Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 113 - Craven is Craving Anal Action and a Whole lot More

Episode Date: February 15, 2016

Craven wants his wife to screw him in the ass but she's totally not into and he calls in wondering if there's anything he can do to change her mind. Besides getting screwed in the ass, Craven is ...also into wearing panties, visiting dominatrixes, fisting and he recently started to fantasize about being with guys. Tune in to hear about his most recent visit to a dominatrix, how and when he got so into anal, his happy ending experiences and a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. Craigslist is definitely the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore or Thailand. You can't not do it. The temptation is just too much.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Real problem. Does your friend know that you're banging her? No, he has no idea. And anything goes. The motto of the show, let your reflect lie. Probably the only good advice I'll ever give you is to re-hide your whips and change. Here are your hosts. Kathy Kay and Tommy.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Hey, welcome to Strictly Anonymous podcast with Kathy. If you want to follow the show on Twitter, follow the show at Strict Anonymous, or follow me at Cartoon Therapy. You can like my Facebook fan page. I think somebody did this week. I think I have 45 likes. Big. That's a big number right now.
Starting point is 00:00:48 I don't really do the whole Facebook thing. I just don't, I don't know. I'm not really good at that kind of stuff. Most of my listeners know I just had a baby, so it's just like hard for me to post shit all the time about, I don't know, about my podcast. podcast, but I love doing my podcast. This is a show where I give advice to total strangers that I find online. And Craigslist, like I say in my intro is like the gift that keeps on giving. I started out my podcast by accident, really, posting an ad on Craigslist looking for people that
Starting point is 00:01:17 are looking for advice because I like helping people with their problems. And I didn't want anyone to know that I had this show. So I posted on Craigslist. And then I just got the most interesting people emailing me. So that's where I go. I post ads on Craigslist and people. respond to me or sometimes I go looking for people that are looking for advice on Craigslist. And I send them an email as if they want to be on the show. And most of the time they write back intrigued and they come on. So sometimes it's somebody that's looking for advice. Sometimes it's someone that's just sort of looking to spill their dirty laundry.
Starting point is 00:01:50 But I've got to say 100% of the time, I always get emails from my listeners. I mean, not for my listeners, for my callers. And they are always super happy that they called in. There's something about, you know, revealing stuff to somebody totally and being totally honest while remaining totally anonymous. That makes people feel really good. So sometimes it's making people feel good because I'm giving them advice. It's unprofessional advice, but I've been told it's good advice and I think I give good
Starting point is 00:02:21 advice. Or sometimes it's just somebody that doesn't need advice and they're just, like I said, talking about their secret lives and they always benefit. because it feels good for them to be completely honest. And since I mean, I don't know who. I mean, I make my callers anonymous. I don't even know who they are. It's not, I try to get them to give me as little information as possible
Starting point is 00:02:43 before I get on the call because that's how I get my content. And so today I have a guy on the call named Craven. That's his name, Craven, Morehead, okay? A lot of times I fuck with people's voices and I always forget to say that in the intro. and then you might be like what the fuck's wrong with his voice but you know sometimes i do that because people request that craven requested that so his voice is going to be a little bit off or different um but he wrote in because he or i looked at his ad i think uh he was looking for advice of how to get his woman into anal toys he's into anal action he's really looking for his wife to like fuck him in the
Starting point is 00:03:21 ass um and he was looking for advice of how to get her into it um and so i asked him if you want to be on the show and he said yeah and let me tell you the podcast minds of to be a lot about a lot more than that. What's most interesting about Craven is, and I find this with a lot of guys on my podcast, is like everyone's idea or definition of cheating and how they sort of frame that in their mind is very different. Craven's definition is as interesting as all my other guests on the show.
Starting point is 00:03:52 He is married. He likes anal action. His wife's not interested in giving it to him. So he has gone, elsewhere. And it's pretty interesting. He's got, it's like a fetish of his. I don't even know if you call it a fetish. But he gets like hardcore into the hardcore things that he's into. Does that make sense? Anyway, so I'm just going to be right back on with Craven. Do you have a story, lifestyle, or situation you can't talk about to anyone, to anyone?
Starting point is 00:04:24 Or do you just want to let your freak flag fly and be on the show? Well, Strictly Anonymous wants to hear from you. Send us an email, Strictly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com with your story and your anonymous name. And remember, everything is strictly anonymous. Strictly anonymous. Hey, Craven.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Welcome to a strictly anonymous podcast. You're on the phone with Kathy. How are you? Great. How are you? I'm good. So I have emailed so many people, and I have so many people scheduled to tape a podcast today, and I forget which one you are.
Starting point is 00:05:03 What I think I remember by your email was that you were looking for advice because you're married and you like toys like in your ass, right? And you were looking for advice of like maybe how to sort of get your wife into it or how to let her know that that's what you're into. Is that correct? That is correct. Okay, cool. And so now let me ask you a first bunch of questions because there wasn't much. in your ad, right?
Starting point is 00:05:31 How long you've been married for? Oh, we're pushing 11 years. 11 years. And now this is something that you do totally, like, on the side, like she has no idea. Like, are your toys hidden? Do you use her toys? Do you buy stuff on the down low?
Starting point is 00:05:46 Yes, yes, and yes. So the toys that we have, we rarely play together with them. So she's not a big fan of insertible toys. Other than, like, Enla balls, she prefers, my dick more than all anything. But so I use those toys, then I have my own stash of toys as well. That she doesn't know about? To my knowledge, I don't think she knows about.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I always like to know, because I have a lot of guys that lead double lives or do things on the download. And I always like to know the hiding spot for these things that you're hiding. Where do you have those toys that you don't think she knows about? Like, where are they hidden in your house and your car? Yeah, they're in the house. They're in a suitcase that I have under the bed. Oh, God. They're not that hidden.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Yeah, I was going to say. She wanted to snoop she would find them. Right. So you don't really care if she finds them. No. Right. And now, is that a way of you, like, maybe, like, so how long have you been into Ask Play yourself?
Starting point is 00:06:47 Oh, for years. Like, for as long as you can remember, was it something that, like, when you were jerking off as a little kid that you, like, got into? Or is it something that you got into with a girlfriend in the past? yes, started as a kid and had a girlfriend before that, you know, you know, just more so a little bit of play like that, nothing much, and then just my own self. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:12 So when you were younger, what kind of, like, when did you start to figure out, like, oh, I like things in my ass? And, like, when did you, and what would you use? Like, would you just use stuff around your house? Or were you old enough to, like, go out and buy toys? Like, what did you do? I would just use fingers. and just random stuff around the house.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Right. And how old were you about? Do you recall? Teen's age, you know. When you first, when you start discovering yourself. Yeah, you know, I taped a podcast with a guy the other day,
Starting point is 00:07:43 and I'm not a guy, and I have yet to ask my guy friends this question. I'm just going to ask you. Because this guy hadn't jerked off, right, until he was like 16 or something, like really old, right? And I thought, like, oh, that's like super old. And he, you know, and I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:07:56 Don't guys sort of figure out that they could jerk themselves off and get off like at a way younger age? How old were you when you first started jerking off? Oh, early teens. Early teens? So you're talking 15? Yeah, so the guy's lying. So there's two kinds of guys in this world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Those that say they jerk off and then those that lie about in that they don't jerk off. No, no. He said he just, he never, no, he's totally jerks off. He said he didn't figure it out until he was 15. but you're saying you didn't figure out that you could jerk off until you were in your teenage years too. You didn't do it at like 7, 8, 9, 10.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Early, early teens, you know, tween age like that. What does that mean? Like 11? 11, 12, you know, when you start figuring out your shit works. Right, right, totally. No, this was a guy, I got to tell you. He was a little bit similar, but much more hardcore than you.
Starting point is 00:08:49 He really more preferred anal play, and he figured that out at a very young, age and he didn't really even know to jerk himself off. He was more into anal stuff with himself as far as pleasing himself when he was younger before he even realized that he could like jerk off and calm and make himself calm. And that's what I thought was like a little bit odd. Because I'm just like, don't you guys know that like your dick gets hard and if like you rub up against it like you could actually come. I'm like, why do it? You know, you have to be like he was like 15 when he figured that out. So anyway, anyway, that was like not about you. It was about him.
Starting point is 00:09:24 but so you started jerking off at like a normal age and then you just figured out oh i like a finger in my ass like that just happened yeah yeah yeah i think yeah listen i'm a three-in-a-girl and i just think like okay how much different is my asshole from a guy's asshole right i think it's kind of similar and i always find it kind of odd when i meet guys in most men are like this that are so anti any kind of anal play right because there's so many nerve endings there and i feel like if it feels good to me and it good to millions of gay guys. Like, why wouldn't it feel good to heterosexual guys? You know what I mean? Like, I don't get it. I don't know. I sometimes think. Yeah, that's what I think. I think it's a block that they have that. Oh, if I like something in my ass, it means I'm gay, which is so stupid because lesbians go down on each other. So does
Starting point is 00:10:10 that make me gay if I like a guy to go down? You know what I mean? It doesn't really make any sense, but I think guys have a stigma, like you say attached. So you had no stigma. You put an ass up yourself, a finger up your ass and you liked it. And then now, how old were you? How old were you? you when you first, now let me ask you this, are you buy at all or just strictly anal stuff is like you want to do like with a woman? Have you ever, is it something that you would be into doing with a guy? I'm curious right now. You are. And did that, is that something that just started? Yeah, as a late, as of late, within about the past year or so. Really? So your whole life, you've been totally heterosexual. Even though you've liked things in your ass,
Starting point is 00:10:50 you never sort of thought of guys and just recently you started to think of them? correct that's interesting I would think that that kind of curiosity would start at a young age as well but it didn't I mean this is why I do my podcast because it's just like it never I never like I'm
Starting point is 00:11:06 always surprised actually of what I learned from people you know it's so different so you didn't feel that way until recently about a year ago you started to sort of fantasize about maybe getting fucked in the ass or just like fling around with a guy like and maybe getting a blow job or
Starting point is 00:11:21 yeah that and you know wife has a fantasy of two two guys she does yeah oh okay I'm
Starting point is 00:11:33 I for Christmas I gave her a a note saying here's a here's a here's a pass for three some that you'll never follow through with
Starting point is 00:11:42 why do you think she'll know did you put that on the past that you're never going to fall through you want her to follow through why do you think she's never going to fall through with it she it's a work in progress She was, you know, she's very, I wouldn't say she was conservative, but she's just reticent right now.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Yeah, well, listen, I mean, the fact that she admitted to you that she's into having a threesome with two guys. Now, when she says she wants to have a threesome, does she want to get fucked by both guys, or is it that she wants to see you with a guy or all of the above? It is that she wants the pleasure. So she wants to be with two guys at once. And now you're the type of guy because there's two different types of guys. You know, some guys would never want to see their girl get it on with another guy. Some guys would be completely turned on by that.
Starting point is 00:12:30 I learned that on my podcast. I have so many guys on my podcast that have watched their wife, fuck other guys, are really interested in having their wives fuck other guys. Is that something that would turn you on? That would. That would. I truly feel that it would be awesome to do. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Now, does she know, though, that you would kind of be, open to getting it on with the guy? No. No. Right. And that's what you're on. Now, let me ask you this, because sometimes I think people, and other guys have copped to this, that they put ads on Craigslist, kind of like looking for advice, but maybe also looking for a hookup, right? Are you strictly on there saying, hey, I like anal play and I'm looking for somebody to talk to about that? Are you maybe hoping to get like a gay guy maybe on there that would start talking to you
Starting point is 00:13:20 and then maybe you're, you know, you would get to know him and hug up with him or even with a woman that was into that. Is that what you're looking for? Are you just looking for straight up advice with that ad? Just advice. You swear? Swear. Okay. So, and now have you got advice?
Starting point is 00:13:38 Like, what kind of people email you back? Just some other people, you know, have curious about it as well. And, you know, those mostly last maybe two emails back. and forth and that's it. Right. Of course, that's what I would think. I would think, though, that, you know, a lot of people are on there looking for, like, hookups or they're looking for something maybe that will go a little bit further.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Like, maybe you're going to email with each other, but then it would turn into something sexual, even if it's some kind of virtual sexting or something like that, right? Now, do you get guys that email you mostly or women? Mostly guys respond. That's what I would figure. Right. It's mostly guys on Craigslist. And now that's cool.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Like, you've gotten to talk to guys on. there and they've given you advice. Have it been other straight guys like you who have done it with their wife or guys like you that are in the same predicament words they like it but it's kind of on the down low. Some guys they say
Starting point is 00:14:34 they'll respond that yeah they're into it every now and then the wife does this or that and you know or the wife loves anal and she loves it she'll go ahead and you know play finger him or rim him and stuff like that so that's how
Starting point is 00:14:50 goes. Right. You know, I'm for, for me, I absolutely love rimming. You, for you or to do it? Because I know you said your wife is like the most anal action she's really into is like she'll let you rim her, right? When you say you're into rimming, is it you like to give and receive? I've never received. I love to give, love to give. Right. And now with the other girl, you said there was a girl who you dated, I'm assuming, when you were younger that she maybe put a finger up your ass and like you did like that girl she didn't rim you as well no no in all of your years let me ask you this how old were you when you got how old are you now 42 and how old were you when you got married so you're married to her for like 16 years is that
Starting point is 00:15:37 what you said 11 oh 11 so how many women i mean can you count on your two hands like how many women you've been with or have you been with like a lot i've been my fair share a lot of them were just hit it and quit it and just that's it. And no rim jobs from any girls, even though they knew. I mean, how many girls were you open about that you were into like anal stuff? None. Not other than giving. Really? None.
Starting point is 00:16:06 You never were able to say to like some girl that you're with like, hey, like put your finger in my ass or like, you know, I don't know. No? No. No. The wife I told her I wanted to peg me. They got the perfect gildo. Works out great. So you told the wife, I want you to fuck me the ass, and what does she say?
Starting point is 00:16:24 She's like, no, it'll never happen. Why not? Like, honestly, like, why not? Like, after all these years, after 11 years. I can't get that out of work. That's the past. You should have given her the past. You said, I give you this pass to have a threesome if you fuck me in the ass with that dildo.
Starting point is 00:16:38 She won't even do you with that favor, like, just for you? I haven't even, I mean, I've even put the strap on on and then fucked her with it. Right. You fucked her with the strap on. Yeah. In her ass? It's larger than, not in her butt, no. Right. I've had a finger or two up there and definitely a tongue every now and then, but, you know, nothing, nothing has entered her.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Right. And now she obviously knows about the fact that you're into anal because you've asked her to fuck you in the ass. Have you asked her to rim you and she says no? I don't even get blow jobs. What do you mean you don't get blow jobs? Exactly Wait, and she obviously was this for How long did you date her?
Starting point is 00:17:26 We've been together for 11 years And, you know, we're not married But we have a child Right So we've been to get them for quite some time Right, so she Wait a second So she never gave you a blowjob ever
Starting point is 00:17:41 Or she did and she's not No, I just don't get them now Oh, okay, you don't get them anymore Every now and then You know, she'll get me hard with her mouth, which is fine. But I want I want one from beginning to end.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Do you tell her that? I'm assuming you do. And what does she say? No, thanks. We've even made bets and we're like, okay. You know, you're the loser of the bet. And? Oral to completion.
Starting point is 00:18:07 She doesn't pay up? No, none. Wow. Nothing. And let me ask you this. Have you ever cheated on your wife? No. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:17 I was assuming that you'd say that. think sometimes like because some women like I feel like there's I feel like what a woman knows that a man doesn't cheat she's much more likely to just be like oh no thanks like I'm not doing this or I'm not doing that right because she just knows for fact that she's got you sort of wrapped around her finger you're not going to go anywhere else right like I don't know because I would say that there's other women out there right that are with a guy that maybe they're not so trustworthy or they just know how guys are, right? You're not this kind of guy, not let every guy is, but they would, you know, think that it would
Starting point is 00:18:53 be smart to maybe if their guy really wants a blow job, you know, to do it just for the guy so that he doesn't go off and go get that someplace else, right? Right, right. I mean, you're... I have gone, I've gone to... Happy ending. Yeah. So she doesn't know that, right?
Starting point is 00:19:12 No. Do they, well, they'll blow you, won't they? So what? They'll blow you too, right? Never, never had it. It's interesting what people think is cheating. It's interesting when I ask certain questions and people answer because everyone has things framed differently in their mind, right? Like, I just asked you if you cheated on your wife and you said no.
Starting point is 00:19:34 But then you see you get happy endings. And so for you, you don't see that as cheating. And like, listen, I don't necessarily either. Like, I mean, I think like if I had a guy that I was with for 11 years and the worst thing he was, he was doing was going and getting happy endings, I would be like, fucking fine. You know what I mean? It's way better than having like a woman from his office that he's screwing in the car every now and then. You know what I mean? Like, who cares? Right. But I just think it's, so you, I just think it's interesting how people sort of make different rules for themselves. And that's how I think it goes, right?
Starting point is 00:20:06 You, you decide what's cheating and what's not. So for you, you don't consider that cheating. Correct. Right. But you would never let her know. Right, but I, you know, every time she goes to get a massage, I kid with her, it's like, oh, do you get a happy ending? And what does she say? She chuckles. And then when you go, does she know that you even go to get massages? No. Every now and then I'll tell her some, you know, you know, schedule something for us both to go do.
Starting point is 00:20:36 But for the most part, it's a no. She doesn't know that I go to the massage and get it done. Right, exactly. Because when you do it with her, right, you're just getting legitimate massage, right? Like, have you ever done a couple of massage and you're in one room getting jerked off by the girl and she's in the other room getting a real massage? No, no. We're usually in the same room or in the same place getting a legitimate body. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Right. When you take her, you take her to a nice spa and it's like a legitimate place. That's probably not the kind of place that you're going to be able to pay a couple extra bucks for a happy ending. I have a lot of guy friends. So I know. I live in New York.
Starting point is 00:21:16 All my guy friends have gotten happy endings. I know all about it. All over the world, by the way. Back page. Yeah. Back page. Great resource. Where is it?
Starting point is 00:21:25 Back page is where you find your girls or your places? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's interesting. Now, do you live in a big city? You don't have to tell me where you live. Do you live in a city or do you live in a small town? It's a small community here where we're at.
Starting point is 00:21:41 So how do you find? So that's where, now, like, is your happy ending place in your small community or do you have to drive a bit to get to it? In the communities. They're, you know, the quintessential Asian massage or the signed back page and there's providers there that do body work. Right. And like my friend told me that you get legitimate massages first. Like, it's not like you just go in there lay down and they give you a, they jerk you off, right?
Starting point is 00:22:08 Like you get a really good massage on top of it too, right? Right. And how much you pay? More so a body rub versus a massage. Right. They wash you down, too. I know those Asians are very clean. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:26 And the table showers I love. I love going to a table shower. Right. Is that what they do too? Or that's something separate? It's a certain places have it. It's a table shower that you go to. They strip you down in the room.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Most of the time, the girl will strip you down while we're in lingerie or stuff like that. They'll take you to the table shower. They'll wash you down, you know, clean you real good, and then dry you off. Uh-huh. You know, total hands-free on the man's part, and then they take you back into the room, and they start with the body rub, just, you know, oils. Yeah, that's what I've heard. It sounds really like, it sounds really nice.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Now, let me just ask you, how long have you been doing these kind of happy-ending massages, is like through your whole sort of matter let's just say you're married because 11 years you're like you know whatever married like you've been doing this the whole time you've been together or is this something you just started recently yes yes which one yes yes been doing it since we've met so it's something you've always done now how come you've never paid a little extra more for blowjobs i believe that you can get blow jobs from those girls you know is is that like where you draw the line or is it just that you think that the the place that you go to they don't do that It's kind of where I draw the line.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Interesting. I love those lines that everyone has. Everyone has different ones. I had this guy, Craigslist Phil, we called him on my podcast. It was such an interesting podcast. And he was like a devout Christian. He was very Christian. And he was very into not cheating.
Starting point is 00:24:00 But what he, so what he did instead was he provided women naked massages. Like he got them to come to his hotel room. They were naked. He would finger them and give them massages, but that wasn't cheating. Like, I think anything wasn't cheating. for him unless he fuck the girl, right? So for you, it's like a jerk off with the hand isn't really cheating, but a blowjob is. I don't think that that's that. I think that's kind of reasonable. But even though you think it's not cheating, like, don't you think if your wife found out she'd be
Starting point is 00:24:28 furious? She probably would, right? Right. Women and men have a different sort of view of things. Like I said, I really believe, you know, if you have a guy, right, like you, as a woman, that you've been with for 11 years and all he does is get you know jerked off and he wouldn't even get a blowjerk because he would think of his cheating. I think that that's pretty good as far as guys are concerned. You know, I hear here something else too since you know
Starting point is 00:25:00 the topic of the discussion is you know, anal pleasure. Yeah. I had went you know look at all this stuff. She knows I'm into porn and all this, you know, all that. So I just recently made a visit with one of the local pro-doms in the area. The local what? Pro-DOM.
Starting point is 00:25:24 What's that? Professional Domitrix. Oh, okay. She doesn't know about this, though, right? Oh, fuck, no, she wouldn't know about it. Okay, go on. So I schedule an appointment with her. And she wrecked me.
Starting point is 00:25:41 It was wonderful. What do you mean she wrecked you? What did she do? She fucked you in the ass? Yes. Oh my God, wait. Okay, you're just so interesting to me. Okay, so you'll get a, at the Asian massage place, you will get jerked off,
Starting point is 00:25:57 but blow drums are out of the question because that would totally be cheating. But with the dominatrix, she could fuck you in the ass. That's not cheating. Because remember, I asked you the question, do you cheat on your wife? You said no. But you've been. My definition of cheating is penis in another person. Because the penis isn't inserted, like your penis wasn't inserted anywhere.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Did you do anything to her or no? Because she's the dominatrix, right? She's just doing everything to you? Correct. She's strictly hot. She's what? You're like, I hear some, like, really bad noise in the background. Are you moving around?
Starting point is 00:26:34 No, she's strictly a top. Meaning she just does it. Right. Okay. Right. Yeah. She does not allow. or did not allow any touch.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Right. And that's because, like, you're paying her, right? Did I ask you how much it is? Yes, she did. It was 200. 200, right. And now, do you only see her once? I've only have yet.
Starting point is 00:26:58 And did this happen recently? Yes. Right. And do you feel like for a lot, like, how long have you been, like, sort of asking your wife to engage in this kind of behavior with you or alluding to it with her before you felt like the need to actually go pay a woman to do it for you? Years. Years.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And was it just for the fact like you just couldn't like do, like you just couldn't, um, wait anymore and your desire was too strong? It was fine. It was what? It was time. Right. I hear you. And so if it was her, do you feel like if she was giving it to you and doing what
Starting point is 00:27:38 this woman would do that you would, that you wouldn't have. had to go to these massage paulers and get your happy endings and you wouldn't be going to a dominatrix to get screwed in the ass because like your wife, I'm just asking these questions because I feel like women listen and they're married to guys and maybe it's like a good advice to women that like, hey, if your guy wants you to do something to him, right? Even if he's like a pretty faithful guy after years and years of him, you know, kind of asking you for exactly what he wants.
Starting point is 00:28:07 If you don't sort of put out, maybe he's going and getting it from somebody else, Right? Correct. That's why I'm asking, because you're not typically a cheating guy. Like, have you cheat before you went to the happy, or you've always went to the happy ending places behind your back? Yeah. Right. And I learned about those places before from, you know, being single and just coming into them.
Starting point is 00:28:31 And then to your statement before, yes, for a nominal fee, more can be done. but in in a relationship that I have been in and am in it wouldn't happen because because you wouldn't want it to happen right because you just stopped just stopped with a hand job right and you've never felt the need to get a blowjob but you said that your wife doesn't even give you blow jobs right correct so but you don't really care about that maybe that you haven't sort of paid a little extra to get them to blow you on top of it? Correct. It's just fine with the rub and tug.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Right. Okay. And so the dominatrix thing was amazing. How did you find that? Did you find that on Backpage? Yes. Right. And now you're still, I mean, like,
Starting point is 00:29:29 because the ad that I responded to on Craigslist is you were still looking for advice of how to get your girl, your wife, into doing this kind of thing with you, right? Like, you still have the hopes that you could turn your wife around so that you don't have to go outside of your marriage to get it on and to do what you're interested in. I still just can't understand why your wife won't go there.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Is she like really religious? Is she kind of like uptight? Is she just like sort of like she won't do what she doesn't want to do? Is she a little selfish? What's her deal? I think a bit selfish and just wants things how she wants it. Right. And do you think like, right, right.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Right. Yeah, because like honestly, like I said, if she's going to fuck you in the ass like she could be reading the paper she could be texting somebody she could be like rolling her eyes you wouldn't know right but she could do that for you and why wouldn't she right because that's what you
Starting point is 00:30:23 really want right you've been asking it for a while she's your partner like I don't see what the big deal is right like it's not something that maybe like if she just did it but she wasn't into it but she said okay babe I'll do it for you would that be enough for you yes
Starting point is 00:30:38 right yes that would be. Right. Like you could close your eyes and pretend she's somebody else or pretend she's fucking into it, right? Like you just, the mechanics of something in your ass would be enough, right? So I just don't get why she wouldn't do it every now and then. Like it's not something that you'd be asking her for every single night, right? On like on average, how many times do you guys get it on or have sex now after being together for so long? It cycle. Sometimes we'll, you know, be daily during the week or monthly and sometimes it'll be once a week or every other week.
Starting point is 00:31:13 It just cycles through. What have you got, I know that you had said to me that you, like in the email, the whole Dominatrix thing, you wanted to talk about what she had you wear? Yeah. What was the deal with that? So she wanted me in panties and thigh highs.
Starting point is 00:31:37 And now was that something that was new for you? Was that something that you had like always fantasized about or got into? Or was, and you were like excited about it or was it new and then you did it and you were like turned on by it? I only wear panties because they're more comfortable. What do you mean? You wear panties all the time? Yes. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Wait, we didn't talk about this yet. Okay, hold on. You always wear panties. Does your wife now? Yeah, she gets me some every now and then. Okay, but how did she find out? Did you always wear panties your whole life? Can we just get on the panties thing?
Starting point is 00:32:15 I don't even give a shit about the fucking in the ass by the Dominotius thing anymore. The panties thing is so interesting to me. Okay, wait a second. Have you always worn them since you were younger? Like, when did that start? Strictly, solely several years ago. And, you know, it took a bit to finally tell her that, Yeah, I prefer them because I would buy non-descript panties that look like men's and wear them the bikini cut like that.
Starting point is 00:32:44 And then I finally told her, you know, playing around, you know, I grabbed a pair of hers and put them on. I was like, oh, these feel great, but they're little large. I need a smaller size. And then so just went from there. Okay, but what made you, though, like in your head, forget about her for a second. Like with you as far as you got into it like a couple years ago. How did that happen? Like, did you just say, oh, these, like, briefs feel like shit, and I wonder what my wife's panties feel like?
Starting point is 00:33:12 Like, what made the switch? Or did you see it in porn and, like, you got horny and it was, like, a horny thing? Like, what made you switch over to, like, like, female panties? Oh, about 15 years ago, I had a hernia. The doctor told me that I had a urologist. And she's like, you need to wear underwear with more support. And it's like, you know, if men's don't work, wear women's. We're women's panties.
Starting point is 00:33:37 You'll feel a lot better. So I took it from there. So 15 years ago you started wearing them because you needed more support. Your urologist told you to do it. Yes. Okay. That's a little bit sounds a lot more normal. This is why it's so interesting.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Like people, when they don't really hear the whole story or they don't really ask somebody a lot of questions, people could judge shit, right? Like if somebody turned off this podcast, like literally two minutes ago, they would just forever think you just were like into panties for a certain reason. But like really the truth is like you got into it because your urologist told you it would like give your balls more support, right? And you just started wearing them and then you like them. It wasn't like sort of a perverted thing, which and I don't mean perverted in a bad way, right?
Starting point is 00:34:22 But it wasn't like sort of a sexual thing. It was functional. Right. Yes. But did it turn sexual for you at a certain point or no? Or only when you did, when did it turn? Before the, like when you're with the Dominatrix recently or over time? Over time.
Starting point is 00:34:41 You know, they just feel so much better, the eroticy of it. You know, every now and then I will get some panty hose or, you know, when she's not home, you know, go down that road. So you put them on and that turns you on to see yourself in them, to feel yourself in them? To feel. Do you like to hide your dim? and like feel like you're kind of like that, like a woman? No. Is it that that kind of thing?
Starting point is 00:35:08 No? No. And what is it about it that turns it on? Is it like the visual thing of like, do you look at yourself and get horny? Or is it just the feeling of like you being inside them? The feeling of it. So she doesn't know that you use her panty hose and stuff, but she knows that you use the panties. Does she know it's like a sexual thing that you're into at this point?
Starting point is 00:35:30 Or does she still think it's something that, you know, you do because. of your hernia back of the day? She asked the other day, you know, you know, so why do you wear them? It's like, well, they're more comfortable. They're more supportive. They like the materials and I like them better. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:48 They didn't get into the sexual nature of it, whatever. But, you know, as any guy, they'll pick up a woman's dirty pair of panties and sniff them and chew on them and suck on them, yes. Totally. But some of them liked to wear them. I had a guy who used to love stealing them. He was so interesting.
Starting point is 00:36:03 he would like steal them from family members He'd go to family member parties And like sneak off into the room And then steal someone's panties And then he would like to put them on and wear them And and then jerk off Like there was that sort of aspect to it right And so for you
Starting point is 00:36:20 Do you like to buy your own Or do you sometimes like to wear your wives Or is it just needs to be just female panties that you wear Or does it need to be sitting there? I get my own You get your own And now you buy them like at women's stores Do you wear thongs or do you wear ones that cover your ass?
Starting point is 00:36:38 Yes, both. Both? Interesting. Okay, so literally the dominatrix is right up your alley, right? She's like everything you wish your wife would be, right? Because not only does she want to screw you in the ass, which has been a fantasy of yours for a really long time, she also wanted you to wear panties.
Starting point is 00:36:57 And that's like your sort of secret thing. I mean, your wife knows that you want to anal play, but she won't sort of allow it. But she doesn't know that the panties are sexual. So really, this is like the first woman, this dominatrix one, that you really let your freak flag fly. And that must have been pretty awesome for you.
Starting point is 00:37:14 It was. It was great. That's great. Yeah, I think that's what is. This is why I love doing my podcast because it's like I talk to so many people. A lot of guys, I get a lot more guys, only because I look on Craigslist, right? And there's not a lot of women there.
Starting point is 00:37:25 But I have had some really interesting women on there. But I think people are so private about what they're into sexually. because of the fear of judgment and everything, but people are into like really crazy things. Like who, I've heard it all and not always hear new, interesting things, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:41 but no, but people can't express it to people that are the closest to them. You know, they can't put it out there because, you know, maybe women or their partners would flip out, right? So they have to go, like,
Starting point is 00:37:52 figured out with other people. Wouldn't it be so great to be able to do that in your relationship? Like, that's what you want, right? Like, would you be open to letting your wife know that you're into the whole panties thing too
Starting point is 00:38:01 if she started to, screwing you in the ass and like sort of recreate that dominatrix thing that you had with her with your wife with the panic and everything yeah i've told her i've had dreams of her and i being out of town and we both went to dominatrix and so she could be educated in what to do oh okay so this is another thing that you were into and she knows that and what does she say i mean listen it's weird because in one sense your wife is like she doesn't flip out when you tell her these things right like right yeah she doesn't
Starting point is 00:38:37 she's like oh me I mean does she just like blow it off like I don't know you very well she knows you right is it like do you just come out and say crazy things all the time so she's like whatever I mean because I think because I think somebody's super conservative right like if you say your wife like isn't into any of that stuff but yet you're like saying these things I think some women would freak out
Starting point is 00:38:58 so you're just the type that comes like just sort of puts crazy things out there all the time so she's used to it? Yes. Oh, okay. But does she know that you act on these things? I mean, are you like sort of you say crazy things but you don't do crazy things? Because that's kind of me. I mean, like people think I'm fucking nuts just because of like the words I come out of my mouth.
Starting point is 00:39:16 But in my life, I'm pretty like average and normal and I'm kind of like dull. But like with you like does your wife just think it's like sort of you're all talking no action? Because it's not like you don't go off and do your things. I mean, even wearing panties, you take her pantyhoes, you're getting happy endings, you're getting fucked in the ass by the dominatrix that you told her you wanted to go to. Does she just have no clue that you actually really want to do these things? Like, she doesn't take you seriously? I don't know if it's that.
Starting point is 00:39:48 I think she's got a roadblock somewhere. I don't know what that is. I'm trying to find that roadblock. What do you mean a roadblock? Well, listen, I think a lot of women might, a lot of regular, I don't know what kind of woman your woman is or like, you know, because you say that you're pretty open-minded and you're into all this freaky stuff. But like, you know, she's like maybe closed off, right?
Starting point is 00:40:10 And that's who you married, right? But I think a lot of women would have a problem with a couple of the things that you're into. I do think, I don't think like everyone would be like, oh, yeah, no problem. I'll fuck you in the ass. I think a lot of women would be like, what the hell? Like, are you gay? Like, they would freak out about it. I just think that that's just the way that it goes, right?
Starting point is 00:40:29 So it's just like, you know, you know your wife. Like, do you think it's a roadblock? Or like I said, do you just think she's like super conservative? Do you think she has a freak flag that she just doesn't want to a cop to? Does she ever tell you about her fantasies? Yes. She's very few and far between. But what are they?
Starting point is 00:40:51 Hold on. She was in a relationship years ago where, he was more of a Dom type and I guess it crossed boundaries and she didn't care for it and you know and so she she didn't she's afraid that it will be a daily thing
Starting point is 00:41:16 you know ongoing daily daily thing right and she can sustain that right and I told her said no it's just you know but bring the freak flag out let it wave you know doesn't to be daily, to be shut once a year would be fine. Yeah, see, I think a lot
Starting point is 00:41:32 of people, I've dated a guy that was like this, that are afraid of their sexuality. Like, they really are, because sex, like, your sexual energy is like, it's an energy, right, and there's a power to it, right? And if you get into things, sometimes it starts to control you, and people that are super
Starting point is 00:41:48 in control of themselves and certain personality types, I think find it very hard or get pretty, like, get kind of afraid to follow their feeling of what they're kind of into because I think they're afraid that they might like it too much, which is crazy to me because sex is great, right? And like, you know, it's okay to go there, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:08 I had a guy that I used to date once who had a problem getting it up. And that's what it was all about with him. He was, and once he got over that and we were having really great sex, he was so freaked out about it. Like, and he just, he couldn't, he didn't like feeling like he liked it so much. Do you know what I mean? Because then it sort of controlled him and he didn't like that. and he was super confused about it. And I think that that's like a certain personality type.
Starting point is 00:42:31 So maybe your wife has that going on because it's like you said she kind of wants to, but she's too afraid it will, you know, take her over, right? Which is what she doesn't understand is maybe in the beginning it happens, you get into something new and you're so into it, right? And it feels like you're totally out of control. But after you do it a bunch of times, like it gets kind of mundane, right? And then you're okay. Like, you know, I mean, I think most things balance out, right?
Starting point is 00:42:56 Correct. You know, another fantasy she told me about, she wants to have two men. And I'll give it to her if she wants. Right. We talked about that. Like, you don't mind to see her fucked by another guy, right? If she wants to do it without me, she could do it. Oh, you would even let her screw two other men.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Does she ever tell her you'd want to be with other women? Or does she ever ask you that? No, I've had three sums before, and they're fun. I've already done it, so there's no need for it. Two girls, that is. When have you done it? Before your wife, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Right. Okay. So you don't know what I'm saying. No, you're saying that you don't mind her having two guys separately. What I'm saying is would you be into having another woman separately and have you said that to her when she has said, I want two guys and you're like, go fuck two guys. I don't care. Like, I'll go fuck a girl. Like, I mean, like, is that how the conversation goes down or you don't care that she wants two guys, but you're fine with not having other women?
Starting point is 00:43:55 Yeah, I'm okay with that. So have you told her to go? Like, what does she say? Where do those conversations go? I refer to her as my hot wife regularly. Mm-hmm. And I've even sent her the definition of hot wife, and she's chuckled. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:11 She's mentioned, she's like, I could see a swinging in the future once the kids are gone. Right. So listen, she is red. Yeah. Why wait? Yeah, exactly. How old are your kids again? let's say 19 and 9
Starting point is 00:44:28 right does your wife drink we both drink we have to it keeps the kids alive right right well because like I think I mean listen I'm a sober person for a really long time and I don't drink and I'm always promoting people like oh drink a little bit more and sometimes it loosens inhibitions right and it's not such a bad thing so I'm like oh maybe you take her to like a maybe you you know what did I really think with your wife
Starting point is 00:44:51 that you need to just like take her her into the water slowly, right? Like maybe just say, like you beg her to go to like a swingers club with you and say, hey, we won't do anything. Let's just go and watch. You know, why don't you tell her like, do you want to come to this dominatrix place with me? I think you have to just keep on her.
Starting point is 00:45:10 I think on some level she wants to do the things. And I think you guys are on the same page. She sounds like she's freaky too and is into a lot of the stuff as well. And she has fantasies of her own. I think she's just super afraid. I think that's more common for women than men, you know, because there's a lot more negative shit attached to women, you know, sort of fulfilling their fantasies, right? Like she's going to be, she might think she's a whore if she fucks two guys, right?
Starting point is 00:45:38 Because that's what people would maybe think. Whereas for men, it's a different kind of a thing. So I think it's a lot more scary for a woman to follow some of her fantasies than a man because of the way society looks at it, right? So you would really have to keep at her. But I think she's going to do it eventually with you. Just for the fact, like I said, that she doesn't freak out totally when you say these things. She also has her own desires too.
Starting point is 00:46:07 You have to make sure she doesn't find out that you're doing any of the shit behind your back. I mean, do you make sure that you keep this other secret life? Because it is a secret life. I don't care if you don't think you cheat on her. You are cheating on her. That's what she would probably think. That's what most people would probably think. and I say cheating in quotes because like I said,
Starting point is 00:46:23 I mean, we all make up our own rules, right? So for you, you don't think you're cheating on her. You don't, right? But I think a lot of people would think that you really don't want her to find out anything. And I just hope that you do everything on the down low. Like, do you keep that shit out? Like, do you keep your stuff on back page on a different computer? And do you have a separate phone?
Starting point is 00:46:46 Like, how do you do your business? It's just total. it's my stuff and then for stuff and I just keep everything logged out and safe okay that's cool just make sure because that's like you don't want that to blow up in your face because like I said I really believe that you know your wife wants to do it and will probably come around eventually but you just have to give her time I just think you have to like keep pushing her Do you just buy a strap on? Do you guys have a strap on at your house?
Starting point is 00:47:22 Yes. You have it. Have you ever got her to just like put it on? No, but I put it on and screwed her with it. Right, and she liked it. But when you say now, do it to me, what does she say? It didn't get to that stage. What do you mean it didn't get to that stage?
Starting point is 00:47:42 What she said was, you know, it's like, oh, I don't like the rubber. she doesn't like the rubber feeling so she prefers the skin it's like okay so you know after a while I take off right totally I get it but she and there is a big difference right from the real thing than the feel of like
Starting point is 00:48:01 you know a dildo for a woman I'm a woman I know but let me ask you this you've told her right that you want her to fuck you in the ass with that strap on yes right so when after you do it to her do you say do it to me
Starting point is 00:48:16 me or like in the middle of sometimes when you guys are flown around you like get it out and say come on please like in the heat of passion or when do you normally typically bring it up that she shoots you down just it's interim I kind of let it go for now because she said it would never happen right and now
Starting point is 00:48:34 you're getting your rocks off I'm sure you're going to visit that dominatrix again yeah I want to take her fist right and that's what you want to do now did she try to do it did she fist she almost got it How many fingers are like the whole thing? She got to the thumb knuckle.
Starting point is 00:48:52 And then how come you stopped? Like you just couldn't take it anymore or did you come or like what was the deal? It wouldn't go. It wouldn't go. But you want to and it felt really good for you? Yes. And now you don't consider yourself gay, right? Like you wouldn't want a guy to do this or this is something you're kind of curious though, right?
Starting point is 00:49:11 To have a guy now too? No, not really. Not really. Maybe a little bit. Right. Listen, maybe a little bit is to me a yes. Like you're curious and you're just starting to think about it a little bit. I think you said that early on that like it's something that you're kind of fantasizing about now.
Starting point is 00:49:31 It's just not something that you're going to do anytime soon, but it is something that you just recently started to think about, right? Even though you've been into anal action for yourself for a very long time, I think you said that recently you have been sort of thinking about a guy. maybe, right? Yeah, a little bit, you know, you know, just in my purvey nature, yes. Yeah, because it's like, listen, it's just like,
Starting point is 00:49:56 so after you do all these things, right, so like what's the next step? Like, I totally get it, and I think that that makes sense, right? Especially because you're into, like, all the saddle stuff, and now you want to be fisted and you're with this dominatrix. Like, it could possibly lead to that. Now, have you, would you tell your wife that
Starting point is 00:50:11 that you're maybe fantasizing about another guy? No, no, no. I don't know. Right. And now it's not something that you're looking to do anytime. Like, do you watch gay porn and jerk off to it? No. No?
Starting point is 00:50:27 Okay, so now, yeah. When I watch porn, I don't jerk off. What do you do? I just, I just, I'm a Tumblr freak. I like cruising through Tumblr. I'm just seeing all the pictures and the debauchery and things like that. Is that what Tumblr is? I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:50:45 I thought it's like a blog. Yeah, it's a blog. But it's porn. It's anything you want is in there. Oh, okay. So you go on there, and that's when you say porn, that's porn to you as Tumblr. And you just like to look at the pictures, but you don't jerk off to it? Right.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Yeah. Yeah, I'll rub myself like that. But most of the time, when I'm able to do that, I'm not able to whip it out and jerk it. Right, because maybe you're at work or whatever is what you're saying, right? Right. Right. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Right. Okay. I don't even know about Tumblr in that sense. That's so interesting. I mean, listen, porn is so readily available anywhere you want it. You know what I mean? Right.
Starting point is 00:51:25 So I guess whatever flows your boat is like, do you like the Tumblr because it's like more voyeuristic and it seems more real than like porn, like regular straight porn? Yeah. Yes. It's like more amateur. That too.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Plus I have my, you know, some of my favorite performers. Oh, why? They have videos? Yeah. or whomever that it is like that. I have some favorites. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:51:52 And they're all females. And do you like the dominatrix kind of a thing? Is that like the girls, the typical girls that you typically like? Some, yes. Other times I just prefer just see the raw nature of the sex and, you know, a woman being fucked out of her mind, a guy getting fucked out of his brains, you know, his brains out. and, you know, seeing their holes completely wrecked. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:21 So you like, like, like, because that's like you're into festing and stuff like that, like you like for like extreme, what would they call it like hardcore, right? Yeah. And now, have you ever tried any like fissing with your wife, like her on you or you on her? Does she get into that at all or no? Every now and then, you know, get the fingers out and, you know, she, can't see we haven't gone to the extent of quote unquote fissing that I have fisted other women and it's fantastic right and does she know that
Starting point is 00:52:55 no right and does she know right but you would like to do fisting with her but she is like how many fingers has she taken with you what's the most she's gotten four fingers in just just up to the palm there and she's liked it she didn't complain. She won't even put a finger, though, in your ass. Like, she won't give you any anal play, right? Correct. Yeah, that's so weird.
Starting point is 00:53:25 She won't even rim you when she's blow. Well, she doesn't even blow you. Why doesn't she give you blowjubs? What's her reason? Is it because you just been together for so long? I have no idea. What do you mean you have no idea? You ask her and she just doesn't say anything back?
Starting point is 00:53:40 I mean, you seem so open. You guys seem like you have a very open relationship. You guys talk about everything. Like, what the hell? all does she say when you say like why don't you blow me anymore? I've stopped asking. I stopped asking. Because, you know, there's no point in it.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Right. But she used to give you blow jobs, like it was a normal thing in your relationship, I'm assuming, right? Oh, before her, it was fantastic. It's pretty, you know, everything pretty much stopped when the youngest was around two. She definitely doesn't like taking a load in the mouth. not anymore or never not anymore interesting
Starting point is 00:54:23 listen as somebody who just recently had a kid and you know I don't have a guy I'm a single mom right now and I have to say a lot of times when I'm taking care of that baby it's a very long day I think to myself like I'm kind of glad I'm not doing this with somebody because if I had to like fuck him or blow him at the end you know what I mean like
Starting point is 00:54:40 I don't it would be it's it's a lot to do like I feel I feel sorry for women I think it's really difficult for women who tend to babies all day and then have to tend to their husband. It's a lot of work, you know. Babies are super needy. They need your attention like 24-7. And then you have this guy on top of it and men are way more needy, okay, than women are in a way
Starting point is 00:55:03 that's like, I know women are needy. Like we want you to listen and we talk a lot. But guys need a lot of fucking sex. That's just as irritating, like as irritating as it is for guys to talk to women and listen to their problems. It's just as irritating for women to like blow you all the time. It's the same shit, you know? And that's why those things go south.
Starting point is 00:55:20 That's why maybe if I was talking to your wife, she'd be like, he doesn't listen to me anymore and he doesn't want to talk to me. And you're like, she doesn't want to blow me. And I think these are very typical problems that happen in relationships after a long time. And especially after kids. It's just, it's just difficult. It's difficult. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:37 You know. I don't even get a birthday blow job. Not even one a year. Did you burp two, like five minutes, two, five seconds ago? No. Oh, okay. I just heard something. I'm like, was that a burp?
Starting point is 00:55:50 I've never had that on my podcast. Okay, I'm not going to edit it out just in case other people hear. I want to listen to it and see what the fuck it was. Wait a second. So not even a birthday blowjob. I remember I had a really funny story of this guy who now, whose wife never gave him blow jobs. And it was like his birthday.
Starting point is 00:56:06 And he came home from a long business trip. And she didn't let him eat. And she was super controlling about his diet and everything else. And she was very not into sex. And all he wanted was a fucking blowjob. And he came home for his birthday. And she had had a burrito, which normally he was not allowed to eat, and a balloon tied to a chair for him. He was like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:56:28 He's like, all I wanted was a blowjob, and she got him balloons and a burrito. And I'm like, this is the problem between men and women. Like, you know what I mean? Like, women, I mean, what woman would think that a man wants a fucking balloon for his birthday? Or a burrito, you know what I mean? Just blow him and be done with it. And I think, you know, she should throw you a blow job once in a while, right? I'm assuming that at this point after being with her for so long, you're not looking for an everyday thing.
Starting point is 00:56:53 But if she gave you one blow job a week, would that be enough? That would be fine. Yeah, I don't think that that's that bad. I really don't. And I think I'm- One a month, one a quarter, twice a year. But do you listen to her? Will you listen to her problems?
Starting point is 00:57:10 I do. We talk all the time. Yeah, now I can tell you're that kind of guy. Yeah. I can tell, you know, we talk a lot. You know, usually there's ears around that we can't go into a certain discussion. Right, totally. We have some time together, you know.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Things derail the logic of conversation to be in the gutter. What do you mean? We'll be on more on topics where sex isn't the topic. You know, there's more, you know, more important things. Of course. Serious things. So that's why it gets derailed, if you will. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:56 You know, she will blow me to get me hard, but not to completion. And that's, you know, every guy's definition of blow job is. And she used to swallow. That's what's interesting. Yeah. Or she used to just spit it out either way. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Now, how long have you guys been together? again, 16 years? Going on 11. 11. See, I've never been with anybody for that long, right? And I just think it's probably very common for sex to go out the window a little bit and for women to become like super comfortable
Starting point is 00:58:35 and be like, I don't really feel like blowing you and feel like that that's okay. Whereas in the beginning of the relationship for a couple of years, like a woman will do that all the time and be into it. But maybe she's just not into it anymore. But I think, you know, on some level, she should probably do it just because you want to. Like you said, even if it's two times of year just on your fucking birthday and Christmas or Hanukkah, whatever. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:58:56 Right. But I really think she's really, she should really strap it on and screw you in the ass and do all these other things with you too. Because look what's happening. Before you know it, I'm telling you, within two years, you're going to be screwing a guy in a bathroom at a rest stop someplace. Like you're just going to keep getting your needs met because you're that kind of person. that will go there. You have these thoughts. You have these desires, right? And after years, I mean, listen, you're not like, oh, you think about something, then you go do it the next time. You waited years before you went and sort of fulfilled your desire after begging your wife, kind of, right, to do it for you.
Starting point is 00:59:31 So eventually, you know, that's what happens. But you're going to keep continuing. I mean, like, you're going to go get fisted by that dominatrix. And I'm sure it's going to be everything you ever imagined and then some. And so what are you going to do? Your wife won't even put one finger inside you, let alone fist you. Like, there's no way she's doing that anytime soon. So you're that dominatrix is going to become your best friend. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:57 You know, back to her personality and things like you're asking. You know, in her 20s, she wouldn't say that she was quote unquote a swat, but she was easy. Right. You know, so then, you know, me too. Right. But I think she changed, right? How old is she now in her 40s or 30 late 30s? She's 47. Yeah, I think it's hard. I think women go through different things, you know, and I think that it's hard when, I mean, there's nothing more unsexy than being a mom. I think it's really, like you lose yourself in kids. And like, I'm not, I only have a baby for two months, you know, but I think, you know, after years of having kids and stuff, it's very hard for women to sort of. of hold on to their sexuality and be as sexual as they were, you know, back in their 20s,
Starting point is 01:00:52 you know, they're just, it's just different, you know, and that's just normal. But I think that there has to be a balance and it takes work. And that's just the way that it goes, you know? Like I said, I think it's sort of common, your issues that you're having with her. I don't think your fantasies are common. I think there are a lot more common than people think. I think a lot of people don't really put it out there. why I like to do my show anonymously because people call in, I don't know who the fuck you are.
Starting point is 01:01:19 You call me from an anonymous number, right? You make up a name. I don't know where you're from. I don't need to know. I just like to know people's stories because this is like the real shit, you know, a lot of people are into a lot of really interesting things sexually that they don't talk about. You know, but because you could do it here anonymously, people call up and they're completely honest. And most of the time, people are like, wow, that was like fucking great to do, right? because they haven't done it before. And that's how I get the truth. Yet nobody else gets the truth because we're all sort of hiding, you know, our true
Starting point is 01:01:52 selves, especially when it comes to sex because people are so judgmental. And like I said, I see that men follow their fantasies and actually act them out a lot more than women I'm thinking. I don't know. I've had a couple girls on here that have lived out their fantasies as well. And of course, my listeners always love those calls. but it's mostly guys that I get. And like I said, I think you're going to like probably do a guy eventually one time
Starting point is 01:02:18 because that's something on your plate. You're just super open-minded and you're a curious person and you're, you know, into all this stuff. And so after you get fisted a bunch of times and screwed in the ass by a woman, eventually that's going to become something that's like, okay, been there, done that and you're going to need something a little bit more and you'll probably go to a guy. You know.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Uh-huh. You know, escape. friends and stuff like that. Probably, right. Have you ever gotten blown by a tranny or blown a tranny? No. No? See, that was like a big, I used to have a co-host, and he admitted to being blown by a tranny,
Starting point is 01:02:58 and then I found out that like half of my guy friends I've been blown by a tranny. It was very common. But you never have? No. No. Right, but considering you have all those friends and you're into it and then you're like, do other people besides me at this point know about this stuff about you? do those gay friends of yours?
Starting point is 01:03:15 Because gay guys are so open and shit. Like do your, or trans friends? Like, do they know about this side of your life? One, my trans friend, she, and she had the operation too. Yeah. Yeah. She's full on, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Yeah. Yeah. We've gotten to know each other over the past 10 years and nine years. And she knows I'm a perverted little fucker. Right. But to which extent, no. Right, exactly. You know, we do have very mild kinks that we play with at the house, you know, the swing, the toys every and your wife.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Yeah. Right. You know, the toys will bring them out, et cetera, like that, and that's what's happening this weekend, because we're without children. Right. So you and your wife will get the swing. Yeah, your wife's freakyer. then she sort of acts. Like, I do think she has that side.
Starting point is 01:04:17 And like you said, she was when she was younger. She just might just be exhausted because of the kids. Yeah, and, you know, both of our work is very, you know, it's a high level stress. Right, right. She just might not have it in her. It's a lot of work, right? But that's fun that she does this swing with you and she does these other things. I mean, like, and she, like I said, and she listens to you, talk about all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:04:41 and she doesn't freak out about it and she says that she, you know, she would be into swinging at some point and stuff. She has that inner person who she was when she was in her 20s inside herself somewhere. You know, it's just a matter of tapping back into that and figuring out of balance. Like I think she probably feels like
Starting point is 01:05:01 how does she sort of be that person without being totally that person like she was in her 20s and still be a mom and be everything else, right? It's hard. Yeah. And, you know, she's the type that has a challenge of multitasking and compartmentalizing different things at once. Right. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Yeah, that's... Right. You know, it's taking her a long time to realize that, you know, after, you know, she doesn't shower for a day or two and, you know, works out a couple days. And especially after she works out, I love going down on it. Right. You like that sweaty kind of thing. the musky, sweaty, yeah, that's just divine. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:44 So you're into all kinds of stuff, like just bring it on. Like you have like a really like dirty mind or but it create imaginative, right? You have an imagination and you use it for sex. And I'm assuming your wife does too. Maybe she's just checked out a little bit. I think she's probably exhausted. I call it mom brain. I call it mom brain.
Starting point is 01:06:06 At a certain level, like I say, I'm only two months into being a mom and it's just like I feel my half of my brain getting lost. You know what I mean? Like I like it's like and I think that that just happens, right? Yeah. Yeah. So she just got to happen. And I bet your breasts are lovely too.
Starting point is 01:06:28 But wait a second. So maybe when the kids get out of the house, she will be a swing or maybe it really is just about getting those damn kids up and out and done with. and then she's going to go back and you may have like a really like really healthy sex life, you know, second half of your life after the kids. Just make sure in the meantime that you don't get busted. I forget what you talked about early on that you had hidden that I thought was bullshit. I just, people don't hide their shit well enough.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Make sure you hide your stuff. Make sure you do everything on the down low. I know you're going to go back to that dominatrix and get fisted. I would love for you to call back up and tell me that story. and so my listeners can hear all about it. But make sure she doesn't find out. Make sure everything is done on the download. Like that is the most important thing.
Starting point is 01:07:18 And as far as advice for how to get your wife into it, I think maybe try to get her to go to Swingers Club and just look, try to get her again to put the strap on on in the middle of sex and just like tell her just try to like you got to maybe put a little effort into trying again. Maybe ask her why she doesn't blow you, you know, because it seems like you gave up. Right? So I don't know why you're still looking for advice because really what would have to be is that you're just going to have to keep at it until she complies Right. Well, you know, it's the advice of getting her to
Starting point is 01:07:47 You know be receptive to Anal on me and then you know more right Right exactly Well, she's into it with her, right? She doesn't mind my tongue Right, but she won't do anything to you I mean it's like we're doing it. I mean it's like we're doing it I just wouldn't even do a finger. I mean, like, please.
Starting point is 01:08:09 I, you know, I don't know what she has with that, like, you know, but you have to get her to lose her inhibitions. It's just going to take you a while. But, you know, in the meantime, it seems like you know how to take care of business and get your needs met elsewhere. And you don't consider it cheating, which is the most very interesting part of this podcast. But, you know, that's the thing. But I would love, like I said, you know, my podcasts are typically like an hour long and we're
Starting point is 01:08:36 like over and we're way over an hour now but I would love to get the follow up call from you when you start to get fissed by that dominatrix if anything happens with your wife and if you do guys anytime soon it would be great yeah sounds good and then
Starting point is 01:08:52 if you would send me a link to where I can get your podcast from absolutely I'm going to post it this Sunday I'll send you a link the minute it goes up and yeah the final closing with that dominatrix it was great to be bent over on the table and her just toy after toy stretching me out.
Starting point is 01:09:14 It was awesome. There you go. Well, like I said, you're going to be going back to her sometime soon for sure. And I'd love to hear the whole story. And we could just like focus on that. Okay. Well, we'll find out. Being bent over on the table with panties and...
Starting point is 01:09:29 Exactly. Exactly. Panties and red thigh highs. You know, that was awesome. Exactly. Keep me posted. My baby's crying. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:09:37 That's why I'm like pushing you off the call. Okay, so listen, keep me posted, and we'll talk to you soon, and I'm going to air it this Sunday, so I'll send you the link. All right, and please mask the voice. I will. No problem. We'll forget. Bye. Right. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available, not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show.
Starting point is 01:10:17 I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person, and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person.
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