Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1115 - Mary and her Husband are Into Hotwifing and MMF Threesomes
Episode Date: May 15, 2025Mary and her husband are into hotwifing and hooking up with other guys and she called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear how and why when they were going through a rough patch her husband confes...sed he was into guys and how that changed things up, how she felt about her husband being into guys she. He first told her and why she was so shocked, how and why they both cheated on each other when they were first married and how they got past it, the convos they had about opening up their marriage before they went out looking for guys, the boundaries and rules they had going in, what they were looking for in a guy and how they met their first guy and what exactly went down including giving him mutual head, how she felt about the hook up afterwards, the next guy they met who she had sex with and exactly what went down with him including “the train,” how she felt about being with another guy in front of her husband and how he felt about it as well, their reconnecting sex and how and why it’s so great, the solo date. She had with a guy and what went down and how her husband felt about it, the swinger party they attended and why it wasn’t that great, her and her husbands hook ups with a crossdresser and how and why she was curious about it, the threesome they had with the crossdresser and exactly what went down, how and why opening up their marriage helped it plus a whole lot more. REPEAT THURSDAY, originally aired 3/2024 **To see pics of MARY and HER HUSBAND plus anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://butterwellness.com/ For 20% off your Butter Wellness perineum massager use code: STRICTLY https://bluechew.com Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON https://beducate.me/pd2512-anonymous Use code anonymous to get an additional 10% off the campaign’s current discount - that’s 60% off https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv Get $10 off Shameless Care’s female viagra cream, just click on the link and use code: Strictly Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website: http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Today I have on Mary.
Mary's like Samantha. Remember Samantha and Sean? Well, Mary and Joe are so similar. I'm trying to hook them up, okay, because they need to hook up. They're still on the same page. Mary is like Samantha married to a very alpha guy. I have pictures of them. They're over my Patreon. He's just as beefy and buff and big and alpha as Sean. That's her husband Joe. I have him taped already. You're going to hear his episode. Today you're going to hear the whole story from Mary's perspective. Mary and Joe married a long time.
went through some tough times in their marriage. There was a time of infidelity. It's kind of
interesting story. You got to hear that. And then they were kind of like at the point in their marriage
where they were on autopilot, kids' careers weren't really having sex that much. Their future
didn't look that great. But during their anniversary, they took a trip and Joe just, you know,
threw something out on the table. And what he told her was that he was open to being with guys.
She explains how that came up in the conversation. And then they started talking about it. And
Mary wasn't close the idea. They did a lot.
lot of talking about the fact that he was into guys and was looking to experience it. They talked about
it for a bunch of months for a long time. And then they decided to go out and start having threesomes
with guys. And they did. And they loved it. They've met many different guys, had many different
experiences. They did a train. She loves doing blowjubs with her guy. She also has been
fucked in front of her guy. He loves it. She loves it as well. She's even seen a guy solo and
then went back and told her guy about it. She gets very detailed about all the experience.
experiences and threesome that they had with guys exactly what went down. And then her guy at some point
met a crossdresser and then they all had a threesome with a crossdresser. We end with that story. It's super
interesting. I mean, uh, I've talked a lot of crossdisters, so I understand how they roll. But to hear
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I'm going to be right back on with Mary.
Hi, Mary.
Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast.
How are you today?
I'm well.
How are you doing?
Good. Now listen, Mary, this is one of the episodes, one of the kind of episodes I love where I talk to a couple, but I get the same story from both sides. I already talk to your husband. I don't know who I'm going to air first. Probably you. But you are married to a guy named Joe. He's bisexual. And there was a certain point in your marriage. You guys have been married a long time where he put that on the table with you. I think you guys were going through a hard time. He kind of copped to that. And it really changed the game. You guys currently have threesome with guys.
he's got a free pass to even go and hook up with guys.
And then I know there's this whole interesting cross-dress or twist at the end.
But let's go all the way back, Mary.
You guys were like a vanilla couple, would you say, married for 20-something years?
Yes, very much so.
Very vanilla.
Married for a lot of years and had kind of your typical ups and downs in our sexual
relationship that wasn't really satisfying.
I don't think to either one of us for a long time.
We were really busy raising kids and with our careers.
And for me, it was just one of those things that kind of fell to the bottom of the priority list because it wasn't something that I really looked forward to or wasn't that exciting.
So it was just, yeah, it was just having sex.
I don't know, maybe once a week, three, four times a month, something like that.
But nothing ever like outside the box.
Yeah.
So do you remember that moment where your husband came to you and told you that he was,
by? Is that like the conversation that started everything?
It really was. We were actually on our 20th anniversary trip. We tried to take a trip at least
an overnight away every year for our anniversary. We were on that trip. And we, we were in a
beautiful place and we had gone to a coffee shop and there was a trans person serving us.
And after we'd gotten our coffee and we left and I remember, I'm pretty sure we were back in
like our our lodge room and he had basically mentioned that that interested him that that was
something that he was kind of curious about and I it kind of caught me off guard I don't really know
where this is going and it was kind of like out of the blue yeah but I'm a pretty like in general
a pretty curious person and I'm not one to I try not to make quick snap judgments I really do
try to take a calmer approach and ask questions. So I was like, well, can you tell me more about that?
And he basically told me that he had interest in guys. He had that basically opened the door.
I asked the question, but he's the one that stepped through the door and basically laid it all for me
and told me that he does have interest in guys, being sexually with guys, and it's something that
he wanted to explore. So it was really huge. And I really, I don't remember.
I wasn't like put off by it.
I was just like, oh, this is pretty cool.
We need to explore this.
We need to talk more about this.
That's interesting that you thought that.
Is it because you weren't happy either like in your sex life and you were thinking maybe this could spice things up?
I don't know.
Like why do you think that it was something that was like kind of intriguing as well?
Because yeah, it felt like something new and different.
Like it could be something that kind of sparked our relationship back up.
And I do remember previous to that.
We had sat and had a pretty serious.
conversation prior to that trip about like we could see ourselves doing that thing that a lot of
couples do is just cohabitating raising children being in our career and just drifting apart
emotionally and just not and being one of those couples after 25 years is like well there's not
really anything left so what are we doing so we'd actually had that conversation so when he brought
up something like that I realized he was obviously entrusted me with this information that he he didn't
think that I was going to be, that I was going to fly off the handle about it or anything. And so it really
did feel like, oh, like we're getting down to something like a little bit deeper than we have
before. Yeah, kind of like now there's maybe a new possibility of your guy's future. Before it didn't
look good, right? You kind of knew where you were going to end up. And all of a sudden, it's kind of
crazy if you think about it, but it's such an interesting lesson for other people that he just
really changed the game by putting something out there, right? It really,
really completely change it. So
we're now like okay because this is I always think it's super important because I'm always
getting calls from guys who are doing shit with guys on the DL and doing stuff behind their
wives' backs and a lot of times there's a lot of stigma around guy and guy action and people
just think oh it means you're gay even though that's not a bad thing but some people
for for some reason people think it's terrible you know or they think you're less of a ban
and stuff I know because I already have your guy's pictures okay and I've seen your guy and I
know he's very alpha too. Like is your guy the type of
a guy that you would have ever thought was into guys? I mean, was it kind of like shocking to you?
Very much so. Yes. It was very shocking to me because, yeah, he is, he is very alpha, a very
manly man, a very stocky, muscular build. He's one of those. He's an extrovert. He takes the
lead on things. He's very outgoing. Just always been a very strong personality. So, no,
not something I would have imagined. Yeah. And what I love, and I don't know if he told you about this other
couple and if you listen to them, but I just had a couple on Samantha and Sean. And you guys are
like soulmates couples. You're very similar to Samantha. He's so similar to Sean. I don't know if
you saw their pictures. It's same kind of thing, big buff dudes, not the type of guy that you would think.
And I think it's important that people know that. I think a lot of times people think, oh, I don't know,
a guy that's into guys. Like I said, is less of a man. Here you have another really super alpha guy
that just happens to be into guys. It doesn't say, it doesn't change the fact of him being a man. But,
but you were surprised, right? Because I think that we all kind of think that on some level without
even knowing it. Yeah, for sure. And through the process, have also come to realize that he's,
he's versed. He's not, he's not one or the other and adverse to the other one. He can go both
ways with it. Yeah. People are going to hear all the details from Joe. So I think that that's like amazing
that he was able to put that on the table.
Like I said before,
I'm typically talking to guys that are doing it on the DL
and probably with no plans to ever cop to it
because of the fear that their wife sitting across
from them would be like, what the fuck.
But like you were open.
I mean, that's just the person that you are, right?
Is that what you said?
Yes, I do try to be an open and curious person
and ask questions before I, you know,
formulate any kind of judgment or response
jumps to it. So yeah, it was, I was really curious in that moment and that initial moment of what
that looked like and kind of what he had been fantasizing about.
It jumped to it. So, yeah, it was, I was really curious in that moment and that initial
moment of what that looked like and kind of what he had been fantasizing about.
Did you worry that he had done something or anything like that?
Was that, were there any questions like that?
I don't remember thinking that. I don't know whether I asked it in the moment or not,
but I don't remember thinking that we had had issues of infidelity early in our marriage that we
overcame, but it was with, like, he had been with other women.
I had been with other men.
Like, we had infidelity on both of our parts.
Oh, I don't know.
Did he tell me that?
I don't remember.
Both of you had cheated.
Was it at the same time because you were going through a rough patch or whatever?
Or did one person cheating and the other person revenge cheated?
No, it wasn't revenge cheating.
It did happen around kind of the same.
same time, timeframes. And it was, it was in that early five to seven years of marriage. You're figuring
things out and you're figuring out that it's a lot harder than you had thought that it would be.
Yeah, yeah. But who found out first? I mean, because it's not, I don't know. Did you both just
cop to it? It's like interesting that you both were cheating and then you both found out. But what,
I just want to hear that story real quick. I just, because it's kind of interesting. He was found out
first. And, and then I honestly, I found out that that he had been cheating.
And I had cheated also, and I didn't count to it at that point until later on.
So it was happening all around that same time.
And then it finally came out later that I had cheated too.
And it was rough.
It was very rough in our early marriage.
But we were, I will give all the credit to Joe.
He was very committed to our relationship.
And even in times when I wanted to give up on it, he wasn't willing to.
And we did, we persevered and worked through it.
Yeah, listen, and I think those kinds of situations, if they don't break you up and you're,
you are able to overcome them, they do bring you closer because you did go through something
together that was really difficult, especially infidelity, especially like for you, I kind of
think it's kind of funny, Mary, like you found out he cheated and you didn't even give him like,
I cheated too, like you didn't give him that. Like he had to find out way later. He must have been
so pissed. Like, come on. You know what I mean? You railed on me for.
cheating and you had fucking cheated too. Yes. And did it come to it? Oh my God. And yeah, you do got to give
him credit for being able to get past that because that's like almost a second betrayal a little bit
because that was the perfect time for you to have said something. I could also see why at that time,
like you had a decision like you could either say, hey, I cheated too or you could just point the finger
at him. But, you know, that's kind of funny and kind of fucked up. But harder for a little bit harder
for him because like I said, that's a second betrayal. And then,
years later, but he was able to get past it, hard times, brought you guys closer together,
and then here you are so many years later, Joe puts it on the table, tells you he's into guys,
and now you're on vacation now. So what's the next move? You asked a lot of questions. He explained
it to you. Did you know if you were into guy on guy action? Had you ever looked at that kind of
porn or anything? I had never watched that kind of porn. I was just intrigued by it, I guess.
after we were on that trip and he told me about that, we had had probably four or five months
of conversation.
And after that, of what that would look like?
What are you interested in?
Where do we find people?
Because honestly, one thing we've learned is it's kind of difficult to find.
It's not the typical.
Most couples are looking for another female.
Not a lot of couples are looking for males.
So we just were very, again, curious and trying to figure out, okay, where do we find?
find people to hook up with. So it was just a lot of conversation and conversation about what are you
specifically, what are you wanting out of, out of these interactions, out of these experiences.
So a lot of discussion of that. And then like I said, it wasn't about, I think, five months after
that that we had actually met with our first guy. So tell me though a little bit about those
conversations. How was it going to look? Like what did you guys decide on and were there any rules
regulations. So yeah, we did talk a lot about boundaries and initially we had decided that
that it was going to be, it was going to be us together with another guy that we wanted to do it
together. We both wanted to experience it. We both wanted to be involved in it. So that was the
initial boundary. The other one was that we wanted to whoever we were, we connected with, we wanted to
both be messaging with. It wasn't like one of us would set it up and message and then the other one
would just show up. It's that we kind of needed to mutually be on the same page of meeting a particular
person. Yeah. And did you find out that you guys had like the same taste in guys? You know, it's kind of you never
know. A little bit. I tend towards kind of like the more like a muscular build like burly kind of I like
the way that I described it to Joe was like I kind of want a guy who can pick me up and throw me
around. Yeah. So that's kind of what what I enjoy. I don't know that that Joe necessarily
has like a particular type we prefer somebody that is more fit so to speak yeah and and that's just
our preference because we try to stay in good shape ourselves so I think we have kind of a similar
taste in men I do prefer somebody that is a little bit taller and again it kind of goes back to
I just kind of want somebody to manhandle me at times right and you're not short yourself so you want
if you're going to be with a guy you want them to be taller than you that makes you feel more
of that five. Yeah, for sure. But okay, so you go on an app, you put up some picks of yourself,
and then you guys go looking for guys. And what are you putting out there? Like, we're a couple
looking for a by guy. That's exactly what we're putting out there. Yeah. And initially, we'd
gotten on like social media groups to find people that way. And we would message people on those
apps. And then we did get on a couple different dating apps for bisexual people and couples. Yeah.
What was that like? Did you have a lot of guys?
emailing you once you put up your ad? It didn't feel like an overwhelming response, to be honest with
you. And I think maybe we were being a little bit picky about who we were trying to connect with as well.
I do remember we messaged with a small handful of guys. Another thing that was important to us,
at least early on, was that we didn't want to be with somebody that was in a relationship or a
marriage that their partner did not know that they were, that they were seeking this out.
that was important to us. That's kind of an added layer of difficulty in finding somebody.
Typically, when we started messaging them, we kind of, we were pretty transparent, and this is
what we're looking for, and here are our boundaries. Do you fit that bill initially? And if they did,
then we started messaging back and forth. We wouldn't give a ton of personal information, but kind of
just let them know what we were looking for, what we were interested in. Here are our boundaries,
which we are not necessarily, we don't want any violence necessarily.
No, we're not into pee or poop play.
We're not into age play either.
That's not typically what we get into.
So we just wanted to make sure because honestly there are a lot of people out there
that seem to be into age play, like wanted to call us daddy or mommy or whatever.
And that's not our thing.
So, yeah, we would kind of lay those things out.
and that would determine whether or not we would continue messaging with that person or not.
And then, yeah, we would pretty quickly, we moved to sharing pictures back and forth,
again, to just see if it was something that everybody was interested in.
And then from there, we would decide, do we really want to meet up?
Do we want to pursue this?
And another kind of, I guess, I don't know whether it's a boundary or not,
but another thing we would do was we would always meet somebody in public.
first and see, make sure that there was, that there was a mutual connection there before we
would do anything else. Yeah, for sure. Now, like that first initial hookup with the first guy,
what was on the table as far as like him with the guy going in? I'm pretty sure everything was on
the table. I don't remember specifically if we had talked about it. It wasn't just that we wanted
oral. It was that we wanted to have sex, like all three of us wanted to have sex together. And the person
that we were with that first time.
He said he was closet by.
And I, after the experience, I was like, I don't think he was closet by.
I really think he's gay and he just doesn't recognize it because he really didn't want to have much to do with me.
He wanted with Joe.
Yeah, yeah, could have been a tell.
So let's talk about that first experience.
So that first one, we had actually, we'd met him because it was the middle of a Thursday or something like that that we,
we met him. And so I think we met him at a restaurant, if I remember correctly. And then it was
close to a hotel that we were planning to go to. So yeah, we sat and we just had, I think, a quick
drink and a little appetizer or something. And then we moved on to the hotel after that.
And so what went down that first time? Like I said, it was pretty awkward. He came in. We were
already in the room. He came in. I think we kind of sat down and there was a little couch and chair area
in the room and we talked for a few minutes and then I remember Joe just like getting up and going
over to him and starting to take his unzip his pants and take them off and started sucking him
and I think the guy was a little taken back by it because of the like forwardness of it but
we kind of like took it from there and things went pretty quickly but so how did that feel for you
you I mean this is the first time you're seeing your guy with a guy where you turned on because
I would assume maybe I don't know at that point you still don't know whether you dig it or not.
I was very turned on by it. Yes. I love watching him with guys.
Is that so interesting? You were a woman that had never even seen guy on guy porn. It wasn't
anything that you had ever thought about. And here you are now seeing your guy with another guy and it turned you on.
Yeah, I had no idea that that was something that would be so, so intriguing to me that would turn me on.
as much as it does. It just goes to show that you never know.
Mm-hmm. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't have known, but it's a really, it's a very enriching
experience for us in our marriage. Right. And for the woman that's listening to, it's not like you
saw your husband as less of a man or anything like that, right? Like it didn't make you see him
different. It was just a turn-up. Yeah, no way. I don't, I don't see him differently. In fact,
I look at him with more, more love now. Yeah.
Yeah, it's amazing. So that first experience, he's kind of like blowing the guy. And now, do you get involved
with the guy this first time? How far do you take it? I did. At first I thought I was going to just sit back and
watch, but I couldn't. I wanted to be involved. So, yeah, so I jumped in pretty quick, honestly.
And I think we really enjoy giving head together. So I think I had jumped in and we had done that.
It wasn't a very long interaction from what I remember.
There was, he had moved to the bed.
There was a lot of oral, all different ways.
The guy had given me oral.
And then I do remember that Joe had fucked him.
I don't believe that I had sex with that guy, with the guy.
Actually, the first couple guys we were with, I didn't have sex with.
It just didn't, it just didn't happen.
And so like I said, it was a pretty quick, seemed like a pretty quick interaction.
And afterwards, I just remember thinking like, okay, that was like a pretty, like that was an okay first try, basically is kind of how I felt about it.
Yeah.
I think it's always, that first time is always the hardest because it's like that, everything is unknown.
But you like seeing your guy, you were turned on by it.
I'm assuming he like seeing that guy go down on you and all that kind of good stuff like he was into it as well.
yes he is yeah he's very much into that and he further down the line obviously because it didn't happen
with that guy but but he loves watching me fuck another guy right right right he's totally into that
did you ever see this guy again or no one and done no that was a one and done we had set up another
time with him and then he's like gone us last minute and so that was it for him so yeah he was
a one at done and so then you have a couple other guys that you hook up with it it's kind of the
same kind of thing where your husband's just looking for the guy and maybe there's some oral for you?
So, yeah, those first two experiences, yes, that's what it was.
That, yeah, he was, he was looking up with the guy and I was getting oral pretty much.
I don't think it was until we were with the third guy that I actually had sex with them.
So, yeah, those first two experiences, yes, that's what it was, that, yeah, he was, he was
looking up with the guy and I was getting oral pretty much.
I don't think it was until we were with the third guy that I actually had sex with them.
So tell me about that experience and that guy.
So that was one of my favorite guys that we have been with.
And we, I think we met with them maybe three, four, five times, but we don't see him any longer.
Again, he check marks a lot of those, like, physical characteristics that I was looking for in a guy.
and we again met him out in public at a restaurant and then we decided to move on to the hotel.
I remember it was a Sunday because afterwards he made a joke about this is the best Sunday afternoon I've ever had.
An afternoon, not even nighttime.
Yeah, no, it wasn't a night time.
And so we, we, even though it was kind of a new experience, I remember him walking into the hotel room that we were already in and he was like, well, this is kind of the awkward.
heart isn't it? And so I just walked up to him myself and I started kissing him and making out with him.
And then it kind of took off from there. I think Joe came over and again, like undid his pants and
started sucking on him. And we did pretty much, I'm pretty sure everything that with him that first time.
I had sex with him. He had he fucked Joe. There was a lot of oral back and forth. I think there was even, while
Joe was fucking me, he was fucking Joe.
Oh wow, like a little train or something. I don't know what this is called. Yeah.
Which I really enjoy that. We've done that with another guy too and I really, really enjoy that because I can see what's going on as well.
Yeah, you have the best of you. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So that was a really, really fun experience. That was like the first, I feel like that was the first experience that I was like, okay, like this is what it could be like.
Yeah. And so, I mean, I was going to ask you, if you,
ever did DP with these guys when you're with two guys because you have two guys there,
but I never thought about that whole train thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Where your guy's getting it and you're getting it.
I think that that's the more interesting kind of story in this kind of threesome, right?
And then if you have the two guys.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a lot of fun.
Yeah.
We really love doing it.
And so what was that like for you?
Banging another guy.
This is the first time you're having sex with another guy for a very long time and
your husband's watching you.
Is it super hot?
Oh, yeah.
I loved it. I ate it up. I really, really enjoyed it. Yeah. And like I said, he, Joe enjoyed watching me do it.
Not that, the first time we were with that guy, we actually the first couple times, I think, we had used protection with him, but we became comfortable with him and he became comfortable with us.
So the first time that we were with him and he didn't use a condom, the thing that Joe really loves doing is while I'm fucking a guy,
he will take his dick out of me and he'll start sucking on it.
That's one of his favorite things to do.
Now is a big part of why you're enjoying it because you're like your husband's watching
and you're kind of performing for him.
Oh yeah.
I love knowing that he's watching me.
That's so interesting.
Can you imagine fast forward if you went back five years ago and you're like with another
guy in front of your husband loving it doing a train?
Would you ever imagine that this is where you'd be?
No, no.
On a Sunday afternoon.
No, never in a million years.
You guys thought you'd be like not talking in separate bedrooms.
Yeah, exactly.
Just continuing to drift apart.
Yeah, so crazy how things changed up.
So, okay, I know he talked a lot about the reconnecting sex.
Like, a lot of times people call it reclaiming.
And he's like, I don't even call it reclaiming.
I call it reconnecting.
And I thought that was like an interesting perspective.
How is that reconnecting with you guys afterwards?
Because people always talk about that, the sex that you have after those experiences
with each other and how it's always so intense and sometimes lasts for weeks you could live on the high
from it definitely so joe is very very sexually charged so we could have one of these experiences and and typically
if time allows we'll be with a guy for four hours four or five hours and so after those experiences
like i'm good i'm good for a few days i don't necessarily but joe it does the opposite for him it
like charges his him up and and he's ready to go. And so yeah, we did have a conversation about
the the reconnection sex. For us, it's a lot of we really love like laying in bed, being in
intimate space together and just talking about the experience. What did you like? What did you like?
Did you know that I was doing this while you were doing that? Because, you know, you miss things that
are going on because you may be, you may be getting some sort of pleasure that has you kind of locked in.
And so that's the thing that we love to do is to just kind of, for a long time afterwards, just to talk about it. Oh, well, did you like it when he did this or did you like watching this? Those kind of things. And those things do carry us through when we're within our relationship and when we're having reconnection sex.
Right. In between guys, you have all this other stuff now to talk about, to fantasize about, to go over, to reminisce, right?
Yeah. It's basically like our own mental.
porn collection. Yeah. And then that's a part of it for you, watching him be pleasured. As well by the
guy, do you love to see that for him? Oh yeah. I love watching him get fucked. Back to one time when we
were with a guy, it was somebody we had been with a few times. And I was like, I said when we got into
the hotel room, I said, well, why don't you, you start off with him and I'll just be over here on the
couch watching. And they spent a good long while together and I got to just sit there and watch. And
masturbate and watch him get fucked.
And that turns you on enough.
That could get you off, just watching that.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I let it happen for a good long while,
just really enjoying watching it.
I didn't feel in that moment,
I didn't feel like I needed to be involved.
Because I also knew that I was going to get involved later
because it was somebody we had been with
and we really enjoy.
Right, right.
So I knew that I would get my own satisfaction.
So that guy, the great guy that you liked the best,
but you saw him a bunch of times,
to the point where you trusted him enough that you were doing it without a condom,
and that was all good.
How many other guys have you seen and what other kinds of experiences have you had since?
That guy.
So, yes, we saw him, I don't know, maybe three or four times.
And then he said that he was looking for like a monogamous relationship because he was single at that point.
We have another guy, though, that we've probably seen seven, eight times.
And he's the one that we enjoy the most mutually.
and that we, like, we just, everything seems so seamless with him.
We kind of all equally get pleasure.
We have a good time.
We'll play around and fuck for a while and then we'll go to sleep for a little while.
And then we'll wake up and have some more fun.
So he's kind of our, like, he's almost like our gold standard for guys that we, that we meet with.
I'm trying to think that besides the cross-dresser.
Yeah, we'll get on him.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
he's been pretty much the kind of the regular and then there was one guy we had been messaging with
we just could not line our schedules up we've probably texted with him back and forth for a couple
months now and then when joe was out of town we actually arranged for me to go meet him and
and fuck so that's what that was the that's the first experience i've had outside of us meeting a guy
yeah and that's like a real hot wife kind of experience tell me about that
Yeah, so it was kind of a last minute thing. There was this other guy we had been messaging with and couldn't line the schedules up. But then it was kind of last minute on, again, on a Sunday. And we were like, hey, here's the deal. He's out of town. She's horny. Can you, basically, Joe was like, can you go fuck my wife for me. And so he was like, yeah, I sure can. And so within I would say two hours, I was in a hotel room with him. He was not my favorite.
person to be with ever out of all the guys we've been with, but it was a fun experience. He was
fun to have sex with. We did a lot of different things, but one of the things I kind of quickly came to
realize is when there's just two of you, there's not as many options as there is when there's three of you.
So there was just only so much you could do with just the two of us. And there were a couple just qualities
about him that in person that I just didn't prefer necessarily. Now, what was the deal with your
husband was he like on the phone listening? Were you taking picks? Were you just to report back after? And he was
like horny just thinking about it. How is it arranged with your husband? So he's got some serious
FOMO when it comes to that kind of thing. So he obviously I checked in with him when we, when I first got there,
but then I didn't check in with him for a while after. And I think it freaked him out. He, I think he was most
concerned about are you okay? Are you safe? For sure. And then we, we did send some pictures
to him and we texted back and forth with him some. But yeah, I think it drove him absolutely crazy
to not know like play by play and moment by moment what was going on. Yeah. But was it like a turn on
for you to be doing this knowing that you were going to bring home the details to your husband later?
Did you enjoy the solo action or do you prefer when you're with the all together? Or do you like
both? Well, I liked both. I liked the experience. I'm glad that I went and did.
it, but I think I do prefer all three of it, like us being together with somebody, because again,
it's just more, it's more mutually enjoyable for everybody. And there's more going on, like you said.
Yeah, yeah. There's just a lot more stimulation. A big part of what you like about the situations is
watching the guy on guy action that you don't get that. That's missing from when you're just
solo with the guy. So I could, I would understand why the, the three someone,
be top of the mountain for you for sure. But you did enjoy, though, doing the solo thing as well.
And that's still on the table. Yeah. Yeah, that's still on the table. And honestly, we talked,
while I was with that guy, we talked a lot about, oh, well, what would you do with Joe if he was here?
And so that and that is something that we're still messaging with him and hope to get together
as a threesome one day. You guys sound kind of lucky in that. It seems like you've been able to
actually not only pick, but also meet up with a bunch of guys.
It's not hard. It's not that easy to find a third, whether it's a man or a woman. Sounds like you've been able to get a couple, a bunch. Yeah, we've had some really good experiences. And like I said, we've got the one guy who we've seen, I think maybe like I said six, seven, eight times, something like that. Yeah. It's just hard for us to line up schedules to meet. But he's definitely like the one that we enjoy the most and is kind of been ongoing. What's interesting about him is he's truly bisexual. He is. He is, he's.
not a relationship. He just has couples that he meets with. And the last time we were, we saw him,
I started asking questions about those couples. And he has, he has two different couples that he's
been seeing for eight, nine, ten years. Wow. And that's just, that's his thing. Now, before we get
to the cross dressing, the cross jester, because that's like an interesting story, did you guys ever
discuss anything more when it comes to like different kinds of scenarios, like, hooking up with a woman,
doing a couple swap, going to a swingers party. Since you guys have opened things up, did you ever
think to take it further in any, in those kinds of way? Yes, we have talked about that. It's just not
something that we have put a lot of energy into planning. We did go to like a swinger party at a bar one time.
Gosh, I think that was maybe last summer about six, seven months ago or so. And because we had been on a
a Facebook page for it. Everybody seemed like they were pretty open and, hey, come out to this so
you can meet people in person and blah, blah, blah. So we went down to this bar and we went there and we were
probably me more so than Joe, but I was really put off by it. Really? How come? Everybody was
super clippy. Like, we found it very difficult to actually people and connect with people there,
because everybody already knew each other.
And then the people that we did talk to,
it just looked like they were just looking for another woman to join their couple
or just looking for like a wife swap.
It didn't seem like they were very open to...
Newbies or anything else outside of what they did.
Yeah, that sounds.
Yeah, it did.
It did suck.
Yeah, we were really put off by it.
That's a bad party.
That's the party planner person or whatever.
You know, because I don't hear that typically.
A lot of times people say like people in the lifestyle are so inclusive and so open and so welcoming
to newbies.
But of course it's not going to be the same everywhere, right?
I just think that was a bad party for sure because typically I don't hear that kind of experience.
But that place obviously is that way.
And those people that hang out there, that's just the way they roll.
But I would say give it another shot someplace else.
Yeah.
And now what about doing like a couple swap or looking online for other things?
Is there ever any of that in your future or do you just strictly like what you're doing now?
We do what we're doing.
We have been messaging with a couple that we were hoping to maybe meet up with soon that is interested in, you know, being with another couple.
Again, I don't think that the, from what we've gathered messaging back and forth, I don't think that the guy is into a ton of action with another guy.
But enough so that I think it could be a fun experience.
between all of us because I've had very limited experience with other women. So I really,
that's something that I want to explore. I just, we haven't put a lot of energy into doing it yet.
So now when he, I know that when he told you about this cross-dresser, he was like hooking up with,
you had some questions or didn't really believe it. Tell me that whole story. There was a hookup
recently. I know I need the update. Yes. Yes, you do. So yeah, he, he found this cross-dresser,
I think just in his travels and his workday had kind of happened upon her at a gas station.
And he's so outgoing that he, of course, went right up to her and started talking to her.
So in exchanged email addresses or something like that because that's how she communicates.
So he ends up hooking up with this cross-dresser.
And I think he had hooked up with her maybe three, four times, something like that.
And I was just always really curious about it.
There was something that always felt a little like odd or off to me about it.
Because to me, again, being like the really curious person that I am, I'm like, who is this person?
Who, like, who is the person behind the cross dresser?
What are they doing?
What's their life like?
I had a million questions in my head.
And of course, Joe's like, yeah, we don't talk.
We just don't meet.
We meet and we fuck.
That's what we do, basically.
That's guys for you.
I'm not going to ask them. Yeah, I'm not going to ask questions. I'm just so curious. And so what I have learned
kind of after the fact is that he, of course, told the cross-dresser that he was married and his wife
knows and supports him. And of course, again, in hindsight, now I know the cross-dresser thought
that he was, of course, lying about that and didn't even believe he had a wife. So after telling the
cross-dresser about, my wife is really cool.
curious, blah, blah, blah, the cross-stresser decided to test the waters and said, we'll give her
my email address and tell her to email me. And it took me a couple days, but I did. I emailed her,
and we started this email interaction back and forth. And after the fact, again, come to find out,
the cross-dresser did not believe I was real. Yeah, yeah. At first. That's so funny.
Yeah, thought that it was just either it was Joe messaging or something. Yeah, for sure.
So, so again, I just had a lot of questions.
back and forth, but we emailed back and forth for about a week, and then we decided to meet for a coffee
at Starbucks.
Oh, my God.
I wonder if even at that point, the cross-stester's thinking, there's no way a woman's walking
through the door.
Because even an email, it doesn't matter that you're emailing.
It can still be Joe, right, emailing.
So it's really.
Yes.
He's not.
The car sister doesn't believe it until you walk through the door.
How surprised.
Yes, she did not.
She told me later, she was like, I did not think that you would show up at that starts.
And I was like, I didn't know whether I was going to either because that was something super outside the box for me.
I'm much more comfortable, obviously meeting people if it's the two of us together meeting them.
Because I'm much more introverted and quiet and kind of a little bit more shy.
So it's just easier if I'm with Joe to do that.
So you walk into Starbucks and tell me what goes down.
So yeah, I walk into Starbucks.
It is insanely busy.
You know, these cars are sitting right there inside the door.
So she stands up and she gives me a hug and she was like, where do you want to sit?
And I said, why don't we sit outside?
It was a nice spring day.
And so she got me a drink and we sat outside and we kind of, we basically took turns asking questions back and forth.
And of course, my questions have more to do with, I want to know about you personally.
So she would answer them or not, depending on what it was.
But I just couldn't help.
She's very open about saying, I'm not passable as a woman.
This is just something that I enjoy and I feel sexy doing it.
And you can tell it's a man dressed up in female clothing with makeup on and a wig on.
It's not like she's not like she's really fooling anybody, but she knows that.
She admits it.
It's just something that she really, really enjoys.
And so sitting there across the table, looking at her, having a conversation with her, I just couldn't help but think, I'm seeing the person behind this.
I'm not seeing this persona that you're putting off.
And she puts on, there's such a different personality between her cross-dressing self and then the counterpart male.
Yeah.
So, but we don't see that.
We see a lot of crossover.
You see the cross-dresser is what you're saying.
No, we see
Both.
Because, yeah, because
so since that time,
I sat down and the next time I met
for coffee, I met with the
male.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, continue on.
This is such a fascinating story.
Yeah.
So, yeah, so the next week,
I met him at the same Starbucks,
and it was him dressed as himself.
Now, was that your request?
Did you say, hey, you know what?
Because yours just so curious,
I would be the same way, right?
This is why I do my show
because I was curious by nature.
right? So did you say, hey, would you be okay to show up as your male self so I could see you that way as well?
Was that your idea?
I think it kind of mutually came about because, yes, I think she, the cross-dresser, may have asked and I said, yeah, I would love to sit down with your male counterpart and get to know you because basically, and I think I had said it, I believe that I see a lot of you underneath the cross-dressing.
Yeah.
So, yeah, and he was open to that.
So you walk in.
And that you know exactly who he was when you walked in?
Could you see this resemblance, I would assume?
Yes.
Yes.
Very much.
Well, and he had been, he sat at the same table that we were at the week before.
And he brought me a rose, which I thought was really, really sweet.
Yeah.
So, so again, we sat down and we talked.
And one of the things that has been a catch for me this whole time is the fact that he is married and his,
his spouse does not know anything about this lifestyle.
And that's a big hang up for me.
It always has been.
And it's been a deal breaker with other people.
But for some reason with him, we continue having conversations.
So I met with him that week.
The following week, Joe and I met with him.
We all three met together.
And so, again, we met at a Starbucks.
And this was the first time that Joe had seen him as himself.
Right.
Because Joe has a free pass to hook up with guys.
You'll get more of that story in Joe's episode.
But he's able to go and hook up solo.
And he's been playing solo with this cross-tusters.
But always when the cross-tester has been dressed.
Correct.
Correct.
So, yeah, we all three of us met together and sat down and, like I said, had a coffee.
and Joe even said, I see a lot of this personality in your cross-dressing personality as well.
So, again, we didn't think that there was that big of a change or a difference.
There probably is for him internally, but we don't see it on the outside.
So, yeah.
So that was the third time we met.
And then the following week, I had a park date with him where we kind of, we found like
a little bit of like a secluded area in a park.
And again, he had brought some like coffee and tea for us and we sat.
But we got to be able to sit there and kiss and hug and touch and kind of have a little bit more of an exploratory session with one another.
Interesting.
Now, is she dressed as her cross-dressing self or is he showing up as a guy at that park?
He is showing up as a guy at the park.
The only time, it was only that first initial time that we met.
That you met with the cross-just side of him.
Yes.
Right.
Okay.
So now you're at the park and you're kind of like hook it up with him a little bit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're, like I said, we're kissing and we're touching and kind of just exploring each other and had a really good time.
And at this point, we had the threesome date planned.
So we knew it was coming.
So, yeah, we had a really good time together there.
And then the following week was going to be the week we were going to be meeting on that weekend.
And so we decided, Joe and I decided that we were not going to meet with.
He wasn't going to meet her and I wasn't going to meet him that week.
We were just going to kind of save it for the weekend.
We decided on a hotel.
We met up with.
We were in the lobby of the hotel and she walks in dressed because that's how we decided is that she was going to show.
Oh, okay.
So that's interesting.
So you had only met up with her as a guy with your husband and fooled around with it.
But this time, the hookup was going to be her dressed.
Yes, because the male counterpart is not sure about it.
Mail counterpart says that he is a straight male.
Yeah, right.
So he can't show up and hook up with your husband.
It's okay to be the guy with you in the park.
But if your husband's going to be there, he only feels like he could be with a guy when he's dressed.
I totally understand that because I've talked to many cross-dressers and that's definitely the thing.
So that would make sense that the only way he could do that is if he's dressed with your guy.
Yes.
Because your guy's going to be there.
And you were down for that?
You're just an open person.
So curious.
You kind of roll with anything.
You're like, why not try it?
Right?
You're that kind of person.
I love it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Totally.
I was definitely down for it.
So, so yeah, we head on up to the hotel room.
And so Joe and the cross-dresser kind of get into it.
because that was the thing is I wanted to see what they do,
what they have always done together that I haven't been like privy to.
So I get to kind of sit and watch what going on and what they do and how they enjoy one another,
giving each other head, finger on each other, just a whole bunch of playing around.
So we had a really good time with that.
I did a good bit of watching for the first.
I don't even know how long just for a little while, just because like I said,
I wanted to see what they do.
And then at one point, I got involved with, it was crossdresser and Joe, I got involved in the scene and made sure that I undressed for her because she, male counterpart was really looking forward to seeing me naked.
Yeah.
And then we decided that crossdresser was going to go and transform into his male counterpart.
Oh, interesting.
So, so when she's with, so she wasn't going to be with you, he was going to be with you.
There was a switch when that came to the, when that was brought to the table.
I love this.
This is fascinating and dynamic.
So she goes to the bathroom.
She calls me in because she wants help on dressing.
So I go in and I undress her.
We, and then Joe comes in and we both start giving her head.
And then we go back out.
She finishes like taking all the makeup and everything off and she comes out.
And then so he and I spent a good bit of time in bed.
together so much so that Joe was like y'all are boring because we were just kind of like we were just
doing a lot of talking and touching and and and caressing and everything and when it came down to it
he he was never able to get hard enough for me to have sex with him so it was just a lot of like
oral and fingering and joe and i fucking and kind of going back and forth like that i even i pegged
I pegged him and Joe both.
So we just kind of had a really fun mutual time,
and it seemed to us like he was into it,
even as his nail counterpart there with Joe and I.
Wow.
Fascinating.
Right?
Like I said before, I thought how crazy it is that here you are with two guys,
but now even take it a step further,
here you are with this cross-tresser and the switching back and forth and everything.
It's a really interesting dynamic, like I said, for sure.
And did you enjoy it?
Yeah, I really, we really did enjoy it.
We thought it didn't, again, it didn't kind of fulfill all the experiences I wanted to have because I really wanted to fuck him.
Yeah.
But it just, it wasn't happening.
So it didn't checkmark that box for me, but it was a really, really fun experience.
Another little, like, fun tidbit was we were lame there after Joe and I had had sex.
And so Joe was soft.
and he cross-dresser had never seen him soft and practically pounced on him and started sucking him.
He was like, oh, I need to go experience that.
So that was a really funny part.
But yeah, we both really enjoyed it.
We realized that there are things between the two of us that we need to make sure boundary-wise that all three of us are included when we're with another person because, like I said, Joe found it kind of boring.
and when he and I were just in bed and playing around and there just wasn't that much action going on.
Right, right, right. So a little less of that next time for Joe.
Correct. Yeah. Oh my God. That's crazy. That's a great story. Now, last question, just because you did touch upon it.
How do you feel like doing all this stuff and opening up your marriage and having threesomes has changed your marriage, even outside of the bedroom?
more so outside of the bedroom because we already know how it's changed, you know,
inside the bedroom.
It has brought us like immeasurably closer together by far.
It has created a whole another dimension of our relationship.
We, along with just a lot of other work that we're doing,
we are having much deeper conversations.
We are much more open with one another.
We are able to say hard things to each other that we know may not go over so well,
but may need to be said. It's a deeper relationship than we've ever had before. And I could have never
imagined that it would be this way. Along with that, though, comes some with, for me, with some really
heavy emotional tolls that it takes on me because I kind of take on. I'm pretty empathic. So I take on a lot of
that. So it's also been kind of difficult from that standpoint to just constantly be bouncing back from
like really heavy emotional conversations.
Really? Even with your husband, you're saying?
Yes, yeah.
Like it's so intense. It's like too much. I don't understand.
Yeah, it's just because there's a lot of processing of emotions and through this whole process, especially with a cross-stressor, we've come to touch on some kind of insecurities that we've had.
So kind of exploring those and exploring where they're coming from and how we can navigate around them, make sure that they don't get touched on and try.
triggered when we're with other guys or couples. And again, just trying to dig into, well, where are those
insecurities coming from? So it's just, like I said, it's more difficult conversations that
that we wouldn't be having if we weren't doing this. Right. You're opening up a whole new
area. So you're figuring out more parts of yourself. But I think that's where down the line,
even five more years from now, you're even closer because of going there. You're really going
and seeing layers of each other that you would never see and talking about them.
And that's what typically people say is what brings couples together.
It's that overcommunication.
And I think that you're having a level of intimacy with the other person that you wouldn't have
because most of the time all those layers stay hidden.
Yes.
They're not there.
Even if they're not so great.
Like you said, some of them are insecurities.
And it brings up.
But those are parts of who you are.
You're not like creating new parts.
You're just uncovering things that are already there.
and it's coming to the surface and you're tending to them, even if they're difficult,
which I think in the long run brings you closer.
Mm-hmm.
Definitely.
Right?
It doesn't, none of it has these insecurities that have come up and everything.
None of it has been something that could affect your relationship in a negative way.
No, it's just been things that we've had to work through between the two of us so that they
don't occur again or we don't touch on those spots or like I said it's it's kind of figuring out okay
well where are those insecurities coming from and kind of exploring that yeah so listen I love this
story I'm so glad you called in too I feel like even though it's the same story it's always a
completely different episode and I I love getting the same story from both couples so thanks so much
for calling in as well I have super hot picks of you guys over on my Patreon your husband sent me
He sent me some rated X-1.
Those will go over up on my Discord.
You guys could put them up on my Discord as well.
So those will be over there.
I'll give you free access.
Promise me that you're going to listen to Samantha's episode or check them out because I just feel like there's a connection there that needs to be made.
And anyway, thanks.
What do we call you, Mary?
Thanks, Mary.
Thanks so much for calling in.
And make sure to go over to my Discord and check those people out and post the pics.
And I'll tell Joe too.
I will definitely go check them out.
And thank you for having me on.
So that fascinating story.
Thanks so much for calling it.
Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly
Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback
and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook.
It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it.
The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show.
I kind of picked one story from each category that I talked about on my show.
show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang
being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all
true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like
a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like
erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true.
stories, 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two,
and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format,
and finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th, but you could pre-order it now.
And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my
Discord. My Discord does not disappoint, okay? There's no way you use.
get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book.
There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do
there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of
contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total, strictly
anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to
my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is,
email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback.
Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com.
That's Strictly Anonymous Podcasts at gmail.com.
And I will send you the link to Discord.
So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.
This is the Strictly Anonymous podcast.
Thanks.
Have a good day.
Bye, Mary.
Bye.
Okay.
I just want to tell you that I do.
I have a book coming out, and it's called Strictly Anonymous Confessions, the Secret Lives of
Total Strangers.
I picked like 17 of the best episodes.
That was actually hard to do because I have over a thousand episodes.
And I re-told them all in third person.
So it's a little bit more erotica, but it's still like real life stories.
If you like secret lives of Mormon wives, this is like the secret lives of real fucking
people's wives, okay?
There's a lot of people out there that are doing some crazy things, and you get to read about them
in my book.
Now, it is up for pre-order.
It's not out until October 14.
So what I'm offering you as an incentive to get my book is free access to my
Discord.
If you pre-order my book on Amazon or anywhere, if you send me a pick of your pre-order, I will
send you a free link to get into my Discord.
Now, my Discord is super fun.
There are so many different channels there with so many pictures and videos.
All of my listeners are over there.
There's thousands of people signed up.
There's a Pussy Pick contest.
going down right now. If you want to join that contest, you went 100 bucks, put up a pussy
pick of your partner or of yourself, or just join and see all the pussy picks. There's so many
other things to see though on my Discord where people are literally hooking up over there. So it's a
really good deal. So if you want to get in by pre-ordering my book, go to the link in the description
or Google Strictly Anonymous Confessions book. You're going to find it, purchase it, pre-order it,
send me a pick, email it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's
Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com, and I will send you the free link to my Discord.
Anyway, thanks so much for listening.
