Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1141 - FETISH FRIDAY: Misty was a Crossdresser who is Now Transitioning

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

Misty was a cross-dresser who is now transitioning and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including the incident that happened when he was younger that got him into wearing female clothing, when he started stealing female clothing and where he’d steal it from, how and when he got caught with his stash of women’s clothing and how his parents reacted, when his friend found his stash of clothing in his car and how he reacted, his one friend who covered for him and how and when he found out he was into crossdressing too,  the hook up he had with that friend and his wife and exactly what went down, how he dressed and purged all throughout his twenties, how he went rest stops to cruise for guys and what would go down while he was there, when he repressed his interest in dressing and when it came back up, how he brought it up to his second wife and how she reacted at first, how and why she eventually wasn’t okay with it and why they got divorced, when he realized he wanted to start transitioning and when he started hormones, how long he’s been on them and the effects he’s had from them so far, the people he told about him transitioning and how they reacted, loves trans women, the things he wants to do to transition further down the line,  why he hasn’t dated in a long time and what he’s looking for now plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous a pics of LILLY'S STASH plus see pics my other female guests + get TONS of exclusive CROSSDRESSER and or HOSER episodes and content + hear all the anonymous confessions, join my Patreon Crossdresser tier it's only $8 a month for Hosers and $10 a month for crossdressers (you get also get Hoser episodes too!) and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠ MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712  Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.  Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order ⁠http://promescent.com/kathy⁠⁠ ⁠To get 15% off your WHOLE order ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2512-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use code anonymous to get an additional 10% off the campaign’s current discount - that’s 60% off ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shamelesscare.sjv.io/xLQ3Jv⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get $10 off Shameless Care’s female viagra cream, just click on the link and use code: Strictly   Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It'll take you right to your free trial. Okay, today I have on Misty. Misty's got a super interesting story. Misty is in his 50s now and he's at the point in his life where he's going to transition. Once he leaves his job, he's going to fully transition. He's already been on hormones for many years. But we do go all the way back like when he first realized he was into dressing up because he did start cross-dressing when he was really young, when he got into,

trans women. He talks about all of his experiences with the wives that he was with and sometimes he dressed up and how they reacted. He was always kind of honest about certain things and he's honest with a couple people about his transitioning now and he's been on hormones and some people know what he's doing. Some people don't know. He does talk about what happened to him that gave him the courage and the desire to say at in 50 like I'm going to just fucking do it and be the woman that I always wanted to be. Like I said, he's very into trans women. He talks about how and when he got into that. He's out of threesome with the guy. He sucks some dick.

Guys have sucked his dick. He talks about those kinds of stories and what he's done over time. He talks about how the hormones have affected him in the past seven years that he's been on them. And he talks about exactly what he's going to do when he does fully transition the things he wants to do moving forward in two years when he leaves his job. This whole story is super interesting. So I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Misty. Hey, Misty, welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today?

I am great, Kathy. I'm thrilled to be here. I'm glad that you're thrilled to be here. You have a super interesting story. You're Misty. At one time, you were cross-dressing. You consider yourself bisexual. And now you're transsexual, right? You're a trans-woman. Do you consider yourself a trans woman at this point? And I want to, and I have like a million questions. I just want to make sure I'm getting the story correct first, the short story. Well, I am presently transitioning. Okay. Things will happen here in the next couple of years that I want to get. get done that I can't do right now thanks to my job right yeah listen I mean there's so many ramifications especially when you're so much older I mean you're not like a teenager right or like a 22 year old

deciding like you know I want to start my life off as this person so I think it must be even harder when you're older in the middle of your life maybe to make that transition right am I wrong yes I'm in my 50s right and I wish that could have started at 18 but it wasn't socially acceptable then Exactly. But you knew then? I knew when I was five years old that wanted to be female. Wow. Okay. Let's go all the way back to that five-year-old kid, you know, because that's super interesting. So you're in your 50s now. You're transitioning. You plan to fully transition, you know, over the years and all that kind of good stuff. We'll work herself up to like present day. But let's go all the way back to when you're five and those feelings when they started to come up.

Like, how do you, like, what do you remember? Like, what are those first memories for you? Well, I remember my parents asking me what I wanted to be when I grew up. Yeah. And I said I wanted to be a female impersonator. Oh, there you go. I mean, you were very specific. Right. Not knowing that you could have actually been a real female, right?

Not just an impersonator. Oh, I wish I had been born with a vagina. Yeah, right. So you said, oh, I want to be a female impersonator. Now, when did you start like dressing a, up and cross-dressing and getting into all that stuff. Was that also super young? Well, I had an incident with my female cousin. She dressed me in panties one night and we were supposed to be going to bed and she started touching me and I knew right then and there

I loved wearing panties. Oh, well, because you're wearing the panties and she's touching your dick and this is the first time your little dick is being touched? Oh, yes. Yeah, see, that's a problem. You know what happens in a situation like that? Like you don't have any kind of say. You're so young. You're not even sexualized. And your penis has a mind of its own. It has nothing to do with anything, right?

Like you're not thinking anything. But if it gets touched or the wind blows, it's going to get a woody, right? Because it's just, that's the way it's wired. So then you get wired into your, because if you're wearing panties at that time and it's the first time you have that sensation, you're going to get wired into that sensation. And you know what I mean? That hard on in those panties together. That's the fucked up shit that happens when these kinds of.

the things happen when you're young. Yes, but in a way, I'm grateful to her. Because, tell me why. Well, just because it exposed me to wearing women's clothes, and I absolutely adore the feeling of satin, nylon, silk. I love wearing courses, garter belt, stockings. I am into everything. Right, like the whole shebang.

Like any girl would be into it, right? Like a very girly girl. Probably worse. Yeah, yeah, right. You're probably more of a girl than other girls, right? Like, you really love all of that stuff. But let's stay there. So your cousin does that.

That's the first time you're wearing, she puts you in panties. That's the first time you started to put on female clothing, right? The first experience. Yes. Right. So then after that, because now you kind of like it lights, it's like a light bulb goes off inside your head. Do you start, like do you continue to dress?

And if so, like where are you getting your clothes and stuff? Well, that didn't continue until I kind of, you know, put things off until later in life when I was a teenager. And then I would go dumpster diving for long. lingerie. You're kidding. And would you find it? Oh, yes. I found that. Like in people's garbage? Really? Yes. Oh, my God. I hope you wash them. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. I would go to laundromats, anything I could find. Wow. Wait, so you would steal stuff while people were doing their laundry, like if they're- Yes. Oh, my God, because you're so young, right? And you just need to get your hands on it. And this is before Amazon. Like, nowadays, a kid like you or even a teenager or, you know, people could just go online.

line and order shit. But back in those days, it wasn't the case. That's true. You couldn't find anything. You couldn't get anything unless you had balls enough to go into a fucking store and do it, which I do nowadays. Yeah, but you're a teenager. You're not going to have all that money to get it. I mean, there's so much like I was into it. But if people aren't young enough to know, like, there's no way for you to get your hands on that shit when you're younger. So maybe you're not like, you know, because listen, you're stealing shit, right? And that's like really bad. But before people judge you, I'm here to say that like you had no choice. Like, what else are I didn't, and I regret it, but, you know, I had no other options.

Yeah. An uncontrollable fetish to me. I've purged many times over the years. I've thrown out thousands of dollars in very expensive lingerie. Well, that's very common. Yeah, that's a very common purge, throw it out, and then it comes back up and you keep it up A. And then when it comes back up, you have to buy a whole new thing.

And then you purge and throw it away, right? You've heard it a million times before. So now when you're a teenager, you're like going dumpster driving and everything. and now I'm assuming you have some kind of stash in your house. Like, did you ever get caught by anybody dressing up or with that stuff in your room? I eventually got caught with some things in my room, mostly pornography, playboy penthouse hustler, stuff like that. It wasn't until I had moved out with my first wife that my parents found a stash of panty hose and panties and a swimsuit. They didn't see anything to me, but...

But let me ask you this. Do you think that they just thought that that was like stuff that you got from girls that you like had sex with? Because I don't think a lot of people unless they do my show would think like their first thought wouldn't be that you're wearing that shit. They would think that it's like you've got that from women and women that came over or something. Don't you think? I'm not really sure what they thought. Well, that's what I think most people would think, you know, for sure. Like they would think, you know, because listen, that's all women stuff.

They'd be like, oh, he's, you know, getting late a lot. Maybe. I was getting late a lot. Yeah, so I just don't think that most people, like a lot of people, listen, I do my show, I talk to thousands of people, I hear this stuff all the time. So I'm like very in the know. But what you don't remember and what you don't realize, because you're in the lifestyle, you have this fetish, you're living in it. The people outside, if they don't have it, they don't know, they don't have a clue about any of this, you know. So I don't think their first reaction would be that you were wearing unless there were a lot of things that happened to you or the way that you carried yourself when you were younger that seemed very effeminate or something. I don't know. You tell me. Well, I was dusting one time and my dad told me when I was very young, probably six or seven. Yeah. Quit acting like a girl. Oh my God.

You know, I'm a single mom, and so I don't have a guy around my house to say things like that to my son. But like I hear these, you know, things like that coming out of like dad's mouths all the time. And I'm like, oh my God, you know. But look, it didn't change you. It didn't mean anything, even though he said that, right? Yep. Yeah. And I applaud you for being.

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Yep. Yeah. And I applaud you for being a single mother. I was a single parent for a while myself. I know how difficult that is. is honestly I hate to say this because maybe you had a different experience but like I think it's actually easier I don't have to negotiate with fucking anyone I love hard work it's the hardest job I've ever had but I love being psychotically busy and working hard and doing everything and I love

my son so to me you know I find it easier than if I had a partner that I had to tend to and you know had to listen to the way I was raising so I always feel like I have it kind of easier sorry to say. Well, there's pros and cons to having a partner are involved. I guess. I don't know. I've never, you know, I did it on my own and that's the thing. But I don't want to talk about me. I want to talk about you. So let's go back to your story. So one time you're dusting, your dad says, you know, I don't want to see you like a girl. But I'm sure there's a million things that little boys do that aren't manly and their guy, you know, their father say something. But there wasn't anything like drastic about you besides the female impersonator thing that would maybe give your parents an inclination

that on some level you wanted to be a female? Do you think? Well, one time my mother mentioned that she thought that maybe I was gay. Oh, okay. I'm not. I'm by curious. I really love trans women. That's my thing.

Oh, okay. That makes sense. Kind of best of both worlds, right? That's kind of how I look at it, but I love women too. I absolutely adore women. Well, a trans woman is a woman, right? Isn't their face like a woman? they have big breasts like a woman, right?

And maybe they have a cock and there's your guy. Yes. Right. Well, they better have that if they're going to be with me. Because you want that too. So to me, like I said, I think that that's the best of both worlds for you. You have a man, you know, both things that you love. Right?

Yeah, well, I agree. Yeah. Okay. So let's go to, so your parents thought you were gay for some reason. I don't know why because you don't like kind of sound gay. Was it the way you were acting? were you not dating women? Like, why do you think they thought that?

I've had a lot of women in my life. Right. I mean, that's what you said. A lot. I don't get where your parents were coming from. I don't know. I was kind of a late bloomer. I didn't have my first girlfriend until I was 17.

Oh, okay. So maybe that's what it is. Right. And did they find that bag of clothes before you were 17 or after? They found that when it was about 21. Yeah, they didn't think anything of it. They didn't think you were wearing that shit, I'm telling you. Seriously. So anyway, they found it. They didn't say anything, but you know that they found it, right? But now you're living with somebody. Do you wind up telling the woman that you get married to that first wife, like that you were into this stuff? No, but we did have an interesting experience. She was complaining about, or I was complaining about having to shave my face. And she's like, that's nothing. You should shave your legs. So I took her there and I went and did it. And I went back to the bedroom. She got her, guard her belt and stocking sitting there for me.

So I put those on and had sex and then she seemed to ridicule me afterwards. Oh, that's like an interesting sick fucking mind she had there. I don't get it. So she's like sort of bates you into doing this and then ridicules you after it. But it was like her idea? Well, I always wanted her to wear sexy things. So I think maybe that's why she did that. Like she was irritated by it because you were always pushing her?

Maybe. What a sick fuck. I don't know. That's kind of twisting. I mean, was she rude about it afterwards? Yes. It went on for a long time. Last time I saw her was probably 10 years ago, and she mentioned something about that.

The one time? Or did you do it many times? Like when you say it lasted a long time. But so what lasted a long time, her berating you about it? Yeah. And you stayed with her? How long? I was only married to her for about a year, but we ended up having a couple of kids together

because I was dumb enough to go back thinking it was my fault. Yeah, well, we're all young and dumb. You know what I mean? You were in your 20s, right? When you were with this girl? Yeah, it's super young, you know? So you had kids with her. So that's why you've kept in touch with her. That makes sense. I did. And I'm glad she's out of my life now. I want nothing to do with her at all. To a lunatic. Obviously. And I think what she did for you was like a big total mind fuck. You know, it's like weird. But like I said, I give her a pass too. She was young. She's like 21 as well. I was like a fucking cunt when I was 21. And I'm a very nice person now. Okay. So like I just can't judge some. buddy by who they are at that age. We all grow and change hopefully. But anyway, so at that time, though, like, because you said you're kind of bi-curious, like at that time were you fantasizing about trans women and guys or any of that kind of stuff, or did that come later? That came later. That came in my, let's see, 30s. Okay, so through your 20s, what are you doing? Just like dressing

secretly? When I can. I did have a friend that found. I did have a friend that found a stash in my trunk of my car one time. Oh my God. I love asking people where they hide their shit. So what did your friend say? I mean, this is where I'm like, why do people hide their stash in places where, like, people could find it? Why was it in your backseat of your trunk? Well, that's the only location I had where I had control over everything. Oh, right, because you're married at this time. I was still living with my parents. No, I was living with my parents when this was discovered. Oh, my God. And I had a flat tire. And I had no choice but to get in the trunk and I've got two friends with me. Oh my God. That's like one of those things that my mind thinks that way. That's why I would

never keep anything anywhere because I'm just too paranoid that like, what if I got a flat tire? And someone had to come in and that actually happened to you. What did they say when they saw the bag of stuff? One of them knew what it was. He saw what it was what was in there because someone spilled out. The other one didn't see it because my other buddy covered everything up for me. That was cool. That's a good, that's a good friend of yours. Did he say anything to you about it, though, later? Not until years later Because he's into this now You're kidding

So what does he come to you later And say hey By the way I'm into dressing up too Like how did you find out so many years later He told me about it on a phone call He called him Yes him and his wife

And I had a three-way one time Before you talked about it Yes Okay Were you swingers with your girl Or like did this happen in high school Like I'm getting confused with the timeline here because we're going back and forth, but it's cool.

This happened probably, I don't know, 14 years ago. So I'm in my 40s. Oh, okay. But before he caught up... I've known this guy since I was 13. Okay, but this is before he brought up that he was into cross-dressing? Yes, but he knew I was. Yeah, of course.

In fact, I was drunk and I was wearing something when they showed up at my house. Did you keep it on? Yes, it did. And he didn't say anything then either? I'm confused. I didn't see them when they took my pants down. Yeah. And you're wearing panties, obviously.

That's what you're wearing? Panties, garter belt, and stockings. Okay. So at that point he fucking knew. Okay, you're saying like so many years later, he contacts you and finally has a conversation and confesses that he's into it. But at that moment when he had a threesome with you and he pulled down your pants, he knew what you were into.

And he knew back then. He just never spoke about it with you. Yes. Okay. How was that threesome? Did you hook up with him or just the wife? Well, me and the wife gave him a blowjob and did a snowball. And that's as far as that went.

They wanted it to be a permanent thing. Oh, so she ended up dying in a car crash and some things never happened. Oh, my God. So you sucked your friend's dick, that buddy of yours? I did. Wow. Did you guys discuss it afterwards? Yes, we did.

And what was that conversation? It was absolutely delicious. But like what was that coming? And now I have a cum fetish. Okay. And was that the first time you sucked a dick? Yes. So in your 40s.

Before that, though, was the desire there? You know, I don't really know whether it was or not because I've been fascinated by women for so many years. But I've been mistreated by them too. But I think that's life. Yeah. Yeah. Of course, it depends. You know, some people don't go through that.

It depends on how much trauma you have in your life. Like attracts like, you know? If you're damaged goods, you meet. damaged goods, you know? There's no fucking, most people are that much of a victim's. Yeah. Okay, so let's stay chronological. Okay, you marry this chick. She's kind of evil, but like you're with her for a while. So you're secretly dressing and stuff because you only dress with her one time, correct? Yes, but I was secretly dressing when she'd be gone. Right. Mm-hmm. Now, were you doing any kind of panties? Oh my God. And she never caught you, though, doing anything more? No. Nope. Okay. And so when do you guys get

divorce. How old were you when you leave her or she leaves you? About 22. Oh, right. You're only married for a fucking year. Okay. So what happens between 22 and 30? Because you're still like, are you purging and dressing? Like, what's going on with you during those years? Yeah, I'm purging and dressing and started playing around a little bit with guys in certain areas because I was very curious at that time. And I would run across cross dressers. kind of play around a little bit, but they would, okay, well, you told me before that you weren't into guys until you were in your 30s, but you're here you are in your 20s, sucking cock from guys that you meet online, right? They were sucking my cock. Okay.

Same shit. Okay. So you did dabble with men, okay, doing some stuff, them blowing you in your 20s? Yes. Okay. And so what did you do? Go looking online for guys, like on Craigslist. Like, where do you meet these guys?

There was a area where. they would cruise in California in the Central Valley. Oh yeah, I forgot. Those places do exist. Yes, they do. Mm-hmm. And I'd play around there, usually get a blowjob, and that was it. Okay.

And I would, you know, feel bad about it, wish to hell I hadn't done it. Right. Postnut clarity. And then I'd find myself, you know, back there in another week or two. Oh, my God. I didn't play too much, just a little bit. You just got blow jobs at that point in your life. Yes.

Right. Okay. And during that time, Are you still hanging out with chicks? Are you dating anybody or are you single? I'm single and dating a little bit here and there. Nobody's serious. Right.

I didn't really get into anything serious until I moved to another state and was in my, what, 30s? Are you married now? I am not. Okay. So you get married again in your 30s. So during that time, you're dressing now when you're cruising and going to these places and you're getting blown by guys. Are you dressed?

Sometimes. Oh, okay. So interesting. So sometimes you're dressed, sometimes you're not. Because sometimes some cross-dusters, like, will only hook up with a guy when they're dressed and in their female form

and feeling, you know, feminized. Sometimes not. You know, for you, you did both. You went sometimes dressed, sometimes not trust? Yes, but I didn't let them know I was dressed. Oh, so you always, you always showed up as a guy. You were never showing up as like a guy dressed up.

Because listen, a lot of guys are into men who are cross-dressed. That's just a fact. But you never went cross-dressed to one of those places. I never went cross-dressed. Okay. Did you ever hook up what guys dressed during those times at that time in your life? They were. I wasn't.

Oh, so this place that you went to, the guys, the guys, the cross-dressers were blowing you? Yes. Okay. So it was like a cross-dressing, a cruising? spot or were some guys some of it like guys and some of it cross dressers or all cross dressers I'm confused some of them were cross dressers some or not okay okay I prefer the ones that were so you so as a cross dresser you're a cross dresser too but sometimes you like to hook up with men who are cross dress as well you're one of those guys that dig a guy who's dressed up right because you're into trans women

that's like your kind of thing absolutely right okay so some of these cruising spots that would be going down. So now you're in your 30s. When do you, and you don't have that threesome with your friend, but like around that time, do you start, are you still feeling like you're a woman? Like, we still have to get to that whole thing that's going on because you're dressing and you kind of into suck a dick and getting your dick sucked. You're having threesomes. I don't know. You're dressing up. But like you do have this whole, like you feel like a woman, right? And you want to be a woman. And now it's acceptable and you're going to do it. But at that time, what was going on with that part of yourself?

I completely reverted and tried to go completely masculine. I got into martial arts, lifted weights all the time, was just trying to be as totally masculine as I could. Oh, okay. But you were still dressing, and that's when you would, like, sort of, like, give that part of yourself an outlet? I quit dressing during that marriage.

The second one? Yes, for quite a while. It took a little bit for us, until I started, you know, having conversations with her after watching pornoes and stuff and having her wear things that I the desire come back and was overwhelming because you had suppressed it probably for so long yes I had suppressed it for a very long time this father's day instead of getting your guy or yourself something boring and practical why not get yourself something that's going to be a whole lot of fun like the butter wellness

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and click on the link. It was overwhelming. Because you had suppressed it probably for so long. Yes. I had suppressed it for a very long time. Yeah, I've heard that. And you can, right? And it could just like, you think it's gone forever.

And then it comes back, full force. Yes. Did it come back while you were with her or after your divorce? While I was with her. And so what happens? She totally rejected the idea. Initially she wanted to play along, but then I ended up going, I can't do this. Well, let me ask you this.

I mean, I think it's kind of brave of you. The fact you're saying that you actually brought it up to her and said, hey, listen, this is what's going on with me. This is how I feel. And this is what I want to do. Uh-huh, I did. And I started wearing clothes while we were having sex. And? I'd wear something sexy and she'd just go along with it.

Well, that's not bad. That's kind of cool of her. No? I mean, you're kind of lucky. A lot of guys, you know, keep, especially in your age range, you know, because it was so unacceptable. Most of the time they keep it a secret and this is like a private thing and they never tell their wives. I mean, you have two wives that kind of came up in both situations. With this second one, even though that first one totally put you down, you were, you spoke up. up for yourself and said, hey, this is who I'm out and this is what I'm into. And she was accepting. Initially. Okay. And then what happened? She backtracked after maybe six months. And then we started having marital problems. And I believe she started having an affair. Did you ever get confirmation of that? Uh, nothing concrete. Okay. So did you get to like, so did you get divorced soon after?

We got divorced, yes. Okay. So during that time, though, would you get fully dressed with her and have sex with her? And for a while, for those six months, she was down? Yeah. We'd watch pornos together and we'd get it on and I'd be dressed up, just happy as I could be. Mm-hmm. And did she have any reservations in the beginning or did they just come out way later? She just like sort of acted like a people pleaser and was like, this is totally fine. And then six months later, she's like, I can't handle this. Or did she have a lot of questions in the beginning? Like, I don't see how. She was just so cool and then six months later flipped out. I think she did a lot of people pleasing. Right. So just went with it in the beginning.

Like did she have in the beginning a lot of questions? Because here you are married to someone and out of the blue you bring up like, hey, by the way, I want to start dressing up in women's clothing and I want you to fuck me while I'm wearing panty hose. I mean, you know, most women would have some questions. You know, I don't recall her having many questions about it. When she put up the obligation or the, you know, if you got up. said about things. It was, you know, the questions, are you gay or you're into guys, you know, stuff like that. Yeah, well, that's what I'm looking for. That's the normal stuff that a woman might think. And you could

understand that, you know, because a lot of women don't know anything about the fetish. A lot of times the cross-dressing fetish is about, you know, a man's sort of obsession with women, not with men, you know? It's like them dressing up as women because they love women. That's where it comes from. So, but a lot of women might think the opposite. So I would assume she would say that. But you acted. as if she was like, great, let's go and just started banging you dressed up. But she did have questions in the beginning. Well, later on she had questions. At the beginning, I think she was more of a people pleaser and just do what you want,

you know, do what you want. You know, I'm staying married to you. I love you, all this stuff, you know, just to get along. Right. Okay. And then eventually over time when you would, like, she started to tell you that she didn't like it, like what did she start to say to you? And how did it become a thing that you couldn't do anymore?

And she just basically told me, I can't do this anymore. I can't look at you wearing that stuff and have sex with you. I'm not turned on by it. I don't want anything to do with it. Yeah, that's a problem. You know, if she's not into chicks, right? And seeing you like so feminine, it just might be in, and the worst case scenario is that it's not just not a turn on, but it could be a turn off, right? Yeah, I think that's what it did do her.

Yeah, it's unfortunate, but it really, like, listen, if that's who you really, you really, are and that's who she really is you know because some women might like a guy who's more effeminate right out a girlfriend who love guys like that you know and plenty of women do and they like buy guys or guys who are more effeminate that woman would love for you to be dressed up and fuck you every now and then like while you look at that way but she wasn't so she obviously just wasn't the right person for you that's a fact I need to find somebody who's more into what I am right it's very hard to do. I live in a very conservative area and there's just nothing like this that goes on in this area. It's very rare. Yeah. Well, maybe you have to move. I don't know. But let's get to, we're not up to that point yet. So you divorce this woman, right? And your dressing is full force like in your face. When does the whole transitioning come up for you?

Well, I had some medical problems in my early 50s. And I decided, you know what, I am not going to live. this way the rest of my life. I'm going to be who I want to be. I'm going to do what I want to do. So I found me a doctor that, you know, specializes in HRT and stuff, started seeing her. And so I'm on estrogen, progesterone, all that stuff, you know, that I need all the feminizing hormones. I've had laser treatments, which sadly, like you, I have to have them again. Well, doesn't that suck because of the hormones? I know, the testosterone for me. It was the hormones. but yeah, it could come back with the hormones for sure. So how long ago did you start,

did you go to this doctor? About eight years ago. Oh, wow. Okay. And this was after your divorce and that's when you decided you kind of sort of like saw the light, right? Because of what happened to you and you're like, life's too short.

I'm going to do what the fuck I want. And had you always known somewhere inside of you? Because it's not, it's not like we've been talking mostly about your dressing, but not really about your desire to be a woman. Like was this something that was always in the forefront of your mind? or did that just come up at that time for you? That pretty much just rid its head again at that point in time.

Right. And then did it come flooding back like, wow, like this is kind of how I always felt maybe? Yes. Yeah, that's interesting. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So you found a doctor. Now, you're single at this time, right?

And you decide that you want to fully transition at that time? Or did you just say like, oh, I'm going to go to a doctor and just like find out some stuff of like, you know, get some information? I did a lot of online research because we had the internet by that in my life and found out, you know, what kind of doctor I needed, an endocrinologist and, you know, general practitioner and stuff, and went through a couple of different doctors because they would not help me with what I wanted. Right. So I finally found a reference through a relative of mine that let me know about this particular doctor. And I did not know they specialized in HRT until I seen it in the office window. And then I was like, oh, I am in good hands here. Right. This is what you're looking for.

Now, did you decide at that moment, like, you're just going to go all in, like, and you want to fully transition? And did you start to tell people in your life? I have a few relatives that know, and I have some friends that now. Really? And how did those conversations go for you? Very well. That's great. When did you wind up?

Like, who was the first person that you told that to? First person I told it to is my best friend. Okay, the guy that you had the threesome with? Okay. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And he was very supportive. Well, is that when he copped to the fact that he was a crossdresser too or had he already

copped to that with you already? It had been about five years after that he finally told me that he was into everything I'm into. Oh, interesting. He just wanted to be female. Interesting. So even when you told him he wasn't ready to tell you yet, which, listen, you have to respect. It's everyone has their own time where they feel comfortable.

But so when you told him that, he was just very accepting, but he didn't cop to it yet at that point? No, he didn't. Interesting. Which surprises me, but. But everyone has their own time. You know what I mean? It's maybe he hadn't come to that. I don't know.

Who knows? When did he wind up telling you recently? Within the last three years. Right. And how did that conversation go? I was like, well, you know, welcome to the club. But he doesn't want a full, like, transition or anything, right? No, he's more into, you know, a femme-dom relationship.

Right. Now, have you ever hooked up with him dressed or anything like that since you do like cross-dressers, male cross-dressers? Only the one-time, one-threesome. I'm not into his style. He's more of a bear. Right. What kind of guys are dressed up girls do you like? I like very effeminate women, you know, girls that are dressed up like that, you know? When I discovered trans porn, there was a whole list of stars that I'd, I really admired and wanted to be like. Oh, really? That was mind-blowing to me when I found trans porn.

Because that was like who you wanted to be like. You wanted to be them. Exactly. And who were some of the girls that you loved? I'm sure other people might know them. Well, the first one I discovered is a gal by the name of Aria, and she's from the Philippines. And then I found Bailey J. And I think everybody knows who she is.

Oh, yeah, because you know why? I used to, you know, I got into podcasting because I was very close with Robert Kelly, who's a comedian. And Bailey Jay, right, was on their network. And she was like a big podcaster back in the day, right? She was like, and she was really ahead of the times, I think. And she looked fucking great, right? She was super hot. And she was like in their crew.

And she was like on their podcast network. And she was very out, out and proud, right? Besides doing all the porn and stuff. Well, you know, she started a very young age. That's why she looks the way she does. Because she's very passable. Yes, yes. I wish I was passable.

I am not presently. I need a bunch of surgeries to be somewhat passable. How far do you want to go with the surgeries? I want to keep my dick. Other than that, I want, you know, I want my lips done. I want a tracheal shave. And I would like to get Bailey Jay's breasts are like my ideals. Right.

But I'm 510, 140 pounds. And right now I'm a 34A. So I don't know if I'll have the breast tissue for implants without using sizes and stuff. You know, to expand. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. How big is she, though? She doesn't have that big. Like, you would just need to make maybe, what's the size, like the cup that you would want?

Preferably, I would like to be a 34 double B. Oh, okay. So that's really big. I'll settle for a C. I forget how big her boobs were. A lot? I will settle for a C. Right.

So what do you, now, what have your, when, how long ago did you start the hormones? Seven, eight years ago. Okay. And so what, what kind of changes have you had from taking those hormones so far? Well, my breasts are very, very sensitive. Okay. So I put nipple clamps on and I lose my mind. Really?

I fucking lose my mind. Really? And before that one, you have, like a little bit of the pain. Oh, interesting. Okay. Did it change your voice at all? My voice has not changed a bit. That's something they can do surgically, but I don't know if I'll have that done.

I think I'll start taking, you know, like voice coaching lessons, stuff like that. Right. But seven or eight years, you have to have more effects on your physical, body, emotional. Like, do you find your, like, because I always think that men and women are very different in the way that they think, and the way that they feel, you know, right? Like women think, like more in circles. men are more direct, you know, there's definitely differences. So I wonder when you really change those hormones, you know, and I think hormones play into that kind of stuff. Like, you know, when you, since you've

been on these hormones for so long, and now you're on these female hormones and you were a guy for most of your life, do you, what's the difference that you notice? I'm very emotional. Since, I smell everything now, the way women, you know, look around, smell fabric softens and stuff like that. I am in the habit of doing that now. Interesting. And you didn't, so the guys don't smell shit like girls do. I never did that. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah. That's the kind of stuff I want to know. Because I would assume 100% there has to be differences, right? And because you've lived on both sides, you're so, to me, that's what would be interesting for you to speak about because you would know the difference. So you smell things different. You feel more emotional,

correct? Oh, I am extremely emotional. I get cut. in a movie by my son's girlfriend one time. She's like, I can't believe you were crying, you know? Yeah. Like, well, my favorite character just died. Yeah, welcome to being a chick. And she was a chick and she wasn't even crying. No, she wasn't crying at all.

That's so funny. Now, have people around you notice something is different in you since you've been? Because I feel like, you know, there'd have to be some kinds of shifts that's going on. It's a long time being on hormones. and you don't have any other surgery to really give it away, right? Like as in your appearance, right? Besides, I mean, your nipples being sensitive, no one could see that on you. But is there anything that would, like, people around you would notice from being on hormones for seven or eight years?

I think the fact that my nipples are constantly hard. Is it tell? I don't think so. I think that's definitely a tell. I mean, you can see if you know what, you're looking for that I have breasts. But I've also let myself go and have kind of a dad bought too to help hide it with a lot of baggy clothing. Right. So a lot of guys, bigger guys have man boobs.

You know what I mean? That comes with the territory sometimes. So no one's going to think twice. But nobody has caught on besides the people that know? Nope. Nobody's caught on or said anything. Right. So what are the hormones like for seven years like, you know, what is your goal to be on them to like to, you know, because it's, you know,

because it's been seven or eight years, that's a long time to be on them, right? They didn't change your voice. They, you haven't grown boobs, right? From them, really? Just 34A. I was very flat chested before.

It's like I had no packs. I had nothing. Okay, so now you have a little bit of the breast, right? So what, what more are you looking for and what does it entail moving forward? Because this is as far as the, obviously, the hormones are going to take you. Well, like I've said,

I would like, to get some implants, breast implants. Okay. I've got to get a tracheal shape because I have a very pronounced adams apple. Okay. I got to do some voice training. I want, you know, lip injections. I've got to do something with my lips because I have very thin lips.

Mm-hmm. I want to finish the laser, get my beard done, all that kind of thing. Mm-hmm. Complete hair removal. And how come you haven't started any of that stuff? I've done a lot of laser. I've had my entire body laser, except for my... my face, but it's grown back. Yeah, like we spoke about that already. Okay. What about the implants,

the tracheal shaving? Is that like, you know, is there a part of you that's holding off because when it becomes more apparent, just walking around, it may change your life more? I'm concerned but more about my career. Yeah, well, that's a big part of your life. I'm just a few years away from retirement. Yeah. So are you maybe waiting for that? Once I do that, it's all on. Yeah. Maybe it's better to wait for you're when you're retired right two years is that what you're waiting for that makes sense yeah yeah yeah because those kinds of changes you can't hide but do you feel like you're at the point when that two years is up and you can't lose your job right and you're like secure and you're good to go that you are at the place in your life where you are like you know be out and proud as a trans woman and that's where

you're at yes right and now who like how do you think the people are going to respond like you know, like your kids and the rest of the people that have no idea. Well, one of my kids knows and is accepting about it. The rest of them, I really don't give a fuck. It's my life. I'm too close to death. What are you going to do? You can hate me any worse than you already do, you know?

Yeah. Listen, I think that a lot of people, you know, after you turn 50 and above, and plus you went through something, right, that made you really, I guess, like look at your life in a different way that, you know, you start to not. really give a fuck what people think anymore. I mean, I was always that way, but I find that most of the time, you know, when you, the older you get, the more you start to not give a fuck. Because you do get the sense that, like, life is short. And it is really true. You know what I'm saying? Like, seriously, I think a lot of people don't fucking get it. You know, they're wasting around thinking

that they're going to live forever. They're just complaining about everything. It's like, live your life now because this is all you got, right? Like, for real. Yeah. And so I think that that's actually great. And two years will go by fast, you know, and do you plan on in that time? And you just staying on the hormones and then when it's done, you plan to do the implants and everything? I will do that within the first six months of my retirement. And I will also leave where I live for a more accepting state. Oh, okay. That makes sense. Something with a larger LGBTQ population. Yeah. And listen, there's plenty of places like that, right? Well, I've got to find some places gun friendly too because I don't fucking like being, you know, unarmed, being transgender. Right. You want to feel safer.

Right. Mm-hmm. Now, do you, are you dating anybody now? I mean, do you, because listen, it's like, if you started a relationship today, you might have to say, hey, by the way, like, you know, if we settle down with each other in two years, like, this is what's going to happen. I haven't had a date or seen anybody. I had a fuck buddy about 15 years ago. Prior to that, it's been like 16, 17 years since I've been in a relationship. Oh, okay. And she was very cool with the whole thing. She was. Oh, yeah. She used to peg me. She used to dress me in courses. She's where I got the double three Ds from. So, because she had 34 double Ds. Where's that girl? I fell in love those. And she broke up with me. Right. Listen, you've kind of been lucky to have some girl, women that, you know, you've always been kind of open about it, which I totally respect and you're lucky for that, you know. How did he, how and why does like one of your kids know versus the rest?

Because I'm only close to one of them. Oh, okay. That's just the one that you're closest to. Yes. And is that a son or a daughter? That's the son. Okay. And you told your son everything?

I did. I told his girlfriend first and she ratted on me to him. And then he just come up to me one day and goes, hey, she told me, you know, what's going on with you? And I just want you to be happy. Yeah. The younger generation is so open and cool, right? That's the way it's supposed to be. nature, right? Your kids are going to be more evolved than you were and vice versa, right? I mean,

and then their kids are going to be more evolved, you know, because they grew up in a different time than you. How old are your kids? How old are my oldest ones in her 30s? Right, but this kid, that's a boy. How old's your son? 27. Right. So, and that age rate, that that age group, they're like more open-minded. They grew up in a different time, you know? They didn't grow up when you grew up boy, this shit wasn't even talked about, you know. It was around, yeah, but like you say, Kathy, it was not talked about ever. No, not at all. But in your son's life, it has.

So that's why I'm saying it's more likely that he's going to be very accepting of it because it's not like so crazy. I mean, it's not like something unheard of. You told him, though, that you want to transition and everything and he's just totally cool with it? Yes. Yeah, that's amazing. I mean, you know, and so you have the sort of approval of a couple of like your clover of, like, your closest people. Do you plan when the time comes that you're going to have the surgery and it's going to be so obvious that to come out to everybody else? I don't care. If they see me and they see

my big boobs, more power to it. If you want to have a problem with it, whatever. Yeah. I don't care. Yeah. Yeah. Because you're going to be happy, right? Like, what does it mean for you? Like, how do you see your life changing when you could fully, you know, walk around looking like a woman, and having the breast that you want and being who you always felt like you're supposed to be. Like, what does that do for you? Emotionally, it'll make me feel overjoyed. Right. Having that in another state is going to be even better because I can be more relaxed about things.

Right. This state here that I live in is so religiously, well, let's just say it's a high Mormon population. Yeah. You would imagine the shit that's going down. gay transgender. Yeah, but imagine the shit that's going down there. I've had a lot of Mormons calling to my show. Secret Wives and Mormon lives.

Look at that whole show. It surprises me when I find out those things to a certain degree. Yeah. I'm like, you're so repressed. And yet, you know, I have a neighbor that saw me with painted toenails one day and won't even look me in the eye anymore. Yeah, because their toenails are painted too. Just because they don't look you in the eye doesn't mean they're not doing shit. Okay.

Let me just tell you. The more you repress, they say that what you resist persists. I mean, I think. the worst thing, these sometimes hardcore religions or people that totally, you know, try to make their kids to be so conservative and tell them, don't do this, don't do that. It just makes them want to do it more because it makes it naughty and hotter. You know what I mean? And that's all you do sometimes. And that's why I think sometimes in those kinds of communities, you have so much of that stuff going on because it makes it more alluring. Sorry. Well, then they should let me in on the

action. I'm on a really long dry spell. All I've got is toys. Why aren't you online? Nowadays, there's so much online stuff. There's so many guys that are into, you know, trans woman. You could get dress up and get chicks. I'll give you my Discord. You're going to go in there for free. I have a whole cross-dressing tier with guys that are into guys like you or girls like you. I mean, like, you know, you could go online and start looking for people and being out about who you are, you know, transitioning, trans woman, you know, looking for.

Like, what are you looking for? Like, what would the perfect partner be for you? Is it a woman? Is it a man? Is it a fellow crushester? Is it a trans woman? Like what is your... Transwoman.

Okay. So you would be looking for a trans woman, right? Oh, absolutely. Uh-huh. Why don't even looking? I don't know where to look around here. You know, I mean, I'm on SDC. I just recently changed it.

Okay. I have not done a membership yet, but I've set up a profile, a brief profile. Okay, great. And then I thought of boarding that because I got a picture on there. I don't know how to blur it out and all that. I just recently got on your, what did you call that? Discord. Discord.

I signed up for that today and I need to buy your book. Oh, okay, cool. But you can get in there for free. I'll, don't worry about that. So wait. So yeah, you got to go on more sites. I think you got to go into some forums where there's a lot of like people looking for trans women. You know, listen, I have a lot of cross-dressers and trans people on my show.

And you know where they go on like Tinder? Put a picture of yourself dressed up on Tinder. trans woman, you know, not transitioned yet looking for a hookup. You get tons of guys hitting you up. But like when you go out looking for a hookup, are you mostly looking for a guy, a woman, or a trans woman? Or would you take any of the above? That's what I want to know.

I'm more into women and trans women. I mean, I would do a guy. Because you're going to get hit up by a lot of guys. I would do a guy. Yeah. I mean, like you had some gals call the other day about, you know, a gang bang with all these black guys and that fucking turned me on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was listening at work and I got a fucking hard on. Oh my God. Well, you got to get back out there. Go on some apps. Get into some forums and

some chats. Start dressing up and posting picks of yourself dressed. And, you know, you, you know, there's probably a trans woman out there for you. I think there's somebody for everybody. You know, you're kind of like at the time now, because you're two years away from you really fully getting into this. Where now is the time you should try to find somebody that will be there for you. You through that time, you know, and then you could really be with someone. But I really love your story. It's super interesting because it is coming at such a, you know, a later time in life, right? I've talked to a lot of trans people that I've talked to are way younger than you, you know, because nowadays, this is something that people can do while they're really young. You know, you're someone that's thinking about it

now in your 50s because, because like of when you grew up, it wasn't available. But, you know, it's an interesting story because I'm sure people will be able to relate. And I think you inspired some people because I love your kind of attitude of being like fuck it I don't care like I want to be who I want to be And this is what you're going to do so I think that that will be inspiring to other people who might not be there yet But should be by the time you're 50 you should fucking think like that okay because you are just going to die I sure hope I inspire some people and I hope it's a good podcast I don't know that if I've revealed enough or hidden enough or or what I hope it went well for you Listen, the way I feel like, and I feel like, and, you know, I'm like, whenever I get on a phone with a person, I don't know much, right?

But I look at every person as like a blank canvas. And sometimes I think I'm going to paint a certain picture. And then sometimes by the end of the conversation, I paint a different picture. But whatever picture I have painted through what has come out to me is always wonderful. And because it's always unique. And, you know, sometimes it's not like what I thought and sometimes it is. But whatever it is, it's always like an interesting picture. and it's always completely unique, unlike anyone else's.

So I love your story, and I think it's super interesting, and it's very unique. So I think it's a great podcast episode, and it will be up very soon on a Fetish Friday episode. So stay tuned, okay? Okay, I will listen to you every day. I love that. I love that. Thank you so much for calling in, Misty. Thank you.

Thanks, bye. Bye-bye. Okay, good news. I do have a book out. I wrote a book, and it's coming out. The book is called Trickle and On. this Confessions, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. What I did was I picked out the 17 best episodes. That was very hard to do. Okay, I picked like one from each category. And I retold the story from the third person. So it's not interview style. It's a little bit more erotica. The only place where I took creative liberty was in the sex scene. So it's even hotter than my episodes. Like I said, it's told in the third person. And they're all true, just like my show. I mean, these are real stories from. my show, just written out. Like I said, in the third person, not an interview style, more like a story,

but a true story, a true super hot story. Now, listen, it is available for pre-order now and it's not coming out until October 14th. And I was like, oh my God, that's a long time away. So I figured I'd incentivize people. If you want to pre-order it now, I will give you free access to my Discord if you pre-order it now. All you got to do is screenshot, a pick of the a seat, just screenshot it to me, send it to strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. And then I will send you the link to my Discord. So that's a little incentive to pick it up now. It's on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Simon & Schuster.

The link is in the description. So make sure to click on it. And if you get it, send me the pick of you purchasing and I'll give you free access to my private discord. That is a totally naughty, super hot community with a lot of people over 2500 people over there having fun. And remember email me the pick at strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly

Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my chef. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story.

There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person, and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse letters.

It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format, and finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint, okay? There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to

people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other, and that's what you get to do there. You can post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook or the paperback.

Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.