Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1114 - Mike and his Wife Started Swinging and Things Went Very Wrong?!
Episode Date: May 14, 2025Mike and his wife started swinging and things went very wrong and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how his wife brought up entering into lifestyle, what the...y were looking for at first, how and why they hated the first lifestyle site they went on, the first unicorn they met and what went down when they met up, their first time going to a swingers club and what that experience was all about, the three couples they met and took back to a hotel with them and exactly what went down between all of them, the first time he saw his wife with another guy and how he felt about it, the next couple they met for a full swap and why that swap didn’t go well, the next couple they met and what went down with them, the safe word they had and how his wife didn’t abide by it and how it made him feel, the last couple swapping they took part in and what went wrong, how and when he fond out someone had posted a private, naughty pic of his wife on Reddit, who he thinks did it, what he’s currently doing to figure out plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of MIKE'S WIFE plus pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://butterwellness.com/ For 20% off your Butter Wellness perineum massager use code: STRICTLY https://bluechew.com Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON https://beducate.me/pd2512-anonymous Use code anonymous to get an additional 10% off the campaign’s current discount - that’s 60% off https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv Get $10 off Shameless Care’s female viagra cream, just click on the link and use code: Strictly Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website: http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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description is links to everything that I just talked about. Okay. Today I have
I'm Michael. Michael starts off his story as a swinger who just recently started swinging a couple
years ago with his wife. He talks about all their sort of stories, how they got into it,
their first couple of experiences with unicorns and couple swapping and swinger clubs.
And then he gets into this whole other part of a story, which is a big part of a story.
And that's why it's like a swinger got wrong story is that, you know, somehow while they
were involved in the lifestyle, something happened and somebody got his number.
and a pick of his wife and blasted their shit all over Reddit.
And we spend, you know, the end of this call talking about that whole fucking issue.
He explains how they're on it, how the cops are looking for the IP address, who they think it is.
I try to help them figure out who it is.
His wife's in the know.
She knows now.
They're still swinging, but they do have this little problem.
And it is a warning to people.
You know, don't share everything online until you really know somebody because this person who blasted them out had his number as well as compromising pick of his wife.
You'll get all the details when you listen to the episode.
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But anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Michael.
Hi, Michael.
Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast.
How are you today?
How are you today?
Howdy, Kathy?
You doing good.
doing good so listen Michael you and your wife have been in the lifestyle i'm assuming for many years i don't know
you're going to tell me you're a whole journey right how long you guys been swinging for or is it new i don't
know you tell me it's it's new we're going on year two okay great i love like newbie stories right
because it's always interesting that's change over and like what's going on in the first couple of
years so like how long have you guys been married and how long into it did you decide to swing
you know, explain why?
We just hit seven years of marriage and we've been together 10.
And my wife approached me with the idea of us adding a female.
Wow.
Did you know that she was into women?
I didn't.
Mm-hmm.
And I knew, okay, so she has been with a woman before in her 20s, but it was part of,
a previous marriage.
I'm her second husband.
Okay, so they played with girls.
Yes, and only girls.
She had never, never done anything other than, you know, just...
But did she tell you when she told you those stories?
Like, did she dig it? Like, was she into it?
Yeah, I mean, not so much the women, but the taboos out of it.
Yeah, cool. Okay, so she was a little freaky.
Yeah, yeah, knowing that she shouldn't be doing this is kind of what
what drove her.
Okay, cool.
And then so she told you early on,
so you always knew this about your wife,
but how many years into your marriage did she,
five years in,
like two years ago,
she said,
hey,
by the way,
let's bring a girl in.
Yeah.
Okay.
And she asked me what I thought about it,
and I was,
you know,
trying to play coy like,
oh,
I don't know.
And in my head,
I'm like,
are you kidding me?
Listen,
I have heard every now and then you do find a guy that's not into that either,
right?
They exist.
Like,
that's cheating to them.
They don't care if it's a guy
a girl like they're not fucking into it but a lot of guys are like oh my god that's their biggest
fantasy right you had never seen two girls together was this going to be your first time yes okay
cool okay cool so so she tells you it brings it up and you're like yeah for sure like how do you guys
go about finding a female so this is we got on you know a swinger website and it was uh i believe
it's called sLS and it was a complete just tragic
tragedy. I mean, it was, it was, the, the website was just, it just felt dirty.
Interesting. Okay. And it felt like the lowest of class of swingers that we could have found.
Wow. Well, I'm glad you're not talking about SDC, which is the person that, the website that I promote all
the time and I have a good code and people can get a free trial and make sure it's not gross or seedy.
So here's the, here's the transition of that. Yeah.
My wife was listening to your podcast.
Oh, okay.
And she heard you mention SDC, so we immediately swapped to SDC.
Oh, and how do you feel?
Is there a difference?
Oh, tremendous.
Oh, I love that.
I mean, it doesn't even hold a candle.
See, listen, that's the kind of thing that I love.
I'm not on these sites, right?
I'm not a swinger.
So I go by what my callers say.
And I had been hit up by a lot of different sites to promote with them and partner up with
them.
You know, and I chose SDC because it was by far the one I heard the most from people.
And then I started asking people before I started pitching them out right.
I'm not going to pitch garbage to my audience, even with my sponsors.
Like, I really believe in all of them, you know?
And so, you know, I picked SDC because, and I got the real skinny on it from people that
have been in the lifestyle for a long time.
So that's why I felt confident.
But it's always good to know that somebody like you guys, especially because you were on
another saying had such a bad experience that this was better.
So that makes me feel happy to be like SDC.
and just so people know that are listening,
they could get the free trial,
go to the description, there's a link.
So you switch to SDC from SLS,
and that's where you started to see.
That's where you went.
Like, you decided you're going to go on
and pick a stranger for this first threesome.
Yes, yes.
And were you going to get to fuck her?
Like, did you know the details?
Like, what were those initial conversations like?
I think, you know, initially, Kathy,
everything kind of runs through your head.
And you want to set these boundaries.
you want to set this idea and expectations.
And, you know, of course, I was thinking, okay, whatever happens, I'm game for this.
Okay.
If I get to fuck her, that's great.
If I don't, that's great.
I think in the back of my head, I'm like, yeah, I'd love to do this.
But in that moment when it happened, none of this comes to head.
You know, you don't, you're just kind of like, let's watch this.
Let's watch this evolve organically.
So now you go on to SDC and you're looking for a stranger like and, you know, what goes down when you, like who do you wind up settling on and then what happens at that first experience?
So we found a, you know, quote unquote unicorn.
And what I did was I allowed my wife to, you know, carry the conversation through SDC to see, you know, how everything was going, whatnot.
They hit it off.
And we drove a couple hours to meet her.
and so when we got there we all sat down for drinks it was awesome i mean the chemistry was just
it couldn't have been better what did she look like she was a brunette she was probably five
five eight five nine and my wife is five seven and she's a blonde so it was it was kind of the best
of both worlds for me because i prefer a blonde so having a brunette was like something i hadn't had
You know, I've been with my wife for, you know, 10 years.
So this was neat.
And watching them banner on the couch and drinking, I was just in my head, I'm like, when are we going to do this?
You know, at that point, I'm like extremely involved in watching these two and their mannerisms.
So she literally turns us and she was like, are you all ready to go upstairs?
And I was like,
Where are you guys again?
You're in her house?
Where are you?
That you're going upstairs.
We're in a hotel lobby.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
And so we move upstairs.
And it's, you know, this was kind of the newbie jitters.
I didn't want to say much because I didn't want to seem like I was overly excited.
But I did at the same time.
So, you know, I'm kind of like wanting to do this.
I want to see.
all of this at, you know, at once.
But I contained myself and they started making out.
And literally, I mean, naked in seconds.
We walk up to the hotel room.
Very nice hotel.
It's where we go near a swingers club.
So it's about three hours away from us.
And they get undress.
She starts going down on my wife.
And it is fucking amazing.
like nothing I've ever seen, nothing I've ever experienced.
And then everything I wanted to do just dissipated.
I was completely enthralled on watching them.
It did not matter what happened to me.
And then I came over and I started going down on my wife,
while she was going down on our unicorn.
And I got behind her and I was fucking my wife,
doggy style.
as she was going down on the unicorn.
And then it kind of got weird.
So my wife was coming off the bed towards me.
So I walked around the bed and I put my hands,
the unicorns laid on her back.
And I put my hands under the unicorn's arms,
her armpits to kind of pull her towards more the edge
so I could fuck my wife without her coming off the bed.
And she put my dick in her mouth.
and it was the most awkward thing.
Why, she gave butt hat?
No, I could tell that she was not used to having a dick in her mouth.
Was she a lesbian?
Yes.
So we were kind of misled in that.
That kind of popped up in the middle of all of this, which didn't really derail things.
But the conversation after got interested, but interesting between me and my wife.
So because it made it made my wife feel awkward having a female only interested in her.
And under the pretense that we were going to have a threesome, didn't really derail things.
But the conversation after got interested, but interesting between me and my wife.
So because it made it made my wife feel awkward having a,
female only interested in her.
Mm-hmm.
And under the pretense that we were going to have a threesome.
Okay.
So she kind of felt, she kind of felt a lot too.
And the unicorn really didn't divulge how much she was into women.
So we ended that experience.
Yeah.
And so our next night, we were going to the Swingers Club right around the corner.
Have you ever been there before?
Is this a new experience?
This was a new experience for me.
My wife had been there 20 years ago.
Okay.
When she was in her early 20s, when she had her experience with the woman.
Okay.
So now you're deciding to go to a swingers club.
Okay.
And what's going down there?
You're looking for chicks again?
I think it was just, my wife wanted to see how I responded to all of this lifestyle.
Okay.
She wanted to see if I would be okay with men coming up and hitting on her and vice versa.
more so me and how I'd respond to her being hit on than anything.
So we go to the club and it is wide open.
It is, it's awesome.
It's everything I thought it would be.
And I'm loving it.
And she's seeing it on my face.
And so we are, we met a couple there that we immediately liked.
They were really cool.
and we wanted to go play with them in the hotel.
But in the meantime, we had met three other couples.
It was, you know, it was a Saturday night, so it was a couple's night.
And then the Friday night, single men, but all couples here this night.
So we had a, literally, we had a choice of all these couples that we could meet and whatnot.
So we met a lot of great couples, and we had this one picked out.
We're leaving the club.
And two of the other couples that we met, also.
come outside and we can't shake them.
Right. And it's just because we're new and we haven't learned to say no.
We haven't learned to tell people, hey, you know, we don't want to play with you.
So we end up in the hotel with all three couples.
And we brought swingers games to kind of kick off things and whatnot and get it interesting.
Well, my wife wasn't feeling that. Apparently I was moving too slow.
and about 45 minutes into us playing this game,
my wife just gets like, hey, I'm bored.
Pull out your dick, I'm going to suck it.
And so she pulls out my cock and starts sucking it from everybody.
And everything just kind of starts happening.
The couple that we wanted to play with,
they start playing with the other couple,
and me and my wife just start fucking.
And this was when
the first time another man has touched my wife.
Okay.
And he leaned over and he said,
hey,
would you mind if I fingered your wife while she sucked your cock?
And I looked down and I said,
hey, baby, are you okay?
And she was like, yes.
So he started fingering her while she was sucking my cock.
And then his wife started going down on the other wife.
And it was just kind of a kind of a scene
where everybody was just kind of getting to the lay at the land
who was going to be able to do what,
with who. And I could tell
my wife and I really
weren't too excited about it
because we wanted to play
with that other couple. And so
we kind of got up
and we kind of did our own thing
in our part of
the hotel. We had a split hotel,
a split room. So we had a den
and we had a bed. And her and I
were going in there and we're fucking. So we finish
and then we go in there
and we take pictures for the other couples
that were messing around.
and that was the first time I had had another man touched my wife.
And she was very interested in that.
She wanted to see how I would respond to that, which I was fine.
I thought it was hot, very hot, which I didn't think I would respond to like that at all.
Right.
But you were into it.
And your wife was into the guy?
She was into the stimulation of more than one person.
Okay
And that's kind of
That's kind of what excited her
Was having more than one guy touch her
I wouldn't say that she was necessarily
You know
Into the guy but she wasn't not into him
He wasn't a bad looking guy
So that was
That was our first
You know
Encounter with another man
Which was very very slim
Now but are you doing yourself?
Are you hooking up with the women?
Like, you know, let's just.
No, not at all.
So he was touching her.
And then the two other women are going down on, you know, each other.
And the other husband is in the middle of that.
So unless I'm gungby, I can't really get involved in that over there.
Okay, cool.
All right.
So that's that night.
You have your first kind of hook up with a guy.
And how did you like it?
How did you feel about it?
I wanted more.
I wanted to see a guy do more.
Okay. Because, you know, Kathy, that's just, I don't know, to me, it just wasn't that taboo. He touched my wife, big deal. You know what I mean? So I wasn't too like, I don't like this. I wanted to see more. I wanted that. And so we set up another meet with a completely new couple that we met on SDC.
Okay.
And met them.
We drove, you know, a couple hours to meet them at a hotel.
We first went out to dinner and we had drinks.
And we did the whole, you know, hey, look, let's talk about this before we go back up to the hotel to make sure that we want to do this.
And Kathy, I think that we were just so, we were so ready to rip the Band-Aid off.
Right.
We wanted to see how both of us were going to respond to this.
Uh-huh.
this probably wouldn't have been the couple that we chose if we were a little more patient.
Right.
So that's where we are.
We talked about it.
We said, let's do this.
So we went back up to the hotel, and it was a disaster.
It was an absolute nightmare.
And my wife did not want to be in separate rooms.
part of the
part of the interest in this
is for me to see her be pleased
and her to see me be pleased
right
so in the middle of this
the guy's wife
grabs my hand
and leads me out of the room
into the den area
of the hotel
and I'm like hey look
this is not what we talked about
you know my wife already spoke with you
this is you know
this wasn't the agreement
so we went back into the bedroom
where my wife and this man were.
And, you know, they were fucking.
And it was just a very weird bob.
It completely threw off my wife because I left the room and we didn't get to both visually see what we wanted to see.
Okay.
So we would talk that one up as a fail, Kathy.
Right.
Which is normal.
We talked about it.
Yeah.
And we talked about it.
And one of the things that we definitely established Kathy early on was we're going to
to make mistakes and we have to give each other grace.
Right.
Everything is not going to be perfect.
So we looked at this as not our ideal situation.
And it was kind of unfortunate because we really dug the female with this couple.
She was an intellect.
She was sexy.
She carried herself well, but she just didn't follow the portrayal of who she was when she had spoken to my wife.
Right.
And my wife laying out, this is.
how we want things to happen.
So, all right.
So on to the next couple.
We meet this couple and we set up another meet and greet at a hotel.
And we immediately like the way that they handle themselves.
Very cool people.
We have kind of a, we have one under our belt that we've learned from.
So we kind of know how to talk to this couple going into this.
So we have dinner.
We both decide.
let's go up and play and we go into the den area of the hotel room and I just laid it out in line
for him. I said, look, our first swap, our first full swap was not ideal. This is what we want.
This is what we want to see. This is what we want to experience. If y'all are cool with this,
let's get naked. And they were really cool. And they're like, yeah, that's fine. So we got
we got naked
and
Kathy it was wild
it was everything
I wanted to see
everything I wanted to feel
and the guy was
an absolute
machine in bed
and it was hot
as fuck to watch it
right
and it was almost
I know I did
I did enjoy myself
I came four times with her
and
and he never came
with my wife.
And he said it's kind of normal for him not to.
But it was hot.
Right.
You know, I was involved in it, you know, telling her, hey, I want to see you do this.
And she was responsive to it.
And his wife was cool with just sitting there, you know, taking breaks and watching them,
which is, you know, kind of what are, you know, the picture that we painted in our head,
what we wanted to be like.
Right.
Finally,
you're experiencing it.
Yes.
Okay, cool.
So, complete success.
Really cool.
So we set up another meet with them.
We wanted to do it again.
And it kind of went downhill on this one.
And this is where,
you know,
our communication was not good with one another,
me and my wife.
Okay.
So, you know,
when we go into these,
when we go into the situation that we're in,
meeting a couple. We have a word. You know, we have a safe word. One of us says it. Hey, we're pulling
the plug. We're taking a break right then and there. Water break. Right. Okay. So our safe word was thirsty.
Mm-hmm. I'm thirsty. Yes. So I've, you know, I'm fucking his wife and he's fucking mine. And I come for the
second time. And it was, it was a real struggle to come for the second time.
and I'm like, look, I'm thirsty.
Were you really thirsty or was this a safe word?
This was a safe word because we've already been, we already been fucking for
and probably like an hour, an hour and a half.
Right.
So you're sort of trying to say, hey, I'm done with this.
I'm not going to come.
Yes.
Yes.
Politely.
Yeah, of course.
You know, breaking the, breaking the rhythm up.
Yeah.
And so my wife doesn't respond, Kathy.
and I'm like, okay.
Okay.
So I repeat it.
And I'm like, man, I am really thirsty.
I got to get some water.
So I get up and I go get water and she's still not responding.
And I am boiling in my head.
I'm like, okay, this is supposed to be the one thing that we can bank on is us paying attention to each other and our safe word.
Yeah.
So I'm kind of pissed off.
in my head and I leave the room. I get up and I go get water and she's still not responding.
And I am boiling in my head. I'm like, okay, this is supposed to be the one thing that we can bank on is us paying attention to each other and our safe word.
Yeah. So I'm kind of pissed off in my head and I leave the room. And I leave the room. And I'm,
I go downstairs and I'm just like kind of walking around and here comes the wife following me to the front of the hotel and we're talking and whatnot.
And I'm just like trying to figure out how to do this because I don't want to ruin her time, Kathy.
And I think that's like the, I think that's pretty common with new people.
You know, they don't want to be abrasive and they don't know how to approach these situations.
So I'm walking back up to the hotel after her and I talk for a couple minutes.
And I'm not really paying attention to her.
I'm just kind of thinking about how I'm going to pull the plug on this.
So I walk in and I see my wife riding this guy from the bedroom.
And it is pissing me off.
I'm having jealousy thoughts.
And I'm like, you know, what the fuck?
And so eventually like probably like 30 minutes later,
She's picking up on it that I'm not fucking happy.
And so she stops.
She starts getting things together and she's like, hey, are you cool?
I'm far from fucking cool.
Let's get the fuck out of here.
So we get in the car and we talk and she's devastated.
You know, she's devastated that I'm upset, that she didn't pay attention to me, you know, about her safe word.
And I'm kind of pissed off at myself because I'm not giving her.
that grace that I talked about.
You know, like, I'm not giving her the opportunity.
So we come back home, Kathy, and we talk about it.
And then the truth kind of comes out that I was, you know, I was pissed off,
not because she didn't hear me per se,
but because I wasn't fucking anymore.
I wanted to keep fucking, but I couldn't.
I mean, it was an hour and a half in.
I came twice.
and like I told you before
this guy's a machine
they can fuck for hours
and that's what
the jealousy set in
and I was like
you know hey
it was fucking hot
walking back in
and seeing you ride this guy's cock
was probably the hottest thing I've ever seen
and it was
but I was too
consumed by
me not being able
to stay hard
after coming
twice. So we talk about it and we squashed it. I mean, it was that simple. And here's where our journey
kind of takes a major dip. We had just, we just contacted a couple we've been chatting with.
Not on the website. We contacted them through, we use an app to talk to people. So one of our rules,
Kathy, is that we don't play locally. Okay. Just because we don't want to run into any couples that we know.
Yeah, of course. And we have a couple here.
locally that we consider best friends in the lifestyle and they're like our mentors.
So we're chatting with them and all of a sudden my phone starts getting hundreds of text
messages phone call after phone call. My phone's going fucking crazy, Kathy.
So we cut off talking to them for a second so I can figure out what the fuck is going on.
And I check my phone. There's pictures of dicks. There's pictures of people jacking off.
There's videos. There's all this.
kind of stuff.
So I'm like, what in the fuck is going on?
And people keep calling.
And so one guy messages like, hey, is this real?
And I'm like, is what real?
He said, this ad on Reddit.
And I said, send me a photo of what you're talking about.
He sends me a photo.
Somebody had screenshot a nude picture of my wife and put it on Reddit with my phone
number.
My phone number, not hers.
and put cock at it under the photo saying,
tell me how you want to fuck me.
So this guy sends me all this information.
And it has been an absolute nightmare how to figure this out,
because we called Reddit,
which they reacted very quickly, Kathy.
They pulled the ad.
They banned the account.
But we're trying to figure out who this is.
Yeah, of course.
Because there has to be somebody that had your phone number.
You know, how often were you giving your phone number out to people?
Not often at all.
Okay.
So how many people could it be?
What's the list at right now of suspects?
Well, we've, like I said, we're a low traffic couple.
We only full swap twice.
Right.
We've had.
But you had some unicorns, right?
Didn't you have other unicorns besides that first one?
You only went into that one.
Or were there other unicorns?
Yeah, we had two unicorns, two unicorns total.
and so we had a very small list to work with, Kathy.
Okay.
And we called Reddit.
They will not give you any information out.
I called a revenge porn attorney.
And he's like, hey, man, look, if you don't know who it is, you're pretty much shit out of luck.
And he said, but I do want you to call this guy.
So I called, he gave me a cybersecurity expert's phone number.
Mm-hmm.
And I talked to him.
And he said, okay, well, if you don't know who it is, you're pretty much, you know,
you have nowhere to go with this.
Even the cybersecurity guy said the same thing as the other guy?
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, because the cybersecurity guy said that Reddit has a very strong policy with privacy.
And unless you have a subpoena, there's no way you can pull those privacy records of when the account was created, all that jazz.
Right.
Okay.
So fast forward to where the people made a mistake.
They also went on to a website called Angie.
And you go there and you fill out home improvement.
Oh, yeah, I know that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
So they filled out, they created an account.
They used my phone number.
They used a fake email address, which they created.
And then they used my address.
So I called, and I called from contractors left and right, Kathy.
So I called Angie.
How did you know it was the same person?
Because the account.
were created on the same day.
Okay.
How did you know there was an account on Angie?
Like you just like Google your name or something?
Like how did you know that there was something on Angie list too?
Because I received a voicemail from one of the contractors saying,
hey, I'm responding to your request from Angie.com.
Okay, cool.
Okay.
So I called Angie.
They gave me the date that the account was created.
They gave me the email that it was created under.
It was a fake email.
however, I contacted the, when I contacted the police department here locally, they are able to subpoena records from emails that are created under cellular carriers.
So this email was created under a cell phone carrier.
Of course.
So that's where we are right now.
I'm awaiting the subpoena to find out who did this.
Because this has torpedoed my wife's interest in meeting anybody.
Okay, let's try to figure out who the fucking couple is.
Okay, how many couples, can you count on your one hand, how many couples you hooked up with?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
So who do you think it is?
I don't think it's any of the couples we hooked up with.
So what do you, how would someone get your phone number and where did that picture that they posted of your wife come from?
Like, did it come from one of the websites that you were on?
Yeah, yeah.
So it came from SDC, and it was in one of our folders.
So there are layers of photos that are available under SDC.
If your listeners don't understand that, you create an account,
you have to have passwords from, you know,
the people that you meet to view their X-rated pictures.
So that's where our pictures were.
And so we'd obviously given somebody our password to view our pictures.
Now, I fired off a couple of messages to all the couples that we had, we had spoken with, and specifically the couples that we had met with, which is a very small number.
So we're knocking those out real quick.
And none of them did that.
So what we think happened is we think that somebody that they know knows us personally.
and they may have discussed this and then shown them a picture.
So what you're saying is you think that someone that you know, outside of your experiences in the lifestyle,
was also on SDC for their own personal reasons, noticed you guys, knew you guys, obviously,
because they had your phone number, and this guy went in undercover, made contact with you,
got into one of your folders and then took that picture and with your phone number that they had
previously because they knew you and went to town posting it as revenge. Yes. And they posted it in four
forums, four Swinger forums on Reddit. Okay. So it was an explosion of interest, obviously. I mean,
to paint a picture of this, Kathy, my wife is 5'7, 135 pounds, small waist, big ass.
I mean, she is
hot.
Literally a man's dream.
Right.
Okay.
So I wasn't going to tell her, Kathy.
So I was trying to protect
her from this.
And we're sitting down outside on the patio and I was like,
I can't lie to you.
I need to tell you something.
I reached out to Kathy from Strictly Anonymous
and I've got an interview set up with her.
And she was so excited because she listens to all your episodes.
Right.
And I said, however,
we're about to discuss something that I haven't told you.
Somebody stole one of our pictures from SEC and posted it in the public form.
Our face turned white.
I can imagine.
And we worked through it.
You know, and I taught her, hey, look, with all the people that listen to her show,
there may be somebody who's experienced this.
There may be somebody who hasn't experienced this.
so we're going to be helping people nonetheless.
Well, I haven't heard of anyone experiencing this yet.
I'm sure it happens.
I think it happens in the vanilla world a lot with scorned lovers, for sure.
Revenge porn isn't something new.
I get your thoughts on who it could be, but, you know, I think you're probably not thinking of somebody else.
You know, maybe they didn't, you know, have you ever Googled your name in question?
to see if your phone number becomes available because, you know, it could have been somebody that
you were talking to on SDC that had access to your folder that was a total stranger, but you gave
your name to, and then, or your email, and they Googled it, got your phone number, and then
put it out there. Like, have you ever thought of that?
We did.
And my wife.
First Google yourself?
We have, and we didn't come up with much.
And my wife is a very, she has a very public job.
so it wouldn't be hard to track down my wife's information.
But it was your information.
Well, that's why I'm saying it was somebody that probably knew me more intimately
outside of the lifestyle.
Now, I could be way off here, but we sat down and we needed a fresh pair of eyes to look at this.
So we contacted our mentor couple down the street.
And we went over to their house and sat down with them.
And that's the first time.
Who's your mentor couple that lives down the street from you?
You never even brought them up.
Did you fuck them?
Are they one of your couples?
I don't understand.
No, they were our first couple that we met for dinner in the lifestyle, but they lived close.
And we already made that rule that we weren't going to play in our backyard.
But we needed a couple that we could talk to to help us learn and to help us, you know, through the lifestyle.
So there are, you know, literally there are shoulder to lean on.
they are wonderful people
and we went over there, laid all
this out to them, and they were
hot. They've been in the lifestyle
for probably four or five years.
Really fit, really good looking couple
and they were like,
we can't believe anybody did this.
We've never heard of something like this.
And that's when his wife said,
this sounds like a guy.
And the whole time, Kathy,
I'm thinking it's a woman.
Why do you think it was a woman?
I don't know.
because, well, yeah, looking back at the couples that we'd met,
some of the women were very capable of doing something like this
if I felt like they didn't get what they wanted.
And we had run into a couple that, you know, we had met, you know,
back in, you know, the first six months we played that we didn't want to play with.
And we told them and we were able to, you know, voice that in person face to face.
and she threw a fit.
So your list isn't that short.
You have other people that have all your information that you gave out that, you know, things didn't go well.
How do you not think it's that couple?
Well, we did, but we narrowed it down to when the picture was taken.
How did they get checked off your list?
Because we met them in February of 2024, and that picture was not taken until,
April. So we knew it couldn't have been them. Well, when was it posted? Well, I change my passwords
after we don't mesh with a couple. You change your password every time you don't mesh with a couple.
Yes. So I'm pretty methodical on how I set up the SEC profile and how I keep it at bay,
because I have to, like I said, my life is. So that it's only people that had your password when it
went up, right? And that's the list right there. How many people had your password?
So we started working from April until present.
And that's when the list got really short of people that we had met, people that we spoke to.
So we had met three or four couples, Kathy, and we'd spoken to probably three or four.
So, you know, seven, eight people tops had that kind of information.
And I fired off some text messages and basically said, hey, look.
Yeah, you told me that.
So you said that they all got, you all, you believe them all when they got back to you.
What did you think they were going to say, yes, that was me?
Well, the text message was very curt.
You know, I told them, hey, look.
It doesn't matter, even more of a reason for someone to be like, was it me?
I'm going to fucking admit it.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, I mean, hey, I agree.
What kind of detective are you?
I mean, I'm trying to help him here.
I just don't understand your reasoning.
Well, when you're desperate, you're grasping.
You want to know.
I know, but I, listen, you could like, so then the story would be, yeah, I emailed them all and they all denied it, but we, they're still on our list.
You said they emailed us.
They all said no, and so they were taken all, like we believe them.
Like, did you just believe every single answer you got back from these people?
I think partially, Kathy, I think the, the, there's a side of some of these people that they're capable of so we keep them on that list.
But I think it, you know, after more time has gone by, I think it's like you said, there's going to be somebody that we didn't.
think of.
That's going to be the person.
You only gave out a password to a small number of people with that picture.
Only people, like, nobody from your town that you know that, like, you know exactly how many
people had the password at the time when you, when you posted that picture, right?
That picture is only available on there, correct?
Yeah.
Okay.
So it's on that list.
Those are your people.
Yeah.
How else?
We'll see.
Who else?
I don't know.
I can find out who it isn't.
two seconds. I don't know what cut. You're like the worst detective. I mean, you have a bunch of people
that, and you're not doing well. You have these, a bunch of couples. Like, did everybody that had,
you know, and then you say you change the password every other time that things don't work out? I mean,
how many, like, you know, do you know for how long the password was up for them? I'm sure it's,
you know, you're not burning. How many times was the password changed since April? Well, you're not
burning everybody that you talk to, Kathy. You're just burning people that you know you're not
in a mesh well. We could be talking to, you know,
I know, that's why I'm saying. I don't know why you think your list is short,
but how many people did you give access to that folder from April on with all your different
passwords? Probably a lot. You got to think of it like this too. It's the couples that we gave
the password to that have the photo and then the people that they know that we might know in
common that we just haven't spoken to. You think those couples shared the picture? You know,
I don't put anything past anybody.
Okay, but let me ask you this.
You say you changed the password after things don't work out.
That picture has been up since April.
How many people since April saw that picture and you gave your password out to?
Gosh, there's no telling.
50, 30?
Probably.
Yeah, so it's not the couples that you met with that you talked to.
It's probably a rando that you gave it to, those people.
And, you know, how would they get your number?
Like, is there a way for them to find out through your, through there?
Or maybe it was somebody on SDC that saw you knew you, you know, propositioned you and got into your folder, saw your wife and knew her and had your phone number, right?
That's where we're at again, backward to that.
Yeah.
And I like, you know, look, I went down your path.
You know, how many people did we talk to, just talk to on SDC and give our,
Give our passwords.
Yeah, you would have those emails.
Don't you have those emails in your inbox?
Yes, we do.
But that opens up a really long list of people that we've talked to.
But here's where I'm at with that, Kathy.
Not everybody that it didn't work out with was a tragic case of disagreement.
We just didn't like the way they looked.
So we ceased communication.
Okay, so who is the most tragic case of disagreement?
probably the couple that we told that we didn't want to play with and she threw a fit
but that was in February they never had access is what you're saying to that right so they don't
count who out of the people that you had had the worst you know had the worst experience
nobody absolutely nobody look I may not be a great storyteller but we are a likable couple
we're very we're very uh soft of the earth type people we can talk with anybody we can mix
up.
No, listen, somebody that does this kind of a thing. It's not personal. I'm sorry, I don't really
think so. I think people that do shit like this is like, that's what they do. And maybe they're
a little bit more advanced. It doesn't necessarily have to be someone scorned because there is
no one scorned on your list, really, right? So it's obviously maybe another type of profile.
Maybe somebody who does just go on these sites and takes people's pictures and fucks with people.
There's online trolls that have nothing better to do with their lives that do shit like that.
And maybe it's nothing personal to do with you guys.
You don't know.
Yeah.
Well, here's a very good feeling about this is that we did contact SDC and let them know what was going on.
And they're extremely responsive and they're very supportive.
So they're like, hey, look, the second you find out who it is, let us know.
and we'll remove and ban
their account, everything.
So that is one of the, I guess,
silver lining of everything to know that
the website that we are on
is
fully behind. Are you still on there?
Oh, yeah. Okay.
Your wife didn't make you take down all her shit?
Are you still giving out your number? Are you still swinging?
That's going on with the guy's nap.
We are still swinging.
We have pulled down all new photos.
we have photos that have blurred out our face and that's it.
Somebody wants to go further than that.
No problem.
We'll chat with you.
We don't give out our cell phone number.
We strictly stick to a app to communicate.
Y'all want to meet.
Great.
If not.
Great as well.
We just had to be a little bit more, I guess, less naive.
Right.
And I hate that because we've had a lot of fun, Kathy.
We've had so many laps with just circumstances when we met couples and, hey, we'd meet couples at the, we meet swinger couples, Kathy, that we weren't even out of swingers event.
They just knew, you know, and it was really cool.
And, you know, we start talking to them and all of a sudden conversation comes up about it.
And they're like, we're in a lifestyle too.
I was like, what?
So, you know, it's a great community.
and I'd be reluctant to say
that I trust the people in the lifestyle more than I do my vanilla friends.
Yet this happened to you.
So it doesn't, you know.
Even after this bullshit.
Because of the relationship we've, you know,
established with our mentor couple around the corner.
Right.
They would do anything for us.
I mean, anything.
Just a great, just great people.
So that's where we are.
we've, I mean, we're full speed ahead, but we're apprehensive with sending any photos.
It will not happen.
Well, keep me posted and let me know.
Do you think that these people, like the cops are like definitely 100% going to be able to
nail the person that created this, your, you know, profile on Angie's list?
Yes, a short story on that.
The only way that we're going to be able to pinpoint them, Kathy, is if they did it from their
house on their Wi-Fi.
Yeah, of course.
So they are, though, going to, the answer is
they are going to be able to get the IP
address, is what you're saying?
They said they could definitely get the IP address of this.
I went down file charges.
They created the subpoena
and they're sending it off to the carrier
to get the IP address.
Yeah, that's great. Hopefully that's sloppy
move on their part, you know, because
you're saying like the cops couldn't have done it for
Reddit because of what they have in
place as far as privacy concerns. But
Angie's list doesn't have that in place so they could solicit them to get the IP address is what you're saying?
Well, they would never be able to do it as fast because of Reddit's cyber security infrastructure is what the expert.
And Angie's list doesn't have that is what you're saying.
Right.
Right.
So they're able to go.
So they're going to go there to get it.
Well, keep me posted.
I'm dying to know if it winds up who winds up being.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, I don't think, you know, thankfully, listen, I think this could happen to anybody nowadays.
That's why I'm always like, whether you're sending dick pics,
even your boyfriend of 10 years, don't put your fucking face in it.
I'm sorry because you don't know what happens two years from now.
Someone gets pissed.
They could blow your shit up.
And it happens all the time.
I don't think it's just in the lifestyle.
But, you know, even if you are in the lifestyle, especially, you know, you have to be careful.
And I think, you know, you really have to vet people before you're sending shit out.
And I think what's great nowadays is there are other ways of communicating with people than your personal phone.
Like you said, now you just talk through an app.
You're not talking through your cell phone.
Don't give out your personal information until you really know people.
You know, so even if they have your picks, they could put it up there, but they don't have, they don't have your phone number, you know.
Yeah.
Complacency is the killer in a lifestyle.
Right.
I guess.
I don't know.
I mean, it sounds like you were having fun.
Listen, this was just a weird thing that happened.
Sounds like really bad luck.
And, you know, this shit can happen, like I said, across the board in anybody's life.
And it's a little scary.
And you just have to be more selective, I think.
And, you know, before you make contact with any of your real personal information.
So.
No, you're 100%.
Yeah.
Talk through your app.
Talk through that app.
Talk through different places.
Don't, you know, call them from your, get a burner phone or some shit.
I don't know.
I wouldn't attach my real phone to anything like that.
Yeah.
I think Kathy, you hit it on the head.
We were giddy.
We were meeting all kind of good-looking people.
But everyone is this doesn't typically happen.
I just think you, you know, you fell into some bad luck.
But I said it could happen to, you know, a 22-year-old that's dating a guy and he gets pissed at her or vice versa.
And they said, you know, this happens though.
And this can happen in any nowadays with phones, with social media, with everything, with places like credit.
People could blast your shit all out.
You got to be careful regardless of whether you're in the lifestyle or not when you're putting any kind of naked stuff out there.
So keep me posted.
Let me know when you do find out from the cops I'm dying to know.
And thanks so much for calling in.
Since your wife knows that you're calling in, do you want to send in pics for my Patreon, anonymous picks?
Sure.
Yes, send me in hot anonymous picks, no faces.
Don't send me the ones that they put up on Reddit.
Nothing X-rated.
are rated. Thanks so much, Michael, for calling in and sharing your swingers gone wrong story.
Thanks, Kathy. Thank you, Michael. Bye. Bye-bye.
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