Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1118 - Tika and Jeremy are Into Hotwifing, Couple Swapping and More

Episode Date: May 18, 2025

Tika and Jeremy are into hotwifing, couple swaps and more and they called in to discuss it. Tune in to first hear from Jeremy and then hear from Tika discuss all the details, including their first swinger campsite experience and exactly what went down, including exhibitionism and him getting some. To squirt, how he knew he was always into the hotwife scenario, how and why they’re both decided hooking up with guys was what was they both preferred, the hotel parties they went to and their first mff threesome they had, when and why they built a sex room in their house and what goes down in there, her first dvp and exactly what went down and how she felt about it afterwards, how he was open to hooking up with a guy and how she felt about it at first, his first experience sucking a cock and how Tika felt about it, how and why Tika was nervous when they first started hooking up with others, how and why Tika is sometimes jealous of seeing her guy with other women and why sometimes she’s not, the orgy they had with two sisters and exactly what went down, how both of them feel their relationship now with each other differs then their first marriages plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of TIKA AND JEREMY plus anonymous pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord!  MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712  Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.  Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ For 20% off your Butter Wellness perineum massager use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2512-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use code anonymous to get an additional 10% off the campaign’s current discount - that’s 60% off ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get $10 off Shameless Care’s female viagra cream, just click on the link and use code: Strictly  Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Tika was actually the one that brought up opening up their relationship. She wanted to have a little fun and Jeremy was down and they like sort of went at it right from the get-go. They started out at like these campsite and she talks about those. he actually talks about them first because I talked to him first. I talked to Jeremy first for 30 minutes and then Tika comes on and talks for 30 minutes. Now when Jeremy explains the campouts, he's got a little different take on them, but he goes through the whole story like the first two campouts that they go to and how far they went and the

things that they did, how they figured out that they were exhibitionist and, you know, how many guys she fucked. He really loves seeing her fuck other guys. And that's actually what she really enjoys too. They have done those swaps with couples or are couples they fool around with. She has seen him with other girls. What she loves mostly is the lot of guys actually hooking up with a lot of guys. They have a sex room in their house.

They build that early on. I mean, they're both having like a really good. She's done DVP, which is two dicks and her pussy at the same time. He sucked a dick. Okay. And these are things that they never did before meeting each other. And they both talk about how like they are like each other's best friend and have like the best relationship, both in and out of the bedroom.

But in the bedroom, they are having a lot of fucking fun together. They're both very open. They have a super interesting story. They're a fun couple. They sent me picks. She said she's going to send me a pick of her sex room. I really want to see it because they have this full-fledged sex room in their house. But anyway, I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with first Jeremy and then Tika.

Hey, Jeremy. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm doing all right. Can't complain. You and your girl, Tika, are like in a car somewhere talking to me, okay? We're doing the thing that I do sometimes. We're doing the thing that I sometimes do with couples where I'm going to get the story first from you for half the episode,

and then we're going to get your girl on. We're going to save the best for last because everyone wants to hear from a girl. Oh, that should be interesting. Yeah, everyone wants to hear from a girl like your girl, because literally Tika, your girlfriend or wife, whatever she is for you. She's the one that brought up like getting into the lifestyle and opening up your relationship, right? She has. She was the one, though, that brought it up first, not you.

No, it was her. Yeah, so, I mean, everyone was... We're sitting in the garage having drinks like we usually do when we have some alone time. And I don't know if she was feeling pretty good lit up. And we just heard Tombo with sex and what we like. And she said her talking about, like, how she likes to not be settled down with one person or... Yeah, but okay, let me leave... Okay, let me help you out here, though, because you're just like all of a sudden we're drunk

in your garage. Let me ask you this. How long were you guys dating? How old were you at the time? Oh, God, we were together a year. And so I was two years ago, so I would have been 44. She would have been. How old? 40. 40. Okay, so let me ask you this. Was this your first, like, were you guys married before you met each other? Yeah. Yeah, we both were. Okay. We were both in relationships. Okay. And now were you in a vanilla relationship? Or did you ever play around or anything? Or were you, like, strictly like vanilla background, monogamous, normal relationship? It was beyond vanilla. I was pretty much as, yeah, not having sex with my ex at all.

So when you say beyond, do you mean beneath vanilla, not beyond? Beyond vanilla would be what you're doing now. You were like beneath vanilla. Like you weren't even having vanilla sex. That's right. Yeah, okay. I was really bad. I have a shower sex with myself.

Oh my God. So you get divorced and you wind up meeting probably the girl of your dream. James Tika, who tells you one day, like, a year into your relationship that she's, like, really doesn't want to settle down with one person. Like, she wants to be non-monogamous, but stay with you, right? Yeah. Okay. Correct.

And you were down? Oh, 100%. It took us a lot of it, a lot to, when we, you know, for a while talking about it and decide if it was a good thing or not, and we figure we might not try and give it a shot. Yeah. And now you've done a lot, right? Like the short story is, and then you guys are both going to give me the details. I mean, you guys have been there, done that.

You have a sex room in your house. You've been to parties. You fuck two sisters at one time. I want that story. I think I'm going to make your girl tell me that story. But you've, you know, you've been there, done that in the past two years that you guys got involved. So talk me through those first conversations of, like, what you were going to do in the lifestyle and what was like your first move.

Like, you know, when you decided to sort of get involved and open up your relationship, But were you like, let's go to Swingers clubs? Did you go on a website? Like, what did you do first? Yeah, we totally went on. She found this website. I can't remember what it's called, and we signed up for it. And this couple, this is how the camp out, this is our first experience.

So it was actually this camp out. Okay. We kind of didn't do anything with people at first because we didn't. The first camper we went to, it's like the people were in our crowd, but we were sex fissionists or whatever we were fucking front of everybody. Oh, my God. That's your first time ever doing anything like that, right? Yeah.

And how was that? Did you realize, wow, I really am an exhibitionist. You love that people were watching you like, fuck in the daytime in the woods. Oh, 100%. We were doing it mostly at night and fucking people were at be at a huge bonfire of 50 or 70 to 60 people around. And then we just start making it out and going at it. And then we strip right down and just that people ask if they come over and watch. I'm like, yeah, fuck, sure.

Now, let me ask you this. Were other people also fucking around that campfire and you got to watch them too? No, it was us. Really? Was this a swinger camp out or a regular camp out? No, it was a swinger's camp out. Oh, but you guys were the only fun people out of 50 people.

No one else fucked at the campfire? Yeah, they seem to be like a little bit older and a little, I don't know, they're, I don't know what, they were swingers, but they would do all their stuff in the house. and they had a room or something that we never bothered going into we were never, because we weren't attracted to anybody.

Even though no one's attracted for anything, that's very out of the box, right? A lot of people are never going to fuck in front of other people and there you are in front of like 50 people, totally naked banging your girl out. So, okay, so when you got home from there, like you didn't do anything with other people, but like when you talked about the fact

of bringing other people into your relationship was like everything, you know, on the table, like were you going to be allowed to fuck girls and her fuck guys? Or like, what were you guys like into or looking for? Yeah, we started with guys first

because she wasn't too sure about the girl thing. We haven't really tried it, but I was like, I like the guy thing too. I like both, but the guy thinks more, I don't know,

for some reason it amps you up a little bit more and, and I don't know, sharing her just gives you a different sensation. Well, for you, yeah, a lot of guys, listen, some guys have that,

but you have that. Like you, the thought of watching your girl with another guy, was like something that you thought would turn you on? Yeah, 100% and she loved it. Well, let me ask you this. When you were in that like vanilla marriage, like, did you ever, like, was that the kind of

porn you watched? Did you always secretly know that you were like kind of into that but just never experienced it? Oh, absolutely. That's all the porn I watch. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, that's all I watch. It's so funny to me how many guys are really into that, you know? Because...

I know, it is weird, but it's an animal instinct or something. I don't know. It just gives you some kind of. kind of drive. Really? And what is it about it? Is it seeing her, like, being pleasureed by the other guy? Is that what is, like, hot to you, like, seeing your girl, like, in ecstasy?

Or, like, what is it about the scenario that, you know, had you watching all that porn and everything? What was the turn on? I don't know. It was like you're stepping out of your body and watching her fuck. Right. Just to see it from a different view. And then, yeah, and then just watch her and her get into it.

to it and loving it and then I join in and and then she just starts going nuts. Right. So, okay, so you wanted to do the hot wiping thing and that's what you and at first she wasn't interested in maybe her doing girls. Let me ask you this. Was she down for you doing girls or she didn't know how she feel about that either? She wasn't sure how she'd feel about it. We have done it and it's not it's definitely not a go-to for her. Right. It's the guy thing.

It's more the guy thing with her. She gets jealous. Okay, so, like, walk me through, like, so you get, you know, that camp out was kind of fun. You realize you're an exhibitionist. Now do you go online and start looking for couples? Do you go to a swingers party? Like, what do you do next after that camp out? Oh, God, we ended up at another camp out, but we were, we would look for, we'd go online and

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Visit blu-too.com for more details and important safety information. And I thank Bluetooth for sponsoring the podcast. Now do you go online and start looking for couples? Do you go to a swingers party? Like, what do you do next after that camp out? Oh, God, we ended up at another camp out. But we would look for, we'd go online and look for guys. And believe it or not, it's harder than you believe to find other guys who

who are up for this kind of thing. How come? Yeah, because, yeah, most of them think, because we always do it together, but a lot of them, like, the thing is just her or whatever, and, and,

and then we tell them over a couple, and all, and something, oh, you're just going to watch them, like, well, no. Right, but do you want to hook up with a guy, but do you want to hook up with the guy, are you into guys or no? Yes or no? A little bit once in a while,

Not my favorite thing, but I'm more into sharing her. Right, but let me ask you this. If a guy's like, hey, I would totally be down to fuck your wife, but I'd like to hook up with you too. You will do that. Is that what you're saying? We have done that, yeah. Okay, so you're down.

So what happened? You went to another camp out. Did you fuck anyone else? Did you get a guy at the camp out or the next camp out? You did the same thing just fucked in front of people? Oh, God. What did we do? No, we fucked in front of other people.

And then other guys had come over, and then she'd just sit there, and we all took her, three or four of us took turns on her. She loved it. Three or four guys? Yeah. Oh, so that's kind of like a little gang bang at the fire pit. Don't you think? This is actually at a campsite.

Oh, wasn't that the same shit? Isn't there a fire pit at a campsite? I don't know. I don't go camping. I hate it. They have, there's usually a main campfire pit on, the campsite and then there's just people sit around find her own cruise or

or people that they click with and that's what we did. We found a, we end up finding a group right away. Actually, we didn't get, they found us and then lured us over there. And then we just hang out and and then we had after a day or two it wasn't hard to find guys because they're all there.

Get her, get both of us naked because we were a while, well, I'd walk around naked the whole time. And she'd walk around with Toplas. But she, so that's second time. she did four guys, including you. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

And so that was your first time seeing her fuck another guy. How was that for you? Because this is like the first time we were experiencing something you fantasized for so long about. Oh, I loved it. I liked it a lot. Mm-hmm. And then I'm also, yeah, we're always trying to figure ways to do it more often. And with our schedule sometimes it's there, but we always try to find a way.

Right. And now afterwards, like, because a lot of people talk about the reclaiming sex. Like, was there really great sex afterwards? well. Yeah, we've, we've had, yeah, we've had wicked sex. Okay, so what happened after that, like, sounds like a little gang-bang at your camping trip where she's got all these guys. What happened after that? Did you go to a swinger party? Did you find a swinger event? Like, where did all this, how did all this shit happen?

Hotel parties, uh, hotel parties where we live. We actually never really found people at the Swinger clubs, but we found, we found, like, they have hotel parties, and that's where we find these people. We ended up at a hotel party, meeting up with people, and kind of fucking in front of everybody at the end, and then we'd take turns, and we had a girl come in and get involved with us. And now, did you fuck that girl that time? Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, she let me. Okay. And did she fool around with the girl, or did she just watch? Or, like, oh, yeah, usually, usually if we have a, usually, we have a, usually, we have a girl, Tika and the other girl would always start first. Oh, okay. And then I would, uh, then I would join in. Okay. So, okay. So, so,

how was that for because these were all first for you you know I'm trying to go chronologically and keep you on track it's a little hard but like you know this is your first time now having this experience with another woman you know you just fucked another woman in front of your girl she's going down on another girl in front of you it sounds like you never

had any of these experiences before so like I've never had that experience it was unreal it was it was a total fantasy yeah and there it is playing out so how that was great too oh I loved every bit of it Did you see her after the party ever again?

Oh, yeah. We had her over one time because we bought a buck bunny. Oh, what? We lured her over with that. What's a buck bunny? Like a sybian. Oh, yeah, because at what point did you, I mean, you're jumping around, but like at what point do you guys, like, build a fucking sex room in your house?

Oh, my idea was to turn into a room for an art room, and then she's like, fuck that, no, we're going to turn this into a sex room. So it's her idea. Right. So she designed it and painted it and then we filled it up with all of our goodies. Right. Okay. So you have that room and you've invited that girl over.

And do you invite a lot of people to come over and play? Like, do you have little sex parties in that room in your house with people? Oh, we'll have couples over. Yeah. And we love to get her in the swing. You're a girl in the swing. Yeah. Okay.

So when you say, yeah. when you say couples like where are you meeting these couples now you're going to hotel takeovers you're meeting people are you guys on like an adult website also looking for couples and singles and stuff yeah usually tinder but we're on adult friend finder too and that's where we find the couples oh okay cool and how have you had many like couple swaps full swaps like that yeah we've done full swaps with the couples and and it's all we always have a great time so walk me through the first couple like I want to hear all your first experiences. You know, listen, you haven't been doing this for 10 years.

You've just been doing it for two years. You've done a lot, but this is all new for you. So, like, who was that first couple that you met up with? And tell me that experience. Do you remember? The first couple we met was that we hooked up with was a couple we met at the campsite that lived where we lived. Okay. And so we end up, oh, God, I'm trying to remember how we met up with them.

but we would meet up. We met up with them back here where we live. Mm-hmm. And then we went to, I think we got a hotel room with them, and then we phoked up with them a few times since. And how is that to look over, like, while you're begging somebody to see your girl? How is that for you?

It's something else. It's always, like, mind-blowing for me. It always, like, enhances everything for me. Right. Just... I just love watching it with guys, mostly, but Washington with the girls, too, is something else. Let me ask you this.

What's your type of, like, I mean, like, when you're doing the threesome, you know, do you do everything with her, like spit roasting? Have you guys ever done D.P? Like, what goes down during your threesomes with the guy? She's not into the DEP, but we've done the DVP, and she, fuck, it blows her mind. Oh, I can't wait to talk to her. She's at two dicks in her pussy at one time? Yeah, she never thought she'd like it, and then we, is,

The guy we were with convinced her, and fuck me. She just lost her marbles. Oh, my God. And what about you? Oh, it was really good. I keep trying to sneak in for the DEP itself, but I was like, come on, let's try it. I'm sure she's going to get, though. You're only two years in.

I mean, and this is the girl that, like, asked you to get a sex room in your house. But wait a second. Let's talk about before I go to your girl. We got, like, a little bit longer. I want to hear about your first experience with a guy. right? Because it's not something you had ever done, but you did wind up hooking up with a guy a couple times. You said you would. Sometimes it happens. Like what did happen with the guy the time that, the first time that you did hook up and how did it go down? Oh, it was actually was another, just a guy we met off Tinder. Okay. He did say he was buys.

He did say he was by, so he figured we'd try it. Okay. So that's the first, you know, first time I gave a blowjob. But he didn't pan out because he, he stayed a soft noodle the whole time. So we end up down the road We found another guy That could keep it hard And yeah And that part I didn't mind

And she wasn't sure how she liked it And she's like holy fuck that was hot Wow Isn't that interesting I hear that all the time Like she didn't know how she'd feel about seeing you suck a cock Right? But when she did see it

She thought it was hot Yeah she loved it She sat back with a big She'd eat and grin on her face To the corner watching And what about for you? Like what was it like to, you know, suck a dick.

It kind of turned me on that to fact that she was loving it. Yeah, I got it. Did you swallow? Oh, I never got them that far, no. Oh, okay. Would you swallow? Have you ever swallowed it? I mean, I don't know.

It's not the only time you sucked a dick? No, a couple times, but never to finish. Just playing around, fooling around. But when we get to that scenario, I guess we'll find out. Let me just tell you. You're a guy, and you've probably made so many girls swallow your comm. I think you need to take one for the team, okay? The next time you need to fucking swallow.

I'm sure she'll probably make me anyway. Have you guys like given double blow jobs like you and her blowing a guy together? No, I don't. Actually, no, I don't think we have. Yeah, we haven't done that yet. That's something hot that some people that are into that kind of action, you know. Listen, some people like a guy like you, a guy that's maybe really not into guys, but like during the act or in the middle of like having sex would just kind of go there because it's hot and he's in the moment.

There's a lot of guys out there like that, you know, and a lot of people are like, oh, that means they're by or gay. It doesn't really mean anything. It just means that in the, when you're down and in the mood, you like might do it because it's like hot, right? Is that how you see yourself? Exactly. It is. It is just whatever happens happens. Like, I'm never opposed to anything.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's all about it. It's all about enjoying yourself and having a good time. Right. And so you don't like to say, oh, no, I can't go there. Like, it sounds like there's not a lot of boundaries, right? It sounds like you guys are pretty open and down to try a lot of things.

We're down to try anything once. Yeah, that's interesting. And now what's the difference between, you know, being with Tika, a woman who's so opposite of your last girl? I mean, what's your relationship like with her compared to your non, you know, your underwhelming vanilla marriage from before? Oh, this is the best relationship I've ever been in. Really? We have, well, we have the best time whether, no matter what it is what we're doing. Right, not just sexually is what you're saying.

Yeah, exactly. Our sex life is great. And then our relationship as friends is through the roof. Right. And listen, I think some of it has to do with the fact that you're so open in that area of your life. It leads to like a closeness because she's probably like the first woman that really like knows the real you like because you could totally be yourself with her. I am 100% a big clown and that's she allows me to be that way. Loads it. And were you able

to do that in your first marriage? Oh God, no. I was scared of my ex. Right. And if you ever sucked a dick in front of her, what would she have done? Probably have me arrested. Or if you asked her to fuck another guy and she found out you were Googling hot wife porn, she probably would have been like, oh my God, you're such a pervert. But this girl, Tika, loves it. Oh, yeah, no, my last, I actually asked me one time if I watched porn, and she says, only perverts and blah, blah, blah, watch porn. I was like, nope, I don't watch porn.

Oh, my God, like everybody watches porn. Exactly. Yeah, that's so funny. You're like, yeah, I don't watch porn. I actually watch way less porn now that I went through than when I was with anybody else. Yeah, isn't that interesting? You know why? Because you have your own porn.

porn star right there in front of you. That's what a lot of people explain. Yeah, that's what a lot of people who are into the hot wifing thing explain. They talk about how it's like watching their own porn star, right? It's like the instead of what, like, it's like they have their own porn in front of them. It's like what you used to watch on TV, but it's your girl reenacting it, right? So why would you need porn? That's right. I don't need it. I got her and we talk about it and like, let's do it. Yeah. And you guys have tried so many different things. Like what's, I know that hot wiping sounds like it's like your favorite thing. Do you love like your St. Andrew's Cross and all those like things that you have down in the

basement is the, is the swing that you love the best? Like, what do you like in that sex room of yours? I love, I, uh, getting her in the swing is actually really good. Right. I went until she breaks it and I got to fix it again. And I, you know what I've heard and I don't know. Like at first, wasn't it hard to figure out how to like fuck her on it? Like, because it's moving and stuff.

Like, isn't there like an art to it that you have? to figure out? Just to know, it was actually the first time was really easy. It just doesn't matter of the, out of the proper setting. I got an anchor to her ceiling on her room, and it just hangs really, and she hops in there and just gets the seats just to that right, and it's fucking wicked. Let me ask you this. Do any of your friends, like your regular friends outside of, like, you know, the people

that you've met in the Swinger community, like, do they know how freaky you guys are and know about this room in your house, or is this like a secret room? Oh, that's not a secret. I have a big mouth. Oh, you do? So you're open. To some of it. But yeah, no, I don't talk about it anymore, but yeah, I used to talk about a lot of work.

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Oh, you do? So you're open. To some of it. But yeah, no, I don't, I don't, talk about anymore, but yeah, I used to talk about a lot of work, and, uh, why not? I don't live life once, I'm gonna enjoy it. If you don't like it, your problem, not mine. Let me ask you this. Do you have kids

with your ex-wife? No. Oh, okay, so you're not tied to her at all anymore, and so it doesn't, she can't, like, if she found out what you do, it doesn't matter, right? Like, it can't fuck anything up. No, he can't. Right. Has she ever found out about, like, what you're doing now? She'd be horrified. Oh, well, I guarantee. She'd probably be secretly jealous, too, because she's so having no fun. Well, and that's how I met, Kena Tika, because I had had sex in over a year.

That's how I ended up on Tinder because I was like, I can only jerk off so much and I need an actual vagina. And that's how we met. Well, listen, you kind of like hit the jackpot with Tika, and now we want to talk to Tika because I know this was all her doing, you know. And I want to find out. Yeah, he is my gold mine. Yeah, you're really like, you're kind of like paid your. your dues, you know, you had that sexless marriage and now you're being paid off and you're having the best thing ever. So you wind up even, you know? Oh, I think it, I think it led to this,

really, like everything, every relationship, everything led to, you know, to find her vine and have been with her, I would never have found Pika. Yeah, no, I mean, it's, it's interesting. So it's like, it just goes to show that even if you're in this, like, really horrible situation, like, you know, sometimes, and I'm not saying it's always great to leave so when I get divorced, but a lot of times people do, because that's just, it's meant to be at that time and people split up, but a lot of times everyone's, like, happier because of it. And people, I talk to a lot of people who met, whether it's a second time or third time around, like met the person of their dreams and they're like so much happier than they've ever been. So it's like, it gives people hope, I think, out there

who are listening that might be trapped in a sexless marriage for 10 years. It's like, maybe it's time to get the fuck out because maybe you could find a Tika too. Look what happened to you. you know, it gives people hope, I think. Yeah, no, and exactly, yeah, I guess it was a stepping stone. I find everything was a stepping stone of one of those stones had been pulled away. We would probably never have met, and to me it led the path to finder. And like, not only does their sex life great, our relationship as a couple as friends and everything else is the best ever.

Yeah, and I love that word said in a relationship, like the friend's word. I think it's so important to be friends with your partner. because I think the biggest problem in a lot of toxic vanilla relationships that you see is the people aren't friends. They're actually like very against each other. It's kind of like tit for tat. You know what I mean? They're just not working on the same team.

And I think it's like so important to not just be in love with your partner, but really like them as a person and see them as a friend. And I think that that's the best foundation to have in a relationship, you know, for sure. So I love that you guys are great friends. Well, exactly, because that's like she's my best friend. Like she's just, if I got a problem, I don't bother. I don't need to hide it. I can come to her with it.

Yeah. And the same with her. If she's got a problem, like we, as what friends do, that's what you do with your, your buddy. So why can't you do it with the one you're actually having sexless? Yeah. And that's the way it should be. But a lot of people don't have that.

So I love that that's what you have. So let's talk to your best friend. I want to talk to Tika now. Thanks, Jeremy. Thanks for giving me half the time. Put Tika on. All right. All right.

Here's Tika. Thank you. Tika. Hi, Kathy. Your guy's so funny. He loves the hot wiping thing. He really hit the jackpot with you and he loves you. Well, I know he does.

So listen, Tika, let's go back because I still didn't get the sister story, which I want to gap. But like, you know, what about your past relationship? Were you married before him as well? Yeah, I was. Actually, I was married to my ex now for 23 years. So he's the father of my kids and stuff. And just kind of stuck around too for the kids' sake. pretty much what everybody else does, right?

It's sticking around for the kids and scared to leave because you don't know what's on the other side, I guess, right? So it took a long time for me to take that plunge. And when I did, I definitely separated from all that and it was the best decision I made. But let me ask you this in your marriage, a 23-year-old marriage. Did you, because it sounds like you're pretty freaky. You knew right off the bat you brought up to Jeremy. Oh, let's like, you know, fuck other people. Like, did you ever bring that stuff up in your first marriage or was it totally vanilla?

Well, it was somewhat vanilla. I guess we, towards the end I had my best friend, we kind of kind of played around with her a little bit. But that was just with her. But other than that, like, I did bring it up a couple of times. I was like, well, like sex should be sex and it should be fun. And this is kind of what I told Jeremy, too. And that's how this all came out of it. But, but yeah, my ex, he was way too controlling for forever to consider me being with somebody else or anything like that.

So the only opportunity that we had was bringing in another girl. and he pretty much abused that too. Like he never, never respected any of the boundaries or anything with it. So it was pretty short-lived. Yeah, you can't play with somebody like that. Yeah, that's terrible. He wasn't meant for this kind of lifestyle. But Jeremy was and is.

Okay, so take me to that time in. So you meet him. You're with him for about a year and you decide, like, I'm just going to throw it out to this guy and see how he reacts and he was down. Like, do you remember that first time that you brought it up with him? Yeah, I did. And I kind of mentioned it. I was like, well, how did you feel about this here?

I said, like, sex should be fun and, like, it shouldn't be so, so controlling or, like, you know what I mean? Like, it should be something that we could just have fun with, right? And he's like, well, what do you mean? And he never really considered the idea. And I was like, well, like, I mean, we can still respect each other and we can love each other and be loyal to each other. But why not have fun while we're doing it, right? And he kind of thought about it. I think he thought about it probably for a good month before we actually brought it up again.

And then he said, well, you want to talk more about this here? And we didn't know there was actually a community or other people that were doing it, right? I just thought, well, fuck, you hook up with your friend every once in a while or somebody you know. But he started looking into it. And he's like, oh, look, he's like, there's actually, I think Adult Friend Finder is what we had found. And he's like, there's actually people that are like swingers or whatever. And they have a group that you can join and we can talk to other people, right? And I was like, okay.

And as soon as we join that Adult Friend Finder, right? right away, like within a couple of days, we had this other couple messages back, and they were talking to us for a bit, and they're like, well, we do this camp out every year, and I think it was something like 180 people come to their farm, and they bring trailers and tents and whatever else, right? And then he's like, well, what do you think? Like, it was like a month away, and I was like, holy smoke, I was like, well, maybe let's try it out. Like, I, I didn't even think anything like that existed, but I was like, okay, well, let's give it a shot. So we took off for four days and

drove out there. And that's the thing about these campouts, too. I know you guys talked about it on the one confession thing, and it's not dirty and because we don't just camp, we glamp. Like, we have holiday trailers

that we haul around with showers and everybody's got showers in their house that people can use. So everybody's clean. We're not stinky and gross or anything like, all right. So I had to clear that up right away. But yeah, so we go out there and we already had like a group chat with all the people attending, and everybody was pretty excited to meet us,

and we're driving into this camp out, and there's people playing, what do they call it, games or whatever, like, they're playing games outside, and everybody's walking around naked, some've got some clothes on, some are fully clothes, and I was like, holy crap, like, this is cool, right? So we go get ourselves parked, and we're walking around, checking out the place, and, yeah, and, like, everybody's, like, friendly, and then come nighttime, like, there's people, like, kissing or kind of making out or swinging each other around the fire,

and then we start participating a little bit, and Jeremy's pretty good with his fingers, right? And he likes to brag about how he can make a girl squirt, and so he's making me do it in this chair, and over and over again, and then the girls start lining up, and they're like, well, I've never been able to do that. You can't make me do that.

And then he sits them down, and he starts doing it to these girls, and they're squirting all over the place. So then we've got a lineup of girls coming around trying to get him to do it, right? So he was kind of like a little bit of a show off, I guess, for his camp out because the girls all wanted a try at it. And I wouldn't say all of them, but there's probably a good five girls that came around for it. And he made every one of them square, which is nice, and his eagle was full.

And so that was that camp out there. And then I think within a month, we were invited to another camp out. And this one was 480 people attended this camp out. And then that's where we met more people, like from our time. town because everything's pretty spaced out around here. So we met more people that were closer to us. And they're still friends of ours until now. And that's where we do, like we do hotel parties with them or just get together at

our house and stuff. Or some of them have hot dogs and we get together at their place. And it's usually the same three, four different couples that we hook up with in that, like in this area. And you met them all at these campouts. First of all, I just got to tell you, Tika, you know, before we spoke, you were like, oh, I'm the worst storyteller. I need him on the phone.

No, he's the worst storyteller, okay? You're so much better than him. I know. I shouldn't have gotten him. When he tells that first camp story, he didn't even talk about him fingering and making all those girls squirt, okay? I know.

He's leaving out all the best stuff. And I got to remember that. You're just going on and on. You're doing so fucking good. I'm like, you're not the bad storyteller. He is. And I believe you. I thought like he's lying.

You know what I mean? He just didn't remember. He should be bragging about getting all those girls to scorn. work. But it sounds like anyway, you found so many of your friends at those first two campouts, right? Like that really was a great networking experience for you as far

as like getting into the lifestyle? The first camp out wasn't great. No, the first campo was just kind of like we test the water, right? And I kind of got into like the lifestyle environment or whatever just to feel it out. But the crowd was a lot older. Really no attractions were there

or nothing. So we just did our own thing. But then the second camp out was a lot better because there was more age. age groups and stuff like that more range so then we clicked with a lot more people and we did get into this one group of people that were really fun and like I said we still

have contact with them up till today and there we did participate a lot more and you fucked a lot of guys so why don't you talk about that he told you had like four guys at the campfire I don't know let's hear the story from you we would sit there watch some of them play

and then we would fuck on the side and then yeah I don't know Like it was, it was fun, or I was like, he would be playing and the girls would be sucking his dick kind of to get him distracted or whatever so that he wouldn't win. And so I'd do the same with the guys or whatever, right? So it was, I don't know, but we, I don't remember fucking too much there. Maybe.

He said you fucked four guys. Yeah, I probably did. But how was it? Let me ask you this, though, because this is like your first experience doing all of this stuff that it sounds like you always were kind of open to, right? and now you're doing it and you're doing it with the guy that you know you really care about and stuff how was it seeing him with a girl how was it fucking another guy in front of him like how how was it fucking in front of other people i was nervous the first time because i didn't want to screw up anything that we already had right like i think everybody feels the same way right like you just don't want to screw up something so good that you have you want to make sure that everybody's on the same boat and that everybody's comfortable so we did walk into it with a safe word and and just checking in on each other every once in a while to make sure that we're we're still on the same page and stuff. So it was a little nerve-wracking for me as how he was going to react,

but I knew that he was going to be okay with it because it's what he wanted. More I think I was worried about myself because I thought, well, if I'm going to do it, then I'm going to have to see him with a girl. And then I wasn't sure how I'm going to feel. Yeah, of course. And that's kind of where we're still at. Like, I don't love seeing him with girls. I don't mind it.

But I'm pretty select to the ones that I actually do feel comfortable with. So, like, our group of friends that we hang out with and that we participated a lot more, with those ones I am comfortable and I have like zero jealousy and and whatever else but there's other other girls like the new ones or the ones that are just random that we see everyone like just once or something those ones do leave a little bit of a better taste in my mouth so it's yeah and it's hard to explain I just I think I have to be a little bit more comfortable with that person that he's going to be with knowing that maybe they're not there to steal them away like you said there was like a little boundary crossing with your

ex with your friend, right? Is that what happened over there? Yeah. So maybe you have a... Yeah, and that could very well be... Yeah, you know, you got fucking burned, you know, in that exact situation. So it might be a little triggering for you.

But it's cool that you're trying it. And I think what's most important is to just like, my thing is like my favorite thing is like, know thyself and just be honest with where you're at and how you feel. You know, if that's where you're at and that's how you feel, that's where you're at and that's how you feel. Like, you can't change. that, right? But listen, you see him with other girls and there's plenty of girls you're not jealous of,

right? You do couple swaps. Oh, we do. And we always test it out. Like, if we find a new girl or something, we're like, okay, let's try it out. And if it didn't work, we don't bring her back. And then we talk about it and I just tell them what I didn't like about it or, or you know what, it made me feel uncomfortable or just, I wasn't into it. Then we leave it for a bit. And then we keep trying, right? Because it's not something that I do not want to ever do. It's just something that it's not my favorite. That's all it is. And I just, I can't really explain why, but we still do try it. What's your favorite? The guy thing, too? I love it. I do because I like the attention. I love the attention, right? And like, especially when I got two, three guys paying all that

attention to me. I love it. And I think any girl. And now, what about your DVP that you had? How did that happen? Well, that was with one of our regular couples. And they, they actually brought over, they have a regular one guy of theirs. So they're like, well, we're going to come over here. Like, should we bring him so that you guys can meet him too? We brought him down to our sex room downstairs. And so it was the couple and then the extra guy and then myself and Jeremy. And then he slips.

Was I riding? I think I was riding the other guy. And then I was riding Jeremy. And then the other guy slips him behind me. And I was like, oh, no, no, I don't do deep key or whatever. He's like, oh, no. He's like, I'm not going to do that. and then he keeps slipping in, and then he slipped into the DVP,

and I was like, oh, shit, and then I was going to pull away, and I was like, well, that actually feels pretty good. So we've done that a couple of times with that same couple, and it's pretty awesome, actually, which I didn't think I'd like, but I do. Yeah, oh, my God. And what's going down in your sex room? I hope you could send me a picture for my Patreon. Like, how long ago did you guys build that sex room?

Yeah. I think we started the sex room before we started this conversation, actually, about doing what we're doing right now because one, my oldest son moved out and left the room downstairs in the basement and Jeremy's like, well, we should turn that into an argument for the girls, he says, and then whatever. And I was like thinking about it. I was like, well, that'd be fine. I said, but how about we do this and do it? And I started planning the sex room, but I wanted a red room and I've got, like, everything's painted red, and then I've got some black and gold wallpaper on one side and now I was like okay well let's look for a bed and I got like this black

leather platform bed for in there and and it was it actually got built all around the idea of a swing because I've always wanted the swings so that that whole room was built around the swing so he bought the swing and then he ended up getting a st. Andrew's cloth and then all the other little gadgets so we've got it fully decorated everything hanging on the walls and we've got a TV up on the ceiling and mirrors up on the ceiling on the walls and and then he went and bought us Subtian, too, so that's part downstairs, too. We've got pretty much everything you can think of down there. We just need the horse.

I can't remember what that one's called, but it's like the riding horse thing. Oh, my God. That's the only one that I'm missing that I still want. But we're running out of room in there, so we were talking about extending the room, maybe sometimes, because it's getting pretty cramped. People must have so much fun when you invite them over. Like, you're the couple to, they probably love coming over to your house with that room down there. Tell me about the two sisters that you picked up.

Well, we went to the bar here. There's just like a country, well, I don't know, live country bar or something like that. And we ended up sitting just up in the front row there where they had live music and we ended up meeting these two girls and happened to be sisters. One of them, it was her birthday. So we ended up drinking with them there. And then we met this other guy.

And we had rented a hotel with a jacuzzi. So we ended up shutting down the bar and we were like, well, let's all go back to the room or whatever. We got a jacuzzi. So we took the two sisters, the other guy we met at the bar, and then we invited, we had a regular two that we'd bring over every once in a while when we'd call him. He'd always come over.

So we called him over to the hotel. So we had two guys, the two girls and ourselves, and we brought them back to the hotel room and ended up having fun with these people there. It was a pretty fun-filled night. And we brought our toys and all that to the room. They stole them. these two girls ended up getting in a fight. They ended up getting in a fight and disappeared that night,

and they took off with their sex toys. Like I had a $2,300 vibrator and butt plug, and we ended up looking for it later that night after they left because we ended up staying just Jeremy, myself, and the two guys, we ended up staying for the rest of the night. And I was like, okay, well, let's do this butt plug again, and the butt plug's gone. And we go looking for the vibrator, and it's gone.

And I was like, look, that butt plug was, like, just in my ass before they left. So it probably just sat on the counter and they ran off with it. So yeah, we ended up losing quite a bit of our sex toys that night to these girls. But it was fun until it was. And I think they were just maybe a little too intoxicated. Was there a whole big orgy that took place before their fight? Like, who fucked too in that situation?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, well, between the two girls, like we kind of all took turns, right? So it was, yeah, just an orgy, I guess, because we were all kind of fooling around with each other that night. And you're down with hooking up with girls, too? I am, yeah. I'm just, probably curious. I'm not really biased.

It's not my favorite thing, and I think I'm just more self-conscious about it because I really don't know how to please a girl proper, and I get in my head over it, but I do enjoy it. Right. It's okay. But did those two sisters just like fuck all the guys in the room? Oh, yeah. They didn't hook up with each other.

They just hooked up with everybody else. No. Right. And listen, I think shit goes down with alcohol. You know what I mean? It does. And I think, well, one of them ended up leaving with my clothes. So I ended up having to contact one of the girls the next day in the morning.

And they're like, oh, like, we just feel really bad. Hopefully we don't ever have to talk about this again. So they were a little, like a little moral hangover in the morning, I guess they had. But that was on them. We had a pretty good time. And so you have a bunch of couples you hook up. But do you have, like, single bulls, like guys that you just see two? Well, no.

We had one. And then he couldn't get hard anymore, I think, the last few times that we invited him over. And then we just kept trying. And then at one point, we were just like, we got to let him go. So we don't really have that. The other couple that we usually hook up with, they've got a bowl, and they offer them to us all the time. We just haven't brought him over just for ourselves. He usually comes up.

But the offer's there because he gave us his number two. He's like, I just call me any time. He's like, just giving me some notice. And he's like, I'd love to come and hang out. So we've got that. But it's mostly couples, I think. And then the guys that we meet, the singles, they're usually off of Tinder. Because we've tried the swingers fights and stuff like that.

But we live in a pretty small area. So it's pretty hard to find people like that. So Tinder, I find it's usually. Yeah, especially if you're looking for single guys. So let me ask you a question, though, about your guy, like the guy and guy action thing. Because that was super interesting because, you know, he said that you had said, like, you didn't know how you'd feel, right, seeing him, like, hug him. up with a guy, you know, how was that experience when he was with the guy? And you saw it the first time.

Okay. When we first talked about it, because we did talk about it before any of it ever happened. And I wasn't really okay with it. More, I told him I'd rather see a guy suck your dick than to see you suck a guy off. And I'd rather see you fuck a guy than to see you getting fucked. Just because in my head, I feel like it just, it puts him like in a smaller spot. Like he's, I don't know, to me, like maybe less of a man or something, right? Like, I just, I want to keep him as my manly man, right? And I just felt like if he did this here, it would make me feel different. But then the, I don't know, then the opportunity came. And I was the one that I would tell him, like, fuck his dick, baby. And I want to see it, and I'd sit back and watch, right? And then it was super hot. Like, I ended up enjoying it quite a

bit. And which I didn't think I would. I thought that I would enjoy the other way around better. So, yeah, I definitely like it. That's super interesting and very, I love how honest you were about that. You know, I did a poll on my Patreon the other day. Like, just be honest. Like, do you feel like if a guy likes a suck of a dick? Do you see him as less of a man, quote unquote, you know? And it's, and I wanted people to be, like, honest, because I think there is that kind of stigma and some people, without even realizing it, that's just the way that they would think. Like you said, you just thought that way. You don't know why you thought that way, but that's just what you thought you felt, right? But when you actually saw it, you realize that wasn't how you felt. Like, when you saw him suck a dick, like, he wasn't

any less of a man to you, correct? No, no, absolutely. Yeah, and it's kind of crazy, don't you think? Well, it is, and then I look at it the same way. Like, would he think that I'm, like, a lesbian because I went down on a girl? And, like, there's some stigma behind it that I just don't understand, right? People get in each other's head and then, but when you actually see it, it has nothing to do with that. Like, again, we're going back to the same what started at all, like sex is sex.

And if it's fucking feels good or it feels good for me to watch and then why would I put a stigma on it, though, right? Like, it does feel good. I love that. I love that. And listen, what's cool about you guys is and even your guy doing the guy on guy thing, right? Like, is that you're, you're kind of open. As much as you might have felt like you were going to feel that way, you still allowed it to happen. You didn't shut it down. And what's great and what's interesting, and I've heard this so many times before from women. Their guy brought up that they were into guys and they were nervous that they would see them as less of a man. And then what turns out is that they just, they actually realized it was like super hot, you know, in the moment. So I. I love that you were, even though you didn't think you'd like it, you were open to it, you tried it because, look, you had like the opposite experience. Well, it is, and I'm open, and that's what I tell him. Like, I want to be open to pretty much everything, not the gross stuff or anything, but I do want to try it all.

And, like, if we didn't like it or it didn't work out for us, then it's just something we take off the table, right? But I don't want to put something down because it doesn't sound good. But, I mean, unless we try it, I do want to try it all. What's on your bucket list? And then if we don't like it, we just take it off the table. Because you've done DVP. You don't want to do DP.

It sounds like you've had a lot of guys one night. Have you ever had it like a gangbang fantasy? Yeah. You sounds like you've been in orgies. You've done couple swaps. Like what is, what is something that you want to do that's left? Or tell me your hottest experience.

I don't know. Let's end with something like that. I don't know if there's anything left on our list. Like I've even gang bang. I don't know how many men abroad. That would probably be it. But I've had, what, three different guys at the same time. That's a little bit of a gang bang.

Yeah, I think it's a gang bang. It's a mini gang bang. Yeah. Yeah, so I don't know what's less on our list because, like I said, when we started, like we dove in headfirst. Like, we didn't like, oh, we're just going to really watch and kind of test the water and do this for a year or two and see where we're at. No, we just went straight in and we've pretty much done it all in the first year.

Like, I think we've done less in the last six months because it's gotten kind of busy, but everything that we've done, we've done it pretty much in the first year. Right, like you tried it all. Like you tried at all. What was your hottest experience? Like, what do you like the best, like for you? Like, what stands out as of now? Oh, God.

And he's sitting here listening to me, too. It's the guys. Like, it's the multiple guys. Right, that attention. You love that. Listen, he loves it too. So I think it's like you're perfectly paired. Yeah.

You know. Well, I know, but he's always pushing for it. He's like every weekend. He's like, oh, he's going to rent the hotel room. He's like, let's see how many guys we can get. Except you can't get guys, right? because you like I've heard on your show a million times. You invite 10 of them.

Yeah, that's hard. You need a gang bang co-orbinator. Listen, I just had Doc Chocolate on. Oh, you'll never find that. You got to find that. There's guys that do that. I'm telling you. And they live in the weirdest places.

Oh, I know in big cities. We live in a pretty small place. Like, we're not going to find it here. Yeah, but can you drive an hour for it away? Like, are you an hour away from a big city? No, we're not. Oh, where the fuck do you live? Well, from a bigger city here.

And it's still not that big. Yeah. And they don't have much. They've got two clubs right now, two swingers clubs. And we've drove down there. And that's the least that we do is when we go to the city. It's nothing ever asked. When we go to a swingers club.

We have better luck here. Wow. Well, listen, you, now I know why you created your own sex room in your house because you're in the middle of fucking airway. You need that sex room. You got it going on. You guys can start just hosting your own things, you know, downstairs. Yeah, if you want a gangbent,

you got to invite like 20 guys and you got to find. I think it's, it is harder, I guess, for you because you're in such a small area. But listen, it sounds like you guys have done pretty well in the first year and a half. Let me ask you the question that I asked him. Like, how is your relationship with Jeremy different than that 23 year relationship you have with your husband? What's the difference between having a monogamous relationship to non-monogamous? I don't even think there's anything to do. Well, like the monogamy, I guess.

like it's just that we trust each other so much. And this is what's opened up our relationship, even more, to trust each other is being able to do these kinds of things because I think that we get to talk more about everything because of it, right? And we don't have to hide about wanting certain things or having to go look for certain things in our, like in our sex life because we can talk about it and we can make it happen, right? There's no, nothing's missing.

And we are, we're the best of friends because we can talk about everything together. Yeah, listen, this was a guy that was like secretly. watching porn, his wife didn't know. Now he said he never has to watch porn because he's like living out all that shit he was Googling on Porn Hub with you. You know what I mean? Well, the same for me because like in my last relationship, I was masturbating two, three times of the day, sometimes every single day.

And then my ex did want to have sex, but I just didn't want to have sex with him. There was just no love, no attraction, no connection. So I would just be like, oh, no, I got a headache. And then I just go to my room and fucking... Right, with dirty thoughts. So I wait for him to leave the house and then I do it. Yeah, so it was just better for me that way. And right now, like, I barely ever get to use my toys unless he's using him on me.

So that's the best part. Yeah, yeah. And I do think it's like what you said. I do think having that openness in your sex life translate to being to being closer in other areas of your life because it does lead to better communication because you do have to over communicate and you're talking so much, you know. And there is. I think something about like revealing all these sides of yourself to somebody that makes you feel

closer because I feel like, you know, a lot of times, even in very long-term relationships, people are keeping big parts of themselves, especially the, like, their fantasies and stuff, you know, that parts of themselves hidden from their partners because they're afraid their partners will think they're gross or perverted or whatever, you know? And I think when you really are able to just put it all out there with your, I think it brings you close. Because like that person really knows you and loves you for all of you. That's a part of you. Well, and you know what's crazy is that I like I've had friendships throughout well,

like throughout my entire life and I think other couples in the lifestyle in the last couple of years their relationships are like nothing I've ever seen before. Like these people have been in the lifestyle. Some of them 10, some 20 years, some of them 40 years. They've been in the lifestyle and they have the closest relationships I've ever encountered in my entire life. Like, they are more in love than ever, and they are just open to each other, and like they're always loving and stuff like that, stuff that fades away on everybody else within the first five years. These people have it after this amount of time. And being in the lifestyle

like this here, it's crazy to think, but I've never seen relationships more tight than what I've seen in the last couple of years. Totally. I was out with a friend today for lunch, and I was like, trying to explain to him about my show. I'm like, listen, like, I'm, like, my show isn't about trying to tell everybody out there that this is what everybody should do. I know that like non-monogamy and Swinger, the Swinger world and all this stuff isn't for everybody, right? But what I'm here to say and what I believe my show says to people is that, you know, not like if you do do this, like it can actually work. And not only can it work, like the people that I talk to that it works for like they have the best relationships ever, like what you just said. Better than a lot of vanilla relationships out of

there. And I think that's what people don't get. And that's what pisses me off. The people out there that think like, oh, the minute you open up your relationship, it's doomed for failure. It's like, actually it's not. And you could believe that if you want, but I've talked to thousands of people at this point. And that's not fucking true. And like you guys even see it in your life. Like you've seen people couples are 40 years, 20 years down the line. If it hasn't, you know, ended now, it's not gonna. It's only brought them closer. And I think that that's like an important statement. Like I said, it doesn't mean that it's for everybody. But it's also not something that's doomed for failure. And actually when it works, it brings people closer. I love the question of like how

how is your relationship now. And typically people say what you say. Like I feel closer to him because we are so open with each other. You know, in every area. Like your guy was very like really specified. Like it's not just with sex that I feel closer with her. It's with every area. She's my best friend. Like I feel closer to her with everything, not just sexually. Yeah, but one fact is like some of my vanilla friends will say, well, maybe this is what we should do. And the. And the fact is is that it doesn't fix the relationship because I have some friends that are in bad relationships or they're

fighting or they're in sexless relationships and they're like well maybe this is what we should do. That is not, it's not to fix a relationship. You've got to be so healthy in your relationship before you can open up and do something like this here because it won't fix anything. It'll destroy it. So if you already have a healthy relationship

and you want to move on to this step then I would say yeah, go ahead and do it but some people are like oh like I wish I could do this but then they're fighting with their with their spouse almost every day or they hate each other, then that's, it's never going to work. Like, it only works for the people that are already doing really well and that are able to open up to do something like this year. But it won't.

Yeah, no, because there has to be so much trust and so much communication. And unfortunately, for people that are having issues in the relationship, it's because they don't have trust and they don't have good communication. And that's like the foundation to doing this kind of relationship successfully. You know what I mean? Like, that's what you need. that's why it didn't work with your first husband, you know, like, and when you hear shit like that, you're like, you got to be kidding me. Like, your girl gave you a free pass to fuck another girl and you

weren't up and up about it. Like, it's so stupid, right? Like, you had, like, she handled, handed you gold and you fucked it up. But you see that happen all the time, you know? So it's like, that's a person that's not ready for it, you know, but Jeremy was ready and you guys are living your best life. And you need to send me in pictures, not only like I, you know, people always send me in pictures for my Patreon, like the hot picks, like R-rated picks for my Patreon members. But, you know, What I really want of you and like of your guy if you want. But what I really want is a picture of your sex room. Okay.

Like I need a picture of that from my Patreon. And then I also will give you free access to my Patreon to see the comments. And I will also give you free access to my Discord. You could have fun there. Maybe you'll meet some people in your area. You never know. There's over 5,000 people on my Discord now. And I'll give you free access in there.

And there's a whole pussy pick contest going on right now. There's a dick pick contest. There's all kinds of shit going down there. And there's a guest channel and you could post stuff there if you want to. I know you guys are exhibitionist, so there's, you know, if you want to get involved over there, you will. I will give you free access to it. Send me your stuff sooner than later, like right away, okay? Okay, what kind of pictures?

Do you want pictures? Yeah, but anonymous. Like, nobody shows your face. You know what I mean? Like, listen, for, like for Patreon, like girls will typically send, like, lingerie shots or a picking a bikini. You know, like, I don't know, nothing X-rated, like, if for my Patreon, that's what people, if you have stuff like that, like, you know, stuff that you'd post on like a, a dating site or something. but nothing like no pussy shots or anything like that. You could post whatever you want on Discord yourself.

Like I don't get involved in the Discord. But for my Patreon, everything is R-rated and people typically over there post. Like the girls always send me in hot picks of themselves and like lingerie and stuff, you know. But no faces. Like everything's anonymous, okay? And send it here. You could send it me through WhatsApp or, you know, send it to me through WhatsApp if you want. But send it today if you can or tomorrow.

And a picture of that sex room, okay? because I want to put a picture of that. That'll be fun. Okay. And I'll send you all the free links, okay? So you'll be able to see what people post. All right. Awesome.

Thanks you guys for calling in. Okay. Thanks, Tika. And Jeremy. Bye. Okay. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book,

it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not going to be out until August. 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story.

Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it. like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format. And finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th. But you can, could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay, there's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have

lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com.

And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. Bye, Kathy. Okay, I just want to tell you that I do. I have a book coming out, and it's called Strictly Anonymous Confessions, the Secret Lives of Total Strangers. I picked like 17 of the best episodes. That was actually hard to do because I have over a thousand episodes. And I retold them all in third person.

So it's a little bit more erotica, but it's still like real life stories. If you like secret lives of Mormon wives, this is like this. secret lives of real fucking people's wives, okay? There's a lot of people out there that are doing some crazy things and you get to read about them in my book. Now, it is up for pre-order. It's not out until October 14th. So what I'm offering you as an incentive to get my book is free access to my Discord. If you pre-order my book on Amazon or anywhere, if you send me a pick of your pre-order, I will send you a free link to get into my Discord. Now, my Discord is super fun. There are so many different channels there with so many pictures and videos. All of my listeners are over there.

There's thousands of people signed up. There's a pussy pick contest that's going down right now. If you want to join that contest, you went 100 bucks, put up a pussy pick of your partner or of yourself, or just join and see all the pussy picks. There's so many other things to see, though, on my Discord. People are literally hooking up over there. So it's a really good deal. So if you want to get in by pre-ordering my book, go to the link in the description or Google, strictly anonymous confessions book you're going to find it purchase it pre-order it send me a pick email it to me at strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com that's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com and i will send you the free link to my discord anyway thanks so much for listening