Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1100 - Beverly is Into Adult Breastfeeding AND She’s Having a Secret Affair with A Guy Online

Episode Date: April 28, 2025

Beverly is into adult breastfeeding and she’s having an affair with a guy online and she called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how and when she got into “adult ...breast feeding, when she brought it up to her husband and how he felt about it, the problems the hardcore process she had to go through to get milk in her breasts again, how he had to learn how to “latch on” and what that entailed, how long it took before she started producing milk, what went down when she first started breast feeding her husband, how often she now breast feeds her husband, what she has to do to continue to lactate, the adult breast feeding group she joined and what the people online would do with each other, the guy she met in the group and how their “relationship” started, the guy’s marriage and why he was secretly on the site to begin with, why she was online looking for connections with strangers instead of looking for it from her husband, how and why their online connection turned sexual and then emotional and the the naughty thinks they do together, the things her husband complains to her about what’s lacking for him, the things she’s tried to bring them closer and why they haven’t worked, how getting her needs met from someone else makes her feel about not getting them met from her husband plus a whole other more. **To see HOT, anonymous pics of BEVERLY plus see HOT pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠ To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com⁠ or go to ⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ For 20% off your Butter Wellness perineum massager use code STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2508-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use code anonymous to get an additional 10% off the campaign’s current discount - that’s 60% off ⁠https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv⁠ ⁠Get $10 off Shameless Care’s female viagra cream, just click on the link and use code: Strictly Follow me! Instagram ⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠ Twitter ⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠ Website: ⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠ Everything else ⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:04:34 One part is the fact that she got very into adult breastfeeding with her husband. She breastfeeds him twice a day, every day, okay, for like a year and a half. And she talks about how she got into it, how it started, how she got milk in her breast, how her husband felt about it, and what exactly goes down and all that kind of good stuff. And then we talk about the fact that she actually is having an online affair, a very hardcore one. I mean, she's definitely really into this guy that she met on a adult breastfeeding forum, right, at a certain point in her breastfeeding story. She goes into this community,
Starting point is 00:05:12 starts innocently chatting with people and winds up in a full-fledged affair with a guy. Now, she has not met him in person, but they're very naughty with each other. And she talks about how naughty they are, how much she likes him. And when then we discuss that whole online affair, the next half hour.
Starting point is 00:05:28 It's such an interesting story. It's sort of like the cheating thing is so relatable. When you hear about her issues she's having with her husband, I think you'll relate to her. Some people will relate to her. Some people relate to her husband. Other people will relate to the guy she's cheating with because he's married and a sexless marriage himself. And there's a lot of shit going down.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Like I said before, both parts of her story are so fascinating. You're going to love this episode. People are going to make a lot of comments to it, I think. But I'm going to get right to it. And Beverly send me in Pecks. I have them over on my Patreon anonymous Pecks of Beverly over there. She'll also be on my Discord. But anyway, I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Beverly.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Hey, Beverly. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. How are you today? Thank you. I'm good. How are you? I'm good. So, Beverly, you're calling in to talk about your adult breastfeeding and your
Starting point is 00:06:18 cheating, online cheating. It's online cheating and breastfeeding. I'm like, it's kind of rhymes, and I kind of like it. Yeah, it's interesting. Very interesting. I once had a woman on. Now, she had this whole other backstory where she, like, worked at a swingers club, and that was, like, really interesting.
Starting point is 00:06:35 But then she had this whole other thing where she talked about how she was very into like lactating. She had a lactating fetish, which I think is different than what you're talking about, but maybe the same thing I don't know. And she like never even had a baby. She was like doing hormones to start lactating and stuff. And I got to tell you, a lot of people I found out were into this fetish. But just real quick, when you say adult breastfeeding, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:06:54 Like, do you actually have milk coming out? Do you need it? Or you're just like, like guys to suck on your tits or something I don't even know what you mean by that. So there's a couple ways that you can go about it. Yeah. Some people have what they call like dry nursing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:07 So they will do the act of breastfeeding without milk or you can add milk to it, which would be more like the wet nursing part. I do have milk. Oh, so you're like, so like that lactation, like the woman who had like did was into lactating and lactation. It's the same thing, right? You're talking about the same thing, correct? I mean, I think so. I haven't heard the episode, but I mean, it sounds very similar, yes. Yeah, because you, you'd want to lactate in someone's mouth, right?
Starting point is 00:07:33 Same shit. You're best feeding. Correct. It's all about that. Oh, my God. Okay. So where do we go first with you? Let's get your story of where, like, let me just get a snapshot of where you're at right now,
Starting point is 00:07:43 Beverly. You're married? Where in that right now? Yes, I'm married. I've been married for a very, very long time. And I essentially, I breastfeed my husband multiple times a day. Oh, my God. And you can't make the shit up.
Starting point is 00:07:57 You can't. And I met a guy on like the breastfeeding platforms. They have places where you can go and talk to people and meet people. and all of that. So I met somebody on there that I have formed an online relationship with. I've never met him. Yeah, I got it. But you're sneaking around sort of like having like online sex and shit, like without your husband knowing. Is that why you call it an affair? I call it an affair because I feel like it's very emotional. I feel like I'm very emotionally connected to this man. Okay, but let's get into like you're and your husband's relationship. You've been married a long time. When did breastfeeding him come into play? and how?
Starting point is 00:08:37 Because I've never heard. Yeah. So it was almost, this summer it'll be two years ago. Okay. That we, that I had, I don't even remember
Starting point is 00:08:45 specifically how I stumbled upon it, but it was, I, pretty positive it had to do with some porn that I was watching. Okay. And it, I somehow stumbled upon a couple
Starting point is 00:08:57 that do it to be closer to each other. And at the time, my husband and I were going through lots of shit, right? Oh, okay. And I,
Starting point is 00:09:06 I was like, okay, well, you know, how can we make this work? What can we do? How can we bring like the spark back great? And so I was like, I came across this and I did some research and I did all the educational stuff about it to try to see what kind of stuff that would take. So that probably took me, I don't know, a good six months or so to even bring it up to him. Yeah, it's interesting that you were the one. Yeah, to me, it's interesting that you were the one that stumbled upon this.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Listen, we all stumble upon things when we're Googling for porn, right? to what. I get how that could happen, right? All of a sudden you, now, could I ask you a quick question. Were you always someone that's like your nipples and your breasts are like a big part of sex for you? Like you could get, you get really turned on by it? You know, actually, no. I was the complete opposite. Really? My breasts were basically for my babies and like when he would mess with them or anything like that during sex, like it really wasn't that big of a deal for me. Oh, like after you had babies. Yeah, but now that I'm lactating again, It's game on.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Yeah, but so when you were like going down that rabbit hole by accident one day, you come across this video and it was like a woman breastfeeding a guy or something, like they were playing that kind of role play together. Yes. And you got like horny for it for some reason. Oh, absolutely. Interesting. And so how do you bring it up? So, yeah, it took me a while to even bring it up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:26 And I mean, I would kind of drop subtle hints every once a while about it. Like what would you say? And like, oh my God, if you keep doing this, going to make milk come out or whatever. Oh. You know, like when he was like, stuck on my teeth during sex or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:41 And he would just kind of give him and laugh or whatever. And then I think I just made so many jokes about it. He made a comment that he's like, would you like that? Do you want to do that? My God. This is what I've learned. Well, listen, you're like, it worked what you were doing, dropping those little hints. He eventually got it.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Good for him. Yeah, absolutely. Real quick, but I remember exactly where we're at with this breastfeeding. Okay, I'm going to get right back to it. But real quick, could you just tell me, like, what were the issues you guys were having? Was it just in the bedroom or were they problems that you were having that were also outside in the bedroom? I would say both, you know, because we were raising kids and so everything was always about
Starting point is 00:11:23 the kids, right? Like, our relationship and everything that we did together came after all of the kids. and so that kind of transferred into the bedroom to where, like, my hormones were jacked. I didn't feel like having sex. Like, it was a rough time for there for a while. Yeah, I think it's very common. Yeah. Some of my favorite relationships for my friends are the ones who never had kids.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Right, yeah, because you don't go through all the hormone stuff and the changes and, you know, the sleepless nights and having to take care of the kids. And it just takes a toll on a marriage, and they don't tell you that. Yeah, it gives it a whole different feel. It gives it a whole different feel, too. There's a whole different purpose. It's a different kind of a thing. And I don't say one is better than the other. I just find that like the couples that never had kids, they don't deal with any of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:09 But a lot of people that do go through this time and it can be a very difficult thing, especially because it sounds like getting more than one, right? Like, how many kids did you have in a row? I have four. Yeah. That's a lot of fucking kids. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:23 So it was a lot of time dedicated to them. And, you know, after a while, you kind of just forget who you are. Totally. I had one. I could tell you Beverly every night. I was like, thank God I'm not fucking Beverly. Okay. Like I was like, thank God at the end of the night because I was a single mom and I had a baby
Starting point is 00:12:38 on my own. I was like, thank God. I don't have to blow some guy now at the end of my day because your brain is like sizzled after you're with an infant all day, right? You know what I mean? I know that feeling and I didn't have to tend to anyone. I don't know how you women did it or do it, right? And tend to your guy at the end.
Starting point is 00:12:53 And that person doesn't he tending to. It's a lot of fucking work. So I give you credit and you have four of them plus your husband, who's another or baby who you have to tend to? Pretty much. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:04 So you're like, yeah, it's hard. It's hard. Okay, so you guys are like having these issues. You decide to like spark things up with this. You're bringing up. He finally gets the hint, right? Now you at this point had Google that it's going to take a while for you to get milk and stuff already.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Were you trying to, were you already doing the things that you needed to do to get the milk? Or had you not started until your husband was on board? I had not. Okay. No, I waited until he was on board as well. Okay. Because then I didn't know how I would explain that one. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Okay, so he starts bringing it up like, would you want to and stuff? And then what happens after that? Yeah, I just kind of explained to him what I had learned, all the education that I had learned from it, what the steps would be and what that would look like and the dedication and, you know, that it's not easy. And sometimes it doesn't happen for some people. Yeah. And he was okay with giving it a go.
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Starting point is 00:15:41 order. Yeah, I just kind of explained to him what I had learned, all the education that I had learned from it, what the steps would be and what that would look like, and the dedication and, you know, that it's not easy, and sometimes it doesn't happen for some people. Yeah. And he was okay with giving it a go. I mean, he honestly didn't think it would work.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Right. And was he turned on by it or was he just like down to try something now? Well, I think he was turned on by it. Yeah. I mean, you know, guys are boring. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I could definitely tell that, you know, he enjoyed spending time at my breast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Okay. So now explain the process of what you have to do to get milk into your breast when you're not pregnant. Okay. So I think it's different for everybody. Like I said, I've read a lot of information and everybody kind of works different. But it just sometimes it depends on how long you've been since you were breastfeeding before. Oh, interesting. Okay. So I'm talking, right. Yeah. So if it's only been a couple years, you'll get there faster. If it's been, you know, a decade or more like it was for me, it takes a lot longer to bring in the milk. Yeah, obviously. Right? So you literally have to pump or suck or exercise. express somehow like with their hands or whatever every two hours but don't you also have to take medication to fuck up with your hormones you don't have to know you don't you don't have to no and that if you decide not to that also will extend sometimes how long it will take well you know what maybe it was the reason why the other woman the other woman did take stuff but i think it's because she had never been pregnant
Starting point is 00:17:23 she had no kid she was a younger woman maybe if you've never had kids and you never had lactated, you have to do that? I think it depends on the person. I really do. I think our breasts are meant to feed kids or no kids, you know, because there are people that breastfeed adopted babies all the time. Right, you're right. Yeah. You can go through those steps. So you don't have to be pregnant to produce milk because that's what their intentions are for. Right. You just have to get your mind in the mindset that this is what they need to be doing right now. Wow. Interesting. Okay, so you had Googled. You knew exactly what you needed to do.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And then how did you get on it? He just, after our conversation, he says, okay, buy a pump. So I ran out to the store the next day. And, of course, you know, I just got started. And then the part that was the hardest, I think, was teaching him how to latch correctly. Well, and right. Like, what does that mean latch correctly? Like, he doesn't just suck on it?
Starting point is 00:18:24 No. Yeah. No, it's not like you're just sucking through a straw, essentially. Like, there's a technique. to it. And if it's not done correctly, your kitty's hurt. I don't know if I can say that word, but they hurt. Yes, you can. You can say any words here. Thank God. So, yeah, I mean, so we had to do trial and error on how he needs to properly, basically latch on. And it's essentially the same as when you latch on a baby. Well, how the baby latches on, but because we don't remember being
Starting point is 00:18:51 babies. Like, what is that, what is it, how do they have to, how do they latch on? Can you explain it? Okay. I can try. So, again, I, I'm like a good. Google Queen, right? Me too. So the best explanation I was able to find to try to explain to my husband was that if you think about sucking a milkshake through a straw. So your tongue kind of forms around the straw and you almost got to like really give a deep suck to it.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Otherwise you can't get the milkshake. Oh, that makes sense. Right. Big difference, though, if you're drinking water out of a straw or milkshake. So that's how that's like that. Yeah. It comes right through. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Yeah. So the best thing I could think is like it says like a thick milkshake. Mm-hmm. Interesting. And so, and then you have to get the nipple all the way in the mouth. And then you have to get it back towards basically, it's like that soft palate. You know, if you fill back in the rest of your mouth, that's where you want the nipple to go. And then they've got to get that tongue action to basically get the milk to come out.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Wow. And did he figure out how to latch on right away? Eventually, not right away. No, it took a long time. Really? When you say long time, do you mean, like, like, like three days or do you mean three months? No, I mean like months.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Months. Interesting. Okay, but once he figured. It was hard for me too because I couldn't remember how my baby's watched on. Of course. Right. So I'm like, that's still right. I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:20:13 So I also had to educate myself on how it was supposed to feel for me to try to instruct him whether he was right or wrong. Right. Now, during that time while he was doing that, was he hurting you or were you like turned on by the process? I mean, I was turned on a lot. But, you know, after multiple times during the day, I mean, yeah, my nipples started to hurt. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:20:34 But then, well, let me ask you this. Once he started to learn, once he figured out how to latch on properly, was it like they said, like there was no pain for from it? No, yeah, it doesn't hurt anymore at all. Interesting. Just by the way they latch on. And babies know how to do this. Isn't nature amazing? Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:51 They're so smart. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. So he gets, let's get to the point where he latches on. Now, once he knows how to lack on, how long does he have to suck for? before your breast start to fill up with milk?
Starting point is 00:21:03 So I want to say, I was trying to remember back to how long it took me. I want to say it took me probably three months before I started seeing drops of milk. Wow. Okay. And is that daily a couple times a week when you remember? Like how much work for three months? So he was, he was sucking twice a day in the morning and in the evening. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Every day. I would, I would, every day. And then I would pump. every two hours the rest of the time that he wasn't around. This is a lot of work you're doing just to save your relationship. I give you credit. In the beginning, like before my milk came in, I was getting up in the night too. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:21:45 You could have picked an easier kink, I got to tell you. I mean, probably so. So interesting. Once the payoff is there and the connection is there, I mean, it's pretty good kink, really. Yeah, no, I'm so glad I got a great episode out of it. I'm so glad you went down. on this path, Beverly, but I'm just like, you're like a crazy bitch because this is like, going back to like so many women probably who are like, you know, pumping now are like,
Starting point is 00:22:07 who the fuck would do that with when they, they don't have to? You know, that's a lot of work you'd had to do for a long time. It is a ton of work. Absolutely. And like, were you bring, would you work? Do you were you bringing that shit to work and doing it privately? Or were you like at home doing it? So I would only pump at home.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Okay. So when it came to work, I mean, it's harder to be a little bit more. discreet like that. So, I mean, I've heard of women, and I don't know if this was after their milk came in, they would use something called like a tinned unit to try to get their breasts to respond, because you've got to keep the, I mean, you've got to keep the simulation somehow. I don't, I don't know much about that. I didn't really get into that part, but I would just use my hands. Yeah, you know, that woman who was on, she sent me pictures, I have of them on my page, on my Patreon, and she was like, I guess she would do this in her car. And she was literally like in her car, this is the picture.
Starting point is 00:22:58 she has the pumps on her breast. Like she would pump in her car. I was like, yep. So, yeah, I pump whenever I'm in the car if I am by myself. Wow. Interesting. So that's not a rare thing to pump in the car. No.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Okay. So you're pumping, you're producing three months later, you start to get a little milk. Now, is your husband, like, so into it? And are you, like, is there this extra turn on now that, like, milk is coming out of your tities for you? So, I mean, I think for, um, us, the turn on was just the connection of us spending time together and nobody else. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Yeah, it's interesting. You know, we were away from our kids. Like, it was just him and I. So I think that was more of the turn on. We just happened to be doing this in the process. Yeah, like in a weird way, this was the, like, the catalyst, but it really wasn't the reason why you guys got closer because of it. It was more so just because of all the communication, all the time spent and all
Starting point is 00:23:58 of that, right, because of what you were doing? I mean, I think so, yes. I think so. I think it played a big role in it because we were, you know, I had to tell him if he was doing something wrong. I had to tell him if he was doing something right. I mean, we have not been communicating like this for years with the kids, right? So we were actually one-on-one time talking to each other.
Starting point is 00:24:17 No, that's what I hear from people in the lifestyle, too. Same shit, you know? It's like the opposite of what people would think. People say brought their marriage closer because there's so much over-communication that has to happen when you have an open relationship. and that over communication brings you closer because most relationships, especially longer-term ones, especially ones with a lot of kids, you get on like autopilot. And a lot of times people are not talking to each other anymore.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Like you're just talking about the kids, but you know what I mean? But you're not having those kind of close conversations you had in the beginning. But this kind of stuff does bring you closer because you do have to just fucking talk more to each other, which sounds so simple, right? Yeah, people just don't do it. It sounds simple, but the people that are there know how not simple it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why it's such a common problem.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Okay, so now you're doing this breastfeeding and now, like, is he into it when the milk starts coming out? Is he, like, drinking it? Yes. He's swallowing. Like, is that, that's what he does? Yes. Yep. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Really good for you. It is? Oh, yeah. Well, they say that, right? The colostrum? Yes. Yeah. Well, I don't think you get colostrum unless you're pregnant.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Oh, okay. So you don't get that. So what are the benefits? There are benefits to it? Yeah, just like when you're breastfeeding a baby. I mean, there's vitamins and everything in it. I mean, you know, for your immune system and everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:35 That's really good for you. Have you tasted it? I have tasted it. What does it taste like? I mean, I don't even, I've tried to decide what I feel like it tastes like. Yeah. But it's like, it's like coffee creamer, but not so sweet. Interesting, like a thin coffee cream.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Yeah. Like a half and half. that's like diluted. Maybe. I mean, I've never had half and half, but yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Yeah. So something like that. I mean, I think it tastes good. Like I don't, I mean, it's not sour. It's not too sweet.
Starting point is 00:26:06 It's not salt. You know, it's interesting. So yeah, if he doesn't take it in the morning and I have to pump, yeah, I'm drinking it because it's good for you.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Oh, so you'll do the shot just for health reasons. Absolutely. Oh my God. This is so interesting to me. Okay. So your husband and you now, like,
Starting point is 00:26:23 are you still fucking and doing everything else too? Like, does it end with like, does like the breastfeeding thing, is that like the foreplay to your guys like nights now? Sometimes. I mean, we are very consistent with at least once in the morning and once in the evening. We don't always have sex. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:41 With it. I mean, we can or we don't have to. You know, sometimes, you know, if you tell them, you know, on the weekends or whatever and we squeeze in a little, you know, nursing there or whatever, we don't necessarily have sex. But it does induce sex a lot. Right, but you also have to keep it up because that's the only way for you to keep milk in your breasts, right? Correct. Now, did your breast go up in size, like cup size?
Starting point is 00:27:07 Mine didn't. You didn't. So you didn't produce that much that they like blew up like when you were pregnant? No, no, no, no, no. No, it's not a ton. I would say, you know, under half an ounce at the moment right now. Wow. Now, how long have you been lactating and been having like milk in there and keeping this up for how long?
Starting point is 00:27:26 we're coming up on almost a year and a half. Wow, that's a lot of fucking suck it on your tits and work and all of this stuff and pumping. Do you still have to pump, by the way? If he doesn't, then yes. Otherwise, you know, your supply, just like with a baby. If you don't hear it, your supply's going to drop. Yeah. But the more you do it, the more supply that you get.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Right. So if he sucks you off like at the beginning of the day and end like that, you're good to go and you don't have to pump? Yeah. Wow. I mean, you can't. If I wanted to build up my supply, then I would still be doing it every, every couple hours. And I will still, you know, like at lunchtime at work or whatever, you know, I will express them sometimes at work just to, because they will get painful sometimes. Yeah. Do you ever express by accident and you're walking around in the office and everyone's staring at your one tit? Or does that not happen? No, no, no, no. That's never happened to me. Because you're not. You know, I can be around a crying baby. It's not going to, no, no, no, no. But. But, you know, just keep the supply part up because, like I said, it will drop. So, you know, if I do get a chance at lunchtime and stuff like that, I'll either hand express or go out to the vehicle and pump or whatever. Now, let me ask you this, because, listen, I believe very much in a mind-body connection, right?
Starting point is 00:28:41 So somehow you got your body with your mind, I think, and, you know, just physically doing stuff to produce milk and make your body believe it's pregnant to feed a baby. did it wind up like changing your hormones and making you more horny to like when you like or anything or did it put you in like the nesting phase because I know like after I had a baby I was like not horny at all it's like what the fuck happened and so I was like don't worry like that's a nesting phase and that's normal and it was very true you know I think nature does that like did you feel a shift in your body at all because you had like shifted your body to believe that it was like pregnant and nursing I don't know if it has to do with you know, age or whatever it could be, but I mean, I have had baby fever.
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Starting point is 00:31:04 You want to have another fucking baby? I would or I would adopt a baby, absolutely. Yeah, I think it's because you're, I think it's a milk thing. What? Well, my kids are getting older. So eventually they're going to all be out of the house. So it could have something to do with that, too, where, you know, in people. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I think it has to do with this. Okay. But you never know. I mean, I don't know. You had four kids. So obviously you've had baby fever before. I mean, you didn't fucking sell. That's a lot of kids to have.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Right. Yeah. Oh, my God. How old are you, by the way, now? I'm in my 40s. Okay. But you also listen in your 40s, it is also like you're naturally going through perimenopause, right?
Starting point is 00:31:42 A lot of times. Some people, you know, and that is your ovary's last hurrah to get pregnant. So you do, you know, maybe it's a part of that too. I would think there's some sort of weird connection with what you're doing that there would be like a connection shift in you because you're kind of like mind-fucking your body to be in a place where you're not, but now you're kind of are. I would be curious if there's other people out there in my shoes. I mean, because a lot of people, it's not something that you really talk about, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:09 But I'd be curious to know if anybody else listening has had that experience as well as far as the babies and stuff go. I'm curious. Yeah, well, let's talk about that. Well, let's talk about the community that you did belong. to, okay, you didn't get on with the women that are doing this, but you got on a community where like you're, where it's like the fetish community, right, of like this breastfeeding thing, correct? Like, and how did that come into play?
Starting point is 00:32:32 And did your husband know that you went on there or did you both go on or is this a secret thing? So I found it just by Googling. Right. And I kind of mentioned that, you know, there are other people out there that I've talked to. But I haven't specifically said, hey, I'm on this. community and there's all these people and, you know, so he doesn't really know that bad extent of it, but he does know that I've talked to, you know, like-minded people about it.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Well, what was the community, first of all? What's the name of the community? It's A-B-F Haven. Okay. And did you want to go on there just to, like, sort of secretly just read other people's experiences or were you looking to connect with other like-minded people? I was, well, I wouldn't have minded connected with, like, other girls and what they're going through and how they've gotten to where they are. and, you know, is there something else I should be doing and things like that? So, yeah, I did a lot of reading and, you know, education, if you will, about it,
Starting point is 00:33:28 because they post all kinds of stuff in there. Yeah. You know, you could go from, yeah, for me, it was just the education aspect. But, yeah, you can go on there and meet people in your towns and stuff like that, too, where there's, like, get-togethers and all kinds of stuff on there. Okay, and so, but so you're on there, you're just, like, becoming educated and stuff. You're not looking at a hook up with a guy or anything. No.
Starting point is 00:33:50 But all of a sudden you start talking to people? Like, how did you wind up with this guy, but start at like the beginning? How did I wind up with this guy? Okay. Like, how did you start? Did you first start talking to people? Or you went on a forum? Did you make a post?
Starting point is 00:34:04 Yeah, I just randomly. So on the website itself is like a chat box. Right. So you can just chat all day with all kinds of different people. Mm-hmm. And so I would just jump on there once a while when I saw people's names that I recognized and we would just kind of just have daily chats about literally nothing. You know, nothing necessarily sexually, you know, hey, how's the day going, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Were they men or women? Were those people men or women? Both. Okay. They were both. Okay. Yes. And so inside the community, we almost like made this smaller community, if you will. Yeah, I got it.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Okay. Have people just randomly making a connection? Yeah. Yeah. And so whenever we were all on there at the same time, we would just have a good time and we would chit-chat. And that's how I kind of started to get to know this gentleman that I talked to. Okay. And so how did you guys start talking?
Starting point is 00:34:57 Like, were the conversations just really like everyday conversations at first? Yeah, most of the time. A lot of us are very flirty people. So we would always joke or make sexual jokes or just kind of flirt around. And he actually was flirting and talking with this other girl in the same group. and they ended up actually meeting up. And you know this because in your group chat, they all discussed this. Is that?
Starting point is 00:35:26 Did they just talk? Yeah. Okay. And they posted pictures and whatever. Oh. And so he was meeting up with this other girl and breastfeeding her. Oh, my God. Did that turn you on in some weird way when you saw the pics?
Starting point is 00:35:40 It didn't. I mean, him and I weren't super close at that time. Okay. you know I was like oh okay that's interesting like whatever I guess teach their own and then once he decided he didn't want to see her anymore he reached he he first I don't really remember why but reached out to me and we just started talking about it about their hookup you know he's yeah okay like how he felt bad how it wasn't you know something that he wanted to do or whatever and I just thought us closer to both together I know it's really weird it's really messed up was he
Starting point is 00:36:15 Was he like trauma bonding with you? Like he was like telling you his issues with the girl, that kind of a thing. And you were like giving him advice? Yeah, pretty much. And what was his, he's like, oh, I really didn't want to do that. It's just full of shit. I mean, I don't know. I think he really really didn't want to do it.
Starting point is 00:36:34 But he's almost too nice of a guy to tell somebody knows sometimes. Yeah, but what is he? Okay, let me ask you his story. What's his deal? Does he have a wife at home who's all milked up breastfeeding him? He has a wife. He has kids. No, his wife does not know anything about it.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Okay, so listen, I'm just telling you, a guy who's got a wife at home that knows nothing about the fact that he's got a breastfeeding fetish, he meets some bitch online that's willing to breastfeed him in a car. He's running to that experience, okay? That's not something he didn't want to do. That was probably something he's been waiting his whole life for. I'm sorry, but like, this is what he's jonesing for. He finally had it in real life, but she dumped him, right? Isn't that what happened?
Starting point is 00:37:11 I mean, I don't know the extent of it. you probably have to ask him. Oh, I thought she ended. I thought she ended things. Okay. But I don't know how it all really ended, but I know that he definitely didn't want to see her anymore. Okay. So something happened there.
Starting point is 00:37:26 He didn't want to see her anymore. And so now he's talking to you because you're another woman on there who's got milky breasts. I mean, this is what he's into. And he's like secretly on there as well. Now, at this point that you're talking to this guy, right, and getting deeper into things with him, do you ever think once like, oh, this is like, like, wrong what I'm doing or is it still like innocent at that point that you're not even like
Starting point is 00:37:47 thinking twice about it? So in the beginning I didn't feel any kind of guilt or anything like there was nothing sexual like we were literally just talking about our days. You know how things are going I would check in on his kids or his grandkids or whatever the case may be like I
Starting point is 00:38:02 never in a million years expected to have a connection with anybody like that. It was never my intentions. Yeah, listen that's why I like get cheating stories, like the whole story, because a lot of times, you know, because people could be very judgmental about people who cheat and sometimes like someone who would never think that they would ever cheat, winds up cheating, but it's not like something that they sought out on purpose. You know, sometimes like really crazy shit happens and you wind up in that
Starting point is 00:38:31 position. I'm not saying that it's right, you know, but it happens. And that's what's like why the buildup of how it happened to you is interesting because it's not like you're not on there looking for this. You know, things with your husband are kind of finally changing. I'm wondering though why. Like is your husband just not like a chatty guy? Because like you because like you because I'm wondering why you're like talking to this community more than you're talking to your husband at this point. Yeah. So when we, you know, started this breastfeeding fetish thing of ours and kind of started making those connections.
Starting point is 00:39:02 The sexual part got really good. Yes, we were talking about, you know, things around breastfeeding and, you know, that kind of connection. but as far as like being emotionally connected or talking about like the deep stuff on like the daily yeah we didn't talk about so I was very I don't I don't even know how to say it like I was deprived I feel like of like an emotional connection with somebody no listen what you were saying that was going down in that group like oh just the regular stupid stuff like how was your day blah blah blah that sometimes is the stuff that people in relationships are really missing the most, like honestly, right?
Starting point is 00:39:46 That really innocent shit that, and that's the stuff that goes out the window because it seems like it's so not important. But I think it really is, especially for women. Listen, I think different things are important for the sexes sometimes, right? Like a lot of times, like sex for a man is very important in a way that women will never understand. It's not just sex for sex, right? It's like how they release the fucking stress of their day. Like it's a real emotional thing for them too, you know, whereas for a woman, it's like, how was your day and just talking to her about like regular things could be something that really validates how you feel about her. You know, and a lot of times those are the things that go out
Starting point is 00:40:21 the window. And that's what was going down in that forum for you. That's why you were there instead of with your husband. Yeah. Because you're just not having those everyday conversations. I was with him. But yeah, no, absolutely. It's, yeah. They kind of forget about stuff like that. For sure. I agree. Yeah. So here's this new guy and you're like having all this daily talk with him, right? When does it start to like switch. When he started giving me the attention that I wanted, I guess. I mean, I don't get attention at home. Like literally it's, you know, yes, we're doing our breastfeeding thing and yes, we have
Starting point is 00:40:55 a schedule. But apart from that, sometimes it feels like we're so disconnected. Well, listen, that's why I asked you in the beginning, like, you know, and I would have guessed that the answer was going to be what you gave me. I asked you like, were the problems in your marriage, like strictly in the bedroom or outside? And I knew it was going to be both because you wound up changing your. sex life with your husband, right? But, you know, just changing your sex life didn't change
Starting point is 00:41:18 the rest of those issues that you had, right? And that's why... Absolutely. We're still having those. Absolutely. Right. And that's why this online affair is like fulfilling that little hole in your marriage, right? Right, because I'm getting the sex. It's the, it's the emotional aspect that, you know, I've... Still lacking. Because, yeah, because I've never met this man online. I've never met him. Uh-huh. You know, So I've never physically had an affair ever. Right. But.
Starting point is 00:41:49 You know, so it's, it's just the emotional side of things that, you know, I was not getting. And once he started, you know, once the online guy started, you know, kind of feeding that part for me and, you know, telling me I'm beautiful and telling me he likes these things about me. Like, you know, after years with your husband, you don't get to hear those things anymore. Like, you want to hear you're pretty. You want to hear that you got nice ditties. Like, you want to hear those things from somebody. Listen, this is how a fair start for both men and women. You know, and it's not just someone on a forum.
Starting point is 00:42:18 It could be the person in the office. You know what I mean? Someone starts giving that person a little bit of that kind of attention that they haven't got for a long time at home. And this is how it starts. So that guy starts doing that stuff to you. And then does it turn like sexual like online, like where you're sending him picks and stuff like that?
Starting point is 00:42:36 Like do you cross those lines too with him? He does get pictures very regularly. Yes. Okay. And he even gets videos. And are they all of like pumping and like what are stuff that like a guy like that is into? Okay. So he he does like like if I express with my hands or whatever, he does like those videos.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Or he really appreciates the videos of me masturbating. So it went beyond the breastfeeding. Yes. Okay. Go on. So you will masturbate and just create videos just for him. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:13 yes and he really you know like he'll just like you know just regular picks and this isn't something that we send like literally every day but you know every once in a while you know he'll get like a fun little i call it a little present hey i think you're present yeah it's a video as to me he has asked for videos of my husband and i together i haven't done that yet you will you'll get there just for the fact that you put that yet in the sentence means you're ready you're almost there I mean if you're into that it's fine I don't I mean I don't whatever I don't care which fetish you're into it's not weird for me yeah but okay I'm just gonna say this this is like I'm playing devil's advocate of what people are thinking at home you know because you're like oh what doesn't matter if I send it but like put yourself
Starting point is 00:44:02 in the position of your husband if your husband was like seeing a woman right behind your back even if it's online, and he's sending her videos of you, you, and him. Yeah. Not just him, not just a picture of his, but you, naked, to that other woman. How would you feel? Fucking horrified. I'll answer for you. Honestly, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:25 I'll stop. I'm not going to lie. You would like it? I might be into it, yeah. Yeah. I'm into more stuff than my husband is because he's like very vanilla one. Right. Yeah, but like, listen, you know, but let me just tell you something.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Sometimes, you know, I think sometimes, and I'll, I'm going to talk more about this when we end the call because I think if you put like as much fucking work into getting milk into your breast into your emotional issues with your husband, you could probably solve those too, okay? But you don't put any work there, neither one of you. You're just going and getting your needs met someplace else. So that's never going to get fixed with your husband until you actually go to him and start telling him what your needs are. But, you know, I think, though, that, you know, sometimes people think their partners are so vanilla and everything. But like, like, but how do you fucking know? Like, did you ever ask your husband to, like, oh, I've absolutely asked. Oh, you have.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Okay. So what have you asked him for to do and stuff? So I've asked him where he was at, like, on the female female male side of things. Okay. And he would say that he would, you know, be kind of into the idea. of it, but then he would be like, well, it's not appropriate. I don't want to share you with anybody, let alone a male or female or whoever. Yeah, some guys are like that.
Starting point is 00:45:46 And when we got, when we got married, it was like you and I. Yeah. Okay. So I've asked him about that. And then, you know, I've literally asked, you know, he knows that I read a lot of information. Yeah. So I would bring up things that I would learn, like the cuck aspect. things or you know hot life i mean i don't really know what the big difference is between them because
Starting point is 00:46:11 i don't know i've done very basic information yeah but like just trying to ask him if any of that stuff is anything that he would be into and i've yet to find anything other than the breastfeeding that he would so what does he say about the cock or you guys opening a relationship or having a three-sum it's always a no like i'm not into that yeah it's always you know when we got married it was just you and me he says that even now after all this time he still wants it to just be you and him Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And does he like, does he have like a high sex drive, do you think? Or as his sex drive, like, gone downhill, do you feel like maybe because of his age?
Starting point is 00:46:46 I feel like he tries to keep up with me. Yeah. Well, you're going through perimenopause, most likely, right? And that's a very horny time for a woman, hornier than ever. That's why a lot of times, like older. I was fucking a 25-year-old when I was in my 40s because, you know, that's, I was like, I wanted it five times a night. And guys in their late 40s can't do that.
Starting point is 00:47:06 more or not, you know what I mean? A lot of them can't. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He's usually pretty good for three times a day. Okay, that's a lot. Your husband? Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Okay, so he's super horny, but he's just a monogamous vanilla guy that's just horny for you and has no interest in doing anything because I was like, listen, how vanilla is he that he got into like breastfeeding? And to me, that's so like out there. So far that's the only thing. Yeah. But that was the only thing he's been into. So far that's all I've been able to find that he's been into.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Okay, that's a little bit of a problem. Okay. So now you're like sending all this. naughty stuff with your guy. And now, does he live close to you with this guy? No. Okay. So there's no chance you're ever going to like meet up with.
Starting point is 00:47:46 He's like four or five states away. Right. And now when did you start to realize that you were maybe copping feelings for him? It was a few months ago. Yeah. And how did, like, what was that like? Did you start, did you feel guilty at all? Were you just like just thinking about him all?
Starting point is 00:48:03 Oh, I still feel guilty about it. You do? Absolutely. Yeah. I do. 100%. Right. but at the same time, I'm like if I could just, and I have talked to my husband until I was blue in the face, trying to get him to understand the needs that I need.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Okay. That's important to say and to add because I didn't know if you did, and a lot of times people don't. I just cannot get him, yeah, I just cannot get him to comply with, you know, what I need from him emotionally. I mean, we've gotten there physically for the most part, but, you know, I'm an emotional creature too. like I need those connections and those conversations and, you know, I'd like to be told that I'm beautiful and then, you know, I got a nice ass or nice tips or whatever. Like, I need to hear those things. And when you tell him that, does he say okay and just not do it or does he say, I don't have time? Like, how come he doesn't like, how come he doesn't like receive that and change? It does, it's not that hard. He's, yeah, and he says he's like, well, I do that. Oh, okay. So that's what that's what, how in the, like from his perspective, what he would say is that he does do that for you. Like he feels like, he, he's, like, he's, he's, he feels like, he. He's. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He He's compliments. Yeah. He thinks he does enough, even though I need more than that.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Right. So obviously he's not doing enough for you. That's obviously one of your love languages. And unfortunately sometimes if it's not somebody else's, they can't really fucking understand it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And does he have any issues with you?
Starting point is 00:49:22 Like, is, do you think that he's like, if I was talking to him secretly, like, do you feel like, you know, he could be having an online affair or he's, like, disappointed in your marriage or there's something that's lacking for him as well? like that makes him maybe not so interested in throwing you all those compliments and feeling that emotional for you, too? Like, what would he say do you think? I don't think he would be having any kind of affair because, like I said, he's not interested in sharing me whatsoever. Yeah. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I do think there are things that probably I'm not doing that he needs from me. Yeah. But he has yet to communicate and or I'm kind of in the same way. And I'm like, well, I do that. I do that, but maybe not enough. or to his expectations. Absolutely. I don't doubt that he has the same.
Starting point is 00:50:07 And what are the things that you think he needs from you that you don't give him enough of? Probably my attention, you know, because I still got the kids at home or work or I volunteer for all kinds of stuff. Oh, really? You know, so he would probably want even more attention than what I give him. Well, listen, if you are spread, I'm sorry, if you were spread between four kids, what are the ages? I have a 20, yes. Yeah, okay. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I have a 21-year-old, a 19-year-old, an 18-year-old, and a 16-year-old. Okay. So you got four kids, and you also spread yourself in, like, doing, like, charity work or just, like, volunteering places? Is it because you don't have a job, or is that on top of your job? No, I do have a job, but my job requires a lot of extra help, whether it's meetings or if they need help with setting up events or, you know, You know, I mean, anything that I can do to help to make sure that the community is still able to do the things that they do, they need people to do those. Yeah. So your husband has a lot of alone time.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Or he's also helping. Oh, okay. So he helps with you. Yeah, sometimes, yeah. Okay. Okay. So, listen, like I said, I do believe if you put, like, you're obviously a hard worker, you're dedicated, you know how to make a fucking community. commitment and stick to it because I think like what you went through to get this milk and do all
Starting point is 00:51:40 this stuff like really shows who you are right and I feel like if you put that much work into really focusing on figuring out how to make things better between your husband you could but the problem is like when somebody gets like that need that's missing someplace else like you you're you're even less likely to do what it takes because you're like you're not you're no longer like have that little hole that was there that needed to be filled. So you're less likely to complain to your husband on what you fucking need. Like, does your husband notice any kind of change in you? Like, are you walking a little, like, lighter on your feet?
Starting point is 00:52:14 Or are you a little bit happier because you're getting all this shit from this guy on the side? No, he still thinks I'm a very grumpy person. Oh. He reminds me all the time. Are you grumpy? Yeah. I mean, sometimes, yeah, probably. I mean, just because, you know, he doesn't necessarily meet me the happiest person ever.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Right. But is this guy helping that at all or no? Oh, absolutely. Right. Does it make you, let me ask you this. Like, how does one affect the other? Like, does getting this stuff from your, the guy, make you more resentful that your guy isn't doing it or less? Honestly, more.
Starting point is 00:52:53 More resentful. Because I would be very, yeah, I would be very happy if I'd gotten the things that I need at home because I do love my husband at the end of the day. I don't want to hurt anybody. and I have needs that needs fulfilled and I get so frustrated that he's not doing it. He's not listening. Yeah, but does he tell you anything? I know that you said you assume that he doesn't think that you give him enough attention either. Like, has he said that to you?
Starting point is 00:53:22 Yes, yeah, he has. He has. Not recently, but he has. Right. And what was his gripes typically like to you? Like, you don't, you're not around enough? What specifically does he say? No, that I pay more attention.
Starting point is 00:53:32 of the kids than him. It's probably true. Unfortunately, I don't know how, I mean, do women like, I don't have a husband. I just have a kid and I know how I feel about my kid. And I'm like, I don't think you could ever love your husband as much as you love your kids. Do you? Right. No.
Starting point is 00:53:48 It's a different kind of a thing, right? And if you had times it by four, I can't even imagine, you know. Yeah, no, I will do anything for my kids and, you know, at any time that he goes against what, like, I feel like my kids need or say, like, then it's constantly. is an argument between us because I will battle for my kids. I will come after you. Yeah, I think one of I, you know, I really realize this once I had my baby. I think like one of the most important things that people before they get married and hitched should discuss is like what their feelings are or surrounding their kids, like how they want to fucking raise them.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Because you don't realize until you had kids, how strongly you will feel about what you want to do with them. It's like how you feel about politics and religion. Like it, it's like you would go to bat for what you believe in when it comes to your family. fucking kids. And I think that creates big problems and relationships. And a lot of times that's not the stuff that people discuss before they have kids, you know? Right. Right. It's like you said, you would do anything for your fucking kid. And if he's not down, like you'll, that could be a big fucking argument. I get it. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. Well, okay. So have you guys ever been in therapy? Did I ask that question yet? You did not, but no, we have not. Okay. Would you ever consider
Starting point is 00:54:59 it? Because listen, you feel guilty. Okay. That's, always like a sign that like some part of you is aware that what you're doing isn't right and that maybe that part of you doesn't want to do it anymore, you know, and that's like the, that part of you it maybe would really benefit from going to therapy and, you know, working on stuff with your husband so you don't have to do this because like, what would happen do you think if your husband found out? Because you got like, I don't know how smart you are with all your shit, but you're like taking videos, you're like chatting, you know, you might be one click away from being caught. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:55:37 I think about that every day. Yeah. Yeah, you shouldn't think about it every day. You're the type person that gets caught. It's like, I always say this. I'm sorry to say this, but it's fucking true. It's very true. You know, the person who cheats that feels zero guilt about it, like rarely gets caught.
Starting point is 00:55:52 They don't fucking care. They're never thinking about it. They do it all their life. They die a cheater. No one never finds out end a story. But the ones who feel guilty about it are the ones that. I get busted. And I do believe it's kind of like that person at work that's walking around talking about like how much they hate their job all the time and then they wind up getting
Starting point is 00:56:07 fired. It's like, be careful what you think. You know what I mean? Because sometimes it's like, it's kind of like a sabotage. You know, if some part of you feels guilty, that part of you will subconsciously like make you get caught so you could stop feeling guilty. Do you understand? Like that's where that guilt can be dangerous. That's where that thinking every day, oh my God, I'm going to get fucking caught is going to get you. you get caught because some part of you is like thinking it. You're putting it out all the fucking time. It's the reason why a scumbag could never be caught and someone like you will be.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Do you know what I mean? And you don't want to get caught. Yeah. What do you think would happen if your husband found out? I don't know. I've thought about that. And I mean, part of me wants to be like, well, either he'll just get on board and appreciate that I'm still here or, I mean, I can finally go find somebody that will
Starting point is 00:56:58 do the things that I need done. Yeah, well listen, unfortunately, you're not caught yet, but sometimes, because I have a lot of cheater stories on my show, and, you know, sometimes it is the catalyst of, you know, someone getting caught becomes like a catalyst for things completely changing and becoming much better in the relationship or the opposite, right? Like, it could go either way, right? Like you said. Yeah. Like, in your case, you know, there is something for that, like, the fact that you never like fuck this guy yet or anything like might help your cause of him staying. I mean, you do have four cases. You know, kids. You've been with each other since forever, right? I don't personally think, I don't look down on
Starting point is 00:57:35 people who stay in relationships, like, as long as yours with kids after a partner cheats. I don't know why people think, oh, you have to throw everything out because of it. I think it's great if people could work through it. I understand why some people can and why some people walk away. I don't know that I could ever get past somebody cheating on me because I have, like, trust issues. But like, I don't look down on people that do. And I think, you know, when you have four kids and you have everything that you have. Like, why throw it all out because of this one thing? Why not work on the reason why this one thing happened and then fix it?
Starting point is 00:58:06 Because at the end of the day, it's not really like this guy that you like. You love your husband, right? It's just like what he's giving you. It's right. You know what I mean? It's really not about him. You never even fucking met him, you know? So to lose your husband for him would be such a fucking waste because he's like a,
Starting point is 00:58:23 he's like a nothing. But he just is giving you something that you wish you could get for your husband. yeah what do you plan to do what was that what do you plan to do i have no idea i mean i really like this guy that i'm talking to i can't i get it i get it it's exciting to him what yeah yeah i can't imagine not talking to him every day yeah i get it i mean like and when when he's busy working or whatever like i miss him when i can't talk to him it's weird no it's listen that's why you call it an affair. That's how you feel when you really like somebody. And like that kind of feeling for a married person is something that they haven't felt for a really long time, right? So that's always
Starting point is 00:59:07 going to be super exciting for anybody. You know, so you could, you get it. And I get that, you like all that and it feels like so much. And it's so, listen, unfortunately, cheating stuff is so supercharged because of all those reasons. You know, it's not like your everyday regular relationship. It's kind of not real, but it is because it's new and a lot of, like Esther Peril, Have you ever read her stuff all about cheating? Like she talks a lot about how like about why people cheat and stuff. And she goes really deep on it. Because you like to Google.
Starting point is 00:59:38 You should Google it and read. I think you'll really be into it. And I'll turn something. But I do think I worry for you about getting caught. I do think, you know, maybe while you're doing all this with that guy. Because I always, it's like the same, like I'm going to bring the analogy about the person at work. You know, I was a person at work who would walk around. I wish I fucking hate my job.
Starting point is 00:59:58 and then got fired. But like it never happened to me again when I was older because I always realized like when I'm fucking unhappy, like I'm going to walk out with my head high. I'm going to like do the right things that have to be done. So that doesn't happen, you know. And so like at the same time while you're doing this, I think it would be really beneficial if like you got into some counseling maybe or asked your husband to get in some counseling and you at the same time tended to your husband and try to work over there
Starting point is 01:00:23 so that maybe this whole thing could be resolved with your head up high instead of you getting busted because do you really think like, I don't know, like maybe you could go the rest of your life talking to this guy having your husband for three years? I don't know. Like, what do you think's going to happen three years from now? I just think that there's something that's going to happen. Is this, let me ask you a quick question. Is this guy happy in his marriage? Like, what's going on in his marriage? No. No. Okay. Right. He's in a very sexless marriage. He's in a sexless marriage. But his wife never caught him. Like, this is the total secret between you and him. and great right right is he cute i think he's cute is he around your age
Starting point is 01:01:04 yeah he's a little older than i am how far away does he live from you oh like a plane ride okay yeah so like in reality like do you think you'd ever wind up with him or like no in your fantasy in your fantasy is it like oh in your fantasy i do in your fantasy you're like maybe i could leave my husband and be with this guy one day yes yeah that's very honest with you but that's a little that's a little crazy you know because it is it is it's very twisted and fucked up but does he talk to you like that this guy though we are very open and honest with each other and i mean the communication is great and we're very aware that we both have kids and spouses and lives yeah so we've never tried to
Starting point is 01:01:56 you know step on each other's toes anyway yeah No. Right. There's respect that goes both ways. And, you know, if he's got family events, I'm not going to message him. I mean, he needs to be with his family. Right. But at the end of the day, the chances of one of you eventually getting busted, oh my God.
Starting point is 01:02:13 And it's more likely, I don't think, does he feel guilty? Do you know, like how he feels? I've never asked him. Yeah, interesting. But you do, and that's where I worry for you. So do me a favor, Beverly. Try to do, like, some, like, as much as you're seeing this guy and putting your, energy over there and you have all this other shit you're putting energy on. Try to carve out some
Starting point is 01:02:35 time for your husband too, whether and, you know, and start working on that as well so that your situation doesn't change by getting caught and that being the catalyst because I don't know. I sometimes think like somehow these kinds of things eventually like blow up one way or another. You got like two people massively cheating, all online stuff, you know. And a lot of times it's like the weirdest way, but you want a lot of times like people get busted doing stuff like this, especially with the online stuff, you know, because you have like all of it on your phone, your computer. It's like very easy to fuck up. I did a whole audiogram today about how like sloppy cheaters are the worst, like how fucking rude. Like if you're going to cheat on me, at least like do it really well so that I'll never find out. You know what I mean? It's almost rude or people are sloppy. So I hope you're not sloppy, okay? hope you're hiding. That's not really good, okay? Try to be.
Starting point is 01:03:34 I mean, I don't think I am, sloppy. Okay, good. Okay. Be as respectful to your husband and hide that shit as much as possible so you don't get caught. But try to, you know, work on your marriage, the emotional aspect, too, okay? Because that needs some tent. No, but obviously whatever you've been doing hasn't been working.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Okay. So do something else. Like go to fucking counsel. Okay. Whether it's you alone, him with you, and, you know, maybe you need some help figuring out how to change it. Both of you have not figured out how to fix your emotional problems, okay? But probably a therapist could help you and maybe it's the two of you going together. Maybe it's just you alone. Someone can maybe give you the tools and tell you
Starting point is 01:04:13 what to do. But whatever you've been doing to fix it is not correct. It's not working for either of you. No, not at all. Yeah. So go get some help. Google about that as much. Just I'm like, you know, just try to tend to it a little bit too and chip away at that before you get busted. But if you do get busted or wind up with this guy. Who knows? A year from now, I feel like Beverly's calling back in with an update, whether it's you left your husband. You just, I don't know, you know what I mean? Keep me posted, Beverly. And send me picks. Okay, can you send me picks for my Patreon anonymous picks? Sure. Okay. I love your story. Okay. I can't even believe we talked all about this breastfeeding thing. I mean, I don't know which one's more interesting. Both of them are equally as interesting.
Starting point is 01:04:54 I think I gave me 30 minutes to each one, but I was like, I forgot we were talking about breastfeeding. and milk in your titties right now as we're speaking because I got so into your online affair. It's like so interesting to me. But anyway, Beverly, send me in Picks. I'll give you free access to my Patreon so you could talk to people and comment back to them. My cheating stories always get a lot of comments, you know. They're always like kind of loaded and people because listen, so many people could relate to you. Some people are going to be related to your husband, you know, so cheating episodes are always,
Starting point is 01:05:23 a lot of people comment on them. And I'll also give you free access to my Discord so you could get in there too. so I'll send you links. Send me anonymous picks. I will do that. Sooner than later, this episode will be up very soon. And thank you so much for calling it and being honest. So honest. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Thanks, Beverly. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th,
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Starting point is 01:06:16 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total. Erotica book. Think like Penthouse Letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the
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