Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1162 - Jessa is a Hardcore Size Queen Into Orgies, BBC Hotwife Parties and More

Episode Date: July 7, 2025

Jessa is a hardcore size queen into orgies, bbc parties, hotel takeovers and more and she called in to talk all about it. Tune. In to hear all the details including the young guy she met awhile back w...ho got her into live streaming, the first swinger house party she went to and exactly what went down, the first BBC Hotwife party she went to and exactly what went down, the second BBC Hotwife party she attended and the exact amount of guys she hooked up with, how and why she’s rarely turned off by anything or anyone, the bigger guy she’s into right now and how and why she totally digs him, why she’s not into big swinger parties, the time she tried DVP at an orgy and exactly what went down, the couple who runs the orgies that she goes to and what she does when she attends them, the largest amount of guys she’s been with at once, how she stays safe, the time she got oral gonorrhea and how she found out, the porn star she met on sdc.com and how he was in bed, how she taught herself to deep throat, how losing a ton of weight made her super horny and got her into all the things she’s into now plus a whole lot more.  **None of the links she spoke about at the end are available; that is why none of them are posted. **To see HOT pics of JESSA plus my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off Drive AND LOAD Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://butterwellness.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Use the code “STRICTLY” at checkout for 20% off your entire order ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get your first month of the new Blewchew Max FREE! use code: STRICTLYANON ⁠https://beducate.me/pd2520-anonymous ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code anonymous to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14 day money back guarantee    Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:04:04 and it's going to take you right there. Okay, today I have on Jessa. Jessica came highly recommended by one of my callers. Kyle, he's been on my show many times. Kyle's very involved in the swinger scene in Florida, which is a very big scene, by the way, okay? That's where a lot of shit goes down. And Kyle knows how to find the crazy girls,
Starting point is 00:04:22 and Jessa is a crazy girl. She went from being very vanilla, okay, to being very not vanilla. She's had orgies, ging-bings. She's nerdy cum dump on Twitter. So she's into come. She could deep throat. She's a big size queen. She's not picky at all.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Okay, wait until you hear, like, what she's into, what kind of guy she likes, and where she meets guys, all the parties she's gone to with Kyle, and the things that she's tried and her good experiences and her back. experiences. I got to wrangle her in a lot when we're talking. She has a little bit of ADHD, but you'll be able to follow and you'll enjoy her. She did say at the end she's getting into porn, but you know, you'll have to listen to see what that means. She's not really there yet, but that's like her next step, like she wants to get into Onlyfans and stuff, but she does have a Twitter and she does give a shout-out to that at the end. She's also on SDC and she's got
Starting point is 00:05:17 a popular profile there that she's going to turn on. You could check her out there. She'll give a shout to it at the end. But anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Jess. Oh, hey, Jessa. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? I am doing great. How are you?
Starting point is 00:05:31 Good. I'm doing good, Jess. I don't know much about you, but what I do know sounds like pretty salacious. You're like a vanilla girl turned porn star and you're like, I want to talk about going from vanilla to porn and all the cocks in between. Something like that. That was about all I know about you. You did come highly recommended by a.
Starting point is 00:05:52 a guy who's been on my show, and we were talking about this before I pressed to record. It's a guy named Kyle. Now, Kyle has given me some really filthy episodes, okay? He knows how to tell a dirty story. Let me tell you. Okay, and he's been on my show before. He sent you my way because he knows my audience. They love nothing more than to hear a girl like you, a girl who love sex on the show.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Okay, you're like the real deal. How did you, like, what is, like, where, like, what I typically like to do is start with, like, where you're at right now. Are you a married woman? Are you divorced? Are you single? What's your deal? Forever single.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Forever single. Okay, great. Apparently. Apparently, what does that mean? Oh, I can't seem to date anymore. You're not into it. But you have dated in the past, but never got married or anything like that, right? But you have dated in the past.
Starting point is 00:06:39 You're not interested in it right now. No, vanilla dated. Right. I'd love to date if I could find the right person who could put up with me. Right. I get it. I have a lot. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:06:48 I never got married. Never wanted to get married. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. you know what I mean. I feel like a lot of times when people have never been married, they feel like they need to explain themselves. Not everyone wants to fucking get married to the one person in their whole life. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I don't know. True. True. Sorry. Okay. So now you never been married. But now when did you like switch off from being vanilla to being like, you know, becoming quote unquote just,
Starting point is 00:07:11 Jessa because that is your poor name too. Oh, that was just a few months ago. What? Months? And did you? No, for that much of a switch, it's been months. Or in the switch over to the lifestyle, we're talking when I met Kyle. Yeah, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Let's talk about when you met Kyle. We'll get up to the point where a couple months ago happens, right? But let's go all the way back to when you met Kyle. Because you guys live in an area where the lifestyle is very big, and there's a big community there. You met Kyle. He's very much in the lifestyle single guy. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:07:41 So what brought you as a single woman into the lifestyle, or were you dating somebody at the time? Oh, well, no. I have a young man for a lover who, I found who he found me on Hinge. And apparently one day he signed up for the website, SDC.com. Oh, that's my place.
Starting point is 00:08:01 That's SDC. I have like, I have free trials for any of my listeners. Use code 37712 or go to the description. There's a link. You had a free trial for SDC. So he had signed up for SDC on his own. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Okay. And he said, oh, hey, I used our pictures and videos. I said, oh, why don't you come over to I play so you can show me, you know, so he could be within arms reach to murder him if I had to. Okay. Because I'm like, you put our naughty videos up just up for anybody to see. That was before I, you know, I'm like, I was going to kill him. He came over.
Starting point is 00:08:35 He showed me SDC. Started looking around. It was, I don't know. I just, instead of murdering him, we wound up live streaming that night instead. And then I joined SDC about a week later. Oh, my God. That is so funny. So you.
Starting point is 00:08:50 And that was back in Miami. Before I met Kyle, I was living in Miami at the time. I hadn't met Kyle. That was my introduction to the lifestyle period. And then when you get to Kyle, it ramps. Okay, but wait, we don't need to get to Kyle just yet. Let's stick at this young guy. So you're banging like this young guy.
Starting point is 00:09:05 He gets you on that site. And you are like somehow turned on by the fact that other people are watching you and you decide to go online and like have sex with him while people are watching you on on SDC live. Yes. Right. Right. Never done it before my life.
Starting point is 00:09:18 And was that like the biggest turn on for you? it was then yeah okay i hadn't done that before right so you liked it and then you decided to join and now when you got onto cc did you continue to live stream or were you just looking for other guys like what were you doing on there yourself when you went on solo nobody really wanted to live stream with me everyone is like no hide my face no look at me because they weren't really live streaming your face too oh i do you do and always have been since the store how do you give head and not live stream your face i don't know you know what i mean people do right i mean like what do you're like what do you you go, how are you going to, you're going to take a picture of just his balls?
Starting point is 00:09:54 I don't know, you know, some people are just having sex, so you could live stream sex without showing your faces, you know, I don't know. Oh, true, no, we just did head, so it had to be my face or you wouldn't see anything. Oh, okay, well, you didn't specify. Okay, so you, like, live streamed, you blowing him, so there was your face. You were like, fine. Just like, forgot natural, completely. Just like, what song?
Starting point is 00:10:13 Never done this before in my life. Never thought I would, but, oh, natural, why not? But let me ask you this. Like, what do you, like, do you not have any problem with people? sort of knowing what you do and, you know, no, no reason to hide this part of your life, right from the ghetto? No, I mean, I don't want my work to know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:31 But, or my parents. But other than that, you know, at least I don't have children to embarrass. Like, I can only embarrass my dog so much. Right. Okay. So there was like no problem. Like, you weren't worried that someone would see you, find out what you're doing. You're like out and proud.
Starting point is 00:10:44 If somebody in the world, look, if they know where I got it, I'm going to turn around that. I'm going to turn that around on them and go, how did you? you know where were you and why are you talking to me about this? This is entirely inappropriate. Right. Or you're on SDC too. Or you're on SDC too. So they're like having fun as where'd you see me? Porn or a porn or swinger. Right. It's like whatever you do, acknowledging that just wraps you up in me. I can't get in trouble. Yeah, no, listen, I respect your feelings like that. You know what I mean? You're very clear. You didn't give a fuck. You're like out and proud right from the get-go. You go on to SDC. You're, you want to live stream with people, but no one
Starting point is 00:11:19 wanted to? A lot of guys are shy. Or, you know, they're married. They don't want, they, they are afraid their jobs will know they have tattoos. It requires editing now, so. Yeah. Okay. So you, uh, so what happened next?
Starting point is 00:11:31 Like, did you, like, did you wind up over in the lifestyle at a swinger party that you found on SDC or something? Somebody reached out, actually, and invited me to a private little house party. Okay. So, and I told them, okay, oh, this is going to be my first time. I figured, okay, a small little house party, probably saved. good, talk to the host, seem real nice, said first time. And that actually, that party really didn't go that great. It was my first time. I said I wouldn't have a good time and I basically spent
Starting point is 00:11:59 three to four hours giving head to the host. Had sex with one guy and then after that right back to the host and it's like just nothing else really. And I'm like, this wasn't really fun. Well, what did you want to do that first time? I mean, that's kind of like, at least have two drinks. They handed me a drink and then put me on a cock. I'm like, excuse me? Oh, so you, like, had to work the whole time is what you're saying. Basically, yeah, I could not get a break. It's like every time I was trying to get a break, somebody, hey, can I see you? I'm like, okay, sure, hi.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Oh, my God. Okay, so you went to that first part. That was your first entree in, but you did go pretty far if you asked me for your first time. Doven, doven with both feet. Yeah, totally. So now, are you strictly dickly or are you, like, into women, too? Or are you, like, only into guys? I'm strictly dickly, but women are beautiful.
Starting point is 00:12:43 If they want to touch me and do anything, that's fine. I'm probably not going to reciprocate, but I don't care in the least. Right. Like if you're in a pile of people, it's okay. Right. Who cares? So you not care. If the woman wants, if the woman is turned on and wants to eat my pussy, great.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Right. I'm not fair. Okay. So what happened? So after that party, were you like, oh, I want to continue in, like, to continue to, you know, go into the lifestyle and go to parties and stuff? Actually, at that point, I was starting to have bad experiences because Miami is, Miami is a rude city.
Starting point is 00:13:15 and the people there also rude. There's a lot of machismo. There's a lot of posturing. There's a lot of people being rough for no reason. It's not a friendly town. Now that it's summer, want to turn up the heat in your bedroom. Well, then you need to try Begucate.
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Starting point is 00:15:05 because Miami is, Miami's a rude city. And the people there are also rude. There's a lot of machismo. There's a lot of posturing. There's a lot of people being rough for no reason. It's not a friendly town. Wow, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Right. So, but then I move up here. And I start going around. I met Kyle. I imagine just a couple of months into moving up here. And he's much gentler. He's so, he's nice. He's got, as you say,
Starting point is 00:15:36 he tells an excellent story. So he's telling all these great stories and I'm like, oh, that sounds like fun. Can I try that? Yeah. And he finds a party. He tells me what it's going to be like. We go.
Starting point is 00:15:48 We talk to the organizer who meets us there and said, oh, let me bring you one or two guys. Get on a bed. There's one or two guys, which quickly multiplies into four, than eight and 12. And you're first, wait, is this your second party? Or no.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Second party. First real greedy girl party. The non-house party. this is a hotel orgy party, he brought me to a BBC party. That's Kyle. That's Kyle. That's Kyle. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Oh my God. Wait, so you're like 12 BBC, like guys with a BBC? I think he said I took 10 that night, eight or 10. Oh, and that was your, you might be in my book. How long ago does this happen? It was last year. It had to have been, you know. Yeah, I was like wondering if he's told me about you.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Okay, so. Oh, he told me. He told you about me. Oh, so you might be in my book. Like this story might be in my book. I might be. There's three women he talks about in my book. And he's talked about on my show.
Starting point is 00:16:42 You might be one of them. So you go in that first night, literally, like you have never been with, have you ever been before that with more than one guy at a time? Besides like blowing the guy and everything that you did that one party. Like had you ever been? I think I did a threesome and that had been it. Okay. So wow. So you had like a gang bang.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Yeah. And how well? I mean, it wasn't just me, mind you. It was a hotel party with lots of, with other women. Right. But still, there are 12 guys and you. Now, how was that for you? Great. I came home like that. What did I do? Oh, you're talking about 10 or 12. What? Right. Now, what that ever, I had fun. Did you have fun? I had fun. Was that always a, are you okay? Was that always a fantasy of yours at all? Because it turns out that gang bank porn is something that a lot of women watch. Did you ever know that that was like your thing or no?
Starting point is 00:17:35 No, I had no idea. I had no idea. I could do this. Right? This all comes as a huge surprise to me too. I'm just like, okay. Apparently just you can yes and yourself into this. Yeah, but did you like, did you have a million orgasms? Was it like a great night? Oh no, I get one. I didn't have any. No, I didn't have any. I'm a one and done like a guy. Yeah, though that's like me. I mean, I could come again like 20, 30 minutes, you know, but I need time in between, you know, if I'm really, you need a nap. Why do you have a really hardcore orgasm? Yeah. Like they go under the body twitches, the screaming. It takes me a good minute or so. Right. Okay. So now that time, so you did 10 guys, but you enjoy it, even though you're not like coming each to the guy.
Starting point is 00:18:19 I did. Very sore, but oh, loved it. Okay. So then do you continue? Now, did you fuck Kyle that night? Yeah. You bet I did. He finished me off.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And I'm pretty sure I don't quite remember that night perfectly, but I know, I'm pretty sure every time we do a house party, he will fuck me at some point. during the night because the women are there for big black cock. They don't know he's got a big Irish cock. Exactly. He's always invited, even though he's white, because he's got a big white cock. He's a BWC, right? That's what they call him.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yeah, he likes to say big Irish cock, you know, that's him. Yeah, yeah, totally. Okay, so you did, it's fuck Kyle. Now, now do you and him become like a pair and you start to go to all the parties and stuff that he does, goes to? We're not an official pair, but, you know, he's just discovered a new slut that loves to do this. so he's excited to take me and we're going because, you know, he just, he finds women.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Yeah. Well, what else have you done? So after that gangbing, like, what happens next? Oh, my, I cannot recall. I know we went to the party the month after. Like, so there's got to be a lot of stuff that happened. I mean, how long ago? Oh, yeah, a lot of stuff happens.
Starting point is 00:19:25 It just runs together. Yeah, yeah. It's okay. So just it doesn't have to be totally chronological. I won't know if it's not. But like, you know, what, like after your gangbying experience, you start going to clubs with him? Do you continue to the hotel takeover parties? Are you on SCC meeting people? Like, what are you doing? Oh, no, I've been on SDC. Yeah, no, I've been on
Starting point is 00:19:42 SDC. I don't have my account is inactive currently, but eventually I'll get a lifetime account, which I want, so. Right. But when you were on there during this time, are you continuing to meet people on there, or now you're just going to, like, parties and stuff? If they'll meet me, yes. Oh, no, I mean, I go to, I used to go to more parties with, because Kyle would, I don't want to go alone. I need support. I get tired or I also want somebody to watch my back. Because sometimes men and alcohol do not mix well. So what was the next party or club that? Or what's another party or club that child? No, I think we did the same hotel party the next month. Oh, wow. Okay. And what happened that time? Do you remember? Same thing? I think the first time I took eight and the second time
Starting point is 00:20:25 he said I took 10 or 12. Oh, so it was the second time he did 10 or 12. First time like eight, second time 10 or 12. and Kyle's included in that? Well, no, actually he does not include him. I don't think he includes himself in the count. Oh, my God. But take me through those parties. Like, how are they laid out? What's going down?
Starting point is 00:20:42 What kind of people are there? Oh, they get like two hotel suites. Or last time it was a really, really big, like one of their real big, I guess, presidential suites that's even bigger on the inside of that. You haven't to open the door. And there's usually two bedrooms, two beds. So I guess four play areas. and that's it.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And you just, you go to fuck. There's, of course, you know, catering from the local grocery store because I don't know why, but submarine sandwiches are the lifestyle choice of sandwich. Is it me or does public cater the lifestyle? I'm sorry. Oh, my God. That's so funny. They don't even get the hotel to cater it?
Starting point is 00:21:19 Do you seriously not have, do they not bring rings of public subsamwiches there for snacks? That's what I get every orgy. Seriously? I am not joking except for a lady like SSS Sugar Baby on SDC she actually cooks her party's meals
Starting point is 00:21:38 so props I would think like sushi would be good at a party because you know it doesn't have to be it's like cold you could just pick at it it's like clean and light you know for three hours Oh actually they did that at one they actually they did at the last house party I was at I think and that went pretty fast
Starting point is 00:21:55 Yeah of course Okay so so and it's like because it's a BBC party. Is it all like black guys and white women? There were some black women there. And there were actually some white guys looking for some action. Although I think they were in the wrong place, but they were able to get it at least with me because I don't turn them down.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Right. And what are the women like? What, like, you know, are they across the board all different ages? They are size queens and queens of spades. Right. And queens and queens of spades are women that only fuck black ones. Right. Correct.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Do you consider yourself a size queen now that you've been like? Oh, I've been a size queen. Queen. I apparently all of my vanilla lovers were stacked. Really? And mind you, I grew up in the 80s and 90s. We did not have the internet. Porn isn't what it was. Porn was those magazines that were passed around
Starting point is 00:22:42 high schools used with the crumpled sticky pages. Yeah. Yeah, no guy, we had no idea. I thought sex was just supposed to hurt. Right, because you just always wound up hooking up with big dicks is what you're saying. Correct. And that I knew upon retrospect, I realized every single lover
Starting point is 00:22:58 I had that I was sexual, we've had a humongous stick up until I became lifestyle and started actually having sex with average men. Wow. Boy, what a change. Oh, really? Like, do you find it? I was like, I didn't know. I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:23:14 That these guys that you were with were the norm. No idea. They are not the norm. The guys I was with were not the norm. No, I know, because, like, I was in size queen because they had one boyfriend with a really big dick. And then it was, like, very hard to find that again. And I always make jokes.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Like, I fucked a lot of guys. and most guys don't have big dicks. Right. But for you. Completely vanilla, neither me nor the dude had any idea at that point. They were stacked. Oh, that's so funny.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Right. I mean, at this point in the lifestyle, though, it doesn't sound like you're seeing any normal guys because you're just going to these like size queen parties. Kyle. That well, I wouldn't say that. What do you mean? So, well, now Kyle takes you other places.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Like, where's the next place? Well, no, I find lots of people at my own, too. Right. So when you're on SDC, your profile back in those days when you were on there and you're looking for dick and all this stuff. Like what are you, is that what you're looking for? Is that what you're looking for a guy to have sex with? Like are you looking, you know, like what's your profile say at that point? Yeah, let's see. That one it said, I'm nerdy, a little kinky. I'm definitely a size queen. I don't remember what the heck else had said. I've changed it so many times. But were you always looking for like multiple guys? Oh, multiple guys. Oh,
Starting point is 00:24:34 that's your thing? Yeah, I'm always a size queen. Yeah. I mean, once I discovered that not every guy is stacked, it's like, oh, I have to stay with big dick guys.
Starting point is 00:24:44 So do you act like, how do you vet your guys when they were emailing you on SDC? Would you look at their dick pecks? Is that like what would be the kind of thing? They throw them at you. What do you mean? Ask them. They throw them at you.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Yeah, they're there. It's their profile, right? No, not even. When they start up the things, they will throw you their album, the password, and the photos. So it's like, here's the dick. Sometimes they don't say hi. They just dick photos, which I don't really like. Say hello.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Right. Use your mouth. Say hello first. But for someone like you, you do want that information though, right? Oh, no, I do want the information, yes. And I like that in the beginning, but at some point I'm like, you have to talk. Yeah, totally. Now, are you the type of person that cares more about the dick and you don't give a fuck about
Starting point is 00:25:25 the face? or are you very picky about the face and the body too? Like, what is your type of guy? I am really not picky. I am a satiosexual. Right. And that means explain what that means. I am more interested in the person's intelligence and personality.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I like a person for their person. I very rarely turned off. I can be turned off by physical appearance, but it is rare. And I do actually have a heavier lover right now, too. And what does that mean? Like a bigger guy? Yes. He would be considered, I believe,
Starting point is 00:25:55 morbidly obese. Not to shame him or anything. He's a very sweet guy. Oh, really? But you're into him because you like his personality. He has an impotent cock. It is maybe three inches max. It can barely get hard. Oh, wait a second. This is interesting. But he devours. He devours pussy like a woman. Really? So you are saying here is a guy that's morbidly obese. He doesn't have like even, he doesn't even have like that big cock that you like. He can't get hard. He cannot get hard. And he's small.
Starting point is 00:26:29 He can come, but he can't get hard. He got hard the moment before he came and that was it. Well, maybe he has an issue because he's more really obese with his blood flow, right? Like you probably, that's probably. No, he said he was born that way. And it's just been his cross to bear. He's had to accept it. Wow.
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Starting point is 00:29:39 Like you probably, that's probably. No, he said he was born that way. And it's just been his cross to bear. He's had to accept it. Wow. But he comes. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:48 And so, and now, okay, because you don't know that he's, like, great at going down on you when you meet him. Like, what, how do you wind up in bed with him to begin with? He flirted a lot. He was sweet. And I'm just like, oh, why not? You're a nerd like me. Come on. I, I am a total sucker for nerds like me.
Starting point is 00:30:07 So you just liked his personality? Yeah. And you went there. Yep. And he was, like, great at oral. I just love the personalities. Yep. and he's just a nice guy so
Starting point is 00:30:19 but you fuck him too can you fuck him I can't remember if he was ever able to get his cock in my bitchy to be honest with you so what do you normally do when you see him suck his cock I might have bounced on his lap
Starting point is 00:30:37 but I honestly cannot recall because I wouldn't have felt a thing right so you you give him oral and he services you too correct correct okay cool so you're on SDC a lot of guys hit you up. You see, now did you have a lot of rendezvous with like double guys, two guys, like,
Starting point is 00:30:54 and when you do hook up with- That's so hard. Oh my God. Trying to get three people, three strangers in the room at the same time. I can imagine. Yeah, I can imagine.
Starting point is 00:31:04 But like when- They had more time for sex, but no, apparently not. So did you have like a roster of guys that you found though on there that like, you know, you could meet up with and stuff? Do you make a lot of guys?
Starting point is 00:31:14 They have a roster. Do you? They go, well, no, guys will just stop talking to me after a while, so I can't really keep them. I prefer to have regular lovers. Right. But if they go, they go. I'm intense.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I'm nerdy. I have no chill. Maybe they just don't appreciate my personality. Right. But Kyle does because you're still talking to him. He is a consummate gentleman. Right. And he, you know, he's, you know, maybe he's, you know, likes you as a person, right?
Starting point is 00:31:47 I mean, I don't know. Yeah. Well, yeah, we've been talking. over a year and a half and we talk regularly. Yeah. So obviously, he still continues to enjoy your company. You're not too much for him. Oh, I consider him a true friend. I've got some of furniture. I think we're friends now.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Right. Okay. So, you know, you're getting a lot of guys over on SDC, but Kyle's like getting you very involved in the lifestyle and stuff. Correct. Yeah. He's showing me the entry. Yeah. Okay. So you're going to these BBC parties with him. Do you go to like regular swinger clubs after that? Like, when do you start to see all the small Dix. I've never really liked clubs. I'm not, I'm not good with loud music. And I have been to trapeze because I wanted to go and that was awful. How come? Oh, I don't really. I think there was a game on that night. It must have been a big game. I heard nobody bothered showing up till midnight.
Starting point is 00:32:39 And I've heard also, the club doesn't kick up. People won't even just, just, boy, people don't fuck until like two or three in the morning. Why do you open the club at nine? Why? Just why? Right. Why don't you open the club at midnight or later if nobody's going to fuck until then? Why do people just sit there? They don't dance. They don't stand. They don't look at people.
Starting point is 00:32:58 They don't talk to people. There was literally a room full of people just staring at nobody doing anything. And I'm just like, what am I supposed to be getting about? Why is this place amazing? There's literally nobody in the back room having sex. Nobody's doing anything on the dance where there's a few naked women. That's uncomfortable. Almost midnight.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Yeah, I went from like nine to midnight. I'm like, why is it open if nothing's happening? and the music was terrible. Yeah, but was that the only club you ever tried? Because that sounds like a weird experience. Like, I've heard of a lot of people that go to a lot of Swingers' clubs and a lot of first-termers. Right, that's not the experience I was told. People sing the praises of this.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I know. That's why you need to give another club a chance. Like, just go to a different one. I mean, that one, like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't think you could judge them all by that one experience. You know, you didn't like that club. I wouldn't say, though you don't. I'm told, go on a different night and it'll be better.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Like, don't, I think, I might have gone on it. on a couple's night because a man took me so we were a couple so it's entirely possible it wasn't a night and I've heard the couples can be clickish right okay so it wasn't cool but now so okay so kyle continues though to get you involved like what do you do with him go mostly to like these house parties and these like hotel takeovers we haven't i haven't done a hotel takeover i don't think i'm quite ready for that i thought that first one was it wasn't a hotel takeover it was just a hotel party right no they just rent a couple hotelers. I haven't actually been to a hotel takeover. I want to. I'm just afraid. I know I can handle like 12, but also I've recently entered menopause and things have gone haywire. So I'm not sure
Starting point is 00:34:29 I can do a takeover yet. What do you mean? What's going haywire? What's happening? I entered perimenopause. My hormones are going nuts. Yeah, you just do you just do a little hormones that'll work that out. Yeah, I just got out the replacement. They didn't. They're not giving me enough testosterone. I'm like, where is my sex drive? I would like it. back now, please. Yeah, you need to get a little testosterone, and you need a little probably higher after. They have been a little tiny dose. I'm like, no, we need to wrap this up.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I have to find a doctor that will ramp me out. Yeah, some doctors just believe in like the lowest amount possible. And that will help. That will take a lot of the... It didn't help. No, no, no, no. It won't help with libido, but it'll help with waking up at night. No, no.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Oh, really? No. No. No. You just need more. You just need more. Literally. It was like I tried it for two weeks.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I'm like, oh, this is... No, no, no. You can't try to know. change. Sorry, but you can't try it for two weeks. It takes a little bit longer, but your hot flashes and sleeping through the night, that stuff should be pretty quickly changed, but other things take over time. Yeah, they talk about, they'll say dialed in, like it needs to get dialed in. You know, they need to build up in your system and dialed in me to wait five or six weeks. You can't say two weeks. This isn't fucking work. You know what I mean? It's going to take a little while to
Starting point is 00:35:39 build up. So give yourself a little time. Yeah, true. It's fair. Thank you. I appreciate the advice. Yeah, but you can't help. be nutty during that time because I've been there, done that, you know what I mean? I got on... Right, yeah, I've listened to every woman that's told me this and believe, yeah, all their voices are ringing in my head. I'm like, I know I listen, but you have to experience it. There's just nothing for it. Everything came true. I'm listening to all of them, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Yeah, but it'll take a little time, but there are, you know, like when you, you need maybe a doctor that's going to maximize your hormones. That's the word you want to hear when you go to places. And some doctors won't maximize you. They'll keep you at levels that are normal for your age that are just a little bit. slightly in the higher size. And that's not going to really give you that full effect that you want if you want to feel great again. I go to a doctor now that maximizes my hormone. So when I get my blood work done, my doctor was minimizing it. And I'm like, I like her. She's very nice. She does care about me,
Starting point is 00:36:31 but I need a doctor that will help me maximize because I don't feel like myself. She's going to see your blood work and say, oh, it's high. So you have to go low. You know what I mean? Like, but you're going to, when you're maximizing, you're going to be high and that's where you want to be. And some doctors that are very conservative won't let you go there. But anyway, let's keep going with your story because obviously you did have a sex drive before because you're doing all this stuff. What other kind of experiences have you had with Kyle? And like, have you done because you're doing all these guys at once and stuff and you're into it? Like, have you done like DP, DP, DVP, any of that kind of crazy stuff?
Starting point is 00:37:05 Apparently my pussy's too tight for that. At an orgy I was at, I said, I wanted it, I was vulgar. I'm like, I would love to try DVP because, you know, I had guys that are willing to do it because you have to have guys that white, white two penis is touching in a vagina is considered gay is beyond me. That seems to be the most heterosexual thing you can do. Exactly, right? It's very hard to get two guys comfortable with that. So I'm at an orgy where guys are comfortable with that.
Starting point is 00:37:30 I'm like, oh, it's my turn. I mean, maybe I can do this. And I'm like, oh, I want to try this. And so the host, who's basically directing the orgy because he likes that. He's a control freak. But the first thing he does is make fun of me. He says, hey, hey, this lady who's never had a baby wants to have two dicks in her pussy at the same time.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Like, uh-oh. Yeah. It didn't work. It didn't work? Why, you couldn't know. No, I was so sad. We couldn't fit. I tried.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Now, what about DVP? I mean, DP, would you ever do that or you're not into anal? I would, but my anal, my ass will not function. Like, a finger will have me absolutely screaming in pain and, like, I don't know what to do. Yeah, you got, it's like a hard thing. Like, if you could take your attention and put it to that area and learn how to, like, really be really turned on and then open there, you could relax into it. But it's a matter of being like very turned on enough that you are so relaxed that, you know, you could take anything.
Starting point is 00:38:24 And that's... You'd be relaxed at an orgy when I have to like to hold myself in weird positions. Yeah, I guess not. I don't know. But I like any action, but like, you know, and I think everybody would... I would love to try it. Yeah. You got to be in the right situation and maybe, you know, you need to be with a lover that's going to take it slow. Not in the middle of an orgy. No. And the problem, yeah, the problem is nobody ever does. They get so excited. They're like, they get the tip of their pinky and they're like, oh, you can take my cock. And I'm like, no, I can't.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Yes, you can. Let me try it. No, and you know what I say to those guys? Why don't you just shove something up in your ass right away without like getting to them? Yeah, at this point, I just know. Yeah, I put up with it for a little bit and then I'm, nope, nope, I'm 46, nope, out. Don't care. Out.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Okay, but you do like Dick. Let's get back to some of your good stories, okay, and work ourselves up to where you go and get into porn. Where you get into porn. Okay, so like, what are all these other cocks that you've had, you know, in between? Can you think of any other stories before you got into porn? We'll get to that place and that's like a couple months ago. But, you know, did you just go to those clubs like those parties with Kyle? Like, have you only been out with Kyle?
Starting point is 00:39:25 Basically. Okay. Yeah, basically. He's been my party buddy. Because I can't seem to find anybody else that's freaking go with me. They don't want to share me. It's like, but I want to go to a party. Oh, so your other guys that you see on the side that you've met on SDC, like your
Starting point is 00:39:41 other fuck buddies, booty call guys, like they won't. They won't go, they won't engage with you in those kinds of things. Well, that's okay. Yeah, a lot of them aren't comfortable. You have Kyle. What do you need more? He's always out and about, right? There's some, he's, he's been busy.
Starting point is 00:39:55 You know, he had a grandchild, so he's been busy. Okay. So tell me, so like, do you remember, like, what was the- But now he's a gilf, so that's awesome. Right. What went down at that orgy that you went to? I know you didn't get a full DVP, but like, how was that orgy and where was it? And what was the scene there?
Starting point is 00:40:11 Like, was that another hotel party? Oh, the couple is on. Well, the couple's on SBC. Their handles actually stay hard or stays hard or something. And, oh, you know them? No, I don't. I'm just as a funny handle. Because he's a firm believer in the erectile dysfunctional medication trimix, which is the injectable kind.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah, I just had someone bring it up to me. Correct. So, yeah, that's his play. And they're the hosting the orgies. They've been in the lifestyle over 15 years. The wife is bisexual. She's still lovely. The husband is in his 60s and also bisexual, I think.
Starting point is 00:40:48 And yeah, so he would have basically bisexual orgies at his house. And they were just a nice couple. So I felt safe going there and being with his people too. Oh, so you went alone to that orgy. Oh, no, no, no. That was at least they would invite two or three more couples. No, no, no. Who did you go in?
Starting point is 00:41:07 I'm myself. That's what I said. Oh, my God, you don't listen to what I said. Sorry. You went alone to that. No, I took Kyle to one, but he was uninvited after that. I don't know why they didn't like him, but I thought he was great. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:41:20 I like Kyle, so whatever, I'm biased. Okay, so just tell me about the orgy, though. How are those orgies set up and what goes down there? Well, they would have it in their house. They had their bedroom set up with two beds and inflatable couches. I mean, you're allowed to screw anywhere because it's a little two-bedroom, like Munkalo type deal. they put out fruit and drinks.
Starting point is 00:41:44 No sandwiches. Yeah. I say that. It's just so funny. It's always fruit in that. And basically, it's just people come and they talk and I help get things started a lot. Because I'm there to fuck. How do you do that?
Starting point is 00:41:58 The host knows I'm there to fuck. So the first thing when he's like, well, I'm tired of all this tig, this talking that the wives are doing, let's go fuck. And he will take me by the hand and drag me to the bedroom where we start engaging an oral or fucking. Right. And then everyone joins in. Yes. Usually.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Sometimes they do actually just want to talk. Right. But you like to fuck when you're those. Correct. I'm like, with all due respect, I love seeing all the people that I know and getting caught up,
Starting point is 00:42:25 but I can also do that with a cock in my mouth. Right. So at those orgies, do you typically like fool around with a lot of different guys? Like, are you having... All of them. What do you mean? All of them.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Every male that is there that wants to have sex with me can have sex with me. I do not. I don't. When I'm at a party, everybody is there to have a good time. And they're all there to have sex and feel sexy and be good. And I don't give a fuck what you look like. I really don't care what your cock looks like at that point. Because even if you have a small one, somebody else probably is a big one or somebody else will do something to me and satisfy me. So I don't have to turn down lovers for any reason. You're down. I'm down. I'm here to have fun and make sure that you have fun. What's the most amount of guys you've done in one night? Is it the 12? Okay. Now, how do you stay safe? Do you do testing? Do you go bareback? Is it always condoms always? I used to be condom only and eventually I moved into riskier behavior where I would go without and then go out of parties. And now it's absolutely not it's bareback only.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Now it's bareback only. And you stay safe by constantly testing. Is that what you do? I test every, no, I test every quarter. But if I felt sick for a second. If I felt sick for a moment, I would. I would. I do it. Sorry. I have somebody over. I might have picked up a 20-year-old stranger at work and brought him home and had sex with him and disallowed him. But that's the time for another story. Well, we could get to that. And he's watching me have this conversation with you.
Starting point is 00:43:53 I hope he's not distracting you because I need your fucking attention, okay, to get a good. No, no, I'm sitting alone. I'm staring at him watching his facial expressions because he has no idea. He just learned I was into porn. He's like, what the fuck? This is all in him in the last day or two. Okay, we'll get to your 20-year-old. but so at these parties
Starting point is 00:44:10 so you you test like you test a lot and now do you make your partners test? Because like if you go to these house parties and stuff and you're like you know anyone, you're down for anyone there. Are these parties like are people vetted ahead of time? Do they have to show tasks?
Starting point is 00:44:22 Do you know? No. They don't have to show tests. They're vetted in that the host. Usually with the one, the person I was playing with the origin of the last time he would tell me, oh, I've known these people 10 years.
Starting point is 00:44:32 I've been playing with them for 15 years. These are also not wild. I understand. You can't necessarily look at somebody and no, but these are not wild people. I don't believe that they're sick or take drugs. They were, some of them were using condoms at the orgy. You know, I tend to play with an older set, to be honest. Right, but you're playing with people that fuck a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:44:54 So you don't, you just don't think about like you're doing. I try not to. You don't think about, yeah, you definitely don't. You don't have a like that. Oh, no, I think about it, but I try not to. I have to compartmentalize or I can't function. If I start thinking about that, it will land me into a spiral of terror because what I'm doing is functionally unsafe. So you're an all or nothing kind of person.
Starting point is 00:45:16 So you're like, I'm either going to be paranoid and never do anything and I'm going to be crazy. Why would you put your naked cock in my mouth, but not my pussy? Well, yeah. It's not safe. No, no, no. I know I had an STI guy on who owns shameless care.com. That's a great place to do testing because let me tell you what his test will do if you buy it from him. And you should probably do it at least once you're his way.
Starting point is 00:45:36 he will do a throat swab on you. Like there's a throat swab test that you need to do as well. Oh, no, no. The place I go does it every time I go to. Oh, they do. See, that's the proper way to get tested. Because like you say,
Starting point is 00:45:48 and you know, you could get it in your mouth, the same way you could get it in your pussy. It happened to me. That's the only time I've gotten oral gano. Oh, and did you know, or did you just get swabbed and then you found out? Or did you have symptoms of oral? I had symptoms that I saw him on a Sunday,
Starting point is 00:46:04 a Sunday night. Yeah. And I had to figure it out later on who it was. No, this is interesting to me, but walk me through it. You blew him. That's what you did. Yeah, I mean, we had full on sex too, without a condom. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I was already going to get tested that Wednesday because I had taken some time off from work. I have to take time off to get tested because I go to a free clinic with the AIDS Health Care Foundation. They do the good thorough testing for free. Yeah, that's cool. But only during the day, like, afternoons. Yeah, I get it. certain days. So, yeah. So I was already going to go get tested and my throat started really hurting and I thought I just had a cold, but it was swollen, it hurt, it hurt, to breathe, it hurt to eat.
Starting point is 00:46:47 I'm like, this is a nasty sore throat. Why am I not sniffling? And I got tested like usual. They swam off my throat. Came back Friday morning. You have Oralgano. Friday afternoon in back into the clinic because thankfully their hours were Wednesday and Friday and I got treated that afternoon. that's kind of that's interesting that you had that I didn't even know that that was a thing until this guy who started this company he's a swinger and he's in that world and then he started this whole big company and you know he had a case of oral gun and he had no idea by the way and sometimes it can be asymptomatic and people don't realize that you could get it in your throat you know men yeah yeah yeah yeah and you can share that by kissing yeah mm-hmm or you can give that oral gano becomes chena logano when she gives you head right if you gave somebody head while you had that right right Yeah, crazy. Thankfully, I did not. Right. So why did you decide to make the turn into porn?
Starting point is 00:47:41 How did that come about? I met a porn star. And he's like, if I can do it, anyone can do it. And he must have, there are men like Kyle and him, they just sense a slut. I think, like I have, I can sense BDE, they can sense a slut. Maybe it's big clit energy. I don't know what you want to call it. But wait a second.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Where do you meet this guy? SDC. And he is a porn star. Now, I'm assuming you're just like meeting him to hook up at first and he tells you what he does. And then he's the one that said you should do it too. No, he told me before we met. Okay. He was very clear.
Starting point is 00:48:15 He was full disclosure before we met. He was a porn star. Yeah, but did he want you to fill porn with him or did he just want to hook up with you? No. No, I just wanted to hook up. Okay. So what was your first meeting like? We met.
Starting point is 00:48:27 He at a, I guess he had a friend who had a little bar restaurant. just met him there for drinks and then we went to we talked a lot. He told me about the porn industry. He told me, gave me some of the stories and eventually, of course, then we went to my place and had sex. How was he considering he's a porn star? Is there any difference fucking a porn star?
Starting point is 00:48:49 Yes, they're terrible. Usually. What about him? Well, honestly, the young ones are terrible. This one is more closer to my age and he knows how to fuck a woman. He can fuck for a girl. He can fuck for a girl.
Starting point is 00:49:01 He can fuck for anything. He was fine. He was pretty good. Okay, cool. He's got a nine incher and he likes to shove it in. Oh, my God, ow. You could take that nine inches? I can take that.
Starting point is 00:49:11 I can take up to 10 at least. Can you deep throw? I don't know if, oh, yes. You can. Did you learn that recently? I can deep throw 10. Yes, only in the last three years. And in the last few months, my throat just now opens up automatically.
Starting point is 00:49:24 And if you're thin enough, I can just like put you in. And we're talking like three to four fingers with. Wow. Did you teach yourself? No, like two fingers. with. Yeah. Yes, I did. I didn't watch anything. I just figured out my throat. By shoving things down it, like while you're playing with yourself or something like that? No, no, I don't play with myself. I does turn me on, but I never play with myself. I'm too busy focusing on what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Wait a second. You never, what do you mean you never play with yourself? You've never masturbated? I don't know. I rarely masturbate. Interesting. You never have, really? I do. No, no, no. I do masturbate. To say I don't play with myself as a total. I do masturbate. It's very rare. And have you been like that your whole life? Yep. I never used to masturbate until three years ago. Wow, that's interesting. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Yeah, that's okay. But you're having a lot of fun. It's like you're fucking a lot. So it's not like you're not getting it anywhere. You know, I'm like maybe you don't need it. So, and what about porn? Did you ever watch any porn? No.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Right. I don't even like watching porn. Yeah, that's kind of interesting that you're doing it and you don't even like it and didn't even know anything about. Right. Right. You see my, my, my. Why? How? How did this happen? So tell me how it happened. So you meet this guy you fuck in. You're hooking up with him. He's a porn star. You're not. How does it happen that you wind up doing it?
Starting point is 00:50:41 So during our talking portion, he's literally telling me about the business and how easy it is. And I'm just like, no, it's real work. I'm not sure my body can handle it. I understand that it's self-promotion and self-promotion is a 24. It is a real job to put yourself out there and push yourself so people notice and will pay you. Yeah. And I haven't quite hit that part yet, but I'm trying. He's been holding my hand and saying, do this, do that, do this, do that. Make sure you do this. Stay safe here. Do this. Do this. Don't ever do this. Don't ever do that. Don't ever do that. Don't like I do that. You know, he's really been a very good mentor. What is your first step into it? Like, what did you do? Well, he says you're already doing, because I'm already having sex with lots of guys and doing apparently freaky things. Like to me, I don't understand why it seems so natural to me because it shouldn't. This has never been my personality. I've been the shrinking violet, the one that hides away and runs away from cameras. Correct. I was fat.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I got thin, when I was in 42, I'm now 46. Oh, okay. How did you lose all the weight? All of a sudden, like at 42. What did you do? Oh, my gosh. Oh, you're not weed. It helped.
Starting point is 00:51:47 And if you smoke enough of it, if you're doing it every day as much as I did, because I knew I needed it medically. So I had to get used to side effects and all that. It will, instead of raising your appetite, kill it. It's a well-known side effect. Oh, so you stopped eating. Yeah, I didn't know it did that, but that didn't hurt. And I wound up, I just, you know what? I hate breakfast.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Breakfast, I just decided I didn't want to eat breakfast or deal with it. So I just don't eat until 1230. And because I go to bed at nine, I'll stop eating at like seven or eight. Yes, so you start doing intermittent fasting. Right. And then your stomach, my stomach starts shrinking, shrinking, shrinking. And as my stomach shrank, and then as I lost weight, I just naturally became more active, especially at my job, little by little normal routines, cleaning more, going out to the store more,
Starting point is 00:52:33 just increasing my daily activity without being, like, so I could sneak it up on myself without being in a gym. Yeah, no, that totally makes sense. So that was like a big change for you. And then 110 pounds later, and I'm just like how. Yeah, that's amazing. So that really changed your life and how you felt about yourself. Maybe you felt like really sexy and now you want to fucking live it up. I've had plenty of people on my side.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I thought I was cute enough to date. No, when I got on the dating scene at 43, I honestly had no clue. I did not understand what the dating scene was like. I'm just like I thought at 43 I would be ignored because I'm an older woman. I'm not a pretty 20 something looking for marriage. I'm like I guess I'll get whatever drags and I joined Tinder. and my inbox is flooded with 20-somethings. Yeah, like that guy right next to you.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Yeah, that's a normal thing. I don't know where you were living under a fucking rock. That's like I've been happening for a long time now. Like the young guys, you know, some young guys that are ready to settle down. And, you know, it's a lot of work with the younger girls. It's a totally different scene. So a lot of them look to older women because they know that they could just like fuck and not have to deal with anything.
Starting point is 00:53:39 You know what I mean? So there's a lot of younger guys that seek that kind of arrangement out at certain times in their life. And it's a very great combination. And it's a great combination. You know, it really works because the young guys are they're so fucking horny. They could fuck a lot. The women in perimenopause are super horny, you know, most of the time right before you start to lose it, you're hornier than ever. So it's perfectly matched. When I was 40, I was like fucking a 25 year old for my gym. And it was like great. You know, and it makes sense. And that's been something that's more common nowadays. And to me, it makes sense of why it's a good match for fun,
Starting point is 00:54:13 you know, for sure. Right. Yeah. But just it didn't occur to me. I thought it was something that happened in porn. Yeah, but you didn't watch porn so you don't know anything. Or like, excessively gorgeous women. Or it happened like in the movies with really gorgeous women.
Starting point is 00:54:25 And I'm like, I'm not. Yeah. You were living in the real world. Okay. Correct. Yeah. So now you're living in the crazy world. Now you're still not in the real.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Right. You see where I was and where I came. Right. That's the mentality I entered the dating scene with. Yeah. And then you went full on. in such the craziest way, you know, for sure. I guess handed myself into it, I think.
Starting point is 00:54:47 I just, I have not, there's been, if there's anxiety, I won't do it because I'll break down. I suffer with high anxiety and I'll, I will melt down and break down. And so the anxiety isn't there. I wouldn't be doing it. So, we just need to get back to the porn thing. So, you know, so the guy says you should do it. You're doing all this for fun anyway. Why not like do it for money?
Starting point is 00:55:07 Is that what it's about? Right. Exactly. He's like, you're already doing it. You're already having sex. You're already getting it on film. you already like to go to parties and do this and need to be exhibition, why not get paid? How do you argue with that?
Starting point is 00:55:19 Right. So you're like, yeah. But the problem is. Uh-huh. Right. That's what, but I'm also like, yes, but nobody knows me. Nobody knows who I am. And then begins the massive self-promotion, which I know I'm naturally terrible at.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Yeah, but let me ask you this. Do you start like filming stuff? Have you filmed stuff? Like, you know, what have you? Not officially. Nothing. I'm not a porn star or anything. I'm trying to.
Starting point is 00:55:41 but no I mean yeah I film on my own all the time with who like with your lovers yep and are they okay with being in on the on film and do they know that maybe you have plans to post this somewhere or something they know that I'm going to post if I take video I tell them I'm going to put this on there I don't ever get their face in if I can help it if I do get their face and I cut that stuff out I don't allow that to be seen
Starting point is 00:56:05 but I know I have to do I don't put it on Twitter I would only put it on SDC because it's already like gated by a paywall. And that's not, that's not a place where I don't really need to worry about them being ashamed there. But how do you intend on Twitter? But how do you intend on monetizing it like by going on only fans or going on X videos or something? Like what is your plan?
Starting point is 00:56:27 Yeah. Well, right now I'm on Twitter trying to grow whatever. I'm on only fans, but I have no idea with the post. I'm struggling because I don't know what to do. I don't know how to promote myself. Oh, yeah, you need some work before. I mean, it's like, I mean, because like people will go and check you out if you have shit on there, but do you have nothing on your only fans? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Yeah. I've got people on Twitter who'd love to see it. Yeah, and just so you know, on only fans, like when you have other people in your videos, there's like they have to fill in forms. You need a release form. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, you know, maybe porn is not going to be for you, but you got to figure this all out. It is a whole job.
Starting point is 00:57:03 It's not, it's not like easy. Like, yeah, you can make money, but it's not as easy as what you're doing now, right? What you're doing now is you're going out, you're fucking, you're having fun. Like, if you want to turn it into something that you want to make money, everyone thinks it's like a fucking joke, these only fans, girls are making millions, what losers are like, no, they're not losers. They're working their ass off and it's a 24-7 thing. And it's very hard to build a platform and make any kind of money.
Starting point is 00:57:24 So you might wind up just like sticking to what you do. But, you know, what you can do is like if you post a lot on SDC, you know, you get a big following over there because people love that. My account is very popular when it's on. Oh, yeah, that's cool. Why don't you give a shout out to all your stuff? stuff. Why don't you give a shout out to your Twitter and your SDC? You're going to send me some hot picks for my Patreon and I'll give you free access to there so you can see the comments as well
Starting point is 00:57:46 as free access to my Discord and there you could post whatever you want. Gotcha. Well, my Twitter is at Nerdy Kumbdom, which yeah, I know. Do you love Kahn? I love Kahn. Oh my God. Why don't we talk about this? Why did we talk about this the whole time? Oh, I got stories. You only got through a portion of it. If you ever want to talk again, we can. Yeah, we're going to need to. We could do a whole job. Three years and all this. I guess I have done a lot.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Yeah, you're a little all over the place. I had to get your whole backstory, but maybe we'll do another one where we just get these things. So nerdy cum dump. Right. Is your X account, right? That's the X account. And then for SDC, when my talent goes active again, it's just nerdy gal. Nerdy gal?
Starting point is 00:58:33 Mm-hmm. Okay, cool. You should put it out. Like, you know, if I were you, because you'll get, I have a big audience and they're going to go looking for you. You know what I mean? If you want some action and some attention, if I were you, I'd like, like, turn your SDC thing on when you're up, when I tell you your episode is going up, you know, in case you
Starting point is 00:58:53 want people to go and check it out. Yeah, true. I should at least leave the profile active. It's expired, but, you know, I could let people look at it, I'm sure. Yeah, sign up, sign up. And we'll definitely have you back on it. Maybe next time we will bring you on with Kyle, because he might be able to direct you a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:59:09 That's why I wanted him here. That was, not to talk, but to keep me focused and directed. Sorry, I should have warned you. I have severe ADHD and, yeah, the riddling just, it wears off. You take it at 8.30 in the morning and it's, what, seven? Could you just listen to me first of all? Like, you see how many times like, sorry? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:59:26 I'm just what I'm trying to explain is I cut you off a million times because I know how to deal with people like you. I'm at over a thousand episodes. I'm like out of my 1100s and the 23rd episode, okay? I've talked to millions of people. You think I haven't talked to another person that had ADHD. You're not the first one, okay, don't worry about it. I know how to wrangle people in.
Starting point is 00:59:42 I know how to interrupt. Yeah, I was trying. I realized you were trying to, and I'm like, I got to let her wrangle me. Yes, I have to. I know what I'm doing. And that's totally cool. I bet, you know, you're not the first one that I had to. But that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:59:53 But I will have you back on to get more stories. I mean, now you're like a cum dump. You know guys love girls that love cum. They love it. That's what I'm told. Yeah, go back to your young guy. Do me a favor, Jess. Your poor guy, you have a lot to, now he's,
Starting point is 01:00:08 going to grill you like me. He probably has so many questions after he heard just one side of that conversation. No, I was I was telling him about this. Well, I've been talking to him at breaks at work because he just showed up at my work. And yeah, no, I've just been filling him in like, oh, hey, buzz what I do porn. Here's my Twitter. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Well, okay, so listen, send me some hot picks, some R-rated picks for my Patreon, anonymous picks. That's what typically people send me anonymous. Oh, you want me to cut off my head? Yeah, most people do. And like, you know, for my p.m. It's like lingerie shots or like beating, you know, like people. Oh, no, no. Yeah, I have those. I have those. I'm going to send those to you with my head cut off. Yeah, perfect. And then for my, for Discord, you could go in there and post
Starting point is 01:00:49 yourself and you could promote whatever you want. Say, hey, follow me on Twitter, blah, blah, blah. And you could post X-rated stuff there. It's a not safe for work site. You'll see all the crazy stuff going in there. Right now, I have a pussy pick contest. I mean, it's already closed, but like I just ran that. I had a dick pick contest. I have a lot of listener, or my listeners have the biggest dick. I got to tell you, go look through my dick pick contest. There's like 150 pretty big ticks on there. I was like, oh my God. So I'll give you free access, though, to both of those places.
Starting point is 01:01:16 But send me your pick sooner than later because I'm not going to put it up this Monday because it's a holiday. Your episode will most likely be up the following Monday, okay? So make sure do send me your stuff? Yeah, but just, you want me to just send it through the email? Yeah, you can. So that's preferable. Well, however you want it, I'll send it. No, send it via email.
Starting point is 01:01:33 That's the easiest way for me to get it. All right? Thank you so much for calling in and switching your time. and everything. And I'm definitely having you back on, Jessa, okay? Thank you so much. It was wonderful to talk to you. Tell Kyle, thanks for hooking this up, okay? Of course. All right, bye, by, Jessa. Bye-bye.
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