Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1092 - FETISH FRIDAY: Tundra is a furry who is Also Into Puppy Play?!
Episode Date: April 18, 2025Tundra is a furry who also digs pup play and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in the hear all the details including what a furry actually is, how and when he started to realize he was into bein...g a furry, when it turned sexual for him, how it has helped him express his submissive side, his role as a furry and the scenarios he likes to play out, how and why he defines himself as pansexual, how old he was when he lost his virginity and who he lost it to, where he gets his outfits from and where people can get theirs, where the furry community in his area meet up and what goes down when they do, the types of animals furries choose to dress up as, which animals he enjoys hooking up with and why, the big house furry sex party and spa he goes to and exactly what goes down both of those places, how many people typically show up and the demographics of the people who do show up, the difference between pup play vs. being a furry and how and why he’s into both, why the pup scene and furry scene is mostly all bi or gay men and how that is changing, when he came out to his father as a furry and how they reacted and feel about it now, how often he attends furry and pup play parties, his three specific personas and the between them, how many furry suits he owns right now plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of TUNDRA plus anonymous pics of all of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://beducate.me/pd2508-anonymous Use code anonymous to get an additional 10% off the campaign’s current discount - that’s 60% off Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Okay. Today I have on Tungra. Tunga is a furry. Okay. I have never talked to a furry. I don't
know anything about being a furry. And so I had a lot of questions for Tundra. Tundra also happens to be
Venti, who's like a puppy character of his. He's into puppy play. He's into furry play. Those are
two separate things. He really breaks down everything. I have a million questions. Any of the questions
that you have about a furry, if you're not a furry and you're like, what the fuck is a furry?
You're going to get those answered because I asked all those questions because I'm someone that
knew nothing about it. I didn't know about puppy play. I didn't even know that they were two
kind of separate things. You know, they're very separate, but he's into both of them and he explains it. The furry thing he got into when he was really young, eventually it turned into a sexual thing. He goes to orgy parties, okay? He goes to puppy parties, too, that are like big fat orgies as well. He talks all about the community. He answers all my crazy questions because I had no clue about anything. He's a pansexual guy. He breaks down the demographics of people that are in that community. There is a large community where he lives. But he's here to represent that.
community and talk all about it. And like I said, it's super interesting. It was super interesting to me
because in my 11 years of podcasting, I feel like I've heard it all. So it's very hard to talk to me
about something I've never heard. And this is something I've never heard. But he brought it here.
Okay. He's here talking about poppy play and being a furry. He's the real deal. He's a young guy. He's
25. He sent me in some picks. I haven't seen them yet. We just hung up. But he's sending me in some
picks of his outfits that he made himself. He's an artist. So I can't wait to see that stuff.
It's going to be over on my Patreon.
But anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Tundra.
Hey, Tundra.
Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast.
How are you today?
Very well.
And yourself?
Good.
I'm a little excited.
I have a million questions because I don't know one fucking thing about your fetish.
Is it called fetish a furry?
Is it being a furry a fetish?
And you're a furry, correct?
So it can go two different ways.
Okay.
Furry is not itself a whole fetish.
There's a lot of people that it's basically just an interest in antipromorified animals,
which is animals that are human, given human characteristics.
Oh, okay.
They can have emotions, they can talk, stuff like that.
And there's a very big sexual side of that community.
There's fur suits that are suits that are made by people that are basically giant animals that walk around.
Like think of Disney suits like goofy suits or Mickey suits.
Those can be considered fur suits.
Okay.
And there are people who wear things called mer suits, which are basically those kind of
suits that have zippers that people like to have sex in. Oh my God, I can't wait. Just do your thing.
Keep going. Tell me more. So are you saying like where does it become a fetish if it is? Or maybe it's
not a fetish. Maybe it's just a kink. And I think the difference between a fetish and a kink is a fetish is
something that like you have to have to get sexually stimulated. And a kink is just something
that you're into and maybe it's a little out of the norm. Yeah. For me personally, my fetish
would be oral stuff. I get the hardest with oral.
stuff and that's the stuff that gets me going easiest. But this other stuff is definitely kinkwise.
It turns me on and it gets me excited and I love to see it out in the wild.
I've never had a furry on. And let me tell you to call into my show 11 years after I've been
podcasting. I have like over a thousand episodes. Like, you know, it's a pretty big accomplishment to
talk to me about something I never had. So I'm so glad you're on. And it sounds like you're really
knowledgeable. I mean, you already used a word I had never fucking heard about before. So when did the
whole, okay, first of all, let me get a snapshot of where.
you're at right now. Like how old are you? Are you in a relationship? Are you single guy? And then
give me your sexual identity. Currently, I am single. And I am 25. I'm very young intellectual.
But I have experienced a good bit. And sexually, I am pansexual, which means I swing any way
into the sun. I don't really care which way it goes. And demi-romantic. I take a while to warm
up to someone romantically wise. It takes about six months or so. I like that. So you're giving me your
sexual identity and your sexual orientation, right? Like, those are the two things, which is very
interesting. Okay, so now is a furry, like being a furry in your age range, like something that
most people know about, you know, because like I never heard about it. Like that was not something
that was like going down in my lifetime or I don't even think like, you know, 15, 20 years ago,
right? Like, when did being a furry become like a thing? I think it got a lot more popular when
mainstream media hit, like with all the technology and everything being more publicized with
knowledge wise. Yeah, yeah. So people could spread the word that they're doing it. You mean?
A lot more popular. Right. You mean because people are talking about that they're doing it and so other
people are like, oh yeah, I'm not alone and you just realize that there are people that are doing it.
I mean, like, where does it even come from? Like, when did you first realize you were into this?
For me, it came on very young. I got into furry stuff through YouTube videos. There were a lot of
YouTube compilations of art that would go around that played to, like, music.
And after that, I started doing art on my own.
I would start off by, like, tracing over that stuff and just enjoyed making it.
Making what?
Pictures of, like, furries, meaning people.
Yeah.
Pictures of people dressed in animal costumes.
That's, like, what you would say a furry is.
Because if you're drawing it, I get if you're being it, but, like, if you're drawing it,
What is a drawing of a furry look like, a person with a, like an animal skin with a person face?
Less that, more in between the two.
Oh, interesting.
Like, it's a human form that can have a dog's face and fur all over the body, stuff like that.
Think of more cartoonized animals.
I don't understand.
Yeah.
I understand.
When you're dressed up as a furry, are you covering your face or does your face show?
or you in full, full, like, costume?
So the ones I have, I currently have two, I would consider fursuits.
They're partials, which means they are fur suit head, hands, tail, and foot paws can be included.
I do not have mine, though.
And I've made them kind of myself, so they, I can send pictures, too.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, yeah, to go, because I think a lot of people are like me.
they don't really understand this whole thing.
Like unless you're in this,
in this culture, right?
Or you have this kink.
How would you know?
I mean, you were just like Googling like any young kid on YouTube and you started seeing these videos.
And because you're an artist, like I'm sure it was just like an art thing, right?
At first?
Mm-hmm.
And when did it become a, oh, I'm going to do this and then a sexual thing?
Because I feel like one has to come before the other, right?
Like eventually it turns into a sexual thing for you.
Yeah.
So through artistry, it went through one of the old,
comedy apps. And through that, I joined messaging groups. And through the messaging groups,
I was able to experience different things via talking with different people, role-playing different
scenarios, and finding stories to read on the internet, which really sparked my interest
there. Now, give me a sample of, like, what that even is. Like, what is a furry scenario
that someone would say that would have you intrigued?
Is it like an animal dealing with a human animal dealing with another human animal?
Is it a human dealing with an animal?
Is it two animals that don't know they're fucking humans?
Like what is what is like the actual story if you had to tell me like if you want to,
like pretend I'm a furry and you want to turn me on?
Like what is the story that you're, these people are talking about?
What are those stories that you are passing around in that messenger service?
Well, it can really depend. Furry is kind of like a skin that goes over everything. So what I'm interested in personally is exhibitionism, voyeurism play. And I like glory holes and stuff like that. So those would all turn me on. But dressed with the skin on. Yeah. And furries are more anthropomorphized like animals. So the genitalia could be more animal-like as well. Like wolf people could have knots on their cocks and have more.
pointed red dicks. It's an interesting play on things and can go more into monster play as well.
Like if people are interested into werewolves and vampires, the such.
Yeah. And that would still be under the furry category, but they're just into monster furries.
I had a girl on her boyfriend on, but this is so long ago that I don't think that there was a term for it.
I don't know. Like, I don't remember her saying, oh, yeah, we're into being furies, but they were into dressing up like monsters and fucking each other.
And I thought that was like the craziest thing.
I'd never heard of it.
But it wasn't like an episode about it, you know?
I mean, I sound like I'm so dumb because I don't know.
But I think a lot of people don't understand it.
And I think, you know, listen, the people that are going to be tuning into this episode are people
that are furries like you.
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That's,
you know,
that's what's going to drive this conversation with you.
For me,
is my curiosity about it because I really,
obviously,
don't know anything.
So in that chat room,
it's like all different or whatever that place was where you got into.
And this is when it becomes like sexualized because like in those rooms,
people are doing like glory hole scenarios and stuff like that or talking about it.
Is that what's going on in that place that you were,
found yourself in?
Yeah.
No,
More group chatty.
So normal conversations go on.
Otherwise, you could be in like not safe or work group chats where people would share pictures around and interest that they have.
And you can message them like solo.
And you would be able to enjoy like role play conversations with them where you can go through different scenarios and enjoy different interests that people have.
Like there's been a couple I've been through where people have enjoyed scenarios where people like needle.
through their genitalia surfaces down there.
What does that have to do of being a furry?
Like dressed up like needles?
Like needle needles?
I'm just saying it can cover different aspects.
So they were still in their like furry fursona.
Enjoying that part of life where I can be in my furry persona enjoying like the exhibitionism
and glory whole part of life.
Yeah.
No, I get it.
So really what it is is like, listen, you could, when you're dressed up as a furry,
you could have any one of the kinks that are out there for regular.
people. I mean, it's no different, right? I'm sure there's, you know, like that it's not like specific
to being a furry, just that when you're dressed, maybe now you're going to indulge in these other
things that are regular kings. People that aren't furries are into being an exhibitionist. You happen
to like being a furry and you're an exhibitionist. Is that how it plays out like it's two separate
things? Yeah. Yeah. I get it. So, I mean, like, were you, you know, listen, you're 25,
you're pansexual, you're a furry. I feel like it. It's, you're a furry. I feel like, it's, you're
your generation and when you're sitting across from people, like maybe that's not so crazy,
right, because you are younger. You know, if you were my age and you were sitting with your friends,
like maybe you couldn't bring that shit up because they'd look at you like you're a freak, right?
Because it's like they don't know anything about it. But in your age range, right? Is this something
that you're like out about and it's like a lot of, you know, you have friends that maybe are into the
same thing? Or is it something that is like this hidden secret that you have to have?
Oh yeah, no, through those messaging groups, you were able to find plenty of people.
Like down in Arizona where I reside, I've been able to find probably close to two or
300 people that have been out here that are all like in the know about each other that enjoy
the furry stuff.
And another like close to two or 300 for the pup side of stuff, which is a little different.
You want to explain that?
Yeah, so the Pupside of stuff is more pet play as a kink in itself, which is a headspace type of thing.
It follows along with BDSM.
Like Dom and Sub.
Yep.
Yeah.
And with Masters and Daddies and Littles can be a part of that group too.
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
Uh-huh.
So basically it's just an interest of putting on like a hood dressing up as.
like a dog and acting out as a dog would, it kind of makes you, well, for me, it makes me
more feral in the moment. I forget about stuff in the past and forget about things I need to
do in the future a lot easier and just focus on what one person would be interested in kind of
thing. But who are you in that scenario? The dog or the master? Oh, I'm definitely the dog. I could be
a guard dog at times, which would be
a bratty, a bratty sup.
Someone who looks around and
like helps out where they need to.
It's kind of like the flip role in between being the submissive and being an alpha.
Yeah, I get it.
Let me ask you a question that probably other people are thinking because I'm thinking,
I just want to make sure that like, I mean, you know,
if you're like sitting around pretending you're a puppy and then you're fucking somebody
and you're like, you know, making these sort of attachments between being an animal and sex, right?
And you're wiring yourself to be interested in that. I mean, is that like something that, like,
you see a dog? Do you see a dog and you see a dog when you're out in the real world? Or like,
you know, do people become attracted to animals? Like, is it like, is there a blurry line? Because
that's kind of fucked up. No, people can very quickly. For me, I consider it in ways of consent.
With animals like that, I don't think they have a good question.
on what consent is or what could be.
No, they have zero grasp.
Not a good one.
They have zero grasp.
If anyone's hucking up with a dog,
it's no different than hucking up with a child.
I mean, it's a sickness.
That's not like,
and that's where this could be, like,
kind of fucked up because that's non-consensual.
Does that happen in that community
that people cross those lines?
From what I've seen in those places,
consent is top priority.
A lot of people love consent.
they say consent is sexy, they pushed it to the front most.
I've seen people stop play mid-sessions to ask questions and make sure things are okay.
It seems like a very loving and caring community.
Right. But are there a lot of furries that are getting in trouble and getting arrested?
There was just a whole big news story about a girl that was like arrested for screwing dogs.
You know what I mean? On like camera, I don't even know.
I mean, you're like, I mean, is that something that happens a lot in that community that people
I'm not talking about consent with another person.
I'm talking about these people because they're wiring themselves into a situation that isn't consensual.
It's, you know, a lot, right?
So if you're, like, pretending to be with a puppy, what about the real thing?
Like, is that those people then now have to scratch that itch by crossing that line and doing something that's, like, basically illegal?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, there are definitely people that have done that.
I've not personally heard them within our group.
I haven't heard of anything like that.
I haven't heard of anybody getting kicked out around stuff like that.
But they would be.
But I'm sure.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
I just want to make sure we're not talking about anything fucked up or illegal like that.
Because I don't do stuff that is consensual, right?
I once had the weirdest email I ever got was from a guy who was like into something with insects.
I was like, sorry, that's non-consensual.
Yeah.
I'm like, I don't fucking care.
It's like fucked up.
It's weird.
All right.
All right.
So listen, when people, people do cross that line, but that's not the people, like, those people get thrown out.
Like, within the community that is frowned upon, right?
That's not what this is about.
Yes.
Yeah.
This is like play.
Yes.
No, this is play.
This is exploration.
This is fantasy.
Understanding.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Great.
So now, were you like, like, you know, and I typically ask anyone with any kind of fetish or king,
like at a young age when you're starting to realize you're into this.
Like, does it, is confusing for you?
Or is it, or is it like, oh.
this is just who I am and like I this is great.
I mean,
how did you feel about it when you first started to get like really into it?
And it became like a sexual thing for you.
It,
I want to say it was more gradual because the furry stuff has kind of been around through all,
all my childhood.
So it gradually increased into that sexual along with like my maturing into being a
sexual being.
Yeah.
So I believe it was more gradual and it didn't really.
really feel all that confusing. I knew I was like different from most people. Yeah. But it felt
more just I had a better understanding of what my kinks were compared to somebody else. People who
still needed to explore. Yeah, I get it. And that was probably just from being a bit more sexual as a
child than I should have been. All you're Googling. I mean, unfortunately, I think that's a common
nowadays because you do have that iPad and you can go down the rabbit hole like anybody else at a young,
at a young age.
Now, when you started dating, you are pansexual.
Like, when did you realize you were pansexual?
Did you always know?
I think it, I, I feel like I always knew I was bisexual,
which is just swinging both ways.
And I think pansexual is just an easier term for, like, just going any way under the sun.
Yeah, because now we have other people, like trans people and stuff, right?
Like, I mean, it's kind of just like, you know, you're dating a person.
You're not dating like a specific sex or something like that, right?
That's how I see Pan.
It's a very just open.
Oh, yeah.
No, I find everyone out there at least a little bit hot.
Right.
Even a furry.
Even someone dressed up as a bear, right?
I mean, like that's where you're, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so now who did you start dating when you started dating?
Like, who did you lose your virginity to first, a guy or a girl?
It was a man.
Okay.
And how old were you?
I believe I was, well, there's two different stories.
Yeah.
There's one in my childhood that it was a childhood friend that I got to explore an experiment with.
So that one was losing virginity truly around the age of 12-ish.
Right.
But truly seeking it out on my own and experiencing it on my own wasn't until about 19.
Okay.
And now at that point, because you're just having experiences with guys, had you been having even just any kind of experience with women?
Not a lot.
not until I hit the age of 23 about.
Okay.
And is that when you lost your virginity to a female?
Yes.
Okay.
And did you like it just as much as you liked being with a guy?
Oh, yeah.
Right.
Totally.
Like if you were on the spectrum, would you be just like right in the middle,
totally into both?
Yep.
Yep.
Yeah.
I think a lot of people wind up in the, you know, on that spectrum.
Okay.
So now you didn't mention something about a lot of trans people being big into being
furies, right? Like, is there some sort of connection there? It feels community-based, probably.
The furries are like a very open community where they'll kind of accept people's weirdness and
strange abnormalities that a lot of people wouldn't accept. Yeah, I get it. So it's a place where
misfits. Yeah, a place where misfits or people that feel like they don't belong someplace,
they could, they're going to be welcome there. So they find.
themselves there. Yeah. Yeah, interesting. Where do you get outfits and stuff? Amazon? Personally,
I've made my own, but there's a lot of creators out there that you can commission through places via
Etsy. There's a website out there called Fur Affinity that a lot of people put their artwork and
their fur suit commissions on that you can buy through there. Are you still doing the art yourself?
Yeah, I do it from time to time. Electrician business takes up a lot of my time. I'm working
like 48 hour weeks so I don't have a lot of time to do on stuff.
But I do love making art and all that stuff in my own.
So where does this community sort of meet up?
Where do these parties that you go to that have back rooms where there's stuff going down?
Like tell me that whole world.
Like where's that?
What's going on with that?
And when did you get into that?
So in the furry community, I started visiting a lot of furries that went to an eye hop for a while there.
They still have those.
I don't think they have them anymore here in these kids.
The IOP restaurant?
Yep.
Okay.
And we would go there.
We rented out the back party room and we were dressed up like animals.
The customers would enjoy little photos through the back party room and we'd enjoy each other's company.
Yeah.
Eat some pancakes and have fun.
Wow.
What kind of animals do people choose?
Like it's just across the board, whatever you want, including like you said,
monsters and stuff that is like out there or not.
necessarily like a real animal, but one they created?
Mm-hmm. Yeah, people create their own animals all the time.
There's stuff called Dutch Angel Dragons, which is kind of like a mix between a dragon and a
horse at times.
Uh-huh.
There are like phalanxes, which are cats, fox hybrids and stuff like that.
I've known a lot of dragons.
I've known a lot of dogs.
A lot of cats is what's on the scene.
Personally, I go with a saber-toothed tiger as my name.
Interesting.
And then my secondary suit is a black cat named Holo based around Halloween.
She has little pumpkin scars on the sides of her cheek.
With tiger as my main.
Interesting.
And then my secondary suit is a black cat named Holo based around Halloween.
She has little pumpkin scars on the sides of her cheek.
Oh, my God.
Let me ask you this because, you know, there used to be this little questionnaire where you'd be like,
oh, what's your favorite animal?
if you could be only at one body of water.
Like you answer these questions and they'd be like,
oh, this means this about you.
You know, do you feel like people pick, like in the furry community that people are picking animals for like a psychological reason?
You know, like, is it that deep or is it just like you just like the way it looks?
Well, it can certainly be that way.
There's a stigma around certain animals like foxes are known as the general bottom.
Oh, really?
And cats are known to be more sly.
dogs are more open and more exertive people kind of stuff.
Yeah.
It can definitely go into that.
Right.
So your personality sometimes does sort of, because of your personality, you might wind up with one animal over another.
It is like an extension of who you really are.
Maybe you could get that vibe as a furry.
Like, and like, you know, you said that you tend to be, what was that a saber tooth?
What did you call yourself?
What are you into?
Sabretooth Tiger.
Yeah, Sabretooth Tiger.
Now, because you're a saber-toothed tiger and you want to hook up with another furry,
like do you have like a specific furry that you're into as a tiger?
Not that I'm into.
I generally go after dogs because I'm interested in the knot fantasy and the play around that.
The not, what do you mean the knot fantasy?
So with dog anatomy, they have a red pointed cock with a bulbous knot at the base.
And that's a fun fantasy of play around, especially with certain stimulants.
on the rectum and like G-spot stimulation.
So there have been toys made around that have been like fantasy based and I can certainly
send videos and pictures of that.
Yeah, you could do that on my Discord.
Like that's where like X-rated stuff comes in because this sounds a little X-rated.
But like, you know, so you tend to go to dogs because they have these kinds of things
attached to them is what you're saying like in their outfits.
So now I know you're at IHOP.
eventually there's these parties where there's back rooms where people are getting it on.
It sounds like, you know, furry sex parties.
Like, what, I mean, that wasn't happening at IHOP.
Like, was it happening in a hotel attached to it or where do those happen?
A lot of times, I believe people just went off to their own houses and enjoyed, like, little companies of five or six.
Oh, okay.
So you would break off and have little parties back in places.
Yeah.
And it would lead to sex.
I mean, these are sex parties, little orgies for orgies.
Yeah.
And that happens a lot more at conventions, too.
There's stuff like Anthrocon or AZ Furcon that happens a lot of times.
Have you been to those?
And people enjoy those stuff in the hotels.
I have not been able to go to those, sadly.
Mm-hmm.
But I would love to.
I've experienced more sexual play through the puppy side of stuff, to be honest with you.
So, and where do you experience that play and tell me about that whole world for you?
Because we're talking about the saber-tooth tiger world.
Now, this is when you're a puppy, right?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
So the whole puppy world started when I went to a furry party house.
And the owner got really attracted to me and interested me in, or interested, what's the word I'm thinking of?
Got you interested.
They introduced me into the pup scene, which I had never even known was a thing.
And as soon as I got introduced to it, I knew exactly, boom, that's me.
I want to do that.
I want to enjoy that stuff.
And his husband, more up north, has a rather large house that he likes to throw parties at that people will come to.
It's probably, I want to say it's around 20 to 50-ish people each time he has a party there.
And he'll have like summer parties and winter parties.
And he has a big garage that he'll throw down like,
these wrestling mats in that you can mosh in as puppies, which is basically just wrestle around
with other puppies and enjoy a more feral side to life. Right. So walk me through one of those parties.
So each one of the parties will have like food accommodations and stuff like that, a general backroom
where people will be able to enjoy sexual activities with each other. There's not a lot of sexual
stuff that happens out and about at the party, but it is a very open party where you can be
naked and in gear, which gear for me is my hood, some knee pads if I need them, and a tail generally,
which is a showtail with a belt that goes around my waist. Right. And what is the vibe that you get?
Like, what is it about putting that on that is, is it hot to you? Is it empowering? Is it making you
into a submissive? Is it the role play aspect of it? Like, what is it about putting that on that
makes you eventually want to go into that back room? Oh, it's definitely empowering. It's more
headspace stuff, where it throws you into, it can throw you into a kind of headspace where
it's more attention giving and you want to follow someone's lead in a way. I kind of related to
like that old suit and tie method where you can come home after a long day of work and your woman
will drag you around by your tie and tell you to order stuff like that. That's everything I'm about.
So I'll have a lead on. People can drag me around by a lead. If I get dragged to the back room,
then I can have some fun. Otherwise, I would seek it out maybe just by asking on my own.
Right. But I mean, you like, it's kind of like a part of you that's like being into it, that's into being a submissive.
Yes, yes.
And putting that on, though, the outfit, like just furthers that feeling of being a submissive?
Is that what the outfit is about?
Or is that just it looks cool and you're an artist and it's just an interesting expression?
It definitely furthers being a submissive, but it also throws you into like a more feral headspace where you can act out as a dog.
And you can bark at people and enjoy it.
the aspects that come along with that. You can get treats for doing tricks. You can have
fantasy play around that aspect. Oh my God. So in that back, all right, so get me to that
back room. Okay. I need to hear some shit about that back room because I'm, you know,
are people like, which is barking and making animal noise? People can definitely be doing that.
There's a swing set up in the back room where people can lay down and enjoy everything that comes from
that. I've seen one pup get surrounded by at least four different people. And there's been
a spa I've gone to with a similar scenario north with a couple of other pups that have been
beautiful to me as well. In what sense? They've just been very accommodating. They've been able to,
it's been my first experience with a dark room. So they came all the way down from where they were up
there picked me up and then drug me up there to the spa to have like a little vacation weekend
and immediately showed me the dark room new i would be all about that and let me be for like an
hour and a half with the randoms that were in there came back checked up on me drug me back to their
room and enjoyed some time with me there and very fun scenario how many people so it's like an orgy
i mean you're getting it on with like multiple people dressed up you're the puppy in a dark room
What are they?
Are they dressed up?
Are they humans interacting with a puppy?
Or are they other puppies or dogs or furries?
So at the spa, I did see a couple of other puppies, but they're generally normal patrons
that are interested in like the whole puppy atmosphere.
Oh my God.
Do you think that you got some like, like, people that are like, what is it called when
you're into animals?
Like, you know, fuck tough thing.
Are some of these people that are coming in there as regular people wanting to
fuck a puppy in a dark room?
Like, are they maybe people that have that?
problem
because I see it as a problem
anyone that's like
interested in animals in real life
is like they're you know
they've got a sickness
there's this is sick in the head
you know it's like it's because it's criminal
behavior you shouldn't look at an animal
and be attracted to it
so I'm just wondering like do you worry
that these people that are showing up could be
you know I would call that person
a creep I don't call anyone a fucking creep that goes on my show
I don't care if you're doing orgies gangbings
glory holes I don't give a fuck about that shit
but when you're doing stuff that's like
you know illegal to me that's
It's like a creep.
Like, you know, do you worry that those people are involved in that scenario because it's
sort of fostering their fantasy?
Oh, yeah.
No, I definitely do.
But that goes with life.
I have to give people the benefit of the doubt, right?
Yeah, yeah, of course.
Yeah.
Listen, I could tell that you're not in it for that reason.
I'm just worried that, like, you have regular people coming into this dark room and they
get to fuck a puppy.
Like, it's like, what kind of person wants to fuck a puppy dressed up?
I get furry to furry, you know, furies.
and furies, you're all into being this thing.
You got this artistic kink.
I feel like there's something creative involved in it, right?
Probably a lot of people that are into this are also creative, right?
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But the regular people that are coming to a dark room to fuck a puppy, like, what's their kink?
Do you know what I mean?
You don't think?
I mean, are they in the furry community?
Like, does the furry community look down on people that aren't, like, dressed up that want to come in and fuck them?
Or are you down for that?
No.
From what I understand, the only thing that's really looked down upon in the furry community is something called ruining the magic where you take your suit head off in the middle of suiting.
Yeah, right. And you break character. Yeah. Yeah. That's not cool. All right. I don't want to ruin your stories. So you're in this back room and your puppy. So there's a bunch of puppies and a bunch of randoms. And are they men and women or strictly men? Like, who's coming to those puppy play parties?
So the spa is strictly men
And with the
Play parties that are up at the
Husband's house up north
It is more
More open
I haven't seen a lot of women there
Though I've definitely seen a couple show up
It's more trans-fem that show up there
Oh really?
Yeah interesting
And so you know how many people will you have sex
And one of the spa trips
Yeah
How many?
Many. I said how many? Not yet. Oh, sorry. Last time I went, it was probably close to 20-ish people.
Wow. Without counting repeats. Yeah.
I like to use terms and label. Do you just consider that a gang bang, a furry gang bang?
It very much could be, but for me, gang bang is all at the same time.
Yeah. And this is spanning how long? Like for the whole weekend, for a couple of
of hours?
The spa lasted about
8 to 10 hours, I would say.
Wow, all day.
Yeah, so we just enjoyed the night there.
Oh, my God.
I mean, this is like, it's interesting.
It's kind of like cosplay, but like, it's like,
you know, it is very much like the swinger world, right?
Like what's going down there?
That's a sex party, but people are just dressed up and it's a very specific,
right?
Niche.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, and the pub hood stuff has been very nice for like going out to bar events and stuff
like that because as soon as I see another person with a pup hood on, I know as soon as I see
them they're friendly, I could walk up to them and I can start initiating conversation.
And we have at least one familiarity we can share upon.
At the spa, every pup I saw that walked around would always like brush up against you and enjoy
like a little touch as they walked by.
Just showing that they know you're there and they like what they see.
Yeah. Oh my God. Interesting. Is there a certain breed of pup that you are?
I am more border collie and golden retriever, I would say, between those two. Border collie,
because I'm very energetic. I bounce around everywhere and go from place to place.
And why golden retriever?
Golden retriever, because I requite that to like loyalty. And kind of, uh, like, loyalty.
Uh-huh.
And kind of like an open caringness.
Yeah.
So I'm very like, I try to be careful with what I say and I try to be like careful with what I see and what I do.
Yeah.
Like if people are heard, I try to be one of the first responders to that situation, see what they need, everything that goes down.
Question though.
And sorry for all these.
They might seem like dumb questions, but I'm just like a regular person.
I've never heard of this before.
Like, and so I think if I want to know.
Yeah, I think if I want to know other people.
people do. Like, so when you're in this pup thing, you know, because it sounds like two separate
things, like you're a furry and then the, or, you know, it's like a sort of a separate part of it.
But when you do the puppy thing for yourself, are you strictly interested in hooking up with
human beings because you want to have like an owner and you're the puppy? Is that how that scene is
always going down? Or are you a puppy with another puppy sometimes or with a cat or with a monster?
Yeah. So it can go anywhere.
On those mosh pits, actually, a lot of times with moshing, it can end up where two pups will wrestle and the one who wins the wrestle battle will get to top the other pup.
So that can be a very interesting scenario there.
It kind of shows that feral dominance within that play.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
And is there a lot of animal noise going on then?
Is there only animal noise?
Now, when you're in that mode and you're in that spa, right, like for that whole day, is breaking cat, like, is talking?
as a human breaking character or are you allowed to talk?
Oh yeah, no.
People are open to that all the time.
There have been certain handlers that like to say to their subs,
like keep your mouth shut, you know, only wolves, only barks, stuff like that.
Yeah, yeah, like staying character.
Yeah, I'm more of a solo dog, so I go and do what I want kind of and just read the vibe.
Now, you said that at the spot, it's mostly guys.
I'm assuming there's girls that are into being a furry and into this whole scene, right?
Is it more...
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Like, where do you...
Where does that stuff go down?
More in just the specific furry parties that you go to that you said that you want you go to?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, it's very...
It's a lot rarer for women to be a part of the furry scene from what I've seen.
Oh, really?
And with the pup scene, it is basically been introduced into society as a gay male thing.
So there's not a lot of female in that as well.
But I've seen a lot more females going into...
to the pup side of stuff, which is very interesting.
And on the furry side of stuff, they're definitely there.
Within our groups, there's percentage-wise, probably 20% women to 80% men.
Oh, wow.
That's interesting.
That different.
And has that changed over time?
Do you see more women being into it now, like you said, you did for the puppy thing?
Oh, yeah.
No, it used to be closer to 5% women, I would say.
Oh, so most people that are in that world are bisexual or are they gay?
Or like what does what do you see in that?
Like what's a percentage of that breakdown in that world?
Yeah.
Mostly buyer gay, I would say.
Mm-hmm.
Because there's a lot of topping and bottom.
Are you,
are you versed?
Like,
will you do either?
Yeah,
I switch.
My main goal was sex is to please the other person.
Right.
That's what gets me off the most.
Your sub.
You're very much a true sub.
Let me ask you this.
Have you had any girlfriends or boyfriends?
Like long term?
Nothing long term.
I think the longest I've had has been six months or
So that's long for your age.
Yeah, that's a lot of time, six months.
You know, it's almost a year.
I mean, like, you know, when you get really old, like six months is like, it's like you
blink your eyes and it's gone.
But when you're young, six months is a long time.
Now, was that with a guy or a girl?
Or a trans?
That was with a guy.
Okay.
Now, have you ever dated a woman?
No.
Even short term.
No.
Do you prefer dating men or is it just, you just haven't met the right woman for you?
I mean, you're super young, you know, so.
Yeah.
It could be that.
I think it's more just I haven't met the right woman.
Yeah.
Because the woman I'm after is someone who's more dominant.
So I always say the one who approaches me and asks me for a date, that's the one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's yet to happen.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, the girls like to be approached or have the guy come get them kind of thing.
But there's the dominant ones out there for sure.
So, you know, like I said, you're young.
Now, when you are, though, dating, are you typically dating within that community so you
don't have to worry about, like, telling people?
or do you date on like regular apps or your regular life?
And if so, when and how do you bring up this whole part of your life?
Yeah, it's usually dating within that community.
For now, I'm not really looking for anything, which is kind of when it gets thrown into your face, right?
Yeah, yeah, of course.
But yeah, it's always been within the community.
I haven't really been on any apps.
I've tried Tinder and stuff, but the apps have been so riddled with ads that it feels almost impossible to use.
well listen you have a you said you have a community of like hundreds of people with you know and they're probably like are they all are they mostly like what's the demographics of the people in your community are they I know that they're largely male but do they tend to be younger you know like around your yeah I can go from we there's safe work sides of the community that foster to like the younger generation where there's like I think the youngest is probably 15 or so right and there's no not within the
Right, and there's no sex going on in that part.
Safe for work.
They keep that separate.
Yeah.
And I think the oldest gender group can go out to 63, I believe, is age.
Right.
But are most people around your age?
Yes, yes.
No, the general demographic is 20 to 30, I would say.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Because, you know, most people older don't, it wasn't like a thing, you know.
And we didn't have stuff to Google when we were younger.
there were no electronics like that out there for us to use to find out about this stuff.
So I feel like it's something that's new.
And that's why I would figure it was people born around your aid.
Now, do your friends that have nothing to do with this community know that you're a furry
and that you're pan and that you're into all this stuff?
Oh, yeah.
No, my parents know too.
Oh, really?
How do they know?
Because you just like left your shit out and you don't care.
You just told them.
I mean, it's a very different world nowadays.
You know what I mean?
Oh, yeah.
No, my dad found my doldo in the bathroom.
and he drug me outside and he's like,
that's not a thing straight men do,
so be straight with me.
Oh my God.
Sorry,
sorry,
but straight men can use a dildo,
okay,
first of all,
tell your dad that,
okay,
just because you put a dick up your ass and be straight.
You know,
you can use a dildo and be straight.
You know,
anal action is good for anybody.
But so he,
though,
was,
like he asked you and then you said,
yes,
I'm into guys and I'm bisexual.
What was that conversation like?
Yeah,
no,
I told him I'm bisexual.
I swing both ways.
But when did you tell me you were a furry?
Okay, that's a whole different thing.
Oh, so the furry was when I was really young.
Yeah, the furry came on just through like an interest in movies.
Like I was always interested in the movie, Balto and like Zootopia was the newest movie.
I'm trying to think of older movies that I had big interests and that would have led to the more furry side of life.
Yeah.
And you think that that gave your parents clues and did they ever, they brought it up?
up to you because I wouldn't think it's weird if my little kid was watching, you know, furry movies.
You just think it's like, oh, cutesy thing. I don't know. Like, why would your parents even think
about that? Yeah, I had plenty of art laying around that was all furry stylized. And from the time
of 12, I think by the time of 14, when I started to understand more of what furry was
completely, like just an interest in anthropomorphized animals and liking to draw them and stuff
like that. Yeah. I kind of explained it to my parents in that way and they accepted me there. Oh,
but did they ever realize that this is something that's like, and listen, I don't necessarily
think that your parents need to know about your intimate life anyway, right? Like a lot of times
people make rude comments about people on my show that are having orgies or gang being like, oh,
would they tell their children? It's like, no, but maybe you don't tell your children what you
did last night missionary style either. You know what I mean? Like sometimes like what you do in the
bedroom is no one's fucking business. So like, you know, a straight,
Vanilla person is not necessarily going to tell their parents what they're into sexually.
So I don't know if it's even if it's a stupid question to say like,
does your parents know that this is a part of that part of your life?
Like that's how intense it is.
I don't know.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, they do.
No, they definitely do.
They have a million questions like I had.
They haven't asked me a lot.
I think I've described it to them in a well enough way where they've wrapped their head around it and have accepted it.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, they definitely have the address of like that orgy party I go to of North and...
You mean just to make sure you're safe?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Listen, you live in such a different world where like, you know, we had no, we didn't talk to our parents at all.
They didn't even hang out with us.
Whereas nowadays, it's so amazing that you could have that open line of communication with your parents, you know?
That's great.
Mm-hmm.
Especially.
Yeah, especially because like, for safety reasons, they know when you're going to the orgy.
You know where it is.
And if I don't show up for three days, they know where to ask.
They could go to the cops.
They know exactly where you got murdered.
Yep.
Well, do you have brothers or sisters?
No, I'm an only child.
Oh, okay, because then, of course, that would lead to those questions.
So you're their only child.
They know that you're pansexual because of that dildo, like you told them I'm into everything.
Like, I'm just down for whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's cool.
And like so your friends, what was that answer to like your friends outside of?
of the community, like guys that you grew up with, like, or something.
Like, they just have always known that this is something that you're into?
Yeah.
So that childhood friend I talked about earlier, he definitely grew up as a furry with me.
Oh.
And was a part of that community.
And I've had other friends like that that have been furries that have kind of fallen
in and out of the community.
Yeah.
They like to create characters and enjoy the character aspect.
Mm-hmm.
And kind of lose touch.
with that character for me, my character has always been like more a part of me. So it's like an
expression, my identity in a way. Right, that you don't ever see yourself losing it. Yeah.
I was going to ask you, like moving forward, you know, if you look at your future, like, do you feel
like you would always, you know, if it's going to be like a long-term partnership eventually down the
line, would that person have to engage in this kind of stuff with you? Like that person, does that person
have to very much be a part of that world?
I would say kind of, I would be interested.
For sure, if I ended up with a partner,
I would love to bring them to the parties
and introduce them to all my friends there.
Yeah.
And see if they would enjoy it.
I mean, for sure, if it's not their type of style,
they could go and do their own thing,
but I would still enjoy to,
or try to enjoy those parties on my own.
And I don't know if that would be an issue relationship-wide.
Yeah, because really, if you really think about it, I would say that, you know, this is a non-monogamous lifestyle, right?
This is everyone's pretty open sexually, right?
Like, no one's, like, you're not, you're not looking, if you're dating somebody in the furry world, right?
Like, or even if they're not in the world, but you still are.
I mean, you, you need that free pass because this becomes sexual.
This is always like a sexual thing for you, right?
Yeah.
So you would, you're going to always be having sex with other people.
Like, you will never be monogamous.
to one person?
Maybe when I'm 55 or so.
I was always the opposite.
Like, oh, maybe when I'm like 50, 60, I'll be a swinger.
You know what I mean, I'll do all the normal stuff.
But then, you know, live it up when I'm older.
You're like living it up now and you're like, when I'm old,
maybe I'll settle down.
That's probably the more correct way.
But maybe never, you know, who knows?
That's so funny.
So you don't have any relationship now.
Now, you know, are these parties, do you go to them like months?
Are they every week? Is it something that's like, you know, because listen, when I was your age, I was like a party girl, I'm out at the bars every weekend, you know, going out. Is your weekends always spent within that world? Or do you have like, you know, or are you only in that world like on your weekends or in your play like, you know, once a month or something?
So through one of the furry parties, he likes to throw that once a month. Yeah. And the big orgy party that happens up north. That one is generally thrown.
Uh, every three to five months, ish. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
They like to have one for summer, like to have one for winter.
Yeah.
Those are the big, big ones. They usually have one for Halloween-ish.
Uh-huh.
But that jump in between, like, winter to summer is always the biggest.
Now, when you did book your appointment, I was like, you know, I, most of the time I'm
taping two people a day every week, all the time. I just look at the name, you know, and I don't
know really much else about the person except what they wrote, but like you wrote like three
different names when you signed up and I was like, oh, when your appointment was coming, I'm like,
are I talking to three furries or like, you know, or those, do you have different furry expressions,
like different furry personas? Yeah, so the three names I go by are Venti, which is my saber tooth
persona. And I made him based, his name originally was Vent. And I used him as a
character to get emotions out onto paper to express more, like, I don't want to say darker
sides of life, but like more aggressive and more different sides to that expression.
And his name became Venti after I had developed more affiliation with the character and
wanted to use him more. Yeah. Is that the Savor Tooth Tiger? Yes. Right.
is tundra the puppy?
Yes,
tundra is my puppy and also based off my border collie persona,
which is why I say more border collie as dog.
Yeah.
And what's the third name or is that just your real name?
I won't say it.
Yeah, that one's just my real name.
Okay.
So sometimes you're venty,
sometimes you're tundra,
but you feel,
and sometimes you're regular person.
Do you feel those parts of yourself like separately,
but together at all times?
Oh, yeah.
No, for my, the other fur suit I wear, my black cat, her name is Hollow.
And I used her to kind of explore a more femme-dom side to sexuality.
Oh, that's interesting.
So I used her in roleplay a lot like that.
So whenever I throw her on, I'm kind of, it helps me straighten my back out.
I'm standing more confident.
It's kind of like a headspace thing where it throws me into a different, more dominant side.
Yeah, but feminine.
Yes.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Because typically, like, you know, people think feminine submissive, right?
Like those are together.
But this is like feminine dominant.
Yes.
Yeah, interesting.
And that's hollow?
Yep.
How many personas do you have?
Just the three.
Those three.
Okay.
Because Hollow wasn't on here, but it was just the other ones.
But maybe there wasn't a room.
I was like, I am I talking to like a bunch of people that are going to
call in? I'm like, I know, it's all one person. So how many outfits do you have currently?
Just like the four or does each one of those sort of have different outfits that you could put on within
that same character? Like outfits as in the fur suits themselves? Yeah, the first suits. Yeah. Uh-huh. Does each
one just have one? I just have the two. So the two I've made on my own, which are my saber tooth and
my holocat. And I can definitely send pictures of those. Yeah. And the third one I'm working on right now is my
border collie. So when you go to those pop play parties though where you're like getting banged out
by so many people what are you using if you don't have an outfit for that?
Just generally face. You can just walk in there as normal. Not all the people are wearing
pup masks and a lot of handlers are showing their face and okay so the pop play is a little bit
different than the furries. It's not like it's totally you have to be in the skin thing. You don't have to
have a furry outfit on, correct? It's like it's separate. Yeah, I know. The the pup play stuff is
just had space. People can get thrown into that puppy headspace without even having the mask on from
what I've seen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's why you were, I think you were explaining it
correctly and I just didn't fucking get it. You know, I'm thinking like the pup play is like a bunch of guys,
you know, a bunch of furries dressed up as pop puppies, you know, dogs and then the regular people
that come in. But it's not necessarily that. It's more like you said. And I think you said it's like a
headspace. It's really not like that acted out, right? Yeah. Well, you say yeah, like I should know,
but like, yeah, no, it's, it can be acted out. Like, there's definitely a lot of wolf's barks. There's people
that walk around on all fours, stuff like that. Yeah, I remember how to guy who, and I think it's always
been a part of the King community, BDSM at least, right? Because like a lot of people want to be
collared and with a leash and they want to walk around, right? It's like, it's that's, that's,
same kind of a thing. I remember how a guy who had some girl he was banging. He's like, yes, she wants
me to like lock her up in a closet and put her on a leash and walk her around. I was like,
oh, it's so interesting. But that's probably somebody that was into that kind of a thing. And now
there's just names to stuff, right? It's just, it's like, it's kind of like, oh, that's been out there.
People have been into that. And now they're calling it that kind of a thing, you know?
Oh, yeah. All the philias and stuff. Yeah. The big one I found out recently is somnophilia,
which is an attraction to sleeping people.
Oh, yeah.
And that can follow under CNC stuff,
which is consensual non-consent
where things they're talked about beforehand
and given explicit consent.
Right, but it's a non-consensual act
that's given consent.
I mean, that's really what it's about.
It's like kidnapping, you know, that kind of stuff.
I had a guy once, hold up,
and this is what you're just talking about,
the sleeping thing, but it was like a sleepy foot feet thing
that he had.
He had a foot fetish,
but he needed the person to be a sleep.
sleep and he'd like go after their feet when they you know it was like a sleepy feet thing and it was just so
I remember being so interesting but it's a little non-consensual I feel like I forget the details about it
you know many many years ago you know times have changed in in one sense times are like oh things are
so much more open and so much more is accepted and I love all the labels and all the things and
and the expressions that people can have and you know all that is great but in another sense it's a
little bit more closed off in that, you know, you can't say this or you can't do that, you know,
like I would have someone on that did a sleepy fee thing, but I don't think I'd have that on now because
it's not consensual and you just cannot discuss stuff like that. You know what I mean? It's just like
things were more lax. Like a lot of people did a lot of shit that like nowadays your generation
would not put up with, but we did. You know what I mean? It's like fucked up. So it's like more
open but more clothes and in the right ways. I mean, I think it's more correct now than it was when I was
growing up, you know, probably sleepy feet episode was, is not cool to have because he was like,
you know, molesting people's feet while they're sleeping.
It definitely can be, especially if it hasn't been like discussed beforehand.
Yeah, no, that's what, right, and that's the whole, that's why I love these kinds of terms and
stuff that's out that I had never heard about, but that's like, that's the consent, non-consent.
It's fine if that's what you want to do, but it has to be mocked up and consensual.
Like, I'm going to pretend I'm asleep.
and you're going to fuck me.
You know what I mean?
And I'm going to wake up and you're like taking advantage of me.
Like that's all fine if that's all consensual.
But when you're doing it without the other person knowing, well, now we're talking about something wrong.
But anyway, listen, Tundra.
Is that what we're calling you?
Am I talking to Tundra today?
Yes.
Yeah.
So listen, you got to send me all those pecks from my Patreon.
I'm going to, you know, for calling in, I will give you free access to my Patreon for like a month.
So you can see people's comments and I'll give you free access to my Discord.
I'll probably have to start a whole furry.
channel because I have so many channels and then everyone's like give me a channel for this,
give me a channel for that.
You know, it's like in specific places for people to do things.
But you could go into my Discord and talk to people and find your place in there.
You know, maybe we need a furry channel.
But I'll send you those links.
But do me a favor and get me your picture sooner than later so I have them for when your
episode airs because I'm curious to see that stuff.
I think it'll help the episode, right, to really be able to visualize like those outfits
and stuff that you make.
But thank you so much.
Yeah, no, I've got plenty of thin.
All right. Awesome. Thank you so much for calling in. This was super interesting. Like I said, it's very hard to give me something that I had never heard of before. And I'm actually like a very naturally curious person, obviously. That's why I do my show. So it was interesting to talk to you. Thanks so much for calling in. It was very lovely to talk to you as well. Thank you. It'll be up soon. So I'll send you an email when it goes up. Okay. Perfect. Thank you. Thanks. Bye.
Bye.
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