Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1169 - Jay Went from Being a Bull, to Being a Stag, to Being a Cuck to Now Topping Guys for his Hotwife?!

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

Jay went from being a bull, to being a stag, to being a cuck and now he’s topping guys for his hotwife and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear him discuss all the details including how far he had done during threesomes with guys previously, how he felt about guy on guy action before he tried it, how and why he felt weird about hooking up with guys at first, how and why it was his wife (Sheila ep 917) who got him into it at first, the first guy they met who he wound up topping and how rewound up topping the guy and exactly what went down during their MMF threesome, the second guy they played with who he topped as well and exactly what went down with him during their hook up, how surprised he was when he saw his downloads when he posted his guy on guy content, the red flags that turn both him and his wife off when shooting bulls, his tips on what to do and not do when hitting up a couple for a threesome as well as tips on what to do and what not to do before, during and after the actual threesome, how to ease into guy on guy action if you’ve never tried it before but want to plus a whole lot more. Link to their Onlyfans http://onlyfans.com/sheilaexposure **To see HOT pics of JAY AND his wife SHEILA, plus see pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed.   Sponsors:  ⁠https://liferx.md⁠ Start your transformation now and get $50 OFF your first month, use code: ANONYMOUS https://beducate.me/pd2520-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Use code: ANONYMOUS to get 50% off your yearly pass plus get a 14-day money-back guarantee  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://vb.health⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To get 10% off Drive AND LOAD Boost by VB Health use code: STRICTLY   Follow me! Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcas⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Okay, today I have on Jay. Jay does not disappoint. This is a great episode. We talk about so many different things and the whole progression of the call is like fucking great. Jay has been on my show before and his whole story is so super interesting because he started out as a guy in a lifestyle. Then he became a bull and then he became a stag and then he became a cuck and now he's

topping guys. he has a hot wife. His hot wife is Sheila. She's been on my show before. They both have their origin stories on my show. You could go and listen to them. But we talk about his update on this episode, which is the fact that he did top two different guys recently. This is the black guy who's very alpha, very manly, who was not into the guy and guy action before he met his girl, but his girl was very into it. And he started to cross the lines and he had done some blowjobs and stuff. But he was ready to top a guy and he finally did. And he talks about the two experiences with the two guys that they recently topped. There was like full on trains going down. His girl was like having massive

orgasms watching it. He goes into very specific details about both of those threesome. And then he gives like really good advice for bulls. He talks about the number one red flag that they see in bulls when they're looking for guys and the things that guys do wrong. And then he gives some really good advice. of what to do right. And he goes step by step. Like, you know, when you're about to hit up the couple, when you start talking to them, when you get to the hotel room and when you're having fucking sex with them, okay, he gives specific advice and information and tips on what to do and what not to do to have a great experience with a couple. This is a guy who has been on that side. He's been on every side. So he really knows the art of being a bull, the art of having a threesome, the art of

guy and guy action. He's a super interesting guy. He's very well spoken. You're going to love this episode. You're going to love him. I have pictures of him and the trains that he's talking about on this episode over on my Patreon and Discord. But he also gives a shout out to his ex, as well as his only fans that will be in the description. But anyway, I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Jay. Hey, Jay, welcome back to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? I am doing great. It's been a beautiful day. Yeah. Yeah.

So listen, Jay, you're a lot of things. And I have talked to you throughout your evolution. And what I love about you is that you have been there, done that from all sides of the lifestyle. Right. You started out as a bull. Then you became a stag. No. First, you were just regular lifestyle.

Yeah, yeah. I started out. Right, right. I started out as a couple getting to swing a lifestyle. So just a regular couple doing full swapping. Right. And then keep going. And then after that, I got divorced.

And then I went into the whole single guy. And as being a black guy in the state of Colorado, turned more into a bull, BBC type thing. And then from there, I got a girlfriend. And I started to be interested or careless about being the other side. So I got into a little bit of a stag play. Then I was, you know, my girlfriend's really into male-o-male contact, and she wants to kind of dominate the situation a little bit. So then I got into cup play as me being the cuck.

And then now we kind of trends, we kind of moves into me topping guys because that's always been my girlfriend, number one fantasy. So just a lot of different areas. Yeah, I'm obsessed with your story because literally, like, when I say you've been there, done that all sides, you really have played every part in the fucking porn scenarios. Every porn scenario that someone would be into, you've been there, done that. You know what I mean? So we're going to talk like a lot of bigger picture stuff, but recently the topping thing.

So I have had you on before. I will put your origin story episode number in the description. And if someone just Googles J and Spotify, you could search my podcast on the top of the page. You know, you can find all your other episodes. Your girl has called in. What do we call your girl? Sheila, Sheila has called in. Let me tell you Jay's wife does not disappoint. She's a very good dirty talker. A lot of girls don't give dirty details, but your girl does. Okay, so they want to hear your girl tell some stories of you guys like hitting other guys up and stuff and how she's really into guy and guy action and all that kind of, and how you got her into being a hot wife. I mean,

this was something she had never done. They need to go listen to Sheila's episode. But today we're talking to you. We're going to talk about your first experiences topping a guy, which happened recently. There's two experiences we're going to talk about. We're going to talk about. Yes. You wanted to talk about the art of a threesome. I mean, you could talk about it from every angle.

We're going to talk about topping guys. And then I really think a really good thing to talk about because you're just like topping guys and you just recently got into being with guys because your girl was so into it. Well, I want to talk about and we'll end with like the whole stigma around guy and guy. action because I happen to know what you do, you know, in your vanilla life, you're very much like but not the type of guy that people would think when they're being stereotypical. You know what I'm saying? Like when they think, oh, a guy that isn't a guy is less of a man, right? You're like as manly of a man as they come. Plus, you're a black guy and there's even more of a stigma in the

black community, right? For a guy. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. So we'll get to that. And by the way, you and your girl, having only fans, it's very amateur, it's all like the stuff that you do. Like, people could go and see these actual experiences, correct? Like, on? Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we'll give out those links at the end, and I'll put a link to it in the description. But why don't we start with, like, your update and give the, uh, your first couple experiences topping a guy?

Right. Okay. So, uh, it's probably been over a month now. But anyway, so we met a guy on Twitter and, and he seemed to be very open to, you know, guy on guy type play, which was really excited for my girlfriend. She loves that. And I'm cool with it. I'm comfortable

with myself. So, how far had you been with a guy so far? I mean, we're going to hear you topping a guy. Had you been blowing guys, were they blowing you? I forget. Like, why don't you just explain? Yes, yes. So I have sucked the dick.

I've done that a, actually quite a few times. And obviously, I have had a guy suck my dick too. So that's always kind of fun. You know, it's kind of fun to explore that because because the energy that

comes from like just having like a really nice size hard dick in your hand and in your mouth is like it's a weird thing to talk about as being a, I do consider myself a straight guy. I know some people are like, hey, it's impossible for you to be straight and you're sucking a dick.

I love that they go at the same time. I love when people say this. Go on. because people go mental over it. Yeah, yeah. The reason why I say I'm straight is because I don't find men attractive. I've never looked at a man and be like, oh, I would love to hook up with him. I would never date a man. It's just the fact that we all naked in the bed and hormones are ranging and this is what

pussy and the heart dick and it's like, all right, fuck it. Let's do whatever. Yeah, that's your erotic orientation. When in the middle of something going down, it's like fucking hot, you're going to go there. It doesn't mean anything else other than when you're out. of that scenario. I do know what was interesting about you and I really, it sounds like you still have a little bit in you because like you kind of stutter when you're going to say like I cut I sucked a dick. I don't know. You did have a point when you were crossing over. Like it was hard for you to sort

of talk about it and say it, right? Even though you were doing it, it was hard for you to wrap your head around the fact that you were doing it when you were first doing it, right? Because of the stigma. Right. Of course. I mean, because I'm raised in the community. Yeah. That, you know, one once you go gay that's the only thing people would like look at you as a gay man no matter what you do no matter how many girls you've been with no matter how hot you are they're always going to look at you as a

gay man even if you didn't like even if you just looked at a man in an attractive way like they consider you gay there's no back and forth there's no buy you gay you know and that's a nice way of saying you know I'm saying you know other people will use other words exactly and gay means you're less of a man

I mean unfortunately that's like a bad term to be. You're gay. Like you are not a man. You're less than a regular man. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So by being a man that's into,

or at least okay with hanging out or being sexually active with another man, it does, it kind of feminize you a little bit. It makes you less masculine in some people's eyes. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So by being a man that's,

that's into, or at least okay with hanging out or being sexually active with another man, it kind of feminized you a little bit. It makes you less masculine in some people's eyes. Yeah. And even like for you, so how did you as somebody

who had the stigma put on them for so long that even, you know, when you did it, it was hard for you to cop to it and everything, but you enjoyed it. Like, how did your mind change about the stigma once you cross the line? Like, how do you see? see it differently.

Yeah, honestly, it was my girlfriend. I mean, my girlfriend is so sexy, and she's so cool, and she really, really enjoys it. And, like, and just her, like, supporting me in a sense of, like, hey, I would like to see you do this, and I find it super hot, and you're still going to, you still are the man. Yeah. You know, I'm saying? You're still my husband. You're still the man of the house.

you know, she still is, like, submissive to me in a natural world. I didn't take nothing from, like, our relationships. That I gave me the confidence to explore without feeling like I'm going to lose something in my relationship. Right. And so even after you did it, did you feel less of a man? Did any of that stigma mean anything? Or is it just like a fucking stigma?

Yeah, no, you know, after I did it, I was like, okay, shit, you know, it was fun. And I enjoy it because I like pleasing people. I'm a natural pleaser. So the fact that like he was enjoying it. And he was telling me exactly, you know, the way he wanted it, you know, how he wanted his balls rub. And a part of the like his cock that he wants to be lit to suck. And then seeing how deep I could get into my mouth. And I have pretty big lips.

So like I felt like he enjoyed that too. And then and then looking over to my girlfriend. And she's like, I mean, my wife, she's sitting. over there like just playing with herself and enjoying it. It was like it was really hot. Yeah. Yeah. And let's tell people that your girl is white, right? She, she loves black guys, right? And she's there. That's like her thing. So these other guys in the story are always other black guys too, right? Like that's the okay. So your topic, the guy that you guys met is another black guy because that's what she's into besides really being into she's very white, but she's very into black eyes and she's very into guy and guy

action. So she's the one that brought it to the table. Yeah. Yeah. And my wife, she's like, she's a white girl. And I have to say, like, she's a white girl. That's a white girl. Like, like, she's not like black from the hood. You know what I'm saying? You know, she's her whole family's white. She's a ginger. She's a ginger white girl. Yeah, exactly. And, and, but for some reason or another, like, she just have an affinity for black men. It kind of started back in high school. But, but, yeah, that's just the way she is. She's the only one out of her friend group, only one out of her family that dates black guys. Yeah, yeah, it's so interesting. Yeah, people would love Sheila. Okay, so now, so you guys meet a guy. He's another black guy, right? He's into, like, you had done some blow jobs and stuff like that. Now, were you excited to top someone? Was it your girl's idea? Was it something that you wanted to try? Had you ever bottomed before yet? I don't remember. No, okay, so start there. I never bought him. And I wasn't excited to talk because I didn't even know it was going to happen. Oh, interesting. Okay. Like, we were just happy to have a guy who was built who was open to like mail-and-mail contact. Yeah.

So I figured I was going to blow him. And he was actually interested in blowing me too. But talking, we actually got into a place that it was like, he was saying that he was like very interesting and curious about it. Yeah. But honestly, he was like, you know, maybe one day I'll do it. That's what he said that night. You know, maybe one day I do it. I want to do it, you know, but maybe one day.

Right. So we was like, okay, cool. So we started playing, and then I started to, like, get behind them, and I figured I was just going to tease him a little bit. I'm just going to tease him. I put the condom on. I put the lube on, and I just took my cock and just rubbed between his legs and, like, on his asshole as he was eating my wife out.

But what I started to notice is that he started to push back of my cock. And I wasn't expecting that. But the thing was, I didn't know how. far I can go with this. Right. I wasn't always, it was it to tease, you know, can I just get the tip in? Mm-hmm. Or did he want me to actually fall out, fuck him?

Right. But as he started to push back on me, and I realized that my cock is actually entering his asshole, and then I hear him moaned. Yeah. That's what got me. Yeah. It was the moaning that it was like, it wasn't more like, oh, my God, stop. It was a more like, like, it was like he was enjoying it.

Mm-hmm. So then I was like, okay, let me go a little bit deeper. And then I also realized that, you know, my wife was enjoying the sound that he was making. So I started talking to her and I was like, oh my God, baby, he is taking my cock. My cock is actually inside of him. And then she started talking back to me saying, how deep, how deep, because like he couldn't see it because she was in front of us. Yeah. It was like a little bit of a train.

So like she was actually jealous that she couldn't see it. So I had to like give her description. I'm like, I'm down like, past. past the tip of my head. And then he says this. And it's actually on the video that we have on OF, he was like, go deeper.

And I was like, holy shit. This guy's for real. He really wants it. Yeah. That's what happens. You never had anal. I know. Like, once you start to like it,

it's like, you know, you want more because there's a lot of, like it's very intense. Yeah. I guess. That'll be your next episode, okay? going to be bottomed at some point, sorry. I know you're going to be calling me a year from now.

You go with the whole journey. Exactly. We'll get you there. Anyway, go on. But like the other piece that I was actually very, like, happy about, because I had these thoughts on my head, I was like, you know, what if he's not clean? What if the smell? All those things.

Like, I've not really done this. I mean, he was pretty freaking clean. There was no smell. I honestly, I told my wife after this. I told Sheila, and I was like, I felt like he planned this. I felt like he was, he talked like, like, like, as if, like, it would have happened. Yeah.

But, but, but, but, but the way he took my cock and the way he told me to go deeper and he was clean, there was no smell, he enjoyed it. And then I was like, I told, I told Sheila and I was like, this could not be his first time. Yeah, maybe not. Yeah. And, and the reason why I said that is because, like, I'm not, my, I'm not a small guy. I got a thick cock in his, in the street long. And he's like, asking to take more of it.

And I was like, wow, he is taking it very well. So I started stroking. I started going deeper. And I'm enjoying it. He's moaning. You know, my wife is enjoying the sounds and everything. And you know what? She came.

That was literally the first time she came from like oral from a guy. Right. Except you. I mean, she comes from you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. From any guy except for me. on the one that's ever been able to do that, which was kind of shocking on my head. But then it was just the whole thing that took her to another mental level, and she fucking nutted.

Right. So there you go. That's like, and that's going to turn you on because you're a pleaser. You're pleasing two people at once. Her and him. I mean, and the truth is, I hate to say. And I understand why some men do this now, his asshole felt pretty fucking good. I was like, I was like, this shit is tight. And the way he's squeezing his butt cheeks and like, and I'm going hard now. Like, I was like, fuck, I could probably come off this. And I have a condom on. So like sometimes condoms can like dull the filling.

Yeah. But like with the lube, it felt really fucking good. But so wait. So now you have, I saw a pick. I mean, I think you just sent me some pecks. So you did like a whole train thing going on. That was when he was going down on her. Now, that second time that you have this experience with the guy, is it the same guy?

No, but listen, we have been trying to find guy that was open-minded. Yeah. And just somehow within a two weeks timeframe, two guys just showed up. Wow, that's crazy, right? And this guy, this guy flew in from Florida. Funny enough, we kind of played with him almost like three years ago in Florida at this like, at a resort called Secrets. And he was just coming to Colorado and he hit us up, hey man, I'm coming to Colorado.

And we was like, okay, cool, let's meet up. We had a good time last time. Yeah. And then we shot him some ideas. We was like, hey, you know, would you be down for this? And he's like, he was extremely down. Now, this one was different because now he was. was going to go get tested.

Right. So now we could play bare back. Oh, okay. Because now, and the last one, you didn't even know it was definitely going to happen. This one, you know there's going to be, like, and he knows, and it's agreed upon ahead of time. Yeah, exactly. Like, he wanted, like, he actually said that he's been getting into it, and he's really,

really enjoyed it. And, like, and he's been talking about, he's like, oh, I really want to take your cop. And I was like, I was like, okay, well, you know, I'm not experienced. I'm ready. So in the past, when you hooked up with him at Secrets, was there any blowing going on between you guys, or was it just him fucking your girl? No, it was from mail-on-mail contact.

Oh, there was a little bit. Okay. Yeah, right. So that's why I think he was, like, really cool to, like, to, like, access for it because he realized that we was open to, like, mail-on-mail contact. Yeah, for sure. Okay.

Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. And so for him, it was going to be even better for me. Now at this time, you're not going to have to use a contact. them so I can even get more of the sensation. Yeah.

And the fact that I knew that he's done it before and he actually really, really wanted. So now I can actually kind of go into it a little bit more confidence. Mm-hmm. Yeah, for sure. Now, now the weird thing about this, I don't know, is because different asses. I don't know if someone's lying to me. When I started to fuck him, he actually told me to slow down. He actually couldn't take it as well.

Yeah. Well, that's like, it depends on where you're at as far as like you're, how turned on you are. Like, you know, you got to take it a little slow in the beginning depending. You have to be really turned on. And the more turned on you are, the more you want it harder and faster. And then you just come so fast because it's so intense. So sometimes if somebody, if there's not as much for play, maybe with that guy, he needed a little bit slower at first because he needed to just be more turned on. You know, that's, that would be the reason.

I've taken it in the ass. I know. I get that, but it was shocking how the guy who claimed to never done it before took my whole cock, no problem. Yeah, but listen, that guy might have never done it with a man, with a real cock. But there's no way that guy hasn't been shoving shit in his ass since he's probably 15, okay? Plenty of guys have played around with themselves. A lot of guys before they take, you know, cross the line and do it with a guy, they do it with dildos. And let me just tell you, the guys that start with the dildos, they progress.

They're doing like huge ones by the time they're playing around at home alone because they want bigger and thicker. And so that guy was probably using toys as big as you or bigger way before you showed up. He might have never been with a guy, but he had shit in his ass before. Okay, come on. That's the, you know what? I've actually never thought about that. That is a fair point. I'm going to share that with Sheila.

I was like, you know, Kathy made a valid point. Yes, because I talk to these guys. I talked to so many guys calling to my show. Listen, the whole guy and guy thing, and the reason I talk about a lot and the whole stigma is so stupid because there's so many guys out there that are like you that are kind of straight, that are straight, not kind of straight, that are straight, and once in a while we'll suck a dick or they've been in the middle of a pile of people

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and they were curious and they felt it, you know, they realized it felt really good. I talk to these guys all the time. Plenty of guys are doing this. Even guys that will never cross the line and be with a guy. They just want their girls to peg them, you know, but it is a very common thing. Just like girls might have gone there and play around with their asses when they're

playing with themselves. Guys do too. You never did that to yourself? No, I'm sorry. It's okay. I like your honesty. I know you'd be honest with me. Yeah. You know, it's the same thing would come. Yeah. Right.

You know, I should come with my wife. You know, actually, actually, funny enough, that same guy. I see the first guy. Yeah. He actually did come. He pulled off, he pulled off his condom. Yeah. And then like he came.

in my wife's mouth and like on her lips and face and she kissed me so that like now I'm tasting his come and like and I'm like swalling his cum and the funny thing is it was like kind of super hot

taste pretty good it was like yeah a decent tasting cum I don't know yeah I don't know if that's a thing or not a thing but but but like I would never even touch my own cum I hate the feeling of my own cum like it's so weird how I can do it with someone else but I but I can't do it with my own comedy.

It's just like my asshole. I can't play with my asshole. Like I don't want to touch it. But I can play with someone else that asshole. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. It just sounds like, you know, when you're in the middle of something, you just go to places that maybe you otherwise wouldn't with yourself.

Which, listen, I've heard that before, for sure. You know, so, okay, so the second guy, he's down and he's ready. So he was a little bit like, oh, take it slower, but like you fully fucked him and was it so much better without the con? dumb yeah yeah i mean i was actually enjoying it way better and like and and you know the truth is i actually do enjoy taking it slow and i do take it slow but like i was shocked that he was like hold on like like stop like yeah i need to like adjust for your for your for your thickness and i was like okay no problem yeah so i'm just staying here and i'm just kind of just rubbing his back and rubbing his

legs i'm trying to be central because he likes to be central and like and he likes that whole submissive part to where he could almost get into the roleplay of being a woman. But not actually, I'm not talking to him like a woman, but I'm making him feel like a woman and like with my touch. Yeah. Interesting. Uh-huh. Yeah.

And then from there, I'm able to like go a little bit deeper and then I backed out and I went back in. And then at the tail end, he was like, go for it. Yeah, which always happens. And what is he doing to your girl at the time? Is it another train? Is she watching? Is he fucking her?

Same thing. He's, yeah, you know, he's like, you know what? We actually did both. Right. It was one time he was eating out and the other time he was fucking her. And that's like a real train. He's fucking her and you're fucking going from behind. Yeah, exactly. And it just so weird how me and my wife talked about this for so long.

You're talking about years. And like, and in two weeks we get two guys, two black guys. Isn't that funny? Yeah. It was like, what the way? It's so hard to, like, to find black men who's, like, open to, like, even male-of-mail contact, even with just me blowing them compared to a black man who's, like, down for me to top them.

And, you know, we was actually thinking, we may have to go to Atlanta. Oh, really? Yeah. Because, you know, Atlanta just got a bunch of, like, gay black men. So he was like, yeah. We may have to go to Atlanta and find someone. Yeah, yeah, totally. And that makes sense because, but, like, um, you know,

it's interesting that there was a lot that would suck a dick, but you're saying to bottom, that was even harder to find, right? Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And now,

has your girl ever talked to you about wanting to see you bottom, or does she like to see you as a top, or are she down for anything? You know, I wonder that. She actually said that she wants to see me just as a top. She don't want to see me bottom. Yeah. But I wonder if she says that because she knows, like,

I probably just want to do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So why I even put that pressure? Because, like, she enjoys male-a-male-male contact so much. I'm shocked that she don't want to see me in that way. Yeah, exactly. But, like, because what's the difference? I think, I think that's a hard boundary for me.

And it has nothing to do with the gayness of it, whatever. It's just like, like, I don't know. I just don't see it as being a turn-on-off for me. Yeah, because you've never played with that part of your body. You have no idea what it feels like. It's never been an erogenous zone for you. So if you're not telling you. tapped into that area in the slightest, why would you even think about it? You know what I mean?

I get it. It's like women. Tons of women aren't three input girls and some are and it's, you know, it's because some girls aren't because some guy just shoved a dick inside of them before they were horny and it fucking killed and they're like, I think anal sex is painful, which it can be, if done improperly. Few girls have done it right and the ones who have love it. But some people have never gone there, never want to. You know, it's like a focus of attention in that whole area. It would be a whole new thing for you. You'd have to, like, dedicate some time to actually explore it because you never have. So it makes sense that you would never want to be in that position.

I mean, you were dropping balls. You're sitting balls right now. Yeah, totally. But wait, so now, did you come in that guy when you were, like, fucking him in the ass. Did he, like, blow you after? Like, what else did it went down with that guy? No, you know, it's funny. It's funny.

Every time me and my wife play with someone. one, I've never came. What? And, yeah. What do you mean? How could you not come when your dick is in someone's ass? Yeah, it's mostly because I like the enjoyment of reconnecting sex with my wife afterwards. So you, but you can't come again later?

It's not the same for me. Like, I'm, I am like a one and done guy. But the good news is that I could edge and I can last a long time, right? So I do edge. I love edging. Sometimes even when I'm masturbating, I can edge for hours. Yeah, it's fine. But when I come, it's like, okay, like, I'm either time to get something to eat, sleep.

You know, I'm done for a day. Yeah, that's funny. See me tomorrow. Yeah. And have you always been that way? You've never been able to, like, do it again, like 30 minutes later, an hour later? Yeah. I mean, yeah, I have been, you know, when I was younger.

And the truth is, I have done it. Even with Sheila, you know, I came twice. But the second nut is never as good as the first one. Yeah, I got it. Yeah, and in acute this, I love a buildup. Like, I love going a couple of days without sex and having a massive orgasm instead of just trying to get as many as possible. No, I get that. That's a little bit of a tease-in denial thing.

I think it's like a certain personality type. And especially if you're a one and done like you are as a guy, it makes sense that you would drag it along. So like after those two experiences with those guys, like do they come out and then you're like go to town on her like right after? Yeah, yeah. So, so after we experienced that and she came both times so then she got her nut, then after that I let them relax a little bit. And like the first guy, I kind of stopped and then and then he started to fuck her and then he came on her face. the second guy you know he wanted me to keep fucking him

to help him come oh really yeah so like and that was pretty hot too man because like I didn't know how it was going to end you know

but he was I was kind of ready to be done because I took I edge a couple of times and I think okay I'm cool you know we experienced it we had a good time you know my girl she came

so it was like your turn and he was like no keep it in like keep going please once he was in to it. He was. Let me ask you this because you have an only fans and you obviously have been creating content for a while now. I mean, you started in the lifestyle way before you started an only fans, but eventually you guys got one when you were with Sheila. But like let me ask you this. Do you see a difference in like what people are looking for? Are there a lot of people looking for the guy and guy stuff?

Does that seem to turn people off? Is your audience less interested in that or more interested? Or it's just, you know, the same but different? I mean, that's a really great question. I'll break it down to you like this. So originally, yeah, so originally our profile on an OF was, was no pay-per-view.

And however, we started to realize anytime we released something with me doing mail-a-mail contact, we was getting so much requests for more videos like that. So much, like it was like,

it was like, wait, dude, I just got a bunch of bi-gay, man, that follow us. But it's like, it's super great. They really, really love that. We were shocked by that. So, like, this last video that we are released, we have to do a pay-up review

because it was the first time I would top the guy, which to me, you know, it's like to even put that out into the internet. It's like, it's like, I'm going to make someone pay for that. Because that's like something like I never thought that I would ever do. Yeah. And that, I swear that, that sold so much. We were shocked to how many people bought that pay-per-view. It was selling so much that we had to up the price. And people were like, no one blinked the eye.

We went from like 1999 to 2499 to $2,99 to $2,99. Wow. And it was like, wow, we got something. Yeah, well, you got a lot of things. You got a lot of tags in that porn that you're creating, right? You got threesome. Yeah. You got interracial.

You got guy. young guy, you know, like it's a lot going on. It's hitting a lot of things for people. I know, because I've been doing my show for so long, and I get all these guys calling in that are secretly doing this guy and guy action, that it's a lot more common than people want to admit and people are still so sort of on the deal with it. Even in the lifestyle, right? Like you were in the lifestyle. You probably never saw a guy and guy action. You didn't think it existed. But tons of guys there are into it, but they can't do it even in clubs, because there still is that. stigma, but a lot of people like it. And look, your stats are saying exactly what I know

that people, a lot of people are into this. Men and women. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right. And the truth is, like, the one guy, he wrote us, and he said it the best, he's like, it's so hard to find porn like this. It's one that's amateur with good camera, lightning, all, you know, good production. I mean, we don't do nothing really, really huge, but we'll at least let you to see the important details. I hate watching porn. You could be able to be. really is all grainy and dark. Yeah. But also seeing, like you said, white guy and a black guy, you know, I'm a white guy and a

black guy. White girl. Actually, yeah, yeah, exactly. Seeing, you know, two black guys going out of it, like, it's rare to see that in an amateur world. So, yeah. Yeah, I think there's probably a lot of content creators that are afraid to cross outline because they worry, oh, what if I do this, they'll be backlash.

But no, look, you're going to have more people coming to you because, you know, The truth is just as many guys are into guys as girls are into girls. You know, it's just, it's a lot cooler for the girl thing to exist. I'm sure when people post-lesby and porn, it does really well, too. You know, it's no different than guy on guy. But I think because there is that big stigma in the black community, you probably have less people doing it. So it's great that you're offering that, right? Yeah, yeah.

I actually believe so. And yeah, we actually played with a bull before. that was like he did ask for us not to post any of the male or male contact. Oh, interesting. Content. And because he felt like it would make him look bad amongst the other male content creators that he sometimes partner up with. So sometimes, especially once again, as being a black man and you consider it as a bull,

it's like it makes you look weak or feminized or like less than a man to have to play with another guy either to women or to your peers it seemed to be actually i think the problem for him was his peers yeah because it's not to himself i mean he's engaging in that activity and he enjoys it but he can't let someone else know because of the fear of like how that person might view him and it's true listen it's why a lot of actors can't admit that they're gay and there's you know so they have like fake wives and shit because people might see they won't be able to see them in a role. You know, and sometimes it is a professional, a decision that someone makes professionally and you could understand it because there is that stigma.

But I love that you said, fuck it and still did it yourself because like you realize that it didn't hurt you guys, right? If anything, you're doing better than ever. Yeah, yeah. It definitely helped grow our market. It put a lot of money in our pocket. And more importantly, it gives us an opportunity. to live out some fantasies that like we talked about for so long that my wife was really looking

forward to and something new for me that I've never done before like like like you know the truth is this like I said it felt really good and and it felt good not just physically yeah but it felt really good like mentally to like dominate another man in that way and all of us guys we all are straight very masculine men right so there's a and to see him like bend over and hand him as he's like taking my cock. And now one thing that he said, I can never forget the first guy when he was like, go harder. I was like, damn, that was hot.

Yeah, it's interesting. I guess it's a whole different experience than taking a woman that way because this is a man and you're dominating him. So it's a whole new level, right? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I've been sleeping with women for a whole life. So it's like, you know, can you want to be dominated? Okay, it wasn't next.

It wasn't it. Yeah, because you said you were a pleaser. That's what made you a good bull. most bulls that do very well and that are very highly, you know, they are pleasers, they're sensual. They're like, they know how to get a woman off. They, you know, and please a woman. But here you are now pleasing guys. And I would, I would, you know, I get why that would be hot for you because it's something new,

especially because you've kind of been there done that. You've done a lot of different things, you know. How do you get off or, you know, what's next, right? You kind of keep pushing the envelope, which I understand. Yeah. And the truth is, like, I mean, just to kind of counterargue what you said, like two seconds ago about a lot of bulls and know how to please women. Yeah. You think that, but they really don't, honestly.

So we came up with a couple of red flags, like, look at, you know, when we're looking at, like, bulls, like, you know, when we chat with a potential bull to play with. Yeah. And number one red flag that always makes us feel kind of queasy is when a bull never access the question. Yes. like he never wants to learn about us like you never say hey so what do you like what turned you want you know what stuff gives your orgasm

what are you no gold like you never ask the question about us like we would ask a lot of questions and he would answer sometimes sometimes he gives lame answers or like we don't we would ask the question so what turns you on uh like you're gonna dicks up

I'm like okay oh my god yeah but then but then it's even worse when you don't return the question. Yeah, totally. You're asking all the questions.

They should be totally wanting to know that information because they want, they're there to please you guys, right? I mean, how are you going to please someone if you don't know what the fuck they're into? Yeah. So, exactly. So, like, I hate that because then, like, if we do choose

you, and sometimes we do, because we're so desperate, so hard to find black men in Colorado. Yeah. It's like, you know, we always go into this with, like, you know, low expectations, and you kind of feel like you almost take one for the team because, like, we want to explore this, we want to, we're an experiment, and we haven't done it so long, so, like, this is the only got us available, and it's always, and it's sometimes kind of, like,

underwhelming, you know, but the guys who's always been very comminative is always been, like, the best experience. Yeah, so why don't you give, because, you know, we still have a little time left, like, why don't you give, we want to talk about the art of the three, so why don't you start there? Like, why don't you give some, you gave the number one red flag. Like, what would you say to a guy who wants to come in with a couple and be a good bowl? Besides, like, hey, ask a lot of questions. Maybe get specific what they should ask, you know, who they should contact first.

I don't know, you know, give like a little tutorial and some tips. Yeah, okay, simple. First and foremost, get tested. A couple will love the fact. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, a couple will love the fact that you are STD tested recently. not something to happen, you know, months ago in the week of that you were playing.

Like, if you get your results, that's Friday and we meet you up Saturday, we would love that. Okay, it's good. Number one. Tested two, like I said, ask questions. Like, get into the fantasy world. Try to woo the wife. If you're talking to the wife, okay? Try to get in her mind and see what she find to be sexy.

At least at minimum, find out what she don't like. If you don't like to be spanked or hair pulled or whatever case, and be at least learn that part of it. Right. Then have some good quality pictures. I can't tell you how pictures we have gotten. We was like, hey, you know, send us a couple of pictures. Yeah.

And he sent us to some frowning look of picture. Like you look super mean. Like you just left the worst job you ever worked at. Like, like, bro, like you should send a picture. You're looking good. You're smiling. You got a positive attitude. Let's get excited.

Siders have fun, right? So have good pictures and not just not just pictures, that's kind of important. But we want to see the whole thing. Want to see your smile. We want to see your body. Do you got abs? And yes, we want to see you got, you know, your car.

Yeah. And then when you meet up, right, always smell good. Like, get some cologne and have some gum. And also your ass. So here's it. And I say this because people will go take a shower, right? Yeah.

But like, we live sometimes. Like an hour away from Denver. So if he comes from Denver, you can be sitting in a car, you can sit in your ass, maybe fall, whatever it can be. And then you drive it and you're like, I'm fresh. I just took a shower an hour ago. I don't think it's a bad idea to get to the hotel. Like, hold on.

Let me go take a shower real quick. And sometimes you can get a shower scene. You could get the wife to come in with the shower with you. That's actually pretty sexy. My wife loves that. So don't be afraid to take a fresh shot. when you actually get to the location, get to the hotel, or the house or wherever.

Yeah. Okay. Good. And then make sure you can get hard, right? Okay. So it's some more advice. Try not have a sex or jerking off for at least a minimum of day before you're about to hook up. That's smart. Yeah. Smart. Yeah. Like, try to hold off and build up a little bit.

Don't jerk off the day of the day before or have sex with someone else. Yeah. You know, and damn sure, don't. say that you did it. Right. Like, we literally was with someone who was like, yeah, you know, last night I was like,

you know, I was with this girl. I'm like, why the fuck would you say that? Yeah. That instantly turned my wife off. Yeah, totally. Right.

Okay. All right. So now when you actually, you're smelling good, you're looking good. And just like soup. Anyway, you're looking good and you're in the room,

you body get popped off. Don't be afraid to touch her. Right. Don't be so standoffish. If you were, want to ask first hey you mind if i touch you that's totally respectable yeah but don't be so like off center like it builds up this wall and it builds up this tension that sometimes it makes it very awkward to cross over but if you are the man you should be the man if you brought you in you know why you

hear don't be afraid to come over and rub her leg rub her shoulders rubbing her lower back you know crest her arms touches a little small little errors that she maybe haven't been touching a while like behind her knee, her elbow, those weird little quirky areas, like her ankle. There's like, wow, like it kind of sends off these signals. Like, you know, a woman's body besides just a, you know, the breast ass and pussy. Yeah, yeah, that's smart. Right. And, of course, have good conversation.

It's really cool when you're touching, and you're still able to conversate. Like, you could do both before we just jump into the sets. Yeah, that's like, that kind of stuff is really good foreplay for women, you know? They want a little bit of some sort of connection other than just physical, right? So making her feel comfortable, chatting her up, you know, it goes a really long way for her to be just like then just like get down and dirty with you. 100%. Women needs that mental connection. Yeah.

Now, now it also depends on like if you're into the male or male contact or you just there for her. Of course, you know, you can let everybody know. where you at with things but I would tell you man be open-minded stop being like well I don't want your cock touching my cock and like bro let that shit go

enjoy the moment because to tell you you're probably going to enjoy it's going to change who you are as a man it's not okay so when you're now starting to engage in sex take control you put her

down you take control I get it you want her fucking you a cock as soon as possible is going to get there i promise you but when you but when you take control you dominate her with your words with your touch with your with your aggressiveness or how you how you rub her and licking her and and and tasting her she's going to want to give you the best blow job you ever had compared you just you know yeah right you can compete you just whipping out your dick hey man you can stop my dick let's up yeah so you're going to incentivize her

to give you that energy back and double your energy by making her feel comfortable and make her feel slightly dominated with your touch and the pleasure is given her. Right. Right? Because she's going to want to reciprocate that and even try to multiply. She can get like competitive with it. Right?

And then I, and then when it comes to the actual sex, there's another little key little tip. Yeah. And also depend on your size, right? You know you got a good size. Tees her with the cock. Like, tease her with the tip. Like my wife loves the fact when she has a guy and the guy

just kind of puts the head of his cock in and just a little bit and tease her and put the head in pull it out put the head in pull out just like make her want to be like fucking give it to me give it to me but no not yet yeah not yet yeah and just tease her with it and then when you finally go in and that's the problem guys when you finally go in they think they need to go in hard and deep yeah no I mean warming up the more you warm up a woman the hornier she is and the more the her you warm her she is and the more her inside is fluffed up and turned on and, you know, erect. Like, I've had, you know, sex, sex therapists on my show who talk about, like, it takes a woman a certain amount to get a quote-unquote hard on, all that in her insides, you know,

to get totally stimulated. It takes a while. So all of that stuff that you're talking about is so key to giving that girl, like, the best experience she's ever had than just, like, putting it in in the first five minutes and fucking her like a rabbit. Yeah. Yeah. Like, like, and you don't need to go deep, bro.

Like, you don't. Like, like, at least for the first, you know, five minutes, you don't need to go deep. She'll tell you. She'll tell you when she wants it harder and faster, right? Yeah. Like, you know, two to three inches is what's going to get her there. And then after that, you can start introducing a little bit more if you have a little bit more, right? Yeah.

But, but, but, yeah. And when you're doing that, so you need to be thinking about three things. Yeah. A, if the husband is recording, you're going to make sure you got to get from room to record. So, like, sometimes you got to move your arm in an aqua place or move your leg in an aqua place so he can get some good video, right? Especially if he's a content creator, if you're a content creator, you know, or whatever. So always think about, like, you know, are you in a way? And I'm not saying you have to keep that, like, like, like the number one thing, but it is something to think about.

And it really helps out the couple. Okay. two, you have to give her sometimes room so her hand could get in there and so maybe she could play with her click. So sometimes when you're on top of her like a missionary and you're so tight and she can't play with her clit,

sometimes she's like losing out on that sensation. And that could be the thing that could get her to the next level. And then and then the third thing, don't be afraid to kiss, to lick, to use your hands, use your tongue even when you're fucking her.

Even in doggy style, you know, when I'm fucking, like in dog yourself, I could still be rubbing your back. I could be rubbing your thighs. I could be smacking your butt, gripping your ass. I could be doing so many things with my hands instead of just like fucking just ramming it and not thinking about it. Yeah. Give you a lot of different sensations to like enjoy. Yeah.

This is the art of the bull. This is, you know what you're fucking talking about. These are the kind like, you know, you know the deal. I remember your bull episodes. I have only had professional bowls on my show. I mean, these are, this is like key. This is like great information. you're giving guys out there that want to go.

Because I have heard from the couples who have had the bad bulls come just like you have and like what the fuck happens. And they do everything the opposite of what you said. And all those things, just one of those things not done correctly could ruin the whole experience. Right. And then also if you want a call back, you feel like, hey, I'm actually a local guy for this couple. Yeah. And you want a call back.

Yeah. So then you have to figure out when it's all said and done, hopefully she came hopefully you came hopefully the husband is happy then you got to figure out how to end it some couples like a cuddle session they like to talk some some couples like to be like hey you know what we're done can you leave like like grab yourself yeah enroll you know I think that's a conversation to have beforehand yes so you know what to expect and not and not do something as weird like for instance if you're hanging around too long and the couple's like okay this guy doesn't want to leave.

Or if you got up in Disney, you got up, like, all right, man, I had a good time. You pieced out. And they're like, damn, okay, I felt like I was just a piece to me. Like, you could even hug or, you know, give me a kiss goodbye. Oh, my God, such important. Yeah, that's really important. And I think that is very, that should very much be talked about.

That should definitely be talked about beforehand. Because post-up clarity is real and everyone feels different afterwards. And it goes from either one end of the spectrum or another. Like you said, somebody might be really insulted if you leave really early. And some people might want you to fucking get the fuck out right away. That would be me. I'm like that out. You know what I mean?

But some people want to like stay and talk or they feel, you know, and they need that. And so I think that that's so important. I love all this information. Do me a favor though. Now I want you, the last thing I want you to give advice on what about for that guy that wants to try some guy on guy action maybe and cross over and do that for real because he's been thinking about it. Any advice for him? Yeah. So, I mean, besides this straight up talking about it with, you know, with a particular couple, I would say you could start out

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