audrey, hey, you got to go kiss her or suck on her nipples for 30 seconds. Little things are just a little game to start us off with. And it evolved into obviously once everybody was comfortable,

when we said we all knew hey we're all comfortable kissing we're all comfortable touching there was no jealousy that was popping up because that was we didn't want to dive into sex and have all this jealousy pop up so it's hey let's see each other with with all partners involved here and see if there's any feelings that pop up and if we want to stop and end this where it is and everybody is very comfortable so we progressed to the bedroom and it turned into full on you know full full swap situation where I was fucking his wife he was fucking mine and there was lots of times where we were all four fucking each other at the same time in some form, whether the vaginas being filled with cock or pussies on mouths, cocks and mouths, whatever. I mean, it was just any way we could move, we were moving. And that was two nights in a row you did. I know that you said the first night you guys weren't prepped, so there was no anal action. What about the second night? No, yeah, it was very, the first night was more mild play.

It was the second night that we got into the full swap. And we actually ended up, we actually ended up in their bed until about 4 a.m. And we're starting to, because they have kids that were in the house. And we're starting to worry like, okay, kids are asleep, but we don't want them to wake up and come looking for parents. Yeah. And all of us are, you know, a pretzel of naked bodies together. So we were like, we had to bow out and head back to our place. But that was the second night was the night that was really wild.

The first night was just hot tub, chastity, took a couple pictures, posted them on Reddit, got a lot of fun. interactions on Reddit from those pictures. Oh yeah, you guys are on Reddit. You like to do that? Is that a part of your guys king too? Like putting your picks up on Reddit and for people to see? We don't post every day, but we do. We have, I mean, if you looked at our Reddit accounts,

which I'd share with you if you wanted to look at it. But we have quite a bit of photos we've posted on Reddit. And we have fun interacting with that for sure. Do you want to give your Reddit out? Or do you want to keep that vibe? I don't care if we give it out. I wouldn't mind, but I'll let all. Audrey decide.

It's a fun time killer for us to go on there. And it's nice to get the compliments because there are some people that really what we put on there. There was one we put on that got quite a bit of attention. Again, back to I really enjoy extreme anal insertions. And Audrey really likes seeing how far she can push it. Yeah. I mean, she's got almost to her elbow, almost elbow deep in my ass. But one thing she really wanted to do, she set a goal without telling me, is that she wanted to get both fists.

at the same time in me, and she did it. And I managed to snap a picture of it. So we got a double fist picture up on Reddit that... Must get a lot of attention. Well, if you're into that stuff, there's not a lot of people doing it. It's very niche, but if you're into it, the people that are into it really like it. Yeah. You're very hardcore, like, in a certain way, for sure.

Because, like, you're into P-Play, but not just P-Play, but, like, you want to drink it. That's, like, taking P-Play to a whole other level. Like it's same with fissing. I mean, some people want to get fisted. You want two fists. Like, you'll take three fests. You're like, you're, uh, extremist. Definitely.

I, I, and that's something that we have to like moderate because I do tend to take things to the extreme. Yeah. So like chastity, we're having a conversation right now that's that we haven't really resolved it yet. But like for me, chastity is a lot of fun, but there's a part of it. Chastity cages, if you know anything about them, are pretty, escapeable, that they're not really going to stop you from doing something if you want to do something unless you have a piercing. And so I've been toying with the idea of getting a Prince Albert piercing in a cage that's designed to go through that that is fully inescapable. Like I, again,

that extreme side of me wants to take it to the next level. But that's a permanent modification that comes with a lot of other things that goes into it. And I tend to, I tend to get overzealous. That's my biggest flaw in all of this. And I have to rein myself back because I get over like with the one female we had, I got over excited and kind of sabotaged that. Oh, that one that she didn't feel comfortable with. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So I got to keep that in mind that I do tend to go a little too extreme sometimes. But maybe that wasn't even just your extreme nature. Maybe it's because, listen, you guys just started really quickly to do all kinds of things. and even professional couples that I know that do this all the time. There's always going to be times where jealousy might rear its ugly head sometimes. It's just depending on the way the wind fucking blows. Like you just don't know.

I don't know that it was definitely like, oh, your fault. I think people learn those things as they go. And there's just no way, I don't think, to prepare for every feeling that you're going to have when you open yourself up to this lifestyle. So I just think that that's how you learn by doing it. Yeah. And that's honestly one of the things we talked about before we came on. on the show is we wanted to portray this very honestly.

Yeah. Like we've made missteps. We've made mistakes. But we're accepting the mistakes. We've thoroughly discussed them after. And we try to grow from every experience because the lifestyle is something we're very interested in. And it's very hard to find a partner that's into all the kinks you're into. Yeah.

For sure. But we really do want to continue growing in the lifestyle. But also keeping your relationship. happy. I mean, you don't want to lose your relationship for it. And that's the line you're you want to toe. And that's what you're afraid of because you could be a little extreme. So hopefully Audrey is the moderate one in the relationship to pull you back a little bit. Moderate is very relative because she's also quite extreme. She enjoys going elbow deep in my ass. Yeah, I know. And I know you said you guys are like switch and you guys switch sometimes.

So I'm excited to hear about what Audrey's fucking into. Oh my God. Besides what she does to you, like what she's into for herself. I've definitely tied her up and blindfolded her and she she does like it when I'm more dominant and I don't know how far she's going to go into that, but she does like being dominated sometimes. And I have no problem doing it. I enjoy getting rough with her, holding her down and just if she's not a little bit scared while we're having fun, then I'm not doing it right. That's kind of my model. Like she needs to be a little nervous. Like we have safe words green yellow red the typical standard ones and then we've got like the hey this cuts it right now the ultimate safe word and we've we've each pushed ourselves that far to where we've each safe worded

once yeah yeah yeah and we don't want to go there we don't want to say ford we don't want to get right to that edge to where we're riding that high and so the times that we've safe forded that became a very big discussion to where we made sure we didn't repeat that but also we didn't want it to be a thing where, hey, we safe word it, so we're afraid to do this again. We don't want to be afraid of playing with each other and being extreme. So we really like to talk it out and make sure that we're understanding why we use the safe word and how we can get back to that edge without going over the next time. So luckily for us so far, we haven't, we have never stopped anything.

We continue to do all the play we've ever done. And we've grown a lot. And it's, you have to go through those growing pains, I think, and be willing to keep trying. That overcommunication is what it's all about. You really need to do that. That's the difference between the couples that are successful and that aren't. I mean, it's just a lot of being very open and a lot of conversations every step of the way to make sure that everyone's okay with everything, especially if you're doing these hardcore things too when you're very extreme.

But just opening up and fucking other people in front of each other and bringing other people into the relationships. I mean, you learn as you go, but as long as you're open with each other and honest with each other and not afraid to tell the other person that this is how you're feeling and the other person is respectable about how you're feeling, that's all good. That's reality. It's not going to be perfect. Yeah, there's a lot of vulnerability. And if you're going to make yourself that vulnerable, you need something that's going to respect that vulnerability and make you feel safe in that. So I have to feel safe. I'm, again, it was former military.

so in a very masculine, driven environment, and here I am, like in a suck dicks and get a fuck in the ass. But that's what it's always, that's how it always says. It's always this guy like that that wants to be a sub when he's the closer off. Yeah. So it's, but it's the situation where I needed to feel really safe to be able to share that. And it was before we even had sex, I knew I was safe with her. Yeah. And I knew I could share all of all of those secrets.

And I'll put it this way. She knows more. And we've been together for a couple of years now. I was with my ex for 20. Audrey knows more about me than my ex ever could imagine. We've shared so much more with each other, both in terms of our mental state, our desires, and actual things we've done.

So it's been a pretty wild ride. And we've definitely, we've been having fun so far. And we've got plans to continue growing in a lifestyle. This friend that we, this couple that we engage with, we're working on meeting up with them again so we can push that again. That was a very unplanned, but we definitely, we're looking forward to continuing this journey because we've got a lot more to explore and do. Yeah, well, I have a lot more to explore and do on this call.

And that is get fucking Audrey on because I want to hear her take on all this. I can't wait to talk to her. Listen, I love your openness and your honesty and your story. It's so interesting how extreme you are. I don't know that I've had someone on that wants to be double-fisted and into very large insertion. So thanks for sharing all of that. And like I said, being so honest about it. And thanks for getting your girl on board because we're going to talk to her now, too.

Yeah, all right. Well, let's search it over and get her to you. All right. Thanks, Bert. Thank you. Bye. All right. Bye.

Bye. Okay. Listen, Audrey, I'm assuming you're in the room. You heard everything that me and Bert talked about, but I need to hear your whole story now, too. or your side of things because extreme as Bert is, you have to be too, because you're keeping up with him. You're right there with him. Okay.

I'm not necessarily extreme in every way that he is, but we're very compatible and work well together for sure. Listen, the fact that you always had a fantasy of fisting a guy to me makes you extreme. I mean, most people aren't extreme as Bert, okay, but like you could do the hang. You're like compatible with him, so you're pretty. hardcore. But let's go back to the beginning. What was going on in your marriage? Was it that your guy was away all the time? Were you in a sexless marriage unhappy too? Like by the time you met Bert? So it wasn't that he was away a lot. It was more so that he was really selfish. I could have

not been there and he would have been totally fine. It was very much like a roommate kind of a situation was how my marriage was. I was, it felt like I was the mom, honestly. I did everything for him. I took care of our kids. I did everything.

And it was just like he couldn't have cared less. Wow. And it became really, really frustrating. And that was just in our day-to-day life. And then sex, it wasn't terrible, but I was really unsatisfied.

And, I mean, I'm in that marriage. I masturbated every day. Every day. Because you're a horny. Multiple times a day. Yeah.

Yeah. And I maybe had sex with him every 10 days, if that. Wow. We, one time we went almost an entire month because I was just so uninterested and unfazed. It, it was very, very vanilla. He didn't like doing anything out of probably the same like five or six positions and motions. Yeah. And it just, it was boring.

It got really, really boring. And I'm just, I'm a very sexual person and it just wasn't enough. and trying to express that to him, he very much tried to make it seem like it was me. And I was not okay with that. There were a couple of years where, you know, I tried to express to him that I was unhappy and I wanted to make it work and he just wasn't really interested in it. I think sometimes that guys, it's not that they're not interested or maybe they're not, but they also really aren't taking it seriously or something.

I don't know what it is, but so many men seem very good. blindsided by the fact that their wives want a divorce. But if you talk to the wife, like typically the wife has been telling the guy she's unhappy for years, but guys really don't listen. Women will tell you till they're blue in the face. By the time they want a divorce, they have exhausted every fucking option. Like they don't keep it under wraps. You know what I mean? No woman doesn't complain and then just break up with you. They complain and they complain and they complain. And the guy, like you said, seems uninterested or whatever it is. I don't know what it is with guys. But They're always like, I don't know what happened.

Like, she just divorced me. It's like, no, I know what happened. You didn't listen to her. Like, listen to your wife. She's telling you exactly how she feels. He'd the warning. Because when she's done, she's fucking done. Exactly.

And that's exactly what it was. It was three years of me telling him I was unhappy. Three years. And then he was getting ready to deploy. And I told him, I was like, look, I can't do this anymore. I've been telling you for years I'm unhappy. When you deploy, we'll move. And as soon as we move, I'm filing for divorce.

and we'll work it out from there. Because I just, I couldn't do it anymore. I was emotionally and mentally and physically exhausted. Yeah. And at that point, Bert and I were already really good friends, like he said.

And so when he talks about the motorcycle ride, I was going through the process of dealing with my ex and his reaction to me telling him I wanted a divorce. So he's calling me every day and he's like trying to make it work. and telling, begging me and, and how can I fix this? And I was done. But isn't it unfortunate that that's the way it always goes? The guy is always like, what? And then they're trying to change. It's like, no, you were, you needed to do that three years ago. It gets too little, too late. And once the woman has zero hope, you're never going to get it back. Like, women will go on one percent

hope for years. But once it's all gone, no hope, bye. That's what guys don't get. Exactly. And I mean, we had been together for 14 years, married for 12. And we had two kids together. Am I really going to separate my family and this marriage for this? And it just got to the point where it was like, I have to. For my own self-care, I had to. Yeah. So now, so you're going through that. Had you ever thought about Burt before that motorcycle ride? No. When he says we were 100% platonic. and it was just pure friendship. It genuinely was. I did not look at him like that.

And it was funny because he always would make flirtatious comments to the neighbors and stuff like that. But he never made those comments to me. And I always was a little offended. And I was like, what am I not good enough for you if you don't want to flirt with me? But turns out he thought I was like, well, he thought it was like super prudish, which is hilarious to think now. But I was very reserved. And you know, when it comes to my personal life, I kind of tend to. to be that way.

And so I just kind of kept things to myself, and so not a lot of people knew. So we started kind of talking a little bit more, and he kind of started realizing, okay, maybe there's more to her than I thought. And then I especially think the second he said something about the motorcycle ride, and I parked up, and I was like, yes, I'm a huge thrill seeker. I love stuff like that. And so I was very up for it. And he, I think, was shocked when I initially was like, yes, I want to go.

And then I'm not going to lie, I walked across the street that morning. And this is the first time I honestly ever looked at him that way. But I walked across the street that morning. And he's standing there in jeans and motorcycle boots and that motorcycle jacket. And I, like, I could have creamed my pants right there. And it was surprising. It was unexpected. But, like, he said, we went back to the house.

We each went our separate ways. I went back to my house. I was actually building a couch. I had just bought a couch. I was trying to put it together. And so I walked back across street and I was like, hey, I actually need help doing this. So he ended up coming back over. His ex-wife came over for a little while.

But yeah, like he said, well, she wasn't there. There was a lot of flirtation. And we went to go throw all the boxes away at the dumpster. And we kind of had talked about like how the ride changed. The ride changed us. Something clicked and something was different now. And that's when we had the whole conversation of, well, I'm not going to do anything. And he says, well, I'm not going to do anything.

And we're like, okay, well, you know, if you're not going to make a move and I'm not going to make a move, we're fine. Right. Yeah. But that week of flirting was so intense. And I have a really big, like I have an audio fetish. And like my love being having my ears played with and stuff. So he would do shit, like lean in and whisper in my ear. And it was so unfair.

because we already made the decision we weren't going to do anything, but he was doing that pretty much the entire week. Like taunted. So you couldn't wait. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then so you guys start like fucking like, when do you realize that he's into fisting and you have this fisting thing? I mean, because you fisted him very early on.

I mean, that's kind of like hardcore to me. Yeah. So in that week, we kind of, the week before we ever did anything, we let everything out. he had mentioned, so we started talking about what kind of porn we watched. And he said something about pegging. And I was like, oh my gosh, I've always wanted to do that. My ex-husband wouldn't let me anywhere near his ass.

So this was like something that I was like, yes, I want to do this. Like this is something I've always wanted to do. And then he kind of was, oh, well, this is the extreme that I take it to. And I was like, oh, I could totally do that. And it. So, yeah, I told him it was probably maybe two or three nights in. I was like, just make sure you're really clean because this is happening. And I don't think he actually believed that I was going to do it.

I had my mindset. And it turned you on. I mean, that's something that you were into. Did you always realize you were a little dumb? No, I actually honestly thought I wanted to be dominated more so. But like he said, it's funny because I'm short. I'm 5'4. Yeah.

And he's a little over six foot. And so, I mean, he's a bigger dude and there's a little bitty knee completely dominating him. And I love every second of it. I love having that control. But I also have that in a lot of my life in general. So it's not surprising that it transfers over to that room. Yeah. I mean, the fact that you like, you know, pegging him and fisting him, that is being the

Dom for sure. I mean, I know that he said that you guys like to switch and sometimes he likes to be the Dom and he likes to be a little bit more forceful with you. That happens too, but you really enjoy that aspect of it. And what's great is he loves being a sub. So you guys were so perfectly suited for each other, like right from the get-go. But there's not, I mean, no person is going to be 100% on the same page with everything that you like, but we're pretty damn close. And especially coming from the relationships we had before, coming to somebody who even likes 50% of what you're into has been amazing. Yeah, yeah. No, and I think, listen, he's into some really hardcore things for a guy. So for him to find a woman who's not only accepting of it, but also down for it.

Because there's one thing for someone to accept it and play around because that's what you're fucking into. It's another thing to have your partner not only accepting of it, but like down for it because they're turned on by it. You're not fisting him because he likes to be fisted. Like you, you get off on it too. So I think that that's a big thing that adds to it. Yeah.

And I mean, we discover new stuff every time we play. And it's so fun. Literally this morning, we found a new thing that I like. And it's a form of controlling him and torturing him. And, you know, I got off on doing it.

So how are you torturing him? So he was really, really close. We were just having regular sex and he was really, really close, but he didn't want to come yet because I was going to pay him afterwards. And so he was trying to hold out. Yeah. And so I was like, okay, that's fine. Don't come, but you can't take it out of me.

And so I sat there rubbing my clit and kind of rocking on him back and forth. And I got off on knowing that he's inside of me. He can feel everything that I'm doing that he knows he can't come and he knows he's going to get punished if he does. and it's just that form of domination is super fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, how did you feel like, I mean, because he's like very into peeing. And like I said, his whole stuff is like he doesn't just want you to pee on him. He wants he to pee in his mouth and he's going to fucking drink it.

I mean, like, well, how soon into your relationship did he put that one on you and like how into it were you? So that one came a little bit later. I knew about it. I was a little bit more shy about that aspect of it. peeing on him didn't faze me. Peeing in his mouth, it was a little weird getting past a psychological aspect because it was more so, not that I was grossed out, right? It was more so, okay, I'm not sitting on a toilet.

I'm sitting there for my husband's mouth. And so trying to get myself to it was a little bit different. It does not go the other way, though. I have no problem doing it to him. I love how much he loves it. I enjoy doing it for him. but I don't want it done to me. Like, I have no desire to go there.

That's probably the only place where we're like, oh, no, that's where you can have your fun and I'm good on this side of things. I was going to ask you, though, if he gets to fist you too. I mean, I know you fist him. Do you get down for that as well and for anal play? Not anal. I do, I do, I enjoy anal, not to the extreme that he does. I'm very much more reserved.

He fucks me in the ass. I have a plug. I have a dildo that's, sometimes goes up there, but he fist me vaguely, and I love that. Okay, well, that's hardcore. Yeah. You like that. I mean, I'm assuming he was the first person that did it to you.

No. No? So when I was, no. So when I was in high school, I actually dated a girl. And so her and I explored, got to explore that whole side. I mean, granted, it's a woman, so a lot smaller fist. Oh, so you had a girl. girlfriend in high school.

Yes. Yes. And you guys fisted all the time. That was your best thing. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. It was a weird relationship because she was also dating a guy. But I had nothing to do with the guy. Like I wasn't in a relationship with the guy. We would hook up the three of us sometimes. But their relationship was separate from our relationship. And so that

was a kind of weird relationship for me for sure. But that's where you, so you were, so you were fisted before. So you knew you were into it because of that relationship. And that's when you knew you were bisexual too, right? Because I know he told me you're both by. He is, you are. Correct? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. And then, you know, you've done all these kinds of things. Now, when you wanted to play with that first couple, I know he said it was like a little weird, it was the first woman, actually. It wasn't a couple, right? It was just like the girl that you brought in. So the first, so the first one was a guy that I had found on Grindr. Oh, right. That guy. Tell me about that one.

Yeah. And like he, not to get into too much detail of his life, but, you know, we still talk to him occasionally every now and then. And he has every intention of, you know, when he comes back in town trying to reach out back out to us. And he was a great first experience for us as a couple. Because we were able to talk to him and kind of tell him what we were comfortable with. We found out what he was comfortable with. We knew his situation and his story. And I think a lot of that is kind of where it maybe didn't go as well with the female is because we went to a friend's birthday party. And honestly, I picked her up. I was the one who was like, I like her. I want to bring her home and play with her. Like I liked her vibe and everything.

But we didn't have that opportunity like we did with lunch to kind of meet and go over things at first. It was more of like a pickup at a bar and take her. home and a lot of alcohol involved, so emotions are even higher. And it just, it, and then not being a good situation in the moment, but we definitely learned and grew from it. So that, there's always something positive to take out of it. Yeah, like I told him, I mean, I know, even the most professional couple, sometimes there'll be a little jealousy there. I just think the key of all of it is that if it does come up and it does, and it will, and you never know, because that's just your human beings.

It's just a matter of being able to feel comfortable enough to be honest with your partner and for them to be cool. Like he was very, he felt really bad. He could tell that you didn't feel right about it. And he was like never want to do that again because he doesn't want to fuck with your feelings. And that's what it's all about. It's not that that kind of stuff is never going to happen. You never know.

I hear it all the time. But it's just a matter of you knowing that you could say, hey, I'm not cool with this and that he's going to respect you. and him really respecting you and not doing it again and being conscious of the other person's feelings. Because that girl was a unicorn. You just picked her up. She doesn't know what the fuck is going on. I know.

Well, it was funny because we were actually competing with another couple too because another couple was hitting on her. Oh, no way. She was like, I went home with the wrong couple. Well, it was funny because the other couple ended up leaving because the wife was a little too tipsy. So they ended up leaving. And so that kind of should have been my first sign because she like stopped talking to us and broke away from us to go hang out with them more.

And then when they left, she came back to us. Right, right. I kind of had a weird vibe about that. So I kind of wish I would have went with my instincts. But it is what it is. Yeah. And you learn from that experience. And that's what it's all about.

I mean, you guys are just doing this for the past couple. I mean, you've done a lot considering, but you've been with each other not that long. It's not like you're 10 years into it. You're kind of still newbie. So I think that it's all learning experiences and it's great to learn. What was it like that first time, though, with the guy with lunch, seeing your guy with another guy, that was the first time you saw Guy on Guy Action, right? Did you realize like you were really turned on by it?

Did you always know you were? So I always knew that I like watching Guy on Guy. I watch gay corn all the time. I think it's hot. And so, yeah. So getting to see Bert doing that was amazing. And also for me, it was like, I knew he had wanted that experience again. So getting to make that happen for him was super exciting.

And like I said, for a first experience, that could not have gone better. And I'm super happy. I think he was super happy with hell it went. And yeah, I mean, it was hot. There was one point where I was just sitting off to the side and they were 69ing. And I was like, this is freaking amazing. How often do you get to sit there and watch it live? No, you sound like the cuck husbands that I talk to.

I mean, that's a part of what they love. They love to see their girl fucking other guy because it's like what they're typically seeing on porn, but it's like their girl in front of them. And for you, it's the same thing. You're always watching guy on guy action. Now here's the guy and guy action, but it's your guy, right? And you're watching it. So it's like double the pleasure.

Now, what about that experience with his friends and that couple? I know that went really well. It did. And I was genuinely nervous about it at first because, like he said, he had known him both of them for a really, really long time. Yeah, you're like the odd person out. They knew his ex and the two wives were friends and they did stuff together with kids a lot and everything. So that kind of made me nervous because obviously marriages did not end well. And there's no way that that wife didn't know or didn't even.

hear a mouthful about you when you cheated on her with his ex-wife. Do you know what I mean? Like, she probably went it to that girl and was like, oh my God, can you believe this neighbor? Blah, blah, blah, so she knew about you. So which, so I'm, I don't know that that actually happened because what's weird is on each side we had the splitting of the friends. Yeah. Some sided with them, some sided with us. And they were the couple they cited with us. And so, and they, I think they also knew that Bert was unhappy too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was a really big thing to see him happy now and to like, they actually

listened to his side of the story. And no, it's not the greatest. We didn't go about it the right way for sure. We messed up. But when you hear what we kind of had been going through for years, these people understood. And, but still coming in as the new person, it was, it was weird for sure. And then also I'm very much a type of person. I have to know you and kind of sit there and talk to you for a little bit and feel your vibe.

And I didn't get to do that in person with them before like that first night. Interaction. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was kind of weird. We did talk on the phone with them a lot. A lot of sexting back and forth with them for a while. And through that very much the friendship grew. And I think they grew to trust me and I grew to trust them.

I still wasn't sure about the wife because at first, I wasn't sure she was going to be my type. Yeah. But she's very, very different in person versus on the phone. She's one of those people. And in person, she was so much fun. And we clicked. And then even with her husband, like he and I clicked. And it seriously ended up being such a fun night.

and we can't wait to do it again with them. And it was two nights that first time. Yeah, yeah. And I thought it was going to be awkward because we even went to brunch with them after the two nights. And it wasn't at all. We just sat there for friends talking.

And there was full swaps. You saw him with the wife. And there were no ill feelings like when that other woman was involved. No, not at all. I actually really enjoyed seeing the two of them together. It's something I kind of wanted for each of them. Yeah. And it was fun. Like Bert said, at one point, he was laid out on the bed and she's sitting

on his face and me and the husband are sucking his cock. And it was like, that was the greatest thing ever. That was so much fun to see that, to see him having so much pleasure and so much attention on him. And he was just, I know he enjoys stuff like that. So it was fun. Yeah. It's crazy. I mean, what could be left on your guy's bucket list? I mean, you've kind of been there, done that. I mean, he's very into all kinds of things. Is there anything like that you are really into that you want to happen that hasn't happened yet?

Yeah, I really want to do a cuck situation because we have not done that yet. And what does that look like for you when you, what does a cuck situation mean to you? Like, I, I, we do Chastity Play. And so I want him locked up and I want him locked up for a good period of time before I bring in somebody else and just have my way with them right in front of him and then he's going to clean up the mess. Oh my God. And you even get a bitchy tone to you when you say that. He must have a he must have a heart on right now if he's listening. You're like already you clicked into Dom mode right there.

I heard it. I can very easily click into that and I love doing it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And let me tell you, I always say this to little Dom girls. like you are like the unicorn. That's the other unicorn that exists. I think most women like to be the submissive. Even you thought you were more into being submissive because I think that's just

the natural way of women. The majority do. But so I think if you're a woman that could do the dom thing, you're a hot commodity because so many guys want to be domed. They might not admit it. A lot of guys do admit it. I think there's more out there that don't, but they do. And they would love nothing more than their girl to dominate them. But I just think a lot of girls don't have it in them. So it's so cool that you do because it's rare. Well, and I think a lot of times, too, guys are afraid to ask for it. Yeah, for sure. I think so, yeah, for sure.

Because they think it, like, is emasculating or makes them, yeah. 100%. And what they don't understand, and I know, because I've been doing my show, that the most masculine men are the ones that want it the most. And it's because that's the switch. That's the release. That's why those kind of guys like it. It just makes sense.

So, and I think if they understood that, Maybe they'd be less afraid to sort of cop to it, but I do think that a lot of them keep it under wraps, for sure. But any girl listening, like your guy, that macho guy that you got, the manly man, man, he's the one, right? The alpha guy, he's the one that wants to lean over and have you peg him or smother him or whatever. Yeah, I agree.

And it's funny because I heard this from so many people. A lot of guys don't even realize it until their woman just kind of like slips a finger in there. And they're like, whoa, what was that? and then it's a complete game changer for him. And do you get into pegging him and all that kind of stuff too? Because that's like the job. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, you love it. Oh, yeah. So it was really interesting. This was a week or two ago, I think it was. I was pegging him. And I came from pegging him for the first time. Wow. And was there anything on your clit or inside of you?

Was it a toy that had something on it? Yes. So we have a couple of them. I have the full harness. Yeah. That kind of like straps you in and everything. And that's what I had been using for a really, really long time. Uh-huh.

And then Burt was like, oh, I want to try out this one and see what you think. And it was a fieldo. And so it's got like the bulb on the end that goes inside of me. Yeah. And then it's got the dildo that comes out. And so what I'll do just to give it a little extra support after I put it inside of me is I put a thong on. And it just kind of helps cradle it a little bit. so I don't have to hold as tight inside of me.

And so then I just, I had him bent over and I was standing up on the bed. And I was just going to town and just the motion of the position that I was in, I was like, oh my gosh, I'm about to come. And he was like, oh, that turned him on even more for sure, the fact that I was going to get off from pegging him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what he was saying.

I mean, he's a pleaser. He likes to please. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And do you get into the whole Reddit, thing too, like as far as putting yourself out there and having people appreciate your stuff? So I do have a Reddit.

I do have stuff content on there. Like he said, we don't really do it for the followers or the likes or anything. It's more of just, we like doing it. I was shocked by the amount of feedback I get on them sometimes because I don't think that great of myself. But women are always more critical of themselves than they should be. Yeah, for sure. But people enjoyed it. And so every now and then I'll get back on there and I'll add a new post if I'm kind of feeling froggy.

I mostly use it to look at other people, to be perfectly honest. I mostly use it for porn. Oh, that's interesting. That's cool. Yeah. So listen, he said, so you don't want to give out your Reddit, right? Do you want to give it out? No, like I said, I, we don't do it for followers.

It's not like we're like trying to gain a bunch of people and get anything out of it. We really do it for fun. No problem. So listen, but if you like to look at people, I'm going to give you guys free access to my Discord. My little Discord is turning into like a Craigslist, okay? I don't get involved in it, but there's like over 2,000 people now on there. And what's great about Discord is my listeners are allowed to post videos and pictures themselves, right? Because I only deal in R-rated stuff. So on my Patreon, you'll send me some R-rated picks of you if you want, and I post those,

and they're always anonymous. But on my Discord, people could post whatever they want. And they could talk to each other and people are like hooking up. I'm getting emails from people like, oh, I fuck this one and I'm meeting up this one and when people are post pictures, like I said in video. So you could do whatever you want on there. And even if you just want to go in there and look around, like you said, you like to look, there's a lot of stuff on there. So I will give you guys free access to my Discord. If you want to just look, if Bert wants to say, hey, I'm Bert from this episode and talk to people. You're more than welcome. I do like for you guys to do that if you want to. But I'll give you guys free access to that. We won't give out your Reddit, but if people want to see you, will you send

me in picks of yourself for my Patreon? Like R-rated, sexy picks, like anonymous? Absolutely. We can definitely do that. All right. Awesome. So you guys send me that for my Patreon. Your episode will be on very soon. Thank you so much for calling in. I mean, I, like, I don't know if you heard me talking to Bert, but I was like, oh my God, I could have talked to Bert for a fucking hour because he's so hardcore extremist. And then after talking to you about your little lesbian relationship and all the stuff you're into and the Dom side of you, I probably could have talked to you. I probably could have talked to for an hour. I might have, should have done an hour with each of you, but we did go way over an hour, and that's cool. I don't mind because I really didn't want to cut bird off at like 30 minutes.

I let him go long. I let you go a little long. I think it's a great story. I think it is, listen, not every cheating story is terrible. I mean, like you said, it started out wrong and it was the wrong way to do it. But when people cheat and but they do wind up in relationships that are better and 20 years from now, you're still together. Well, then maybe that's just the way things were supposed to happen. And so at least it wasn't for nothing. It wasn't just for a romp in the hay. I mean, you guys have a real relationship. You're really in love. You're both in better relationships and happier. And hopefully your exes will eventually wind up in that place as well themselves. So thanks so much though for calling in and being as open as Bert was. My listeners are going to love

you. And tell Bert, thank you too. And send me that stuff as soon as you can for Patreon. We'll do. Thank you so much. Thanks, Aji. Thanks for calling in. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like, there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story.

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