Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1083 - Bo is Into Hooking up with Men, Couples, Trans Women and More

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

Bo is into hooking up with men, couples, trans women and more and he canned in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how he was molested by a trans woman when he was younger, how he told his mother and how she reacted, how he was always attracted to feminine boys moving on, the first guy he started hooking up with when he was younger and the threesomes they had together too, his double life of hooking up with women and secretly hooking up with guys and how he felt about it, how his cousin tried to out him and why he didn’t, how he got into drugs and how that led to him doing freakier stuff, the crazy things he did while high, how he has always preferred to have a connection with someone and is aways safe when he plays, his first marriage and why it ended, how he would cruise gay clubs to pick up guys, the trans woman he met on Craigslist and how he hard he fell for her, what went down between them and how they remain friends until now, the couple he met on adult friend finder and what went down with them, how his current wife caught him cheating on her, how he confessed that he’s into guys to her and how she reacted, how and why they’re still both in denial about it and how he wants to get to a better place plus a whole lot more.  **To see HOT, anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors:  https://butterwellness.com/ For 20% off your Butter Wellness perineum massager use code STRICTLY https://bluechew.com Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON https://beducate.me/march2025 Use code anonymous to get an additional 10% off the campaign’s current discount - that’s 60% off Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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a free trial to check it out. Okay, today I have on Bo. oh my god, I could have talked to Bo for another hour. I feel like you needed some more advice at the end. But Bo has a super interesting story. He's very into feminine guys. He was molested by a trans woman when he was really young. And I think that set him up for stuff in the future.

He talks about that first experience. And then talks about how he was like very sexually active after that. And he started like hooking up with guys when he was young. But always very feminine guys. It was always like kind of on the DL. he was screwing a lot of girls at the same time. He was a bad boy, for sure, and he talks a lot about that. He got a very into drugs, and he got married once, and that didn't work out, and he was always cheating on her with chicks, and not guys. And at a certain point, he put guys aside, but then, you know,

he got divorced and went back onto Craigslist and did all kinds of crazy things. He, though, admits to the fact that he's not into just, like, hooking up, like, with random guys. He really actually likes to have connections with guys. There is a trans woman. in his life who he really likes, especially since, because he talks her all the time and has gotten to know her a lot. He's had a lot of hookups over time, but he prefers the hookups when he really knows the people. He's kind of teetered on the, like, the lines of like swinging and stuff. He had a couple he hooked up with, and he talks about that. He's been with masculine guys, but he really likes the feminine ones, and he's definitely the dom, the dominant one in the relationship. And recently,

he came out and just confessed everything to his girl because she always thought that he was into guys. She was right. And he finally came clean. But even after he confessed, they're not at a point where like anything got resolved. They're kind of still sweeping it under the rug. The conversation with his girlfriend and him coming clean happened very, very recently. So it'll be very interesting to hear, you know, what's going on between the two of them, six months from now, now that she has this information. I think it's a lot, it's a lot for a woman to swallow.

You get his whole story, it's super interesting. So I'm going to be right back on with Bo. Hey, Bo, welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? All right, Kathy. How are you doing today? I'm good. How are you, Bo?

Oh, man, I'm all right. I'm doing good. It's Friday. Well, listen, you, I think you're doing good because you, well, I don't know how the story's going to go. This is as much as I know about you. I have you in my phone as came out as by confession. You called into my Confessions Outline and talked about how you recently confessed to your girl that you were by.

And I think that that's like a really fucking big move, you know, to do and must be very freeing. I don't know how she reacted. I don't remember, but we're going to get the whole story, right? Let me get a snapshot, though, right now of where you're at. How old are you and how long you've been with your girl and are you guys married? What's your deal? I am 46. Been with my girl for now 13 years.

Oh, that's a long time. Yeah, yeah, we've been together for a long time. I kind of like, we kind of like ran into each other after I got divorced and kind of, you know, first along the way I told her like, you know, I'm not really looking for nothing serious, but then things progressed and happened. We ended up with a kid together. And we've been together ever since. Lately, she's been wanting to be married, but there's a lot of things that's going on in our relationship.

Like, I don't, I have a thing with me, I don't care to be married. It's like I've done it. don't care to be married again. It's not all cracked up with what everybody thinks it is. I'm like, hey, I just pay for you to have my last name and be done with it. Yeah, right. You have everything except the paper, the legal paper. But let me ask for this.

Was she ever married? How old is she? No, she is 40. I'm 46. Yeah, she's 44. She's never been married. But it's like it's this big, yeah. Yeah, well, tell her, give me a free pass to hook up with guys and I'll marry you.

I think that's a good trade. I say if she allows you to do that, you better, you just fucking marry her. I mean, well, you'd be crazy not to. She's very, very selfish. Very selfish. You've been with her 13 years. You must love selfish girls. She's not having it.

Okay. Well, we're going to get to that. But let's go back and get your story about like being into guys to begin with, right? Plus, you were married before. You know, I want to get that story. Like, when are you doing guy shit or behind people's backs? I don't know. got to ask you a million questions.

But let's go back to like when you were younger. Like when did you even realize that you were into guys? Okay. So when I was young, I was molested by transsexual. You're kidding. Was it like someone in your family or like a? No, it was a neighbor. It was the neighbor's brother.

How old was he? It was a trans man or a trans woman? Trans man. Like a trans, he was a man as a woman. Okay. So he was a neighbor. That's called a trans woman. So it was a trans woman, but he wasn't fully transitioned and he molested you as a trans woman.

How old was he? Right. He had to be in his 30s. Wow. How fucked up? At the time. Did you tell people? And I was like fucking young, but I was wild.

Yeah. I told my mom and they didn't believe me. I had to go tell his brother and sister. And they gave me his ID to take to the police. I gave it to my mom and my mom told me we shouldn't have been playing with him. Oh, my God. That's old school. parents are so like that this point in the wrong plan.

Oh my God, it's your fault. Like what the fuck? Like what type of shit, right? So I'm not going to lie. Like that kind of like, like you said, kind of set the stage for my sexual curiosity going along the way. Let me just ask you a quick question because you're like, oh, I got the license. Did you go to the cops?

No, I took his license to my mom. Oh, okay. So you told the kids and they gave you the information. Then you went to your mom and she was like, and she shut up. I went to his family. Yeah, yeah. I got a family. Like, hey, this is what happened.

Yeah. Can I talk you all in private? Yeah. And they gave me his idea. It was like, go to the police about it. Right. Okay. So they were like, do what you got to do.

And your mom shut it down and then, and so it was never talked about after that? Nope. Never talked about again after that. Fuck. It's terrible. You know, listen, every generation is so much more evolved. I don't know if you have kids, but like, hopefully you're going to be like better than your mom was with you. And then our kids will be better.

with their kids, you know, but like, you know, like, even my parents, it's just like they're from a different generation and the way they dealt with things. It's like, I'll just sweep it under the rug. Didn't fucking happen. But it really, I was chosen though. I think I was chosen. I think I was chosen because I, the mother, he would, well, she will always like mess with me. Like, always say little stuff to me, like, you little handsome self and this, that and the third. And well that's called grooming. Yeah, grooming. Yeah, she was grooming you.

Yeah. And then I woke up one night with my penis and them off. Oh my God. Like in the dark, in the room. I feel something wet and I woke up. And yeah, I was getting sucked off. And I'm like, what the fuck? I was in shock like.

I had to be like 10.11. Oh my God. That's awful. I mean, you laugh now, right? And you're just telling the story. But that's like a very traumatic thing to have happened. you're at that day age. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. It's set the stage. It set the stage for other shit. That's for sure. Yeah, because after that, like, what happens? I mean, you got wired in a certain way. That's like a hard. That's like a crazy first experience. And you, you know, you're really young and your, your hormones are surging because you're probably like just going through puberty. Right. So it's a very, that's very confusing. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So nothing happened with that. Did the guy, did she ever? do anything to you again or did she stay the fuck away because she knew she got caught she got kicked

out and i never seen her again oh okay thank god thank god the family yeah she got kicked out from around like the family believe me like yeah the wife the it was the husband's brother yeah yeah oh used to say things to him like hey stay the fuck away from these kids stop playing with these kids yeah yeah and when that when i came to her with that she packed this shit up immediately and got them to fuck up out of there. Oh my God. Thank God for her. Thank God for her.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank God. Okay. So she sent that away. So you never had that experience again. Okay.

So then what happened after that? Just like, just I was always attracted to feminine boys. Like, I was always fucking. I've been fucking for a long. I've been sexually like active for a long time. Like, I was like a little, you know, lover boy. and shit with the ladies and shit, but, like, always had that side of me where I liked it feminine,

femininity and submissiveness. You know what I'm saying? And, like, anything that was just feminine to me, it was like, all right, cool. So even a guy that's feminine is all right, cool is what you're saying. Right. Like, you're, and listen, sometimes, like, I mean, I know that you said you're just like a little womanizer when you're young,

you know, and you're, like, really sexually active. But, you know, when you have something like that put on you, sometimes you do act out sexually even more so. I mean, not to say that you weren't really into sex anyway regularly, right? Most guys are. Yeah, I was messing with a lot of older, a lot of older girls was like, I was doing a lot of older girls and women and, you know what I'm saying? Like doing a lot of wild shit.

Yeah, I think people act out when stuff like that happens to them, they act out a little bit more sexually. That definitely probably happened to you, you know, when you were always going after older women. I mean, that person was very old, too. I mean, that wasn't just, you know, you weren't molested by a teen. This person was way older than you. Okay, so listen, if you haven't listened to my show for that long and you just started,

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person was very old too. I mean, that wasn't just, you know, you weren't molested by a teen. This person was way older than you. So you lost your virginity early on. Now, when did you start hooking up with either, like, you know, consensually, like with guys. Like, when did that start playing in your life? Well, I was introduced to this one, well, he was like, how was I? Like, probably like, shit, 18, yeah, the 17, 18. I was introduced to this real feminine guy. Okay. somebody I knew and we all would hang out and stuff and smoke weed and shit and drinking shit and then one day he just asked to suck my dick and I was like uh fuck it like okay like that's like guys for you know right I'm like okay uh yeah so you know we would mess around here and there periodically

but like I had to turn it off because like it started being like stalkish like I woke up one day he was at my house in my room like standing over me like saying my name what the fuck's wrong with you and like I'm trying to keep it a fucking secret because I'm like at this time I'm running around with gangs and shit my friend like what fuck is this dude like who the fuck is this feminine ass dude popping up looking for you all the time like what the fuck going on I'm like nobody's my friend yeah they're like dude you fuck this is weird what's what's going on so like I hear I was hiding shit and you know what I'm saying yeah shit like Yeah, you have to be careful. Off and on, I would do things.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I will have an urge for it off and on throughout my life. Let me ask you a quick question, though, because you said the guy, like, blue, you asked you to, like, suck your dick, whatever. Like, how far did you go with that guy and how far did you start going with guys at that point? Oh, I fucked him. Fucked him in his girl. You didn't tell him.

What do you mean? You know, he had a girlfriend, too? Yeah, he had a girlfriend. I fucked him and his girlfriend. I've always been in some weird sexual situations, man. Like, man, I had a crazy sexual life. So crazy experiences. I think people could smell freaks from a month.

You know what I mean? Like everyone's like magnets are attracted to each other, you know? For better or for worse. But anyway, wait, so you, so that feminine guy had a girlfriend, but and she obviously knew. And so you would have threesomes with them. Mm-hmm. Wow.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, separately? I fucked her with him. Yeah, I did fuck her with him. Yeah. But me and him would, like, it would be separated. And she didn't know. I think she knew, but she didn't say shit.

That's even worse. Because he always wanted to spend time with me. And it was like, he was older. He was a little bit older than me, but it was just like, he was more like a girl. So, like, he would give me money and shit and, like, take me places and shit, do whatever the fuck I wanted. Like, I was just like, well, all right, fuck it. It's just a little thing.

Right, but this was a very secret life that you were doing. And this was the first experience, like I said, consensually that you were with, right? And did you enjoy it? I ain't going to lie. Yeah, until it was over with. And I was like, get the fuck off of me. Like, I'm not laying up with you. Like, no.

Fucker with, no. I'm not, no. So post not clarity, you're like, get the fuck out of here, but you like it when it's happening. Right. Right. But afterwards you're like, what the fuck? In the beginning.

Right. I would assume that's a lot of people's first experience. Maybe now that doesn't happen, I don't know. But that first time you were like afterwards, like get away. But you went back. Right, exactly. Because I come to find out sometimes the males are better than the girls. Really?

Why do they get better had? Oh my God. Like, fuck. Like, I might not can't even nut from a girl giving me head. But guys, oh, man, my fuck, I milk. That shit is crazy. Oh, my God. I don't know if you.

listen to an episode I had recently with a guy and he the way he and it was like a fetish Friday episode and he was very hardcore but he talked about the gurgling and the crazy shit that guy say when he they're blowing him and shit and he was like no girl will ever be like that like it's so hot I know I had somebody that do that now like oh my fucking god yeah he was saying the cissies love it that's he loved the cissy girls oh my god yeah all right so wait so you're like topping the guy are you also bottoming like Are you a, like a verse? I did that, and that is not my thing.

Okay, interesting. What is your thing? Yeah, my thing is typing, getting head. I don't give head. Okay. I try to stay away from the dig as much as possible. I'm more like, and now I'm coming to slowly find out I'm kind of dime without being degrading. I don't like degrading.

I don't like degradation. Yeah. I don't like people who play with, like, the fetid. certain fetishes with piss and shit and I'm not with that scat or whatever they call it. Yeah. But I'm not with all that shit. Like, it's more for me the sensuality of it all. Interesting.

Okay. It's more so of a sensuality thing. Like feminine men, like that's real feminine, have feminine features, things like that for me. The softness of it all. I don't like hearing. I don't want you smooth as can be. Puckered lips, all that type of shit. Like, I'm not into it.

Now, I have experimented with those, but it's not a thing for me because it's not, and it's as weird as this may sound, it's too manly for me. No, it doesn't sound weird. No, it sounds like you're very specific. I've had, I've had some masculine looking guys blow me in was fucking phenomenal. Right. And then some of the most masculine duels that I've come across, like, damn, I didn't know, you know. So I don't, again, I don't judge.

I'm not judging or anything. It's just not my preference. I prefer the more feminine ones. What I call fend boys, twinks, those type of, you know, gay guys. Well, listen, you obviously know because you've been there, done that. Like, you tried at all. You did try being with masculine men. You know, you're being completely honest here.

You're just not into that thing. You like the more feminine guys. Now, okay, so let's go back to your story. So you're like that first guy you're hooking up with, right? but you're also like living a very secret life. Does anyone ever find out that you're doing this on the side? Man, my cousin, that's because he was doing the shit too. He was doing shit too.

He would be there, you know, getting here from the guy or whatever too. And like, later on down the line, he tried to like out me. And I was like, I don't give a fuck. You just doing it too. Out me. I don't give a fuck. Like, we got into a big fight one time. He was like, I'll tell everybody.

I was like, I don't give a fuck. fuck. They already think I'm bisexual. Oh, really? I'm like, everybody been thinking, you know, man, people have been thinking I was bisexual since I was a kid. Really? Because I was so freaky. Like, everybody was like, man, you're such a horn dog. Like, you will fuck. I man. They just, oh, yeah, they would just say that. Like, dude, you'll fuck anything.

Which wasn't the case, but, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was all way out of my group of friends, I was the one fucking. Yeah. I was the one doing all the fucking. I was laying pipe. Damn near every girl came through the neighborhood. I was laying pipe. You know what I'm saying? Growing up, my friends, the older guys, they will be taking me with them to go fuck with

bras and they'll leave me there to fuck the broad all night because they had to go make money when they was hustling or whatever. And they'd come pick me up in the morning. They would come and if they, it was the chick to be fucked. They came and got me. After they got done with her, they would come and get me to keep her and keep them company. How do you get married twice? What age were you when you married your first wife?

I was 30. Really? Okay, so you waited a while. So in your 20s, okay, what was going down? After that guy, where did you start looking for guys to hook up with? Man, I was doing a little bit of everything in my 20 shit. That was a real bad time in my life, to be honest with you. After I broke up my high school sweetheart.

Helen, you dated. All through high school and shit. I was a hustler. I was in the street, so I didn't graduate or dropped out. So leading up through the high school years, I should say. Yeah. Like 97 around that time or whatever. I was in the streets.

You know what I'm saying? And I wasn't even doing nothing. I had that, that was long and gone, experimented, whatever. I got out that phase, you know, was just straight, dealing with women. Okay. Had a lot of fucking sex with her sisters, cousins, all type of shit. Cheating on her or with her? Yeah.

She didn't on her. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of crazy shit. Okay. All our damn fucking relatives. Oh, one of those cheaters, the worst kinds. Yeah, like, yeah, so we broke up and I started experimenting with blow.

Okay. And that world opened me up to even more freakier encounters. And like, that shit started off as fucking party. But long term, you know, came to my demise. It played out to be the worst thing for me. Yeah. long term. So during that stages, though, during those stages, through my like 21 to above like 27, it was a lot of sex, a lot of, a lot of bullshit, a lot of, yeah, just a lot of fucked up shit,

a lot of fucked up relationships that I was fucking up with people because of drugs. I wasn't talking to my mom and shit at the time. I had a situation with her boyfriend where I damn there killed him. So my mom pushed me away. Right. And I didn't have shit. My, my law, I lost my girlfriend, fucking around. Lost my girl from my high school sweetheart. And I just didn't have shit, didn't have nobody. And life took his course with me. And I was back to selling drugs and shit.

And then I got introduced the blow. Yeah. The blow introduced me to more freaky-ass women. Also introduced me to fucking Craig's List and backpage looking for this experience because I was like, I got that urge. Yeah. And you're high. And you're high all the time.

Right. And I'm high as fuck. And you know, you fucking don't blow. You fucking horny. You fuck a goddamn statue of had a hole. And what were you looking for on Craigslist? Like what kind of people were you? What kind of focus was going on? Anything to suck my dick that was clean and sane.

Wow. You know what I'm saying? Like that was clean and sane. So it was like I had, don't get me wrong. Like I have standards. You know what I just know anything? Okay. But what I came to learn in the.

this life style of being by or calling yourself by curious or whatever man you got to watch you people there's a lot of people out here who just don't fuck down to fuck whatever i'm not one of them people i got fucking boundaries and like what i don't my thing is first of all you got to be clean you got to be saying now after that and it's good then my next thing is what the fuck do you have going on for yourself because i'm a person if i'm going to be fucking you i need some type of connection with you. I need some type of interest besides fucking if we're going to remain cool, because I've always had a lot of people want to be cool with me. Yeah. But my thing is, I don't want a fucking druggy, and I don't want no dirty, nasty-ass person. Oh, okay. Well, you know, that's interesting. I'm glad that you said that

because I'm thinking, you know, the way you're painting that picture going into your Craigslist days, right, that you're like so fucked up high on Coke, you know, just like randomly looking for hookups. I'm thinking that's exactly what's going down, but it wasn't. Even though you're high and you're doing this and you're kind of like a drug addict at the time that you're not like you're like being smart about it when you're meeting these people is that what you're saying like you you were like yes right yeah you still have your standards even through that yeah i still have my standards okay that's good to know okay exactly so i'm not one of those people who raw i'm not going i'm not that bear back shit doesn't work for me so god thank god you're smart like that i don't fucking bear back i don't fucking

bear back every fucking broad i meet so i'm damn sure not bear back and a dude. You know what I'm saying? I'm not doing that shit. And, you know, it's already, I'm doing what I'm doing. And I think I'm about to just rush and roulette my dick for the fuck of it

because I'm horny. No, I'm not about to do that shit. No. Well, thank God you have that side of you. You know what I mean? Because that's probably saved you through that time of, like, craziness. Because even as crazy as you were, you still had that part of yourself that was like, hey, put a fucking condom on. I would get high.

I thought that where the gay clubs was at. I would get high and pull up to the gay club and find the coldest looking feminine little thing I can find. Hey, what's happening? What's up? Yeah. And you try to get on. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I was doing that for a while.

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Hey, what's happening? What's up? Yeah. And try to get on. You know what I'm saying? So like, I was doing that for a while. Then I stopped. Then I stopped.

Then I got married. Then I moved to Austin And I wish I would have fucking experienced I wasn't on it then But now that I'm gone I didn't know they had a lifestyle Like culture like that down there Oh really?

I didn't know Yeah Yeah they got a nice little lifestyle culture down there With the swingers and everything down there I actually went to our house But they wouldn't let us in at the time We went to a house one time I was I was some friends

Oh your friends guys A bunch of guys Yeah my friends yeah we was out And they was like yeah man got an after hour we can go to, to the spot, it was a swinger spot. They opened the door,

I seen people in leather whips and all type of shit, but they wouldn't let us in because I was single, and I didn't have nobody to go with me, and they were couples, so, like, they didn't let us in or whatever, but whatever. Yeah.

Okay, so you're married and you're in Austin. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That didn't work out. That didn't work out. Can I ask you a quick question, though, but during your marriage to this woman, were you still seeing guys on the DL behind her back,

as well as women? No. No. Women? Yeah. Men, no. Okay, cool. So you don't do that with guys when you're with, when you're, like, you're pretty,

like you don't do that when you're with a woman. Oh, I have, well, more recently, yeah. Okay, well, we'll get to that. No. Okay, cool. Yeah. All right. Back then, no.

Okay. So you're married. It didn't start back up to after I got divorced. Okay. And that's what, I think the thing when my marriage was, it was too fucking vanilla. Like, she got mad and started crying. one day because I came in and then I was still experimenting with blow every nine again.

Yeah, I was going to ask about that. That was another thing. Yeah. I was still experimenting around with blow and then I got down there and we started trying to stir up and shit like that. And, you know, it just wasn't the thing. It wasn't what the background and lifestyle she came from and we just grew apart. But she sexually was like, I was too much for. Right. She couldn't deal with it. She used to cry like, I'm not your porn story. I'm like, what the fuck? Like, wow.

So we actually got divorced a month after our fifth anniversary. We had just paid off our wedding. And one day she woke me up, it was like, I wanted divorce. Wow. Did you know it was coming? I seen the writing on the wall. Right, okay. A lot of guys don't, but yet I think that the writing is typically on the wall.

I was cool with it. Okay. I was cool with it. I was hurt. It took me a couple years to get fully, fully over it. Uh-huh. A lot of bitterness. and stuff like that, but in the long run, the things that happened afterwards, I was, the thing

she told me afterwards, I was, I was, I was like, great. Great woman. Great mother, though. Great mother. I was going to ask, yeah, did you have kids with her? So you guys did have kids and you still get along. Yeah. No, we don't get along at all. We hate each other guts, but that's, hey, that's, hey, that's what she, hey, I gave her what she wanted. She's got her kids. I gave her what the fuck she wanted and she didn't like it. So, hey. How many kids are you out with her? Two. Two.

Okay. But you co-parents the kids. No. That's another story. Okay. I like talking about that. It makes me sad. Yeah, I can imagine.

Okay. So you don't really, you guys don't like each other. How long you've been divorced from her for? Shit. My kid's 16. I've been divorced for like 10 years. Wow. Okay.

So what happens after your divorce? Now you're still like doing blow and stuff. When did you get out of that phase? True, man. I went head first back in it after that. Oh, really? I was so fucked up. Yeah, that's what I did to get over to divorce.

Like, party, start fucking everything moving. Oh, my. Start party, party, partying. And I was working in bars. I was cooking and shit. So I was, like, partying and hooking up with girls and shit. And then off on the side, I would meet up with a, you know, meet up with a guy here and there, whatever.

but I wanted the real trans woman experience. I had a guy that I work with that turned, that went trans, transformed in front of my eyes and missed out on the opportunity. When they got their vagina, I missed out on the opportunity. Oh, and I never had that chance again.

You want her to be like looking like a female but still have the cock? Like, is that what you're saying? No, I didn't even care about the cock. I don't know. So what did you miss? You just said she transitioned. fully and you weren't into it.

I don't understand. No, she transitioned fully and I missed out on my chance. That's what I said. Oh, you just never got to hook out with her? No, we had a chance to hook up and I never went. Yeah, I get it, but I'm just saying right. I never went. Yeah.

She's like, do you want to try my pussy? And I'm like, well, fuck, yeah. I've never had trans pussy. I want to try it. Yeah, of course, a freaky person like you. And I missed out on the fucking opportunity and never had a fucking chance again. And I was so fucking pissed. I was so pissed.

but we're still cool friends though we're cool friends so you're reeling from your divorce you're acting out again fucking the world back to guys and doing all the stuff that you're doing to right right so it was a lot of like certain experience was a blowing goal the glory hole saying one thing with craigsness

I didn't like you had to be careful because some things were set up and me being from the streets I was smart enough to know what was or what wasn't I can tell by certain lingo, cold conversations and things. Well, why don't you give out a little information about that? You just got to be careful with certain, know your areas. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Like some areas don't even go. Yeah. And you can kind of bring it out of them by saying, well, meet me here. You know what I'm saying? You can do little things like, hey, meet me here or no, I'm not coming to your house. Or send me a picture. Yeah. You know, things like that, send me pictures or whatever.

call my phone like you know people try to play the odd i don't want to be outed look motherfucker call me do send me some type of signal to let me know this is legit because i'm not just showing up to any fucking where not doing that yeah so like some people that i met it would like we'll meet somewhere neutral and then go to where we're going or whatever um but a lot of times shit i was going to the gay club like that was the best way to go for me like i just go straight to the gay club right and what would you do there do people get it on in the these gay the gay clubs or that's just I haven't been, see, that's my thing. I didn't go in, in, in, because I was like, I didn't want to be seen like that.

So I'll be outside when it's letting out. Oh, that's what you mean? And see one, yeah, see one. That's not going to the gay club. That's going to the gay club. That's going to the gay club. Right, right. Exactly, right.

Okay. And like, sometimes I would just like hang out in that area and like, like something pull up on me. Yeah, and try to pull up. They pull up, see me at the light and say something. And like, I turned down a lot of them. Like, I got a thing for Spanish, like Latin feminine guys. Like, oh, my God, I got a thing for Latin and Spanish films.

Them boys, tweens, transgenerals. I just got a thing for that. They're more feminine to me than anything. But, yeah. So I found one on Craigslist and hooked up with this one, with this trans woman one time. Mm-hmm. And to me, it was amazing.

I was like, oh, my God. And it was funny because I lost her number. Oh, shit. Lus the for like, listen, for like a year, I was looking and looking and looking and looking. I was looking up the name. I go back on Craigslist. I was searching Craigslist trying to find her, trying to find her. I couldn't fucking find her.

And then finally, one time she hit my email. Mm-hmm. And I'm like, fucking jackpot. Yes, yes. So we start, you know, hanging out. We start a synchrony hooking up and stuff like that. And I really started to like her. I liked her a lot because I've been watching her since the whole transition.

You know what I'm saying? She's almost fully transitioned. So like I really started the light. And then she disappeared on me again and moved. And they had a boyfriend and told me, you know, told me about it. Because this was a person that I could actually talk to about life. Yeah. It wasn't just like sex.

We would talk and she would give me great fucking advice. Still, I'm a very close friend to this day that I walked, even told my girl, I'm not giving her up. I don't go. I don't go. I don't go. This is my friend. I'm not letting her go. Yeah.

Okay. So she disappeared on me again. And when she came home and told me she came in the town and I died as my girlfriend on my birthday on my birthday. I left my girlfriend's on my birthday to go be with her. Oh, my God. I was going to say, was it your girlfriend's birthday? No, but it was your birthday? Okay, and you're going to be with this other trans woman.

And how long were you dating your girlfriend at the time? Is this your current wife? This was, yeah. Not wife, but girl, yeah. But it's the same woman that you're with now, Mayor. You're not with her, right? I mean, but it's the same 13-year-old 13-year relationship. Right, right, right.

Right, right. Because you just kind of told her recently, correct? She didn't know, but she's a little, she's caught, dunk. She's really, really insecure. She'll go through my shit and peek and look for. shit. She's always looking for shit. Okay. She always finds some shit. So whatever. So yeah, she kind of like

seen little things hinted. She's had, you know what I'm saying? And came across emails or like, you know, just looking at my phone and seeing shit, pay me on certain pages and shit like that. But she never really brought it up except for a couple times. So anyway, I go to the hotel, whatever, and I'm like, fuck. And I, like, fuck, I miss you so much and I'm just like telling her how much I'm missing and I'm like and I realize like fuck I really got feelings the fuck wow this is crazy but like I what the fuck yeah like I couldn't help it but this girl this trans woman man is just so fucking smart man it's just so driven and like I'm really that's a turn on to me driven woman or turn on to me right I'm saying like

I thought I was like one of my kinks where I like being choked like it was crazy Like, you know what I'm saying? It brought out some shit in me. So it was like it was real weird and shit. Now, are you continually like hanging, like your, are you like, like, like consistently hooking up with this trans woman? We don't have sex, but probably a couple times a year. Okay.

But you're talking a lot too. But we talk a lot. Yeah. We talk. She'll help me with, I do catering. She'll help with that. She'll help me do administrative stuff. Yeah.

She'll help me do paperwork on certain projects. I want to do all that shit, like a very, very fucking good friend of me. I recently, like I said, I recently told her that I was in love with her. And if I ever did choose to be with a trans woman,

she would be the one. Wow. Is she with somebody? No. Okay. She has somebody, though. She does have a boyfriend, but he's an off and on thing with them.

Right. Okay. It's an off and all the thing. But you have somebody still. And we still got to get to the point. where you kind of like really come out to her right so the really coming out part was of recent she found i don't well i guess she had one of my old tablets with an old with this account that i was using oh my god but she has everything under one fucking you know how like you can get the family link and all this

shit yeah that's how the fuck i got caught up fucking family linking shit yeah yeah location savings and all that old bullshit sentence and dumb shit and some fucking how I downloaded fucking grinder because me and the fucking trans woman me and my trans woman friend we had a discussion

when I started talking about love and this and the third she's like well how many trans women have you been with and I'm like none except for one I was molested by but like you well I I'm gonna say that. I have had head by one, but that's another story. But fucking like, as far as like a person I can consist, because I'm not, like I say, I'm not wanting to be out here willy-nilly with my shit. I can't, I can't afford to do that. No. So I found one and I told her that. I was like when I found you, I decided you only one I'm going to fuck with. Period. I'm not out here throwing. I'm not out here to fuck. I'm not one of them type of dudes. I like, you know, consistency and things like that. So.

she's like, well, why don't you just try at least before you really, you didn't got your mind set on me, but you haven't even explored nothing yet. So why don't you do that. Oh, so I was going to download it to fucking Grindr and that shit was crazy. I did hook up though. I hugged before Grindr though, listening to your show, I download it SDC, I download it, Finder, fuck Finder, whatever it's called. I downloaded that. Wait, my code. SDC 377. You get a free trial. There's a link in the description for SDC, right? Okay, go on.

All right. So, on SDC, I'm not going to lie. I'm not in the tax bracket for SDC. Why? What's going on on there? Hey, man, that's a lot of spending money that I don't have right now. What are all I'm trying to do? Yeah, that's a lot of spending money.

You spend a lot of money in the lifestyle, I see. and by just listening to your show and the type of people that live in those lifestyles are very like corporate people for the most part right i got it okay so that wasn't really for you traveling and yeah a lot of traveling and things like that well leading up to that got me on friend finder okay so i'm gonna friend finder where it's more of my low you know ran economic you know people same kind of people things like that yeah you know don't get me wrong though SDC talks to a lot of great people of seriously i did it yeah talk to a lot of great people My pitch on there was, hey, I'm a private chef. This is what I, hey, listen, bring me to the party.

Yeah. Bring me in the party. Bring me around. I'm a private chef. I'm good to go. Nice. You know, check me out. So anyway, I didn't want to keep the subscription to that or whatever.

And it just was a lot of traveling and this stuff, which I'm not in the situation for that right now. So I've got the friend finder. Wow. It was just an open buffet of things to do on there. Anything I wanted pretty much. So I've had a couple. hookups on friend finder.

Oh my God. You sound like a single person, all while you're dating this woman. Yeah. We got our issues, man. We got our issues. Okay, we'll get to that. I've had, this is all in the last since November. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, like, I already started this to your show when I was doing another job. When I wasn't cooking, I was driving trucks, and I started listening to the episodes while I was on the road. I have a lot of truckers. I love my truckers. They always email me. Thanks for keeping me company while I'm driving. But I love your show because it opened me up so much like it really did. It opened me up, educated me.

So I want to say thanks. And make you cheat on your girl. Well, your girl's not going to thank me. I feel bad. I feel like I got you to cheat on her. Well, it kind of helped us. I ain't going to lie. It's going to help me opening up as helped us out a lot.

So. Yeah. So I got the friend finder. Yeah. Right, right. I got the friend finder. I found a couple. And her.

her and her husband wanted to do me. Okay. So they came in Ohio, you know, and we did what we did. Well, I sold it to my girl last. I was meeting a client to cater his company lunch. Yeah. Because he was up,

the husband was up here doing work. And she, they came up one weekend. He went home and then brought her back. And we met up, you know, we met up for drinks and then we just went straight to the hotel and did our thing. Pretty as fucking. pussy I ever seen on this woman, man. Oh, my God. To this day, I'm like, oh, my God. But I didn't think, because it was like, it was like we didn't have nothing else after the sex. Right.

It was fun. It was cool, but I just did, I don't know for some reason. The wife gave me vibes that she ain't want her husband doing this shit. But she was with it. Oh, do maybe she's doing it for him. Unfortunately, that happens. That's, and that's what I'm saying. Right. Like, she, she was, she was great she was fucking excellent but when it came to me and him like she was like because i really i'm to be honest with you i already did it because i wanted her oh you were more attracted to her oh my god yeah okay yeah i only did it because i really wanted her i was like man i got to have you she was like would you be done to do my husband right was he more of a masculine guy not your type really yeah yeah but he he could suck a mean cock i tell you that he can suck him in dick shit he could

Good. So like, we talk, we've talked since then, though. Very cool people. Right. We talked since then. But, you know, it's one of them things. They're in the lifestyle, like, heavy in the lifestyle. So they got other people they play with and shit. So I'm sure it was like, you know, probably a one-off thing real quick. And if they're in the area, you probably would hit me up. I don't know. Because I was like a noobie to the shit. Yeah. I was like a nobie. Still am a nobby. I haven't had many experiences with the Swinger thing.

But I've had friends. I have a. I have a. I have a. I have a. I have a. close couple that's what I've been friends with for years they swing but I don't like the dynamic of the years is and you also like you've said numerous times and you even just said it even about this couple that like that connection wasn't there and you really like that one-on-one connection I mean that's really the reason probably why you really felt for the trans woman because you got to really know her too like you like that kind of experience more than just a one and done hookup hit it and quit and type of thing now also that through me catering and stuff and doing what I do.

I met a guy who just came onto me out of the fucking blue. Just start coming on to me. And at first I didn't really think nothing of it. And then I was sick. And it was like, yeah, I got some allergy medicine. And I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, huh?

So I'm like driving home. Like, yeah, he can come pick it up. So I'm like, yeah, cool. Just leave it at the door. So I'm going pick it up and I get a phone call. Like, why didn't you knock on the door? I'm like, What? Yeah. I'm like, oh, okay, that's what this was. Oh, okay. So we've been cool. We've been cool for a minute. And he's just real feminine. He's just a real, real, real feminine guy, straight up gay guy. But he's a really fucking cool and caring person that I've grown to, you know, become friends with. Once again, we have a connection because we were both in hospitality in the service industry. And he knows, he has a lot of connections. a lot of people and we just get along we're real cool we get along we're just good friends we've done

shit but it's that's what it is that's to the extent it is you know what I'm saying you don't want shit from me I don't want shit from them right but let's get to your girl because you do sometimes when you're talking it just sounds like you're single you're doing all this shit you know what I mean is like where's your girl where's your girl in the middle of all this like when does this conversation at home cooking all this shit happens is you're the fucking cook. I thought you're the cook. This shit happens in between fucking going home.

Okay. Coming and going home. In between going to work, going to come to work, going home, coming home. Yeah, I got it. After I get home, that's it. You're home. That's it. Right.

So she would have no idea. No. Yeah. But she's not stupid. She would put little shit together here and there. Like one time because he was on my social media. He was a friend of my social media. she started watching them because he started commenting i guess a lot yeah start watching them was like

yeah something going on i don't know then like well she tracked my i don't know how the fuck she tracked my map my google maps or some shit and found his real name and address and all type of shit and then accused me of being the one that was getting fucked and that's what pissed me to fuck off i think that pissed me off because you're doing the fucking you're not getting fun right i'm like, man, listen, I'm not getting fucked. But a long thought, on the serious side, though, what really were really triggered the recent incident of me telling her for real, like, it was a time

where she, she drinks and just blatters, just blurts out all her fucking feelings and emotions and whatever going on between me and her. Now, that's a part of my relationship I hate. She just randomly called people that she thinks is so fucking cool with her and just tell them all her fucking business.

Yeah. All our secrets and shit. And then they called me like, look, man, she, I didn't even need to hear what the fuck I just heard. But this is what's going on. Oh, my God. Like calling my friends, my personal friends and telling them shit. Yeah.

So there's one incident. She got drunk and I guess told my sister all these shit about them. She got me on tape getting fucked in the ass and all type of crazy shit drunk. And my sisters and them confront. her in front of me and my friend. Mm-hmm. So then my friend told me the same kind of fucking story. Like, yeah, dude,

she'd be drunk and just be saying you'd be messing with dudes and all type of shit. Right. So she obviously kind of knows. I mean, she's like what she's saying is true, is the truth. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, but I don't want my fucking family. Like, I got it.

But why isn't she coming to you about it? So, I mean, obviously she did or you recently had a conversation about it, right? I mean, like, you know, at that point... Yeah, she fought the grinder shit. Yeah. She found the grinder shit.

And that's when she was like, everything makes sense now. Now, I understand. So we went through that whole thing. And I was just like, man, yeah, I'm by. Fuck it. I'm by. Wow, you finally caught.

Let me tell you something about girls, okay? Like, what you were doing to this poor woman was you were driving her fucking crazy, okay? This is why she's calling up everybody and their mother about you because she's like finding little things. She's smelling the fact that you're, you know, getting your dick sucked by guys

and you're just not copping to it. It drives a woman mental. Women have very good intuition, you know. But when you don't, when you don't cop to something, they go fucking crazy. And then the guy's like, oh, they're so fucking crazy. It's like, no, you actually are doing shit. Okay?

She's not crazy. I didn't beat her up, though, but I swear. No, but I'm just saying that's why, though, she's going mental and letting it out when she's drunk on her things because she doesn't have the clarity. Like, you never sat her down and said, you know what? You're right.

Like, this is what I'm doing. I am into guys. You know what I mean? But finally you did, right? Tell me that conversation. Basically it was the grind, the whole thing of her finding all about grinder. But she never got to the, she never got in it. She just knew about it from watching my activity, my app activity or something shit that she got linked up or whatever.

But you caught to it. Right. But I was just like, you know what? Yes. Finally. And then she started asking me about certain incidents. And I was like, yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. So first thing I think she was going to do was get drunk and tell my whole fucking family I'm just like I'm waiting I'm waiting on the fucking phone call to start pouring in at this fucking point I'm like fuck oh shit so now what she does is she throws little shit in my face here and there like we'll be watching TV and it'd be a scene the two dudes fucking she's like well some guys like it like get up and walk out the room or some crazy shit so

like she now is like she just worried about who I'm talking to him where I'm going to who I'm around now you know what I'm saying because she think and I had to tell her like when I sat her down when we had the conversation I had to explain to her like look

this is what I like this is what my this is my role this is the role I play in the situation this is what I like I'm not out here just fucking anything and everything you know I didn't even go and I'm not going to lie to I didn't fully

fully till her everything. I just told her. She doesn't need to know the extent of it, but right. Detail. But your women love to learn. It's bad enough. We hurt,

but y'all just want to be hurt to the fucking core at that point. Once y'all know, it's like fucking just, just keep on stabbing me, damn me. Give me all the fucking details. You know what I'm saying?

Some women, most women. No, no, I know exactly what you mean. It is true. You know, you want to know all the details, but then you know them and it's terrible. But at the end of the day, I think the truth does set someone free. And it is always the best thing. Like it did, you know, listen, she's still bringing up

shit, but I don't think she needs to call people of drunk anymore because she finally has more of the truth, you know, and I don't, you know, you didn't cop to the fact that you're doing all these kinds of things. But did you, like, if she knows now that this is something that you like want and need, does she know that you're still going to be doing it? Did you tell her, but I won't be with anybody? Like, where do you guys stand now? at a weird place I know she's been fucking the shit out of me lately I know that

Maybe she's turned on by it Did you ever ask? She's been fucking this shit out of me lately Like What do you think? Why do you think that's happening? I don't know But like

I don't know She yeah Maybe she's into you Your freaky side Maybe she How do you know what I mean Why she? Or maybe she's like you know

A little cuck queen She didn't hear fucking stories man all the fuck where she's from where the little town where she's really from like down there the motherfucking dudes all them dudes down they're fucking each other they ain't got nothing else to do they all down there fucking each other and dressing up in their girls

lines around shit I don't knock nobody I'm not I'm not saying that's not nobody I'm not against You look at what you're doing right yeah right exactly I'm saying like so you know like I told her like I'm not on that part of it Like that's not me I'm more the dominant you know one You know what I'm saying and I've come listening to your show.

I've come to learn what I really like and what I don't like. You know, the name for what I'm willing to do and what I'm not willing to do. I'm not pissed. I'm not, like I say, like I told earlier, I'm not doing the blood shit, all that little crazy shit.

Beating people, I'm not with all that shit. But I understand that some people that are. But I do like being choked. I find that. Yeah, we heard that before. Yeah, with your trans girl. But wait, so I just need to get to this moment with your girl because like it's very important where you stand now. I mean, you finally had this

like sort of window of opportunity where you just would like got the courage to be completely honest. Like you threw it out there. Like this is who the fuck I am. And that's pretty major, right? She didn't leave you. Right. Right. Like how did the that, like does she like how long ago did that conversation happen? Like when did that conversation? Just recently. That's where I'm calling. Yeah. Yeah. Because you just left a confession. So, you know, like is it's got a. It's got a keep, it has to continue. Like, you know what I mean? Because this is your opportunity to kind of both be able to be in a relationship where

everyone's being super honest and you're not cheating on her. You know, I just posted an episode with a great, uh, story with a guy who has a free pass. You know, he was Kev. I don't know if you heard Kev's not giving. You know, yeah, but listen. She's not given a free pass. Okay. But listen.

You just fucking told her, okay. It's not the movies. The free pass doesn't come like you tell her and then the stars will light up. And she's like, oh, here you go, fuck a guys. Okay, she's got to go through stuff. You know, she's got to get to a place where she accepts it. Listen to that guy, Kev's episode. I just aired it.

Like, he said it just like, you know, it. Oh, yeah, I heard it. Yeah, and he said it didn't come without bumps in the road. And it didn't happen easily. And there was a lot of conversations that need to take place. But this is your opportunity to eventually get to a place where you guys could be open and honest with each other. And then she doesn't have to go fucking crazy wondering what you're doing. doing and she's not being quote unquote cheated on that's so much better.

I mean, does she think that you're not going to be with guys anymore? Like, how did that conversation end? I don't know what the fuck she thinks. Well, how are you not talking about it still? It's a different, it reservices what she wants it to resurface. Right. But when she resurfaces, nothing wrong. No, no, no.

I know. But when it resurfaces, you need to be the one then. You know more than she does. okay, you know, she wants you to admit it and then think that it's never going to happen again. I don't understand, you know, but she's not living in the real reality of the... She's not living in right. Exactly. She's not living in reality. No, but that's, and I understand that because, like, what does that mean to her? That means maybe a free pass, maybe that you're going to be blown. Like, that's a lot for a girl who's, you know, not ready for that to fully accept.

But that doesn't mean that she can't get there. You have to give her time. But the only way she can get there is you have to like when she brings up these little digs and stuff start having serious keep that serious conversation going you know let oh i have okay she cut it off she cuts it off okay because the shows we watch shit it got all this shit in it like like we was just watching i can't say i can't say the name on here but we was watching the show and fucking on the scene came on and like i blurted out like yeah that was that was hot and she like looked at me it was like oh that was hot I was like, yeah, that was bad. That was hot.

Right. Yeah. I've been in that situation. Right, but that's not really talking about it. Like, I mean, you have to eventually have conversations like, you know, I do have this part of me. And I would, I don't want to like be doing stuff behind your back anymore. Like, but, you know, I can't necessarily say that I would never be with a guy again. Like, is there a way that we could figure something out here?

I don't know. We had all that. And we had all that. And her and her was, well, I won't be there. And I told after this whole, after this whole last situation, I kind of just told her like, look, this is what it is. You have an option. You have a choice to stay with me or not. I can't say, I told her I can't say whether I will or won't.

Okay, good, good. You were honest. You said, like, I can't tell you that I'm never going to be with a guy again and be faithful to you. That's good. Yeah. And but she hasn't left you yet. She ain't left me yet. Right.

She wants to live in fantasy land. My thing is, I think she would do some. would just go and cheat and keep it to herself. Maybe. Girls do that. People do that. I did that in my life before. Like, you know, an insecure relationship, went and cheat instead of leaving because he can't.

She didn't already tell me, like, we tried to have a, we try to, you know, do some swinging here and there. She's very like, she's not going to watch me do nothing with nobody. She's not. Yeah, but that was girls, right? No, that was with, that was with a couple. I wasn't doing that with the guy, but the couple wanted to swap. Yeah, but she didn't want to see you fuck another woman. She fucking flipped the table.

She flipped the whole fucking table over. Yeah. Like I said, fucking no. Flip the fucking table over. Yeah, she didn't want to see you fuck another girl, but you fucking another guy might be a different story. Why is she fucking the shit out of you right now? She might be turned on by it. I don't know.

I don't know. You don't know. Some girls are. Why is she so horned up suddenly? I don't know. Yeah. That's a good question. I mean, she hasn't left you yet, but just keep being fucking honest and putting her in that corner.

Like, listen, you either stay with me and we figure out how this is going to work and maybe you come, like, maybe you want to be with me when I'm with, I don't know. Like, maybe you're into it, you know, keep those conversations or, you know, fucking leave me, but I don't want to continue to lie about this. Right? Right. Yeah. I mean, you're still young. You can meet another woman that is down and open that you've heard my show enough to know that there are women that would accept. Fucking yeah.

Right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. So, I mean, you're only, what, you said you're 39 now? No, I'm 46. Okay, you're 46. You get to meet another woman. You know, if this doesn't work out.

You've been with her for 13 years. Listen, you know, eventually for her, like, you know, I get that she doesn't really want to make any decisions right now. She just found out this huge thing about her guy. She's probably trying to not really fully accept it yet and everything. You know, it's a major thing. But over time eventually If she, you know, knows us about you. She's either going to go crazy with jealousy

Thinking your fucking guys all the time Which you have been and you're going to be like, you know Or she could be, you know And live tortured life with you Or she could fucking leave you Or she could stay with you and be open about it And she could have an honest relationship with you Those are going to be her choices

Eventually when she has to face the reality I don't see it going that wrong I see her just being delusional to the whole thing Yeah, but are you going to be a delusional? Like, what are you going to do? Just keep getting caught? No. Like, no. Yeah. No.

Right. You're going to continue to see guys, right? I mean, yeah, I'm going to continue to see my friend. Yeah. Yeah. I'm done she knows that. And that's where a lot of this stuff came out at. Like I told her, like, I'm not going to stop seeing my friends.

You know what I'm saying? And that's what it is. So you either going to accept it or you're not. Yeah. Well, did you tell her that you're like in love with your trans woman friend? Hell no. Okay. Good.

Don't let her know that. It's not good. Hell no. Could you ever date that trans woman, do you think? Huh? Would you ever date that trans woman if you weren't with your girl? Yeah. Right.

I would. Yeah, that's interesting. She's special to me. Yeah, it sounds like it. Yeah, and she knows you. No, for real. Yeah. She's special to me.

Like, she cared about my well-being. She's coming to pick me up. She's came to pick me up. You know what I'm saying? To get me out of a certain situation. ways with me and my girl that fought. Yeah. And it wasn't even about six.

Like, I just slept on the couch. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I like really care. Like, yeah. Well, listen, maybe you wind up with her. I'm very curious of what happens. But listen, I think at the end of the day and I have to wrap it up because we're at

58 minutes and I do like an hour. But like I do an intro too on top of it so it's over an hour. But like I have to say that I think that, you know, I think things are like a domino effect. You know, you don't know what's at the end of. this, but the first domino was pushed over, right? And then everything comes after. I hope that your girl doesn't just live in delusion. And, you know, 10 years from now, you're still having this same kind of relationship. Because I feel like you actually finally copping to it can be a powerful moment in your guy's relationship that either ends your relationship and you could go meet somebody else and

she could go meet somebody else too and you guys could both be happier with more like-minded partners or you guys come to some sort of agreement where your relationship is better than it's ever been because you're not fucking lying. She's having hot sex with you and you get to be who you are. You know what I mean? And you're not cheating on her and she's not calling out people drunk, you know? It could go either way. But if it stays the way that it is 10 years from now, even after you cop to it, that's so sad to me, you know? I hope that doesn't happen. Absolutely. I mean, like, it's a deep, yeah. It's a deeper, it's a deep hole because I My thing is, I think it's going to be the other way around.

She's going to try to play delusion on shit and carry this shit out and at some point in time. I'm going to be like, no, I can't do that. Yeah, well, then you could do, listen, you have those choices too. You know what I mean? Because, you know, do you want to be with somebody that knows exactly who you are but doesn't want to accept it and you have to continue to lie and you have these issues and problems? Right now, you're not going to leave her because you said she's like fucking the shit out of you better than ever. before, right? You know, but eventually, I don't know, you know, what's going to happen with that. But if all the nonsense starts again, maybe one day you leave because you could be in a better relationship

with someone where you could be more of yourself. Maybe you can get into the lifestyle like you want to be. Sounds like you've always kind of been teetering around. If you had a partner that was into it, even maybe you could be with a trans woman, which is something that you really enjoy, you know, and have someone that accepts you and is open as you are. That's great. You could always leave her too, You know, I'm just saying that, you know, something, I hope that something comes out of that moment of you just like dropping that bomb because I think that I was very brave of you and that was like really great. And that could either, like I said, make you guys stronger or make you separate. And I don't necessarily think when people end, it's such a terrible thing. Like, so not everyone's meant to spend the whole fucking life with somebody.

You've been with this woman for 13 years. That's a very long time and it's certainly not a failure if you ended it right now, right? It wouldn't be. You've been together for a long time. Not everyone needs to spend eternity with each other for it to be good. You're allowed to leave people and there's nothing wrong with it. And everyone winds up happier eventually. I'm sure she could find someone.

You'll find somebody. It's not the end of the fucking world. People are like, oh, that's terrible. You leave someone. People are allowed to leave someone. You're allowed to do that. You know, I'm saying, like, please. And, you know, so poor, you could stay and make it work.

That's great too. But, you know, it's like you can't be status quo of like the way you were, especially since you came out with it. It would be such, like I said, a waste of you being honest if it just was like thrown under the carpet, you know, like your mother put shit under the carpet so many years ago. Like, it's like nothing happened. Something happened here. She knows you're fucking into guys. Face the fact.

What are you going to do about it? What's she going to do about it? Let her listen to this episode. Bo, listen. Keep me posted. Okay. When shit hits the fan, you wind up dating the trans guy. She winds up fucking you and the trans person to.

You're having three reasons with her. Who knows? This could go either way. If you put a gun to my head and said, you answer, you have to answer correctly, like which way it goes, I would not know. I think it's a flip of a coin. It could go either way. And I hope it goes one way or the other.

And you have to keep me posted, okay? But I love your story and this whole episode. It's super interesting. And I give you credit that you were honest, finally, you know. But just keep having those conversations with her. Keep being honest. And then you can't. that you can't feel bad about it, you know what I'm saying?

We'll do. All right. Thanks, Bo. Thanks so much for calling in. All right. Have a blessed one. You too. Bye.

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